WEBVTT - Dream into Reality 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:06.880 And Charlottagne, the guy my dad asked up. The breakfast 0:00:06.880 --> 0:00:14.920 club is R. I'm not kay yookay, I love coming here. 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:16.520 I'm never not gonna come here. You guys are good 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:18.079 to me and lieutenam. I was gonna good deal for 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:20.000 a lot of people in hip hop generation. The breakfast 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:22.600 club is where people get the information on the topics, 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:25.119 on the artists and everything like that. In that aspect, 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:27.840 radio is still important. The breakfast club for my name, 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:42.599 come up respected, Good morning Usa yo yo yo yo 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:44.159 yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:45.800 yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:47.640 yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:50.640 yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo. Angeline is 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:52.800 out out because we out. But she's out out. We 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:55.760 ain't really here. This is um a recording. You know. 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:57.920 It's Martin Luther King JUNR. Then he had a dream 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:00.680 that we stay our ass homes this morning on his day. 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:03.080 That is right, So I know, y'all macka y'all Like damn, 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:06.080 y'all just took three weeks off for the holiday, but 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:09.200 now y'all on a vacation again. I'm just doing what 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:12.360 the Good Lord says we should do and corporate America 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:14.920 using our holiday day banks are closed, so we close. 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:19.360 That's right. But today, so if you missed it, Barack Obama, 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:21.399 if you didn't see that interview or little hear that interview, 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:23.080 we're gonna get that back on for you this morning. 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:27.560 Barack Obama actually is the epitome of what Martin Luther 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:30.760 King Junior's dream would have been. Correct. Martin Luther King 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:33.160 Junior wanted us to live in a society where people 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:35.760 would judged by the content of their character, not the 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:37.800 color of their skin. We're still not there yet, but 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:41.319 in fact, we have a black president, you know by 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:44.759 racial president who definitely presents his black We had that. 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:47.200 That's the epitome in Martin VI. King Junior's dream, correct, 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:49.840 And now we got a black Oh my god, we 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:52.559 gotta play Kamala Harris this morning too. Oh yeah. We've 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:56.280 interviewed Kamala Harris three times, right, interviewed or way before 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:58.920 she even ran for president. And now she is the 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:02.200 Madam Vice president, She's the MVP. So wild. Those are 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:05.200 two people who are the epitome of what doctor Martin 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:07.720 lat Street Jor was talking about in his dream. So 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:09.880 that's right. So this morning, we're gonna get on our 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:12.600 interview with Kamala Harris. Which one, Now we had three, 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:15.000 I'm gonna tell you what my honestly, my favorite one 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:17.360 was not the second one was the one that went 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:19.760 super viral with you know, she talked about, you know, 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:21.840 the two pocket everybody trying to take it out of contact. 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:24.320 My favorite one was the first one when she came 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:26.480 when she wasn't even running for president, when she was 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:29.160 just sendative of California. That was my favorite one. Okay, 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:30.880 So we'll get that one on. And what's your favorite 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:34.640 Barack Obama interview? The one we did in November or 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:37.080 whatever do whatever month that was of last year, the 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:38.840 one and the only one we did. So we'll get 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:41.239 both those on this morning. So stay with us this morning. 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:43.480 The Happy morning, Look the King day is the breakfast 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:53.840 club com wake up, wake up, your time to get 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:57.400 it off your chest? Was her man Or Blass. We 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:59.680 want to hear from you on a breakfast club. Hello 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:03.600 this Jeremy, Hey, Jeremy, get it off his chess? Hey? 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:09.000 What's going on? Eddy? Charlomne Yo? This is crazy because 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:12.560 I never get through um. I just want to shout out, 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:16.919 you know, I'm Biden and Kamalason winning. I want to 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:19.120 shout out my roommate Eddie, and I just want to 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:21.799 tell everyone to have a nice day. Um And I 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:25.680 got your book, Charlomaine. I got the audio version of 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:29.480 Black Privilege, and then I have than copying the other 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:33.000 one man, um and I hope you guys all have 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:36.880 a nice step. You shout after your roommate Eddie too. 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:40.840 Man Oh, he's gonna love that. Yall in college together? 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:45.440 Nah we um were I'm twenty eight, he's twenty nine. 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:51.920 I'm an accountant. He's an anti salesman. Okay, okay, got 0:03:51.960 --> 0:04:01.560 his roommates. Roommate rocket place, not feel love, bro, I'm 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:04.160 just asking questions. That's all he was trying to. He 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:06.320 would trying to buck us. That's the reason why you 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:11.360 shot scenario and I was asking questions. I was just 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:18.120 asking question Spicy, I got shot out to Eddie. Damn Sam, 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:20.280 I say, what was happening? All right? Bro? He never 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:22.560 wants to get through again. I know right. This guy 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:28.960 got fantasies over there, y'all love Hello? Who's this chell? Hey? Rochelle, 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:31.160 get it off your chest. I just want to shut 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:35.080 up my amazing. Boy. His name is his name, Rochelle, 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:40.919 name Toddy Todd. Good morning. That was nice to you, Rochelle. 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:43.239 What did he do that? What did he do yesterday 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:45.280 that made you feel that way? I'm gonna shot him 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:46.400 out in the morning on the reader. He had to 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:49.640 do something well. Every day. He always makes sure that 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:52.680 I have breakfast and you make sure I have lunch. 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:59.800 We worked together, see a long way. I'm telling you, man, 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:04.040 either Ruth all my brothers give you a woman some 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:05.840 pop tarts in the morning, some lunch of boots for 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:08.720 lunch and it'll go a long way. What are you 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:10.520 gonna What are you gonna do for him? To show 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:16.440 how thankful you are? On pocket? Every morning? Coffee, yeah, amazing. 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:20.360 Every morning he gets a fresh cup of coffee. Amazing. 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:22.560 See it's the little things, man, Shut up. I mean 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:25.280 that's it. Yeah. She appreciates it. He appreciates it. They 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:29.280 love each other. Oh, yes, of course, all right, well 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:32.240 you have a good morning. Hello. Who's this? You know? 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:37.760 What's way? South Carolina staff crew? To get it off 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:41.479 your chest. I just came around to take whatever dollar, 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:42.880 man I want to blesh. I I wanted going to 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:45.560 quit my freestyle repeat the best time with y'all. Oh, 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:48.320 that's where your brother from South Carolina always shut this down. 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:52.560 But go ahead, the head brother, go ahead. I liked 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:54.600 it the same way. Sometimes I feel like I would 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:56.080 go up to the same day trying to make a 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:57.680 giving man. I'm trying to make it out. I'm trying 0:05:57.680 --> 0:05:59.359 to make sure that my favorite brew so we stitch 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:01.240 and that. So every day I whustle, y'all, I play 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:03.320 the guard Daly watching me in the streets, and somebody 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:06.480 would try to play man watch everybody. So I keep 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:11.160 you gotta down. You gotta slow that down, my South 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:14.039 Carolina bredren, you're going too fast, like what you're gonna? 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:19.239 What's up? Wrapping like your life depends on it. Him, drum, 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:22.760 that's disrespectful. Dry I was, drum, drum, that's disrespectful. Don't 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:25.560 hang up on my South Carolina back. It is all 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:29.320 him now, no Envies back and it's all him. Wow 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:34.360 damn he was like Envies back and it's all him. Wow. 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:41.800 Goodn't damn Jesus Christ, Hello, who's this? Hey? How's it going? Then? 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:46.919 Though the warring? Yes, sir, I was going. I got 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:49.800 a quick question for Charlot Man man, Yes, sir, I 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:52.040 ask you a question. I don't know if somebody ever 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:55.160 asked you this, but who's your top three donkeys of 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:59.119 all the time? And when you're considered consider giving donkey 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:01.800 a donkey holiday? Oh yeah, I mean at the end 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:03.840 of the year we do a top five donkeys of 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:05.360 the year. I don't I'm gonna be honest with you. 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:08.480 Top donkeys of all time? Donald Trump is definitely in 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:10.760 the top three. I mean I've given it to him 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:14.360 more than anybody. And I'm gonna always put myself in 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:16.160 the top three because I always say, you know, when 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:17.920 you give people the credit, you gotta give everybody to 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:21.080 credit they deserve for being stupid, including yourself. I don't 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:24.000 know who the third one would be, though, sounds first. 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:26.480 Sound y'all want to clue Brown from the Breakfast Club. 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.360 All right, we'll go get it off your chests eight 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:32.440 hundred five eight five one on five one. If you 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:34.280 need to vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:43.000 Good morning, the Breakfast Club. It is your time to 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:45.200 get it off your chests, whether you're mad or blast. 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:47.360 So you better have the same in We want to 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:50.440 hear from you on the Breakfast club. Hello, who's this? 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:53.840 What's up? Broke? Get it off your chests? Yeah? What 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:55.440 I had to get out on my chests. Man. I 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:57.400 feel like a lot of people like see, I'm back 0:07:57.480 --> 0:07:59.640 waiting for the government to do things in stet up. 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.600 Realize what we can do ourselves, Like I ain't had 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:07.000 nothing a couple of years ago, provot the pandemic doingandic 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:09.920 it won't really an issue with me. You know, I 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:12.400 started driving trucks for a company. They bought a truck 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:16.000 off of Facebook. I'm own an operator. I'm did fourteen 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:18.720 dollars in a week. It's so much so people can 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:20.960 do out here, you know better they stelf because I'm 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:23.640 trying to break a generational curse. Wealth families are growing 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:27.200 up in and apartments that are owned and homes because 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:30.880 the phone broke up. But I agree with him, you 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:33.000 know what I mean. I mean, we definitely should push 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:35.520 our government and push our you know, national and local 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:37.280 government to do things for us. But we definitely got 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:40.000 to do for ourselves too. Word to the Honorable Alijah Muhammad, 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:42.319 what he said. What he said is also right. I 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:44.120 know a lot of people want to be rappers. They 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:48.000 want to be uh DJs. They want to be producers, 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:51.160 they want to be athletes, they want to get only fans. 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:53.679 There's a lot of other businesses that people can do, 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:57.160 and driving trucks is a major business. They make a 0:08:57.280 --> 0:08:59.839 lot of money. So really really look into it, because 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:02.240 you think about it, one thing that didn't stop on 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:05.560 that road was those trucks. Whether they were delivering food, 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:09.000 whether they were delivering toilet paper and paper towels. Those 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.920 roads stay full with those trucks. So people still had 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:14.040 those jobs with them trucks. Yeah, and that's why I 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:16.079 always tell brothers, man, you go out there and learn 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:18.040 a trade, you know what I mean, Because there's certain 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:20.680 things that just never ever ever gonna stop. You're gonna 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:22.840 always need an electrician, You're gonna always need a plumber, 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:25.120 you know what I mean. And those people, those brothers 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:28.400 make good money. Let's since just make good money. Absolutely. Hello, 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:31.440 what was this? You know? What's up? Envious? Mellow? How 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:36.800 y'all feelings? Mellow was popping? What's going on? Y'all? Mellow? 