1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: From my high school team. We have five guys make 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: the NBA. We head the County Rocket gets some mecca 3 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: of basketball. Here are those who come before us, upon 4 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:22,159 Speaker 1: whose shoulders we stand. It's nothing that you can do 5 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: to stop the competitive and there's just in the water. 6 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: Welcome back to a special quarantine edition. We got a 7 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: real special guys. What's up with your Brodie with the 8 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: virtual handshake. I'm gonna tell you something that I never 9 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: told nobody. I want to smoke. Welcome back to another 10 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: quarantine edition of all the Smoke coming to you from 11 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: l A. My brother Jack's in the bay. My bad, 12 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: My brother Jack is in the A. I wish I 13 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: was in the bay. Straight up. I'm sad. I got 14 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: rid of my house out there. Man. That ship was 15 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: the spot up in the hills. Said, was that ship 16 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: hurt my soul? To my ship hurt my soul to 17 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: get get rid of that house, bro But it just 18 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: wasn't cost efficient anymore. Excited about today's guests. Haven't got 19 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: a chance to personally meet him, but I've heard a 20 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: lot of great things about him. Currently playing for the 21 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Lakers and also an executive producer on Basketball 22 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 1: County in the water showing right now on showtime. Welcome 23 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: to Quinn Cook. What's good, bro? Family, how y'all doing? Man? 24 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 1: I appreciate having no thanks for coming. Bro. You want 25 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: to show now and you basically fail me. So I 26 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: gotta tell you that you look like an e walk 27 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: right now. Bro, you gotta get get cleaned up. Huh. 28 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: That boy got the mountain man growing out. I'm thuking 29 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: until we stil we're back outside and the world gets 30 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: back going. Man, I'm talking man, you gonna let it 31 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: ride out. See Hey, I was getting rough too, man, 32 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: I had to. I told my barber to come in 33 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: gloved up, face master, bodied up because my ship was 34 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: because I started looking rough. I look in the mirror 35 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: like yo, God, damn, I know I face time to 36 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: come to my teammates broad uh, Keith does everybody? Everybody 37 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: looks rough? So you know we're gonna keeping you still. 38 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: You still, you know you can get that off women. Actually, 39 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: So how's everything holding up? Man? Right now? This is 40 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: obviously new to all of us. You you mentioned a 41 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,679 Speaker 1: few of your teammates how you been holding up during 42 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: these times? It has been a unique situation for everyone. 43 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: Obviously you guys can attest to that. For for me 44 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: being you know, still actively playing, it's been unique. But 45 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: I think our leaders and our team have have kept 46 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: us with the mindset like, look, it doesn't matter how 47 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: long we're quarantine, doesn't matter how law on the leagues 48 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: on hold, and when we get back, we still gotta 49 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: go win this thing. And guys have been speaking every day, um, 50 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: you know, working out when you can. Um. A lot 51 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: of guys don't have access to certain things, so we 52 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 1: gotta improvise still. But at the same time, we got 53 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: to keep that same goal to mind. And personally, I'm 54 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 1: enjoyed this time. For me, I love the fact that 55 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: that that's the mindset if and when you guys get 56 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: back to work, you got the championship to win, and 57 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: that's how you guys are talking, and that's how you 58 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: guys are feeling. Yeah, facts, I mean, you know that's 59 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: everybody who comes back. We all got to go through 60 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: the same thing. I mean, everybody's saying, whoever wins it 61 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: will be an asterid next to name. I don't believe 62 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: that we all we all got it. We're all going 63 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: through it, so I mean, and it's gonna come down 64 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: up you know whose teams are closest, who didn't bullshit 65 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: during this time, and you know, hopefully we can just 66 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: get the league back going right. I love that you 67 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: guys got a team of That's what I liked about 68 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: your team. Jack picked you guys to win. I picked 69 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: the Clippers. But to me, if it's not the Clippers, 70 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: it'll be you. I think that the championship is going 71 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: to come back to the West. But you guys have 72 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: a bunch of veteran guys that have been there, done that. 73 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: And then I mean, you got Lebron which is a 74 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: cheap code, but you guys got a whole bunch of 75 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: veterans that have won championships and been in big games, 76 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: which boes well. And you even as a young player, 77 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You won a championship with 78 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: the Warriors, so you know what it's like to be close. 79 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: And then I think you hit that on the head. 80 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,119 Speaker 1: The team to stay the closest, stay down, and stay 81 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: as ready as possible, are going to have a great 82 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: opportunity to win. Facts. You gotta knowle being champions, I 83 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: mean our targets on our back every night, and you know, 84 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: we gotta deal with a lot of ship during the year, 85 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: and this is just more stuff to add on about 86 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: thinking to make a story better for sure. That's so 87 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: you're playing in the to that two K tournament. Who's 88 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: your team and who's been your toughest battle? I want 89 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: this man right now. I'll put the two K down. Man, 90 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: I'll be getting crap. I ain't that good at two K. 91 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: I want this man right now. I'm doing I Man, 92 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: I forgot my team and two K. That's how bad 93 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: I am. I ain't even mad at that. I don't 94 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: play I never played See. I never played too because 95 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: when I WHO, I still never really played a period. 96 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: I never played two I always played MAD and I 97 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: played some of the shooting games, but I never played 98 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: WHO because like that was our job. I kind of 99 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: want to get away from it, you know what I mean. 100 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: Like just the other day, my homie See Webb, you know, 101 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: shout out Chris wherever he hit me up, Like yo, 102 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: I'm doing a a two K tournament and it's gonna 103 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: be this is and that. I'm like, bro, I don't 104 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: even I'm sorry. I don't even play two K. So 105 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 1: I never really got into two K that much. Even 106 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: I'm locked in on call of duty right now. And man, 107 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: I don't play two ks. I never played it. But 108 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: tell me this Q, what aspect of normal life you 109 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: took for granted? You know that that that you appreciate 110 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: now while in quarantine? Great question. First thing is going 111 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: outside and just like you know, being able to interact 112 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: with people, going to grocery stores like now, like you're 113 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: very you know, aware of you know who's close to you, 114 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: who's coughing, who's touching certain things, and traveling freely and 115 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: just being around your family like I haven't. Like I 116 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: live in the AIDS as well, and I went to 117 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: the AID after this whole quarantine fourteen day thing was 118 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: lifted from our team, and like my grandma lives in 119 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: the A and I couldn't go see my grandma for 120 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: five and attendent and have our little talks, you know that, 121 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: because that that kind of hurt me. I ain't see 122 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: my mom in a minute because I really we still 123 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: don't understand, you know, how this virus work. So that 124 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: just just being able just to move friendly and and 125 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,239 Speaker 1: and doing what you want to do on a daily 126 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: basis is something now, you know, and learning from all 127 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: this outside of playing basketball what's the first thing you 128 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: want to do? Um, Once this this this band is 129 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: lifted in it, it's safe to go back out outside 130 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: of basketball. I'm going I'm going to a newsing park. 131 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get on some roller coasters. I'm I'm gonna 132 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: be I'm gona be back with the people. I'm you 133 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, just be outside, would be outside 134 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: but legs man, everything being man. Yeah, that's what's up. 135 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: So I mentioned in earlier the doc that that UH 136 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: is releasing on Showtime. H in the Water. You were 137 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: an executive producer on that alone with Kevin Durant, Rich 138 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: Climbing and Victor Oldwadipo. Talk to us a little bit 139 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: about that because that ship is dope. Like, I didn't 140 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: realize how many talented players, legends have to have came 141 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: from your area p G County. Yeah, I mean it's 142 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: a dream come true for me. It means the world 143 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: growing up, you know, I wanted to be something there 144 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: for me. I always had, you know, Katie to go 145 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: um see and touch and Jerry Jack Nolan Smith Busily, 146 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: Jeff Green, Victor it was my best friend growing up. 147 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: Same aoutle ofmentary school and middle school, high school. Um, 148 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: I just had you know, so much resources to go 149 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: touch where. You know, anytime you know I slacked off 150 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: or you know it was crying or wasn't on my ship, 151 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: I always had those guys to you know, remind me 152 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: this is the goal. And uh, for me to be 153 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: ep on this, for Katie and Rich to bring me on, Um, 154 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: it's something that I was doing on my own already. Um, 155 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: and they brought me on and we built you know, 156 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: something special and uh guys did a tremendous job with it. 157 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: And I know everybody I loved. Yes see, I didn't know, 158 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: I didn't know Lynn Bias was from that area. Adrian 159 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: Dadley want Williams, the Mark Johnson and gotta think these 160 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: are all the names that made it. But we all 161 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: know people from our area that were dopest funk that 162 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: just never made it for one reason or another. So 163 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a bunch of other legends out there 164 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: that never really even got on. No, for sure, for sure, 165 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: like you said, everybody from every hood, every city, we 166 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: all have those guys who you know, we're more talented 167 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: than us, had the same talented as us. But you know, 168 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: the streets could have you know, taking them or made 169 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: them make decisions that you know, they didn't reach their potential. 