1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment last stravaganza. 4 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. 5 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: Really all right, let's get into what people are thinking 6 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: and talking about right now around the world. In America 7 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: more specifically, at the end of last week, there was 8 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: another shooting in Santa Fe High School in Texas, and yeah, 9 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: we're just another round of the debate that is getting 10 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: pretty Yeah, it's just crazy. Like as I was just 11 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: kind of writing about this up for us to talk 12 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: about how like I was kind of taking a flip 13 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: in angle or just I think it just speaks to 14 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: sort of the exhaustion that we have that we're still 15 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: just in this fucking cycle of shooting and then dumb 16 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: maass finger pointing of anything but the fucking guns, anything 17 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: but that last time it was I don't even know 18 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: what it was the new talking point, it seemed like 19 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: on on the Sunday shows because the n r A 20 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: had to get all their people out to start spending 21 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: this recent shooting to be anything but the guns. Uh, 22 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: seemed to be mostly video games and movies. Now was 23 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: like the I guess Scapegoat Jour and Riddling? Yeah, so 24 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: I guess the first. Yeah, Ali North, who is the 25 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: new n A president and o G gun smuggler of America. 26 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: He went on Fox and Yeah blamed Riddling in a 27 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: bunch of us. Check out this explanation. We're trying, like 28 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: the Dickens, to treat the symptom without treating the disease. 29 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 1: And the disease in this case isn't the Second Amendment. 30 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: The disease is youngsters who are steeped in a in 31 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: a culture of violence. Uh, they've been drugged in many cases. 32 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: Nearly all of these perpetrators are male and their young 33 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: teenagers in most cases, and they've come through a culture 34 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: where violence is commonplace. All we need to do is 35 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: tart on the TV, go to a movie. If you 36 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: look at what has happened to the young people, many 37 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: of these young boys have been on Riddle instance, they 38 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: were in kindergarten. Uh, that's such a hard left on. 39 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: Like it's like he even started like making a good 40 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: point of like all these young shooters are male, all 41 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: these young right that there could be a discussion about 42 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: what toxic masculinity is and things like that, right, but 43 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: then it turns into a riddlin. It's just well, later 44 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,399 Speaker 1: on he goes, well, look, I'm not a doctor, I'm 45 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: a marine, so blah blah blah, and it's almost like, well, then, 46 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: don't fucking begin to speculate as to what really one 47 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: has to do with any of this. Uh so, anything 48 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: but the guns. And then it seemed like this was 49 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: kind of a theme because then the lieutenant Governor of Texas, who, 50 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: by the way, when he was aeutenant governor was like 51 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: in a real battle to fight again to gender neutral 52 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: bathrooms side note went on to blame I think now 53 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: it's abortions in video games. So north was writtening in 54 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: video games, and then this is the lieutenant governor of Texas. 55 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: We have devalued life, whether it's through abortion, whether it's 56 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: the breakup of families through violent movies and particularly violent 57 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: video games, which now out sell movies and and music. Uh. 58 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: Psychologists and psychiatrists will tell you that students are desensitized 59 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: to violence. Um may have lost empathy for their victims 60 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: by watching hours and hours of video violent games. George 61 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: of teenagers, according to psychiatrists and psychologists watch video games 62 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: and eighty five or some of those are violent games. 63 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: And then, of course, George, we have our schools that 64 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: are not hard targets. Okay, is he the guy who 65 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: then went on to blame the number of doors in 66 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: the school. Yeah, he was like, there're too many points 67 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: of entry to just be like a prison. Yeah. The 68 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: doors thing really puts into perspective how far they will 69 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: go to blame literally everything other than guns, and they're 70 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: literally running out of new vantage points to like come 71 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: at this issue without tackling the actual issue, which is 72 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: why I feel like if we're getting into like the 73 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: b sides of shitty arguments with like rittling and then 74 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: recycling old points, it's just it's crazy. Yeah. And also 75 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: that theory that it's the media and video games, and 76 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: George Stephanopolis goes on to say, well that media is 77 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: available all around the world, these video games are available 78 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: all around the world, yet this still seems to be 79 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: a uniquely American problem. It isn't it an access to 80 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: guns thing? And he was like abortion, like whatever. So yes, again, 81 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: blame everything but the guns. And again, if you want 82 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 1: to come for people's video games, then you'll see some 83 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: people fucking go crazy. Man, don't come for the games. Okay, 84 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now. I love my games and 85 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: I'm not these are not. It's such a sort of 86 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: dated idea too, because this that video game media thing 87 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: has been studied so hard because people want it to 88 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: be video game so bad because people It's the same 89 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: way that when comic books came out, you know, there 90 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: was this governmental commission into comic books and how they 91 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: were like corrupting the youth. Well, now video games are 92 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: the new thing. They wanted so bad for video games 93 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: to be a cause of violence or caused people to 94 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: be desensitized to violence, and statistics and studies have shown 95 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: either that there's no correlation or that it's the exact opposite. 96 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: And basically, by keeping people who have violent urges in 97 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: their homes doing violence on video games, you actually cut 98 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: down on actual violence. So it's been like a national 99 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: initiative to like get that opinion to take for so 100 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: long time. I was the last time I was home, 101 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: I found an essay that I had written in the 102 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: fifth grade where it was like we were studying in 103 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: school why video games are bad for you, and like 104 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: here's what I like. I was like, really, we've been 105 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: doing this for like, oh, like your teachers were having 106 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: you write about that. Yeah. Like it was like, uh, 107 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: it must have been some unit that we were taught 108 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: because I found an essay I wrote when I was 109 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: ten about why like video games is bad. Yeah. Yeah, 110 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: we we wanted to talk about the upcoming meetings between 111 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: Donald Trump and North Korean Later, Kim Jong un, Miles, 112 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: you had some interesting updates from me eating about this, 113 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: and I'm it follows a pattern Donald Trump really likes, 114 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: which is spiking the football when you're on the fifty 115 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: yard line right like you scored the motherfucking touchdown and 116 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: not even in the red zone, my guy. Uh So, 117 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: look the past few weeks he has been pumping up 118 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: his old little pep talking about I'm the real peacemaker. 