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Speaker 1: Hello friends. It is the Lake Kick Extra mail Bag edition.

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Speaker 1: Once a week, we try and bring you the best

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Speaker 1: possible college football content that you could ever hope to

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Speaker 1: consume in January or any other time of year. I

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Speaker 1: Nashville today. I am in my childhood bedroom down in Georgia,

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Speaker 1: come to you. Nonetheless, I have got about a million

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Speaker 1: and one questions that you have asked. I'm diving right in.

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Speaker 1: It that's all. Let's just start scroll in here. This morning,

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Speaker 1: David said, ideally, what would your twelve team playoff inclusion

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Speaker 1: criteria be? From Grand Rapids, Michigan. David, I wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: any criteria other than you better be in the top twelve.

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Speaker 1: Now you know that I would have a twelve team

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Speaker 1: Some of you think I wouldn't expand I don't have

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Speaker 1: a problem with expanding the six I don't have a problem. Eh.

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Speaker 1: I got a little problem past that, but I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have a problem with a sixteen playoff, But twelve teams

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Speaker 1: a little bit too much for me. But nevertheless, if

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Speaker 1: you told me I had to have twelve, David, I

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Speaker 1: would just say, okay, take the top twelve, and then

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Speaker 1: I would start hearing these voices normally in the back

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Speaker 1: of the rooms. Yeah but yeah, but well yeah, but

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Speaker 1: there's no yeah, but there's no yeah. But if you

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Speaker 1: want to argue for auto bids for conference champs, here's

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Speaker 1: my retort. Do you really think there's going to be

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Speaker 1: a world where a legitimate conference champ isn't ranked in

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Speaker 1: the top twelve. Think about what you're arguing there. You're

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Speaker 1: arguing for autobid inclusion when you and I both know

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Speaker 1: at any point in the modern era, the playoff era,

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Speaker 1: any conference champ worth its salt has been in the

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Speaker 1: top twelve. Most of the time, they've been in the

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Speaker 1: top eight or the top six, but easily the top twelve.

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Speaker 1: If there's a conference champ that's outside the top twelve,

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Speaker 1: you've had such a garbage finale to your conference slate

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Speaker 1: that whatever your conference produced has no business in the playoff.

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Speaker 1: And not even to mention, by the way, I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's not even to mention this whole autobid thing where

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Speaker 1: two G five teams may be in Josh, what are

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Speaker 1: you having as G Five's nothing? I love the G five.

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Speaker 1: I wish the G five could have its own playoff.

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Speaker 1: But since we have people who have zero clue what's

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Speaker 1: going on with their hands on the college football wheel,

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Speaker 1: they've insisted on shoehorning one hundred and thirty three teams

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Speaker 1: I have to pretend that the AAC plays the same

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Speaker 1: caliber of football as the Big Ten and therefore their

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Speaker 1: conference champ should be treated the same as the Big

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Speaker 1: Ten conference champ. Why we'll because in the NFL, every

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Speaker 1: division winner gets a guaranteed playoff spot. That's the That's

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Speaker 1: the kind of person we're dealing with here. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: maybe you feel that way. It's not a right or

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Speaker 1: wrong thing, an opinion thing. I do think my opinion

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Speaker 1: just kind of is what it is. I got a

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Speaker 1: lot of questions about this. Let's go with Jr. From Brazil, Indiana,

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Speaker 1: perhaps Brazil, he said, Could Ohio State have done better

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Speaker 1: than Bill O'Brien. So if you miss this story, Ryan

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Speaker 1: Day decided to hire Bill O'Brien as the offensive coordinator. Now,

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Speaker 1: the reporting around that was he's hiring him and turning

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Speaker 1: over play calling to Bill O'Brien. I was not crazy

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Speaker 1: about this move. And Bill O'Brien is a guy who

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Speaker 1: has gotten repeated opportunities from the biggest names in the business,

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban and Ryan Day being the previous two at

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Speaker 1: the college level that have given Bill O'Brien full reign

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Speaker 1: of their offense. Now, I am not stupid enough to

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Speaker 1: I can be curious, but still kind of seed the

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Speaker 1: possibility that they know something I don't. But you're asking

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Speaker 1: And the other thing is, when you look back at

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Speaker 1: his time at Alabama, you gotta look past numbers. Okay,

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Speaker 1: there's the detractor. The detractor says, Wow, Bill O'Brien had

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Speaker 1: average play broke down. It feels like every time, multiple

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Speaker 1: rest of the play consists of Bryce Young improvising in

