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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Welcome back to the best podcast ever. My

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Speaker 1: name is Raven, my name is Miranda. How you doing, babe.

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Speaker 2: You know I'm a little sweaty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It's been hot.

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Speaker 2: It's hot as hell out here in these streets.

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Speaker 1: These streets have been hot.

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Speaker 2: Very very much so. And I've been running around this

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Speaker 2: house and the window above the bed is just blaring.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And the thing I love about that is that

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Speaker 1: the sun only blares on you. Yeah, glares, blars.

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Speaker 2: Blairs, it's blaring.

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Speaker 1: It just just and I look at you, and you

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Speaker 1: look like this glowing angel with sweat beads on her

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Speaker 1: nose and upper lip.

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Speaker 2: And sweat keeps you young, doesn't it just maybe not.

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Speaker 1: Keeps you moisturized?

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Speaker 3: Moist?

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Speaker 2: I actually liked.

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Speaker 1: That word, the word moist.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually like the word moist. I think it's

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Speaker 2: because it's there's only a few words in the English

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Speaker 2: language that totally encapsulate the feeling.

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Speaker 1: Encapsulate, encapsulate and.

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Speaker 2: Capsulate, encapsulate the feeling, the emotion, the sound, the smell,

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Speaker 2: like moist does.

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Speaker 1: That's really gross?

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I don't like the word moist, but I was thinking

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Speaker 1: about something that happened to us recently, we went to

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Speaker 1: an event. It was fun. We had a little date

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Speaker 1: night out and as we were leaving, you got kind

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Speaker 1: of cornered by a gentleman who really wanted your contact information.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And he when you were like, dude, I do not

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Speaker 1: know you. But then he asked you for something, not

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Speaker 1: your email or your phone number, oh, your business card.

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Speaker 2: Asked me for my business card. You know what you guys? Listen.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate a person who gets three thousand business cards

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Speaker 2: made because they're profession requires them to share a cool

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Speaker 2: version of a Pokemon card in real life, but like,

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Speaker 2: I don't do that.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever had a business card?

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Speaker 2: I have had a card. I have had a card

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Speaker 2: that had my business information on it, but it didn't

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Speaker 2: say Raven Simone's business card. It was like my production

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Speaker 2: company and here's my manager. And it was like four

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Speaker 2: hundred of them. Because I thought I was cool, it

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Speaker 2: was I was seventeen.

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Speaker 1: Okay, is it you hand them out to like three people? Huh?

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Speaker 1: And how did you go about that? Like, hey here

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Speaker 1: here did you just like slip it?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: This was before like this was like during the two

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Speaker 2: way moment. This was like before even in stat Instagram,

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Speaker 2: So like, yeah, if you needed my manager's information, I

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Speaker 2: stopped remembering phone numbers in nineteen seventy two, so like

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I never had a business card? No, no, why not?

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Speaker 3: Nit?

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Speaker 1: Just no, like, never had a prof like you said,

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Speaker 1: that would kind of lend itself to that. And it's

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Speaker 1: also just so not the generation. I mean, my dad

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Speaker 1: had business cards. Oh, Warner Brothers made him a business card.

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Speaker 2: So you know, have you ever were you a part

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Speaker 2: of the creation of the business card my father's Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Like did you watch him create it?

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Speaker 1: No, not at all. I don't think he created it.

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Speaker 1: I think that the studio gave it to him. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea. We should ask him. But I

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Speaker 1: was given a business card, a card.

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Speaker 2: You were given a card.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I had a very very interesting interaction Mickey Rourke.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so wow. It's pretty epic and I still actually

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Speaker 1: carry it in my wallet to.

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Speaker 2: This Why why the fuck do you carry Mickey Rourke's

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Speaker 2: business card? And what information is on it?

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Speaker 1: Well, I guess business card. Who knows if it's actually

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Speaker 1: technically that. But here's the story. I was working on

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Speaker 1: a movie called Gangster squad. Mickey was in the movie.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we were face just joking.

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Speaker 1: We were shooting downtown and it was a night shoot.

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Speaker 1: It was late, and he and I got into a conversation,

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Speaker 1: you know, because you sit around and wait a lot

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Speaker 2: And start having conversations with Mickey Rourke. Continue, Well, I wasn't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was the actor sitting around and waiting. So

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Speaker 1: he started having a conversation with whatever. Anyway, So we

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Speaker 1: start having this conversation and he says, hey, hey, hey,

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Speaker 1: I have something for you. I want to give this

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Speaker 2: I would have embraced myself immediately.

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Speaker 1: Right, I kind of did, but I was like, it's fine.

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Speaker 1: And in the background, people are yelling fire in the hole,

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Speaker 1: also a very like interesting moment. And he goes, I

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Speaker 1: want to give something to you, and I said okay,

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Speaker 1: and he goes into his back pocket. Mind you, he's

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Speaker 1: in costume and he's carrying this in his costume pocket.

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Speaker 2: Because not only does he need to carry this around,

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Speaker 2: but on a set that he obviously had been working

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Speaker 2: in case anybody that he's already been working with needs

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Speaker 2: his business card.

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Speaker 1: Continue, So he pulls out his wallet and then opens

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Speaker 1: it and hands me this card and it's laminated wow,

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Speaker 1: And it's a photo of him.

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Speaker 2: What year do you know? Like which facelift, which pre facelift?

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Speaker 1: But his hair is like basking in the wind there,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna have to like post this to socials

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Speaker 1: so people can see this. But his hair is basking

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Speaker 1: to the wind and he's holding a small little Chihuahua.

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Speaker 1: And so it's him and the chihuahua on one side,

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Speaker 1: and then on the back it's just the Chihuahua and

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Speaker 1: it says Loki.

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Speaker 2: So it's technically not his business card. It was his

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Speaker 2: dog's business card.

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Speaker 1: Maybe, And I'm now kind of trying to remember. I

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Speaker 1: think that that dog had just passed and was very

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Speaker 1: close to him. Maybe it was like an a commemorative card.

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Speaker 2: Like the dog again, a Pokemon collector's edition of Loki's

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Speaker 2: Chihuahuan Life Life.

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Speaker 1: And could I trade it?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, well, I would like to just thinking

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Speaker 2: about that, what if there were celebrity trading cards like

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Speaker 2: but not like just normal baseball, you know, with their stats,

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Speaker 2: like relationship cards like oh this is who had like

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Speaker 2: eighty million divorces. Babes, like give me somebody Elizabeth Taylor,

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Speaker 2: Like Elizabeth Taylor with husband number one, that's a gold card.

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Speaker 2: Husband number two is the platinum card, and you can

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Speaker 2: like trade it back and forth, like Michael Jackson and

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Speaker 2: Brooke Shields gets a card and then so does like

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Speaker 2: Michael Jackson and the Monkey.

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Speaker 1: So it would only be for relationships, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: Michael Jackson and the Monkey. Use you're ri like it,

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Speaker 1: You're oh, my goodness, Okay, so you think it could

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Speaker 2: Don't think it could be only for relationships. It could

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Speaker 2: also be like really interesting moments in pop culture, like

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Speaker 2: the Britney Spears shaved head moment versus the Blanket fiasco.

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Speaker 1: So you would have to make a deck and there

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Speaker 1: would only be one card of each of these things, right,

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Speaker 1: Like I'm trying to figure out how it would get

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Speaker 1: to a point where people would actually want and trade

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Speaker 1: them versus just like going online and then printing out

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Speaker 2: Okay, like for instance, the Madonna series, I'm gonna trade

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Speaker 2: my Madonna twoenty twenty facelift card for your Madonna, like

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Speaker 2: a Virgin card. Like that's like a real one on

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Speaker 2: one trade in my opinion, because that was a really

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Speaker 2: in general. Like I just feel, you know, like, what

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Speaker 2: would be your one to one for celebrities.

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Speaker 1: My one to one for a celebrities mode, Well, it

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Speaker 1: would be like Jlo in the Versace green dress versus

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Speaker 1: j Lo on the yacht in the bikini in the

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Speaker 1: music video where Ben Affleck is like pulling this string.