119 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: I should get a Nobel prize. Uh. You know, these 120 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: guys are about to fully d nuke because of me, 121 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And now we're starting to get reports 122 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: that Donald Trump is kind of starting to get cold 123 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: feet because he's worried that this thing could turn in 124 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: to an embarrassment. And there are a couple of things 125 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: to look at why this could possibly seem Again, we 126 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: talked about how dangerous it was for people with very 127 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: fragile egos to meet up and begin to make concessions. 128 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: So first of all, like you know, when Mike Pompey 129 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: had his secret meetings, it seemed like the news came 130 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: out of there was pretty good that North korew was 131 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: open to completely denuclearizing. And you know, again, Donald Trump 132 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: got that football out, started raising his arm, and then 133 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: John Bolton went hunt TV and started saying buzzwords like Libya, 134 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: which are on the no no list when it comes 135 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: to North Korea, because that is the exact scenario that 136 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: Kim Jong lun wants to avoid. And then the North 137 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: Korean chief negotiator was basically kind of making clear is like, 138 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: you know, the idea of total nuclearization probably not gonna happen. 139 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,679 Speaker 1: So that worried Trump to the point that he called 140 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: President Moon of South Korean was like, but earlier he 141 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: said he was gonna do that. What's going on? No, no, no, 142 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: And so that started to add a little bit to 143 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: his nervousness because also, as we've said before that he 144 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: is so thirsty for like a real political win, like 145 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: one that even people on the left or like, you 146 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: know what, Okay, maybe you did, maybe you did pull 147 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: that off. And just in general, he needs something to 148 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: really hang his two pay on, and he doesn't really 149 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: have that. So now this is kind of getting a 150 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: little bit more nervous because of the just desperate need 151 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: for the optics of him being an effective leader. And 152 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: then when you add to that also that he knows 153 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: functionally fuck all about the North Korea nuclear program. It's 154 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: a little worrying too because there are a lot of 155 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: aids writing about how he just is like doesn't really 156 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: understand the complexities of the nuclear program and that how 157 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: that could hinder him when he's trying to actually negotiate 158 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: things because there's things like you know, uranium enrichment and 159 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: plutonium reprocessing and things like that that are vital parts 160 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: of like of making these kinds of deals. And you know, meanwhile, 161 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: he was like trying to take credit or just be like, oh, 162 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 1: you know, well, they're they're going to close this one 163 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: test site, you know, because of the pressure that was 164 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: like a site that had like literally collapsed under the 165 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: sheer like nuclear testing induced earthquakes that was going on. 166 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: So that really wasn't much of a win. So a 167 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: lot of these are kind of coming together to sort 168 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: of create a mood around the White House that Trump 169 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:16,599 Speaker 1: is sort of worried that he's not going to be 170 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: able to do the thing where he flies in on 171 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 1: a golden Eagle to Singapore tells Kim Jong, you know, 172 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: hand over the keys to the nukes, and then he 173 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: flies back being like, okay, American number one piece achieved 174 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: level five liter uh achievement unlocked. So I don't know, 175 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. These Again, these aren't things that 176 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: he's like actually said, oh, we should cancel it, but 177 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: these are the grumblings and rumblings around the White House 178 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: that he's increasingly kind of begin he's starting to get 179 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: a little insecure about the meeting. Well, I think I 180 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: think from his point of view, the meeting will go. 181 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 1: You know, he'll get there and he'll be like, Okay, 182 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: I will show you my PP, you show me your PP. 183 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: Whoever has bigger PP wins the meeting, And maybe he's 184 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: learned getting some intel that someone has a bigger PP 185 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: than or just knows how to actually negotiate, because this 186 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: is like all part of his thing. My God, it's 187 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: like the same thing with just as an aside is 188 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: the trade war with China. Like he just announced that 189 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: he's gonna put the trade war quote on hold because 190 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: like some not real concessions that Chinese made, they just 191 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: sort of like sort of suggested that they may increase 192 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: purchasing certain crops or whatever, and that was enough for 193 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: trying to be like, Okay, let's put the trade war 194 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: on hold. Meanwhile, the whole entire campaign, he was like, Oh, 195 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: China is screwing us. We are gonna really hit them, 196 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: We're going to punish them. And he has also just 197 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: like completely just sort of caved at the first sign 198 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: of pressure or whatever. I don't know, we'll see what happens, 199 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 1: but this seems like the trend of him being Leon 200 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: let in that fateful Super Bowl match where Don Beade 201 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: comes behind him and strips the football from him before 202 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: he can even get to the zone. Right, he's celebrating 203 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: at the one yard line, and I feel like it's 204 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: actually more like that kicker who jumped up to celebrate 205 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: a like earl least season field goal and tour his 206 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: m c L because because it's not it's he had 207 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: a small success very early in the process and celebrated 208 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: it and celebrated it so hard that he has now 209 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: sort of fucked himself in terms of confidence. Also just 210 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: in terms of the leaking, because this is something that 211 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: just comes up over and over again when it comes 212 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: to the coverage of this White House. It's pretty remarkable 213 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: that the people preparing him for a historic summit with 214 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: North Korea are just talking open ship about him, being like, 215 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: he doesn't know what the funk he's talking about, He's 216 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: scared about that, and he's incompetent. What the funk are 217 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: we gonna do? People who are siding with him seem 218 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: to think that this is because there's some deep state 219 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: conspiracy against him. Is that more likely or is it 220 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: more likely that he treats everyone around him like ship 221 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: and everyone who is working with him sees up close 222 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: how incompetent he is and are scared for the future 223 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: of our country. That's exactly because the leaking is not 224 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: a single person who has some agenda. The leaking is 225 