WEBVTT - The Covenant School Shooting and the Right Wing Response 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:08.080 Hey, everyone, this is It Could Happen here, a podcast 0:00:08.280 --> 0:00:12.440 about things falling apart sometimes about putting things back together. 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:16.439 This is one of the former episodes, because we are 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:19.360 recording this in the immediate wake, within a couple of 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:23.120 hours of America's the United States of America's most recent 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:28.440 mass shooting in Tennessee at a Christian school called Covenant. 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:33.640 You know, obviously there are way too many mass shootings 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:35.879 in the United States for us to cover each one. 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:38.280 We are talking about this now in a timely manner 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:42.200 because there's a bunch of very specific disinformation coming out 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:47.120 about it, and particularly disinformation that is part of the 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:50.800 broader targeting by the right wing of transgender people. So 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:52.839 I'm going to for the first part of this, I'm 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:55.160 going to turn things over to Garrison, who has been 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:59.200 doing specific research on the shooter and what we can 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:03.600 actually verify at this moment about their identity. Upfront, I'll 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:06.760 say that the police have identified this person as Audrey 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:11.240 Hale twenty eight of Nashville NBC News notes quote who 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:16.039 said she identifies as transgender. Again, this is not quite right. 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:18.040 We'll talk about it, but the right wing is obviously 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:21.560 running with the idea that this is a transgender shooter 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:24.640 and part of a trans a series. They will argue 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:28.680 of transgender attacks on Christians. We're going to talk about 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:31.399 the right wing sort of analysis of this later, but 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:33.680 first I'm going to again push to Garrison, who will 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:36.559 talk about what we actually can verify about this person 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:40.760 and about this shooting at this point. Yeah, just as 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:43.400 a note here, throughout this episode, there will be some 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:46.200 what is probably miss gendering because we're going to be 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:49.560 quoting from a lot of other people's statements, and also 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:52.160 there will be mentions of like a few slurs against 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:56.120 trans people just because we are quoting from a whole 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:58.920 bunch of stuff and some of the details regarding the 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:03.120 gender of the person in question is relatively unknown at 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:06.040 the time. So just as a heads up, Okay, So yeah, 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:08.359 I'm gonna go just gonna go over a few things 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:14.000 regarding what we know happened, what the school was, because 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:15.960 I think that kind of that might play into it, 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:18.480 but that will kind of veer on speculation, So we're 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:20.120 just going to limit it towards what we actually know 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:24.560 and then to attempt to avoid speculation on this episophere. Yes, 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:28.640 so someone caring multipier arms entered a private Christian school 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:31.440 in Nashville this Monday morning and shot and killed three 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:34.320 nine year old students and three adult staff members in 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:39.120 their sixties, including the head of the school, doctor Katherine Khans. 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:42.200 Police initially claimed the shooter was a teenager, but minutes 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:45.160 later changed course and described them as a twenty eight 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:48.360 year old woman from Nashville. It was then reported pretty 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:51.160 quickly in NBC News that the shooter was identified as 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:54.240 Audrey Hale, twenty eight, of Nashville, and the police chief 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:57.919 said she identifies as transgender. NBC has another article out 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:00.720 there that says Audrey Hale, twenty eight, who police say 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:04.880 was a transgender woman, quote unquote. So we will get 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:08.040 into that here in a sec But the shooter entered 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:10.760 the Covenant School via a side door, according to the 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:14.320 Metro Nashville Police spokesperson Don Aaron, and was armed with 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:18.040 at least two quote unquote assault style rifles and a 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:22.600 handgun unquote. It looks like it's an er rifle and 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:26.000 an air pistol and then also a handgun. Nashville Police 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:29.080 Chief John Drake has said, quote at one point she 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:32.079 was a student at that school, but we are unsure 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:36.080 of what year unquote, and that Hale shot through the 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:38.800 door to gain entry into the school. The shooter made 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:40.520 their way through the first and second floors at the school, 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:43.320 firing multiple shots before Hale was killed by police on 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:49.000 