Speaker 1: From my high school team. We have five guys make
Speaker 1: the NBA. We head the County Rocket gets some mecca
Speaker 1: of basketball. Here are those who come before us, upon
Speaker 1: whose shoulders we stand. It's nothing that you can do
Speaker 1: to stop the competitive and there's just in the water.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to a special quarantine edition. We got a
Speaker 1: real special guys. What's up with your Brodie with the
Speaker 1: virtual handshake. I'm gonna tell you something that I never
Speaker 1: told nobody. I want to smoke. Welcome back to another
Speaker 1: quarantine edition of all the Smoke coming to you from
Speaker 1: l A. My brother Jack's in the bay. My bad,
Speaker 1: My brother Jack is in the A. I wish I
Speaker 1: was in the bay. Straight up. I'm sad. I got
Speaker 1: rid of my house out there. Man. That ship was
Speaker 1: the spot up in the hills. Said, was that ship
Speaker 1: hurt my soul? To my ship hurt my soul to
Speaker 1: get get rid of that house, bro But it just
Speaker 1: wasn't cost efficient anymore. Excited about today's guests. Haven't got
Speaker 1: a chance to personally meet him, but I've heard a
Speaker 1: lot of great things about him. Currently playing for the
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Lakers and also an executive producer on Basketball
Speaker 1: County in the water showing right now on showtime. Welcome
Speaker 1: to Quinn Cook. What's good, bro? Family, how y'all doing? Man?
Speaker 1: I appreciate having no thanks for coming. Bro. You want
Speaker 1: to show now and you basically fail me. So I
Speaker 1: gotta tell you that you look like an e walk
Speaker 1: right now. Bro, you gotta get get cleaned up. Huh.
Speaker 1: That boy got the mountain man growing out. I'm thuking
Speaker 1: until we stil we're back outside and the world gets
Speaker 1: back going. Man, I'm talking man, you gonna let it
Speaker 1: ride out. See Hey, I was getting rough too, man,
Speaker 1: I had to. I told my barber to come in
Speaker 1: gloved up, face master, bodied up because my ship was
Speaker 1: because I started looking rough. I look in the mirror
Speaker 1: like yo, God, damn, I know I face time to
Speaker 1: come to my teammates broad uh, Keith does everybody? Everybody
Speaker 1: looks rough? So you know we're gonna keeping you still.
Speaker 1: You still, you know you can get that off women. Actually,
Speaker 1: So how's everything holding up? Man? Right now? This is
Speaker 1: obviously new to all of us. You you mentioned a
Speaker 1: few of your teammates how you been holding up during
Speaker 1: these times? It has been a unique situation for everyone.
Speaker 1: Obviously you guys can attest to that. For for me
Speaker 1: being you know, still actively playing, it's been unique. But
Speaker 1: I think our leaders and our team have have kept
Speaker 1: us with the mindset like, look, it doesn't matter how
Speaker 1: long we're quarantine, doesn't matter how law on the leagues
Speaker 1: on hold, and when we get back, we still gotta
Speaker 1: go win this thing. And guys have been speaking every day, um,
Speaker 1: you know, working out when you can. Um. A lot
Speaker 1: of guys don't have access to certain things, so we
Speaker 1: gotta improvise still. But at the same time, we got
Speaker 1: to keep that same goal to mind. And personally, I'm
Speaker 1: enjoyed this time. For me, I love the fact that
Speaker 1: that that's the mindset if and when you guys get
Speaker 1: back to work, you got the championship to win, and
Speaker 1: that's how you guys are talking, and that's how you
Speaker 1: guys are feeling. Yeah, facts, I mean, you know that's
Speaker 1: everybody who comes back. We all got to go through
Speaker 1: the same thing. I mean, everybody's saying, whoever wins it
Speaker 1: will be an asterid next to name. I don't believe
Speaker 1: that we all we all got it. We're all going
Speaker 1: through it, so I mean, and it's gonna come down
Speaker 1: up you know whose teams are closest, who didn't bullshit
Speaker 1: during this time, and you know, hopefully we can just
Speaker 1: get the league back going right. I love that you
Speaker 1: guys got a team of That's what I liked about
Speaker 1: your team. Jack picked you guys to win. I picked
Speaker 1: the Clippers. But to me, if it's not the Clippers,
Speaker 1: it'll be you. I think that the championship is going
Speaker 1: to come back to the West. But you guys have
Speaker 1: a bunch of veteran guys that have been there, done that.
Speaker 1: And then I mean, you got Lebron which is a
Speaker 1: cheap code, but you guys got a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: veterans that have won championships and been in big games,
Speaker 1: which boes well. And you even as a young player,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You won a championship with
Speaker 1: the Warriors, so you know what it's like to be close.
Speaker 1: And then I think you hit that on the head.
Speaker 1: The team to stay the closest, stay down, and stay
Speaker 1: as ready as possible, are going to have a great
Speaker 1: opportunity to win. Facts. You gotta knowle being champions, I
Speaker 1: mean our targets on our back every night, and you know,
Speaker 1: we gotta deal with a lot of ship during the year,
Speaker 1: and this is just more stuff to add on about
Speaker 1: thinking to make a story better for sure. That's so
Speaker 1: you're playing in the to that two K tournament. Who's
Speaker 1: your team and who's been your toughest battle? I want
Speaker 1: this man right now. I'll put the two K down. Man,
Speaker 1: I'll be getting crap. I ain't that good at two K.
Speaker 1: I want this man right now. I'm doing I Man,
Speaker 1: I forgot my team and two K. That's how bad
Speaker 1: I am. I ain't even mad at that. I don't
Speaker 1: play I never played See. I never played too because
Speaker 1: when I WHO, I still never really played a period.
Speaker 1: I never played two I always played MAD and I
Speaker 1: played some of the shooting games, but I never played
Speaker 1: WHO because like that was our job. I kind of
Speaker 1: want to get away from it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like just the other day, my homie See Webb, you know,
Speaker 1: shout out Chris wherever he hit me up, Like yo,
Speaker 1: I'm doing a a two K tournament and it's gonna
Speaker 1: be this is and that. I'm like, bro, I don't
Speaker 1: even I'm sorry. I don't even play two K. So
Speaker 1: I never really got into two K that much. Even
Speaker 1: I'm locked in on call of duty right now. And man,
Speaker 1: I don't play two ks. I never played it. But
Speaker 1: tell me this Q, what aspect of normal life you
Speaker 1: took for granted? You know that that that you appreciate
Speaker 1: now while in quarantine? Great question. First thing is going
Speaker 1: outside and just like you know, being able to interact
Speaker 1: with people, going to grocery stores like now, like you're
Speaker 1: very you know, aware of you know who's close to you,
Speaker 1: who's coughing, who's touching certain things, and traveling freely and
Speaker 1: just being around your family like I haven't. Like I
Speaker 1: live in the AIDS as well, and I went to
Speaker 1: the AID after this whole quarantine fourteen day thing was
Speaker 1: lifted from our team, and like my grandma lives in
Speaker 1: the A and I couldn't go see my grandma for
Speaker 1: five and attendent and have our little talks, you know that,
Speaker 1: because that that kind of hurt me. I ain't see
Speaker 1: my mom in a minute because I really we still
Speaker 1: don't understand, you know, how this virus work. So that
Speaker 1: just just being able just to move friendly and and
Speaker 1: and doing what you want to do on a daily
Speaker 1: basis is something now, you know, and learning from all
Speaker 1: this outside of playing basketball what's the first thing you
Speaker 1: want to do? Um, Once this this this band is
Speaker 1: lifted in it, it's safe to go back out outside
Speaker 1: of basketball. I'm going I'm going to a newsing park.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get on some roller coasters. I'm I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be I'm gona be back with the people. I'm you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, just be outside, would be outside
Speaker 1: but legs man, everything being man. Yeah, that's what's up.
Speaker 1: So I mentioned in earlier the doc that that UH
Speaker 1: is releasing on Showtime. H in the Water. You were
Speaker 1: an executive producer on that alone with Kevin Durant, Rich
Speaker 1: Climbing and Victor Oldwadipo. Talk to us a little bit
Speaker 1: about that because that ship is dope. Like, I didn't
Speaker 1: realize how many talented players, legends have to have came
Speaker 1: from your area p G County. Yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 1: a dream come true for me. It means the world
Speaker 1: growing up, you know, I wanted to be something there
Speaker 1: for me. I always had, you know, Katie to go
Speaker 1: um see and touch and Jerry Jack Nolan Smith Busily,
Speaker 1: Jeff Green, Victor it was my best friend growing up.
Speaker 1: Same aoutle ofmentary school and middle school, high school. Um,
Speaker 1: I just had you know, so much resources to go
Speaker 1: touch where. You know, anytime you know I slacked off
Speaker 1: or you know it was crying or wasn't on my ship,
Speaker 1: I always had those guys to you know, remind me
Speaker 1: this is the goal. And uh, for me to be
Speaker 1: ep on this, for Katie and Rich to bring me on, Um,
Speaker 1: it's something that I was doing on my own already. Um,
Speaker 1: and they brought me on and we built you know,
Speaker 1: something special and uh guys did a tremendous job with it.
Speaker 1: And I know everybody I loved. Yes see, I didn't know,
Speaker 1: I didn't know Lynn Bias was from that area. Adrian
Speaker 1: Dadley want Williams, the Mark Johnson and gotta think these
Speaker 1: are all the names that made it. But we all
Speaker 1: know people from our area that were dopest funk that
Speaker 1: just never made it for one reason or another. So
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a bunch of other legends out there
Speaker 1: that never really even got on. No, for sure, for sure,
Speaker 1: like you said, everybody from every hood, every city, we
Speaker 1: all have those guys who you know, we're more talented
Speaker 1: than us, had the same talented as us. But you know,
Speaker 1: the streets could have you know, taking them or made
Speaker 1: them make decisions that you know, they didn't reach their potential.