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 1: just everywhere. No matter where Trump is, someone's going to 226 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: be like, Uh, you're not gonna believe what the funk 227 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: this guy just said about exactly, Well, that just seems 228 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: like long game thinking on everyone's part too, because it's 229 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: like you won't I mean, hopefully there's someone in the 230 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: White House who has uh the better interest of people, 231 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: although I'm not convinced that's true, but like you know, 232 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 1: like a couple of years on when the Trump thing 233 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: is ideally behind as they want to be able to 234 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: be like, well, I said something. Look remember when I 235 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: lead something I said, I'm not I'm not that bad. 236 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: I'm complisite, but I'm not bad. I was that anonymous source. Yeah, 237 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: I was source from this New York Times article. There 238 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: were people are going to come back and claim that 239 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: they where the source, like when this Nightmar's well, that's 240 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: kind of like how those suspicious activity reports that Michael 241 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: Avinadi got his hands on with Michael Cohen, that was 242 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: someone at the Treasury Department, I think or SEC. I 243 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: forget anyway, someone there who was monitoring that gave it 244 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: to him because he's like I felt that some of 245 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: the activity reports are being like suppressed and not coming out, 246 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: and they were like this is fucking bad and just 247 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: was like here and check this out. So I feel 248 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: like at many levels there are people who yeah, who 249 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: have been like lifelong servants of certain departments and are 250 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: just like this cannot stand. There was a article towards 251 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: the end of last week. I think it was from 252 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: the Washington Post. I need to find that and we'll 253 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: put it in footnote. But the journalist went and asked 254 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: these people who are sources on the Trump White House, 255 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 1: why do you leak? And what is it like being 256 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 1: a leaker in this White House? And it was interesting. 257 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: The reasons they leak are basically what you would expect 258 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: then for the few the country and you know. But 259 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: then the ways they leak are really interesting too, because 260 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 1: they will study quotes by people who they work with 261 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 1: and use vocal ticks of the people they work with 262 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: to cover their tracks to make it seem like they're 263 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: not the leaker and that the other person might be 264 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: the leaker. So they'll look at quotes from somebody and 265 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: then use that voice, that voice essentially to give direct 266 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: quotes to the White House. Well wild Adam Sandlery approach 267 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: to leaking information. I don't think they do an exact 268 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: like you know, I am it's met. One of the 269 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: podcasts I was listening to, I think it was The 270 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: Ringer Weekly podcast with David Shoemaker where they do a 271 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: media deep dive. I think they were speculating this could 272 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: be somebody who realized they betrayed themselves with a leaking quote, 273 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: and then we're like, yeah, I cover my basis by 274 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: pretending to be that other guy. Yeah. So I don't know, 275 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: but it's an interesting time to Leak culture is fascinating. 276 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: Weird hacker culture is fascinating. I think that you know, 277 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: we should just if if you're leaking, you're hacking, just 278 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: visually identify yourself by getting frosty tips and wearing tiny, 279 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: tiny little sunglasses and only way easier for us to 280 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: break these stories. But the other amazing thing is that 281 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: all almost a lot of these people who are leaking 282 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: have to have been put there by the president himself. 283 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: And this is something that we're also seeing, and I 284 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: want to move on briefly to the Mueller investigation. We 285 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: keep seeing the conservative base sort of assuming that people 286 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: who Trump has appointed, who were high aired by him, 287 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: given the job by him, are in a vast conspiracy 288 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: to take him down for reasons that nobody is clear on. 289 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: I think I've now heard that Mueller is out to 290 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: get him. Because Mueller is friends with Komey and he 291 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: wants to get back at him for that. But it's 292 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: not clear why Rosenstein is out to get him because 293 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: Trump hired him and pointed him. And you're saying the 294 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: sort of conservative people are spinning that like these appointees 295 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: are Actually I thought you were saying that there is 296 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: this concerted effort. No, I'm just saying, yeah, the conservative 297 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: take on this. In order to explain away all of 298 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: these sourced leaks that are pointing to just vast incompetence 299 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: and corruption, they're having to formulate this quote deep state 300 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: cover up, that is this vast conspiracy that is all 301 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: out to get him and coordinating to create this narrative. 302 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: But Trump would have had to hire all these various 303 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: conspirators on his own and put them in place for 304 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: that to be true. Well yeah, or they just have 305 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: the complete disregard for the fact that, yes, many of 306 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: these people are in positions that were appointees or whatever 307 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: or lifelong Republicans. So I guess it's at this point, 308 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: you know, because the stories get worse and worse, or 309 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: just the smoke is getting more intense, and the coincidences, 310 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,479 Speaker 1: if you want to call them, coincidences become more and 311 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: more frequent, it's harder to imagine a version of events 312 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: that you know is completely benign. This weekend there were 313 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: revelations that I assumed, we're going to take the entire country, 314 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: both the fort that approves of Trump and that disapproves 315 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: of Trump, in the direction of, well, let's see this 316 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: Mueller thing out, let's see this Puller investigation now. But 317 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: instead it seems to be a case where things are 318 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: continuing to every piece of evidence causes both sides to 319 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: accelerate in the opposite direction. Right. We've talked before about 320 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: how this is one of the key ingredients for civil war, 321 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: is when you have two separate sides of the country 322 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: and everything that each side here's takes them further and 323 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: further apart. And so this morning there was a huge 324 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: op ed that is the number one trending article on 325 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: the Hill, that is a former Democratic Party operative named 326 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: Mark Penn who is saying it's time to end the 327 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: Muller investigation. He basically lays out the argument that I've heard, 328 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: the conservative argument is fairly consistent against the Mueller investigation, 329 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: that it's this deep state thing and that there was 330 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: never evidence in the first place, and never evidence that 331 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: anybody can point to in concrete terms. And the latest, 332 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: you know, revelations of meetings at Trump Tower where Donald 333 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: Trump Jr. Opened the