the school's second floor. So it's assumed by the police 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:51.480 at this point, and they may have evidence that it's 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:54.600 not been like made public yet that the shooter did 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:57.000 attend to school, but they are unsure for like exactly 0:03:57.040 --> 0:04:01.600 how long and what years specifically. I think it's important 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:04.200 to mention a few things about the school just because 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:07.320 this is a very unique mass shooting in a lot 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:10.720 of ways, mass shootings at private schools, let alone private 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:14.760 Christian schools is very rare. And this is also like 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:19.760 a preschool through sixth grade school. So the Covenant School 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:22.159 is a preschool through sixth grade private Christian school founded 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:24.280 in two thousand and one, and it shares the same 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:28.000 location as Covenant Presbyterian Church. The website states it has 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:31.640 thirty three teaching faculty and around two hundred enrolled students 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:35.400 per year, with tuition at around sixteen thousand dollars a year. 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:38.200 According to the school's website. To quote, the Covenant School 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:40.840 is a ministry of Covenant Presbyterian Church created to assist 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:44.320 Christian parents and the church by providing an exceptional academic 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:49.039 experience founded upon and informed by the Word of God. So, 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:51.679 I mean, honestly, this this is something that's pretty similar 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:53.599 to the type of Christian school that I grew up in. 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:58.000 It's the school that's attached to this church. I also 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:00.920 had around two hundred fellow students, so that this seems 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:04.320 seems to be relatively pretty similar and not super uncommon 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:08.080 for this type of private Christian school. Um, that's kind 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:10.800 of all I'm going to get into that here. I mean, 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:13.280 I've I've looked around the school's website a lot, and 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:16.880 it seems pretty pretty basic in terms of these types 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:20.839 of Presbyterian private Christian schools. But now we're gonna start 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:23.560 getting into some of this stuff regarding the identity of 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:26.800 the shooter, and a lot there's because there's a lot 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:28.800 a lot of information going around. NBC News is now 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:31.880 claiming that the shooter is a transgender woman. I don't 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:36.200 think that's fully accurate, Um, but we're gonna expect quoting 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:40.600 directly from the Yeah, this is to be fair, I mean, 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:43.200 partly NBC's fault because more they should have done as 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:45.800 much research as you did, Garrison. Yeah, but they are 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:49.080 quoting the police. Yeah. Yes, The gist is that the 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:53.280 police identified this as a transgender woman. They have a manifesto. 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:56.200 We don't know what's in the manifesto, but yeah, police 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:58.840 continue gare Yeah, and I guess, I guess one of 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:01.200 the things that's reported is after police said this was 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:04.960 a transgender woman. They also talked about how Hale had 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:08.400 conducted surveillance and prepared for the attack with detailed maps, 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:13.440 and then also the aforementioned to benifesto. But yes, we're 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:15.039 gonna we're gonna move on to some of the stuff 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:18.600 that we do know using just basic open source research stuff. 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:22.600 So there is a LinkedIn page for someone named Audrey 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:25.880 Hale in the Nashville area. They list a lot of 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:29.359 various like illustration jobs they've had for the past few years, 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:32.440 and they do have a little pronoun marker next to 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:35.640 their name that says he him. Hale appears to have 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:40.520 had a website for their graphic design portfolio called AH Illustrations, 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:44.479 so just their initials AH. They have posts in they're 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:48.159 being tagged from twenty twenty three from twenty twenty two, 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:50.400 so it's been at least up for two years. I 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:53.480 tried to do like um metadata stuff on some of 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:55.640 their artwork. I did not really get much in terms 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:57.640 of what year they were posted, but we may be 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:00.120 able to learn more about that later. The website has 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:04.520 an about page that introduces the person as Audrey Hale, 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:07.799 but it also directs you to a now vanished Instagram 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:13.760 page called at Creative period Aiden. So we're going to 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:15.680 go through some of the rights initial stuff a bit later, 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:18.239 because they were already calling us a transgender shooting before 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:20.280 any information came out at all, as a part of 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:23.960 the Sam Hide joke. Yeah, for reference, Sam Hide is 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:26.200 kind of a right wing comedian who had a show 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:28.880 on Adult Swim For the last several years. It has 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:31.560 been a meme to every time there's a shooting, there's 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:34.640 a specific picture of Sam Hide holding a rifle that 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:37.520 people will post and say, I'm getting this picture that 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:39.960 you know, this was the shooter at whatever. It's been 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:42.800 at Parkland, it's been at El Paso, it's been at Duvaldi. 