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:39.560 Your phone is travel phone. It's gabbage. Your phone has 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:41.559 been garbage for at least seven of the ten years 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:44.840 that we've been here on the breakfast club. Hello, Gabbage, 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:50.800 good morning, good morning, just happening, king. It was good, 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:52.599 It was good. I was going to take a gratulations 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:57.000 to you guys. Ten years Sean came here. Thank you brother. 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:02.160 One of my favorite moments was the Ray J call Classic. 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:05.559 That was a classic call. Yeah, before our Heart Radio, 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:07.800 you get to get an app on our phall just 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:10.640 be able to hear you. Gott You're a liar. You're 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:13.280 a liar. You've always been a liar. You've always been 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:16.199 iHeart Radio, sir. I guess he means that app. Day 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:18.280 one we had the IR radio app. First day on 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:20.280 the air, Yes, first day on the air, we had 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:23.800 the iHeart Radio app. You're a liar, you always be 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:27.760 a liar. Wasn't a free Yes it was. I's always 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:30.839 been free. It's always been three three Now tell you 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:36.679 it was a phone. Only a black person will tell 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:38.599 you what's going on in your house. I'm telling you 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:42.120 I know what goes on in your house. From day one. 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:45.320 The iHeartRadio app has been free from day one. When 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:49.800 we started December six, twenty ten, we had the iHeartRadio app. Hello, 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:55.360 who's this Mike Mike Man? What up getting Mike Man? 0:10:55.520 --> 0:11:03.440 I was, Uh, you don't really many many you waited 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:05.680 five years to tell us that. No, I waited five 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:08.640 years to y'all. Man, I've been calling about five years. 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:12.120 Great man, So what are you gonna say? Nine man 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:14.800 to shut out the boys of our bus pool? Freedom? Man, 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:17.760 we on our weird words ever better ain't even matter. 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:20.040 And I'm happy to be alive. There you go, King, 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:23.439 I'm happy to be here. I appreciate it. Man, get 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:25.960 it off your chest. Eight undren five eight five one 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:27.760 oh five one. If you need to vent hit us 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:30.520 up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:36.840 Club back. You're checking out the world's most as morning 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:41.480 show Morning. Everybody's DJ Envy and julu Ye Charlemagne the guy. 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:43.520 We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:45.800 on the line. He was frozen for a little bit, 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:47.679 so he said, let me go buy the indoor pool 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:50.959 where he has better service. Ladies and gentlemen. Jo the 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:54.439 Lucas my guy, what's up? I feel like you late 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:57.160 this year? Man, You're don't dropped ADHD and evolution and 0:11:57.200 --> 0:11:59.880 you just popping up on us. Oh man, I'm I'm 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:03.400 I'm late. I stopped doing interviews and stuff a long 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:07.960 time ago. I don't like. I didn't like the way 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:10.160 they twist the narrative and twist the words and try to, 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:12.400 you know what I mean, like manipulate the situation and 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:15.280 then put clickbait and all that weird stuff. Man, it 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:17.160 was just weird Rodgers. I didn't like it. And I 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:20.480 just I felt like, Uh, the last interviews I had, 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:23.400 I was actually with Atlantic and it's and it started 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:27.280 feeling like they were more favors than than people actually 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:29.560 really wanted to interview me. Because once I sat down 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:31.640 with them, you know, it's like they didn't really do 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:34.000 their research and then you know what I'm saying, like 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:36.040 they were just asking super questions and it was just 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:38.160 like bro, like come on. And then and then actually 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:44.000 Hot nine seven who had told me in the interview 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:47.319 that Atlantic or whoever reached out to them to do 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:49.120 to give me the interview, and I didn't like that. 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:51.199 It was like, you're making you making you feel like, 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:52.760 you know what I mean, you don't want me here, 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:55.319 but yo, chasing for interview? Yeah, I feel like that. 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:57.480 Like that, I didn't like that. So I was just like, 0:12:57.720 --> 0:12:59.720 I'm straight, I'm straight with interviews bro, I don't want 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:02.839 to feel like I'm here because me to call so 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:05.360 like I didn't like that put. You put so much 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:08.960 into your music and your videos and the whole concepts, 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:11.000 So I can see why you would feel that way. 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:13.760 You should actually do something where you interview yourself. Maybe 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:15.600 you could be the journalist and then you can show 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:20.120 people how it's done in the song. Is that why 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:22.080 you left Atlantic? Is that the reason why you decided 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:26.240 to lead a major? Nah? I left Atlantic because it 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:30.160 just didn't feel I didn't feel like I was on pausible. 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:33.160 I didn't feel like they knew what to do with 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:36.319 a Joining Lucas, I don't think your ideas are easily 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:40.319 explainable to like these culturally coolest people at these record labels, though, 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:42.120 Like you're the type of person that you just gotta 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:44.360 show them. You gotta trust you gotta trust him what 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:47.640 he does. Absolutely just joining Lucas feel like he's underrated. 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:50.800 You drop two projects this year, two great projects, Evolution 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:53.760 and ADHD, And I don't feel like your name is 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:55.760 in the conversation the way it should be. So I 0:13:55.800 --> 0:14:01.079 feel like I'm underrated. Um, yes, no, I if I 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:04.480 am underrated, and it's my fault. Why why do you 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:06.800 say that? It just means I'm my working hard and 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:09.280 I need to work. I gotta figure out another plan 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:12.120 on how to be more visible. That's all it is. 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:14.360 I don't blame anybody for that by myself, you know. 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:16.760 I don't think somebody decides like this guy is gonna 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:19.880 be underrated, and then now everybody's like he's underrated. I 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:21.720 just think that that has to do with the artist. 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:23.400 I don't think so, because I think the art at 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:25.440 you as an artist is there, the art that you 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:27.640 put out, whether it's your videos and the songs and 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:29.440 the music and the album. So I think it's there. 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:33.440 So I don't necessarily believe it's you though. Nah. But again, 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:36.640 like it's it's it's all about what's working, you see. 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:40.480 My I have like a certain type of lane, you know, 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:44.400 with my storytelling stuff like whatever whatever, Like the highest 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:47.440 streaming artist right now or a young a young artist, 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:49.960 and you know, their records aren't really storytelling, you know 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.480 what I'm saying. It just it's all swagged out, it's all, 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:55.520 you know, for whatever the case is. So the visibility 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:57.240 on them is a little bit different because of it, 0:14:57.320 --> 0:15:00.800 because they they attract like the young kids. You know 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:03.120 what I'm saying, the fifteen sixty and seventeen year old 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:05.000 that's not really my thing, you know what I mean? 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:07.800 Like I haven't really even tapped into that market yet, 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:10.080 So you know, I just have to figure out what 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:11.720 it is that I have to be doing better, you 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:13.320 know what I'm saying. Also at the same time, like 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:16.520 everybody's all in cahos with each other, like these records 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:18.800 these can't they all do records with each other? I don't. 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:21.720 I haven't done records with anybody really like that, except 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:29.920 for like the ghost Man. You got will Man, Nobody Eminem, 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:32.760 I got Rick Ross on the album on Legend, on 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:35.680 on Evolution. Let's talk about it with the game. The game, 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:43.600 the game did the record? You man them kids join them, 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:48.720 That's what I'm saying. The visibility, Like I don't have 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:52.560 records with NBA. I don't even got records with Kodak. 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:54.840 I don't do you need them? Know? I would like 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:56.920 to see you with like Grisel, do you know what 0:15:56.920 --> 0:16:00.720 I mean? Roy? That's the That's what I'm saying, is no. 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:03.120 But that's what I'm saying, Like I feel like maybe 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:05.680 I keep putting myself in this box where like you 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:08.640 just expect that and I don't like that. Like Griselda, 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:10.880 I love Griselda, but I love Roy's. Those are my family. 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:14.000 But I'm just just relating a lyrical box like nah, bro, 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:16.000 Like that's not where I want to be. Like I 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:18.280 feel like I have the kids. I could absolutely make 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:21.320 mainstream records. I could do and still be Joiner. I can. 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:24.960 I can jump on MBA Young Boys and be Joining 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:27.000 Lucas and kill it and still fit in with the news. 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:29.960 I haven't tapped into that yet. That's something I haven't 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.440 done yet, Right, I've just been kind of doing me, 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:35.480 and I've been very successful at doing me, So I'm 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:38.600 not really tripping about the overrated thing. I'm rich. I've done. 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:41.320 I've done everything that I got out of the hood. 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:44.240 You know, I'm retired, my mom. You know what I'm saying. 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:47.360 I don't ballhouses like I'm good, like I'm That's what 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:50.200 we wanted, right, That's that's what all we got more 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:52.880 with joining Lucas. When we come back, it's the breakfast club, Bore, 0:16:53.440 --> 0:17:00.880 the breakfast Club jointing. Everybody's DJ Envy Angela Ye, Charlomagne, 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:02.960 the guy. We all to Breakfast Club was still kicking it. 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.600 Woul join the Lucas Ye, yes joining. And I did 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:07.400 want to ask you about the song like a River, 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:09.879 that's the last song on the album. It's about your father. 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:12.840 How therapeutic wasn't for you and what was your state 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:15.000 of mind while you were writing that song. Yeah, it 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:17.920 was very It was very therapeutic because I held a 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:20.200 lot of this energy and you know, for such a 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:25.760 long time that situation specifically, it is just a really 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:31.160 really volatile, you know, situation that I can't I can't 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:34.920 figure it out. I can't talk about it in depth 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:38.959 of what actually happened. But if I told you what happened, 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:43.480 it would be quiet. Everybody would be quiet, and you 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:46.920 would just be like, damn, it's a really situation. But 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:50.600 it's something that it lives with me because because to 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:52.640 this day, I still see things that make that it's 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:55.640 still you know, it's still it just doesn't make any sense. 0:17:55.720 --> 0:18:00.080 It's like why would right? But I think that me 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:02.960 creating this record it really helped. It helps me heal 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:05.600 because now that I know I'm like keeping you know, 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:08.119 everything away, you know, from the world. I like to 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:12.560 expressed myself for my music, you know, So if the fame, 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:16.680 amongst a lot of other things really cost me that 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:20.240 relationship and as some relationship that would never be repaired 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:24.080 ever again, no matter what, can never be repaired. And 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:27.560 not only did I lose that, but I also lost 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:30.920 everybody else on that side, your whole father's side of 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:34.440 the family, everybody that knew about what the situation was, 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:38.359 and everybody that continued that had to continue to have 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:42.680 a relationship with him Dad to go wow, and it's 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:46.240 it's it's it's it's honestly what it feels like you 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:49.600 put your family, an entire family, on one plane and 0:18:49.720 --> 0:18:54.960 the whole plane just crashed. Everybody, everybody. So I reached 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:58.760 out to you when this kind of but but not 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:01.280 really and they have and I've attempted to try to 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:04.440 and it's just it's one of those things where it's 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:08.040 like for me, it's like once when when when we're 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:12.200 talking about certain right, like there's some things that are forgivable. 