170 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: The politics ain't work out in high school, college or whatever. So, um, 171 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: you know, we're so lucky, we're so blessed to have 172 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: made it as far as as we have myself and 173 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: you too. You guys know that. But there's always guys, 174 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: even till still to this day when you go home 175 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: without playing pick up, these guys and nobody's ever heard 176 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: of that. Still, you know, would be some of the 177 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: best players on the court if they just you know, 178 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: made some different decisions in their lives. Short absolutely, yeah, 179 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: I know, I know. I played basketball with a lot 180 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: with a got that they don't know that went to 181 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: o Kill just like you did. As Chef. He rest 182 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: in peace as Cheff. You know what I'm saying. He 183 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: from he from around that way too. And also shout 184 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: out to my man. Shout out to my man Curtis, 185 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: to Curtis Malone. But tell me this, what, um, what 186 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: was it like growing up in PG County? For me, 187 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: it was fun. It was fun. I mean, you had 188 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: so much to do. You five minutes outside of the 189 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: d C, so you had the city life. It was 190 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: a lot going on, and I had so much to do. 191 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: My neighborhood it was so many hoopers and so many 192 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: football players. Used to play throwback tackle on the concrete, 193 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: will be all on the side playing one oh one 194 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: thirty three. Um. It was fun. And then you start 195 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: getting older, you start getting into a you, and you 196 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: started getting recruited by high schools and stuff, and you 197 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: got Jerry Jack and Sam Young coming back home pulling 198 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: up in the Billies. You got Katie going going to 199 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: the league after one year of beas they going so 200 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: they got the one year. So you just got so 201 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: so many dreams and aspirations being captured. So that made 202 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: you go even harder. And you still had that city field, 203 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: So it was fun for me. I had the ball. 204 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: That's dope. So you said you built a relationship with 205 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: Oliver Deepot early. What was it like teaming up with 206 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: him at the matha obviously resting peach coach. What was 207 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: it like playing there? And what do you what do 208 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: you take from that experience the most? It was fun 209 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: for me. We met in the fifth grade, y'all transferred 210 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: to the school. I had no friends, and literally the 211 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: first day he didn't know me. I don't know him. 212 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: He came up to me. It was like, yo, if 213 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: y'all know, you knew it looked like you know what 214 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: I'm saying. You You ain't talking nobody to day. You 215 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: don't got no friends, so you know I'm your friend. 216 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: Like That's basically how I went first day of school 217 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: my fifth grade year, and we playing the same team 218 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: from fifth grade for me until my love grade years. 219 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: From six straight years. You know, we went from elementary 220 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: school basketball to middle school basketball, to high school basketball. 221 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: And when we got to high school, we went to 222 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: the Matha, which is the biggest school in the area, 223 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: and the license on the license bright. Me and him 224 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: ain't really play a lot our first year, um, and 225 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: then we kind of just got better, got better our 226 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: second year together. You know, we kind of took the 227 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: league and in the city by storm. In our third year, 228 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: it was it was Curtis for everybody we was running 229 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: through the city. We both made a first team All 230 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: met which is a big deal in our area, and 231 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: we kept pushing each other man and it's it's crazy 232 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,719 Speaker 1: that we both made it to our dreams and we 233 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: still push them. Tell me what your relationship with Katie 234 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: was like, um, in your eyes, how was he growing up? 235 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: Katie is the same way he is today. Both of 236 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: y'all have great relationships with him. Y'all know how cool 237 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: with chill and how down on earth he is. Um 238 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: for me, Uh, he became our big brother. We played 239 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 1: on the same while. I was on a younger AU team, 240 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: the PG Jaguars, and he was on older, the older team, 241 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: So obviously we linked there from them. Um, his family, 242 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: his mom's dad. I used to always you know, look 243 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: after me like I was one of theirs. And uh, 244 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: he just always had my back. We used to go 245 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: to run the shoot all day and uh, you know, 246 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: he would always make sure I got picked. And you know, 247 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: he was just a big brother. And back then, Katie 248 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: wasn't who he was. He just was a tall, a tall, 249 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 1: lucky kid who had a lot of talent. And you 250 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: just seen him every day just getting better and better 251 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: and better. And you know, he hasn't changed at all, man, 252 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: And he's always had my back. Off seven years old. 253 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 1: His mamma treat everybody like that. She's every time she 254 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: seen me, she getting me a hug, like she's like, 255 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: oh baby, how are you doing? You know, man, I 256 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: just remember her screaming on the sidelines. We used to 257 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: play them in the playoffs. But she treats everybody like 258 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: her son. Yeah, yeah, she's the best for sure. All Okill, 259 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: let's talk about that. We both from Okill. We got 260 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: a long line of NBA players, a long a lot 261 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: of people. And you know what's funny though, Bro, Two 262 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: weeks ago, I got a text from a two six 263 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: seven number. I had no idea who it was, right, 264 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: and they called me two three times. They called two 265 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: or three times. Cute and I hung the phone up right, 266 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: I got I read the test mans a couple of 267 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: days ago, because I never really read the test man. 268 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 1: It was coach Smith Bro, So I got a call 269 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: him back down. I got it, and I haven't talked 270 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: to him in years. But tell me about your experience, Okaill, 271 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: and how that all came about. Man, it was fun, 272 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: you know, growing up and then you started like really 273 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: focusing on you know, who's the best players and what 274 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: college this guy's going to, and you know what guy 275 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: in the NBA is this, And you start really like 276 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: doing research and stuff. A lot of guys you when 277 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 1: you find out went to Okill. So and I was 278 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: always dreaming my growing up. You know, Mellow was there, 279 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: Katie was there, Rondo guys that when I was young. Um, 280 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: I know I was there and something I always want 281 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: to do because I felt like, you know, you were 282 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: doing something well. If coach Smith recruited you, Coach Smith 283 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: wanted you to be on the team. So Nolan Smith 284 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: was my big brother. He went there and I founded 285 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: a relationship with coach Smith UM, and you know, I 286 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: decided to go there my senior year. I think you 287 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: know what I did in the area of my junior 288 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: you know, it was something incredible. The first junior to 289 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 1: win All met Player of the Year in thirty years, 290 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: won a championship, and Victor and Jaren Grant Um, those 291 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: guys were graduating. So I wanted a new challenge. So 292 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: I took my UM senior year. I wanted to go 293 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 1: to o'kill and play for coach Smith and playing the 294 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: national schedule, you know, to get everybody's best shot every 295 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 1: single day. Were ones then all the time, and I 296 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: want to get ready for college. I wanted to start early, 297 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: living by myself, making sure ship is done without my mom, 298 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: you know, reminded me and stuff like that, so I thought, yeah, 299 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 1: growing up ship for me and uh I needed that 300 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: bade between DeMatha and UM O kill. How many of 301 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: your teammates went pro to the NBA? Damn well, My 302 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: my sophomore year at DeMatha, we had five out of 303 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: our top six players playing the NBA. UM who were 304 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: so were they? Myself, Victor all the devote Jared Grant, 305 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: Jeremy Grant, Johs Shelby door to the five and we 306 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: had ten or eleven gold d one nothing low like 307 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: nothing like se State, uh Texas A and them we 308 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: had all high majors. O kill. My bad court was 309 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: me and been back for more from the Rockets. Jordan 310 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: Adams who got drafted by the Grizzlies a couple of 311 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: years ago. A J. Hammonds who got drafted by the 312 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: mad Rix, Damian Wilson play at Memphis on Keith Hornsby, 313 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: who's in the gene the couple um years past, couple 314 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: of years and uh, you know, I've had a lot 315 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: of time just with pros, you know, since I was young. 316 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: So it was a dream come true for me just 317 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: to see guys, you know, not just myself making, but 318 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: see my guys who I saw ground and I saw it. 319 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: Bet the Ozzy deal with bullshit make the league. So um, 320 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: I'm definitely proud of those guys for sure. How do 321 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: you compare PG County to other uh, you know hot 322 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: beds around the country. You know New York has don't 323 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: for basketball, Callie does their thing. You know Texas has people. 