Speaker 1: The politics ain't work out in high school, college or whatever. So, um,
Speaker 1: you know, we're so lucky, we're so blessed to have
Speaker 1: made it as far as as we have myself and
Speaker 1: you too. You guys know that. But there's always guys,
Speaker 1: even till still to this day when you go home
Speaker 1: without playing pick up, these guys and nobody's ever heard
Speaker 1: of that. Still, you know, would be some of the
Speaker 1: best players on the court if they just you know,
Speaker 1: made some different decisions in their lives. Short absolutely, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I know. I played basketball with a lot
Speaker 1: with a got that they don't know that went to
Speaker 1: o Kill just like you did. As Chef. He rest
Speaker 1: in peace as Cheff. You know what I'm saying. He
Speaker 1: from he from around that way too. And also shout
Speaker 1: out to my man. Shout out to my man Curtis,
Speaker 1: to Curtis Malone. But tell me this, what, um, what
Speaker 1: was it like growing up in PG County? For me,
Speaker 1: it was fun. It was fun. I mean, you had
Speaker 1: so much to do. You five minutes outside of the
Speaker 1: d C, so you had the city life. It was
Speaker 1: a lot going on, and I had so much to do.
Speaker 1: My neighborhood it was so many hoopers and so many
Speaker 1: football players. Used to play throwback tackle on the concrete,
Speaker 1: will be all on the side playing one oh one
Speaker 1: thirty three. Um. It was fun. And then you start
Speaker 1: getting older, you start getting into a you, and you
Speaker 1: started getting recruited by high schools and stuff, and you
Speaker 1: got Jerry Jack and Sam Young coming back home pulling
Speaker 1: up in the Billies. You got Katie going going to
Speaker 1: the league after one year of beas they going so
Speaker 1: they got the one year. So you just got so
Speaker 1: so many dreams and aspirations being captured. So that made
Speaker 1: you go even harder. And you still had that city field,
Speaker 1: So it was fun for me. I had the ball.
Speaker 1: That's dope. So you said you built a relationship with
Speaker 1: Oliver Deepot early. What was it like teaming up with
Speaker 1: him at the matha obviously resting peach coach. What was
Speaker 1: it like playing there? And what do you what do
Speaker 1: you take from that experience the most? It was fun
Speaker 1: for me. We met in the fifth grade, y'all transferred
Speaker 1: to the school. I had no friends, and literally the
Speaker 1: first day he didn't know me. I don't know him.
Speaker 1: He came up to me. It was like, yo, if
Speaker 1: y'all know, you knew it looked like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You You ain't talking nobody to day. You
Speaker 1: don't got no friends, so you know I'm your friend.
Speaker 1: Like That's basically how I went first day of school
Speaker 1: my fifth grade year, and we playing the same team
Speaker 1: from fifth grade for me until my love grade years.
Speaker 1: From six straight years. You know, we went from elementary
Speaker 1: school basketball to middle school basketball, to high school basketball.
Speaker 1: And when we got to high school, we went to
Speaker 1: the Matha, which is the biggest school in the area,
Speaker 1: and the license on the license bright. Me and him
Speaker 1: ain't really play a lot our first year, um, and
Speaker 1: then we kind of just got better, got better our
Speaker 1: second year together. You know, we kind of took the
Speaker 1: league and in the city by storm. In our third year,
Speaker 1: it was it was Curtis for everybody we was running
Speaker 1: through the city. We both made a first team All
Speaker 1: met which is a big deal in our area, and
Speaker 1: we kept pushing each other man and it's it's crazy
Speaker 1: that we both made it to our dreams and we
Speaker 1: still push them. Tell me what your relationship with Katie
Speaker 1: was like, um, in your eyes, how was he growing up?
Speaker 1: Katie is the same way he is today. Both of
Speaker 1: y'all have great relationships with him. Y'all know how cool
Speaker 1: with chill and how down on earth he is. Um
Speaker 1: for me, Uh, he became our big brother. We played
Speaker 1: on the same while. I was on a younger AU team,
Speaker 1: the PG Jaguars, and he was on older, the older team,
Speaker 1: So obviously we linked there from them. Um, his family,
Speaker 1: his mom's dad. I used to always you know, look
Speaker 1: after me like I was one of theirs. And uh,
Speaker 1: he just always had my back. We used to go
Speaker 1: to run the shoot all day and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: he would always make sure I got picked. And you know,
Speaker 1: he was just a big brother. And back then, Katie
Speaker 1: wasn't who he was. He just was a tall, a tall,
Speaker 1: lucky kid who had a lot of talent. And you
Speaker 1: just seen him every day just getting better and better
Speaker 1: and better. And you know, he hasn't changed at all, man,
Speaker 1: And he's always had my back. Off seven years old.
Speaker 1: His mamma treat everybody like that. She's every time she
Speaker 1: seen me, she getting me a hug, like she's like,
Speaker 1: oh baby, how are you doing? You know, man, I
Speaker 1: just remember her screaming on the sidelines. We used to
Speaker 1: play them in the playoffs. But she treats everybody like
Speaker 1: her son. Yeah, yeah, she's the best for sure. All Okill,
Speaker 1: let's talk about that. We both from Okill. We got
Speaker 1: a long line of NBA players, a long a lot
Speaker 1: of people. And you know what's funny though, Bro, Two
Speaker 1: weeks ago, I got a text from a two six
Speaker 1: seven number. I had no idea who it was, right,
Speaker 1: and they called me two three times. They called two
Speaker 1: or three times. Cute and I hung the phone up right,
Speaker 1: I got I read the test mans a couple of
Speaker 1: days ago, because I never really read the test man.
Speaker 1: It was coach Smith Bro, So I got a call
Speaker 1: him back down. I got it, and I haven't talked
Speaker 1: to him in years. But tell me about your experience, Okaill,
Speaker 1: and how that all came about. Man, it was fun,
Speaker 1: you know, growing up and then you started like really
Speaker 1: focusing on you know, who's the best players and what
Speaker 1: college this guy's going to, and you know what guy
Speaker 1: in the NBA is this, And you start really like
Speaker 1: doing research and stuff. A lot of guys you when
Speaker 1: you find out went to Okill. So and I was
Speaker 1: always dreaming my growing up. You know, Mellow was there,
Speaker 1: Katie was there, Rondo guys that when I was young. Um,
Speaker 1: I know I was there and something I always want
Speaker 1: to do because I felt like, you know, you were
Speaker 1: doing something well. If coach Smith recruited you, Coach Smith
Speaker 1: wanted you to be on the team. So Nolan Smith
Speaker 1: was my big brother. He went there and I founded
Speaker 1: a relationship with coach Smith UM, and you know, I
Speaker 1: decided to go there my senior year. I think you
Speaker 1: know what I did in the area of my junior
Speaker 1: you know, it was something incredible. The first junior to
Speaker 1: win All met Player of the Year in thirty years,
Speaker 1: won a championship, and Victor and Jaren Grant Um, those
Speaker 1: guys were graduating. So I wanted a new challenge. So
Speaker 1: I took my UM senior year. I wanted to go
Speaker 1: to o'kill and play for coach Smith and playing the
Speaker 1: national schedule, you know, to get everybody's best shot every
Speaker 1: single day. Were ones then all the time, and I
Speaker 1: want to get ready for college. I wanted to start early,
Speaker 1: living by myself, making sure ship is done without my mom,
Speaker 1: you know, reminded me and stuff like that, so I thought, yeah,
Speaker 1: growing up ship for me and uh I needed that
Speaker 1: bade between DeMatha and UM O kill. How many of
Speaker 1: your teammates went pro to the NBA? Damn well, My
Speaker 1: my sophomore year at DeMatha, we had five out of
Speaker 1: our top six players playing the NBA. UM who were
Speaker 1: so were they? Myself, Victor all the devote Jared Grant,
Speaker 1: Jeremy Grant, Johs Shelby door to the five and we
Speaker 1: had ten or eleven gold d one nothing low like
Speaker 1: nothing like se State, uh Texas A and them we
Speaker 1: had all high majors. O kill. My bad court was
Speaker 1: me and been back for more from the Rockets. Jordan
Speaker 1: Adams who got drafted by the Grizzlies a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago. A J. Hammonds who got drafted by the
Speaker 1: mad Rix, Damian Wilson play at Memphis on Keith Hornsby,
Speaker 1: who's in the gene the couple um years past, couple
Speaker 1: of years and uh, you know, I've had a lot
Speaker 1: of time just with pros, you know, since I was young.
Speaker 1: So it was a dream come true for me just
Speaker 1: to see guys, you know, not just myself making, but
Speaker 1: see my guys who I saw ground and I saw it.
Speaker 1: Bet the Ozzy deal with bullshit make the league. So um,
Speaker 1: I'm definitely proud of those guys for sure. How do
Speaker 1: you compare PG County to other uh, you know hot
Speaker 1: beds around the country. You know New York has don't
Speaker 1: for basketball, Callie does their thing. You know Texas has people.
Speaker 1: Uh how do you compare PG County to style play
Speaker 1: of other hot beds throughout the country. For me, I
Speaker 1: think of what makes it so unique is that you
Speaker 1: know what you think of callim or you can say
Speaker 1: l A. You know, you gotta think of how big
Speaker 1: l A is. New York has all different boroughs. Um,
Speaker 1: what makes us unique is that you know, all of
Speaker 1: us are ten minutes away from each other, literally go
Speaker 1: to the same church, go go to the same Barbara's
Speaker 1: just everything. It's just so close. Um. And I just
Speaker 1: think the style of players that like, I just think
Speaker 1: we we we we kind of have everything, not like
Speaker 1: just like we have the swag, like, man, you can
Speaker 1: tell that dudes from PG or you know, all of
Speaker 1: us can kind of dribble, all of us can shoot
Speaker 1: it a little bit, um and uh, everybody has that toughness.