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Speaker 2: Do you see what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I see what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: I would trade the Versace for the pull string? You would?

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Speaker 2: I would? I would trade that for sure, like immediately, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's good trade. I think we should start a celebrity

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Speaker 2: a celebrity a celebrity deck, a celebrity deck, you know

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And then you know what would be super cool to

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Speaker 1: have like the goat slash egot section.

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Speaker 2: Well, that right there is at least thirteen thousand mana

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Speaker 2: points in card conversation. Those who know know what I'm

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a it's a cartoon when you have a

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Speaker 2: lot of energy in different like Zelda or things like that,

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Speaker 1: Oh, this is Pokemon.

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Speaker 2: This is like poke. Well Zelda is not Pokemon, but anyway,

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Speaker 2: keep going Pokemon. But like you have Mana, you have

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Speaker 2: of rog What would be your favorite egot celebrity card?

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Speaker 1: Hands down? I would have to say her initials start

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Speaker 2: Well, not a lot of people because I don't research

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Speaker 2: it much. Literally only one person. But there's a few

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Speaker 2: people we can look online right now. The list is small,

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Speaker 1: That's like, that's that's past a triple threat.

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Speaker 2: There's about eighteen egots in the entire world, and we're

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Speaker 2: about to talk to one of them. I can't wait, babes,

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Speaker 2: let them know who it is.

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Speaker 1: It's Hoppy A. Gold Berg.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Best podcast ever with Raven and Miranda.

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Speaker 3: I am so pleased to be here. Oh never have

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Speaker 3: I been on the best podcast ever with Raven and Miranda?

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Speaker 1: Well, first or making Dreams Happen as well you should,

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Speaker 1: damn it. That is that is what we're all about,

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Speaker 1: making your dreams. I'm true.

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Speaker 2: Let me just start with love you. Thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for doing this with us. We appreciate you and

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Speaker 2: your busy schedule. Oh no, we got time for the

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Speaker 2: whoop my story the first week. There's so many things.

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Speaker 2: My wife and I woke up this morning. We normally

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Speaker 2: don't do a lot of like pre chatter talk in

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Speaker 2: the morning. We normally like I love you, I love

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Speaker 2: you too, and then we go to work. But we knew,

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Speaker 2: but we knew that you were coming on to.

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Speaker 3: Do that with my cat. I just just say you

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Speaker 3: now you.

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Speaker 2: We knew you were coming on, and we have never

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Speaker 2: So we actually learned a lot of we had to

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Speaker 2: learn about you. We had to learn how ledge of

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Speaker 2: fucking dairy.

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Speaker 1: You are ledg of fucking Larry, and we.

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Speaker 3: Just talked about that word. First of all, let's break it, Larry.

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Speaker 3: I love that word. I've never heard it before, but

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Speaker 3: I will carry it proudly. Yes, when people say what

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Speaker 2: But let me just say this for all the listeners, listen,

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Speaker 3: Well, my mother used to. My mom and my brother

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Speaker 3: You want never ever to have to work again? Done?

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Speaker 2: She was right, and it's interesting in our industry what

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Speaker 2: And I feel like I would love to hear your

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, no one ever said you can't have those.

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Speaker 3: And then I would get letters from people saying, you know,

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Speaker 3: Rosin Cash always had dreadlocks, but when she worked you

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Speaker 1: I asked when Raven and I were talking about that

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Speaker 1: I was like, no, sister act she she had her

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Speaker 2: I remember being on the view with you and you

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Speaker 2: You know, wig makers are magical humans just in general.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: I want to ask for our next question.

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Speaker 1: I know, go go, go brave. It is so ready.

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Speaker 2: I'm so ready and I and I'm a really bad

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Speaker 3: This is the that's the greatest you Derek did your hair. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I did teenage mutant Ninja turtles. He built me a

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Speaker 1: It's amazing.

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Speaker 3: But I think that people were in this weird place

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Speaker 2: A tea tree oil treatment. That's why it smells good.

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Speaker 3: There was a girl and get scared. They get scared

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Speaker 3: It doesn't flow the way mine does. Well, that it

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Speaker 1: And your hair is beautiful. I've always thought it was beautiful,

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Speaker 3: It does all kinds of weird stuff now because it's happening.

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Speaker 2: I've gone literally, I've seen her thick, thick ones. They're

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Speaker 3: I love.

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Speaker 2: You know, a lot of people don't understand just because

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Speaker 2: You know, the styles that come with locks are gorgeous.

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Speaker 2: You did have one lock journey that I wasn't a

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Speaker 3: I was afraid they were more meant to scare you

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Speaker 3: because I was doing a Stephen King movie. I was scanned. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: See, you know, I tell you the truth. I just

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Speaker 1: I tell you the truth. I thought they were so cool.

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Speaker 2: They were the weirdest things I've ever seen. Okay, listen here,

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Speaker 2: here's a question I have. Now I just need to

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Speaker 2: Will these two people be friends? And I'm going to

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Speaker 2: say their names? Okay Fontaine and Tyrone Biggins. Yeah, would

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Speaker 3: Wait? Absolutely, we agree.

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Speaker 2: If nobody knows what I'm talking about, Woopie. Goldberg has

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Speaker 3: He was he chose everything. He chose everything. But he

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Speaker 2: Very educated. And Tyrone Biggins, if y'all don't know Dave

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Speaker 2: Chappelle blah blah blah blah, I'm bringing this up because

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Speaker 2: Tyrone Biggins, you know he got that something from you

441
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 2: mama's house. You know they got that from moms? Maybe?

442
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, do I not? But that's why it's out there.

443
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 3: It's out there for other people to evolve, evolve it

444
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 3: and make it something new. But you always know where

445
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 3: you came from. I mean, you know, if you listen

446
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,439
Speaker 3: to any of my stuff, you know I took all

447
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 3: that style from Richard Pryor and from Robin Williams and

448
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 3: from Billy you know I took him. I took from

449
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 3: the best and evolved it for me. And you know,

450
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 3: there there's a there's something kind of wonderful when people

451
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 3: leave you little they don't call them tomatoes, little cookies

452
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 3: that you pick up. And not all cookies are for everybody,

453
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 3: but the cookies I picked up worked well for me,

454
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 3: you know, so I was lucky.

455
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 2: Y'all were the best inverse oreo I've ever seen. Just

456
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 2: watching a chocolate drop in the middle of the vanilla oreos.

457
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 1: That my No, seriously, it's so true. What do you

458
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: think Whoopy, Billy and Robin?

459
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:05,919
Speaker 2: It's like it's like heaven.

460
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 1: I mean, it's insane. Do you miss stand up?

461
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 3: I do, and I don't because I never you know,

462
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 3: I never did stand up. Actually, I was just a storyteller.

463
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 3: Stand ups, you know, you have to you gotta you

464
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 3: have to have joke, joke, joke. Robin was a stand up.

465
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 3: He was also a storyteller. But Billy is a storyteller. Yeah,

466
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 3: you know, Billy tells stories and he just takes you

467
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 3: with him. You know, did I ever tell you this story?

468
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 3: The first time I actually ever saw Billy, he was

469
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 3: on some TV show and he was talking about Victor Mature,

470
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 3: who was an actor in the fifties. He's like Demetrius

471
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 3: and the Gladiators and as doing these things. So he

472
00:24:55,800 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 3: is doing this voice. He's acting as Victim Mature, but

473
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 3: he has a bowl of potato chips on the table

474
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 3: next to him, and he says, this is Victim Mature

475
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 3: walking through the jungle. And he does this whole scene,

476
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 3: and every time he'd take a step, he'd crunch the

477
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 3: potato and then he would, you know, tippy toe. It

478
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 3: was so brilliant, and I just said, that's what I want.

479
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 3: I want to be innovative. I want to find things

480
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 3: in the craziest places.

481
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 4: And you know, so I got.