324 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: Uh how do you compare PG County to style play 325 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: of other hot beds throughout the country. For me, I 326 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: think of what makes it so unique is that you 327 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: know what you think of callim or you can say 328 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: l A. You know, you gotta think of how big 329 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: l A is. New York has all different boroughs. Um, 330 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: what makes us unique is that you know, all of 331 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: us are ten minutes away from each other, literally go 332 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: to the same church, go go to the same Barbara's 333 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: just everything. It's just so close. Um. And I just 334 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: think the style of players that like, I just think 335 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: we we we we kind of have everything, not like 336 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: just like we have the swag, like, man, you can 337 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: tell that dudes from PG or you know, all of 338 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: us can kind of dribble, all of us can shoot 339 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: it a little bit, um and uh, everybody has that toughness. 340 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: So I think we kind of have a lot of 341 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: styles in all of our game. That's crazy to think 342 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: that that's just like basically the same neighborhoods all around 343 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: each other. Really have that much of town, Like you said, 344 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: you don't have to really go across the whole city. 345 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: It was right in that area. Yeah. Yeah, fact, let's 346 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: jump ahead to college. You sign a letter intend to 347 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: Duke um Nationally. You were one of the kids that 348 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: was you know, it was all over TV where you 349 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: were going. You chose over Villanova, u C l A, 350 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: North Carolina. What was it about Duke that made you 351 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: sign there? Yeah? Coach k was the main reason I 352 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: wanted to play for him. You you just grow up, 353 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: watch the TV. You see him on the ESPN every day, 354 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: just growing up. He was coaching the team USA, and 355 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: he had relationships with Kobe and and Braun and and 356 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: Jordan and Katie just everybody that I wanted to be like. 357 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: You know, he coached, So that was my main thing. 358 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: And then it was close enough for my mom. You know, 359 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: she used to take the bus down and she couldn't drive. 360 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: She'll take the bus down. Easy to make a bus, 361 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 1: ten dollar bus. He'll drive down five hours before the game, 362 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: get there for game time, give me a hug, and 363 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: get right back on the bus, which was like U 364 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: c l A was like far she couldn't really see 365 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: me played, Um feeling over had like a lot of guards. 366 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: Um and uh, I just don't it made sense, man. 367 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: And like I said earlier, my big brother, KNOWA Smith, 368 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: went there, so you know, it was definitely an easy 369 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: decision for me because you know, they struggled at first 370 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: and then became a CNC Player of the Year, National 371 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: Player the Year and got drafted. So I wanted to 372 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: do just what he did for sure. Speaking of coach 373 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: k obviously, uh arguably one of the greatest coaches ever, 374 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: not arguably one of the greatest coaches ever. What was 375 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: the best piece of advice he gave you that still 376 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: sticks with you today. I think the biggest thing that 377 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: he taught us when I was there and myself is next, 378 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: play next, play in life, next playing basketball. Obviously, in basketball, 379 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: if you make it three, you can't fucking celebrate, and 380 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: you know chance, you gotta get back on defense. You 381 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: turn the ball over, you can't hold your head and 382 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: keep that thing, keep that turnover in your head. But 383 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 1: for me, in life, it's like ship, you don't make 384 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: the NBA, you get cut from a team. Man, next opportunity, next, uh, 385 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: next phase in your life. If you don't get that job, 386 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: if you feel that test, you can't dwell on your fay. 387 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: You gotta let the fingers keep pushing you to be great, 388 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 1: and and and and the flip side is, you know, 389 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: if you get to the league, you can't you know, 390 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: just spending money and think you've made it because because 391 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 1: for me, like it was so hard getting the league, 392 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: it's even harder staying in the league. And obviously you 393 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: guys know that. So um next playing life is just 394 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: keeping that mindset. Man, we gotta keep going, gotta keep moving, 395 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: gonna keep working. What was the college experience, not not 396 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: the basketball side, but what was being a college student 397 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: like that? Do? I mean everybody tells you it was 398 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: a little different. For me. It wasn't your traditional like 399 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: I like, I wasn't your traditional guy who went to 400 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 1: do I was a little different. Uh. And growing up, man, 401 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: I grew up besides going to the Mantel, which was 402 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 1: a cadelic school and okaill like, I never really had 403 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: experience like you know, with with other races because Prince 404 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: George's county is predominantly black. So when I got to 405 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: do it was just like a whole new world. So 406 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: I was lucky. You know. We had n C and 407 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: T down the street. We had no killing a central 408 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: downa street we had. I was at you, you boably 409 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: thought I went to central. I just I was always 410 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: that central, messing around pre dance. Just you know that. 411 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: That gave me that Back home, you have to be 412 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: creative at kill all day, no, you know, now for show. 413 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: But we had the team team, you know, we we 414 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: we lived in that house, so we was in the 415 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: house all day messing with the team. So I gave 416 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: me that. That aln't feel as well. But when I 417 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: got to college, man, it was, it was. It was 418 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 1: a lot. It was a lot of changes I need 419 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: to make for sure. You got a chance to play with. 420 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 1: Uh Yeah, Duke Ogleford, Tyres Jones, Justice Wooden, low Seth Curry, 421 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: Jabari Parker, Austin Rivers. You guys had a squad, a 422 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: Duke we did. We did. We did a real squad. 423 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: How long did it take for you guys to jail 424 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: and come together? Obviously, Coach k is a huge influence 425 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: on that. But like you said, everyone is coming from 426 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: different backgrounds and has different accolades. And how long did 427 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: if you feel that it took your guys team to 428 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: really start hitting their stride. I think each year was different. 429 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: My first year with myself Austin as freshman, we had 430 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 1: Seth Curry, we had all three Plumber brothers. That team 431 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: took took a while because our team was kind of 432 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: all over the place. We always had like a new 433 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: starting lineup every single year. We were very talented, but 434 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: we never really found our identity and we ended up 435 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: losing in the first round. To see that mccolor obviously 436 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: the famous game and he put us out. He went crazy. 437 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: Our next year was my soft here was probably one 438 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: of our most talented teams. Um we end up losing 439 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: their lead eight to illuisbu Um. But my senior year 440 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: was the best year for me um just I think 441 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: that was the peerst year. I think everybody was on 442 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: the same page. Nobody cared about draft status, nobody cared 443 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: about how many points they scored. We genuinely just wanted 444 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: to win every single game, and myself, being a senior 445 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: on that team, it was my last chance to do 446 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: something you know that I'll be remembered for that. Dude. 447 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: I had a decent first three years, but that last year, 448 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: you know, I think, you know, kind of gave me 449 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: a stamp. As you know, I did something in college, man, 450 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: because those first three years, you know, we lost two 451 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 1: times early, we lost in the leade eight and that, dude, Man, 452 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: you can remember for winning obviously, you know, you always 453 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: want to go to the league and be a lottery 454 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 1: pick and ship like that. But I wanted to win 455 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: the championship while I was there, and you know, we 456 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: finally got it done my senior year, which was, you know, 457 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: incredible feeling. You took kind of a similar path to me. 458 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: Although I was drafted in the second round, you weren't drafted. 459 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: You had to take the other route, you know, Jack 460 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: had to take a different route. Talk to us with that. 461 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: That because of the ship. I want to say, when 462 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: I was in the D League or G League or 463 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: whatever the hell it's called, I think it was the 464 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: D League back then, it was like the second year. 465 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: So that was the worst ship ever, Like, no bullshit. 