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:46.080 Every single shooting this happens. And with this shooting, someone 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:50.160 photoshopped some ladies head onto sam Hide and claimed immediately 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:53.480 that it was a transgender person. This also ties into 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:57.520 the Highland Park shooting, where the shooter wore women's clothing 0:07:57.560 --> 0:07:59.360 at some point to try to escape, and the right 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:01.840 contain unusually tries to claim that that makes it a 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:08.040 transgender shooting. Anyway, Please continue, gare yes. So, by going 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:11.000 through their online portfolio dated as far back as twenty 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:14.120 twenty two, I found a self portrait that has a 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:18.000 that has a different social media user name titled at 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:23.880 cree dot tiv Dre. I think Dre is for like Audre, 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:28.680 and this also appears to be an old Instagram handle 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:33.440 before they changed it to at Creative. Aiden Hale's website 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:37.040 also has another self portrait just tagged with the name 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:41.160 Aiden and Aiden Creates. That one appears to be from 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:43.880 maybe slightly after, but it's kind of unclear with how 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:48.040 the website is laid out. So although the Instagram page 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:51.880 for this person appears to be taken down, it's unknown 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:54.160 if they took it down or if Instagram took it down, 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:57.920 but it is gone and there's no archive of it. 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:00.959 It appears that Hale did have other social media accounts 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:05.160 that are still online. Besides the aforementioned LinkedIn, a TikTok 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:08.560 account by the name of I am Underscore Aiden ten 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:12.840 shares a profile picture with Hale's own website, and it 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:16.320 also links to Hale's Instagram page, which is mentioned on 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:21.560 Hale's website. The TikTok was seldom active, but their first 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:25.240 visible post is from March fifteenth, twenty twenty two. There 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:27.800 are two other posts from that month, and all three 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:30.360 of these posts are like about late nineties early two 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:34.480 thousands video game nostalgia. And thanks to TikTok's use her 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:37.280 name embedding feature, we can see that the account used 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:41.720 to be called Audrey Video Game Nerd Underscore ten before 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:46.240 being changed to I am Aiden ten sometime between March 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:52.080 sixteenth and April fifteenth of last year. Hale's last visible 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:55.880 post is just from over a month ago, February ninth, 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:59.880 twenty twenty three. And yeah, just as a note, kind, 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:01.880 I've gone over less of this than you, but I've 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:05.240 I've combed over what's available. I don't notice any of 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:07.800 the normal red flags. There's not even like pictures of 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:11.199 this person posing with firearms. There's not threats. There's one 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:13.719 video where they seem to be mourning a friend or 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:16.559 a relative. But it's a pretty normal, like in memoriam 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:20.920 style video. None of their art strikes me as disturbing 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:24.280 in any way. No, it's at least one red ram 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:27.319 one they have. They have one piece of Shining fan 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:30.160 art that the Right's been using. It sticks out, but 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:32.800 also like the Shining is one of the most popular 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:37.080 movies of all time. Yeah, no, nothing nothing. As someone 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:38.920 who's looked through the social media accounts of a lot 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:44.040 of shooters, this account is relatively normal, like they there's 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:46.760 nothing in here that would be immediately red flags. They 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:48.640 did a lot of like corporate work. I think I 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:51.000 think they did artwork for the city of Denver. Yeah, 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:53.720 it looks like it. They were being commissioned to do 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.040 graphic design for a lot of businesses, a lot of 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:58.880 like local events in Nashville. Um. There's one other thing 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:03.280 from their site that I will mentioned part of their bio. 