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:13.920 There's some things that you can like Okay, this is 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:16.800 just another but then there's like certain things that's just 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:19.440 like nah, like bro, there's a line like when it 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:22.080 comes to this, it's you got to pick a side. 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:24.560 I can't with you knowing that you feel with him, 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:26.919 that's just what it is. And if you feel with him, 0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:29.800 I'm gonna care you. Mom. You're his brother, your sister, 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:32.440 you're his daughters. If you feel with him, knowing this, 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:38.800 that's it, period. And it costs me again, and you know, 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:41.159 due to that, and I understand it. I get it, 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:44.200 you know, and the she's son, that she's brother and whatever, 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:48.920 cool have that relationship. It is what it is. Get 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:53.080 lead me to alone. But that's that's definitely a part 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:55.800 of my life. That is a very dark place for 0:19:55.960 --> 0:19:59.119 me because again, it's that crash. It's that plane crash. 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:02.120 You know, body died, and it's just like now, it's 0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:06.399 just I had to create my own world, you know 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:09.680 what I mean, and completely leave that side behind and 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:12.879 completely pick up the pieces and just and continue to go. 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:15.480 But it is difficult. It is very difficult thing to 0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:18.159 do because you still don't understand it, you know what 0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:19.639 I mean. But it's like you got to do it, 0:20:19.760 --> 0:20:23.200 and it definitely had my mental health up for a 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:25.440 little bit. Have you spoke to your therapist about it? 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:28.520 I don't have one. You gotta get one. Brother. I 0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:30.600 don't know a million percent. I agree with you, I 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:33.560 a billion percent. I agree with you, and I want 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:36.200 to and I and I will and I am I 0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:40.399 just have it yet, and I definitely I definitely need one. 0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:42.359 I'll tell you that. Add that to your rupper too. 0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:46.439 Are going into twenty twenty one, and again everything everything 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:49.720 happened so fast for me, bro everything changed completely quick. 0:20:49.840 --> 0:20:53.000 So I definitely need like therapy to deal with a 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:55.600 lot of this sh that I've dealt with and you know, 0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:58.560 a lot of my new responsibilities and like my new 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:01.840 life that I have now, it's definitely and complete, ob Yeah, 0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:03.800 Because you know, therapy helped me to deal with a 0:21:03.840 --> 0:21:06.320 lot of issues I was having with my pops, you 0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:07.960 know what I mean, A lot of things that I 0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:10.679 hadn't had conversations with him about, a lot of things 0:21:10.760 --> 0:21:12.600 I hadn't dealt with, you know, from from when I 0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:14.840 was when I was younger, and I was holding a 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:18.200 lot of resentment and a lot of of of anger 0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:21.520 towards him, you know, but therapy helped me to really 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:23.840 process it. Because one thing you realize about your parents, 0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:27.240 especially your father, is he was a human being just 0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:29.560 doing the best that he could, you know what I mean? 0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:31.919 But he had his own demons and his own flaws 0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:34.000 and his own things that he was dealing with. So 0:21:34.080 --> 0:21:36.359 it makes you have more empathy for him, for at 0:21:36.400 --> 0:21:43.800 least for me join us. You know, damn, we appreciate 0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:45.600 you for joining in us. You've been up here for 0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:47.879 an hour. Man, we appreciate you sharing all your stories 0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:52.240 with interviews. Hopefully you come back and he's done, and 0:21:52.400 --> 0:21:55.119 he's like, all right, we appreciate. We could stay all day. 0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:57.880 I ain't got to do it. It's colder, I ain't 0:21:57.920 --> 0:21:59.880 got no bags to chase. We could stay here all day. 0:21:59.880 --> 0:22:05.480 But guys, sorry that this whole COVID thing prohibited us 0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:08.240 from the actually meeting in person again. And you know what, 0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:10.240 I'm sitting down and chopping it up. I brought you guys. 0:22:10.440 --> 0:22:12.400 You look rich. I haven't gonna lie to you. I'm 0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:20.360 proud of you. Bro, you look rich. Say yeah, man, 0:22:20.720 --> 0:22:25.600 I appreciate I appreciate it. I fully do. I really 0:22:25.680 --> 0:22:32.520 appreciate guys, man for everything, y'all, Thank you, peace King. Alright, 0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:36.160 just join the Lucas. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning morning. 0:22:36.200 --> 0:22:40.200 Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne, the guy we 0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:42.639 are the Breakfast Club that when we come back, we're 0:22:42.680 --> 0:22:45.600 gonna get on our interview with Barack Obama. President Barack Obama. 0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:47.600 So we're gonna get that on in a second. To 0:22:47.720 --> 0:22:50.199 don't move happy, Martin Luther King Day. It's the Breakfast 0:22:50.240 --> 0:22:54.639 Local Morning, the Breakfast Club, Envy, Angela Ye and Charlomagne 0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:59.919 the God Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy and Jela Ye, 0:23:00.200 --> 0:23:02.720 Charlemagne the Guy. We are to Breakfast Club. And that 0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:04.720 is what we do every line. You were talking nice 0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:07.119 and love. This is how we talk every day, and 0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:09.520 it wasn't coming in high and now you are well, 0:23:09.600 --> 0:23:11.680 now we are. We have a special guest. He served 0:23:11.800 --> 0:23:14.639 eight years as the forty fourth president of the United States. 0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:18.280 Ladies and gentlemen, President Barack Obama. Never heard of him, 0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:21.800 never heard of him. You know what I heard of, y'all. 0:23:22.480 --> 0:23:24.840 And I appreciate you guys having me. It's wonderful to 0:23:24.880 --> 0:23:26.840 see you again. Thank you for being in. Thank you. 0:23:27.240 --> 0:23:28.760 And we don't have much time, so let's get right 0:23:28.800 --> 0:23:31.800 into us A Promised Land. Why is that the title 0:23:32.080 --> 0:23:35.000 for your book? When I think about America, I think 0:23:35.080 --> 0:23:38.600 about both where we've been, where we might be going. 0:23:39.520 --> 0:23:42.600 I'm reminded of Doctor King's speech, the famous speech he 0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:47.760 gave shortly before he got shot about I might not 0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:50.280 get there with you, but I've been at the mountain 0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:52.520 top and I see the promised land, and I think 0:23:52.600 --> 0:23:56.960 that that idea that we're not where we need to be, 0:23:57.840 --> 0:24:02.159 but we still act the faith and the belief that 0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:06.280 we can get there. That's how I think about America. 0:24:06.400 --> 0:24:10.600 That's how I think about my own political journey. That's 0:24:10.640 --> 0:24:14.119 not one where it's ever gonna be finished. It's not 0:24:14.280 --> 0:24:18.399 one where racism is gone or inequality is gone, but 0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:21.879 what we can continually try to do better. That was 0:24:22.280 --> 0:24:24.960 the spirit that I wanted to communicate. You see in 0:24:25.000 --> 0:24:27.960 the preface that America's ideals have always been secondary to 0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:31.280 conquest and subjugation, a racial cast system, and that to 0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:33.560 pretend otherwise is to be complicit in a game that 0:24:33.680 --> 0:24:35.639 was rigged from the start. So my question is, if 0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:37.680 the game is rigged, and we know the fight is fixed, 0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:39.840 how could black people ever believe in this idea of 0:24:40.160 --> 0:24:43.320 America being a promised to land. That's one argument, and 0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:48.760 that's how some people feel, and obviously there's evidence of that. Slavery. 0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:53.639 Jim Crow, Native Americans being driven from their lands. On 0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:56.480 the other hand, what we also have stories of is 0:24:57.600 --> 0:25:04.679 abolition and civil rights movement and folks fighting for their 0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:12.560 freedom and generation passing on a legacy of struggle that 0:25:12.680 --> 0:25:15.400 results in something a little bit better. What I try 0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:19.600 to do book as a whole is painting an honest 0:25:19.640 --> 0:25:23.600 picture about how there's a gap between the myth of 0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:27.880 America and the reality of America. Will never completely close 0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:32.200 that gap, but if we put in the effort, if 0:25:32.280 --> 0:25:37.760 we stay focused, reach out, then we can get closer 0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:41.920 to the ideal. You know, one of the lessons I 0:25:42.000 --> 0:25:46.200 try to teach in the book about politics is it's 0:25:46.240 --> 0:25:48.960 never going to be perfect. We live in a big 0:25:49.040 --> 0:25:53.000 country with a lot of different points of view. We've 0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:58.760 got hundreds of years of oppression and discrimination that have 0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:03.600 to be overcome. We've got, you know, the natural human 0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:08.560 impulses that you see around the world, greed, power, you know, 0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:12.240 folks trying to get over on others. But you also 0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:17.520 see kindness, courage, folks looking out for each other, and 0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:21.240 a lot of goodness along with the bad and and 0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:25.760 in politics, the job is not to think that you're 0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:28.960 ever going to eliminate all the bad. Its can can 0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:35.000 you empower the good to make more kids get a 0:26:35.040 --> 0:26:38.480 better education, to make sure that some folks have better healthcare, 0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:42.159 to make sure that you know, there's less discrimination, and 0:26:42.400 --> 0:26:45.920 that the police are more accountable. And if you if 0:26:45.960 --> 0:26:48.399 you do that and you stick with it. Yeah, the 0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:51.120 distance that we've traveled, let's say, just in my lifetime, 0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:53.840 we were talking before we got on the air, I'm 0:26:53.880 --> 0:26:58.560 fifty nine. I don't feel old. And in you know, 0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:00.920 human history, fifty nine years is a blink of the eye. 0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:03.840 None of us would have been sitting here fifty nine 0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:09.160 years ago. We couldn't imagine, you know, you guys having 0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:13.160 your own show that you control and that you produce. 0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:16.320 And I couldn't imagine being a former president and having 0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:19.040 a best selling book that just wasn't in the cards. 0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:22.720 And that was just you know, in my life. And 0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:26.320 so we can imagine if we keep working that maybe 0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:30.239 our kids, certainly our grandkids, if we do it right, 0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:33.840 they're going to be that much more ahead of the 0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:37.840 game now. But you know, one thing that we always 0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:40.159 have to remember is history doesn't just go forward, it 0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:43.400 can go backwards too, and if we're not vigilant, things 0:27:43.480 --> 0:27:46.200 can get worse. President Obama. I wanted to ask you 0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:49.280 something about Rev. And Jeremiah Right from in your book, 0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:52.000 because you've addressed it, Michelle Obama has addressed it. Do 0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:54.639 you think that in today's climate, the comments and the 0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:57.719 speeches that Jeremiah Right Gabe would still be looked at 0:27:57.760 --> 0:27:59.280 the same way where you would have had to distance 0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:03.680 it yourself him today. Yeah, you know, it's Look, it's 0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:06.560 an interesting thing. As I write about in the book. 0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:10.360 You know, Reverend Wright as an example of somebody who 0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:16.240 supremely gifted Preacher Trinity United Church of Christ on Sasas 0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:23.320 Chicago had amazing ministry still does. I was very close 0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:26.440 to a lot of people in that congregation as well 0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:31.040 as Reverend Right. In national politics, if you can take 0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:35.880 out a bunch of sound bites that say goddamn America, 0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:40.680 even if the context of it is prophetic and biblical, 0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:45.480 and he's trying to describe, you know, how somebody might feel. 0:28:46.160 --> 0:28:50.320 You know, he wasn't promoting the notion that God was 0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:53.120 damning America. He was making the point that if you 0:28:53.240 --> 0:28:56.920 looked at slavery and discrimination, you could see the conclusion 0:28:57.080 --> 0:29:00.440 of people feeling that there was not an alignment with 0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:04.240 Christian values and America. But if you'd see a two 0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:09.720 minute SoundBite trying to explain that is too complicated. In 0:29:09.920 --> 0:29:15.560 my campaign, I had to constantly manage the fact that 0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:20.160 truths that black folks experience on a day to day 0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:22.680 basis are not going to be the same as the 0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:26.600 truths that the country as a whole experience. But if 0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:29.360 you want to operate at the highest level of politics, 0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:32.480 you have to be able to communicate and translate for 0:29:34.280 --> 0:29:37.200 the country as a whole. And there were times where 0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:44.800 I was surprised by the reaction of folks, generally white voters, 0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:48.720 to certain things that to me didn't seem like it 0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:53.760 was something they should be surprised or upset about. And 0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:57.080 I suspect attitudes would probably be a little bit different now. 0:29:57.200 --> 0:29:59.560 And I give to give one example that I use 0:29:59.600 --> 0:30:04.520 in the book, when Professor Skip Gates gets arrested in 0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:08.800 his own house. I write about the fact that in 0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:11.280 a press conference, I'm asked about it and I said, well, 0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:13.880 you know, I think the police probably acted stupidly and 0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:20.400 arresting you know, sixty year old professor who's got a 0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:24.320 lame leg in his own house after he's shown them ideas. 