482
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 3: I got the things that I loved to do from

483
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 3: all the people I loved watching doing.

484
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 2: The way you're explaining it, it sounds more like art.

485
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 2: It sounds more like avant garde entertainment and art and

486
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 2: kind of puppeteering of the human body rather than what

487
00:25:58,960 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 2: people might think of.

488
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: And it's also smart, it's clever. It's ways of speaking

489
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: about something or sending a message without being so overt

490
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 1: and being playful in something. I mean, it takes intelligence

491
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 1: and artistry.

492
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 3: Yes, yes. And the thing that I realized with Billy

493
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 3: is what he allowed the audience to do is you

494
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 3: didn't have to be a seeing member of the audience.

495
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 3: Oh yes, honey, you know what I mean. You did

496
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 3: not have to be because he made he painted the

497
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 3: picture for you. So if you were seeing person, you

498
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 3: saw what he was doing. But if you weren't a

499
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 3: seeing person, you were just you were right there with him.

500
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 3: And I love I love intelligent, intelligent transformation because this

501
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 3: kind of stuff is you know, it used to be

502
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 3: called performance art.

503
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 2: That's what I was trying to say, performance art.

504
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 3: That's what that's what that's what my storytelling used to

505
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 3: be called. And then when I when people started coming

506
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 3: to the theater, they were like, oh, no, you're a comic.

507
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 3: It's like, uh no, I'm not. You know, so it

508
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 3: it goes. It's constantly again transitioning, because that's what art is.

509
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 3: And so I miss being able to get up and

510
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 3: talk to people about the insanity that is.

511
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 2: What was it called Earth life with Anxiety America.

512
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 3: All those things. But I was really focused on menopause.

513
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 3: Oh because people ten years ago, fifteen years ago, when

514
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 3: I was in it, people weren't talking about it. So

515
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 3: I talked about all the stuff that I was going

516
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 3: through because I'd say, well, you know, you dry up

517
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 3: and so you're walking down the street and you're here

518
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 3: random to see who it is. And then you look

519
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 3: down and you realize there's a trail of sand behind you.

520
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 1: You already opposite of moist.

521
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 3: You know. And so people would start laughing and say

522
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 3: come on and say nope, that's what it is, you know,

523
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 3: or you want to you decide yes, you're gonna be intimate,

524
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 3: and you can't get in.

525
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, the door is locked in the opposite it's locked.

526
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 3: It's it's puckered and it's closed. And then you're talking

527
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 3: about get off me, it's hot.

528
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: That part. That part, I say that right now, right now,

529
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: you know.

530
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 3: I mean, there are all of these things that you

531
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: want to say to people. Listen, this is gonna happen

532
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 3: no matter what, because you're a woman and this is

533
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 3: in your body and this is what's coming. And all

534
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 3: you can do is laugh about it. In the old days,

535
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 3: when I was a kid, all I wanted to do

536
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 3: is get a period. Oh god, because that been you

537
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 3: were a woman. And then I got that shit and

538
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 3: I didn't want it anymore.

539
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: Save babe, that's what I want this bitch. I remember

540
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: getting it and I said, if this means being a woman,

541
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: because my mom was like, oh, Miranda, it's so beautiful.

542
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: Embrace it. You're a woman. And I was like, fuck that.

543
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: If this means being a woman, I don't want to

544
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: be a woman anymore. No, ye, you guys, good buy.

545
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: When I got my period, I was with my dad

546
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 2: at the time, and I woke up to a crazy

547
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 2: bed and he was like, call your grandma. I was like,

548
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: why don't have to call my grandma. She'll know what

549
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 2: to do. She was like, go get the belt. And

550
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm not in trouble. What are you

551
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 2: talking about. She's like, go get the belt. You know

552
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 2: you got to put your pat in the belt. I said, lady,

553
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 2: this is not nineteen forty two.

554
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 3: I need a pad. Listen. I showed people on stage

555
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 3: the imaginary belt. I also introduced them to the imaginary girdle,

556
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 3: which is actually only this big. Oh it's that big,

557
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 3: but you have to pull it, and you had to

558
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 3: put it on the end of the what do you

559
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 3: call doorknob and pull so you can get your leg in.

560
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: Stop it, stop it.

561
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 3: Oh god, it was crazy. You'd have to pull that

562
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 3: and then you try to get your other leg in

563
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 3: because you're still now holding it. And we got one

564
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 3: leg in and one leg out, it's on the doorknob,

565
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 3: and you're thinking, why am I doing this? Why? Why

566
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 3: am I doing it? Well, because they said that's what

567
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 3: we needed to do. And when we had to deal

568
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 3: with all those belts, we had to put the belt on.

569
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 3: You then had to put the the front of the

570
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 3: path through the belt thing and make sure it stuck.

571
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 3: And then you had to do the same in the back.

572
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 3: But you couldn't see because that was your behind back there,

573
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 3: and you never looked at your own behind. Why we

574
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 3: get it in there because it's too hard to turn around.

575
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 3: It's just too hard to turn around. And then there

576
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 3: you were, and you would be walking like a cowboy

577
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 3: because the pads with this bed.

578
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 2: But let's let's keep it, let's keep it real. Whooping took, however,

579
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: for the pad and the tampon to even come to life.

580
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: They the real tampon, And please fact check me everyone,

581
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 2: I know you fucking will, But the real tampon really

582
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 2: truly wasn't evided to wartimes, the one that could actually

583
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 2: go inside of us, and they haven't changed the formula

584
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 2: since then.

585
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 3: But here's there a question. Let a man design that ship.

586
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 2: That same man who designed the bikini, the heels, the

587
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 2: bra and anything else.

588
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: That we got it with birth, every everything. Sit down man,

589
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: every gynecologist who's a man who says, I know what

590
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: needs to happen to you, go sit down.

591
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 3: I would tell Vagina then talk to me. Nowadays, build

592
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 3: everything else. Vagina actually actually amazing woman just gave birth. Uh.

593
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 3: She was born without a uterus. I heard this, No

594
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 3: extraordinary woman. She was born without a uterus, and because

595
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 3: science is so incredible it allowed her toy. They built

596
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 3: a uterus for her, which she had, and I believe

597
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 3: she carried her child to she I think her. I

598
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 3: think that's what they said. An extraordinary stuff happening in

599
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 3: science in the States or yes, in the States. She's

600
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 3: in Alabama.

601
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 2: Oh oh, she's going to go into it. You know,

602
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 2: my do love a wife's whole brain is tantalizing.

603
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 5: Oh.

604
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: I just can't believe.

605
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 3: It's enough to look her up. It's an extraordinary story.

606
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 3: And I stopped just short of saying because now I'm

607
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 3: not sure she carried the baby, but she she now

608
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 3: has a little baby boy, which is fantastic. It made

609
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 3: me cry when I saw her because I thought, you know,

610
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 3: this is something she really wanted, and she said, I

611
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 3: kind of felt like I was supposed to bring this

612
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 3: to here for other people to know that there are

613
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 3: we can still participate in all of this. I mean,

614
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 3: it's extraordinary. People are taking things away from folks, but

615
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 3: here's this woman who gave a gift to millions of

616
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 3: women around the world, which I just was thrilled with.

617
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: That's beautiful.

618
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 2: That's beautiful. It's nothing else is new. I mean, I

619
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 2: just kind of wanted to step back a little bit

620
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 2: about the storytelling conversation because one person kept coming to

621
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 2: my head and I just want to touch on a

622
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 2: little bit longer, because that's why I love you, Like, yeah,

623
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: you're on the view and I worked with you. You're awesome.

624
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: But the woman that I grew up in watching George

625
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: Carlin go.

626
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 3: Yes one great minds ever ever ever another genius. You

627
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 3: know when I was a kid, he was doing he

628
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 3: had just sort of come through with the hippie dippy

629
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 3: weather man, and I understood him, like I got him,

630
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 3: and he would say things like, well, I don't know,

631
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 3: it might rain yes man or stuff talking about stuff stuff,

632
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 3: and you know, why are we doing the things we

633
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 3: do when we have all these you know, all this

634
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 3: space on the planet and we're playing.