466 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: It was long bus rides, little cropduster LaBamba planes, Like 467 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: I'm like fucking I'd rather just a car drive bro, 468 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: no bullshit like the planes where it was just fucked up, 469 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: and it made me think like, but my grind was like, man, 470 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: funk this like I'm not meant like, this is not 471 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 1: what this is not my path, you know what I mean? Like, 472 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: so I had to really grind and that was my 473 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: hunger behind me getting up out of that D League 474 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: man or G league? Was it said? It was that 475 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: a similar situation you like you said you had seen 476 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: so much great talent from high school to college to 477 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: win a national championship, to go undrafted and be like, Okay, 478 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: like you said earlier, what's the next grind? Talk to 479 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: us about that? Man, great question. Yeah, I got it. 480 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: I got in to the D League, I think it was. 481 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: I played two years in the D League where it 482 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: was called the D League. Um and and and a 483 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: lot of guys that I know who played in the 484 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: D League they say that it was way worse when 485 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 1: they were in it, So I imagine when you played 486 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: in it. But for me now, I was tough man 487 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 1: because ship growing up, you know, I was always the guy. 488 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: I was always the guy, and uh um, it was 489 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: tough going to going to too powerhouse high school is 490 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: going to do. You know, everybody's your bro. You play, 491 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 1: you play a great game. You got thirty text messages, 492 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: Timis calls. You know, everybody wants to put up on 493 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: you and and and being part of the journeyman, and 494 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: you know after being All American my senior year and 495 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: winning the chip not getting drafted, you gotta go take 496 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 1: a six hour bus route before Wayne, Indiana and then 497 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: Grand Rapids, Michigan. Um, you playing on Facebook Live instead 498 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: of Primetown ESPN, and after the game you only get 499 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: to text messages and really want because you know Mom's 500 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: gonna text you. It was automatic. But other than that, 501 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: dudes ain't because I played Can't Ohio, So dudes wasn't 502 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: pulling up on me and can and you know, posting 503 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: my highlights and stuff like I was at dude, So 504 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: it was I needed it. Man. That was real eye 505 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: opening for me. That's this ship that made me like it. 506 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: When I finally got my chance to the league, it 507 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: was like me or youth. So I'm we're gonna fight 508 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: do whatever because I'm not going back to that ship, 509 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I'd rather go play football, funk that. 510 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,959 Speaker 1: So now it's obviously better you're seeing kids. What are 511 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: your thoughts about kids now jumping from high school to 512 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: the G League because obviously it's a lot different now 513 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: they're getting bread and and it's a little different than 514 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 1: obviously the league continues to grow. Now it's an amazing 515 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: minor league system. But I'm talking about back in the day, 516 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: early two thousands. But what are your thoughts on kids 517 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: making that jump? I like you. I like it because 518 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: I think it's time for GEN League to start getting 519 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: the recognition that they deserve. I think, you know, people 520 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: can get lost down there. I mean, you know you're 521 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: gonna as to what I mean. When I was in it, 522 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: you know, there was you know, uh, first round picks. 523 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: It was lottery picks, guys that I grew up watching, 524 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: you know, in college and the league down they're still 525 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: trying to trying to make it work. But guys get 526 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: lost down there. Man. Guys blame ship, They blamed the agent, 527 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: they blame their their their their previous coach, they blamed 528 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: this and that. Um, I mean, can it can wear them? 529 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: But for me, I was I knew I was down there. 530 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: This is a pit style. I had to work with myself, 531 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: work on my game. I wasn't really trying to do 532 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: all that wanting ship because I knew we Ally was 533 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: down there for a reason. Man. The politics, the politics 534 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: and and all that ship. Yeah, that's life. But I 535 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: wasn't trying to blame nobody. Man, I'm down it for 536 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: a reason. I told myself, Man, I got to be 537 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: the best player while I'm down here in practice. And 538 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: you're telling Damon Jones, my coach my first year, and 539 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: like literally like we'll work out before I practice. You know, 540 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: we'll go as as hard as we can't do in practice, 541 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 1: we'll work out after, man. And I was really just 542 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: getting ready for that ten day where you go from 543 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: the from the D League, you after thirty. I was 544 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: aging like seven eight like something crazy, like like some 545 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: crazy numbers. But I was preparing myself forward when I 546 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: got called up on that ten day for those twelve minutes. 547 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: I might get for those last four minutes because you 548 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: rarely you ain't getting called up to score thirty. You 549 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: gotta you get called up to be the eleventh and 550 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: twelve man. So once once people start realizing that, man, 551 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: I think, um, it's great. But the definitely it's getting loved. 552 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: Now they're getting bread and you know how school kids 553 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: Damon Green is gonna make it even better. And you 554 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: know the guys, it's hungry down there. So no, I 555 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: think it's great what they're doing. For sure. Talk to 556 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: me a little bit about I think you touched on 557 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: which was great. Like we all killed in high school, 558 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, killed like thirty average thirty, 559 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: did whatever, all these accolades. But when you hit the NBA, 560 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: it's a different mindset. You have to it's so important 561 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: to know your role as you I killed in the 562 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: in the in the D League too, but I knew 563 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 1: when I got that ten day call up, I knew 564 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: instantly what the funk I had to do. I knew 565 00:26:58,600 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: I had to play defense. I knew I had to 566 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: be a dog, so that normal role you may take 567 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: in a lesser situation. I think what allowed me to 568 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: last so long was I knew what the funk my 569 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: role was, and you obviously seem like it. Really it 570 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: made me smile when you said, like I went from 571 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: killing to like knowing what the funk I gotta do 572 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: in my twelve minutes, because it's a completely different mindset. 573 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: You still have to be you, but as a player 574 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: that's you know, coming in you really have to try 575 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: to look around the team and see what's needed and 576 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: plug those holes. Yeah for sure. I mean you guys, 577 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: you guys know, you guys know play long cafreer and 578 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: you know one TIMPs just been on great teams. I 579 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: think it's a skilled would be a great teammate. And 580 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: like you said, we all are here, are here for 581 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: a reason. O G is Jared Jack. That's like who 582 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: I want to be. Like, like, he's a guy. You 583 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: know it wasn't an All star, was a great player, 584 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: solid player, but he commanded the respect from you know, 585 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:54,959 Speaker 1: his teammates, referees, coaches, um, front office management, all that stuff. 586 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: And you know he's not the most athletic guy, he's 587 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: not the most talented guy, but he always find will 588 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: find himself on the team. He was always you know, 589 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: get deal, I could deal, I could deal. Jerk. There 590 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: is another guy like that. And I had two bets. 591 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you guys know will Andre and Sean and 592 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: I used to appreciate me every single day, you know, 593 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: being stall on your role, be sta on your road, 594 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: do this and that. And these guys, these these guys 595 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: is a decade in the league and All Star appearances 596 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 1: and uh championships, and they would appreciate me every single 597 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: day about how important it is to be a road 598 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 1: especially on the team. We had to go to state, 599 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: so I got that to legim in the league, so 600 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: I had an advantage over a lot of young guys 601 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, I think it's important. Man, if people 602 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: don't understand, like obviously everyone could, I think when you 603 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: really see dope, basketball is summertime basketball to pick up games, 604 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: because then you could really show, you know, what you 605 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: could do, you know what I mean. I would always 606 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: surprise people on what I can do in the summertime. 607 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: But I knew during the season, like we all, everyone 608 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: wants to be able to score thirty points, but that's 609 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: not your motherfucking role. Like your role is to do 610 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: you know. Obviously Jack was a good score, but I'm 611 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: speaking for myself, and you know you were a big 612 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: time score. I wasn't I could score, but I wasn't 613 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: like that was my thing. But I knew that I 614 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: had to find other positions. Could I score more? Yeah? 615 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: Could I did? I want to take more shots? Yeah? 616 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: But I knew what the fun my role was and 617 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: that's why I played until I didn't want to play 618 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: no more. You're right. I mean that's the that's the 619 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: catch twenty two. Because a lot of people see us 620 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: on TV. We might like it the minutes we want 621 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: you see. It's being a great teammate. People called me 622 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: a cheerleader all the time. I've been on great teams 623 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: and I'm sitting behind Hall of famers and I'm sitting 624 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: behind great players. But don't get this ship funked up. 625 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: Like I'm doing this ship my whole life. And guys 626 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: in the summer, you know, they think that you could 627 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: you know, they could funk with you, and they think 628 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: that you know, you're not as good as you think. 