0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:27.400 Even if he cussed out the police. All they have 0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:32.360 to do is just leave right, And that was treated 0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:38.880 with all kinds of controversy, and my polling with white 0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:43.120 voters dropped drastically because the notion is somehow I was 0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:47.160 insulting the police. I think today, in light of everything 0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:49.920 that's happened and part of what happened this summer terms 0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:54.760 of raising awareness of potential bias in the criminal justice system, 0:30:54.960 --> 0:31:00.560 I suspect that that would not have seemed as much 0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:04.760 of a controversial statement as it was viewed at the time, 0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:06.320 even though at the time I didn't think it was 0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:09.000 particularly controversial. You talk about that in a Good Fight chapter. 0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:12.760 Henry Lewis gets the Gate situation, but you also say 0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:15.360 that wouldn't have happened to a white person in the 0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:17.880 same situation. But at the same time you say, you 0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:20.240 wish you had have said that then, but you didn't. 0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:23.520 So we bite our tongue in situations like that. Who 0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:25.600 we trying to protect. One of the things that you 0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:30.400 that I try to communicate in this book is what's 0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:40.880 the best way to expand folks understanding? Right there? Where 0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:46.720 do you see teachable moments? And there have been times where, 0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:57.520 for example, the tragedy in Charleston when Pickney and others 0:31:57.560 --> 0:31:59.880 who are praying and invited a young white man into 0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:03.440 pray with them. He then shoots them. He's obviously his 0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:09.960 head's been filled up with racist ideology. That was a 0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:14.400 teachable moment where I could say some things that I 0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:21.080 might not have said in another context. You know. And 0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:24.560 part of what I also try to describe in the 0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:28.960 book is the fact that the prophetic voice that you 0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:33.680 have if you are a civil rights leader, if you're 0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:36.680 a Malcolm, if you're a Martin, is not going to 0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:41.120 be the same voice as if you're a politician, Because politicians. 0:32:41.280 --> 0:32:43.800 The whole thing is, I've got to figure out how 0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:47.160 do I get this white senator from this conservative state 0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:53.360 to maybe support this built That's different from me teaching 0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:57.880 as a civil rights leader or a movement leader, and 0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:03.440 each show us have different roles to play in that process. 0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:06.560 Now we have more with Barack Obama, President Barack Obama. 0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:08.800 When we come back, it's the Breakfast Club, Good morning morning. 0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:12.800 Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We 0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:16.840 are the Breakfast Club. We're celebrating Luther King Day. We're 0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:19.880 not here but we're getting on our interview with Barack Obama. 0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:21.640 It's the Breakfast Club. Good Morning. One thing I love 0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:23.960 about the book, President Obama is you talk about your 0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:26.959 relationship with your wife, and you talk about how your 0:33:27.040 --> 0:33:29.600 wife is the boss and you're scared of them. You 0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:32.360 also talk about how every decision has to be approved 0:33:32.400 --> 0:33:35.040 by your wife. You Know. One thing that I love 0:33:35.080 --> 0:33:38.520 about the book is everybody talks about relationships and sometimes 0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:40.880 things seem perfect, but in your book you show that 0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:43.160 things aren't perfect. You know, I've been married nineteen years. 0:33:43.800 --> 0:33:45.800 So when you talk about your wife and you talk 0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:47.560 about how hard it was and how she didn't want 0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:50.000 you to run, how bad did it get in the household? 0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:51.720 Did it ever get to the point where it was like, 0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:53.800 you know what, maybe this is not going to work 0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:55.480 for us? Or is that never an option when it 0:33:55.520 --> 0:33:58.160 came to a relationship. So I think I think there 0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:04.040 were times where certainly she thought this wasn't gonna work. 0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:11.759 Michelle is somebody who has a different temperament than me, 0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:14.800 and I think she'd admit that she has more of 0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:18.879 a temper than I does than I do. I think 0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:23.279 she can get more pessimistic sometimes about things than I can. 0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:27.680 I tend to be pretty even keeled. Yeah, we'll figure 0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:31.000 this out kind of approach. But as I write about 0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:34.920 in the book, sometimes that's that itself is frustrating to 0:34:35.120 --> 0:34:38.400 your partner. Right If you're all like, hey, honey, you know, relax, 0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:41.080 why are you getting so excited about stuff? You know, 0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:45.120 then she'll be like, Oh, you're just not listening to 0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:47.800 me at all, Right, And I know I listened to you. 0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:52.120 I'm I'm just saying, you know, it's not so bad. Well, 0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:55.080 what do you think I'm overreacting? Is that what you're saying? Right? 0:34:55.120 --> 0:35:00.200 And then you you're in that pattern. So there's no 0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:05.320 doubt that there were periods. There were episodes where she 0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:12.160 was questioning whether the life that I had charted for 0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:16.319 us was compatible with what she wanted out of life. 0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:19.960 You know, she, you know, Michelle once told me something 0:35:20.040 --> 0:35:23.080 that I think summed it up pretty well. She said, 0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:26.080 I have organized my life not to have a lot 0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:30.480 of mess in my life, and politics, by definition, brings 0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:34.839 mess into our household. You've got people that I would 0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:39.520 never associate with otherwise who now suddenly are talking about 0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:45.360 us or you know, have impact on our well being. 0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:49.759 And I don't. That's not what I want and I 0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:55.080 understood that. And the sacrifice she made is one that 0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:57.759 you know, I've had to work off, you know, the 0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:06.480 like I I've been. My debt has been it's almost 0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:08.279 like a payday loan, you know, it just keeps on. 0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:11.200 The interest was high. How did y'all get over it? 0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:14.200 Was it therapy? Was it friends? Was it reverence? Was 0:36:14.280 --> 0:36:17.480 it church? Was it prayer? When the terms were over? Well? 0:36:17.840 --> 0:36:20.360 I think all of the above. Yeah. Michelle talked to 0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:22.400 right writes about the fact that you know, we went 0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:26.000 to counseling pre presidency, and that was when the kids 0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:29.399 were small, and I think anybody who's had small kids, 0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:31.759 you know, that's always a strain. You know, as much 0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:36.640 joy as they bring, there is that tension, especially if 0:36:36.760 --> 0:36:43.680 both uh spouses are working right, um and during the 0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:45.719 White House. Look, I give a lot of credit to 0:36:45.800 --> 0:36:50.000 my mother in law because, uh, miss Marian, you know, 0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:54.000 she would Michelle be hot, you know, she'd grow upstairs. 0:36:55.000 --> 0:36:57.000 My mother in law was living on the in the 0:36:57.960 --> 0:37:00.680 sweep and on the third floor, and Michelle to go 0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:03.200 up there, and I'm pretty sure she talked Michelle down 0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:09.600 a couple of times. Friends, one thing we Michelle and 0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:14.920 I both tell younger couples who are going through rough patches. 0:37:17.000 --> 0:37:19.840 I think we were pretty good about the fact that 0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:27.480 even when things were tough, we never lost basic respect 0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:32.240 for the other person. We never thought that that person 0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:35.560 was a bad person. We never said things that would 0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:39.160 make it seem as if, oh, you just completely disrespect me. 0:37:39.880 --> 0:37:45.239 It was more, look, I love you, bark, but you 0:37:45.360 --> 0:37:49.160 know this is driving me crazy or un you know 0:37:49.239 --> 0:37:52.600 how much I respect you. But so I think that 0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:57.440 is part of what kept us able to sort this out, 0:37:57.480 --> 0:38:02.520 because we never doubted each other's intentions. And the basic 0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:06.120 fact that you know, my view of Michelle is she 0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:10.080 is a remarkable woman, even you know, if she drive 0:38:10.160 --> 0:38:13.760 me crazy sometimes, I never thought that there was anybody 0:38:13.840 --> 0:38:18.040 who I would rather be with, you know, being that 0:38:18.120 --> 0:38:20.719 you're so even killed, right, did you ever take your 0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:24.160 frustrations from work home? And did you ever do anything 0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:26.000 like punch a wall or what did you do when 0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:30.439 you got mad? You know? I had there were times 0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:32.680 where I would have a potty mouth in the oval office. 0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:37.360 But I heard some of his book, which I appreciate 0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:40.399 because well, I mean, I think it's I think it's 0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:44.600 important to be honest, because part of what I try 0:38:44.640 --> 0:38:49.120 to describe in the book is the White House, you know, 0:38:49.680 --> 0:38:52.839 and the presidency. Look, you're the leader of the free world, 0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:55.879 is the most powerful office on her but it's also 0:38:55.960 --> 0:38:59.840 a job. And the West Wing is also an office, 0:39:00.280 --> 0:39:03.239 and you're going to have some of the same frustrations 0:39:03.560 --> 0:39:11.000 and mistakes and doubts and mishaps as in any office, 0:39:11.160 --> 0:39:14.640 in any job, which also means sometimes you're gonna cuss 0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:20.000 a little bit because because stuff's frustrating. Um, working out 0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:24.200 was important, you know, we get those workouts in sometimes. 0:39:24.920 --> 0:39:28.120 Uh you know, dear friend of ours who who was 0:39:28.160 --> 0:39:32.759 also a trainer, Cornell mccleollen, we uh uh, you would 0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:36.680 get the boxing gloves out and it didn't seem too funness. 0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:38.320 A lot of older people in the White House that 0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:39.880 you can't just say, let's play a pickup game. Those 0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:43.360 guys pass out, you know. Now. I had my weekend 0:39:43.440 --> 0:39:45.680 game though with Reggie love right who you know on 0:39:45.760 --> 0:39:48.759 Reggie at that time was you know, probably he just 0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:51.600 turned thirty. He wasn't posting up Joe Biden, and so no, 0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:54.520 we could we couldn't play. We couldn't play in the 0:39:54.560 --> 0:39:56.640 White House. We had a we had a regular game. 0:39:56.760 --> 0:39:59.680 Reggie had his crew, and so we we had regular 0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:03.319 bad fsketball games. You know a lot of times though, 0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:07.600 you know, you would just try to take the long 0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:10.520 view in dealing with frustrations. If Mitch McConnell and the 0:40:10.640 --> 0:40:14.399 Republicans were blocking something for no reason, if they were 0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:19.800 playing games that actually had real consequences in terms of 0:40:19.840 --> 0:40:21.880 people being able to get healthcare or be able to 0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:26.480 get some relief from unemployment or what have you. You know, 0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:30.040 you just had to remind yourself that you were in 0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:34.520 a long term contest and there were going to be 0:40:34.640 --> 0:40:37.719 up and downs at any given time, but that if 0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:40.279 you kept your eye on the ball, that you know, 0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:43.120 sooner or later you can prepare, you know, and yes 0:40:43.200 --> 0:40:45.680 we can chapter them. You discuss how you were frustrated 0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:48.840 with the constant need to soften for white folks benefit 0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:51.520 the blunt truths about raising this country. You still feel 0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:53.439 the need to do that after the last four years, 0:40:53.480 --> 0:40:58.200 we wouldn't. Well, I think we're all a little bit 0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:04.120 more open and aware. And one of the things that 0:41:04.239 --> 0:41:09.560 I was really inspired by in the wake of tragedy 0:41:10.440 --> 0:41:16.440 was the response after George Floyd's murder, because what you 0:41:16.640 --> 0:41:21.520 saw was not only people of all walks of life 0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:25.839 out there protesting. It wasn't just black folks. But when 0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:29.960 you looked at the polling, you actually saw that by 0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:34.719 a significant number, many more white Americans were willing to 0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:38.040 acknowledge problems in the criminal justice system based on race. 0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:40.719 Why do we have to wait on them though, well, 0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:44.400 to speak our truth to power? You know, what this 0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:48.320 comes down to is how do you build coalitions to 0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:51.439 actually get stuff done? Because the truth of the matter 0:41:51.640 --> 0:41:57.840 is is that in very few places are African Americans 0:41:57.880 --> 0:42:00.880 a majority of the vote that you know, it's just 0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:05.319 