635
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 2: Golf that Oh my god.

636
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: I love him.

637
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 3: His mind was fantastic, and I think that he I

638
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 3: wish he were here because I would love to hear

639
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 3: his definition of this insanity that's happening.

640
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 2: I would love to hear his idea of cancel culture,

641
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 2: like he would go all the way in yah.

642
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, And what is I you know, is it cancel culture?

643
00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 3: Because people don't get what you're doing. So you figured

644
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 3: because you don't get it, nobody else will get it.

645
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 3: So I'm going to stop you from doing it. Because

646
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 3: I always I miss the days where listen, it wasn't

647
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 3: my copaty and all I had to do is not

648
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:13,439
Speaker 3: watch that part.

649
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, that part.

650
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 2: Sometimes I feel like the people who created cancel culture

651
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: grew up in a household whose parents weren't innovative enough

652
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 2: to talk to them when they got in trouble. All

653
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: they know is to punish.

654
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 3: You know what.

655
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 2: I don't like what you did go in the court.

656
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: When we talk about this a lot, because I often

657
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Speaker 1: think that in situations nowadays that we see when people

658
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Speaker 1: are becoming canceled, I'm like, that is such a beautiful

659
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Speaker 1: opportunity not to shame and shun a person, but to

660
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Speaker 1: offer education and learning and conversation that can help, because

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Speaker 1: I think that most times people react out of fear

662
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Speaker 1: or ignorance and they shut other people down because they

663
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Speaker 1: just don't know how to react. But in turn, you

664
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Speaker 1: could have a healthy dialogue that shows two different perspectives

665
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Speaker 1: coming to a space where the result can be I

666
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Speaker 1: don't agree, you don't agree, but we can mutually agree

667
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Speaker 1: to disagree and respect each other.

668
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Speaker 3: But yeah, and even when you know you don't agree,

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Speaker 3: then don't.

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Speaker 1: Go the exactly.

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Speaker 2: Don't engage, you know what.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing. No one is. No one is forcing

673
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Speaker 3: anyone to go and participate. You're you don't you don't

674
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Speaker 3: dig drag queens, then don't go to a drag show.

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Speaker 3: You don't like h gay marriage, don't go to a

676
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Speaker 3: gay wedding. You know you don't have You are not

677
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Speaker 3: obligated in this country to do anything you are not

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Speaker 3: comfortable doing. I don't see why I understand that and

679
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Speaker 3: you don't.

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Speaker 1: Same, And I don't understand what we talk about.

681
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Speaker 2: I don't understand why if we're supposed to be the

682
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Speaker 2: land of the free, we can't be if that's literally

683
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Speaker 2: saying you can't be free to do what you want to.

684
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Speaker 2: It's only a double standard in that sense because people, well,

685
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: this country is run this way. No it's not. It's actually,

686
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Speaker 2: don't kill nobody on purpose, and like, don't steal for me,

687
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: move on, get out of my business, and move on.

688
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Speaker 1: I think, what do you guys think about the personality

689
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Speaker 1: that feels entitled enough or inclined to have to do

690
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Speaker 1: those things? Like I am kind of fascinated by the

691
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Speaker 1: mental psychology of the human who looks at let's say,

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Speaker 1: a gay couple and goes iogross in their head and

693
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Speaker 1: then thinks that they have to say eogross or.

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Speaker 2: Have you change policies for those people not to get

695
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Speaker 2: with it, feels.

696
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Speaker 1: Inclined to like send me a message in my DMS

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Speaker 1: to tell me that I'm going to hell, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: what do you not have anything else to do in

699
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Speaker 1: your damn day? Like you don't have a kid or

700
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Speaker 1: a dirty dig You.

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Speaker 3: Know the response to that, you know, the response to

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Speaker 3: your going to hell?

703
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Speaker 2: Huh?

704
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Speaker 3: See you there totally.

705
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Speaker 1: I know. My response is always on a bullet train, bitch,

706
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Speaker 1: like let's go see you all the way things. I

707
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Speaker 1: just don't get it because I don't relate to that

708
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Speaker 1: at all in myself, because we don't do it.

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Speaker 3: You don't do that, you're not in other people's business.

710
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Speaker 3: It's like, what do you care who I love? Why

711
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Speaker 3: is it important that you tell me about who I love?

712
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Speaker 3: What I'm not telling you who you love. I'm not

713
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Speaker 3: going in your business, you know. And I just don't understand.

714
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Speaker 3: People say, no, you know, I don't like this, and

715
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Speaker 3: that's fantastic. I applaud the fact that you don't like it.

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Speaker 3: You don't need to do it, you don't have to go,

717
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Speaker 3: but get out of my face, because.

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Speaker 2: I do like it exactly exactly. Speaking of love and

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Speaker 2: like staying out of people's business, I just I want

720
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Speaker 2: to just dig into your business a little bit.

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Speaker 1: This is a safe space.

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Speaker 2: But sometimes, honestly, when I was around you, I loved

723
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Speaker 2: you so much, like I just wanted to be up

724
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Speaker 2: underneath the titty the whole time. But that's also because

725
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Speaker 2: you just kind of gave me lesbian and vibe.

726
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Speaker 3: It was easy just lift up and put on this book,

727
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Speaker 3: put them over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah shit, But like sometimes whoops, you give me lesbian vibes,

729
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Speaker 2: you give me, like stud vibes.

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Speaker 1: I think this is actually just a secret fantasy of

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Speaker 1: raven Is. I think she just wants everyone to be

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Speaker 1: gay and she's just really hoping you're going to come

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Speaker 1: out right here, right now.

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Speaker 2: So if you want to tell us anything, whoops, you're

735
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Speaker 2: more than welcome.

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Speaker 3: Women have been asking me this for as long as

737
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Speaker 3: I've been around. I am not a lesbian, but I

738
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Speaker 3: know lots of them and I've played them on television,

739
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Speaker 3: you know. But you know, I have always had lesbian

740
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Speaker 3: friends because they're just my friends, you know. And it's like, well,

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Speaker 3: that's I'm not going to kiss you, but I'll kiss

742
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Speaker 3: you over here. I'll do this, but I'm not going

743
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Speaker 3: to do this, And I'm like.

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Speaker 2: Okay, which makes me happy because I can also say,

745
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Speaker 2: you know, to all those people who judge the lesbian

746
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Speaker 2: community or the gay community, there is something beautiful about

747
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Speaker 2: a woman being a able to embrace their masculine and

748
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Speaker 2: feminine at the same time and wear it so well

749
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Speaker 2: like you do. And I'm just saying it's like, it's fantastic.

750
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Speaker 2: You're not either one or the other. You're just a

751
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Speaker 2: human living in your body and it doesn't really correlate

752
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Speaker 2: to sexual orientation or any of that. It's just the

753
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Speaker 2: way you present and it's so warming. And I think

754
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Speaker 2: that's another reason you've succeeded in the industry, because you know,

755
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Speaker 2: there's some women out there it's like, all right, put

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Speaker 2: them away, thank you so much. Or then there's some

757
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Speaker 2: women it's like, okay, you're not a Okay, calm down,

758
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Speaker 2: calm down, take your hand off your cross.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: But you live in this duality so well, and I

761
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Speaker 2: just want to applaud.

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Speaker 1: You for that.

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Speaker 3: Well. Thanks, But you do know that that God created

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Speaker 3: us in a duality. I mean, if we if we

765
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Speaker 3: believe that Adam was God made Adam yep. And then

766
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Speaker 3: Adam said, look, I need some company. I need a friend.

767
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Speaker 3: He started singing, I need a man, perhaps a man

768
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Speaker 3: like you. But then guy said you need a man?

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Speaker 3: He said, well not at the moment. Can you make

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Speaker 3: me a friend? And what did God do? Went into

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Speaker 3: Adam's body, removed a rib. Okay, let me do. I'm

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Speaker 3: Magan from here. So we are a duality, we're both

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Speaker 3: God does not make mistakes.