Speaker 1: So I think we kind of have a lot of
Speaker 1: styles in all of our game. That's crazy to think
Speaker 1: that that's just like basically the same neighborhoods all around
Speaker 1: each other. Really have that much of town, Like you said,
Speaker 1: you don't have to really go across the whole city.
Speaker 1: It was right in that area. Yeah. Yeah, fact, let's
Speaker 1: jump ahead to college. You sign a letter intend to
Speaker 1: Duke um Nationally. You were one of the kids that
Speaker 1: was you know, it was all over TV where you
Speaker 1: were going. You chose over Villanova, u C l A,
Speaker 1: North Carolina. What was it about Duke that made you
Speaker 1: sign there? Yeah? Coach k was the main reason I
Speaker 1: wanted to play for him. You you just grow up,
Speaker 1: watch the TV. You see him on the ESPN every day,
Speaker 1: just growing up. He was coaching the team USA, and
Speaker 1: he had relationships with Kobe and and Braun and and
Speaker 1: Jordan and Katie just everybody that I wanted to be like.
Speaker 1: You know, he coached, So that was my main thing.
Speaker 1: And then it was close enough for my mom. You know,
Speaker 1: she used to take the bus down and she couldn't drive.
Speaker 1: She'll take the bus down. Easy to make a bus,
Speaker 1: ten dollar bus. He'll drive down five hours before the game,
Speaker 1: get there for game time, give me a hug, and
Speaker 1: get right back on the bus, which was like U
Speaker 1: c l A was like far she couldn't really see
Speaker 1: me played, Um feeling over had like a lot of guards.
Speaker 1: Um and uh, I just don't it made sense, man.
Speaker 1: And like I said earlier, my big brother, KNOWA Smith,
Speaker 1: went there, so you know, it was definitely an easy
Speaker 1: decision for me because you know, they struggled at first
Speaker 1: and then became a CNC Player of the Year, National
Speaker 1: Player the Year and got drafted. So I wanted to
Speaker 1: do just what he did for sure. Speaking of coach
Speaker 1: k obviously, uh arguably one of the greatest coaches ever,
Speaker 1: not arguably one of the greatest coaches ever. What was
Speaker 1: the best piece of advice he gave you that still
Speaker 1: sticks with you today. I think the biggest thing that
Speaker 1: he taught us when I was there and myself is next,
Speaker 1: play next, play in life, next playing basketball. Obviously, in basketball,
Speaker 1: if you make it three, you can't fucking celebrate, and
Speaker 1: you know chance, you gotta get back on defense. You
Speaker 1: turn the ball over, you can't hold your head and
Speaker 1: keep that thing, keep that turnover in your head. But
Speaker 1: for me, in life, it's like ship, you don't make
Speaker 1: the NBA, you get cut from a team. Man, next opportunity, next, uh,
Speaker 1: next phase in your life. If you don't get that job,
Speaker 1: if you feel that test, you can't dwell on your fay.
Speaker 1: You gotta let the fingers keep pushing you to be great,
Speaker 1: and and and and the flip side is, you know,
Speaker 1: if you get to the league, you can't you know,
Speaker 1: just spending money and think you've made it because because
Speaker 1: for me, like it was so hard getting the league,
Speaker 1: it's even harder staying in the league. And obviously you
Speaker 1: guys know that. So um next playing life is just
Speaker 1: keeping that mindset. Man, we gotta keep going, gotta keep moving,
Speaker 1: gonna keep working. What was the college experience, not not
Speaker 1: the basketball side, but what was being a college student
Speaker 1: like that? Do? I mean everybody tells you it was
Speaker 1: a little different. For me. It wasn't your traditional like
Speaker 1: I like, I wasn't your traditional guy who went to
Speaker 1: do I was a little different. Uh. And growing up, man,
Speaker 1: I grew up besides going to the Mantel, which was
Speaker 1: a cadelic school and okaill like, I never really had
Speaker 1: experience like you know, with with other races because Prince
Speaker 1: George's county is predominantly black. So when I got to
Speaker 1: do it was just like a whole new world. So
Speaker 1: I was lucky. You know. We had n C and
Speaker 1: T down the street. We had no killing a central
Speaker 1: downa street we had. I was at you, you boably
Speaker 1: thought I went to central. I just I was always
Speaker 1: that central, messing around pre dance. Just you know that.
Speaker 1: That gave me that Back home, you have to be
Speaker 1: creative at kill all day, no, you know, now for show.
Speaker 1: But we had the team team, you know, we we
Speaker 1: we lived in that house, so we was in the
Speaker 1: house all day messing with the team. So I gave
Speaker 1: me that. That aln't feel as well. But when I
Speaker 1: got to college, man, it was, it was. It was
Speaker 1: a lot. It was a lot of changes I need
Speaker 1: to make for sure. You got a chance to play with.
Speaker 1: Uh Yeah, Duke Ogleford, Tyres Jones, Justice Wooden, low Seth Curry,
Speaker 1: Jabari Parker, Austin Rivers. You guys had a squad, a
Speaker 1: Duke we did. We did. We did a real squad.
Speaker 1: How long did it take for you guys to jail
Speaker 1: and come together? Obviously, Coach k is a huge influence
Speaker 1: on that. But like you said, everyone is coming from
Speaker 1: different backgrounds and has different accolades. And how long did
Speaker 1: if you feel that it took your guys team to
Speaker 1: really start hitting their stride. I think each year was different.
Speaker 1: My first year with myself Austin as freshman, we had
Speaker 1: Seth Curry, we had all three Plumber brothers. That team
Speaker 1: took took a while because our team was kind of
Speaker 1: all over the place. We always had like a new
Speaker 1: starting lineup every single year. We were very talented, but
Speaker 1: we never really found our identity and we ended up
Speaker 1: losing in the first round. To see that mccolor obviously
Speaker 1: the famous game and he put us out. He went crazy.
Speaker 1: Our next year was my soft here was probably one
Speaker 1: of our most talented teams. Um we end up losing
Speaker 1: their lead eight to illuisbu Um. But my senior year
Speaker 1: was the best year for me um just I think
Speaker 1: that was the peerst year. I think everybody was on
Speaker 1: the same page. Nobody cared about draft status, nobody cared
Speaker 1: about how many points they scored. We genuinely just wanted
Speaker 1: to win every single game, and myself, being a senior
Speaker 1: on that team, it was my last chance to do
Speaker 1: something you know that I'll be remembered for that. Dude.
Speaker 1: I had a decent first three years, but that last year,
Speaker 1: you know, I think, you know, kind of gave me
Speaker 1: a stamp. As you know, I did something in college, man,
Speaker 1: because those first three years, you know, we lost two
Speaker 1: times early, we lost in the leade eight and that, dude, Man,
Speaker 1: you can remember for winning obviously, you know, you always
Speaker 1: want to go to the league and be a lottery
Speaker 1: pick and ship like that. But I wanted to win
Speaker 1: the championship while I was there, and you know, we
Speaker 1: finally got it done my senior year, which was, you know,
Speaker 1: incredible feeling. You took kind of a similar path to me.
Speaker 1: Although I was drafted in the second round, you weren't drafted.
Speaker 1: You had to take the other route, you know, Jack
Speaker 1: had to take a different route. Talk to us with that.
Speaker 1: That because of the ship. I want to say, when
Speaker 1: I was in the D League or G League or
Speaker 1: whatever the hell it's called, I think it was the
Speaker 1: D League back then, it was like the second year.
Speaker 1: So that was the worst ship ever, Like, no bullshit.
Speaker 1: It was long bus rides, little cropduster LaBamba planes, Like
Speaker 1: I'm like fucking I'd rather just a car drive bro,
Speaker 1: no bullshit like the planes where it was just fucked up,
Speaker 1: and it made me think like, but my grind was like, man,
Speaker 1: funk this like I'm not meant like, this is not
Speaker 1: what this is not my path, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: so I had to really grind and that was my
Speaker 1: hunger behind me getting up out of that D League
Speaker 1: man or G league? Was it said? It was that
Speaker 1: a similar situation you like you said you had seen
Speaker 1: so much great talent from high school to college to
Speaker 1: win a national championship, to go undrafted and be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: like you said earlier, what's the next grind? Talk to
Speaker 1: us about that? Man, great question. Yeah, I got it.
Speaker 1: I got in to the D League, I think it was.
Speaker 1: I played two years in the D League where it
Speaker 1: was called the D League. Um and and and a
Speaker 1: lot of guys that I know who played in the
Speaker 1: D League they say that it was way worse when
Speaker 1: they were in it, So I imagine when you played
Speaker 1: in it. But for me now, I was tough man
Speaker 1: because ship growing up, you know, I was always the guy.
Speaker 1: I was always the guy, and uh um, it was
Speaker 1: tough going to going to too powerhouse high school is
Speaker 1: going to do. You know, everybody's your bro. You play,
Speaker 1: you play a great game. You got thirty text messages,
Speaker 1: Timis calls. You know, everybody wants to put up on
Speaker 1: you and and and being part of the journeyman, and
Speaker 1: you know after being All American my senior year and
Speaker 1: winning the chip not getting drafted, you gotta go take
Speaker 1: a six hour bus route before Wayne, Indiana and then
Speaker 1: Grand Rapids, Michigan. Um, you playing on Facebook Live instead
Speaker 1: of Primetown ESPN, and after the game you only get
Speaker 1: to text messages and really want because you know Mom's
Speaker 1: gonna text you. It was automatic. But other than that,
Speaker 1: dudes ain't because I played Can't Ohio, So dudes wasn't
Speaker 1: pulling up on me and can and you know, posting
Speaker 1: my highlights and stuff like I was at dude, So
Speaker 1: it was I needed it. Man. That was real eye
Speaker 1: opening for me. That's this ship that made me like it.