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Speaker 1: it the Bill O'Brien offense. So yes, he'll have great

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Speaker 1: and beyond anything we've seen here so far. Next up

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Speaker 1: is Brian. This kind of goes back. I meant to

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Speaker 1: sound a little wonky. Brian almost offers a continuation of

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Speaker 1: the first question. He said, with that twelve team playoff,

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Speaker 1: it opens the door for a G five team to

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Speaker 1: They'll never win one. They will seldom advance past the

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Speaker 1: you're supposed to never say never. I'm confidently telling you

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Speaker 1: like I would bet tons of money on the fact

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Speaker 1: that or the idea that G five team will never

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Speaker 1: win the national championship in this format. It's crazy, But

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Speaker 1: the best shot they had was in the old format,

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Speaker 1: But the Cincinnati team a couple of years ago, they

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Speaker 1: an infinitely tougher road. Like yes, expanding to twelve does

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Speaker 1: but it also means you'll have more extremely talented rosters

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Speaker 1: an LSU as well, and you cannot continue to outscheme

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Speaker 1: philosophy is totally detached. Like my philosophy is, it's insane

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Speaker 1: that would be like Major League Baseball existing as it

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Speaker 1: the most memorable interview you've done since you started? Very

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Speaker 1: ironic you ask this because I was just talking to

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Speaker 1: someone about it last night. So I had Matthew McConaughey

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Speaker 1: McConaughey before, had no we were spoken to him before

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Speaker 1: So if it's going to be Wednesday eleven am, you'll

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Speaker 1: program had been. Texas A and M's program football program

428
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: clearly has not been a top five program, not a

429
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: top ten program historically or recently. Texas A and M

430
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 1: is vastly underachieved for a long time relative to what

431
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 1: they're capable of. But when we're defining job, I made

432
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,439
Speaker 1: it very clear what I need to define you as

433
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 1: an elite job is I need number one big salary pool.

434
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: I've got to be able to pay coaches top figure.

435
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,719
Speaker 1: I myself have to be paid top money. There, I

436
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 1: have to have geographically access to the top talent in

437
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 1: the country, and it's right around me. I'm in East Texas.

438
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 1: I've got immediate access to the South. I've got that

439
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 1: taken care of. I've got to have the resources, both

440
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 1: financially and infrastructure to attract them. And amm's got world

441
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: class facilities and they have got a world class wallet.

442
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: And so if I've got that and I've got full

443
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 1: administrative support. That's what I need to call myself an

444
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: elite job, because if I'm the right coach, I'm gonna

445
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: go there, harness those resources, and I'm gonna win big.

446
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 1: The counter to that is, well, Josh, if those resources

447
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 1: have been there all this time, how come none of

448
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 1: those coaches have won? Well, good question. Two reasons. Number One,

449
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: they haven't been there all this time. A ANDM has

450
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: only been what A and M is now for about

451
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: a decade. Johnny Manziel had a ton to do with that.

452
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel sort of kicked down this dam that was

453
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: being withheld, and it's mainly money that was being withheld,

454
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, once Johnny Manzel showed them

455
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: what was possible, everybody opened up their wallet and they

456
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: overhauled everything. I've listened to Manziel himself talked about how

457
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: that place doesn't look anything like it looked when he

458
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: first got there. So that's the first thing. A and

459
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: M's only been what they are now for about a decade.

460
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,199
Speaker 1: Number two, they haven't hired the right coach. That's the

461
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 1: long and short of it. Kevin Somelan was not that guy.

462
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: Turn Jimbo Fisher was not that guy. That's it. That's all.

463
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: So now Mike Elko gets his shot. I think highly

464
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: of Mike Elko, but independent of what I think about him,

465
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 1: if he's not the guy, I'll think the same thing

466
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: about A and M again, because here's what I always

467
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 1: think about. What would Kirby Smart do at A and M.

468
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: The answer is he would crush it at A and M.

469
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 1: He would do everything he's doing at Georgia. He would

470
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 1: do it at Texas A and M. What would Kirby

471
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: Smart do it? Perdue? Kirby Smart would not win titles

472
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 1: at Purdue. That means the determining factor in that equation

473
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: is not Kirby Smart. The determining factor is what you

474
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: inherit or how good a job it is. Texas A

475
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: and M is an elite job, but unlike Georgia, they

476
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: have not hired an elite candidate to put in the

477
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 1: driver's seat. That's it. Once they do, or if they

478
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 1: just did with Mike Elko, which time we'll tell on,

479
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: then they will win big. But the question was not

480
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: about A and M. It was about Alabama. I just

481
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: got sidetracked there. I think Alabama is another top five job.