simple math, right so and right where we're sitting right 0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:09.840 now in Washington, DC, that would be the case. But 0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:17.320 there are not a lot of states, and they're a 0:42:17.440 --> 0:42:22.239 handful of cities where just the black vote delivers the 0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:24.840 power then to actually bring about concrete change. Now we 0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:27.840 have more with Barack Obama, President Barack Obama, when we 0:42:27.920 --> 0:42:33.880 come back, it's the Breakfast Club wanting everybody's DJ Envy 0:42:34.080 --> 0:42:36.839 Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club 0:42:36.880 --> 0:42:38.960 and getting on that interview with Barack Obama on his 0:42:39.040 --> 0:42:41.440 mortin Luther King Day, it's the breakfast Lugal morning. I 0:42:41.480 --> 0:42:43.920 think I think people want to know, like, what did 0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:47.320 you do specifically for black people? Not the rising tide 0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:49.400 lifts all boats types of rhetoric, because we all know 0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:51.040 black people's boat got to hold in it. So the 0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:52.839 systemic things that we're done to black people to put 0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:55.480 us in these positions, we need specific systemic things to 0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:58.040 get us out. So well, but what I'm doing, what 0:42:58.480 --> 0:43:02.640 I'm saying, tarvel Mane, is black property drop faster than 0:43:02.719 --> 0:43:08.000 everybody else. Black incomes went up more than a lot 0:43:08.040 --> 0:43:11.800 of other folks. So you know, the issue is sometimes 0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:14.920 we just didn't go around advertising that because once again, 0:43:16.760 --> 0:43:20.880 the goal here is to build coalitions where everybody is 0:43:21.360 --> 0:43:23.480 getting something so that they all feel like they've got 0:43:23.560 --> 0:43:27.640 a stake in it. But a lot of my policies 0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:33.719 were targeted towards people most in need. Those folks are 0:43:33.840 --> 0:43:38.360 disproportionately African American. Now, there are some things that for example, 0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:43.600 US having a Civil Rights division in the Justice Department 0:43:43.719 --> 0:43:49.480 that actually took seriously civil rights and imposed consent decrees 0:43:49.560 --> 0:43:54.839 on places like Ferguson, and you know, change sentencing guidelines 0:43:55.520 --> 0:43:59.879 so that we didn't max out on sentencing for all 0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:03.680 non violent drug offenses, but change the incentives of the 0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:06.759 prosecutors were judged not by how long of a sense 0:44:06.800 --> 0:44:08.680 you got, but did you get a proportional sentence? Was 0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:13.520 it a fair sentence? Those kinds of changes that we made. 0:44:15.080 --> 0:44:19.080 That's why I say there's a reason why the federal 0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:22.799 prison population dropped, by the way, at the same time 0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:25.360 the crime also dropped, right, So we were able to 0:44:25.440 --> 0:44:30.759 show that you can have a smart strategy in terms 0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:37.960 of reducing crime without expanding incarceration. But the truth of 0:44:38.000 --> 0:44:41.759 the matter is she at the end of the day, 0:44:42.840 --> 0:44:46.960 there is no way in eight years to make up 0:44:47.080 --> 0:44:53.080 for two hundred years. Absolutely, And the question is constantly, 0:44:53.320 --> 0:44:57.040 how are you going to you know, the way I've 0:44:57.120 --> 0:45:00.600 been describing it because because it's very much how I 0:45:01.040 --> 0:45:04.960 understand the presidency. Now. You're like a relay runner. You know, 0:45:05.120 --> 0:45:09.160 you you're getting the baton from somebody else, and all 0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:11.399 you can do is run your stage or the race, 0:45:12.360 --> 0:45:14.080 and then you pass it on the next person. And 0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:18.440 on either side, both who you got to hit from 0:45:18.560 --> 0:45:22.360 and who you're passing it too, they may not have 0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:25.800 the same priorities that you do. You know, you're you 0:45:26.000 --> 0:45:28.360 know that you're not going to get everything done that 0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:30.880 you need to get done. But what you got to 0:45:30.920 --> 0:45:34.279 do is do your best to get as much done 0:45:34.320 --> 0:45:36.359 as possible, and I think that's what we did. Would 0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:38.719 you say that your intention with this book was to 0:45:38.840 --> 0:45:41.560 explain to people also how difficult it was for you 0:45:41.640 --> 0:45:43.800 to get things passed and for people to see what 0:45:43.920 --> 0:45:46.160 you did do, because, like you said in the book, 0:45:46.160 --> 0:45:48.040 a lot of times, it's not your policies and what 0:45:48.160 --> 0:45:50.440 you do, it's more what you say and the feeling 0:45:50.520 --> 0:45:52.400 that people have, and that's what they pay attention to. 0:45:52.640 --> 0:45:56.960 So absolutely, Look, let's take something like, you know, the 0:45:58.360 --> 0:46:02.279 the Recovery Act. So I walk in the day I 0:46:02.360 --> 0:46:04.359 walk in, we're losing eight hundred thousand jobs a month. 0:46:04.719 --> 0:46:07.520 The economy is actually contracting faster than it did during 0:46:07.560 --> 0:46:12.360 the Great Depression. And six months later the economy was 0:46:12.440 --> 0:46:16.719 growing again and we had kind of stopped the free fall. 0:46:17.960 --> 0:46:19.719 But if you're somebody who had lost your job at 0:46:19.760 --> 0:46:22.920 that point or lost your house, you're not feeling good. 0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:26.800 And we couldn't go around saying look what a pattering 0:46:26.840 --> 0:46:28.600 ourselves on the back, saying look at what a great 0:46:28.680 --> 0:46:30.759 job we did, because people are still hurting out there. 0:46:31.680 --> 0:46:35.200 I hope if somebody reads this, they come to recognize 0:46:36.320 --> 0:46:40.399 if we want to bring about systemic change, there are 0:46:41.440 --> 0:46:43.920 a whole bunch of different pressure points that we have 0:46:44.080 --> 0:46:48.200 to apply. It's not just the presidency. So I write 0:46:48.239 --> 0:46:51.680 extensively about the fact that I have a lot of 0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:54.920 power as president. I'm the most powerful person as president, 0:46:55.280 --> 0:46:59.640 but I still need a Congress. I still need to 0:46:59.800 --> 0:47:01.480 make make sure that we have a majority in the 0:47:01.560 --> 0:47:04.080 House of Representatives, because if I don't, I can't get 0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:07.160 any a single law passed if I want to change something. 0:47:07.239 --> 0:47:11.920 On criminal justice reform, it turns out that the federal 0:47:12.000 --> 0:47:15.080 government isn't actually in charge of most criminal law. Most 0:47:15.120 --> 0:47:18.560 criminal laws made at the state level and determined by 0:47:18.680 --> 0:47:23.200 state prosecutors. Most police departments the federal government has done 0:47:23.239 --> 0:47:26.319 to do with that's determined by the mayor in that city. 0:47:26.880 --> 0:47:30.120 Whether they're prosecuted when they do something wrong, that's up 0:47:30.160 --> 0:47:35.080 to the states attorney or attorney in that area. So 0:47:36.440 --> 0:47:40.440 when we think about politics, it is a mistake for 0:47:40.560 --> 0:47:44.080 us to say, Okay, once i'm I voted for president, 0:47:44.120 --> 0:47:47.120 I'm done. And I hope people don't repeat that mistake 0:47:47.160 --> 0:47:51.480 with Biden and Kamala Harris, right, Now we've got two 0:47:51.560 --> 0:47:54.799 seats in Georgia coming up. If the Republicans win those 0:47:54.840 --> 0:47:58.080 two seats, then Joe Biden and Kamala Harris will not 0:47:58.200 --> 0:48:00.600 be able to get any law pass. Asked that Mitch 0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:03.799 McConnell and the Republicans aren't willing to go along with Well, 0:48:03.840 --> 0:48:06.439 you got to do a better job of letting people know. Hey, 0:48:06.920 --> 0:48:09.160 I wanted to do a lot more for people, especially 0:48:09.239 --> 0:48:11.680 black people, but I couldn't because Miss McConnell was blocking 0:48:11.719 --> 0:48:13.279 me every chance you got. Well, that's why I wrote 0:48:13.320 --> 0:48:17.640 the book that's everybody. Everybody gonna read. That's all I'm saying. Well, 0:48:18.800 --> 0:48:22.960 all these interviews that I hear some people listen to. 0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:25.879 You said, you're telling about Georgia where Warnock, I see 0:48:25.920 --> 0:48:28.560 they're giving him issues about his alliance with Jeremiah Rights 0:48:28.680 --> 0:48:30.400 the same kind of stuff. Did you tell him he 0:48:30.440 --> 0:48:34.319 should step back and denounce him at this point? No. Look, 0:48:34.880 --> 0:48:37.680 first of all, it is a losing game at this 0:48:37.840 --> 0:48:43.840 stage to just go chasing crazy commentary. Uh, there's some 0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:48.360 things you have to answer aggressively, but you can't obsess 0:48:48.440 --> 0:48:53.960 over it. Warnock is doing a great job. If I'm him, 0:48:54.040 --> 0:48:57.040 I'm going to be emphasizing what am I positively going 0:48:57.120 --> 0:48:59.680 to do on behalf of the people of Georgia that 0:49:00.000 --> 0:49:05.320 as opposed to just trying to play defense against a 0:49:05.440 --> 0:49:09.360 bunch of crazy stuff that's coming out there. But but listen, 0:49:10.400 --> 0:49:15.120 it's hard winning in Georgia, just like it's hard winning 0:49:15.160 --> 0:49:20.320 in Iowa. It's like it's hard in a lot of 0:49:20.360 --> 0:49:24.120 the country. And one thing I think that I hope 0:49:24.160 --> 0:49:27.880 the book also reminds us of, you know, those of 0:49:27.960 --> 0:49:33.319 us who live in DC or New York or LA. 0:49:35.000 --> 0:49:41.239 You know, sometimes we do not have a a good 0:49:41.360 --> 0:49:46.120 enough sense of how big this country is and how 0:49:46.200 --> 0:49:49.880 a lot of folks do not accept at all things 0:49:50.000 --> 0:49:54.200 that we who are living in urban metropolitan areas just 0:49:54.320 --> 0:49:57.040 take for granted. From South Carolina, I don't know. Yeah, 0:49:57.280 --> 0:49:58.840 I mean it's you know, you go, there are a 0:49:58.840 --> 0:50:01.799 big chance in the country, even in our own communities, right, 0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:06.960 I mean so so I deeply believe that people should 0:50:06.960 --> 0:50:11.840 be treated equally under the law, regardless of sexual orientation. 0:50:12.680 --> 0:50:14.399 I was shocked you talked about that in the book, 0:50:14.520 --> 0:50:17.520 But we all, you know, I mean, I think they're 0:50:17.600 --> 0:50:22.560 big chunks of our community where that's still controversial. People 0:50:22.600 --> 0:50:27.600 were surprised about a lot of Hispanic folks who voted 0:50:27.680 --> 0:50:32.160 for Trump. But there's a lot of evangelical Hispanics who, 0:50:33.040 --> 0:50:36.799 you know, the fact that Trump says racist things about 0:50:36.840 --> 0:50:44.400 Mexicans or puts detainees, you know, undocumented workers in cages, 0:50:45.760 --> 0:50:48.520 they think that's less important than the fact that, you know, 0:50:48.719 --> 0:50:54.000 he supports their views on you know, gay marriage or abortion. Right. 0:50:54.080 --> 0:50:57.040 It's hard to believe when you say this, but then 0:50:57.080 --> 0:50:59.359 you look at the way the government is ran. Right, 0:50:59.719 --> 0:51:02.480 it's about, for instance, you look at these big businesses 0:51:02.600 --> 0:51:04.520 and you look at their taxes, and they don't pay 0:51:04.600 --> 0:51:06.920 taxes at all. And then you look at somebody who 0:51:07.239 --> 0:51:09.840 is just getting by paying as much tax as possible. 0:51:10.360 --> 0:51:12.960 And you look at, for instance, the pandemic task Force 0:51:13.040 --> 0:51:15.040 that you created, and then you see Trump coming office 0:51:15.040 --> 0:51:17.000 and he shuts that down. And then you think to yourself, damn, 0:51:17.360 --> 0:51:19.200 if that task force was still around, with so many 0:51:19.200 --> 0:51:22.040 people have been dead, it's been killed, would we be 0:51:22.080 --> 0:51:24.520 able to save lives? We would have saved some lives. 0:51:25.960 --> 0:51:32.080 Here's one simple statistic. Canada, right right next door. Their 0:51:32.200 --> 0:51:37.040 death rate is forty percent of what oursists per capita. 0:51:37.320 --> 0:51:40.239 I don't you know, so for every help you know, 0:51:40.440 --> 0:51:44.759 one hundred Americans that have died, only forty Canadians have died, 0:51:45.320 --> 0:51:49.840 and that's just a matter of their government making better decisions. 0:51:50.520 --> 0:51:54.480 So the question, though, is is that you still had 0:51:54.520 --> 0:51:58.839 seventy billion people voting for a government that I would 0:51:58.960 --> 0:52:06.680 say objectively as failed miserably and handling this basic looking 0:52:06.760 --> 0:52:11.319 after the American people and keeping them safe. Why is that? Well, 0:52:12.000 --> 0:52:15.880 part of it is because you know, it turns out 0:52:15.960 --> 0:52:19.240 politics is not just about policy. It's not just about numbers. 0:52:19.960 --> 0:52:22.479 It's about the stories that are that are being told. 0:52:22.840 --> 0:52:26.560 And the story that they're hearing from Fox News and 0:52:26.640 --> 0:52:31.200 Rush Limbaugh and you know, in some cases inside their 0:52:31.280 --> 0:52:37.279 churches is that Democrats don't believe in Christmas, and you know, 0:52:38.760 --> 0:52:43.000 you only care about minorities and black folks and are 0:52:43.080 --> 0:52:45.200 trying to take your stuff and trying to take your 0:52:45.239 --> 0:52:48.640 guns away, and right there's a whole story that's being 0:52:48.760 --> 0:52:54.040 told to them, and people end up feeling as if 0:52:54.120 --> 0:52:56.960 you know, what we are under attack. That you know, 0:52:57.840 --> 0:53:01.200 what's always interesting to me is the degree of which 0:53:03.520 --> 0:53:08.680 we've created, you've seen created in Republican politics, the sense 0:53:09.000 --> 0:53:12.799 that white males are victims, like they're the ones who 0:53:12.840 --> 0:53:17.479 are like under attack, which obviously doesn't jibe with both 0:53:17.600 --> 0:53:22.720 history and data and economics. But that's a sincere belief, 0:53:23.080 --> 0:53:25.719 you know, that's been internalized. That's a story that's being told. 0:53:25.800 --> 0:53:29.200 And how you unwind that is going to be not 0:53:29.400 --> 0:53:32.600 something that is done right away. It's gonna take some time. 0:53:32.680 --> 0:53:35.600 Now we have more with Barack Obama. President Barack Obama. 0:53:35.680 --> 0:53:37.479 When we come back, it's the Breakfast Club Goal Morning. 0:53:37.480 --> 0:53:41.120 It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy. We are 0:53:41.160 --> 0:53:43.960 the Breakfast Club. Let's get into our interview with President 0:53:44.040 --> 0:53:46.800 Barack Obama. It's the Breakfast Club Goal Morning. But we 0:53:46.920 --> 0:53:49.960 heard some rulers in this book, how different because you know, 0:53:50.000 --> 0:53:51.800 when I hear that, I'm like and it feels like 0:53:51.840 --> 0:53:54.360 we're catering to white racists all the time. So I 0:53:54.440 --> 0:53:56.759 wonder how different would the DIM strategy be if we 0:53:56.920 --> 0:53:59.600 lived in a one man, one vote society. Would know 0:53:59.640 --> 0:54:02.600 electe oh, I think that would help. Must take a 0:54:02.680 --> 0:54:08.120 simple example like the Senate. So Wyoming, which has about 0:54:08.200 --> 0:54:11.840 half a million people, has the same number of senators 0:54:12.040 --> 0:54:17.719 as California with thirty three million people. Right, So what 0:54:17.920 --> 0:54:22.480 that means is is that the US Senate is hugely 0:54:22.600 --> 0:54:30.120 skewed towards some of these lower population, you know, more rural, 0:54:31.680 --> 0:54:37.640 much wider states than the big coastal states, and that's 0:54:37.680 --> 0:54:42.439 a that's a big difference in terms of getting stuff done. 0:54:44.440 --> 0:54:50.759 So so the bottom line is is that our democracy 0:54:50.920 --> 0:54:56.160 is imperfect. Changing that is going to take a lot 0:54:56.280 --> 0:54:58.319 of effort, because you've got to get over the hump, 0:54:58.600 --> 0:55:02.440 even even just to secure our voting rights. One of 0:55:02.520 --> 0:55:08.160 the things that you know is still at stake at 0:55:08.200 --> 0:55:13.040 Georgia is if we controlled the Senate, then it is 0:55:13.120 --> 0:55:19.759 at least theoretically possible to pass a voting rights bill 0:55:21.080 --> 0:55:25.800 that stops some of this voter suppression and intimidation that 0:55:25.840 --> 0:55:29.440 you're still seeing around the country, and that Republicans have 0:55:29.560 --> 0:55:32.480 been pretty blatant about just saying, look, we just we're 0:55:32.560 --> 0:55:35.920 trying to prevent them for voting. But getting to the 0:55:36.000 --> 0:55:40.320 electoral college, getting to the way that the US Senate 0:55:40.440 --> 0:55:44.680 is skewed, that would require us also potentially admitting Washington, 0:55:44.760 --> 0:55:48.759 DC and Puerto Rico in as states so that you know, 0:55:49.239 --> 0:55:52.520 which has its own politics. You know, it would mean 0:55:54.239 --> 0:56:01.279 having states change how they do their electoral count. Um. 0:56:01.719 --> 0:56:04.880 I think the Constitution is outdated, they got to get 0:56:04.960 --> 0:56:07.600 rid of that language. The way that that diverse the 0:56:07.640 --> 0:56:10.000 country is those people weren't at the table when they 0:56:10.080 --> 0:56:12.279 wrote the constitution. You're a constitutional lawyer, you gotta we 0:56:12.280 --> 0:56:15.120 gotta get well, there is a way to change it. 0:56:15.320 --> 0:56:20.200 It's called amending the constitution. The problem is that in 0:56:20.480 --> 0:56:24.000 order to do that, we have to have such an 0:56:24.320 --> 0:56:29.960 increase in awareness and activism. So there's a mechanism to 0:56:30.320 --> 0:56:33.080 amend the constitution, but you just have to get everybody 0:56:34.120 --> 0:56:38.560 involved and focused in it. And this is part of 0:56:38.600 --> 0:56:41.880 the reason. You know, folks have been teaching me about 0:56:41.920 --> 0:56:44.600 how you know, man, that's a long book, and you know, 0:56:44.920 --> 0:56:48.680 Michelle's was so much shorter. And you know, there were 0:56:48.760 --> 0:56:52.120 times where I was tempted to, you know, let me 0:56:52.200 --> 0:56:54.840 just leave out this explanation and that explanation because folks, 0:56:55.040 --> 0:56:58.640 you know, they're not gonna necessarily want to read all that. 0:56:59.360 --> 0:57:01.480 But part of what I wanted to do was just say, man, 0:57:02.239 --> 0:57:05.560 this is the stuff that we've got to know if 0:57:05.640 --> 0:57:07.960 we really want to change stuff, Like you have to 0:57:08.120 --> 0:57:12.600 know about the filibuster in the Senate. Right, So this 0:57:12.760 --> 0:57:14.800 is a rule that wasn't even in the Constitution. This 0:57:14.920 --> 0:57:19.640 is just a rule that the Senate adopted that says 0:57:20.760 --> 0:57:23.200 you have to have sixty votes to pass legislation, you 0:57:23.280 --> 0:57:27.840 have to have a supermajority. That even more empowers those 0:57:27.880 --> 0:57:30.320 little states, right because now they don't even need they 0:57:30.360 --> 0:57:37.240 don't even need fifty Senate votes. They just need forty 0:57:37.320 --> 0:57:41.919 one to basically block anything from getting through the Senate. 