Speaker 1: When I finally got my chance to the league, it
Speaker 1: was like me or youth. So I'm we're gonna fight
Speaker 1: do whatever because I'm not going back to that ship,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I'd rather go play football, funk that.
Speaker 1: So now it's obviously better you're seeing kids. What are
Speaker 1: your thoughts about kids now jumping from high school to
Speaker 1: the G League because obviously it's a lot different now
Speaker 1: they're getting bread and and it's a little different than
Speaker 1: obviously the league continues to grow. Now it's an amazing
Speaker 1: minor league system. But I'm talking about back in the day,
Speaker 1: early two thousands. But what are your thoughts on kids
Speaker 1: making that jump? I like you. I like it because
Speaker 1: I think it's time for GEN League to start getting
Speaker 1: the recognition that they deserve. I think, you know, people
Speaker 1: can get lost down there. I mean, you know you're
Speaker 1: gonna as to what I mean. When I was in it,
Speaker 1: you know, there was you know, uh, first round picks.
Speaker 1: It was lottery picks, guys that I grew up watching,
Speaker 1: you know, in college and the league down they're still
Speaker 1: trying to trying to make it work. But guys get
Speaker 1: lost down there. Man. Guys blame ship, They blamed the agent,
Speaker 1: they blame their their their their previous coach, they blamed
Speaker 1: this and that. Um, I mean, can it can wear them?
Speaker 1: But for me, I was I knew I was down there.
Speaker 1: This is a pit style. I had to work with myself,
Speaker 1: work on my game. I wasn't really trying to do
Speaker 1: all that wanting ship because I knew we Ally was
Speaker 1: down there for a reason. Man. The politics, the politics
Speaker 1: and and all that ship. Yeah, that's life. But I
Speaker 1: wasn't trying to blame nobody. Man, I'm down it for
Speaker 1: a reason. I told myself, Man, I got to be
Speaker 1: the best player while I'm down here in practice. And
Speaker 1: you're telling Damon Jones, my coach my first year, and
Speaker 1: like literally like we'll work out before I practice. You know,
Speaker 1: we'll go as as hard as we can't do in practice,
Speaker 1: we'll work out after, man. And I was really just
Speaker 1: getting ready for that ten day where you go from
Speaker 1: the from the D League, you after thirty. I was
Speaker 1: aging like seven eight like something crazy, like like some
Speaker 1: crazy numbers. But I was preparing myself forward when I
Speaker 1: got called up on that ten day for those twelve minutes.
Speaker 1: I might get for those last four minutes because you
Speaker 1: rarely you ain't getting called up to score thirty. You
Speaker 1: gotta you get called up to be the eleventh and
Speaker 1: twelve man. So once once people start realizing that, man,
Speaker 1: I think, um, it's great. But the definitely it's getting loved.
Speaker 1: Now they're getting bread and you know how school kids
Speaker 1: Damon Green is gonna make it even better. And you
Speaker 1: know the guys, it's hungry down there. So no, I
Speaker 1: think it's great what they're doing. For sure. Talk to
Speaker 1: me a little bit about I think you touched on
Speaker 1: which was great. Like we all killed in high school,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, killed like thirty average thirty,
Speaker 1: did whatever, all these accolades. But when you hit the NBA,
Speaker 1: it's a different mindset. You have to it's so important
Speaker 1: to know your role as you I killed in the
Speaker 1: in the in the D League too, but I knew
Speaker 1: when I got that ten day call up, I knew
Speaker 1: instantly what the funk I had to do. I knew
Speaker 1: I had to play defense. I knew I had to
Speaker 1: be a dog, so that normal role you may take
Speaker 1: in a lesser situation. I think what allowed me to
Speaker 1: last so long was I knew what the funk my
Speaker 1: role was, and you obviously seem like it. Really it
Speaker 1: made me smile when you said, like I went from
Speaker 1: killing to like knowing what the funk I gotta do
Speaker 1: in my twelve minutes, because it's a completely different mindset.
Speaker 1: You still have to be you, but as a player
Speaker 1: that's you know, coming in you really have to try
Speaker 1: to look around the team and see what's needed and
Speaker 1: plug those holes. Yeah for sure. I mean you guys,
Speaker 1: you guys know, you guys know play long cafreer and
Speaker 1: you know one TIMPs just been on great teams. I
Speaker 1: think it's a skilled would be a great teammate. And
Speaker 1: like you said, we all are here, are here for
Speaker 1: a reason. O G is Jared Jack. That's like who
Speaker 1: I want to be. Like, like, he's a guy. You
Speaker 1: know it wasn't an All star, was a great player,
Speaker 1: solid player, but he commanded the respect from you know,
Speaker 1: his teammates, referees, coaches, um, front office management, all that stuff.
Speaker 1: And you know he's not the most athletic guy, he's
Speaker 1: not the most talented guy, but he always find will
Speaker 1: find himself on the team. He was always you know,
Speaker 1: get deal, I could deal, I could deal. Jerk. There
Speaker 1: is another guy like that. And I had two bets.
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys know will Andre and Sean and
Speaker 1: I used to appreciate me every single day, you know,
Speaker 1: being stall on your role, be sta on your road,
Speaker 1: do this and that. And these guys, these these guys
Speaker 1: is a decade in the league and All Star appearances
Speaker 1: and uh championships, and they would appreciate me every single
Speaker 1: day about how important it is to be a road
Speaker 1: especially on the team. We had to go to state,
Speaker 1: so I got that to legim in the league, so
Speaker 1: I had an advantage over a lot of young guys
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, I think it's important. Man, if people
Speaker 1: don't understand, like obviously everyone could, I think when you
Speaker 1: really see dope, basketball is summertime basketball to pick up games,
Speaker 1: because then you could really show, you know, what you
Speaker 1: could do, you know what I mean. I would always
Speaker 1: surprise people on what I can do in the summertime.
Speaker 1: But I knew during the season, like we all, everyone
Speaker 1: wants to be able to score thirty points, but that's
Speaker 1: not your motherfucking role. Like your role is to do
Speaker 1: you know. Obviously Jack was a good score, but I'm
Speaker 1: speaking for myself, and you know you were a big
Speaker 1: time score. I wasn't I could score, but I wasn't
Speaker 1: like that was my thing. But I knew that I
Speaker 1: had to find other positions. Could I score more? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Could I did? I want to take more shots? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But I knew what the fun my role was and
Speaker 1: that's why I played until I didn't want to play
Speaker 1: no more. You're right. I mean that's the that's the
Speaker 1: catch twenty two. Because a lot of people see us
Speaker 1: on TV. We might like it the minutes we want
Speaker 1: you see. It's being a great teammate. People called me
Speaker 1: a cheerleader all the time. I've been on great teams
Speaker 1: and I'm sitting behind Hall of famers and I'm sitting
Speaker 1: behind great players. But don't get this ship funked up.
Speaker 1: Like I'm doing this ship my whole life. And guys
Speaker 1: in the summer, you know, they think that you could
Speaker 1: you know, they could funk with you, and they think
Speaker 1: that you know, you're not as good as you think.
Speaker 1: The politics only work. He went to demand he wanted
Speaker 1: to do. That's the only reason why you leave ship
Speaker 1: like that. I mean, that's ship cool. I gotta go
Speaker 1: through that all the time, and it's fun. Man, I
Speaker 1: love it. Who I'm challenge. I'm going from Jim and
Speaker 1: Jim and in DC man, I'm trying to I'm trying
Speaker 1: to see who whatever. I like your driving your passion, man,
Speaker 1: and your focus because like I went through that same ship,
Speaker 1: like you, you knew you was a pro. You didn't
Speaker 1: take an overseas job. You knew you was ANRO. You
Speaker 1: had a couple of ten days. Then you end up
Speaker 1: with the Warriors. How did that happen? How did you
Speaker 1: end up with the Warriors? Man? It's crazy. So you know,
Speaker 1: I was going to my third year in the league,
Speaker 1: and I, uh, I ended my last year the last
Speaker 1: year I ended in New Orleans. Man, And you know,
Speaker 1: I like the last maybe fifteen games, but I played well. Man,
Speaker 1: And after the Seas was over there, Dace is like,
Speaker 1: you know, y'all go home. I'm like, Man, I'm staying, Like,
Speaker 1: I gotta no guarantee. I got two trigger days now,
Speaker 1: I gotta get right for summer league. So I stayed
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. I'm working out every single day. I
Speaker 1: killed something league, Like, I destroyed some league. Then in
Speaker 1: New Orleans signs Rondo Darre's Miller and they got a
Speaker 1: cut me. So I'm still so uh. You know, I
Speaker 1: end up getting a partial guaranteed with Atlanta. Man, So
Speaker 1: I moved down to Atlanta. You know, I'm staying in
Speaker 1: the hotel. I'm killing and pick up. I'm killing all
Speaker 1: the workouts and stuff. Preseason comes, you know, they're like, man,
Speaker 1: start to start looking for your your your your carib
Speaker 1: I'm like, hell, no, man, I haven't been cut too
Speaker 1: many times. Like I'm gonna keep saying this. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: keep saying this hotel and you know, I thought I
Speaker 1: was good. Called my age. I'm like, man, they tell
Speaker 1: me I'm good. Like am I good? My agent is
Speaker 1: like yeah, straight, they love you, blah blah blah. So
Speaker 1: preseason comes, I don't play at all, Like I played
Speaker 1: one game against Miami other than I ain't playing at all.