482
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: There is going to be pushed back on that. That

483
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 1: would suggest no, Obama's not a top five job. Sabin

484
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: just made it what it is today. So I know

485
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: what you're implying there, but I'm actually gonna disagree while

486
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: agreeing with you. So let's say, for the sake of

487
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: argument that you're right, which you're not when you say that,

488
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: but I'm going to seed to your argument. Let's just

489
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 1: say you're right. Let's say Alabama had been a total

490
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: poverty program before Saban got there, and let's say that

491
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: Nick Saban literally built it from scratch. He did to

492
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: Alabama what Bobby Bowden did to Florida State, Like they

493
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: weren't even on the radar before then, and then he

494
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: made them what they are over time. All right, let's

495
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: say that's true, which I don't think it is. Let's

496
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: say it's true, all right. So Sabin doesn't stay there

497
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: five years. He stayed there seventeen years, and he just

498
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 1: walked out the door. And this is a very important

499
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 1: thing to note. He walked out the door either still

500
00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: at his peak or just past his peak. He won

501
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: a national title in the last three years. He just

502
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: won the sec championship this year. He was in overtime

503
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: of a semi final game with a trip to the

504
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 1: national title on the line this year. So that's that's

505
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: not staying past your prime. That's being right there, either

506
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 1: at the apex or just past the apex. And the

507
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: reason that's important is because if you stay well past

508
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: your prime, think Paterno at Penn State, think Bowden at

509
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 1: Florida State, it can erode the caliber of the program,

510
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: which can impact how good the job is. Saban did

511
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: the opposite. He walked out on top, and that means

512
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: the Bama program is still elite as it was when

513
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: he was there over any length of time. Well, here's

514
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 1: why that's important. Now we're trying to define how good

515
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 1: the job is. So even if it used to be poverty,

516
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: what did we say we need to make an elite job?

517
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: What do we need? We need everyone all in administratively,

518
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: they clearly are at Alabama. They don't ever say no

519
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: to anything. We need really really good facilities. They've got it.

520
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: It's insane there. I've been there a number of times

521
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 1: this past year. They need a massive salary pool to

522
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: hire not only assistants, but to hire personnel of all

523
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: types they've got that. I doubt Kaitlyn de Boro will

524
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 1: be told to know on anything. I mean, Washington nearly

525
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: offered him ten million a year and he still turned

526
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 1: it down to go to Alabama. I need access geographically

527
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: to recruiting hot beds. I need to be able to

528
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: get the talent they've got that. Here's the one thing

529
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: that's being disagreed on right now, and that is how

530
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: big a player can Alabama be in NIL. I think

531
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: they can be as big a player as they want

532
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: to be. The misconception is because they didn't spend money

533
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: under Saban that they just can't spend money. I happen

534
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: to believe, and I've got this on pretty good authority.

535
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: They didn't spend the money because they knew they didn't

536
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: need to spend the money, because players would go and

537
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: play for Nick Saban for pennies on the dollar of

538
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: what it would take to get them to come play

539
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: for your team, because that's what it meant to go

540
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: play for Nick Saban. But that doesn't mean they didn't

541
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: have the money, just means they didn't need the money. Now,

542
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: if they see they need the money, they'll step up

543
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: like they're nil caffers I think will double very very

544
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: quickly at Alabama if they need to. So if we've

545
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: got all those boxes checked, that, in my opinion, it

546
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: takes to form an elite job. It doesn't really matter

547
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: whether they came along in the past ten years or

548
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: the past one hundred years. If they're present today, that

549
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: makes it an elite job. And I think Kaylen de

550
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: Boor knew that, and that's why I also talk to

551
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: you at great length right after Saban retired about how

552
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: misguided this notion was that nobody wants to follow a legend.

553
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: Plenty of people would have no problem following a legend. Guys,

554
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: competitors just think differently than that. Kaylin de Boer did

555
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: not look at Alabama and say, ooh am, I following

556
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: in the footsteps of Nick Saban, how will I ever

557
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: measure up? Kaylin de Boor looked at Alabama and had

558
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: a a checklist of about five or six things that

559
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: he needed checked, and they all got checked, and they're

560
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: probably close to what I just asked about, and they

561
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: got checked. And at that point he said, I don't

562
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: care who I'm following if I'm getting what I think

563
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: I need to win It's an elite job, and I'm

564
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: gonna go there and I'm gonna win, just like the

565
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: previous guy did. Let's move it along. Joey is up next.