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:07.200 They have this sentence that says there is a childlike 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:09.520 part of me that loves to go and run around 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:12.280 on the playground, and the Rights using this in like 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:14.400 a like a weird like a groomer way, being like, 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:18.080 oh my god, this this kid wants this adult wants 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:22.440 to go around with two playgrounds and their Childlike this 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:24.400 is this is a completely normal thing to say. This 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:26.360 is like, this is not a red flag. This is 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:30.760 I also enjoy going on the playground. This is not 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:32.720 a red flag either. This is just part of weird 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:36.079 culture war stuff. Yeah. Yeah, I have another thing about 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:37.840 being a kid forever and ever as well. It just 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:42.079 seems that they connected with childhood things and those kind 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:46.120 of things. Yeah, and like psychologically, maybe being kind of 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:48.520 stuck in the past or whatever is a part of 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:51.840 how they describe or justify this in their manifesto. We 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:53.840 just don't know. But the point of the matter is 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:56.640 if you had looked at this person's social media prior, 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:59.600 and this is very different from most shooters, you would 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:01.959 not have thought, oh, this is a person who is 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:04.959 of danger to people. There's there's just not signs in it. 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:09.160 I mean. The one thing that is the kind of 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:12.360 last thing I'll mentioned is the I think the two 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:15.520 other adults that were shot. One was a custodian, There 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:17.319 was a was a I think it was like a 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:21.680 substitute teacher. Um. They were all in their sixties. Um. 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:24.360 It's unclear how long those two other people have been 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:26.240 with the school of the head of the school has 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:29.439 been been there for a while. Um, but I mean 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:34.520 because because it is a preschool through sixth grade school, um, 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:37.199 Hale would not have been at the school relatively recently. 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:39.839 I can try to I'm trying, I'm trying to do 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:42.680 like quick math here to be like if you would 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:45.600 if you be in sixth grade and you're now twenty eight, 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:53.280 seventeen years ago, yeah, eleven years old, right, Americans five? Yeah, yeah, yes, yeah, 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:56.439 So it's it's it's certainly it's it's started in two 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:59.560 thousand and one. So yeah, that's that is that is 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:03.080 that is possible. Yeah. I do want to note a 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:04.840 couple of things before we move on to the right 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:07.680 ring wing reaction. One of them just kind of again 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:10.680 to to sort of boil it down based on what 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:15.440 is available publicly, we know this person seems to have 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:19.679 been born and raised as Audrey. Hale started going by 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:25.040 Aiden at the latest sometime last year. Their LinkedIn shows 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:28.680 them at that point as using he him pronouns, but 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:31.560 still but still with the name Audrey, but still with 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:34.440 the name Audrey. It is actually very much at this 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:39.840 point still unclear how they exact precisely identified what pronouns 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:42.600 they used. We certainly don't know whether or not they 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:44.839 were on any kind of like hormones, not that that 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:46.400 would have an impact on any of this, but we 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:49.920 have very little actual information. The police are saying that 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:54.240 they identify themselves as transgender in the manifesto. At some 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:56.439 point we might learn more as a result of that, 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:59.160 but but it is. It is a lot of what's 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:03.800 being put out as either unclear or you know, wrong 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:05.920 in one way or the other. There's just a lot 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:08.559 of information that is kind of missing about this person. 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:12.000 People are jumping to conclusions on stuff, so we will 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:14.880 probably learn more there later. One more note on this, 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:18.600 The police are the ones that initiated the use of 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:23.520 the term manifesto. Of now, there was no manifesto published 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:25.920 by the shooter. We do not know if this is 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:30.640 a quote unquote manifesto like at all. The police have 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:34.040 claimed that they found writing when they rated this person's house, 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:38.520 So this writing discussing things around their gender or what 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:40.440 they were doing this. This could be anything from like 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:43.760 a suicide note to just like a diary or a journal. 