629 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: The politics only work. He went to demand he wanted 630 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: to do. That's the only reason why you leave ship 631 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: like that. I mean, that's ship cool. I gotta go 632 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: through that all the time, and it's fun. Man, I 633 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: love it. Who I'm challenge. I'm going from Jim and 634 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: Jim and in DC man, I'm trying to I'm trying 635 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: to see who whatever. I like your driving your passion, man, 636 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: and your focus because like I went through that same ship, 637 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: like you, you knew you was a pro. You didn't 638 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: take an overseas job. You knew you was ANRO. You 639 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: had a couple of ten days. Then you end up 640 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: with the Warriors. How did that happen? How did you 641 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: end up with the Warriors? Man? It's crazy. So you know, 642 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: I was going to my third year in the league, 643 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: and I, uh, I ended my last year the last 644 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: year I ended in New Orleans. Man, And you know, 645 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: I like the last maybe fifteen games, but I played well. Man, 646 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: And after the Seas was over there, Dace is like, 647 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: you know, y'all go home. I'm like, Man, I'm staying, Like, 648 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: I gotta no guarantee. I got two trigger days now, 649 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: I gotta get right for summer league. So I stayed 650 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: in New Orleans. I'm working out every single day. I 651 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: killed something league, Like, I destroyed some league. Then in 652 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: New Orleans signs Rondo Darre's Miller and they got a 653 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: cut me. So I'm still so uh. You know, I 654 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: end up getting a partial guaranteed with Atlanta. Man, So 655 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: I moved down to Atlanta. You know, I'm staying in 656 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: the hotel. I'm killing and pick up. I'm killing all 657 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: the workouts and stuff. Preseason comes, you know, they're like, man, 658 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: start to start looking for your your your your carib 659 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,959 Speaker 1: I'm like, hell, no, man, I haven't been cut too 660 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: many times. Like I'm gonna keep saying this. I'm gonna 661 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: keep saying this hotel and you know, I thought I 662 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: was good. Called my age. I'm like, man, they tell 663 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: me I'm good. Like am I good? My agent is 664 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: like yeah, straight, they love you, blah blah blah. So 665 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: preseason comes, I don't play at all, Like I played 666 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: one game against Miami other than I ain't playing at all. 667 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: Last day before my my contract is guaranteed for the year. 668 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: Trade goes down. The trade goes down, I get cut 669 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: and that's that's the night. Like I'll never forget. I 670 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: called my mom, I called KD and I called Nolan Smith. 671 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,239 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, like this, I think I gotta take 672 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: a year off. I don't know. I don't think emotionally 673 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: I can take this anymore man. And I remember Nolan 674 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: was like, man, just sleep on it, like your emotional 675 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: right now, sleep on it and call me in the morning. 676 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,239 Speaker 1: And I wroke up man By After getting cut by 677 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: the Hawks on Friday night, Saturday morning, Steve Kurent called 678 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: me like three or four times. And uh, you know, 679 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: literally like no disrespects to Atlanta, but that year they 680 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: were the worst HIM in league. So I went from 681 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: you know, getting cut to the worst HIM in league 682 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: to literally the next day, you know, the best seaming 683 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: league wanted me on their team. So it was it 684 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: was a true drink coming true for me. Blessing for sure. 685 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: So to be able to go you get there, Uh 686 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: you know, you're going to the G League, back to 687 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: the to the to the big boys, back and forth. 688 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: Walk us through that process because you're finally here, but 689 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: you're going back and forth. You said, I know you 690 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: had a great attitude because everyone speaks so well of you, 691 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: but what was your mindset to be, Like, Okay, I'm 692 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: killing in this G League and I'm gonna be ready 693 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: for whatever the words got for me. Walk us through 694 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: that process. I went down there with a new motivation, 695 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: and uh, you know Steve and and and Bobe Myers, 696 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: you know, they were just like, we're gonna treat you 697 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: know this two way. I was that was the first 698 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: year of the two way too, and nobody really knew 699 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: how it will work. And uh, Bob, Steve, like they 700 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: just told me, you know, we're gonna treat you as 701 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: as our third e G. So you know we're older, 702 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: Shawn the rest a lot, Andre might rest um you 703 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: know we we we, I just had I saw some opportunity. 704 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: So when I was in the G League, man like 705 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: I was killing, like I want to show bro, I 706 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: was not below down here like y'all need me up 707 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: there like straight up and uh but but but we 708 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: made that so crazy was Stephite went down. So when 709 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: when Steph goes down, you know, I getting started to 710 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: the starting line up just so Sean can keep so 711 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: Seawan can keep, you know, taking that second rotation, that 712 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: second unit. Right. So I go from like three three 713 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: or four games I was on the roster with the 714 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: Golden State, like I didn't play at all. I probably 715 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: got in two games out of out of the four 716 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: like ten seconds and maybe two minutes. And I went 717 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: from that to starting. But I was in the G 718 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: League going so crazy and working so hard. I was 719 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: just such in a rhythm, like I was just a rhythm. 720 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: So it was just it was just easy for me 721 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: to just go out there. And because you're playing, you 722 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: still playing with kvee, Clay and Draymond. So the ship 723 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:07,239 Speaker 1: Ain't that hard you go out there? Yeah? So yeah, man, 724 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: I was in rhythm and it was fun. And then 725 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 1: obviously later Steph got hurt for a longer period of time, 726 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: and you know, guys was hurt. Clay was out. I 727 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,720 Speaker 1: think Clay like broke broke his hand or something. Katie 728 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: had fractured ribs, and literally like I had to play 729 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 1: forty minutes and that's when I scared. Starts going thirty 730 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: and you know, I'm saying I started killing, and you know, 731 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 1: social media kind of took it on the thing about 732 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: Storm and guys got backing up to the rotation. So 733 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: it was a great year for me for sure. What 734 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,879 Speaker 1: did you learn most about playing with them? Dudes? Those 735 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: are arguably four Hall of famers you were able to 736 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: win the championship? What did you learn, uh most being 737 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 1: with the Warriors? For me, I love their demeanor, I 738 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: love their swagger. I love there they just have that 739 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: in factor, like they know that they you know, all 740 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: the baddest dudes on the plane, and they know that 741 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: when we go on each rod, everybody's gonna be against us. 742 00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: The these guys gonna take their best shot at us, 743 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: and and they won't. They will never beat us. They 744 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: will never They always felt like they would win every 745 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: every single game, how hard they worked. Obviously, it is 746 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: something you know that that that caught my mind. And 747 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: the attention to detail. Um, like man, you know, uh, 748 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: our fail sessions and practices were pretty light before the 749 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: playoffs playoffs come. You know, Steve we we in that 750 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: talk room for about hour hour and a half going 751 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: a different game, players and stuff like that. Just the 752 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: tension to detail. Everybody had, uh values to the team, 753 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: had a certain input they implemented, and you know, just 754 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,240 Speaker 1: for me be the young player man growing up watching 755 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: these guys, man, it was a dream come true. Was 756 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 1: honor just to be in our organization. That was kind 757 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 1: of my next question. So you get a chance to 758 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,439 Speaker 1: win with someone there was like your big brother growing 759 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 1: up in your neighborhood, looked out for you, and then 760 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 1: you're standing on a podium at the pinnacle of basketball. 761 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: What was that? What was that feeling? Like I that 762 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: that ship is crazy because like we used to literally 763 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: always talk about that, like, man, we're gonna we're gonna 764 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: win championships, like not not thinking we're gonna do it together, 765 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 1: but man, I wnna win one you're gonna win one 766 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: like sh and for us to do it together, man, 767 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,320 Speaker 1: and for it to be a second one. I remember 768 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 1: you guys beat up Cleveland and five years before that, man, 769 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: I was in New Orleans and I called Katie like 770 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 1: he was in the locker room just so hype. And 771 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: you know, my mom was My mom was with me. 772 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: She was crying. And it was when he when he 773 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: wanted chip and felt like I want to chip. It 774 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: felt like the whole the whole neighborhood and the whole 775 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 1: city want to chip. And then from the next year 776 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: for me to be right there with him and bro 777 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: like oh, the whole team, like like they showed me 778 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: more love than anybody. I don't know what it was like. 779 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: Everybody was coming to grand new ship because they knew, 780 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 1: they knew the past, they knew, you know how how 781 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 1: hard it is to me to get there. Man. It was, 782 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 1: it was, it was, it was, It was. It was great. Man. 783 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 1: I appreciate those guys for that for sure. Yeah, all 784 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: of us are here obviously brothers with Cobe, you were 785 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: a huge fan. You got to sweatshirt on today. Talk 786 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: to us about what the connection was. I know through 787 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: Coach k he was some when you mentioned and he 788 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 1: knew and you know, Coach k always made sure you 789 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 1: guys run in contact, you know, through college and you 790 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 1: got a chance to to get get a good chance 791 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: to to know code. Well, what was it like and 792 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: how are you dealing with it? Post? Yeah? I mean 793 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: growing up, you know, I'm too young, Like I saw 794 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, but I I don't really I didn't really 795 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: get to live and breathe and live in on a 796 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: day to day basis and see him on the night 797 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:35,479 Speaker 1: tonight and really appreciate what he did. Um Space James 798 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: my favorite movie, all that ship growing up. So I 799 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: love Michael Jordan's but he retired at ninet yate and 800 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: then she ninety nine, you know, two thousands. That's when 801 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: the Lakers kind of, you know, step into her own. 802 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 1: And my dad used to always be like man Kobe, 803 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: like he's Geordan, like he's the next Jordan, like he 804 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: does every day resembles no Michael Jordan to a t. 805 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: So when when when I when I realized there was 806 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: a new Jordan playing That was my guy, That was 807 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 1: my guy. And