0:57:41.960 --> 0:57:43.919 That's what happened to me in my first two years 0:57:44.240 --> 0:57:47.520 was I was having to get to sixty votes on everything, 0:57:48.360 --> 0:57:51.200 which meant that the number of Senators that were basically 0:57:51.280 --> 0:57:55.040 representing twenty five percent of the country had a veto 0:57:55.120 --> 0:57:57.919 power over anything we want to try to get done. 0:57:59.720 --> 0:58:03.360 But most people don't know that. You know, if if 0:58:03.400 --> 0:58:07.320 you try to explain to the average brother in the 0:58:07.360 --> 0:58:11.720 barbershop man that filibuster, I just I just thought it 0:58:11.760 --> 0:58:14.120 when people talked for a long time. Yeah, well but 0:58:14.400 --> 0:58:19.080 I learned about But that thing is which, by the way, 0:58:19.520 --> 0:58:21.800 had its roots. You know, the thing that it was 0:58:21.920 --> 0:58:26.360 most used for was to block civil rights legislation and 0:58:26.720 --> 0:58:30.760 and anti lynching legislation, and that thing is still operating. 0:58:31.640 --> 0:58:35.800 We have to know how that stuff works in order 0:58:35.920 --> 0:58:38.400 for us if we really want the kind of changes 0:58:38.440 --> 0:58:42.400 you're talking about, where taking away some of these barriers 0:58:42.480 --> 0:58:46.880 to everybody having their voice heard in the government. President 0:58:46.920 --> 0:58:51.520 Obama has to go, guys, so and listen. Congratulations. One 0:58:51.560 --> 0:58:53.480 hundred ninety thousand sold in the first day, which is 0:58:53.520 --> 0:58:55.400 breaking all kinds of records. So it just shows the 0:58:55.480 --> 0:58:58.400 power that you still have. You got a little name 0:58:58.440 --> 0:59:00.760 out here. First of all, I think it's because it 0:59:00.920 --> 0:59:05.280 was packaged with Michelle's book, so you know, and uh, 0:59:05.880 --> 0:59:08.600 but I appreciate you guys. You know, you talked about 0:59:09.400 --> 0:59:14.400 black folks and how they talked about or thought about 0:59:14.480 --> 0:59:19.479 my presidency. I will say, even at our lowest point, 0:59:19.960 --> 0:59:24.320 the amount of loyalty and folks having our back, knowing 0:59:25.320 --> 0:59:29.960 you know that we were going through some you know, challenges, UM. 0:59:31.720 --> 0:59:36.560 The prayer that we got, the you know, the blessings 0:59:36.640 --> 0:59:40.200 we received from our own um that that is as 0:59:40.320 --> 0:59:44.080 much as anything, what helped sustain us. It is something 0:59:44.160 --> 0:59:46.320 we never took for granted and we were always grateful. 0:59:46.360 --> 0:59:48.680 So So what one of last question, what through Democrats 0:59:48.720 --> 0:59:52.360 old black people specifically do you think, especially afterward we 0:59:52.440 --> 0:59:54.760 just did in this past election. Well, I look, I 0:59:55.200 --> 1:00:04.400 think that Democrats and Republicans and America old black folks 1:00:04.480 --> 1:00:06.680 the same thing that all people are o which is 1:00:06.760 --> 1:00:11.560 justice and fairness. The differences is that for Black folks 1:00:12.240 --> 1:00:15.880 that justice has been deferred and denied for too long, 1:00:16.120 --> 1:00:23.760 or it's been half baked and insufficient. We've never done 1:00:23.760 --> 1:00:31.680 a full reckoning of what was part of the essential 1:00:32.760 --> 1:00:37.480 history and building of this country. And I think in 1:00:38.000 --> 1:00:43.600 concrete terms, you know, I don't want to overstate what 1:00:43.800 --> 1:00:45.800 Joe and Kamala are going to be able to accomplish 1:00:46.680 --> 1:00:51.160 in this congressional environment with that much resistance, because they're 1:00:51.200 --> 1:00:54.440 going to be in a position that was even that's 1:00:54.480 --> 1:00:56.480 probably even tougher than the one that I came in. 1:00:57.400 --> 1:01:01.320 But what I can say is, I think at the 1:01:01.520 --> 1:01:06.680 very minimum, everything they put forward, from jobs programs to 1:01:06.800 --> 1:01:13.960 small business loans to education to college debt issues, that 1:01:14.120 --> 1:01:18.960 they have to be mindful that the African American community 1:01:20.360 --> 1:01:24.680 put faith in them, to hear them and to understand 1:01:26.440 --> 1:01:31.080 what ordinary folks are going through every day, working hard, 1:01:31.160 --> 1:01:34.000 trying to make it and that and that they shouldn't 1:01:34.000 --> 1:01:37.280 be making a decision without knowing, all right, this is 1:01:37.320 --> 1:01:41.800 going to have an impact on some of those struggles 1:01:41.880 --> 1:01:46.840 to make make people and their families a little more secure, 1:01:47.120 --> 1:01:49.280 a little bit better. It's not going to make things perfect. 1:01:50.600 --> 1:01:53.840 But if if at the end of Joe Biden's presidency 1:01:53.960 --> 1:01:56.240 and Commons presidency, he too can say what I was 1:01:56.320 --> 1:02:00.160 able to say, which is people's lives are better. You know, 1:02:00.240 --> 1:02:01.720 at the end of the day, that's what you expect 1:02:01.800 --> 1:02:04.400 out of politicians. They're a morally correct way to do 1:02:04.480 --> 1:02:07.440 what Trump did, which is as far as like you know, 1:02:08.080 --> 1:02:10.680 catering to his base, you know, doing what he felt 1:02:10.760 --> 1:02:13.200 was best for his folks. They are morally correct way 1:02:13.200 --> 1:02:16.280 to do that get more votes. I mean, the truth 1:02:16.320 --> 1:02:18.320 of the batter has actually Trump hasn't gotten a lot. 1:02:18.400 --> 1:02:21.919 He's torn some stuff down, he hasn't There's no law 1:02:22.040 --> 1:02:25.440 that he's passed that is transformative in this country. He 1:02:26.160 --> 1:02:28.560 passed the task cut to give away some more money 1:02:28.600 --> 1:02:32.160 to rich folks, which publican has been doing that for years. 1:02:33.400 --> 1:02:37.320 But you can't name a piece of legislation that he's 1:02:37.320 --> 1:02:39.920 done that has actually changed the country, even for his 1:02:40.000 --> 1:02:43.800 own constituencies. So it's always easier to tear down than 1:02:43.880 --> 1:02:49.920 build up. Building up that requires votes, And that's why 1:02:50.200 --> 1:02:54.439 I do not I will come on this show every 1:02:54.560 --> 1:02:59.480 time if I hear folks say voting doesn't matter. Yeah, 1:02:59.720 --> 1:03:03.160 vote will not. It's not like winning the lottery. You 1:03:03.240 --> 1:03:06.080 don't you don't vote, and then suddenly everything is great. 1:03:07.320 --> 1:03:13.320 Voting is more like you know, washing your car or 1:03:14.640 --> 1:03:17.480 iron in your clothes. It's part of the thing you 1:03:17.680 --> 1:03:22.680 do to make stuff work and and it's part of 1:03:22.760 --> 1:03:26.320 your responsibility and as part of all of our responsibility, 1:03:26.440 --> 1:03:29.360 just to make sure that we don't see chaos of 1:03:29.480 --> 1:03:31.560 the sort that we've just seen over the last four years. 1:03:32.520 --> 1:03:34.640 All right, guess well, we appreciate you for joining us. 1:03:34.760 --> 1:03:38.200 President Barack Obama, thank you, thank you so much, Thank 1:03:38.240 --> 1:03:42.520 you so much. You know, I feel pretty good. All right. 1:03:43.360 --> 1:03:45.680 Make sure you're telling to watch out for Florida order 1:03:47.760 --> 1:03:50.120 she creates people in America come from the Bronx in 1:03:50.360 --> 1:03:55.480 all of Florida. Yes, you are a donkey, a Florida man, 1:03:55.640 --> 1:03:58.400 a chap and at n for a very strange reason. 1:03:58.520 --> 1:04:00.800 It gave him too much money. 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Not knocking anyone who does it, but 1:04:35.800 --> 1:04:39.160 I couldn't see myself on Elitch, singles, e Harmony, black People, 1:04:39.240 --> 1:04:42.480 meet match dot Com. Our guy drown Moss Puerto Rican 1:04:42.520 --> 1:04:44.840 and runs all boards up here. He's on Latin Fields 1:04:44.960 --> 1:04:48.240 under the user name called Quito Poppy. Look him up. Okay, 1:04:50.000 --> 1:04:52.400 but none of that stuff is for me. The way 1:04:52.480 --> 1:04:54.640 my anxiety is set up, I couldn't just meet a 1:04:54.720 --> 1:04:57.520 complete scranger online, a person who can tell me anything 1:04:57.600 --> 1:04:59.760 they want about themselves and none of it be true, 1:05:00.000 --> 1:05:02.880 and then you show up get robbed, killed, catfished. I'm 1:05:02.920 --> 1:05:05.480 not judging anybody who does the dating singles thing. I'm 1:05:05.520 --> 1:05:08.600 just simply saying it's not for me. It's like skydiving. 1:05:08.680 --> 1:05:11.600 It's like bungee jumping. It's like being uncircumcised. Not knocking 1:05:11.640 --> 1:05:13.960 any of y'all that dude, I got those things, Just 1:05:14.080 --> 1:05:16.880 telling you that's not my thing. Now. Vanessa Marie Huckaba 1:05:17.160 --> 1:05:19.640 has the dating profile set up under the name island 1:05:19.720 --> 1:05:22.960 Babe one two three four. Does that name not look 1:05:23.040 --> 1:05:26.160 in sound fake? Okay? See what I'm saying, Island Babe 1:05:26.200 --> 1:05:28.120 one two three four. How could you take a profile 1:05:28.200 --> 1:05:31.120 page on a dating website? Serious? That says Island Babe 1:05:31.160 --> 1:05:33.560 one two three four. It sounds and looks like a 1:05:33.640 --> 1:05:35.720 Russian bot when you see it now. According to the 1:05:35.800 --> 1:05:39.840 Miami Herald, she included a name, photo, cell phone number, 1:05:39.920 --> 1:05:43.439 and address. But here's the Catchwell, actually it is no catch. 1:05:43.520 --> 1:05:46.000 This dating profile is exactly what it sounds like. Fake. 1:05:46.200 --> 1:05:49.280 But I tell you what, this one is fake for 1:05:49.480 --> 1:05:53.920 a great humorous but sit costs. Okay, see Vanessa, she 1:05:54.000 --> 1:05:55.919 should actually be the new hosts of Punks. I don't 1:05:55.960 --> 1:05:58.080 condone what I'm about to tell you she did. But 1:05:58.360 --> 1:06:01.640 man isn't entertaining to watch, Steve. Vanessa is a classic 1:06:01.760 --> 1:06:03.960 case of the X oh. A lot of y'all out 1:06:04.000 --> 1:06:06.840 there got a crazy x that's stalking your ass right now. 1:06:06.960 --> 1:06:10.000 That is upset that you have moved on to another relationship. 1:06:10.200 --> 1:06:12.760 Vanessa is one of the olds. Okay, see this dating 1:06:12.800 --> 1:06:16.480 profile she set up that included a name, photo, cell 1:06:16.560 --> 1:06:19.560 phone number, and address. It wasn't hers. In fact, it 1:06:19.800 --> 1:06:25.000 was the woman her ex boyfriend is currently dating. But 1:06:25.200 --> 1:06:28.360 the story gets much much better because it wasn't her 1:06:28.400 --> 1:06:30.560 milkshake that brought all the boys to the yard. New 1:06:30.840 --> 1:06:33.200 not in Florida and Florida you need something a little 1:06:33.240 --> 1:06:36.320 stronger than milkshakes to bring boys to the yard. Let's 1:06:36.320 --> 1:06:38.080 go to the Miami Herald for the report police. A 1:06:38.200 --> 1:06:40.960 Florida keys woman was jail on a cyberstock in charge 1:06:41.000 --> 1:06:43.320 after a police said she posted a fake profile on 1:06:43.400 --> 1:06:46.000 a dating site that sent strangers to another woman's home 1:06:46.040 --> 1:06:49.600 looking for sex. Freshman tonight. All right, stop stop right 1:06:49.640 --> 1:06:51.720 there for a second. Stop right there for a second, 1:06:51.840 --> 1:06:55.240 because there are conflicting reports. The Miami Herald is saying 1:06:55.320 --> 1:06:59.480 Vanessa posted the headline free meth tonight. But in the 1:06:59.520 --> 1:07:02.840 news report what we just heard, they say fresh meth tonight. 1:07:03.520 --> 1:07:06.520 Either way island Bay one two three four, got meth? 1:07:06.920 --> 1:07:09.840 That's right, Speed cookies, cotton candy whatever you call it. 1:07:10.000 --> 1:07:13.080 But Nessa had cranking cheeks and in Florida, it doesn't 1:07:13.120 --> 1:07:16.160 matter if you advertise, and fresh, cranking free cheeks are 1:07:16.240 --> 1:07:19.160 free cranking fresh cheeks. Folks is pulling up even though 1:07:19.160 --> 1:07:21.400 I don't know you know how fresh we expect the 1:07:21.480 --> 1:07:22.920 cheeks to be from a meth head in Florida. I 1:07:22.960 --> 1:07:24.560 mean it's hot down then that pooky. Have you not 1:07:24.640 --> 1:07:26.280 washing for day? But forget all that. Continue with the 1:07:26.320 --> 1:07:30.320 news report. Vanessa Marie Hukaba twenty nine, was arrested November 1:07:30.360 --> 1:07:34.200 twenty first on misdemeanor charges of cyberstocking and harassing. Hukaba 1:07:34.280 --> 1:07:37.320 in October and November sent threatening messages and made harassing 1:07:37.400 --> 1:07:39.600 phone calls to a thirty six year old Key West 1:07:39.640 --> 1:07:42.320 woman who was dating her ex. The victim told police 1:07:42.360 --> 1:07:44.680 she has never met Hukkaba and began getting the threats 1:07:44.720 --> 1:07:47.080 after she started dating a man Hukaba had dated for 1:07:47.200 --> 1:07:49.600 six months. Hukaba told the victim she would need to 1:07:49.640 --> 1:07:52.240 get a restraining order. Hukaba's next move was to put 1:07:52.320 --> 1:07:54.720 up a profile under the name Island Babe twelve thirty 1:07:54.760 --> 1:07:57.800 four on Seeking Arrangement, which advertises it helps pair women 1:07:57.840 --> 1:08:01.160 with sugar daddies along with a victim's photo, cell phone number, 1:08:01.200 --> 1:08:03.720 and address. The profile invited men to come to the 1:08:03.800 --> 1:08:07.080 victim's home for sex. Multiple strangers began arriving at the 1:08:07.160 --> 1:08:10.680 victims thereafter. I'm giving this woman donkey to day. But 1:08:10.800 --> 1:08:13.640 that's say you're getting donkey today because you absolutely deserve it. Okay. 1:08:13.680 --> 1:08:16.400 A person's home is their sanctuary, it's their castle. It 1:08:16.439 --> 1:08:18.080 should be their place of peace. To have a bunch 1:08:18.120 --> 1:08:21.960 of Floridians pulling up during a devil damn pandemic, when 1:08:22.000 --> 1:08:24.439 Folks is supposed to be social distancing, you got all 1:08:24.479 --> 1:08:27.040 these meth heads showing up to this young woman's house 1:08:27.240 --> 1:08:30.320 looking for cranking cheeks. You're lucky that woman didn't stay 1:08:30.320 --> 1:08:32.840 in her ground and let her goddamn gun blam. Okay, 1:08:32.880 --> 1:08:35.519 so you are earning every bit of this he hall 1:08:36.760 --> 1:08:42.800 but ron of applause, Vanessa, amazing, amazing idea. Right, this 1:08:43.040 --> 1:08:45.920 is an amazing idea. You gotta beef with another human. 1:08:46.200 --> 1:08:48.759 You're mad at this lady because she's your ex boyfriend, 1:08:48.880 --> 1:08:52.880 so you advertise free meth and sex at her house 1:08:53.240 --> 1:08:56.760 in Florida. There is nothing that can bring holiday joy 1:08:56.880 --> 1:08:59.479 to a white Florida man's heart like the thought of 1:08:59.600 --> 1:09:03.120 tweets getting tricking. Okay, only a human with a Florida 1:09:03.160 --> 1:09:06.599 brain could concoct and execute something like this. And Vanessa, 1:09:06.680 --> 1:09:10.080 even though I am highly entertained, it will not stop 1:09:10.160 --> 1:09:11.839 me from giving you the sweet sound of the hammertones. 1:09:12.200 --> 1:09:24.439 Oh no, you are dogee the day, dogee, oh the day. 1:09:25.520 --> 1:09:33.800 Guess sweezy? All right? I mean, would you like to 1:09:33.960 --> 1:09:39.439 just for pieces and let's do it? Let's do it? Okay? Uh, well, 1:09:39.680 --> 1:09:45.360 let's play a game up Johns. What racing? All right, guys? 1:09:46.160 --> 1:09:52.080 Vanessa Marie Huckaba Huckaba, Okay, she's from Florida, Florida. She 1:09:52.320 --> 1:09:56.960 set up a fake profile for a woman, Okay, a 1:09:57.040 --> 1:09:58.960 woman I was dating her ex boyfriend and she was 1:09:58.960 --> 1:10:05.160 advertising free meth in sex. Guess what race you go first? 1:10:06.400 --> 1:10:08.640 I would have to say Caucasian, just because of the 1:10:08.720 --> 1:10:15.240 crystal meth. I was thinking Latino, because no, you weren't. 1:10:15.320 --> 1:10:22.800 Now I was thinking white. Oh, I gotta say what 1:10:22.880 --> 1:10:30.720 it is? White? I know it all right, White with 1:10:30.920 --> 1:10:37.559 yellow teeth set Okay, white with the yellowest teeth you've 1:10:37.560 --> 1:10:40.439 ever seen in your goddamn life. All right, you see, 1:10:40.680 --> 1:10:47.720 smile and you slow down, okay, driving Charlagne, thank you 1:10:47.720 --> 1:10:50.120 for that Donkey to day. Yes, indeed, goddamn it. We're 1:10:50.160 --> 1:10:52.280 playing some of the best best stuffs. And one of 1:10:52.320 --> 1:10:54.960 them was when Kamala Harris stopped through the first interview 1:10:55.040 --> 1:10:58.120 that she actually came before she was running for president, 1:10:58.640 --> 1:11:02.400 and writers was, um, this was twenty eighteen, maybe in 1:11:02.479 --> 1:11:05.599 twenty and seventeen, I don't remember twenty seventeen or twenty eighteen, 1:11:05.800 --> 1:11:08.160 and like just she was just sending to California, right, 1:11:08.280 --> 1:11:10.080 you know what I mean. And we actually talked about 1:11:10.120 --> 1:11:13.120 her running for president and you know, she ran. It 1:11:13.160 --> 1:11:14.679 didn't work out. We she ended up being the Madame 1:11:14.720 --> 1:11:17.519 Vife president. So yeah, okay, so we're gonna get that 1:11:17.600 --> 1:11:19.320 back in a few so don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. 1:11:19.320 --> 1:11:23.320 Good Morning, Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. 1:11:23.880 --> 1:11:28.160 Hiring is challenging, but you're checking out the world's most 1:11:28.200 --> 1:11:32.519 dangerous morning show. Morning Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, 1:11:32.600 --> 1:11:36.160 Sharlowgnea guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now it's Martin 1:11:36.200 --> 1:11:38.280 Luther King Day. We're gonna get back out interview with 1:11:38.640 --> 1:11:41.120 Kamala Harris. This was the first time that she actually 1:11:41.240 --> 1:11:43.040 stopped through. So we're gonna get that on. It's to 1:11:43.080 --> 1:11:46.400 breakfast and and by the way, having been back since, 1:11:47.320 --> 1:11:49.760 I mean she's been here three times, right, Kamala came 1:11:49.800 --> 1:11:53.400 here in twenty eighteen, she came here um again when 1:11:53.439 --> 1:11:55.680 she was running for president, and another time when she 1:11:55.720 --> 1:11:57.880 was running for president. She hasn't been here since she's 1:11:57.880 --> 1:12:01.599 been Madam vice president. Right to get pissed off about that, okay, 1:12:02.120 --> 1:12:04.760 but so we just sending the Kamala Harris. Hopefully we'll 1:12:04.800 --> 1:12:06.360 talk to you soon. All right, don't move. It's to 1:12:06.360 --> 1:12:08.680 breakfast club. Good morning. We have a special guest in 1:12:08.720 --> 1:12:10.680 the building. Yes, she went to the other h you, 1:12:16.800 --> 1:12:20.920 but we got a slide this morning. Kamala Harris, US, 1:12:21.000 --> 1:12:24.040 Senator of California field the next president of the United 1:12:24.080 --> 1:12:29.800 States of America. The run, Miss Kamala. Good boy, I 1:12:29.880 --> 1:12:33.280 am so happy and honored to be here. You're gonna listen. 