566
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: Joey asked, why is it the twenty four to seven

567
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: sports always finds ways to move players that commit to

568
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: Tennessee football down in the rankings. The answer is, they don't.

569
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: They don't do this. They don't do this for any team.

570
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: I know a lot of teams allege this, well, a

571
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: lot of fans allege this. I have even been privy

572
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: to hearing some coaches that complained about this. I can

573
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: tell you this, it won't change anyone's mind. So I'm

574
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: not gonna waste a lot of time on this. I've

575
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,479
Speaker 1: told you before, I used to think this, before I

576
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,479
Speaker 1: worked here, I used to think this. I thought there

577
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: were grudges and bias ses. I thought they were trying

578
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: to prop certain teams up. And then I got behind

579
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: the curtain and I realized, Wow, it's not nearly as

580
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: dramatic and deceitful as I thought it would be. They

581
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,479
Speaker 1: don't do that. What I found is the same thing

582
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: I'm going to say to you. Make sure you chart

583
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: the movement of every player in every one of your classes.

584
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: And if you continue to come out year after year

585
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: with twenty of your twenty five players being bumped down

586
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: after they commit to you, if that continues, cycle over cycle,

587
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: then come to me because you've got somewhat of an argument.

588
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: But you'll find it doesn't happen like that. What you'll

589
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: do is you'll go back and look over your chart

590
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: and you'll find all right roughly panned out fifty to fifty,

591
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: you know, fifty five to forty five either way. Oh,

592
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: it's just that I don't remember the guys that got

593
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: bumped up because those don't fit my argument. And I

594
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: want to believe someone's out to get me, and therefore, uh,

595
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: maybe my perception was a little bit detached from reality.

596
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna humbly suggest. And like I said,

597
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: I know it won't change anyone's mind. But there is

598
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: no conspiracy internally here. And you know that's true coming

599
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: from me, because if there was an internal conspiracy, do

600
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: you know how much pleasure I would take in kicking

601
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: over that ant bed and exposing the truth and dragging

602
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: management for conducting a corrupt organization. I would do that

603
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: in a heartbeat. Those of you who know me know

604
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: I would do that in the heartbeat. So I am

605
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: the watchdog. I'm on the inside. I'm down here in

606
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: the bearricage looking out for you. I just regret to

607
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: inform you, No, that's not happening with Tennessee. I answered

608
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: that about Florida State the other day. That's not happening

609
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: with Florida State either. Again, there are plenty of other

610
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: things that are wrong in this world, but that doesn't

611
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: happen to be one of them at the present time.

612
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: Eden from Comington, Louisiana, he said, you're gonna be storm

613
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: chasing this season. Looks like it could be an active one.

614
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: You already know the answer to that, my friend. Yes,

615
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: I will be storm chasing this season. If we have

616
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: to do shows on the road, I will be storm chasing.

617
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: Last year we got to several states, Oklahoma, Upper Midwest, Iowa.

618
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: Illinois was where we saw the first tornado of the season. Arkansas,

619
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: deadly tornadoes. Actually we intercepted in Arkansas. Mississippi always a

620
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: hot bed, Rolling Fork Mississippi. That place still has not

621
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: recovered from a high end EA four that hit down there.

622
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: You know what, I've never been able to do, though.

623
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: I've never gotten up to the Dakota's or Minnesota to chase,

624
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: nor have I ever chased in Nebraska, which is crazy

625
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: considering we've been everywhere else. So yeah, I still got

626
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: some some bucket list states to check off this year.

627
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure that is going to happen. How about Coach

628
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: Smith from Cuthbert, Georgia, Coach, you may be surprised to

629
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: know that I have spent a lot of time in Cuthbert, Georgia.

630
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: Back in the day, we used to do a thing

631
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: where the church I went to in Columbus, we sent

632
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: a preacher down to down to Cuthbert. Rather every Sunday morning,

633
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: we rotated because they didn't have a permanent minister down there.

634
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: So my dad was one of the three or four

635
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: who would rotate in and out down in Cuthbert. So

636
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: about once a month I'd be attending services down there

637
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: in Cuthbert, Georgia. So anyway, that's not what coach asked.

638
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: He asked, does my Miami have to make the playoff

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Speaker 1: You know what? I think the answer may be, yes.

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Speaker 1: There there is a world where they don't make the playoff.