and you know, my dad was like 808 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: the biggest Lakers fan ever. So you know he was 809 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,879 Speaker 1: an easy eye on the half of me. And then 810 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: you know, I got to see two thousand and two 811 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,720 Speaker 1: dollars once two day win a championship, So obviously, like everything, 812 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: everything is perfect for me as a basketball guy. And 813 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,879 Speaker 1: then you grow up, you see you know how hard 814 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: he works. You see you know how hard he uh 815 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: you know uh trains his mind and and just you 816 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: start to listen to his interviews and you just see 817 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: the respect that everybody has, you know for him. You 818 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: just start appreciating the war and that was my guy. 819 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: But I wanted to be just like him. I want 820 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 1: to do everything like him. And the growing up um 821 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: coming into my home. I got to meet him for 822 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: the first time, and Coach K new him, and Coach 823 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 1: K will always make sure, like if he came to 824 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: a game, I would get the first five minutes with him, 825 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,959 Speaker 1: and if he sent the text after a game, Coach 826 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: K always bring me back on the plane and showed 827 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: me the text that Kobe sin and he knew how 828 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 1: much you know, I loved him, and uh, I got 829 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: to meet him, got the form relationship with him, and 830 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: you guys on he was he was so so cool man. 831 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: He's past a couple of years him after basketball. He 832 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: was just so fun. He's always smiling office with his family. Man, 833 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 1: and just tragic, tragic, tragic thing. And I think we're 834 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 1: still you know, all trying to you know, make it 835 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: makes sense. It never makes sense, but we got to 836 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: just keep us keeps going. Never you did something to 837 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: touch me because I was out there work at ESPN, 838 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,720 Speaker 1: so I saw it with the memorial was like across 839 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 1: the street from Stable Center. You guys, flew back in town. 840 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,800 Speaker 1: You wouldn't grab your jersey and you wouldn't join the 841 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 1: crowd out there. Talk to us about that. Yeah, I 842 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 1: think we all, I think we always just in't shocked. 843 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 1: I mean we all obviously us learned on the plane 844 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 1: we drive. We flying from Philly, um and we all 845 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: found it about it on a plane, man, I mean 846 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: I was the longest ride ever. Guys was sucked up, man, 847 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: and uh we landed. Uh My friend Jack Davis, who 848 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 1: with the Duke where he lives in l A. You know, 849 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 1: he's one of the biggest Kobe fans ever too. You know, 850 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: he he linked up with me at uh at our 851 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 1: prox facility. Man just just kind of like consoled me 852 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 1: because I was crushed, and he showed me that they 853 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: were doing the memorial. They had fans at you know, 854 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 1: the Staples Center, and growing up, when I thought of 855 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: the Staple Cent, I thought of Kobe because that's the 856 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: building I grew up watching him playing, and he he 857 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: gave the Lakers, you know, twenty years of just you know, 858 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: just straight, just straight man, pure basketball, just greatness. Man. 859 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: And I just wanted to be out there just to 860 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 1: just to be with the fans and and and and 861 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 1: show my respects to his family and himself. And um, 862 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,720 Speaker 1: the fans were cool. They let me be. They weren't, 863 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: you know, over buried because everybody was grieving man. And 864 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,919 Speaker 1: I thought it was something I needed needed to do, Manuh, 865 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: it was. It was something I'll never forget. It's saddening 866 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 1: even to talk about, you know what I mean. In 867 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: this wor which we have to talk. We always try 868 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: to talk about him in a good lighting and and remembering, 869 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: but it's still just some days that just hit you 870 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: in the face, like Kobe's gone, like the ship don't 871 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 1: like if Kobe is not supposed to be gone, you know, 872 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 1: I mean, like if anyone was not supposed to be 873 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 1: gone as him so it's it's still just punches you 874 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 1: unit the stomach every once a while, like God, damn, 875 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 1: this ship is real for real, crazy, right right? Sure 876 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,240 Speaker 1: you said that the best advice you got was from Kobe. 877 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,280 Speaker 1: If you if you don't mind, would you like shanders 878 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 1: and tell us what he told you? Yeah? All you 879 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 1: are you all you can keep it because I know 880 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: because I know some things that he told us when 881 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,879 Speaker 1: we did our last interview with him that I hold 882 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 1: type that I haven't shared. But it's up to you. Yeah, 883 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 1: I mean not for sure. Man. I think my last 884 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 1: my last moment with him is my favorite, not knowing 885 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: that it was my last, but at that time, like 886 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,280 Speaker 1: that that that was my favorite moment. In Game five 887 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 1: of the of the Western Commence Finals, it was too 888 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: too it was us versus Rockets. Obviously, Um and uh, 889 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:47,759 Speaker 1: I had been out with the rotation in first four 890 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,320 Speaker 1: games and Steve put me back in the rotation and 891 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 1: just a little adjustment. Um, get some more shooting out there, 892 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: and uh, you know it's I think we're dan one 893 00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 1: about minute left, fifty seconds left. I'm guarding Chris Paul. 894 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,280 Speaker 1: I get a stop from Chris Paul. Draymond gets the rebound, 895 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 1: he brings it down. He he finds me on the break, 896 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 1: like I had several points at the time. I was 897 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 1: like over too and I'm wild open man, and I 898 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 1: bowed the ball and I shoot it miss. They come down. 899 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,319 Speaker 1: We end up losing the game, and you know how 900 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 1: it is now social media is killing me. Uh We're 901 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 1: down three two, and that's my first year Awards. I'm like, 902 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 1: day my first year. We're about to go down, and 903 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 1: I just remember, you know, after the game, you know, 904 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 1: Steph and Katie, like they called me that I was talking. 905 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:35,759 Speaker 1: I went to Katie's room. He was up all night 906 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 1: just talking talking to Justin, talking about the game, what 907 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 1: we need to do. And I was just feeling just 908 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 1: so damn man. And I told myself, Man, it's gonna 909 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,839 Speaker 1: be my Kobe moment, like I remember him every gone 910 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: three shots gives you talk, you know, in this first 911 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 1: big playoff experience, And I said, I kept telling myself, 912 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,399 Speaker 1: kept telling myself, kept telling myself. Fast forward a year later, 913 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 1: we're in the finals. You know, I hit it. I 914 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 1: get the same shot at the same spot, you know, 915 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 1: gets the raptors and if those and I hit him 916 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 1: and from literally three three three threes in a row, 917 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,880 Speaker 1: you know the win game too, And uh, you know, 918 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 1: in my head, I'm like, damn, like that's that's my moment. 919 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 1: Like I remember I missed last year, but I had to. 920 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 1: I had enough nuts to take the next shot and 921 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 1: I had enough nuts to to to believe it myself, 922 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,319 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I made the shot. And then 923 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 1: I said cold this summer and he's like, man, I 924 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 1: didn't tell like I hadn't told him, like that was 925 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 1: my mama bone. But like he he's what came to 926 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: my mom when I missed the shots. And when I 927 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 1: made the shots, he just came up to me. He 928 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 1: was like, man, that was your moment. You got big 929 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 1: coronas like you missed it here before that. Y'all know, 930 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 1: y'all know him, you missed here before that. And the 931 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 1: next year he took the shame shot and you guys, 932 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 1: you want the bombs game and and he said he 933 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 1: was proud of me, man, And you know that meant 934 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 1: the world to me. I called my mom Rath the 935 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 1: man cold just he you know what I'm saying, just 936 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: just me being a fans, also being a friend. Man. 937 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 1: That meant the world to me. And I hold that 938 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: dear to my heart for short. That's amazing. I love 939 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 1: hearing that you similar to me. Grew up a Lakers fan. 940 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 1: My ship was crazy too, from almost fighting Kobe to 941 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 1: have him called me to come and play with him. 942 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 1: What was it like finally putting on that Laker jersey? 943 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 1: Tell me with that because that she gives me chills 944 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 1: even talking about it. What was it like when you go, 945 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,879 Speaker 1: you got to put that jersey on for the first 946 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 1: sign It was so man, it was a drink on 947 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 1: true when I signed. When I signed with the Lakers, 948 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 1: that was like my draft day. When I got off 949 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 1: the phone with Rob because I didn't get drafted obviously, 950 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 1: so um, that was my draft that you you you 951 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 1: you get off the phone with uh, you know you're 952 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 1: the GM. He tells you that we're signing you to 953 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,720 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. You know you're officially a Los Angeles 954 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,839 Speaker 1: Laker boom. That was my draft day. I called my mom, 955 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 1: called my sister. My sister was driving. I made her 956 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 1: pull over, you know, my girls with me, and we 957 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 1: celebrated like I just got drafted man, and get into 958 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,400 Speaker 1: l a putting on that jersey for the first time. 959 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 1: I started thinking about my dad because you know, me 960 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,319 Speaker 1: and him were the biggest Laker fans and and PG. 961 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 1: You know, everything was Lakers, you know, uh anybody who 962 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 1: knew it. And we always had Lakers gear on every 963 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,799 Speaker 1: single day. So you know, I was playing for him 964 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,319 Speaker 1: this year. Man, I was. This was just big his big, 965 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,720 Speaker 1: big dream to see his son obviously in the NBA, 966 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 1: but to to to to play for my Dada's favorite team. Man, 967 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,360 Speaker 1: it was different. Man was drink. I'm true, man surreal. 