meeting with a Russian Kremlin operative 334 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: by saying, I hear you have information for us. Uh. 335 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: That doesn't it doesn't play into doesn't add any fuel 336 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: to the suspicion that something might be going on here. 337 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:13,239 Speaker 1: And now there's evidence of more conversations that happened at 338 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: Trump Tower. Uh. This this new meeting was between the 339 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: guy who headed up Blackwater and Prince Betsy Devas's brother 340 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: Eric Prince the just shadiest dude in the world, and 341 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: an operative from the UAE and Saudi Arabia. This guy 342 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: George Nader and a social media expert for a firm 343 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: which employed several Israeli former intelligence officers who specialized in 344 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 1: collecting information and shaping opinion through social media, which is 345 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: a fancy way of describing social media manipulation campaign. Yes, 346 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: and I literally can't keep all these people we need 347 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: like a guess who board it's really people. I can't 348 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: keep it straight. There's not enough red string, right, and 349 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: it's crazy because there's just this a abundance of information 350 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: that is like, well, that's clearly the behavior of a 351 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: guilty person. But anyways, so it is technically illegal for 352 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: a campaign for a public office in America to work 353 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: with foreign foreign money. And these conversations have people saying, 354 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, the social media expert being like, we will 355 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:33,959 Speaker 1: here's our multimillion dollar proposal to help your father become 356 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: president and just because then he will allow us to 357 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: continue the factory. Uh yeah, because I'm sure it's a 358 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: very clear choice. If you're like, do you want a 359 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: world where Hillary Clinton is the president and is going 360 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: to try and enforce things or some guy who's sleazy 361 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: and can literally you can just pull up to Trump 362 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: Town and be like, hey, how much you need man, 363 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: because let's work something out. I do need the people 364 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: who are you know, thet who are critical of Trump 365 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: to just be a little bit more focused, because I 366 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: feel like you're hearing all of the information, just all 367 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: these different stories. And for instance, there was a story 368 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago where a judge came after 369 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: Mueller about Manafort and how how do you justify going 370 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: after man Afford It has nothing to do with the case, 371 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: And that was the last I heard of that story. 372 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: But apparently they explained their case to the judge and 373 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: the judge was like, oh, okay, I get it, and 374 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: they moved on from that. But that was a key 375 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: piece of evidence, I think because the forty two percent 376 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 1: that approve of Trump have fewer pieces of evidence and 377 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: so they like cling to them and use them more carefully, 378 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: whereas the people who actually think there might be something 379 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: here in the Muller investigation are just they're just burning 380 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: through every new revelation like it's junk food. They are. 381 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: They are doing the Homeland thing. They got their wall 382 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: set up with all the red string, right, and yeah 383 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: and on. I think on the other side, for conservatives, 384 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: if there aren't like real indictments or things like that, 385 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: they're not really paying attention to those kinds of developments 386 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: because that's again just part of the noise of this 387 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: witch hunt that they don't care about because nothing happened. 388 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 1: It's you're at the Mueller cook out and you're serving 389 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: up nothing burgers. And like then then making too much 390 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: noise around any single story always works because yeah, like 391 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: are critical of Trump just get exhausted, Like if you 392 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: scream in someone's ear, about some stuff that's relevant and 393 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: some stuff that isn't. For long enough, it's like you 394 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: just get you know, like people, Yeah, you get exhausted. 395 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: And I don't know. And if you're like me, lose 396 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: track of who's who because there's a new name every 397 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: two seconds and there are people entering the story and 398 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: people we can't accept you to keep up. I mean, 399 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: you're you're a woman on the go. You have to 400 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: do quick. You know, shallow grave barriers. I got to 401 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: take a shallow grave on my way home. The revolving 402 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: door of characters you have to keep track of is 403 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: so complex, and I understand why people get exhausted, but 404 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: it's also like, yeah, that's what they want, and I 405 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: think I have too, especially like as we talk about 406 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 1: it more and more and I sort of slowly have 407 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: just adopted the mentality to kind of like, look, yes, 408 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: let's investigate this. I can't put all all of this 409 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: faith in this that this is going to correct everything, 410 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: because I don't think it will. And also I don't 411 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if how much political will there is 412 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: in d C to actually do anything to bring this 413 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: president in at least not until the mid terms. Yeah, 414 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: I think It's partially that because there is less evidence 415 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: on the side of the fort, they just have a 416 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:41,719 Speaker 1: single argument that they're relying. Therefore, it becomes more coherent 417 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 1: and it has the appearance of their argument being more disciplined, 418 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: whereas the left's case is sort of constantly evolving because 419 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 1: there's all this evidence and new stories piling in. I 420 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: also think it has to do with the fact that 421 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: we've brought up before on the show. The left doesn't 422 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: have a single opinion based outlet, that is, they're clear 423 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 1: and obvious, you know, mouthpiece the way that the right 424 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: does it. In Fox News. You know, the left is 425 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: still led by journalistic institutions, and journalistic institutions just have 426 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 1: the mission statement of reporting facts, not coming up with 427 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: a coherent argument one way or another. And I think 428 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: that also keeps things somewhat scattered because I think also, 429 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,479 Speaker 1: I mean, even with MSNBC obviously being the most left leaning, 430 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: you'll get versions of it, but they don't quite venture 431 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: into the world of fantasy like Fox does. Uh. You know, 432 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: it's it's very raw, raw Democrats on MSNBC that and 433 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: sometimes you know, people like Laurence O'Donnell completely overlooked things 434 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: which whatever, But I think, yeah, I know what you mean. 435 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: There's nothing, there's nothing that's quite as aggressive as the 436 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: sort of media machine on the right. It's a yeah, 437 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: it's and it's a lose lose because they're like oversimplifying 438 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: stuff to the point of like fantasy and forest and craziness. 