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Speaker 1: I agree.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So you know when people say, oh, you know

776
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Speaker 3: it's this or it's that it isn't this or that,

777
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Speaker 3: it just is.

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Speaker 1: When you're on the best podcast ever, we do something

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Speaker 1: called spinning a wheel, and that just is. It's what

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Speaker 1: we do. So Raven's going to spin this wheel. It's

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Speaker 1: going to land on a random word will Bee. We

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Speaker 1: don't know what it is, and then we're all going

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Speaker 1: to talk about it, all right, And the word is magicians.

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Speaker 5: Oh he's a great magician in Manhattan called Ossi Wind.

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Speaker 5: If you get back here, this guy, I've never seen

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Speaker 5: anything like this Assi Wind.

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Speaker 3: It's he is extraordinary.

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Speaker 2: Why why is the Extraordinaries better than Blackstone? Keep going?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Because he So we get there and everyone who

790
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 3: is in this this audience, about four hundred people maybe

791
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 3: less writes their name on a name tag, which he

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Speaker 3: then takes, and the people who are sitting at the

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Speaker 3: table this audience members at the table. He takes all

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Speaker 3: the name tags and he mixes him up, so when

795
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Speaker 3: he's calling for somebody, he just picks up a name tag.

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Speaker 3: He ended up picking up a name tag of Stephanie,

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Speaker 3: who works in my office. And he said, I'm going

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Speaker 3: to pick up these tags and I'm just gonna hand

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Speaker 3: you the tag. The other tags I picked up. So

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Speaker 3: he mixes them up again, and he picks up two

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Speaker 3: more tags and gives them to her, I think. And

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Speaker 3: then he says, so take a look at him and

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Speaker 3: if there's anybody that you know and there, then put

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Speaker 3: them in your pocket. And then he says, so give

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Speaker 3: me the other two and he writes a note to that.

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00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 3: Now she hasn't looked to see. She just knows that

807
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Speaker 3: she knows this person. She doesn't know the other people

808
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Speaker 3: in the things. So he says to her, I'm going

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Speaker 3: to write a note to this person, and I want

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Speaker 3: you to just put it in your pocket. So the

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Speaker 3: two of us know, but nobody else knows.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 3: So she puts the note in her pocket and close

814
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Speaker 3: to the end of the show, he says, you still

815
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Speaker 3: have that note I gave you, and she says, yes,

816
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Speaker 3: she said. He says, give it to the person who

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Speaker 3: who you knew that in the group of people there.

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Speaker 3: So she hands it to the man. He says to him,

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Speaker 3: so read what it says, and it says, hi Jonathan

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Speaker 3: wo Okay, Okay, Now this guy is extraordinary.

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Speaker 1: That's wild.

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Speaker 3: As he went wild.

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Speaker 1: We went to an event recently and a man came

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Speaker 1: up to us and he said he was a magician,

825
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Speaker 1: and he handed us his business card, and then he

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Speaker 1: asked us to write a word on a notepad, and

827
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Speaker 1: he handed us a pendent a notepad and he said,

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Speaker 1: write anything you want. And I wrote the word gushers.

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Speaker 1: And he had his back to us as we wrote them.

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Speaker 2: He was actually at the bar. He was like ordering

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Speaker 2: a drink.

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Speaker 1: So then we ripped the piece of paper off, crumple

833
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Speaker 1: it up, put it in our pocket. He comes back,

834
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Speaker 1: takes a notepad, and I said to Raven, I was like,

835
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Speaker 1: write so faintly, because I thought maybe what he was

836
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Speaker 1: going to do was have the pressure from the paper

837
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Speaker 1: would leave the impression on the next piece of Okay,

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Speaker 1: So he wrote so faintly. We check it with nothing.

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Speaker 1: We give him back the pad of paper. He doesn't

840
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Speaker 1: even look at it. He takes his pad and pen

841
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Speaker 1: puts it back and he goes, okay, okay, And he

842
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Speaker 1: starts kind of doing this and thinking, and he goes,

843
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Speaker 1: I'm getting candy, no kids snack, and then all of

844
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Speaker 1: a sudden it goes gushers. And I was like, what,

845
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Speaker 1: how in the actual fuck did you just do that?

846
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Speaker 1: Like I was so mind blown mentalism. It was what, Yeah, mentalism.

847
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Speaker 2: Mentalism is a thing.

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Speaker 1: So she reads believe in magic.

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Speaker 2: I believe there is a type of magic. I don't.

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Speaker 2: I understand mentalism is different. I don't think that that's magic.

851
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 2: I think that's mentalism. I think that's understanding the human

852
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: brain and what we go to. I think there are illusionists.

853
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 3: Because okay, what the fuck? Because he did he did

854
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 3: shit where you know, I always watch magicians. I always

855
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 3: watched them because it's easy for me to catch Yes, yes,

856
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 3: I was. You know, you would have thought I was

857
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Speaker 3: Sherlock Holmes with a big thing like this looking to

858
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Speaker 3: see him. This kid, this man was amazing, amazing.

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00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 2: There are so many celebrities that love magic. And I

860
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 2: bring that up because I just wanted to name drop.

861
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 2: You know, my who's no longer here, Muhammad Ali was

862
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 2: a part of the Magicians Club, and he always had

863
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 2: this coin trick and I'm like, sir, you can't do

864
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 2: this coin trick. I'm three, like, you can't do nothing.

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Speaker 2: You kee you over here shaken. That's rude, But I

866
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 2: love him. He's shaking doing a coin katy shit and

867
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 2: loves it. There are so many you with your I

868
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 2: feel like, as actors or as people in the industry

869
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 2: that understand entertainment, we're a little bit more skeptical because

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Speaker 2: we know of the gimme gotcha, that is what it is.

871
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 2: But I do believe in magic in a sense of

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00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 2: vibrational energy, female magic, you.

873
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: Know, all that magic power is such a real thing.

874
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: It is such a real thing.

875
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: I see that when I watch women give birth. I mean,

876
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: that is absolutely infectious, and that is a strength and

877
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: a power in a magic. I mean, I think that

878
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: we have magic in our lives every day. Yeah. I

879
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: mean honestly, Raven and I recently had a blood test

880
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,240
Speaker 1: done and we were able to actually see our blood

881
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: under a microscope. And I was looking at my cells

882
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: and they were just like moving and floating and they

883
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: looked like cute little doughnuts and they were just like

884
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 1: living their life. And I was like, wow, I am

885
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: a this is magic. This is absolutely like magic School Bush.

886
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 3: Magic.

887
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:31,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's magic school.

888
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 2: You you write, Babes, Magic School Bush. That was my

889
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 2: favorite show, you right, I like that show. It's such

890
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 2: a good show.

891
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: That's a great show. But I mean there's I think

892
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: that there's magic all around us all the time.

893
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 2: If we look through that loan, Whoopy's house is magical.

894
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 2: I've been to Whoopy's house. We've both been to her house.

895
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 2: We have a special room. It's called the Miranda Raven Room.

896
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 2: I know she doesn't know about this, but we called

897
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 2: it that. And it's a beautiful view of the backyard

898
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 2: slash sideyard. But she has some magical ornaments in her

899
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 2: house and not in as well. We're not gonna talk

900
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 2: about the real magical one that you're not allowed to

901
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 2: look in the eye. Won't bring that up. But your

902
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 2: your tokens of your life, I think hold magical things,

903
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 2: Like if you could share with us some a token

904
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 2: in your house. It's like this came from the Dali Lama.

905
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 2: That's one of your magical tokens. Like, can you share

906
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 2: one of those magical things with us?

907
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm gonna show

908
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 3: you one that's magical to me and I don't know why, but.

909
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 2: Oh you did a kiddy. It's a black and white

910
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: cat statue.