968 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if you ever sit back because you're 969 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 1: in the process, but you will one day when you 970 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 1: get old, like me and Jack. But you've been although 971 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 1: the journey has been rough, you've been in two amazing 972 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 1: situations to really start your career off, getting a chance 973 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 1: to play with a dynasty in Golden State and picking 974 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,839 Speaker 1: the brains of k D Staff Draymond Clay coach Kerr. 975 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 1: Now you're in l A with a whole bunch of 976 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 1: other veterans. You you had a tweet that said, man, 977 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 1: I get to learn from j Kid and rondo'brin every day. 978 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 1: You know, to point guards dream. You've been in very 979 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 1: fortunate situations, not only to you know, be on the 980 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 1: biggest stage playing basketball, but just to soak the game 981 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 1: up from some of the greats. What has that been 982 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,440 Speaker 1: like for you. I think that's been the best and 983 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,239 Speaker 1: coolest part for me, being being obsessed with the game 984 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 1: and me being a fan of the game, and me 985 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 1: you wanted to get better and learn more. There's no 986 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,440 Speaker 1: better you know, opportunities that I could have had. And 987 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,320 Speaker 1: I always, you know, just feel blessed and lucky because 988 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 1: the basketball guys are always rewarding. You know, I had 989 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 1: to go through through through hell. I had to go 990 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,279 Speaker 1: through this and that to get to where I am. Man, 991 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,319 Speaker 1: It's no other way I can fathom it. And now 992 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,319 Speaker 1: I just always like to appreciate the ship that I'm in, man, 993 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 1: and um like like and like you say, like, I know, 994 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 1: when I was in high school, when I was at dude, 995 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,320 Speaker 1: I was always thinking about what's next. And now you 996 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,400 Speaker 1: alway kind of get stuck in the moment. But I 997 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,919 Speaker 1: kind of take time. I always kind of take time 998 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 1: to just reflect and just remember how thankful I am, man, 999 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 1: because I know it sounds clear shape, but going going 1000 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:58,760 Speaker 1: from you know, where I came from, I wasn't supposed 1001 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,080 Speaker 1: to be there So for me to play for the 1002 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 1: fucking Warriors to win a championship and then coming to 1003 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 1: the Lakers, l A's backrocking, and you know, I get 1004 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: to learn from Bron Rondo, Avery, Bradley, fucking Dwight Howard's 1005 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 1: on the team. Just uh, you know, me and A 1006 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,239 Speaker 1: d grew up playing against each other, and you and 1007 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 1: teammates and USA me dawns of Americans together. He's my 1008 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 1: class casey be like the Marcus is here. I mean, 1009 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 1: it's it's just the best mixture of basketball all in 1010 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,719 Speaker 1: one locker room. Man. And I always take take time 1011 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 1: and just realize how lucky I am. And I don't 1012 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 1: take another for Brandon. So I try to learn and 1013 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,880 Speaker 1: I try to work as much as possible. Yeah, Bron 1014 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 1: is in your seventeam Bro, And you know we talked about, 1015 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,239 Speaker 1: like I said this on my on my page is 1016 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 1: one goat, one mom, but one king and they only 1017 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,319 Speaker 1: once on my rushmore. He's in your seventeen learning from 1018 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 1: him and see what he's doing in year seventeen, Man, 1019 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 1: talk to explain that to me. What you're seeing like 1020 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 1: this is greatness, It's amazing, it's it's it's it's really ridiculous, 1021 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 1: like have to play with him while I want to 1022 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,439 Speaker 1: training camp with with them in Cleveland. He was my event. 1023 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,760 Speaker 1: I was just rooking. So, uh, you know, I'll never forget. 1024 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 1: Um I was. I was living with Kyrie at the time. 1025 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,760 Speaker 1: I was Kyrie and wanted me really staying at the hotel. 1026 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 1: He kind of want to be the head at home Field. 1027 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,800 Speaker 1: I was staying the Kyrie. I had a car, he 1028 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 1: gave me his whip, everything. So I'm the first day 1029 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:24,279 Speaker 1: of training camp. Man, they were just fresh off the finals. Um, 1030 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 1: I drove. I drove to the pounds facility. You know, 1031 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 1: I wanted to be the first one in there. And 1032 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,760 Speaker 1: I get there, I changed, uh, go to the breakfast 1033 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,440 Speaker 1: Lanunge or wherever, and I'm starting to heat breakfast and 1034 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,720 Speaker 1: all I hear is just like grunting. I hear grunt 1035 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,360 Speaker 1: and I hear it. You know, you can hear somebody 1036 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,760 Speaker 1: doing something. And it's about two hours before practice. Literally 1037 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 1: Brown was in there lifting, So maybe he said the 1038 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 1: time for the first day, let me come back from borrow. 1039 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:55,479 Speaker 1: Let's see. I get there, Brons on the court, Brown 1040 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,319 Speaker 1: shooting and I'm just like, damn, like this is from 1041 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,959 Speaker 1: year twelve for him at that time and uh five 1042 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 1: MVPs in two rings at the time, like he already 1043 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:08,279 Speaker 1: had like man like that that that mindset, like he 1044 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,840 Speaker 1: still have more work to do. So for me fast 1045 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,279 Speaker 1: for or five years, he's doing the same ship. He's 1046 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,279 Speaker 1: doing the same stuff. He's the first one in gym Um. 1047 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 1: You know he's a tremendous leader. His basketball all that 1048 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 1: ship speaks for us SOLF. But the camaraderie that he 1049 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,799 Speaker 1: he creates around the league and around on team. Man, 1050 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,440 Speaker 1: he has a relationship with everybody. He's amazing, bro, Like 1051 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:33,360 Speaker 1: he's amazing. He's doing doing ship a year seventeen that 1052 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,080 Speaker 1: guys don't do and in the year eight and their 1053 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 1: prim you're not in their prom. So it's just amazing 1054 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,040 Speaker 1: to watch him on a nightly basis. For sure. I 1055 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,440 Speaker 1: could tell, you know, I know other people could tell 1056 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 1: they played. Y'all really funk with each other and have fun. 1057 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,880 Speaker 1: Like I see, the bench is always into it. Everyone 1058 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 1: is cheering for everyone. Tell me what that locker room 1059 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 1: is like, because locker rooms are blast and that's where 1060 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 1: you really get your camaraderie your ship talking like is 1061 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,480 Speaker 1: everybody fair game? But every abody get it. Who's the joker? 1062 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,279 Speaker 1: Who sensitive talk to us a little bit about that? No, 1063 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you guys know what I mean. I think 1064 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 1: for me, the most fun is like the bus ride, 1065 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,680 Speaker 1: playing ride the joker, the practice in the locker room. 1066 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the ship that, you know. My favorite 1067 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 1: thing in the NBA is I love getting those stories 1068 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,640 Speaker 1: from the vets. I love hearing those stories that never 1069 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,800 Speaker 1: made the media and never made public or real stories 1070 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,920 Speaker 1: that did. That's my stories, crazy, y'all know what I mean. 1071 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,960 Speaker 1: That's my favorite. That's my favorite. I think our team now, man, 1072 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,239 Speaker 1: I think we're all like this jokes as we all. 1073 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 1: You know, if you walk in with a bad outfit, 1074 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 1: everybody gonna let you go. You walk in with some 1075 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:44,680 Speaker 1: bullsh everybody from Avery brand, every Avery Avery, he gonna 1076 00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 1: kill you. He If Danny Green Cools walks in, Jared 1077 00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,239 Speaker 1: Dully walking with something crazy, every gonna kill you. Bron 1078 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,120 Speaker 1: gonna kill you. Everybody kills each other man. It's fun. 1079 00:50:55,520 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 1: Nobody's off limits, Everybody gets joked on up, nobody's nobody sensitive. 1080 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 1: It's fun. I love it because that's what people would 1081 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,239 Speaker 1: ask me. Like, I got to play with some great 1082 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,919 Speaker 1: players because I'm the one that's the ship talker jack 1083 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:16,160 Speaker 1: like that. But I'm like, I'm talking, I'm talking, So 1084 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,200 Speaker 1: I just talked because I'm fun. I like, like I 1085 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,359 Speaker 1: really think it's important. Like and then when I play, 1086 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,480 Speaker 1: you know, on balls to the wall for anybody and everybody, 1087 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,319 Speaker 1: I'll kill for you on the court, but off the court, 1088 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,640 Speaker 1: I'm the team joker. So everyone, you know, did you 1089 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,240 Speaker 1: talk to Code? Did you do? Like, I'm talking to everybody, 1090 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:32,880 Speaker 1: and that's what I'm saying. Like, those are the teams 1091 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,319 Speaker 1: where you can talk ship to Steph. You could talk 1092 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:36,960 Speaker 1: ship to Claire, you can talk to it to Katie, 1093 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,680 Speaker 1: you can talk it to Kobe, you could talk ship 1094 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,319 Speaker 1: to Brun. Those are like the best kind of locker 1095 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 1: rooms because that's when you're just with your brothers, because 1096 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,520 Speaker 1: we're together so much like those loose times on the plane, 1097 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,800 Speaker 1: the bus, hearing the stories, gambling, you know, in the 1098 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,920 Speaker 1: locker room like them ship to the best part. I mean, 1099 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,480 Speaker 1: obviously basketball is the blast, but those are the ship 1100 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,200 Speaker 1: Like you think back, like, do you do miss I 1101 00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 1: don't miss playing. I missed just having fun with my 1102 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,640 Speaker 1: whole boys and talking shit. Yeah, I mean that's I mean, 1103 00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,279 Speaker 1: I always heard no guys who were out the league, 1104 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:11,080 Speaker 1: Um you know who retired, who were who were doing 1105 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,439 Speaker 1: other things. They're like, man, I mean playing was cool. 1106 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,759 Speaker 1: I mean we all love to play. But that camaraderie, 1107 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,879 Speaker 1: that togetherness, that filling a part of the team, Um, 1108 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,520 Speaker 1: you know, that's something that guy's always mentioned they missed. 