439 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: And it's like, you don't want that for the left. 440 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: But what is a way to present, uh, you know, 441 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 1: everything you need to know and and filter out the 442 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: noise Like it's so it's so hard to do. I 443 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: think the only way to do it is for everybody 444 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: to listen to the daily thank you, that's what we're 445 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 1: here for for just really unchecked. But even on the 446 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: side of dates, yeah, even on the side of MSNBC, 447 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: MSNBC is just another voice in this coophony of different 448 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 1: sources that people on the left to pay attention to. 449 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: Whereas the right, it's like the whole Republican Party has 450 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: a very disciplined information architecture that is coming down from 451 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: Fox News. And you know, Fox News's loudest voice speaks 452 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: to the president every night to like decompress. And Fox 453 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 1: News was started by Roger Ales, who was a Republican 454 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: political operative for Nixon and was like, there's room for 455 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: me to create a political machine and you know, make 456 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: it a key player in politics. Well, and he's sure. 457 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: Our podcast is still bigger than the Fox News podcast. 458 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: So you know we're on our way. Yeah, we're gonna 459 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: nail this. Uh yeah, Russell Limboff doesn't have ship on us. 460 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: What are you saying? All Right, we're gonna He's been 461 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: the whole time I'm here, this handfuls of Okay, I 462 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: only I only ride the yellow submarine. Alright, we're gonna 463 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: take a quick break and we'll be right back, and 464 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: we're back. We wanted to talk about something that sixty 465 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 1: minutes has covered a lot of different you know, respected 466 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 1: journalistic outlets have covered the possibility that the upcoming election 467 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: will be hacked, terms, the mid term elections being hacked. 468 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: There's just all sorts of evidence that points to foreign 469 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: powers infiltrating various election security networks. And uh, the U 470 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: S agency charged with ensuring that voting machines meet security 471 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: standards was itself penetrated by a hacker after the November elections. 472 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: Um so they've been testing the fences and getting through 473 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: the fences easily and all of these signs exactly. The 474 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: raptors are testing the fences. The Russians in this case 475 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: are testing the fences. And the really scary thing is 476 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 1: that a lot of states in America don't have paper 477 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: ballots that back up their electronic ballots, so that leaves 478 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: us very open to I think what we call fucory, 479 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: in which the vote count could possibly be manipulated. And 480 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: there's been all kinds of weird stuff that has not 481 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: been really brought up in the news that is like 482 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: kind of fucking like next level sort. I don't know 483 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: if it's the next level, because I don't know anything. 484 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: But for example, like they found these cell site stimulators 485 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: are called sting rayser I m s I catchers, and 486 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: you know, it's not surprising. They then certain articles they 487 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,959 Speaker 1: say that they would that foreign intelligence groups or criminal 488 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: groups would use this kind of uh hardware in the capital. 489 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: But for the first time, the DHS sort of acknowledged 490 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: that this stuff could possibly uh intercept sensitive political communications. Uh. 491 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 1: There are computers. There are a pair of Princeton computer 492 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: scientists have also pointed out that these cell phone simulators 493 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: they can like which they mimic legitimate cell towers, can 494 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: also be used for like inexpensive vote hacking. So basically 495 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: the sting ray would intercept the vote totals from the 496 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: voting machine before they're uploaded to the actual canvassing computer 497 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: or mainframe thing. So and again they're just sort of like, oh, 498 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: how these weird cell simulators show up in d C. 499 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: There's just there are many other sort of frightening things 500 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: along with the idea that yeah, we don't have paper 501 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: records in certain states, like important states like Pennsylvania. Is 502 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: this not the number one priority of anyone who has 503 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: anything to do with running elections in this country? I mean, 504 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: this is this angers me so much that that whether 505 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: people are so cynical or lazy or a manipulative that 506 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: they saw what happened in sixteen and it wasn't their 507 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: number one priority to look at how can we prevent 508 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: this from happening again? Whatever your party is, just if 509 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: you if you like America, if you like democracy, how 510 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: can you not want to make sure that the integrity 511 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: of the elections. But if you're hyperpartisan, you might be like, well, 512 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: this might be the only way to fight off a 513 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: democratic wavell you know, because clearly intelligence community said that 514 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,719 Speaker 1: Russia clearly favorite Trump over Hillary Clinton, and using that 515 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: information we assume that possibly that's I don't think that 516 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: people are going to hack in the name of progressive 517 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: ideals for the left, but yeah, you know, I think 518 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: even in Europe, because they were really worried about certain 519 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: elections in the last year getting manipulated by foreign actors 520 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: or whatever, that some places just did all paper. They're like, 521 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: we don't even want to mess with computers because at 522 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: least we know, like we're looking at human beings using 523 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: a paper ballot, and we have that we're counting that, right, 524 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: So that's pretty scary stuff. And the DHS, the Department 525 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: of Homeland Security yesterday had a presentation for Congress to 526 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: which forty members of Congress showed up on the higher end, 527 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: so that's like roughly ten percent of Congress bothered to 528 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: turn up. So I don't know if it's cynicism. I 529 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,959 Speaker 1: don't know if it's people on both sides being like, well, 530 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: Trump is clearly never going to do anything about this 531 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: because it's not in his interest to plug these holes. Essentially, well, 532 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: then we've done functionally nothing about it, right. I guess 533 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania is still working with electronic ballots that they got 534 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: in that they put into a rotation in two thousand two, um, 535 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: and they are they just got funding to replace them 536 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: with new machines that will be updated in two thousand nineteen, 537 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: just in time, just in time for and then I 538 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: think had a few different like hacker conventions in like Vegas. 