911
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 3: This cat, it looks like Tim Burton made it in

912
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 3: a funny way. That's exactly right. I don't think he

913
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 3: did this cat just says stuff to me. You don't

914
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 3: have any reason be pissed off today. You got no

915
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 3: reason to be pissed off. You could be me. I

916
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 3: could be and she goes off, you go off, you go.

917
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 1: You are color coordinated. It's perfection.

918
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 2: Oh I love that.

919
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 3: I love that. Yes, she's just magical. And you know,

920
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 3: I have pictures of people who have been instrumental in

921
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 3: making me love the magic that is just the human element,

922
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 3: you know, like the Dalai Lama because his you know,

923
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 3: his attitude is there's lots in the world that's terrible,

924
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 3: but there's lots in the world that's magnificent. And we

925
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 3: can talk about the terrible things, but let us not

926
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 3: forget that there are magnificent things in the world as well.

927
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 3: And I keep that with me. And if you you know,

928
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 3: if you were to go on Amazon, there's a there's

929
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 3: a thing of his that you can buy that my

930
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 3: brother bought years ago that sat in his house and

931
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 3: after he passed, I couldn't find it. And then about

932
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 3: a year later I was going through some of his

933
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 3: stuff and it was like, well, where the fuck did

934
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 3: this come from? Because this is too big to have

935
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 3: been sitting in here. But you know, I believe that

936
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 3: it made its way to the house. It got here.

937
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 3: I don't know how it got here. I don't know

938
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 3: how it got in the door. I don't know how

939
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 3: it got in the closet. But when I opened the

940
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 3: closet was like, hey, I was like, where did you

941
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 3: come from? And it was just me. You know. So

942
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 3: magic happens all the time. People get scared of it

943
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 3: because you we think, oh, you know, what was that?

944
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: What was that?

945
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,919
Speaker 3: Well, whatever it was, you're still breathing, so it must

946
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 3: have been.

947
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: Friendly, friendly, you know.

948
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 3: So magical stuff is everywhere. I think, I agree, and

949
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 3: we just have to say, Okay, I don't know how

950
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 3: that happened, but I'm glad it did.

951
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 2: Me too too, And I think magic magicians. Again, I'm

952
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 2: going to bring it back to entertainment, and you were

953
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 2: saying it's a little bit earlier. And I say this

954
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 2: a lot now, especially in my interviews, because I don't

955
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 2: have another way to put it. But what comedians do

956
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 2: as like a spoonful of sugar, we help the medicine

957
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 2: go down. We tell the truth. It comes from a

958
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 2: place of pain, to be honest. A lot of the times,

959
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 2: like I have this understanding that the real truth, the

960
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 2: hard truth, the painful truth. If you're a true, a

961
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 2: real one, you can make it funny, you can turn

962
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 2: it around. And I bring that up to say, the

963
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 2: magic of the comedian is that to take those moments

964
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 2: and manipulate it to where you're laughing.

965
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: Now.

966
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 2: I just think that that, I think that is also

967
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 2: a magical or a magician.

968
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 3: In a way. I agree, Yeah, yeah, we are. We

969
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 3: are quite good people those who make people laugh, Yeah,

970
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 3: for sure. And you you know your magician, you're a healer.

971
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 3: You're doing all kinds of stuff that you don't even

972
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 3: know you're doing, but that's what's happening. And our truth,

973
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 3: you know your truth as you know it is your truth.

974
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 3: And so you put your truth out there and you

975
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 3: say this is this is the truth as I see it,

976
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 3: and other people say that's what I see too. Oh okay, yeah,

977
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 3: and we all have our truths. There are factual truths

978
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 3: and then there are truth truths.

979
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 2: Speak of saying one moti.

980
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 3: There are factual truths and then there are truth truths.

981
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 2: Honey, if y'all don't if you don't, tat that on

982
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 2: your arm right now to realize how important sentence. It's

983
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 2: it's so real. I talk about it every day. Just

984
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 2: there are two things can be real. But one thing

985
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 2: is a truth for me, and one thing is a

986
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 2: truth for you. And then white is actually white. That

987
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 2: is a factual truth. There's a white color and it

988
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 2: looks that way. Everything else is all up in the middle.

989
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 2: It's it's crazy. Sorry, I'm like overtaking the combo babes.

990
00:52:58,080 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: You know you're great, go for it.

991
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 2: Have you ever dealt with like, like, I'll tell you

992
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 2: my story first, Like you met me super young. Your

993
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 2: story of meeting me is hilarious. I don't know if

994
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 2: a lot of people think, but she said she was

995
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 2: scared of me. I was a weird little child.

996
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: Did she ever tell you this?

997
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 3: She was this big and she's like oh. I was like, hey,

998
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 3: what the fuck was that? What was that?

999
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: She was like a little puppet.

1000
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 3: In a funny way. It was like wait a minute,

1001
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 3: Wait a minute. She's like, oh, then I dog what yuh,

1002
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 3: I'm out here doing my thing, look at my work.

1003
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 3: It's like, go ahead, I told you I'm six.

1004
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, yeah, there's a picture. There's a

1005
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 2: picture of me on her lap.

1006
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: I don't doubt this at all. I also would imagine

1007
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: you'd be.

1008
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 2: Like, and I drove here in my Corvette, Bye will

1009
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 2: be probably almost almost What is that Night of a thousand?

1010
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 2: Night of one hundred st Was that like that night?

1011
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: Ooh?

1012
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 3: We talk?

1013
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 2: Okay, I was going onto something else, but I was.

1014
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 2: We were having a conversation with the Lawrence brothers a

1015
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 2: couple of days ago and just talking about the industry

1016
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 2: and the way that it's changed, Like what is our

1017
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 2: version of Night of about one hundred stars? Like that's

1018
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 2: it's so gone and done with.

1019
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 3: Anyway.

1020
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 2: What I was actually coming to talk about was I've

1021
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 2: been in the industry since I was sixteen months old.

1022
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 2: I'm thirty seven now, and through that have dealt with

1023
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 2: all kinds of things, great successes, losses, failures, wins, mental health.

1024
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 2: And I just wanted to ask you, and forgive me

1025
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:38,919
Speaker 2: if I don't know this or if you've talked about

1026
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 2: it in the industry, but have you ever dealt with

1027
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 2: anything in the mental health world? Being that you are

1028
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 2: a comedian. That mostly because I know the stress that

1029
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 2: comes from a live television show where you have to

1030
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 2: debate people on an everyday fucking basis and sometimes those

1031
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 2: people be on a period and don't know when to

1032
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 2: shut up. And sometimes those people don't know that this

1033
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 2: is a television show, not real life. Shut up, like

1034
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 2: do it?

1035
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: And everyone is like jumping down your throat, waiting for

1036
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: a moment to make you go viral or blow you

1037
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: up or to cancel you or so how do you

1038
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: deal with that? I'm stressed and sweating right now when Zan.

1039
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 2: Pits talking about how do I talk about it without

1040
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 2: talking about it?

1041
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 3: How do you do it?

1042
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: How do you do how do you do it?

1043
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 3: I just I you know, listen, I don't go out

1044
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 3: to create an issue. Other people say, oh you did this,

1045
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,720
Speaker 3: and it was like, okay, that wasn't my intention, but okay,

1046
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 3: and I try to remember that, you know, it is

1047
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 3: I'm paid to do a job, and so I try

1048
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 3: to do it. This is what I think, this is

1049
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 3: what I do. This blah blah blah, and other people

1050
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 3: have to deal with it, you know. And when I

1051
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:59,919
Speaker 3: first started with the job, you know, Barbara was really great.

1052
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 3: She said, listen, everybody's not going to like your thought process.

1053
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 3: Everybody's not going to understand where you're coming from, and

1054
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 3: people are going to get really mad at you, but

1055
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 3: I've got you.

1056
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 2: That's what would be said to me when I got there.