Speaker 1: Last day before my my contract is guaranteed for the year.
Speaker 1: Trade goes down. The trade goes down, I get cut
Speaker 1: and that's that's the night. Like I'll never forget. I
Speaker 1: called my mom, I called KD and I called Nolan Smith.
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, like this, I think I gotta take
Speaker 1: a year off. I don't know. I don't think emotionally
Speaker 1: I can take this anymore man. And I remember Nolan
Speaker 1: was like, man, just sleep on it, like your emotional
Speaker 1: right now, sleep on it and call me in the morning.
Speaker 1: And I wroke up man By After getting cut by
Speaker 1: the Hawks on Friday night, Saturday morning, Steve Kurent called
Speaker 1: me like three or four times. And uh, you know,
Speaker 1: literally like no disrespects to Atlanta, but that year they
Speaker 1: were the worst HIM in league. So I went from
Speaker 1: you know, getting cut to the worst HIM in league
Speaker 1: to literally the next day, you know, the best seaming
Speaker 1: league wanted me on their team. So it was it
Speaker 1: was a true drink coming true for me. Blessing for sure.
Speaker 1: So to be able to go you get there, Uh
Speaker 1: you know, you're going to the G League, back to
Speaker 1: the to the to the big boys, back and forth.
Speaker 1: Walk us through that process because you're finally here, but
Speaker 1: you're going back and forth. You said, I know you
Speaker 1: had a great attitude because everyone speaks so well of you,
Speaker 1: but what was your mindset to be, Like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: killing in this G League and I'm gonna be ready
Speaker 1: for whatever the words got for me. Walk us through
Speaker 1: that process. I went down there with a new motivation,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know Steve and and and Bobe Myers,
Speaker 1: you know, they were just like, we're gonna treat you
Speaker 1: know this two way. I was that was the first
Speaker 1: year of the two way too, and nobody really knew
Speaker 1: how it will work. And uh, Bob, Steve, like they
Speaker 1: just told me, you know, we're gonna treat you as
Speaker 1: as our third e G. So you know we're older,
Speaker 1: Shawn the rest a lot, Andre might rest um you
Speaker 1: know we we we, I just had I saw some opportunity.
Speaker 1: So when I was in the G League, man like
Speaker 1: I was killing, like I want to show bro, I
Speaker 1: was not below down here like y'all need me up
Speaker 1: there like straight up and uh but but but we
Speaker 1: made that so crazy was Stephite went down. So when
Speaker 1: when Steph goes down, you know, I getting started to
Speaker 1: the starting line up just so Sean can keep so
Speaker 1: Seawan can keep, you know, taking that second rotation, that
Speaker 1: second unit. Right. So I go from like three three
Speaker 1: or four games I was on the roster with the
Speaker 1: Golden State, like I didn't play at all. I probably
Speaker 1: got in two games out of out of the four
Speaker 1: like ten seconds and maybe two minutes. And I went
Speaker 1: from that to starting. But I was in the G
Speaker 1: League going so crazy and working so hard. I was
Speaker 1: just such in a rhythm, like I was just a rhythm.
Speaker 1: So it was just it was just easy for me
Speaker 1: to just go out there. And because you're playing, you
Speaker 1: still playing with kvee, Clay and Draymond. So the ship
Speaker 1: Ain't that hard you go out there? Yeah? So yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I was in rhythm and it was fun. And then
Speaker 1: obviously later Steph got hurt for a longer period of time,
Speaker 1: and you know, guys was hurt. Clay was out. I
Speaker 1: think Clay like broke broke his hand or something. Katie
Speaker 1: had fractured ribs, and literally like I had to play
Speaker 1: forty minutes and that's when I scared. Starts going thirty
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm saying I started killing, and you know,
Speaker 1: social media kind of took it on the thing about
Speaker 1: Storm and guys got backing up to the rotation. So
Speaker 1: it was a great year for me for sure. What
Speaker 1: did you learn most about playing with them? Dudes? Those
Speaker 1: are arguably four Hall of famers you were able to
Speaker 1: win the championship? What did you learn, uh most being
Speaker 1: with the Warriors? For me, I love their demeanor, I
Speaker 1: love their swagger. I love there they just have that
Speaker 1: in factor, like they know that they you know, all
Speaker 1: the baddest dudes on the plane, and they know that
Speaker 1: when we go on each rod, everybody's gonna be against us.
Speaker 1: The these guys gonna take their best shot at us,
Speaker 1: and and they won't. They will never beat us. They
Speaker 1: will never They always felt like they would win every
Speaker 1: every single game, how hard they worked. Obviously, it is
Speaker 1: something you know that that that caught my mind. And
Speaker 1: the attention to detail. Um, like man, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: our fail sessions and practices were pretty light before the
Speaker 1: playoffs playoffs come. You know, Steve we we in that
Speaker 1: talk room for about hour hour and a half going
Speaker 1: a different game, players and stuff like that. Just the
Speaker 1: tension to detail. Everybody had, uh values to the team,
Speaker 1: had a certain input they implemented, and you know, just
Speaker 1: for me be the young player man growing up watching
Speaker 1: these guys, man, it was a dream come true. Was
Speaker 1: honor just to be in our organization. That was kind
Speaker 1: of my next question. So you get a chance to
Speaker 1: win with someone there was like your big brother growing
Speaker 1: up in your neighborhood, looked out for you, and then
Speaker 1: you're standing on a podium at the pinnacle of basketball.
Speaker 1: What was that? What was that feeling? Like I that
Speaker 1: that ship is crazy because like we used to literally
Speaker 1: always talk about that, like, man, we're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 1: win championships, like not not thinking we're gonna do it together,
Speaker 1: but man, I wnna win one you're gonna win one
Speaker 1: like sh and for us to do it together, man,
Speaker 1: and for it to be a second one. I remember
Speaker 1: you guys beat up Cleveland and five years before that, man,
Speaker 1: I was in New Orleans and I called Katie like
Speaker 1: he was in the locker room just so hype. And
Speaker 1: you know, my mom was My mom was with me.
Speaker 1: She was crying. And it was when he when he
Speaker 1: wanted chip and felt like I want to chip. It
Speaker 1: felt like the whole the whole neighborhood and the whole
Speaker 1: city want to chip. And then from the next year
Speaker 1: for me to be right there with him and bro
Speaker 1: like oh, the whole team, like like they showed me
Speaker 1: more love than anybody. I don't know what it was like.
Speaker 1: Everybody was coming to grand new ship because they knew,
Speaker 1: they knew the past, they knew, you know how how
Speaker 1: hard it is to me to get there. Man. It was,
Speaker 1: it was, it was, it was, It was. It was great. Man.
Speaker 1: I appreciate those guys for that for sure. Yeah, all
Speaker 1: of us are here obviously brothers with Cobe, you were
Speaker 1: a huge fan. You got to sweatshirt on today. Talk
Speaker 1: to us about what the connection was. I know through
Speaker 1: Coach k he was some when you mentioned and he
Speaker 1: knew and you know, Coach k always made sure you
Speaker 1: guys run in contact, you know, through college and you
Speaker 1: got a chance to to get get a good chance
Speaker 1: to to know code. Well, what was it like and
Speaker 1: how are you dealing with it? Post? Yeah? I mean
Speaker 1: growing up, you know, I'm too young, Like I saw
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, but I I don't really I didn't really
Speaker 1: get to live and breathe and live in on a
Speaker 1: day to day basis and see him on the night
Speaker 1: tonight and really appreciate what he did. Um Space James
Speaker 1: my favorite movie, all that ship growing up. So I
Speaker 1: love Michael Jordan's but he retired at ninet yate and
Speaker 1: then she ninety nine, you know, two thousands. That's when
Speaker 1: the Lakers kind of, you know, step into her own.
Speaker 1: And my dad used to always be like man Kobe,
Speaker 1: like he's Geordan, like he's the next Jordan, like he
Speaker 1: does every day resembles no Michael Jordan to a t.
Speaker 1: So when when when I when I realized there was
Speaker 1: a new Jordan playing That was my guy, That was
Speaker 1: my guy. And and you know, my dad was like
Speaker 1: the biggest Lakers fan ever. So you know he was
Speaker 1: an easy eye on the half of me. And then
Speaker 1: you know, I got to see two thousand and two
Speaker 1: dollars once two day win a championship, So obviously, like everything,
Speaker 1: everything is perfect for me as a basketball guy. And
Speaker 1: then you grow up, you see you know how hard
Speaker 1: he works. You see you know how hard he uh
Speaker 1: you know uh trains his mind and and just you
Speaker 1: start to listen to his interviews and you just see
Speaker 1: the respect that everybody has, you know for him. You
Speaker 1: just start appreciating the war and that was my guy.
Speaker 1: But I wanted to be just like him. I want
Speaker 1: to do everything like him. And the growing up um
Speaker 1: coming into my home. I got to meet him for
Speaker 1: the first time, and Coach K new him, and Coach
Speaker 1: K will always make sure, like if he came to
Speaker 1: a game, I would get the first five minutes with him,
Speaker 1: and if he sent the text after a game, Coach
Speaker 1: K always bring me back on the plane and showed
Speaker 1: me the text that Kobe sin and he knew how
Speaker 1: much you know, I loved him, and uh, I got
Speaker 1: to meet him, got the form relationship with him, and
Speaker 1: you guys on he was he was so so cool man.