539 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: They were easily just penetrating like these voting machines and 540 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: like and hacked, and now I can do whatever I 541 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: want in here. So yeah, I mean, I don't know 542 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: what what it is if there, you know, I'm it 543 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: surprised me that only fifty commerce people have showed up. 544 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if that speaks to that they felt 545 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: the briefing was skewed or whatever. But when you read 546 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: the headline that they gave a briefing on sort of 547 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: election security and the numbers are low, Yeah, this should 548 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: be the most important, I mean, aside from just you know, 549 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: not getting physically attacked by somebody. But it's like, what's 550 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: more important? That's what we fought for, Yeah, exactly, this 551 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: is our actual democracy. This is how we know the 552 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: will of the people. Was it that hearing though, where 553 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: someone from the DHS said that they weren't aware of 554 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: any evidence that the Russians had hacked the election, even 555 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: though it was a publicly available report. Kirsten Nielsen, who 556 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: is the head of DHS, said something to that effect 557 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: of more like she didn't she hadn't heard of the 558 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: intelligence community's assessment that Russia favorite Trump. Maybe that was it, Yeah, yeah, 559 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: which was weird of just sort of like, oh, really, 560 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's like what he's saying, like, how 561 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: are you on one hand being like our elections are 562 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: vulnerable from who oh I don't know, but look anyway, 563 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: it says everything that they believe that if they were, 564 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: if they were a fair election, that they wouldn't win. Well, yeah, 565 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: that that's why the you know, the redistricting and all 566 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: those efforts are massively frightening to the GOP because they 567 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: spent so long completely gerrymandering the districts and suppressing votes 568 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: that if they're like, wait, we're not gonna win a 569 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: fair one, you know, So we'll see, we'll see what happens. 570 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure, as you'd hope, this story will pick up 571 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: some steam and they'll be some kind of more public 572 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: pressure for them to do. Is there time? Is there 573 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: time to fix this stuff. I'd imagine certainly to harden 574 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,959 Speaker 1: the targets, or at the very least, like you know, 575 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: you just go all analog and you're like, yo, every 576 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: everywhere's paper ballot. But I don't see how you don't 577 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: do that, because otherwise, the the idea that you would 578 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: have elections and they could be compromised and we wouldn't 579 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: know it. We just wouldn't have the paper back up 580 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: to see if people's votes have been changed. That's fucking insane. 581 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: There's no way around that. You need to not do 582 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: that if that's your plan. Yeah, I don't know the 583 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: whole idea of like jerrymandering and now this, I I 584 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: just wonder if I know that I personally was less motivated. 585 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: I feel like in the past, the gop UH and 586 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: the right has been way more motivated to find these 587 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,959 Speaker 1: cracks that they can exploit in the system. And I 588 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: feel like a lot of people who opposed far right 589 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: wing politics were just made aware and just like sort 590 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: of activated. So that would be the possibly hopeful spin 591 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: to put on it is that all this fuckory is 592 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: going to be harder for them to pull off now 593 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: that people have seen how bad it can get if 594 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: if you're not actively engaged and you know, getting out 595 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: and voting and you know, monitoring and making sure that 596 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: the electoral system is protected. So we shall see. A 597 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: brief news flash is that a sinkhole is opening up 598 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 1: in the White House lawn. It's growing every day. So yeah, 599 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: someone who's not very subtle is writing the news now apparently, 600 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: whether it be the Veep writing staff or just or 601 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: it's a biblical thing, you know, like Hell could be 602 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: opening up to swallow it. Yeah, the Old Testament is 603 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: definitely not very subtle. Yeah, yeah, but I love the Pentateuch. 604 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: You've always been a fan, so uh, let's get into 605 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,280 Speaker 1: the Michael Cohen letter that would get into the Onion. 606 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: Back in two thousand thirty published this story that was, Okay, 607 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: if first of all, I've really in this show, you 608 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: don't know what what, then the Onion is shame on you. 609 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: The Onion is a satirical website. Is one of the 610 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: great satirical news websites publications out there. Uh and in 611 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: they ran an op ed which is fake. Let me 612 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: say that again, a fake satirical ha ha lo lo 613 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: loll jokey op ed written by Donald Trump supposedly, but 614 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: it's satirical, so we know it wasn't actually written by him, 615 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 1: called when You're Feeling Low Just Remember, I'll be dead 616 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: and about fifteen or twenty years, And it was just 617 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: a very you know, stupid, just sort of piece about 618 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, you know, dying because he sucks. That's right, 619 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: and they're not very distant future. I will die and 620 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: then be gone from the world for all eternity. You 621 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: may even get to watch me in a casket on 622 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 1: national television being lowered into the ground, never to be 623 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 1: seen again. I bet you're smiling just thinking about that. Yeah. 624 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: And then so because you know Michael Cohen, he's like 625 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: number one attack dog for Trump or who knows how 626 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: this letter came about A letter, very angry takedown letter 627 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 1: was written by Michael Cohen in all seriousness to the onion, 628 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: and it goes like this, Dear Mr Hannah, I wish 629 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: to call your attention to an article currently on your homepage, 630 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: allegedly penned by Donald Trump entitled when You're Feeling Glow, 631 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: Just Remember I'll be dead about ten or fifteen years. 632 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 1: Let me begin by stating the obvious that the commentary 633 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: was not written by Mr Trump. Secondly, the article is 634 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: an absolutely disgusting piece that lacks any place in journalism, 635 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: even in your onion. I am here by demanding that 636 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: you immediately remove this disgraceful piece from your website an 637 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: issue an apology to Mr Trump. I further asked that 638 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: you contact immediately to discuss this commentary goes way beyond defamation, 639 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 1: and if not immediately removed, I will take all actions 640 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: necessary to ensure your actions do not go without consequence. 641 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:47,720 Speaker 1: Guide yourself accordingly yours, Michael Collins, Oh yours? Yeah, warmly, 642 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: crely Coco. So yeah, I mean, he clearly didn't know 643 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: what the fun the Onion was. And it turns out 644 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 1: when you ask people, so our writer Jam mcnaw was 645 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: ind of looking into this thing, and there have been 646 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 1: articles written about this moment at the Onion and what happened, 647 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 1: and like one of the people who used to work 648 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: there speculates that it was probably Trump himself that wrote 649 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: this letter and just had Michael Cohen sent it off. 650 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 1: They point to just sort of like the words like 651 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: this article is disgraceful and disgusting and essentially amounts to 652 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: I demand an apology. I hereby demand yeah, exactly, um, 653 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 1: and it just sort of like that sort of like 654 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 1: that just is the total Trump brand in terms of, 655 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 1: you know, his writing style and like the wording they 656 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: say is wonky is nowhere even close to being like 657 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 1: legal ease. I mean