1057
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's like, this is this You have

1058
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 3: to know that this is what you face when you say,

1059
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 3: this is not what somebody else thinks, this is what

1060
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 3: I think. Because half the country doesn't agree with you,

1061
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 3: and it's okay that they don't. That's the purpose of

1062
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 3: the show. So you know, I never felt that I

1063
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 3: was on the edge because you know, day one, I

1064
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 3: got in trouble and they were like, listen, we get it,

1065
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 3: but they don't understand. So just know we got you

1066
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 3: and it's okay. And I've always proceeded that way. So

1067
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 3: you know, I've been there a long time. And so

1068
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 3: now I and the world has changed a whole bunch,

1069
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 3: and so that at that world that was out there

1070
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 3: has come closer. Now they're not here, but they're closer.

1071
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 3: And their ability to embrace a different idea seems to

1072
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 3: have gotten harder for people because they keep telling us

1073
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 3: that that we're in a culture war. Well, you were

1074
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 3: only in a war if you believe you're in a war.

1075
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 3: I don't believe I'm in a war, so I don't

1076
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 3: I don't respond to it. Like I'm in a war.

1077
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 3: I want to understand what you want to tell me,

1078
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 3: and then I want you to understand what I want

1079
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 3: to tell you, and we can. You know, because I've

1080
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 3: always had friends who were different than I was. Whether

1081
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 3: they were Republicans or they were uh, Communists, it didn't

1082
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 3: you know, it didn't matter what their what, what their

1083
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 3: political thing was. You know, there was more to the

1084
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 3: friendship than just that. And and the sad thing is,

1085
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 3: I think in these days people don't allow for people

1086
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 3: to have differences of thought process. Now you have to

1087
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 3: sort of confer conform, and that's I've never been good

1088
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 3: with that because my mother allowed me to be myself

1089
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 3: my whole life. So I don't know why I would

1090
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 3: change for somebody I don't know. You know, I knew

1091
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 3: my mother.

1092
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: You know she sounds magical, She does sound she sounds magical.

1093
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, even in the in the naming

1094
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: of Whoope Gouldberg, now that we know our word as magician,

1095
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: the first thing I thought was like, Wow, there's a

1096
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: magical essence to that. And just in hearing everything you

1097
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: said will be I just want to take a moment

1098
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: to say thank you, thank you, because your energy, like

1099
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: right now, it makes me almost feel emotional. And when

1100
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: I first met you, I felt something, and not because

1101
00:58:56,440 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: I knew who you were, but really because on an

1102
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 1: energetic level, you offer something that is so pure and

1103
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: so unique. And I think that people in your life

1104
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: would all know what I'm speaking to. Yep, people who

1105
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: have been touched by you would understand it. But unless

1106
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: you have been in your space, I don't think you

1107
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: can really articulate it, which I'm not really doing, but

1108
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: I'll say it's even But I'm correcting myself though, because

1109
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 1: it's not even people who have to be in your

1110
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: physical presence. I think it radiates out in everything that

1111
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: you've done and everything you continue to do, and you

1112
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 1: truly are. I see you as like this magical spark

1113
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 1: of light and stardust almost and I just want to

1114
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: say thank you because it's you're You're a rare, rare,

1115
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: deeply special human. And when I first came into your

1116
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: home and in meeting Raven and all of that, the

1117
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: magic that I felt and I am it did feel

1118
00:59:55,240 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 1: magical was so profound and impacted me and I just

1119
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: I just I love you. I think you're such a special,

1120
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: beautiful human.

1121
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 2: I want to try to piggyback off of it too,

1122
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 2: because there is a feeling like I can be on

1123
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 2: the phone with you. I'm gonna call you, Auntie. I'm

1124
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 2: gonna be on the phone with you, Auntie, or I

1125
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 2: can be on your presence and I just smile from

1126
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 2: the heart forward. And I do agree that unless you've

1127
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 2: been in her actual presence and she's let you in

1128
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,479
Speaker 2: and like even just done this, you're not gonna fully

1129
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 2: understand the magic that is will be Goldberg. You see

1130
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 2: her on screen, there's a separate connection. You think of,

1131
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 2: you know, Clay being done. You think of all the

1132
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 2: characters from past, but you're not understanding the three name

1133
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 2: their government, name like who that human is right and

1134
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 2: who that person has created in order to face the world.

1135
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 2: And it's not broken. It's not this broken soul going

1136
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 2: around with celebrity around it. It feels intact. It feels

1137
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 2: from source. So it brings us hope and it brings

1138
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 2: us comfort, like I feel like a warm blank is

1139
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 2: on my body when I'm around Whoops. Which is why

1140
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 2: even when I was on a show with her, I

1141
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 2: I knew that I would be in trouble, but I

1142
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 2: knew that she had my back like she talked about,

1143
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 2: because she has like this motherly, like mother Teresa type ship,

1144
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 2: like not trying to blow up your head, you know

1145
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 2: what it is like I'm not I'm not really gonna

1146
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 2: look at you when I say it is it's like

1147
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 2: some mother Teresa type ship when you talk to and

1148
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 2: I have a.

1149
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,919
Speaker 1: Mother named Teresa. And it's still, yes, and it's the same, it's.

1150
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 3: Still and it's not forget to bring up the asshole.

1151
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 1: That is awesome, and that's the balance.

1152
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 3: It's all but seen but a lot of people have

1153
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 3: and it's she's really she's rough, you know, she's rough,

1154
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 3: and it takes a very long time for me to

1155
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 3: get to her. And then once she unleashes, it's really

1156
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 3: like not nice.

1157
01:01:55,680 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 2: She was she ever unleashed during the photo shoot with Librawitz.

1158
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, your photo shoot with Annie Lebowitz. That photo, Yeah,

1159
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: she's just naked.

1160
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 3: Milk. I'm an asshole, yeah, depending on what day you

1161
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 3: saw me. But you know, cats followed me for weeks

1162
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 3: after that fule photo shoot.

1163
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 1: Stop it wait, I have a question about that.

1164
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 3: How did I.

1165
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:29,919
Speaker 1: Probably seem to love a cat? How did that come

1166
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 1: to be was Annie, like, I want to put you

1167
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: in a bathtub of milk, and you were like, for sure,

1168
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 1: kind of.

1169
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 3: I think Rolling Stones said we want to do something

1170
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 3: with you. I'm not sure. I think it. I think

1171
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:46,919
Speaker 3: that's how it happened. And I said, Okay, whatever you want.

1172
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 3: I'm very easy, you know. And when you have people

1173
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 3: who do things for a living, who are magnificent, you

1174
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 3: know you want to put me on the back of

1175
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 3: a rocket buck naked with a chili dog in my hand, Sure.

1176
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 2: Let's go and better be a Nathan's. Otherwise, don't talk.

1177
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 3: To me because I know I know that you know

1178
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 3: you know what you're doing and this picture is going

1179
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 3: to be insane and like unlike anything else I'll ever do.

1180
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 3: And I was right. I was never, never ever going

1181
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 3: to get in another bathtub full of milk.

1182
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 2: I could be this person and say, could you look

1183
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 2: at that as a little bit of racism.

1184
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 3: Other people have brought that up. I don't. I think

1185
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 3: that we were in existing. We were existing in a

1186
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 3: time when you know, we were just doing, Hey, let's

1187
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 3: do something really funky, you know, and you're emerging and unite,

1188
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 3: you're coming through the milky way, You're just emerging. It's like, cool,

1189
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 3: What do you want me to do? You want me

1190
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 3: to sit up like Dracula? She said, not like Dracula,

1191
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 3: because then you're you're dripping, but sit up like I'm here.

1192
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 3: It's like cool, And that's what I did.

1193
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 2: And it was like yeah, yah, yeah, it was so good.

1194
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 3: And honestly said, you know, my god, you're you're breaking

1195
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 3: into the white world. And I chuckled because I've said,

1196
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 3: you know, I don't want to shock you. But I've

1197
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 3: been here the whole.

1198
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 2: Time, preach, preaching the whole time.

1199
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 3: I'm not breaking in. You know, maybe it's breaking up

1200
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 3: around me, but I've always been here. And people said, yeah,

1201
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 3: you're right. What am I thinking?

1202
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 1: I sign?