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:46.200 So by using the word manifesto, they're kind of trying 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:49.720 to tie it into that we simply at this point 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:51.720 do not know if this was a manifesto at all, 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:53.640 Like we just that is that is a very loaded 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:57.400 term in this context. I think it's notable that the 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:02.560 shooter did not publish anything. Whereas usually when there's like manifestos, 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:06.680 they are published online, right the shooter, the shooter themselves 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:08.880 will publish it online, and that is kind of part 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:11.920 of their entire attack. That is not the case here. 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:15.080 The shooter did not publish anything about this attack online 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:17.640 that we've or that we've found, or that anyone's found. 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:19.880 So I think that's an important thing to note when 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:23.080 we're talking about the use of the word manifesto here 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:36.840 in terms of like the importance of a manifesto, you know, 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:39.680 speaking of someone who has written professionally about a number 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:43.960 of them. Manifestos are obviously useful, especially when trying to 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:47.560 analyze why someone did something, what their political goal may 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:50.160 have been, if they're indeed there's a political goal, what 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:54.440 their radicalization pathway has been. But a crucial thing is 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:57.640 to never ever take a manifesto purely at face value. 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:04.840 Manifestos are political writings by terrorists, right, That is what 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:09.920 a manifesto is, and they are writings that are kind 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:12.840 of calculated to achieve a goal. And I don't know 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:15.760 what this person put in their manifesto. Their manifesto must 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:20.760 just have been a perfectly accurate summation of their feelings 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:23.720 of why they did this terrible thing. That's possible, we 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:27.000 sit We don't know at this point. But manifestos are 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:30.840 a part of understanding a shooting and what the goal 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:33.800 was of the shooting and what the individual hope to accomplish. 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:36.680 But they cannot and never should be taken at face value. 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:38.720 And that's what a lot of media are going to 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:42.000 do if this every does get public. So please always 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:50.440 show care and skepticism of directly reading from a manifesto, 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:54.320 Like even in the case, you know, there's just a lot, 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:57.160 like in the christ Church manifesto of like bullshit, shit posting, 0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:59.720 jokes and stuff thrown in there with the real stuff. 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:04.359 It's generally possible to us to get to gather and 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:07.760 understand motive from a manifesto, and I am you know, 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:10.720 I will read it if it becomes available, but be 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:15.520 very careful with such things. Um. Yeah, speaking of not 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:18.040 being careful, let's talk about the right wing response to 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:21.240 this um because I think, broadly speaking, it's fair to 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:25.280 characterize it as they are claiming this is part of 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:29.919 a line of terror attacks by transgender people. There's a 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:32.760 lot of folks saying that this is reason to ban 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:38.480 gender affirming care, to ban hormone therapy, to ban trans 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:44.040 people from purchasing firearms. This is a pretty rampant on 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:47.119 the right already. It became very quickly, so I actually 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:48.920 want to go over one thing I just came up 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:53.040 and saw while Gare was talking that I think is 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:57.400 interesting as Candice Owens. Candice Owens is a right wing commentator, 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:03.280 unfortunately quite influential and a sizable platform. I want to 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:06.160 quote from her response. Her initial response was the immediate 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:08.640 response when all the information was out was that there'd 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:11.080 been a shooting at this school. I live in Green Hills, 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:14.120 and I'm positively devastated for the families impacted by this tragedy. 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:16.600 Please suspend your politics and instead do what these families 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:19.600 at this Christian school would want. Pray. That's a perfectly 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:22.639 reasonable response, at least for somebody who believes in prayer. 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:27.760 Within a matter of like an hour or so, it 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:31.760 became clear that or information began to come out that 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:36.480 the shooter was likely transgender, at which point Candace suspended 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:41.119 her statement about not making it politics. She posted shortly after, 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:44.359 transgenderism as a mental illness. Keep your children away from 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:47.280 transgendent individuals and their parents. People that support and encourage 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:49.440 as their monsters and should be kept away from children. 