Speaker 1: He's past a couple of years him after basketball. He
Speaker 1: was just so fun. He's always smiling office with his family. Man,
Speaker 1: and just tragic, tragic, tragic thing. And I think we're
Speaker 1: still you know, all trying to you know, make it
Speaker 1: makes sense. It never makes sense, but we got to
Speaker 1: just keep us keeps going. Never you did something to
Speaker 1: touch me because I was out there work at ESPN,
Speaker 1: so I saw it with the memorial was like across
Speaker 1: the street from Stable Center. You guys, flew back in town.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't grab your jersey and you wouldn't join the
Speaker 1: crowd out there. Talk to us about that. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think we all, I think we always just in't shocked.
Speaker 1: I mean we all obviously us learned on the plane
Speaker 1: we drive. We flying from Philly, um and we all
Speaker 1: found it about it on a plane, man, I mean
Speaker 1: I was the longest ride ever. Guys was sucked up, man,
Speaker 1: and uh we landed. Uh My friend Jack Davis, who
Speaker 1: with the Duke where he lives in l A. You know,
Speaker 1: he's one of the biggest Kobe fans ever too. You know,
Speaker 1: he he linked up with me at uh at our
Speaker 1: prox facility. Man just just kind of like consoled me
Speaker 1: because I was crushed, and he showed me that they
Speaker 1: were doing the memorial. They had fans at you know,
Speaker 1: the Staples Center, and growing up, when I thought of
Speaker 1: the Staple Cent, I thought of Kobe because that's the
Speaker 1: building I grew up watching him playing, and he he
Speaker 1: gave the Lakers, you know, twenty years of just you know,
Speaker 1: just straight, just straight man, pure basketball, just greatness. Man.
Speaker 1: And I just wanted to be out there just to
Speaker 1: just to be with the fans and and and and
Speaker 1: show my respects to his family and himself. And um,
Speaker 1: the fans were cool. They let me be. They weren't,
Speaker 1: you know, over buried because everybody was grieving man. And
Speaker 1: I thought it was something I needed needed to do, Manuh,
Speaker 1: it was. It was something I'll never forget. It's saddening
Speaker 1: even to talk about, you know what I mean. In
Speaker 1: this wor which we have to talk. We always try
Speaker 1: to talk about him in a good lighting and and remembering,
Speaker 1: but it's still just some days that just hit you
Speaker 1: in the face, like Kobe's gone, like the ship don't
Speaker 1: like if Kobe is not supposed to be gone, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, like if anyone was not supposed to be
Speaker 1: gone as him so it's it's still just punches you
Speaker 1: unit the stomach every once a while, like God, damn,
Speaker 1: this ship is real for real, crazy, right right? Sure
Speaker 1: you said that the best advice you got was from Kobe.
Speaker 1: If you if you don't mind, would you like shanders
Speaker 1: and tell us what he told you? Yeah? All you
Speaker 1: are you all you can keep it because I know
Speaker 1: because I know some things that he told us when
Speaker 1: we did our last interview with him that I hold
Speaker 1: type that I haven't shared. But it's up to you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean not for sure. Man. I think my last
Speaker 1: my last moment with him is my favorite, not knowing
Speaker 1: that it was my last, but at that time, like
Speaker 1: that that that was my favorite moment. In Game five
Speaker 1: of the of the Western Commence Finals, it was too
Speaker 1: too it was us versus Rockets. Obviously, Um and uh,
Speaker 1: I had been out with the rotation in first four
Speaker 1: games and Steve put me back in the rotation and
Speaker 1: just a little adjustment. Um, get some more shooting out there,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know it's I think we're dan one
Speaker 1: about minute left, fifty seconds left. I'm guarding Chris Paul.
Speaker 1: I get a stop from Chris Paul. Draymond gets the rebound,
Speaker 1: he brings it down. He he finds me on the break,
Speaker 1: like I had several points at the time. I was
Speaker 1: like over too and I'm wild open man, and I
Speaker 1: bowed the ball and I shoot it miss. They come down.
Speaker 1: We end up losing the game, and you know how
Speaker 1: it is now social media is killing me. Uh We're
Speaker 1: down three two, and that's my first year Awards. I'm like,
Speaker 1: day my first year. We're about to go down, and
Speaker 1: I just remember, you know, after the game, you know,
Speaker 1: Steph and Katie, like they called me that I was talking.
Speaker 1: I went to Katie's room. He was up all night
Speaker 1: just talking talking to Justin, talking about the game, what
Speaker 1: we need to do. And I was just feeling just
Speaker 1: so damn man. And I told myself, Man, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be my Kobe moment, like I remember him every gone
Speaker 1: three shots gives you talk, you know, in this first
Speaker 1: big playoff experience, And I said, I kept telling myself,
Speaker 1: kept telling myself, kept telling myself. Fast forward a year later,
Speaker 1: we're in the finals. You know, I hit it. I
Speaker 1: get the same shot at the same spot, you know,
Speaker 1: gets the raptors and if those and I hit him
Speaker 1: and from literally three three three threes in a row,
Speaker 1: you know the win game too, And uh, you know,
Speaker 1: in my head, I'm like, damn, like that's that's my moment.
Speaker 1: Like I remember I missed last year, but I had to.
Speaker 1: I had enough nuts to take the next shot and
Speaker 1: I had enough nuts to to to believe it myself,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I made the shot. And then
Speaker 1: I said cold this summer and he's like, man, I
Speaker 1: didn't tell like I hadn't told him, like that was
Speaker 1: my mama bone. But like he he's what came to
Speaker 1: my mom when I missed the shots. And when I
Speaker 1: made the shots, he just came up to me. He
Speaker 1: was like, man, that was your moment. You got big
Speaker 1: coronas like you missed it here before that. Y'all know,
Speaker 1: y'all know him, you missed here before that. And the
Speaker 1: next year he took the shame shot and you guys,
Speaker 1: you want the bombs game and and he said he
Speaker 1: was proud of me, man, And you know that meant
Speaker 1: the world to me. I called my mom Rath the
Speaker 1: man cold just he you know what I'm saying, just
Speaker 1: just me being a fans, also being a friend. Man.
Speaker 1: That meant the world to me. And I hold that
Speaker 1: dear to my heart for short. That's amazing. I love
Speaker 1: hearing that you similar to me. Grew up a Lakers fan.
Speaker 1: My ship was crazy too, from almost fighting Kobe to
Speaker 1: have him called me to come and play with him.
Speaker 1: What was it like finally putting on that Laker jersey?
Speaker 1: Tell me with that because that she gives me chills
Speaker 1: even talking about it. What was it like when you go,
Speaker 1: you got to put that jersey on for the first
Speaker 1: sign It was so man, it was a drink on
Speaker 1: true when I signed. When I signed with the Lakers,
Speaker 1: that was like my draft day. When I got off
Speaker 1: the phone with Rob because I didn't get drafted obviously,
Speaker 1: so um, that was my draft that you you you
Speaker 1: you get off the phone with uh, you know you're
Speaker 1: the GM. He tells you that we're signing you to
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. You know you're officially a Los Angeles
Speaker 1: Laker boom. That was my draft day. I called my mom,
Speaker 1: called my sister. My sister was driving. I made her
Speaker 1: pull over, you know, my girls with me, and we
Speaker 1: celebrated like I just got drafted man, and get into
Speaker 1: l a putting on that jersey for the first time.
Speaker 1: I started thinking about my dad because you know, me
Speaker 1: and him were the biggest Laker fans and and PG.
Speaker 1: You know, everything was Lakers, you know, uh anybody who
Speaker 1: knew it. And we always had Lakers gear on every
Speaker 1: single day. So you know, I was playing for him
Speaker 1: this year. Man, I was. This was just big his big,
Speaker 1: big dream to see his son obviously in the NBA,
Speaker 1: but to to to to play for my Dada's favorite team. Man,
Speaker 1: it was different. Man was drink. I'm true, man surreal.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you ever sit back because you're
Speaker 1: in the process, but you will one day when you
Speaker 1: get old, like me and Jack. But you've been although
Speaker 1: the journey has been rough, you've been in two amazing
Speaker 1: situations to really start your career off, getting a chance
Speaker 1: to play with a dynasty in Golden State and picking
Speaker 1: the brains of k D Staff Draymond Clay coach Kerr.
Speaker 1: Now you're in l A with a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: other veterans. You you had a tweet that said, man,
Speaker 1: I get to learn from j Kid and rondo'brin every day.