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Speaker 1: But they're improved, you know, because they just went from

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Speaker 1: five to seven to seven and five. So technically, coach,

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Speaker 1: if they go eight and four, or even if they

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Speaker 1: go nine to three, that's an improved season, that's an

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Speaker 1: improved month. But if they do fall short of the

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Speaker 1: playoff when they just got cam Ward at quarterback in

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Speaker 1: a twelve team playoff era and a world where Clemson

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Speaker 1: still maybe down or maybe off the top run of

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Speaker 1: the ladder, and Miami will always think that they can

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Speaker 1: beat Florida State because they don't think the talent gap

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Speaker 1: is that wide between the two, which is not by

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Speaker 1: the way, the team at Florida State has been better,

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Speaker 1: but the overall talent roster there may not be a

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Speaker 1: massive gap between the two. I think that if they

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Speaker 1: don't make the playoff yet, they will view it as

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Speaker 1: a failure. Year three was the one they were all

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Speaker 1: circling last year when I was down there, it was

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. We think will be improved. We hope

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Speaker 1: we can do some things, and they did, but it

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Speaker 1: was an up and down season with a little more

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Speaker 1: down than up. Twenty twenty four is the one they circle,

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Speaker 1: and they got good reason to circle it. And they

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Speaker 1: didn't even know that cam Ward was going to be

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Speaker 1: Washington State. I think that, yeah, if they don't make it,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's an unfair thing to say that

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Speaker 1: they would view the season as a failure. Let's go

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Speaker 1: with Rob from Columbus, Ohio. He said, Sunday, you addressed

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Speaker 1: the hilariously bad playoff schedule for next season, But how

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Speaker 1: would you change it? If the NFL wants to have

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Speaker 1: games on Saturday, the NCAA likely cannot compete with them

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Speaker 1: for a Saturday night National championship because of viewership. It's

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Speaker 1: a bad schedule, but their hands might be tied. Rob,

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Speaker 1: You're right. In the current format, their hands are tied.

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Speaker 1: That's why they have it on a Monday night. When

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Speaker 1: a Saturday night National Championship but the NFL is in

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Speaker 1: the wave, why have we not cut them in on

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Speaker 1: the NFL in as a business partner to get them

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Speaker 1: to be more cooperative to maybe taking that Saturday and

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Speaker 1: afternoon NFL Playoff game, And then whoever has the mid

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Speaker 1: afternoon NFL playoff game is also the network that has

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Speaker 1: college football's national title game that night. And so not

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Speaker 1: only do you have a Saturday night national championship game,

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Speaker 1: you've got a massive NFL playoff game serving as a

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Speaker 1: lead in to it. As we call it in the business,

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Speaker 1: the lead in is just whatever comes on before you.

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Speaker 1: And if you've got the most precious commodity in all

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Speaker 1: the lead in for your national championship game on its

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Speaker 1: native night Saturday instead of Monday, you don't think that

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Speaker 1: would be worth the trade off with the NFL and

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Speaker 1: cutting them into that revenue. Of course it would be,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think that anyone has ever thought of

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Speaker 1: So no, Rob, we can't make it happen under the

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Speaker 1: current format. That just deincentivizes keeping the current format. If

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Speaker 1: duel odds be on Jesse versus Colin in a boxing match?

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Speaker 1: Colin would be a minus two thousand favorite. During COVID,

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Speaker 1: And Colin can lift too. In fact, he's put on

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Speaker 1: I have seen him pull a hamstring in men's league softball,

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Speaker 1: but boxing would not be one of them. Landon from Houston,

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Speaker 1: Texas up next, He said, will Texas be the new

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Speaker 1: recruiting the best out of the teams that are going

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Speaker 1: on Texas. It just means there's a big difference between

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Speaker 1: Texas will be one of the top teams in the field.

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Speaker 1: But I mean you said top dog, which is ironic

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Speaker 1: a little bit better clip than Texas is not much better,

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Speaker 1: but at a little bit better clip. So what Texas

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Speaker 1: in and they're going to prove naysayers I guess wrong

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Speaker 1: on both sides. Anyone who thinks Texas is about to

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Speaker 1: They're going to be right up there where not very

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Speaker 1: many teams can hang out annually. I do believe that

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Speaker 1: they'll give themselves a shot every year. I am really

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Speaker 1: kind of curious to see what the adjustment period is

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Speaker 1: SEC adjust because that's one more tough game in that grind.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of fun, exciting times ahead for the

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