granted, granted went to like literally 658 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: garbage law school, so of course we can't expect him 659 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: to use like real, you know, like nuanced vocabulary. But yeah, 660 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: Trump is the one who sits around googling Donald Trump 661 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: all day every day, not Michael Cohen, or maybe it 662 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 1: is Michael Cohen, but if so, that's very sad um. 663 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 1: But the crazy part is when the Onion put out 664 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: this piece Michael home and then gets on Twitter to 665 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: be like, see, I knew that was you guys. It's 666 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:12,240 Speaker 1: clearly a satirical website, so therefore my response was also satire. Therefore, 667 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: by the laws of comedy, I am the new lord 668 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 1: of ha has. I don't know, I mean, like, was 669 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: he just read his tweet? Maybe all of you hashtag 670 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: haters hashtag trolls missed the memo, But at the Onion 671 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 1: is a news satire organization that means dot dot dot, 672 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: it's not real, but not I think he's because they 673 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 1: just came out with an article today, I think, but 674 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 1: he was responding to where they lie. I thought the 675 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: story was that they hadn't responded to it, and they 676 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,959 Speaker 1: just recently discovered that they So they said, they said 677 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: that this editorial saying all right, we'd like to take 678 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,320 Speaker 1: you up in your offer to come and talk to 679 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 1: you whatever, Like, well, well, we'll take that down in 680 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 1: exchange for access to the president, like the quid pro 681 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: quo if you would, Yeah, yeah, that's great. So I 682 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: think he was saying that that was sad tire, or 683 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,839 Speaker 1: or that that the letter itself it was. I don't 684 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: know either way, the fact that he would have to 685 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 1: come out he was like, oh, that's a joke that 686 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: I would do quid pro quo with the president who 687 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 1: is clicking on hashtag trolls like looking for let me 688 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: see what the trolls are trying to be the marketing 689 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: people who put out the failed animated version of the UM. 690 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 1: I just love the idea of him explaining to us 691 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: that the onion is satire. What a genius. He's just yeah, again, Trump, 692 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: you know, this is John. There's no humor. He has 693 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: no sense of humor. He is not he is incapable 694 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 1: of any's so thin skinned, and that's that's one of 695 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 1: the things that people. I think Comy wrote about it, 696 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: and I think there's other people who spend time around 697 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: him who remarked that the most notable thing about Donald 698 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,760 Speaker 1: Trump when you spend time around him is he never laughs, 699 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 1: never smiles, it's just all. And we spent a lot 700 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 1: of time looking for clips of him laughing, and I 701 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:06,359 Speaker 1: think we found one. Yeah, that's sort of like an angry, 702 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: passive aggressive if they were also saying, like this other 703 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 1: piece that Donald Trump actually called the onion because there 704 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 1: was no response to that email, which would also lead 705 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 1: you to yea, and of course it was old Donnie. Sorry, 706 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: John Miller, you couldn't spend this one this time. And 707 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: I've talked about how when I was at ABC News, 708 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 1: we were creating a piece about how Donald Trump is 709 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 1: not as rich as he claims, and he himself called 710 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 1: the office maybe thirty times a day. He is don't 711 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 1: drag me, please, don't drag but yeah, except basically threatening 712 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 1: to sue until the ABC News legal department was like okay. 713 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,320 Speaker 1: And also, if you look at Michael Cohen's writing style, 714 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 1: where we've seen him actually sending ship to other people. 715 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,399 Speaker 1: He'll be like, what I will do to you will 716 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,399 Speaker 1: be fucking disgusting, you know what I mean. Like, that's 717 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 1: how Michael Cohen comes at you. So there's the other thing. 718 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: When you look at his past works, you can tell 719 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: that he's this is not his usual writing style. All right, guys, 720 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 1: let's get into the stories of the day, and we 721 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 1: have to open up with some hard hitting ship because 722 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: there is a new Laurel v Yanni and a couple 723 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 1: actually that we want to play for you guys. So 724 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: first off, we are going to play some Rihanna for you. 725 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,919 Speaker 1: So we're gonna play just a little segment of one 726 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 1: of her songs. That's not so that part right there, 727 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 1: I think I always assumed was because I'm a paper chase, 728 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 1: And people pointed out that if you now think about 729 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,760 Speaker 1: the phrase because I'm a big fucking slut, you get 730 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 1: a different version. So think about that phrase as you 731 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: listen to it. That's not yeah, you can do that 732 00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 1: one more time. That's not dame. Well, that's that's in 733 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,399 Speaker 1: there too. I guess if you really want to listen 734 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 1: to because I'm a big so no, I want some 735 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:15,799 Speaker 1: case so wait, can you play that back? Make let 736 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: me hear that one, because I'm a Finn for Cable. 737 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 1: So then there's also this piano thing that you were 738 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,720 Speaker 1: playing for me this morning. Most Yeah, so someone on Twitter, 739 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,839 Speaker 1: I think hit us up there, like, yo, check this 740 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 1: new one out. So on the same article from that website, 741 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 1: think is I love science underneath it? They had this 742 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: version of a Staining Alive by the Bgs, But it's 743 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: like they basically had this computer program interpret the song 744 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 1: through MIDI piano. So basically this version of Staying Alive 745 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 1: is only piano notes. But when you listen, you swear 746 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: you could like hear the actual vocals of the song. 747 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 1: It's a little trippy. Listen to this, Yeah, so I 748 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 1: know it sounds like the fucking Nightmare Health Gap. It does. 749 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,720 Speaker 1: It sounds like the Begs are being drowned by piano music. 750 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 1: Their voices are like trying to sing, or it would 751 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,760 Speaker 1: be like a trippy video where there's like an eight 752 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: bit c and they fell into it and we're drowning 753 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 1: in like a bit crushed world. And that's a very 754 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 1: deep technical dargon, but yes, but it's weird. You can 755 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 1: kind of hear the lyrics and there it was very 756 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,560 Speaker 1: it's odd. Yeah, the only piano notes. So there's your 757 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,279 Speaker 1: auditory illusion for the day. Because we said this show 758 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,400 Speaker 1: is now all about auditory allusions. Yeah, these two remind 759 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 1: me of like conspiracy theories because they're like so obviously 760 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 1: there you can actually hear it, like you're finding stuff 761 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 1: hidden in the fabric of a thing that you've heard before. 