Speaker 1: You know, to point guards dream. You've been in very
Speaker 1: fortunate situations, not only to you know, be on the
Speaker 1: biggest stage playing basketball, but just to soak the game
Speaker 1: up from some of the greats. What has that been
Speaker 1: like for you. I think that's been the best and
Speaker 1: coolest part for me, being being obsessed with the game
Speaker 1: and me being a fan of the game, and me
Speaker 1: you wanted to get better and learn more. There's no
Speaker 1: better you know, opportunities that I could have had. And
Speaker 1: I always, you know, just feel blessed and lucky because
Speaker 1: the basketball guys are always rewarding. You know, I had
Speaker 1: to go through through through hell. I had to go
Speaker 1: through this and that to get to where I am. Man,
Speaker 1: It's no other way I can fathom it. And now
Speaker 1: I just always like to appreciate the ship that I'm in, man,
Speaker 1: and um like like and like you say, like, I know,
Speaker 1: when I was in high school, when I was at dude,
Speaker 1: I was always thinking about what's next. And now you
Speaker 1: alway kind of get stuck in the moment. But I
Speaker 1: kind of take time. I always kind of take time
Speaker 1: to just reflect and just remember how thankful I am, man,
Speaker 1: because I know it sounds clear shape, but going going
Speaker 1: from you know, where I came from, I wasn't supposed
Speaker 1: to be there So for me to play for the
Speaker 1: fucking Warriors to win a championship and then coming to
Speaker 1: the Lakers, l A's backrocking, and you know, I get
Speaker 1: to learn from Bron Rondo, Avery, Bradley, fucking Dwight Howard's
Speaker 1: on the team. Just uh, you know, me and A
Speaker 1: d grew up playing against each other, and you and
Speaker 1: teammates and USA me dawns of Americans together. He's my
Speaker 1: class casey be like the Marcus is here. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's just the best mixture of basketball all in
Speaker 1: one locker room. Man. And I always take take time
Speaker 1: and just realize how lucky I am. And I don't
Speaker 1: take another for Brandon. So I try to learn and
Speaker 1: I try to work as much as possible. Yeah, Bron
Speaker 1: is in your seventeam Bro, And you know we talked about,
Speaker 1: like I said this on my on my page is
Speaker 1: one goat, one mom, but one king and they only
Speaker 1: once on my rushmore. He's in your seventeen learning from
Speaker 1: him and see what he's doing in year seventeen, Man,
Speaker 1: talk to explain that to me. What you're seeing like
Speaker 1: this is greatness, It's amazing, it's it's it's it's really ridiculous,
Speaker 1: like have to play with him while I want to
Speaker 1: training camp with with them in Cleveland. He was my event.
Speaker 1: I was just rooking. So, uh, you know, I'll never forget.
Speaker 1: Um I was. I was living with Kyrie at the time.
Speaker 1: I was Kyrie and wanted me really staying at the hotel.
Speaker 1: He kind of want to be the head at home Field.
Speaker 1: I was staying the Kyrie. I had a car, he
Speaker 1: gave me his whip, everything. So I'm the first day
Speaker 1: of training camp. Man, they were just fresh off the finals. Um,
Speaker 1: I drove. I drove to the pounds facility. You know,
Speaker 1: I wanted to be the first one in there. And
Speaker 1: I get there, I changed, uh, go to the breakfast
Speaker 1: Lanunge or wherever, and I'm starting to heat breakfast and
Speaker 1: all I hear is just like grunting. I hear grunt
Speaker 1: and I hear it. You know, you can hear somebody
Speaker 1: doing something. And it's about two hours before practice. Literally
Speaker 1: Brown was in there lifting, So maybe he said the
Speaker 1: time for the first day, let me come back from borrow.
Speaker 1: Let's see. I get there, Brons on the court, Brown
Speaker 1: shooting and I'm just like, damn, like this is from
Speaker 1: year twelve for him at that time and uh five
Speaker 1: MVPs in two rings at the time, like he already
Speaker 1: had like man like that that that mindset, like he
Speaker 1: still have more work to do. So for me fast
Speaker 1: for or five years, he's doing the same ship. He's
Speaker 1: doing the same stuff. He's the first one in gym Um.
Speaker 1: You know he's a tremendous leader. His basketball all that
Speaker 1: ship speaks for us SOLF. But the camaraderie that he
Speaker 1: he creates around the league and around on team. Man,
Speaker 1: he has a relationship with everybody. He's amazing, bro, Like
Speaker 1: he's amazing. He's doing doing ship a year seventeen that
Speaker 1: guys don't do and in the year eight and their
Speaker 1: prim you're not in their prom. So it's just amazing
Speaker 1: to watch him on a nightly basis. For sure. I
Speaker 1: could tell, you know, I know other people could tell
Speaker 1: they played. Y'all really funk with each other and have fun.
Speaker 1: Like I see, the bench is always into it. Everyone
Speaker 1: is cheering for everyone. Tell me what that locker room
Speaker 1: is like, because locker rooms are blast and that's where
Speaker 1: you really get your camaraderie your ship talking like is
Speaker 1: everybody fair game? But every abody get it. Who's the joker?
Speaker 1: Who sensitive talk to us a little bit about that? No,
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys know what I mean. I think
Speaker 1: for me, the most fun is like the bus ride,
Speaker 1: playing ride the joker, the practice in the locker room.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the ship that, you know. My favorite
Speaker 1: thing in the NBA is I love getting those stories
Speaker 1: from the vets. I love hearing those stories that never
Speaker 1: made the media and never made public or real stories
Speaker 1: that did. That's my stories, crazy, y'all know what I mean.
Speaker 1: That's my favorite. That's my favorite. I think our team now, man,
Speaker 1: I think we're all like this jokes as we all.
Speaker 1: You know, if you walk in with a bad outfit,
Speaker 1: everybody gonna let you go. You walk in with some
Speaker 1: bullsh everybody from Avery brand, every Avery Avery, he gonna
Speaker 1: kill you. He If Danny Green Cools walks in, Jared
Speaker 1: Dully walking with something crazy, every gonna kill you. Bron
Speaker 1: gonna kill you. Everybody kills each other man. It's fun.
Speaker 1: Nobody's off limits, Everybody gets joked on up, nobody's nobody sensitive.
Speaker 1: It's fun. I love it because that's what people would
Speaker 1: ask me. Like, I got to play with some great
Speaker 1: players because I'm the one that's the ship talker jack
Speaker 1: like that. But I'm like, I'm talking, I'm talking, So
Speaker 1: I just talked because I'm fun. I like, like I
Speaker 1: really think it's important. Like and then when I play,
Speaker 1: you know, on balls to the wall for anybody and everybody,
Speaker 1: I'll kill for you on the court, but off the court,
Speaker 1: I'm the team joker. So everyone, you know, did you
Speaker 1: talk to Code? Did you do? Like, I'm talking to everybody,
Speaker 1: and that's what I'm saying. Like, those are the teams
Speaker 1: where you can talk ship to Steph. You could talk
Speaker 1: ship to Claire, you can talk to it to Katie,
Speaker 1: you can talk it to Kobe, you could talk ship
Speaker 1: to Brun. Those are like the best kind of locker
Speaker 1: rooms because that's when you're just with your brothers, because
Speaker 1: we're together so much like those loose times on the plane,
Speaker 1: the bus, hearing the stories, gambling, you know, in the
Speaker 1: locker room like them ship to the best part. I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously basketball is the blast, but those are the ship
Speaker 1: Like you think back, like, do you do miss I
Speaker 1: don't miss playing. I missed just having fun with my
Speaker 1: whole boys and talking shit. Yeah, I mean that's I mean,
Speaker 1: I always heard no guys who were out the league,
Speaker 1: Um you know who retired, who were who were doing
Speaker 1: other things. They're like, man, I mean playing was cool.
Speaker 1: I mean we all love to play. But that camaraderie,
Speaker 1: that togetherness, that filling a part of the team, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, that's something that guy's always mentioned they missed.
Speaker 1: So for me, you know, I always like to take
Speaker 1: advantage of it for sure. What's your best moment up
Speaker 1: to this point in the NBA? My best moment up
Speaker 1: to this point in the NBA is no, Uh, I'll
Speaker 1: say my last two years with the Warriors, actually playing
Speaker 1: and contributing in the playoffs. I think that's the big
Speaker 1: stage of basketball. Everybody's watching the license on the license
Speaker 1: right us. There is no fucking loads of management. It's
Speaker 1: no you know, we bat your backs. It's no back
Speaker 1: to back. So guys ain't resting, guys, can you know,
Speaker 1: there's no excuses. Everybody has time to prepare. You know,
Speaker 1: all records are are a race and the lights are
Speaker 1: the brightest at that time. So for me to have
Speaker 1: some a lot of big games and the playoffs and
Speaker 1: um some big games in the finals, I think that's
Speaker 1: my that's my biggest couple of moments in the league,
Speaker 1: and I'll take the most proud in. But that's dope.
Speaker 1: What's your all time starting five? My all time started five? Man.
Speaker 1: I always tell my homeboys this. I like my five.
Speaker 1: I like I like Broad at the one. I like
Speaker 1: Cold at the two. I like George at the two,
Speaker 1: I like Cold at the three, I like Katie at
Speaker 1: the four. And I like Shack at the five. Sounds
Speaker 1: like my line up. That was his line that was
Speaker 1: that was his line up. I just had him Duncan
Speaker 1: at the fourth. Yeah, I mean, you know, bring minds
Speaker 1: thinking like man, you know, you could put Brown anywhere,
Speaker 1: but you could play that point. You could play the
Speaker 1: power for you can around and put Brown and center
Speaker 1: at this point, you know what I mean, Because it
Speaker 1: might be tough to guard, but there ain't no way
Speaker 1: the sender's gonna be able to guard him on the
Speaker 1: other end. Not back then. Back then We're gonna imagine
Speaker 1: Shack trying to guard Bron. I mean, obviously Bron, Bron
Speaker 1: can't guard Shack, but I'm saying, like we go, he
Speaker 1: will run shocks astumping down that court. His motherfucking lips
Speaker 1: would be looking like yours tongue stuck to the roof
Speaker 1: of his mouth. Ship would be over shat is big
Speaker 1: and said, Hey, so your favorite movie growing up in
Speaker 1: Space Jam? Mike, you got the you got Lebron in
Speaker 1: Space Jam too. Any any inside info anything you stole
Speaker 1: or any kind of info you got for us on
Speaker 1: the Space Jam. You know, it's crazy. So when I
Speaker 1: signed at l A, I signed to the Liquors and
Speaker 1: I came out here early looking for a spot not
Speaker 1: linked with him. He worked out and uh him and
Speaker 1: Randy invited me up to the set. Um me, me,
Speaker 1: me and my cousin. So we went up there to
Speaker 1: the set and I spent the whole day with him,
Speaker 1: and I managed in the theater. So it was cool
Speaker 1: for me to like, actually, that's my first time actually
Speaker 1: being on the movie set. And literally Bron like worked
Speaker 1: down on the morning shower, a breakfast, and he was
Speaker 1: at the set on day acting. He would be on
Speaker 1: ten minutes take, a five minute breaking go again, take
Speaker 1: after take after take, and he's like, y'all know, Bron
Speaker 1: He's like has a handshake with the camera crew and
Speaker 1: then everybody and every every every actor he's messing around
Speaker 1: with and he'd come over to us and you know,
Speaker 1: talk ship, we're talking. Who's we're talking? You know? And
Speaker 1: you I remember that day Bronnie, Brannie and Brownie's team
Speaker 1: and U team never in Vegas. So a little bit
Speaker 1: during his lunch break, he was watching the game, man,
Speaker 1: and you know, back to back to acting. And the
Speaker 1: next day she will back up in the morning working out,
Speaker 1: and he did the same thing over again. Man, and
Speaker 1: Space Jan was crazy. It's gonna be cool, man. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm excited, man, because they put a lot of time
Speaker 1: and effort into that ship. You know who the monstar
Speaker 1: is gonna be? I don't, I don't. I don't. I
Speaker 1: know a D. A D might be one. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure though, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. But they
Speaker 1: they did a lot of stuff, some creative stuff, man,
Speaker 1: and I still didn't really understand. And too they started
Speaker 1: to bring it down to me. Man, when they make
Speaker 1: it all come to life, when they do yeah stuff
Speaker 1: and you know a lot of stuff that So it's
Speaker 1: gonna be crazy. But I can't wait. It's gonna be crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know when Space Jam one was
Speaker 1: our space show. I don't want to miss speak years
Speaker 1: ago to think how far technology has come since then,
Speaker 1: Like this is gonna insane, is gonna be insane, and
Speaker 1: people as the stars it should have happenn used the monstars.