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:54.960 They yelled at Matt Walsh made a statement, why haven't 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:56.640 we be given the name of the mass shooter yet? 0:18:56.680 --> 0:18:59.359 And Candace responded, because they're wiping the socials so they 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:02.440 can make things up about the person. She noted, as 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:04.960 to a post by Matt Walsh being like, the question 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:06.840 is why this culture is producing so many people who 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:08.680 want to carry out attacks like this. Take the guns 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:11.439 and you'll still have a country infested by homicidal sociopaths. 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:14.240 Where they're coming from, what is creating them? Candas responded, 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:15.920 I would start with the fact that we now celebrate 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:18.879 clinical insanity while we admonish normalcy. People are aspiring to 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:21.040 mental illness because they receive attention and off times are 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:26.080 awarded for perversity. She is essentially taking the stance of like, 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:29.320 we have to blame this on the fact that this 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:33.040 person was transgender, and being transgender is a mental illness. Right. 0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:35.879 That's the stance Canvas is taking. That's the stance a 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:38.520 lot of folks are taking. One of the most widely 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:40.879 shared posts from a right winger on this was by 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:48.560 a guy named DC Underscore Draino notes himself as a husband, patriot, lawyer, constitutionalist, 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:52.200 and anti woke. He has six hundred eighty six thousand 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:55.200 followers on Twitter. He has been relentless in posting about 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:57.879 this as an act of transgender terror. He has spread 0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:00.680 at some of the information that Garrison added on this 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:06.359 podcast about this person's social media posts, and his posts 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:07.919 are some of the most widely read and like that 0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:10.919 I've seen. One of them reads unconfirmed reports identify the 0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:14.120 Nashville shooter as Audrey Hale, a biological female that identifies 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:17.040 as he him on their LinkedIn authorities believe the transgender 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:21.159 shooter previously attended the Christian school. He then follows, we 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:23.080 will not let this story be swept under the rug. 0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:26.360 Trans terrorism must be confronted head on and stopped. Tennessee 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:29.480 just passed laws restricting sextualized drag shows for children, in 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:32.480 banning the genital mutilation of children was today's mass shooting 0:20:32.480 --> 0:20:34.960 at a Christian school by a transgender killer and act 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:38.119 of domestic terror? And when will we start talking about 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:41.399 transgender mass murders targeting innocent school children in our schools? 0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:44.280 Enough as enough? And in this they posted a link 0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:47.960 to a reader's story about a shooting from last year. 0:20:48.119 --> 0:20:51.440 I think it was in Colorado in Denver. This was 0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:54.320 a shooting where two people, one of whom was transgender, 0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:59.600 walked into a school in Denver and shot at several 0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:02.919 class mates, killing one. They claimed it was revenged on 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:08.800 classmates over bullying. The McKinney, the transgender shooter, has been 0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:12.119 sentenced recently, so it's been in the news. This is 0:21:12.160 --> 0:21:15.960 being built as like a transgender terrorist attack because spoiler, 0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:19.520 there's very few cases of trans people carrying out acts 0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:21.600 of violence, so they're kind of grabbing what they can 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:23.719 in order to try and make an argument that this 0:21:23.800 --> 0:21:28.000 is part of a trend. In the absence of any 0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:33.480 kind of manifesto, people are claiming that transidentity motivated the killings. 0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:36.439 The police seem to have helped to jump start this. 0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:39.280 All right, So first off, we're going to play before 0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:41.440 we continue. We're going to play a clip of the 0:21:41.560 --> 0:21:45.560 police press conference where the police chief of Nashville talks 0:21:45.680 --> 0:21:49.080 about what has happened and talks about the information that 0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:52.679 they have about the shooter based on the apparently the 0:21:52.720 --> 0:21:55.040 manifesto that they have in the maps that they have. 0:21:55.520 --> 0:21:59.000 So we're going to play that now. Our investigations tell 0:21:59.080 --> 0:22:02.000 us that she was a former student at the school. 0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:05.679 I don't know what grades she's attended on grades, but 0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:09.080 we do firmly believe she was a student there. She 0:22:12.240 --> 0:22:20.640 does identify as transient. Yes, history, no history at all, 0:22:21.920 --> 0:22:24.600 and no motive. Is disappointed to anything discovered in the 0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:28.760 apartment or house. No, we have a manifesto. We have 0:22:28.840 --> 0:22:33.080 some writings that we're going over that pertain to this day, 0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:36.960 the actual incident. We have a map drawn out of 0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:40.280 how this was all going to take place. Uh, there's 0:22:40.440 --> 0:22:43.760 right now a theory of that's that we may be 0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:46.399 able to talk about later, but it's not confirmed, and 0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:48.640 so we'll we'll put that out as soon as we can. 0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:52.080