762 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,319 Speaker 1: But like once your mind starts to like put the 763 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 1: shape of things on it, it's like impossible not to hear. So, 764 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 1: like with the JFK conspiracy theory, if you talk to 765 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: a conspiracy theorist, they are like, look, man right there 766 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 1: and the grassy knoll, you can see it, and if 767 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 1: you if you look hard enough, you can kind of 768 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 1: see a guy there. But what about the lady with 769 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 1: the you can't see your face? Oh shit, see, don't 770 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 1: get Quincy Jones in here. There's so many theories on 771 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 1: the JFK thing, and I think it's because it is 772 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: the most analyzed like twelve seconds of film and just 773 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 1: of reality in the history of the world. So you're 774 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 1: gonna just in the same way that like if you 775 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,319 Speaker 1: listen to a song enough, you're going to be able 776 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 1: to hear new things in it. If you look at 777 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 1: this scenario enough times, you're gonna be able to come 778 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 1: up with different versions that are equally there that your mind. Like, 779 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 1: we'll tell you for certain like that is happening right there. 780 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,760 Speaker 1: But you know it's actually our minds looking to put 781 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 1: patterns and meaning in things that weren't actually intended or 782 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 1: weren't actually there. And don't we do that anyways? You 783 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,360 Speaker 1: know in our daily lives and daily waking lives. What 784 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 1: do they mean by that? Exactly? What did they not 785 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,719 Speaker 1: mean by that? So why would you open up this 786 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 1: JFK box of worms and not allow us to talk 787 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 1: about it? Okay, dude, uncool? Yeah, I just like to 788 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 1: put it out there. And then you know, the mob. 789 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 1: I think it was a MOB and the CIA together together. 790 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,880 Speaker 1: I think JFK was going to some more progressive ideas 791 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,839 Speaker 1: and CIA or it had other plants. Hey, we don't 792 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 1: I mean, look, we don't have to. Don't ask me 793 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 1: about it. But it could have been John Connor. I 794 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,319 Speaker 1: don't know. But at the same time, as Scarface once said, 795 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:11,319 Speaker 1: my mind's playing tricks on me. Okay, thank you, all right, 796 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 1: I guess we're gonna move on. All right, we're gonna 797 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 1: take a quick break. We'll be right back. I'm not 798 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 1: happy and we're back jackies. What is something that is underrated? 799 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,520 Speaker 1: Let me hit you out with this, h miles. We 800 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 1: may know something about this the days, the days. Oh yeah, yeah, 801 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 1: clean your butt with water, boy. Let me tell you. 802 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 1: If you still just using tissue, get in the game. 803 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 1: You ain't in the game. And at first four years 804 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, using tissues, I use baby wipes. Na. 805 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,879 Speaker 1: If you're still using baby wipes, yo, ask ain't clean man. 806 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 1: So did you just get one of those seat attachments? Yeah? 807 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,799 Speaker 1: Forty dollars on apmos? Sigh. Wow is it easy too? 808 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,440 Speaker 1: It was like ten minutes to hook it up. And 809 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 1: uh and you and full disclosure, you do work for 810 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: this company? Quick, I work for this company. So let 811 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,360 Speaker 1: me plug you know you're plugging real quick? No. Yeah, 812 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,719 Speaker 1: it has changed my pooping life. Do you have the 813 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 1: squatty potty too? That would be the most Then you 814 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 1: would have the most lit fecal set up every bowel 815 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 1: movement zone. It's the best thing, dude. Yeah. And my 816 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 1: mine has the thing where you can adjust to pressure, 817 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 1: so like if it gets too high, then like you 818 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 1: started getting water like up your grass and like that 819 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,880 Speaker 1: doesn't feel great. But you don't need a calonic. You 820 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 1: don't need yeah yeah, yeah, but unless you do yeah 821 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 1: unless Hey, but if you having pressure watched the driveway 822 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 1: in a little bit, you know what, bring it back 823 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 1: to life. Maybe you to turn up the pressure. I 824 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 1: know in Japan, yes, so like the big Japan, most 825 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 1: of the seats, like most people when they go to Japan, 826 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 1: like the toilet seats are like warm, and then like 827 00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,719 Speaker 1: a thing will like there's like an invisible to day. Yes, 828 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 1: we've been on that ship for a while. But the 829 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,719 Speaker 1: biggest thing is, you know, sometimes wiping does not suffice 830 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,440 Speaker 1: and you just need to just the cleansing power of 831 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:12,319 Speaker 1: a water stream is just great, great for you. Let 832 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 1: me let me even expand on that just in general, 833 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 1: Like if you roll around in dirt and like mud 834 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 1: and then just get a dry paper towel and wipe 835 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,880 Speaker 1: yourself off, you're still dirty. You can still see the 836 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,759 Speaker 1: dub the mud smears, So at least use a baby 837 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,319 Speaker 1: white out. At least use a baby white And if 838 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 1: you want to get to that next level, get yourself 839 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 1: up a day. Yeah, man, we're just making just making 840 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 1: changes over here. Ya got the day's anybody? And I've 841 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,439 Speaker 1: had one for airbnbad a house once that had one 842 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 1: and you never left. Yeah, I definitely need to Was 843 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,360 Speaker 1: it not know that was a edition? Was it European stylar? 844 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,360 Speaker 1: It was one with like the fancy toilet seat. Fancy 845 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,320 Speaker 1: toilet seat. You can get a more expensive like you 846 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 1: can get one like three hundred bucks as like heated 847 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,479 Speaker 1: toilet seeds and heated water and yeah, the most lit 848 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:09,759 Speaker 1: ones are made by Toto the total Washlet shout out 849 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 1: to Japanese ingenuity, although who knows who invented it first, 850 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,759 Speaker 1: but yeah, shout out to the bidet and shout out 851 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,200 Speaker 1: shout out. Hit us up with your bidday stories. Yeah, 852 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 1: the first time you use a bi day, how did 853 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,960 Speaker 1: it take a picture? Take a photo of yourself the 854 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 1: moment the budat hits you? So you didn't capture that 855 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:32,319 Speaker 1: moment my first biddaye or like? Also you ever pay 856 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 1: attention to the face you make me wipe your ass? No, 857 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,759 Speaker 1: think about that next time you wipe your ass. If so, 858 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,440 Speaker 1: if you make a face while you do it, like 859 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 1: if it's like cocked eyebrow a purse lip. You know, 860 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,719 Speaker 1: I probably do, like just be aware of the face 861 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,799 Speaker 1: you make when you're weipping you, but probably carl my lip, 862 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,839 Speaker 1: Probably Carl it Mine's just a lot of like downtrodden 863 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:57,280 Speaker 1: self reflection, like they're like, I'm wiping again, it's never ending, 864 00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,320 Speaker 1: or it's like the it's like like dential crazy or 865 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,759 Speaker 1: a puppy dog guilt. Every time they like poop, they 866 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:10,560 Speaker 1: just look guilty. Right, all right, that's gonna do it 867 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:14,680 Speaker 1: for this week's weekly Zeite. Guys, please like and review 868 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:18,759 Speaker 1: the show. If you like the show, uh means the 869 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:23,279 Speaker 1: world to Miles. He needs your validation. Folks. I hope 870 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,239 Speaker 1: you're having a great weekend and I will talk to 871 00:50:26,280 --> 00:51:16,920 Speaker 1: him Monday. By