1:12:33.320 --> 1:12:35.920 Let him just Howard like absolutely not so who beat 1:12:36.000 --> 1:12:39.400 you an ALV Hampton or Howard? It was Howard? Thank you? 1:12:41.320 --> 1:12:46.080 Who has the best homecoming in the world every year? Hampton? 1:12:46.479 --> 1:12:53.200 Howard Hampton, who produced third Goood Marshall. Howard, Howard, You 1:12:53.280 --> 1:12:56.000 got a couple of out who produced the Black Panther. 1:12:57.360 --> 1:13:00.120 We did, you know, we did the costume. You know, 1:13:00.520 --> 1:13:02.760 you know we did the coso for black pot with you, 1:13:02.800 --> 1:13:05.320 I'm gonna share the little I didn't go to college, 1:13:05.680 --> 1:13:07.280 but if I was, you out to say, well, who 1:13:07.439 --> 1:13:15.920 was stealing from the financial department? All got bad food 1:13:15.960 --> 1:13:21.800 over that slide? Were welcome? Yes here, not for those 1:13:21.840 --> 1:13:24.040 who may not know. Let us know a little about yourself. 1:13:24.080 --> 1:13:26.160 You're from the big area, right. I was born in Oakland, 1:13:26.240 --> 1:13:30.880 okay Um, and I went to Howard. I went out 1:13:30.920 --> 1:13:34.040 of Howard to law school in California. I started my 1:13:34.200 --> 1:13:38.439 career in the DA's office in Oakland, California, and then 1:13:38.479 --> 1:13:40.799 I was elected the first black woman to be elected 1:13:41.000 --> 1:13:43.960 a district attorney in the state of California in San Francisco. 1:13:44.400 --> 1:13:46.439 I was there for two terms, and then I was 1:13:46.520 --> 1:13:49.719 elected Attorney General of California, making me the first woman 1:13:50.160 --> 1:13:53.000 and the first African American ever elected as an attorney channel. 1:13:59.040 --> 1:14:01.400 So did you grow up an a black Panthers. Yes, 1:14:02.240 --> 1:14:05.360 the influence on you are oh absolutely. I mean my parents, 1:14:05.840 --> 1:14:07.639 look my sister and I joke. We grew up surrounded 1:14:07.680 --> 1:14:09.439 by a bunch of adults. We spent full time marching 1:14:09.439 --> 1:14:12.439 and shouting Wow, justice right. So they my parents actually 1:14:12.439 --> 1:14:14.040 met when they were active in the civil rights movement. 1:14:14.400 --> 1:14:17.799 My godmother, my aunt Mary, was one of the founders 1:14:17.840 --> 1:14:20.240 of the Black Studies department at San Francisco State, which 1:14:20.320 --> 1:14:23.080 was the first black studies department in the country. So 1:14:23.240 --> 1:14:26.680 they were active and they were vocal and aking and 1:14:26.800 --> 1:14:29.320 civil rights activists. I'm surprised you got inside boys. Yeah, 1:14:31.880 --> 1:14:36.720 Howard trains you to do things like that, But what 1:14:36.920 --> 1:14:39.160 got you into politics? Because you did go to Howard 1:14:39.200 --> 1:14:45.240 that's a party school, So we figured you, really, what 1:14:45.400 --> 1:14:47.439 got you into politics? What made you want to say 1:14:47.560 --> 1:14:49.120 this is the route I want to go? You know, 1:14:49.240 --> 1:14:51.160 I grew up in a community of folks, like I said, 1:14:51.200 --> 1:14:53.639 who are marching and shouting? And I said, you know, yes, 1:14:53.800 --> 1:14:56.720 there is an important role to play on the outside, 1:14:57.120 --> 1:14:59.640 banging down the door, on bend to knee, trying to 1:14:59.720 --> 1:15:01.759 change the systems. But we also have to be inside 1:15:01.760 --> 1:15:04.680 the room where the decisions are being made. And I 1:15:04.880 --> 1:15:07.760 ran for district attorney because I wanted to be the 1:15:07.840 --> 1:15:09.960 one who was making decisions about what we were going 1:15:10.040 --> 1:15:12.760 to do with criminal justice policy. And in fact, I 1:15:12.840 --> 1:15:14.679 wrote a book back in two thousand and eight based 1:15:14.720 --> 1:15:16.200 on my belief about what we need to do to 1:15:16.280 --> 1:15:18.439 reform the criminal justice system. In here and here's how 1:15:18.479 --> 1:15:21.240 I think about it. Criminal justice policy. We have been 1:15:21.320 --> 1:15:24.160 offered a false choice, the choice suggesting that you're either 1:15:24.240 --> 1:15:27.240 soft on crime or you're tough on crime, instead of 1:15:27.320 --> 1:15:30.600 asking are we smart on crime? Right? And by that 1:15:30.840 --> 1:15:34.400 I mean recognizing that, you know, the public health model 1:15:34.439 --> 1:15:37.160 tells us if you want to deal with a health epidemic, smartest, 1:15:37.200 --> 1:15:39.080 most effective, and cheapest way to deal with it is 1:15:39.160 --> 1:15:42.280 prevention first. If you're dealing with it in the emergency 1:15:42.400 --> 1:15:44.640 room or the prison system, it's too late and it's 1:15:44.680 --> 1:15:47.280 too expensive. So let's be smart on crime. And that 1:15:47.439 --> 1:15:50.639 means let's be smart in knowing that if we really 1:15:50.760 --> 1:15:54.120 want to have public safety, let's prevent crime from happening 1:15:54.160 --> 1:15:57.880 in the first place, which means focusing on communities that 1:15:58.000 --> 1:16:01.960 we know need more economics, need more pathways to economic 1:16:02.080 --> 1:16:04.479 health and success, doing what we need to do to 1:16:04.560 --> 1:16:07.719 recognize that there is a direct connection between public education 1:16:07.760 --> 1:16:12.519 and public safety. So let's prioritize public education. And instead 1:16:12.520 --> 1:16:15.800 of just being only concerned about public safety because there's 1:16:15.800 --> 1:16:18.680 a real connection, and it's actually cheaper to focus on 1:16:18.920 --> 1:16:23.120 educating young people than it is on incarcerating whole communities 1:16:23.160 --> 1:16:25.320 of people. Yeah, that's one of the first things I 1:16:25.400 --> 1:16:27.160 saw you do that I was extremely impressed with. If 1:16:27.200 --> 1:16:30.360 it was the Back on Track program, that's right, what's 1:16:30.400 --> 1:16:32.759 that all about? So Back on Track is a program 1:16:32.840 --> 1:16:36.879 that I started years ago. I focused on the eighteenth 1:16:36.880 --> 1:16:40.759 through twenty four year old young you know, drug sales offender. 1:16:41.320 --> 1:16:43.240 And the reason I focused on that population is because 1:16:43.280 --> 1:16:45.439 they're just a lot of them. And I also focused 1:16:45.479 --> 1:16:48.400 on that population because whether we were at Hampton or 1:16:48.479 --> 1:16:50.880 Howard when we were in college, we were eighteen through 1:16:50.960 --> 1:16:55.200 twenty four and we were called college kids. But when 1:16:55.240 --> 1:16:57.879 you turn eighteen and you're in the system, you're considered 1:16:57.920 --> 1:17:01.640 an adult, period, regardless of the fact that we know 1:17:02.520 --> 1:17:04.760 that's the very phase of life in which we have 1:17:04.880 --> 1:17:07.439 invested billions of dollars in this world, in these places 1:17:07.479 --> 1:17:10.760 called colleges and universities, knowing that that's the prime phase 1:17:10.800 --> 1:17:14.200 of life where you can mold somebody to be a productive, 1:17:14.720 --> 1:17:19.720 an accomplished adult. And so I focused on that population 1:17:19.880 --> 1:17:23.639 also understanding that when they pick up that first offense 1:17:24.280 --> 1:17:28.439 they will be designated a felon for life. And so 1:17:28.600 --> 1:17:31.240 what we did is essentially I created a program focused 1:17:31.280 --> 1:17:34.760 on them and basically getting them job counseling. A lot 1:17:34.840 --> 1:17:37.720 of the young men are fathers, getting them support for 1:17:37.840 --> 1:17:40.080 what they naturally want to do, which is parent their children, 1:17:40.120 --> 1:17:42.600 but may not have the skills or the resources. We 1:17:42.720 --> 1:17:45.000 focused on what to do around housing and a just 1:17:45.080 --> 1:17:48.320 wrap around, and we ended up as a result of 1:17:48.479 --> 1:17:50.679 doing that and then when they would graduate the program, 1:17:50.760 --> 1:17:53.720 dismiss their charges. But what we also ended up doing 1:17:53.880 --> 1:17:57.800 is reducing their likelihood of reoffending by a huge percentage. 1:17:58.439 --> 1:18:01.439 And that was a model of what ended up later 1:18:01.560 --> 1:18:04.680 by the Justice Department being designated as a model of 1:18:05.200 --> 1:18:07.680 innovation and law enforcement in the country. What do we 1:18:07.760 --> 1:18:10.360 do with so many with drugs being legalized, I should say, 1:18:10.360 --> 1:18:12.560 marijuana being legalized in so many different states, and a 1:18:12.640 --> 1:18:14.880 lot of these kids, like you said, are in jail 1:18:14.960 --> 1:18:19.400 for that same legalized crime. Now we need to decriminalize marijuana. 1:18:20.600 --> 1:18:23.240 We have a problem with the mass incarceration in our country. 1:18:23.840 --> 1:18:26.880 And let's be clear, the War on drugs was a 1:18:27.200 --> 1:18:31.880 failed war. It was misdirected in essence, and you know, 1:18:31.960 --> 1:18:34.800 we're now now more people are understanding when we talk 1:18:34.800 --> 1:18:38.760 about the opioid epidemic that when you're talking about substancies, 1:18:38.800 --> 1:18:41.000 that's a public health matter that should not be thought 1:18:41.040 --> 1:18:44.000 of as a criminal justice matter. And so what we 1:18:44.120 --> 1:18:46.040 need to do is recognize that we have to get 1:18:46.080 --> 1:18:48.760 people into treatment where that is appropriate. But as it 1:18:48.840 --> 1:18:52.519 relates to incarcerating people from marijuana, I think it is 1:18:53.160 --> 1:18:56.559 long overdue that we recognize we need to change the system. Absolutely. 1:18:57.040 --> 1:18:58.280 I want to go back to the Oakland days for 1:18:58.280 --> 1:18:59.960 a minute, because you said the Black Panthers had an 1:19:00.040 --> 1:19:02.120 influence on you, and it's this whole conversation we've been 1:19:02.160 --> 1:19:05.640 having about how do we improve relations between police and 1:19:05.720 --> 1:19:08.240 the communities, and Black Panthers were an organization that actually 1:19:08.280 --> 1:19:11.200 policed the police. Do you think that an organization like 1:19:11.280 --> 1:19:14.320 that could exist now in twenty eighteen. I think that 1:19:15.000 --> 1:19:18.360 one of the greatest advances in the fight for civil 1:19:18.479 --> 1:19:23.640 rights has been the smartphone. Oh okay. People would come 1:19:23.720 --> 1:19:25.439 up to me coma, what all of a sudden is 1:19:25.479 --> 1:19:30.080 going on with all these cases of police misconduct? What's 1:19:30.120 --> 1:19:32.760 going on? And I'd look at people and say, you know, 1:19:32.840 --> 1:19:35.960 you sound like a colonist. You know, are you calling 1:19:36.040 --> 1:19:42.760 him a right, right, right, right, fair enough, But the 1:19:42.880 --> 1:19:45.320 point being, you know what colonists do. They go to 1:19:45.439 --> 1:19:48.120 a place that's been existing that way for thousands of years, 1:19:48.160 --> 1:19:49.680 and because they're seeing it for the first time, they 1:19:49.720 --> 1:19:55.480 think they've discovered. So the great thing about the smartphone 1:19:55.760 --> 1:19:59.759 has been that now it is undeniable. When it happens, 1:20:00.000 --> 1:20:03.679 there is evidence sometimes playing for us in real time 1:20:03.920 --> 1:20:06.200 as we know. It is audio, it is visual, and 1:20:06.320 --> 1:20:10.000 it is highlighting a need to reform the criminal justice 1:20:10.000 --> 1:20:13.360 system about around recognizing that we need to do a 1:20:13.439 --> 1:20:17.519 better job of training police officers, around bias, around use 1:20:17.600 --> 1:20:21.240 of force, around the necessity to de escalate a situation 1:20:21.360 --> 1:20:25.680 instead of using force as the first option as though 1:20:25.720 --> 1:20:29.120 it is the only option. And more people are now 1:20:29.800 --> 1:20:32.760 involved in this discussion than ever before because it is 1:20:32.840 --> 1:20:35.840 not just us who is experiencing it. Now everyone is 1:20:35.920 --> 1:20:39.040 experiencing it, at least in terms of seeing it happen. 1:20:39.520 --> 1:20:42.439 And I think this is part of what has led 1:20:42.560 --> 1:20:45.280 to the reforms that are starting to take place. But 1:20:45.320 --> 1:20:47.639 there's still a lot more to do. On the Panthers, Remember, 1:20:48.160 --> 1:20:51.880 one of the biggest contributions that the Panthers made was 1:20:51.920 --> 1:20:56.360 their breakfast program. Absolutely, they were feeding the community and 1:20:56.479 --> 1:20:59.120 protecting the community in that way. We have more. We 1:20:59.200 --> 1:21:01.400 send it a come Harris, when we come back, don't move. 1:21:01.439 --> 1:21:09.240 It's to Breakfast Club. Good morning voting. Everybody is DJ Envy, 1:21:09.439 --> 1:21:12.599 Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the breakfast Club. 1:21:12.880 --> 1:21:15.280 We have Kamala Harris in the building. But let's talk 1:21:15.280 --> 1:21:18.439 about these schools and these shootings. I mean it's scary. Well, 1:21:18.640 --> 1:21:22.200 first of all, you know, we have many, many communities 1:21:22.360 --> 1:21:24.479 where our six and seven year olds are going to 1:21:24.520 --> 1:21:28.000 sleep at night here in gunfire. Absolutely, they are experiencing 1:21:28.960 --> 1:21:33.120 such trauma that is undiagnosed and untreated. Babies of our 1:21:33.200 --> 1:21:37.800 community who have regularly attended funerals of somebody who was 1:21:37.920 --> 1:21:40.880 killed as a result of gun violence, having family members, 1:21:41.080 --> 1:21:43.519 it may have even happened in front of them. So 1:21:43.800 --> 1:21:47.320 we have enough trauma in our community that we need 1:21:47.360 --> 1:21:52.000 to deal with. Without expecting that our second grader is 1:21:52.000 --> 1:21:53.800 going to now go to school and look up in 1:21:53.840 --> 1:21:55.400 the front of the class that their teacher and she's 1:21:55.400 --> 1:22:00.559 strapping a gun. That doesn't make any sense. We're talking 1:22:00.600 --> 1:22:03.519 about school safety. There are things that we need to 1:22:03.600 --> 1:22:07.840 address that include thinking about why is this an issue? 1:22:07.880 --> 1:22:10.839 And part of it is that we have not passed 1:22:11.400 --> 1:22:15.800 meaningful smart gun safety laws in this country. Let's talk 1:22:15.840 --> 1:22:20.040 about that. Let's talk about how the NRA has grabbed 1:22:20.120 --> 1:22:33.639 people by that they're the body and and has has 1:22:33.800 --> 1:22:36.840 has caused people to have a lack of courage to 1:22:37.000 --> 1:22:40.200 address the fact. Again, another false choice. I'm in favor 1:22:40.240 --> 1:22:43.160 of the Second Amendment, and I also want I want 1:22:43.200 --> 1:22:46.080 smart gun safety laws. Assault weapons shouldn't be walking the 1:22:46.160 --> 1:22:50.080 streets of a civilized country. We should have universal background checks. 1:22:50.280 --> 1:22:52.960 It makes sense. It's just practical that you might want 1:22:53.000 --> 1:22:55.800 to know before someone can buy a gun that they've 1:22:55.840 --> 1:22:58.160 been found by a court to be mentally unstable. You 1:22:58.360 --> 1:23:00.799 just might want to know that that's smart, aren't absolutely 1:23:01.120 --> 1:23:05.519 The missing ingredient to get something done is for Congress 1:23:06.120 --> 1:23:09.439 to have the courage to act, bottom line. And that's 1:23:09.479 --> 1:23:11.640 where I would say, Okay, so then what can we 1:23:11.760 --> 1:23:14.439 as people who want to encourage Congress to act do? 1:23:14.600 --> 1:23:17.439 What can we do? Let's focus on the twenty eighteen elections. 1:23:18.280 --> 1:23:21.960 Let's focus on electing people who will have the courage 1:23:22.760 --> 1:23:25.479 and getting rid of people who don't. Well, you know, 1:23:25.600 --> 1:23:28.439 even with that said, you know when everybody saw the 1:23:28.479 --> 1:23:31.960 police shootings happening. Barack Obama was in office, Why didn't 1:23:32.000 --> 1:23:34.560 he have the courage to act to implement something to 1:23:34.640 --> 1:23:38.320 where police weren't so gun hole. Well, I think that 1:23:38.760 --> 1:23:40.680 it's one of his big regrets that he was not 1:23:40.840 --> 1:23:44.240 able to get smart gun safety laws passed. In terms 1:23:44.280 --> 1:23:48.800 of the reforms, listen, Eric Holder, who was appointed by 1:23:48.840 --> 1:23:53.640 Barack Obama to be the US Attorney General and the 1:23:53.800 --> 1:23:56.840 United States Department of Justice under Barack Obama did some 1:23:57.120 --> 1:24:01.240 really good work. They started opening pattern and practice investigations, 1:24:01.840 --> 1:24:05.120 investigating various police departments around the country who had a 1:24:05.200 --> 1:24:09.000 pattern and practice of racial discrimination and excessive force. And 1:24:09.120 --> 1:24:12.920 you know what's going on now under this guy, Jeff Sessions. 1:24:13.240 --> 1:24:16.479 You've been on his ass, by the way, Yeah yeah, 1:24:16.920 --> 1:24:20.520 And under him, they're closing those pattern and practice investigations. 1:24:21.040 --> 1:24:24.680 Under the previous administration, there were consent decrees where there 1:24:24.720 --> 1:24:27.600 had been a finding of misconduct. The court kicked in 1:24:27.720 --> 1:24:30.000 and said, you have to act a certain way, and 1:24:30.040 --> 1:24:33.040 we're gonna watch that. They're shutting down all of those. 1:24:34.000 --> 1:24:39.600 They're reviving the war on drugs, they're reviving mandatory minimum sentences, 1:24:40.280 --> 1:24:42.240 and you know, again that's why we have got to 1:24:42.320 --> 1:24:45.160 be vigilant at this moment in time because we are 1:24:45.280 --> 1:24:49.160 looking at an administration that is rolling back the clock 1:24:49.280 --> 1:24:53.559 in a profound, profound way. Why is Jeff Sessions doing that? Though? 1:24:53.880 --> 1:24:58.160 Like is it really just Donald Trump trying to erase 1:24:58.240 --> 1:25:01.519 everything Barack Obama did that? What they really really want? 1:25:01.600 --> 1:25:05.160 Like they want to take take us backwards? So to speak. Listen, 1:25:05.240 --> 1:25:07.720 I think this has been on Jeff sessions agenda for 1:25:07.800 --> 1:25:12.240 a very long time. Don't forget Kreta. Scott King spoke 1:25:12.320 --> 1:25:15.200 out against Jeff Sessions when he was up years and 1:25:15.320 --> 1:25:18.439 years and years ago for an appointment. This is part 1:25:18.520 --> 1:25:21.439 of who he is. This is his history, this is 1:25:21.520 --> 1:25:25.280 his mission. He is silently and maybe not so silently, 1:25:25.360 --> 1:25:28.880 carrying it out right before us. Why aren't you afraid 1:25:28.960 --> 1:25:36.960 to speak out against him? I do speak free because 1:25:37.000 --> 1:25:40.280 we have to speak truth, Charlemagne, we have to speak truth. 