1203
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1204
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 2: They didn't know, they didn't know who they were talking to.

1205
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 1: It's such an up. Do you have the photo?

1206
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, she has it on a book.

1207
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 1: Remember she has it.

1208
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 3: This is my book is in my I'm in my

1209
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 3: office and it's over there on this thing this holding up.

1210
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 2: This is like a music stand.

1211
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 3: I remember that. It's different covers for her book, A

1212
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 3: Lee Boys and so mine is one of the covers.

1213
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 3: I bought the cover with be on it as you

1214
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 3: get myself clearly obviously. I mean that.

1215
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 1: You said you're down for most things, and I was

1216
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 1: wondering if you wanted to play a game with us. Sure, well,

1217
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 1: here's the.

1218
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 3: Great games, but I'm interested in them.

1219
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 1: We have no idea what this game is just yet.

1220
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 1: Our producer is gonna let us know. But we're going

1221
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 1: to play a game.

1222
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 2: But you get to win a prize, so don't worry

1223
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 2: about it.

1224
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 1: Yes, you get a prize. We'll bring it to you.

1225
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 1: It's you're playing for a silk pajama set.

1226
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 2: Okay. We know some of the world's best magicians have

1227
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 2: pulled off mind blowing and science defying tricks over the

1228
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 2: history of time, over the history, over the history of time,

1229
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 2: and so we decided to find some of the greatest

1230
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 2: magic tricks ever performed and mix them up and some

1231
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 2: bullshit we just totally made up as well. But anyway,

1232
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 2: we see if you can. We want to see if

1233
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,919
Speaker 2: you can tell us which tricks actually happened and which

1234
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 2: are totally fake.

1235
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 1: So what we're going to do is we're going to

1236
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 1: read you a magic trick, and then you're going to

1237
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 1: decide if a magician really pulled it off or if

1238
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 1: we took an edible and just wrote some bullshit down.

1239
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 2: I like to micro doves, thank you very much.

1240
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 1: Well, you know, if you get two of the five correct,

1241
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,959
Speaker 1: you get to win the Silk Pajama set, which here's

1242
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 1: the deal, will be everyone who comes on our podcasts

1243
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 1: to play a game and potentially win a gift. And Raven,

1244
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 1: who I love so much, kind of likes to hoard things,

1245
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 1: so this is from her hoard of gifts and things

1246
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 1: that I want out of the house. And this is

1247
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, donating to a good cause.

1248
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 3: So there's no possibility of winning the Lime Slice.

1249
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 1: If you want the Lime Slide, you get whatever you want.

1250
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 1: You want the Lime Slice, I.

1251
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 3: Would like if I win, I would like the Limeside

1252
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 3: because I don't wear pjs.

1253
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 1: She wants lime pillows, not pj's.

1254
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 2: You are getting the lime pillow, which means I can

1255
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 2: buy Is that because you sleep naked?

1256
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 3: No, it just me I don't sleep in pajamas, hoodies

1257
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 3: and weird stuff.

1258
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 1: Cozy, Okay.

1259
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 2: The liman is first of all, thank you, because if

1260
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 2: I when we listen, when we when we're in the bed,

1261
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 2: she's like, take off your day clothes. I'm like, why

1262
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 2: they're so comfy? Let me just finish the stay in them.

1263
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I don't. Sometimes I just get under

1264
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 3: the covers and that's what it is. The only things

1265
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 3: I take off is on my shoes. Sometimes I have

1266
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 3: one sock. Sometimes, you know, I don't wear under garments.

1267
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 3: So but I just I love whatever it is. Got it?

1268
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 1: Okay, let's play. Here we go. Japanese and French illusionist

1269
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 1: Cyril Takayama had the world gasping when he performed the

1270
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 1: illusion of removing his own head, a trick that has

1271
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 1: since gone viral numerous times on YouTube. Real or did

1272
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 1: we just make that up?

1273
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 3: Oh? Sure, it's real?

1274
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 1: She says it's real. Says it's real. Yeah, you're correct.

1275
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 1: You're one away from a lime slice. Who good job,

1276
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 1: Good job.

1277
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 2: It to you, okay. Las Vegas magician Melinda Sachs debuted

1278
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 2: the Drill of Death, a large scale stage illusion in

1279
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 2: which it appeared she was fully impaled on a giant drill.

1280
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 2: Her legs, shoulders, arms, and head remained in full view

1281
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,639
Speaker 2: while the tip of the drill rotates and spun around

1282
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 2: her limp body. Real or do we just make that

1283
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:30,640
Speaker 2: ship up?

1284
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 3: Because you couldn't read it. I'm gonna say it probably happened.

1285
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:39,759
Speaker 1: That's a good theory.

1286
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 2: It's real, Lime slic slice.

1287
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 3: You want, you want one.

1288
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:52,720
Speaker 2: More for fun?

1289
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 1: One more for fun?

1290
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 2: Okay, it's coming.

1291
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:04,679
Speaker 1: Superstar mentalist duo Shimmer did the unthinkable when they correctly

1292
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 1: guess the names of over three hundred audience members parents,

1293
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 1: even noting when people had deceased moms or dads by

1294
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 1: pinning down the year they died. Real or did I

1295
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 1: just pull that out my ass? Shimmer Shimmer, that's their name,

1296
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 1: Shimmer Shimmer.

1297
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 3: I'm not sure about Shimo. I'm not sure about Shimmer.

1298
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 3: They might be real, but they fake. It feels a

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Speaker 3: little I don't know, feels I don't know, but it's

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Speaker 3: probably real.

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Speaker 1: So we're locking in real now she's locked in fake. Oh,

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Speaker 1: you're right.

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Speaker 3: We'll be so good.

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Speaker 1: You went both of the pillows, God damn it, so

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Speaker 1: you can definitely have Okay, this this has been magical,

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Speaker 1: has been truly magical.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for me. Well, it's nice to talk to y'all.

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Speaker 1: Nice to talk to you as well.

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Speaker 2: And I'm glad that you're in this seat this time,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Like we get to know you can I say one

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Speaker 1: thing that I didn't get a chance to say that

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Speaker 1: is such a core memory of mine, or like an

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Speaker 1: imprinted memory, is the Thanksgiving that we had at your house.

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Speaker 1: It was truly one of my most magical Thanksgivings ever.

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Speaker 1: You basted that turkey all night, a bro, it was

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Speaker 1: the best turkey I have ever had to this day.

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Speaker 1: Raven and I came into that house and we cooked

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Speaker 1: up every other side dish and you were just like,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the turkey and then y'all do what

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Speaker 1: you want in my kitchen. And then at one point,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember this will be you

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Speaker 1: looked at me and you said, hey, Miranda, I have

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Speaker 1: a question for you. And I said okay, and you said,

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Speaker 1: what does it feel like to be the token white person?

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Speaker 1: And I looked around and I was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I'm the only white person. I hadn't even realized. And

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Speaker 1: it was just the most perfect Thanksgiving, the most magical day.

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Speaker 1: And I just needed to say that.

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Speaker 3: It was a great day and there are more great

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Speaker 3: days to be had a month. Yes, just I adore

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Speaker 3: the two of you, as you know, and I can't

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Speaker 3: wait till we break Brett again. And I just want

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Speaker 3: to say thanks to your audience for you know, sitting

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Speaker 3: with the old lady.

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Speaker 1: Hey, they're very lucky.

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Speaker 2: The Best Podcast Ever is an iHeart podcast produced and

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Speaker 2: hosted by Raven Simone and Miranda.

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Speaker 1: Executive producers Jensen Carp and Amy Sugerman, Produced and edited

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Speaker 1: by Jordan Katz.

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Speaker 2: Who also does our music. Executive in charge of production

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Speaker 2: Danielle Romo producer Hannah Winkleman.

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Speaker 1: Theme song by Kenny Siegel and Jordan kat Follow us

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Speaker 2: On Instagram at the Best Pod Ever, and send your

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Speaker 2: emails to the Best Pod Ever at gmail dot com.