Speaker 1: You look like a monster. But people was asking me,
Speaker 1: I remember when when when when this was first announced,
Speaker 1: people are asking like, well, this movie be big as
Speaker 1: big as Mike. This movie, to me is gonna be
Speaker 1: way bigger because it's a different atmosphere, a different time,
Speaker 1: and the special effects are going to be at another level.
Speaker 1: I can't wait. Man, It's gonna be crazy, all right. Normally,
Speaker 1: when we asked this question, when you before you ask it, whoever,
Speaker 1: you say, if you have a connect on this person,
Speaker 1: then you have to hook us up. You gotta make
Speaker 1: it happen. So who should be a guest on our show?
Speaker 1: Who do you think should be a guest on our show?
Speaker 1: Your teammate that you were just talking about, what's going on?
Speaker 1: I think I think y'all should get a d D. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've been talking to a D about getting up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're supposed to get him right before we went into
Speaker 1: Lockdown two. When you think of a D like people
Speaker 1: don't think mis understood that he went through his whole life,
Speaker 1: bro and and you and you know, just just just
Speaker 1: just just going to I mean, he was he was
Speaker 1: unknown to being the number one player in the country,
Speaker 1: like overnight, you know, he was the national Player of
Speaker 1: the year, won the championship first pick. And he's like
Speaker 1: he went from not being known to all this all
Speaker 1: this stuff and going through the New Orleans and he
Speaker 1: got to play on the Olympic team in twenty twelve
Speaker 1: and being an All Star injuries after how he got
Speaker 1: treated in New Orleans last year, just injuries. You know,
Speaker 1: people saying like he never you know, won a playoff
Speaker 1: game whatever till he played us a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: Just I mean, he's been through a lot, man. And
Speaker 1: when he gave to his teammates, to the game, to
Speaker 1: the organization, man, I think it is isn't appreciated publicly enough. Man.
Speaker 1: I think he's one of the you know, the best
Speaker 1: players that to play. So I think, you know, he
Speaker 1: should come on here and talk his ship man, because
Speaker 1: because he because he needs to start talking and ship
Speaker 1: more man, because he's a bad d. He's a healpable
Speaker 1: player though, and you don't hear him talking too much,
Speaker 1: like you don't ever really hear I don't recall seeing
Speaker 1: no one any like you don't hear him, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, that's the player you right, it
Speaker 1: is here, come on this show and talking shop. I
Speaker 1: was already talking too. We don't get him on, but
Speaker 1: he needs to start talking to ship. That's a bad
Speaker 1: motherfucker right there. Man. For real, any movies or shows
Speaker 1: you're beinge watching or on repeat right now? You always
Speaker 1: watched The Wire um once every year. So when all
Speaker 1: this ship started, I rewatched that. I rewatched Curb Your Enthusiasm.
Speaker 1: Me and my girl we're watching for life right now,
Speaker 1: that fifty cents show. That's really it, man, That's that's
Speaker 1: really it. Man. I'm playing. I'm playing so many video
Speaker 1: games I'm playing. I'm playing way too. Who was your
Speaker 1: funniest teammate? I mean it was Baron Davis Disney Man,
Speaker 1: he's a character. He's character. The markets is funny as hell,
Speaker 1: Rondo's funny, Dudley's that's hilarious. Dollar Andre is funny as hell.
Speaker 1: Clay is funny in his own way. Yeah, Clay is
Speaker 1: that you want to know? Clay is funny, He's just
Speaker 1: Clay is funny in his way. That's funny. You said that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't even have to say much to be funny.
Speaker 1: This is hope to meet their posture. Man, he's a
Speaker 1: he's a he's a different dude. Man, I love Clay.
Speaker 1: A historical dinner with anybody, just a dope conversation, a
Speaker 1: dope night, just kicking back. Any five people, not counting yourself.
Speaker 1: Who would be at your table? Michael, Jordan's um, Kobe Bryant,
Speaker 1: Malcolm X, lor Wayne for last one, jay Z jay Z.
Speaker 1: That would be a hand of a dinner board. I'd
Speaker 1: be a hand of a dinner Kobe, Mike, Wayne, Jay
Speaker 1: and Malcolm X. Y'all gonna fox him up that night. Hey, artists,
Speaker 1: artists are song gonna repeat? Are you jamming? I know
Speaker 1: you're jamming? A little baby man, man, A little my
Speaker 1: My my brother man, My brother is dirty. One of
Speaker 1: my best friends. We both living a man. I'm with him.
Speaker 1: If I'm not working out, I'm with him. Studio, video games,
Speaker 1: all that ship. So I listened to Dirk all day,
Speaker 1: gonna one of my one of my guys, the dough
Speaker 1: boy baby going crazy. Obviously, Shot Lizzie. I grew up
Speaker 1: with Shot Lizzie. One of my close friends and a
Speaker 1: lot mans. It's a Kodak Black, one of my favorite rappers.
Speaker 1: So free code that dirty right now. Yeah, man doing
Speaker 1: dirty in the pen right now. Man, Ship Ship Ship
Speaker 1: crazy bron. I'll hope you stand strong and I'm praying
Speaker 1: for his family for sure. So, like we said earlier,
Speaker 1: you had a similar journey. It was in you know,
Speaker 1: sweet to begin with, after everything you've been through up
Speaker 1: to this point, although you're just starting, what kind of
Speaker 1: encouraging words would you have for someone trying to follow
Speaker 1: in your footsteps and keep going? I mean obviously cliche,
Speaker 1: keep going, Um, stay positive, all the cliche stuff. But
Speaker 1: for me, man, like you get caught up in you know, followers,
Speaker 1: you can get caught up in money. You can get
Speaker 1: caught up in how long. And you know, guys used
Speaker 1: to I used to look at guys like man, he
Speaker 1: was he was only in college for two years. Um,
Speaker 1: he ain't become a start to the third end of league.
Speaker 1: Stuff like that, Man, And just just run your on race,
Speaker 1: keep going, a lot of people gonna tell you ship
Speaker 1: that you know that it's really hating Man. For me,
Speaker 1: I ain't the tallest, like the fastest, I ain't the strongest.
Speaker 1: So now I have a shot coming up. People ain't
Speaker 1: giving me a shot like people. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I was too small, too slow, ship like that. But
Speaker 1: I I ain't really care about all that ship man. People.
Speaker 1: When I got out of the court, they're about to
Speaker 1: see me, and I was gonna see about them. So
Speaker 1: my thing is run your on race man, and that's it.
Speaker 1: I love that I could tell, like I said, I
Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to really get to know you.
Speaker 1: We have mutual friends and teammates and everybody respects you, man,
Speaker 1: So it was it was an honor to get down
Speaker 1: to get to know you a little bit better. We're
Speaker 1: gonna exchange information to get down and with a little bro.
Speaker 1: But thank you man for your time today. We appreciate
Speaker 1: your time. Good luck, God bless you with your family
Speaker 1: and ship man. If you guys get back in, go
Speaker 1: get that championship. I just want to say thank you'
Speaker 1: all what y'all doing for the coach and what y'all
Speaker 1: doing as as as as people who has been in
Speaker 1: the league as one league, as as been successful in
Speaker 1: the league, and you know y'all didn't y'all own way man,
Speaker 1: and what y'are doing, you know, for the culture, not
Speaker 1: just basketball, but but before US African Americans growing up.
Speaker 1: Y'all talk about every every situation going on a positive ship.
Speaker 1: That the ship that needs to be saying, y'all don't
Speaker 1: hold back on nothing, man, and that ship means a
Speaker 1: lot to to myself and my peers and everybody. Man.
Speaker 1: So I appreciate what y'all doing because I want to
Speaker 1: be like y'all, want to make a lot of fucking
Speaker 1: money with some chips and play the key back and
Speaker 1: have my own my own ship after doing my way
Speaker 1: after he SPN TV all that, man, I appreciate you all, man,
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