1:25:40.360 --> 1:25:42.639 You know what, This is a moment in time that's 1:25:42.800 --> 1:25:46.599 actually requiring all of us to check ourselves about whether 1:25:46.640 --> 1:25:50.639 we're gonna have the courage to speak and to speak truth, 1:25:51.040 --> 1:25:54.200 no matter how uncomfortable it makes some people feel, no 1:25:54.360 --> 1:25:58.320 matter how much it may visit upon us, criticism or 1:25:58.400 --> 1:26:02.080 expose us to attacks. We've got to speak truth. We've 1:26:02.120 --> 1:26:05.440 got to speak truth about what is happening with this administration. 1:26:06.280 --> 1:26:11.160 Also because as leaders, the people know, they know, they 1:26:11.280 --> 1:26:14.000 know in their hearts, they know intuitively, instinctively that things 1:26:14.040 --> 1:26:16.320 are wrong, and we need to put the label on 1:26:16.400 --> 1:26:18.920 it when we see what it's actually happening from the inside. 1:26:19.000 --> 1:26:21.360 And so that's part of why I do it, because 1:26:21.400 --> 1:26:24.680 I believe that people have a right to know what 1:26:24.840 --> 1:26:28.040 their government is doing for them and to them. And 1:26:28.600 --> 1:26:31.400 you know, come what may, in terms of any response, 1:26:31.479 --> 1:26:33.120 how do we get our country back in order? Though 1:26:33.160 --> 1:26:35.880 it just seems like ever since Trump came in office, 1:26:35.920 --> 1:26:38.080 it just seems like it's just been an outspurt of 1:26:38.200 --> 1:26:41.120 racism going on, and it seems like it's hurting our 1:26:41.240 --> 1:26:43.880 kids more than anything else out there. So I travel 1:26:43.960 --> 1:26:48.800 around the country and I will tell you that I'm 1:26:48.880 --> 1:26:53.360 not buying the suggestion that we are divided as a country. 1:26:54.360 --> 1:26:56.680 And here's why I say that. You know, when you 1:26:56.760 --> 1:26:58.240 wake up in the middle of the night with that 1:26:58.320 --> 1:27:00.479 thought that's been weighing on you, maybe it's some people 1:27:00.479 --> 1:27:02.240 call it the witching hour at three o'clock in the morning, 1:27:02.280 --> 1:27:03.640 when you wake up in a cold sleet with that 1:27:03.720 --> 1:27:06.680 thing that's been worrying you. It is never through the 1:27:06.840 --> 1:27:10.400 lens of the party with which you're registered to vote, 1:27:11.520 --> 1:27:14.800 or you know, the demographic upholster put you in. And 1:27:14.960 --> 1:27:17.280 for the vast majority of us, that thought has to 1:27:17.320 --> 1:27:19.320 do with one of just a very few things our 1:27:19.400 --> 1:27:21.880 personal health, the health of our children or our parents. 1:27:22.200 --> 1:27:24.000 Can I get a job, keep a job, pay the 1:27:24.080 --> 1:27:25.599 bills by the end of the month. For so many 1:27:25.600 --> 1:27:27.120 of our students, can I pay off their students? Can 1:27:27.120 --> 1:27:29.360 they pay off their student loans? The vast majority of 1:27:29.439 --> 1:27:31.720 us have so much more uncommon than what separates us. 1:27:32.240 --> 1:27:35.600 And we've got to hold on to that in this 1:27:35.920 --> 1:27:41.000 fight right now, and then look to twenty eighteen, frankly, 1:27:41.080 --> 1:27:43.240 and the elections that are coming up in almost two 1:27:43.320 --> 1:27:47.920 hundred days as an opportunity to act. What I love 1:27:48.080 --> 1:27:52.040 about this moment with this administration and power is people 1:27:52.080 --> 1:27:54.640 are acting. Look back to the Women's March, look it 1:27:54.760 --> 1:27:58.080 to the March for Our Lives, the March for science, 1:27:58.800 --> 1:28:02.880 because also doesn'tinistration is putting forward policies that basically say 1:28:02.960 --> 1:28:05.760 science should not be the basis of public policy, which 1:28:05.800 --> 1:28:10.200 is ridiculous, but people are taken to the streets in 1:28:10.280 --> 1:28:14.240 a way they never have and in that way, our 1:28:14.320 --> 1:28:17.680 democracy is working. Now. We just got to take to 1:28:17.760 --> 1:28:20.880 the streets and then walk those streets to the polling 1:28:21.000 --> 1:28:24.920 place and vote. Because they used to say we couldn't 1:28:25.000 --> 1:28:28.639 vote legally, we weren't allowed to vote. Now they say 1:28:28.680 --> 1:28:33.759 we won't. We need to get out and vote because voting, 1:28:34.600 --> 1:28:37.639 US voting is connected to every one of the other issues. 1:28:38.200 --> 1:28:40.800 US voting is connected to who's going to be in 1:28:40.880 --> 1:28:44.120 office and how they think about criminal justice policy. Who's 1:28:44.120 --> 1:28:46.400 going to be office and pay attention to something like 1:28:47.200 --> 1:28:50.840 the rate of black babies and infant mortality. Who's going 1:28:50.920 --> 1:28:53.280 to pay attention to the fact that young black men 1:28:53.920 --> 1:28:56.880 are still at the bottom of the economic ladder in 1:28:57.000 --> 1:29:01.320 terms of opportunity, much less success in economic Who's in 1:29:01.520 --> 1:29:04.000 office is going to make a difference. All right, we 1:29:04.080 --> 1:29:06.240 have more with Senator Kamala Harris. When we come back, 1:29:06.280 --> 1:29:09.200 don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. 1:29:12.880 --> 1:29:15.400 You're checking out the world's most dangerous morning show. Morning. 1:29:15.439 --> 1:29:19.280 Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We 1:29:19.360 --> 1:29:22.599 are the Breakfast Club. Now it's Martin Luther King Day, 1:29:22.640 --> 1:29:25.320 We're gonna get back out interview with Kamala Harris. This 1:29:25.479 --> 1:29:28.080 was the first time that she actually stopped through. All right, 1:29:28.120 --> 1:29:30.120 don't move, it's a breakfast club. Good morning. We have 1:29:30.280 --> 1:29:33.560 Senator Kamala Harris still in the building. Charlomagne And I know, 1:29:33.840 --> 1:29:35.439 of course you just mentioned me too in times of 1:29:35.520 --> 1:29:37.479 your big supporters to that, but you're also a too 1:29:37.520 --> 1:29:44.479 short fan. Yes, I am too short. Yes, my favorite 1:29:45.000 --> 1:29:50.880 Senator Harris was my favorite words. Not doing that. I'm 1:29:50.960 --> 1:29:55.000 not doing that. I'm not doing that. Two short straight 1:29:55.080 --> 1:29:58.360 from Oakland. But you can, you can, you can? You 1:29:58.439 --> 1:30:01.160 can like both? Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course I 1:30:01.280 --> 1:30:04.639 love music. Now they call you the female Barack Obama. 1:30:05.080 --> 1:30:08.479 That's what I've seen when I get Now, now, are 1:30:08.520 --> 1:30:11.479 you are you considering and or do you see yourself 1:30:11.680 --> 1:30:14.240 possibly running for president? Is that right now? I'm just 1:30:14.360 --> 1:30:16.760 focused on what's in front of me. You know, I've 1:30:16.800 --> 1:30:18.840 seen too many people focus on that thing out there 1:30:18.840 --> 1:30:20.280 and they trip over the thing right in front of 1:30:20.360 --> 1:30:25.439 them in front. I was just in Detroit last weekend 1:30:26.240 --> 1:30:28.479 campaigning and talking to folks about the need to get 1:30:28.520 --> 1:30:31.400 out and vote. Um, I'll be all over this all 1:30:31.439 --> 1:30:34.240 over many states. I'm gonna be in Chicago, I'm gonna 1:30:34.240 --> 1:30:37.360 be in Wisconsin, I'll be in Florida, probably go to Philly. 1:30:37.920 --> 1:30:39.960 We really have to turn out of Look what happened 1:30:39.960 --> 1:30:43.759 in Alabama. Everybody should really see and remember what happened 1:30:43.760 --> 1:30:48.280 just in a recent election where Doug Jones, a white Democrat. 1:30:48.760 --> 1:30:52.200 The math is that a white Democrat won in the 1:30:52.320 --> 1:30:59.200 South because of black women. So our vote really matters 1:30:59.280 --> 1:31:01.320 when we get out. It was over ninety percent of 1:31:01.360 --> 1:31:02.880 black men who we came out of this. Yeah, and 1:31:02.920 --> 1:31:06.320 that's right, And that's right. That's that's exactly right, that's 1:31:06.400 --> 1:31:08.519 exactly right. You was on the debate team in college. 1:31:09.200 --> 1:31:11.200 How does that help you in your line of work? 1:31:11.600 --> 1:31:14.160 First of all, it taught you how to um, to 1:31:14.320 --> 1:31:17.360 come back from an argument, you know. It teaches you 1:31:17.640 --> 1:31:20.759 how to stand in front of a room of people 1:31:21.280 --> 1:31:24.880 and express your point and then and then when your 1:31:24.920 --> 1:31:28.479 point is being attacked, to come back and respond um. 1:31:28.560 --> 1:31:30.320 It teaches you how to think quickly, and it gives 1:31:30.360 --> 1:31:32.400 you confidence in the fact that you can stand in 1:31:32.479 --> 1:31:34.559 front of a room of people in state of position 1:31:34.600 --> 1:31:38.680 and defend it. Because sometimes for so many of us, 1:31:39.040 --> 1:31:41.400 we're the only one who is like us in a room. 1:31:41.960 --> 1:31:43.960 And when you're the only one like you in a room, 1:31:44.360 --> 1:31:47.720 there is a natural tendency to want to just kind 1:31:47.760 --> 1:31:51.920 of blend in. But what you learn during debate, or 1:31:52.000 --> 1:31:54.519 what you learn at an HBCU, or if you have 1:31:54.720 --> 1:31:58.000 the blessing of having a family or a community that 1:31:58.120 --> 1:32:02.840 teaches you, um, you learn instead that when you're in 1:32:02.920 --> 1:32:05.840 that room, you got to speak up, and you've got 1:32:05.880 --> 1:32:07.840 to acquire the skills to know how to do that 1:32:08.080 --> 1:32:10.080 and to have the confidence to do it. You know, 1:32:10.120 --> 1:32:13.320 I mentor a lot of people and I always tell 1:32:13.400 --> 1:32:16.120 them your entire life, you will have many experiences where 1:32:16.120 --> 1:32:17.640 you're the only one like you in that room, the 1:32:17.680 --> 1:32:19.599 only one looks like you, the only one who's had 1:32:19.640 --> 1:32:22.439 the experiences you've had. And when you sit in that room, 1:32:22.479 --> 1:32:25.280 you have to remember we are all in that room 1:32:25.280 --> 1:32:29.000 with you. There was the Minangelo quote, I'm not alone 1:32:29.000 --> 1:32:33.640 because I stand ten. Yeah. Yeah, it's funny because I 1:32:33.680 --> 1:32:35.680 put my kids in debate class because of that, to 1:32:35.720 --> 1:32:37.519 be able to use their words to fight back and 1:32:37.600 --> 1:32:39.200 not have to use their hands. And it's still hurt 1:32:39.240 --> 1:32:41.439 just the same. And you got to objectively see both 1:32:41.479 --> 1:32:45.000 sides right. And also and to your point, also, the 1:32:45.439 --> 1:32:48.080 great thing about learning debate is that you learn their 1:32:48.200 --> 1:32:51.240 rules of debate, right, you know, because also to your point, 1:32:51.760 --> 1:32:54.839 when you argue, some people would suggest that's pure emotion 1:32:55.160 --> 1:32:57.320 and that if you're getting in an argument with somebody, 1:32:57.560 --> 1:33:01.760 you're just emotional and unreasonable. What debate teaches you is no, 1:33:01.960 --> 1:33:06.160 it's actually quite civilized to stand up and disagree with someone, 1:33:06.360 --> 1:33:09.200 and there are rules about how you do it, because 1:33:09.240 --> 1:33:12.599 that is what is done among thinking people. You do debate. 1:33:13.040 --> 1:33:14.920 I mean, you can go back to history in different 1:33:14.960 --> 1:33:19.920 forms of debate. The dozens. Yes, that was until you 1:33:19.960 --> 1:33:21.720 didn't like what they said and you and you just 1:33:21.880 --> 1:33:27.519 keep it right. But that's that was debate. That's your question, 1:33:27.640 --> 1:33:29.800 you know. You mentioned, of course we went to HBCUs. 1:33:29.840 --> 1:33:32.559 How important is the HBCU because we got away from 1:33:32.600 --> 1:33:34.960 it a couple of years ago and I'm looking at 1:33:35.000 --> 1:33:37.400 a lot of the colleges in attendance and enrollment is low. 1:33:37.479 --> 1:33:41.280 So how important is HBCU to you and especially black families? 1:33:41.720 --> 1:33:43.920 Let me tell you. I am who I am today 1:33:44.520 --> 1:33:47.040 for two reasons because of my mother and the family 1:33:47.120 --> 1:33:50.560 I was raising, and Howard University and HBCU. What you 1:33:50.640 --> 1:33:53.840 and I know when we walked onto that campus for 1:33:53.920 --> 1:33:56.800 the first time, we were surrounded by people that look 1:33:56.880 --> 1:34:01.960 like us all everywhere. Everybody you walk onto and I'll 1:34:01.960 --> 1:34:03.920 just speak about Howard, but I know Hampton is the same. 1:34:04.240 --> 1:34:06.680 You walk onto that campus, you can look over on 1:34:06.760 --> 1:34:09.200 one area and you will see a bunch of young 1:34:09.320 --> 1:34:12.160 African Americans who are students who are in the business 1:34:12.160 --> 1:34:15.160 school walking around with briefcases. You look over at another 1:34:15.240 --> 1:34:18.040 area and they're walking around in leotards because they're in 1:34:18.120 --> 1:34:22.240 the School of Fine Arts. The football captain and star, 1:34:23.040 --> 1:34:26.640 and the homecoming queen and the debate team, and there 1:34:26.680 --> 1:34:30.080 are sororities and fraternity and what you learn at an 1:34:30.240 --> 1:34:33.440 HBCU is you do not have to fit into somebody's 1:34:34.000 --> 1:34:37.120 limited prospective on what it means to be young, gifted, 1:34:37.160 --> 1:34:40.160 in black. You can be all those things. When I 1:34:40.280 --> 1:34:42.320 was at Howard, I pledged a sorority, I was on 1:34:42.439 --> 1:34:46.840 the debate team, I was the chair of the Economic Society, 1:34:47.520 --> 1:34:50.439 and I went to my share of parties too. And 1:34:50.600 --> 1:34:53.600 you didn't have to choose. You could be fully actualized. 1:34:53.840 --> 1:34:56.439 And there was such beauty to that, because this country 1:34:57.120 --> 1:35:02.360 still has such a limited you of what it means 1:35:03.000 --> 1:35:06.800 for a person to be young and smart and black. 1:35:07.320 --> 1:35:10.440 And so at those years when you're learning your identity 1:35:11.040 --> 1:35:14.360 to be in that environment where basically everybody just says 1:35:14.400 --> 1:35:15.800 to you can be whatever you want to be, and 1:35:15.880 --> 1:35:18.680 by the way, and if you don't, it's because you 1:35:18.800 --> 1:35:21.559 need to work harder, right, Because that's the other thing 1:35:21.640 --> 1:35:24.360 that happens. You can't walk away and say, oh, it's 1:35:24.360 --> 1:35:27.599 because of my skin color that I didn't get that. Nope, Nope, 1:35:27.880 --> 1:35:31.000 that's not it. So it's a wonderful um, it's a 1:35:31.120 --> 1:35:35.920 wonderful place to learn who you are and to be 1:35:36.200 --> 1:35:39.000 proud of who you are and to leave them with 1:35:39.120 --> 1:35:42.320 the confidence of walking into the world also knowing one 1:35:42.360 --> 1:35:44.559 other thing. You know, people from time and time will 1:35:44.600 --> 1:35:47.040 come up to you and they'll say, oh, you're special, 1:35:48.200 --> 1:35:50.720 You're unique. And I tell people, don't let it, don't 1:35:50.800 --> 1:35:52.920 let anybody tell you that, because there is there is 1:35:52.960 --> 1:35:55.960 something about being told that that also suggests you're the 1:35:56.040 --> 1:36:00.080 only one like you, which means you're alone. And what 1:36:00.360 --> 1:36:04.120 an HBCU SEU reminds us of. No, we come with people, 1:36:04.600 --> 1:36:07.080 We got people. There are a lot of us. We're 1:36:07.120 --> 1:36:09.320 not alone, right, well made you want to go to 1:36:09.479 --> 1:36:14.000 HBCU with a different world. No, I have family members 1:36:14.040 --> 1:36:16.200 that went to Howard. Wanted to go to Howard. Yeah, 1:36:16.520 --> 1:36:19.439 got you, wells she has to go. So one last one, brother, Well, 1:36:20.400 --> 1:36:23.600 I saw you talking about corporate donations. Yeah, and you 1:36:23.640 --> 1:36:26.599 said you would depend It depends whether you would take 1:36:26.640 --> 1:36:29.519 them or not. I think that money has had such 1:36:29.560 --> 1:36:34.759 an outside influence on politics, and especially with the Supreme 1:36:34.880 --> 1:36:40.080 Court determining Citizens United, which basically means that big corporations 1:36:40.720 --> 1:36:44.559 can spend unlimited amounts of money influencing a campaign. Right, 1:36:44.640 --> 1:36:47.000 We're all supposed to have an equal vote, but money 1:36:47.120 --> 1:36:50.719 has now really tipped the balance between an individual having 1:36:50.840 --> 1:36:54.200 equal power in an election to a corporation. So I've 1:36:54.200 --> 1:36:56.840 actually made a decision since I had that conversation that 1:36:56.920 --> 1:37:00.240 I'm not going to accept corporate pack checks. Wow, um, 1:37:00.479 --> 1:37:02.759 I just I'm not. You're gonna raise money for campaigns 1:37:02.800 --> 1:37:05.720 and stuff? Well, you know, I've raised so far this 1:37:05.880 --> 1:37:08.599 year three million dollars for my colleagues for the twenty 1:37:08.640 --> 1:37:11.880 eighteen election cycle, and most of that money has been 1:37:11.960 --> 1:37:14.800 like an eighteen dollars twenty dollars increments. People are turning 1:37:14.880 --> 1:37:18.600 out what's the website yet? How can people um go 1:37:18.800 --> 1:37:23.719 to Kamala Harris dot org and you will find it. Okay, 1:37:23.800 --> 1:37:27.080 a m LA Harris. If you decided to run for 1:37:27.120 --> 1:37:28.880 president in twenty twenty, we'll do a fund raise before 1:37:28.880 --> 1:37:30.479 you're right here on the radio now, we definitely will. 1:37:30.520 --> 1:37:33.400 We did one last year for Harry belafontas organization Change 1:37:33.400 --> 1:37:38.479 for Change, so we can get you a million of two. Okay, 1:37:39.360 --> 1:37:42.360 if you decide, have ever been a dream of yours? 1:37:42.680 --> 1:37:45.320 Have you ever thought about it? I had so many dreams, 1:37:45.600 --> 1:37:48.760 I had so many. I do though, I really do. 1:37:49.640 --> 1:37:53.240 I do see the beauty of you, know, everything that 1:37:53.280 --> 1:37:56.240 you raised in terms of the reaction and the other 1:37:56.400 --> 1:38:00.519 side of the tragedy of what's happening, and that gives 1:38:00.600 --> 1:38:05.160 me a great sense of optimism about our future and 1:38:05.439 --> 1:38:10.400 in the history of our people. We march, we shout, 1:38:10.760 --> 1:38:16.000 we sing, we dance. Right, Look at who just got 1:38:16.080 --> 1:38:21.800 the pulletzerprise mister right, you had him on you, but 1:38:22.000 --> 1:38:24.360 look at that. Look at Beyonce and what she did 1:38:24.400 --> 1:38:27.960 at Chawa. Right. It has always been as part of 1:38:28.000 --> 1:38:32.000 our history that our artists, everybody is part of the movement. 1:38:32.680 --> 1:38:37.120 Everyone understands that It's about the expression of feeling, and 1:38:37.720 --> 1:38:41.600 we can do that with joy and with with conviction 1:38:42.000 --> 1:38:44.519 and with purpose. Great. I think God is setting us 1:38:44.600 --> 1:38:46.920 up for a woman of color president in twenty I 1:38:46.960 --> 1:38:49.920 think that Senator Kamala Harris. I think she's our future president. 1:38:50.400 --> 1:38:52.800 And I hope she hope God puts his hands on 1:38:52.920 --> 1:38:55.080 her and says, you know what, I want you to do. 1:38:55.200 --> 1:38:58.120 This as God playing put that on your playlist. Two 1:38:58.160 --> 1:39:01.120 by drid But we thank you joining us. Thank you guys, 1:39:01.160 --> 1:39:02.880 it's honor to be with you. Thank you for coming. 1:39:02.960 --> 1:39:05.960 All right, It's the Breakfast Cloud. 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