1109 00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,560 Speaker 1: So for me, you know, I always like to take 1110 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,040 Speaker 1: advantage of it for sure. What's your best moment up 1111 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:32,400 Speaker 1: to this point in the NBA? My best moment up 1112 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:36,239 Speaker 1: to this point in the NBA is no, Uh, I'll 1113 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,080 Speaker 1: say my last two years with the Warriors, actually playing 1114 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 1: and contributing in the playoffs. I think that's the big 1115 00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 1: stage of basketball. Everybody's watching the license on the license 1116 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,960 Speaker 1: right us. There is no fucking loads of management. It's 1117 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,239 Speaker 1: no you know, we bat your backs. It's no back 1118 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,759 Speaker 1: to back. So guys ain't resting, guys, can you know, 1119 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,000 Speaker 1: there's no excuses. Everybody has time to prepare. You know, 1120 00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:01,040 Speaker 1: all records are are a race and the lights are 1121 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,239 Speaker 1: the brightest at that time. So for me to have 1122 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,200 Speaker 1: some a lot of big games and the playoffs and 1123 00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 1: um some big games in the finals, I think that's 1124 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,080 Speaker 1: my that's my biggest couple of moments in the league, 1125 00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,359 Speaker 1: and I'll take the most proud in. But that's dope. 1126 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 1: What's your all time starting five? My all time started five? Man. 1127 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 1: I always tell my homeboys this. I like my five. 1128 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,800 Speaker 1: I like I like Broad at the one. I like 1129 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:34,239 Speaker 1: Cold at the two. I like George at the two, 1130 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,520 Speaker 1: I like Cold at the three, I like Katie at 1131 00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,040 Speaker 1: the four. And I like Shack at the five. Sounds 1132 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,360 Speaker 1: like my line up. That was his line that was 1133 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,040 Speaker 1: that was his line up. I just had him Duncan 1134 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,200 Speaker 1: at the fourth. Yeah, I mean, you know, bring minds 1135 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:53,920 Speaker 1: thinking like man, you know, you could put Brown anywhere, 1136 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:55,440 Speaker 1: but you could play that point. You could play the 1137 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,520 Speaker 1: power for you can around and put Brown and center 1138 00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,239 Speaker 1: at this point, you know what I mean, Because it 1139 00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:00,839 Speaker 1: might be tough to guard, but there ain't no way 1140 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,239 Speaker 1: the sender's gonna be able to guard him on the 1141 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:07,520 Speaker 1: other end. Not back then. Back then We're gonna imagine 1142 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:11,000 Speaker 1: Shack trying to guard Bron. I mean, obviously Bron, Bron 1143 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,279 Speaker 1: can't guard Shack, but I'm saying, like we go, he 1144 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:17,960 Speaker 1: will run shocks astumping down that court. His motherfucking lips 1145 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,520 Speaker 1: would be looking like yours tongue stuck to the roof 1146 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:33,879 Speaker 1: of his mouth. Ship would be over shat is big 1147 00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:40,320 Speaker 1: and said, Hey, so your favorite movie growing up in 1148 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,400 Speaker 1: Space Jam? Mike, you got the you got Lebron in 1149 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:48,600 Speaker 1: Space Jam too. Any any inside info anything you stole 1150 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,400 Speaker 1: or any kind of info you got for us on 1151 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,719 Speaker 1: the Space Jam. You know, it's crazy. So when I 1152 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,840 Speaker 1: signed at l A, I signed to the Liquors and 1153 00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,520 Speaker 1: I came out here early looking for a spot not 1154 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,719 Speaker 1: linked with him. He worked out and uh him and 1155 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,759 Speaker 1: Randy invited me up to the set. Um me, me, 1156 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,920 Speaker 1: me and my cousin. So we went up there to 1157 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:09,560 Speaker 1: the set and I spent the whole day with him, 1158 00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,560 Speaker 1: and I managed in the theater. So it was cool 1159 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,400 Speaker 1: for me to like, actually, that's my first time actually 1160 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:18,240 Speaker 1: being on the movie set. And literally Bron like worked 1161 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:22,400 Speaker 1: down on the morning shower, a breakfast, and he was 1162 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,800 Speaker 1: at the set on day acting. He would be on 1163 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,759 Speaker 1: ten minutes take, a five minute breaking go again, take 1164 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:34,000 Speaker 1: after take after take, and he's like, y'all know, Bron 1165 00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,200 Speaker 1: He's like has a handshake with the camera crew and 1166 00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:43,760 Speaker 1: then everybody and every every every actor he's messing around 1167 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:45,960 Speaker 1: with and he'd come over to us and you know, 1168 00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,400 Speaker 1: talk ship, we're talking. Who's we're talking? You know? And 1169 00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:53,160 Speaker 1: you I remember that day Bronnie, Brannie and Brownie's team 1170 00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,520 Speaker 1: and U team never in Vegas. So a little bit 1171 00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:57,600 Speaker 1: during his lunch break, he was watching the game, man, 1172 00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,680 Speaker 1: and you know, back to back to acting. And the 1173 00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,960 Speaker 1: next day she will back up in the morning working out, 1174 00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,040 Speaker 1: and he did the same thing over again. Man, and 1175 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,879 Speaker 1: Space Jan was crazy. It's gonna be cool, man. I'm 1176 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,839 Speaker 1: I'm excited, man, because they put a lot of time 1177 00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,120 Speaker 1: and effort into that ship. You know who the monstar 1178 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,480 Speaker 1: is gonna be? I don't, I don't. I don't. I 1179 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,800 Speaker 1: know a D. A D might be one. I'm not 1180 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,920 Speaker 1: sure though, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. But they 1181 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,879 Speaker 1: they did a lot of stuff, some creative stuff, man, 1182 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,520 Speaker 1: and I still didn't really understand. And too they started 1183 00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,719 Speaker 1: to bring it down to me. Man, when they make 1184 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,840 Speaker 1: it all come to life, when they do yeah stuff 1185 00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:35,960 Speaker 1: and you know a lot of stuff that So it's 1186 00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,560 Speaker 1: gonna be crazy. But I can't wait. It's gonna be crazy. 1187 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:40,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know when Space Jam one was 1188 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,680 Speaker 1: our space show. I don't want to miss speak years 1189 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,839 Speaker 1: ago to think how far technology has come since then, 1190 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:52,279 Speaker 1: Like this is gonna insane, is gonna be insane, and 1191 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:56,319 Speaker 1: people as the stars it should have happenn used the monstars. 1192 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,960 Speaker 1: You look like a monster. But people was asking me, 1193 00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,920 Speaker 1: I remember when when when when this was first announced, 1194 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,160 Speaker 1: people are asking like, well, this movie be big as 1195 00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,200 Speaker 1: big as Mike. This movie, to me is gonna be 1196 00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,080 Speaker 1: way bigger because it's a different atmosphere, a different time, 1197 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,000 Speaker 1: and the special effects are going to be at another level. 1198 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,480 Speaker 1: I can't wait. Man, It's gonna be crazy, all right. Normally, 1199 00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,840 Speaker 1: when we asked this question, when you before you ask it, whoever, 1200 00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,000 Speaker 1: you say, if you have a connect on this person, 1201 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:27,920 Speaker 1: then you have to hook us up. You gotta make 1202 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:29,840 Speaker 1: it happen. So who should be a guest on our show? 1203 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:31,439 Speaker 1: Who do you think should be a guest on our show? 1204 00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:39,160 Speaker 1: Your teammate that you were just talking about, what's going on? 1205 00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:47,440 Speaker 1: I think I think y'all should get a d D. Yeah, 1206 00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 1: we've been talking to a D about getting up. Yeah, 1207 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:50,920 Speaker 1: we're supposed to get him right before we went into 1208 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,919 Speaker 1: Lockdown two. When you think of a D like people 1209 00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:58,360 Speaker 1: don't think mis understood that he went through his whole life, 1210 00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:02,760 Speaker 1: bro and and you and you know, just just just 1211 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,160 Speaker 1: just just going to I mean, he was he was 1212 00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 1: unknown to being the number one player in the country, 1213 00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,160 Speaker 1: like overnight, you know, he was the national Player of 1214 00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,040 Speaker 1: the year, won the championship first pick. And he's like 1215 00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,800 Speaker 1: he went from not being known to all this all 1216 00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,880 Speaker 1: this stuff and going through the New Orleans and he 1217 00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,200 Speaker 1: got to play on the Olympic team in twenty twelve 1218 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,320 Speaker 1: and being an All Star injuries after how he got 1219 00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 1: treated in New Orleans last year, just injuries. You know, 1220 00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,920 Speaker 1: people saying like he never you know, won a playoff 1221 00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,000 Speaker 1: game whatever till he played us a couple of years ago. 1222 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,080 Speaker 1: Just I mean, he's been through a lot, man. And 1223 00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,920 Speaker 1: when he gave to his teammates, to the game, to 1224 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:44,440 Speaker 1: the organization, man, I think it is isn't appreciated publicly enough. Man. 1225 00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 1: I think he's one of the you know, the best 1226 00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:49,960 Speaker 1: players that to play. So I think, you know, he 1227 00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,200 Speaker 1: should come on here and talk his ship man, because 1228 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,360 Speaker 1: because he because he needs to start talking and ship 1229 00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,680 Speaker 1: more man, because he's a bad d. He's a healpable 1230 00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,480 Speaker 1: player though, and you don't hear him talking too much, 1231 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,720 Speaker 1: like you don't ever really hear I don't recall seeing 1232 00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:05,920 Speaker 1: no one any like you don't hear him, you know 1233 00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,000 Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, that's the player you right, it 1234 00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,360 Speaker 1: is here, come on this show and talking shop. I 1235 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,280 Speaker 1: was already talking too. We don't get him on, but 1236 00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:14,800 Speaker 1: he needs to start talking to ship. That's a bad 1237 00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,240 Speaker 1: motherfucker right there. Man. For real, any movies or shows 1238 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,840 Speaker 1: you're beinge watching or on repeat right now? You always 1239 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:24,120 Speaker 1: watched The Wire um once every year. So when all 1240 00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,840 Speaker 1: this ship started, I rewatched that. I rewatched Curb Your Enthusiasm. 1241 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,680 Speaker 1: Me and my girl we're watching for life right now, 1242 00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,880 Speaker 1: that fifty cents show. That's really it, man, That's that's 1243 00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,000 Speaker 1: really it. Man. I'm playing. I'm playing so many video 1244 00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,160 Speaker 1: games I'm playing. I'm playing way too. Who was your 1245 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:47,680 Speaker 1: funniest teammate? I mean it was Baron Davis Disney Man, 1246 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:52,360 Speaker 1: he's a character. He's character. The markets is funny as hell, 1247 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:59,160 Speaker 1: Rondo's funny, Dudley's that's hilarious. Dollar Andre is funny as hell. 1248 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Clay is funny in his own way. Yeah, Clay is 1249 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,360 Speaker 1: that you want to know? Clay is funny, He's just 1250 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,919 Speaker 1: Clay is funny in his way. That's funny. You said that. Yeah, 1251 01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:11,360 Speaker 1: you don't even have to say much to be funny. 1252 01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:17,760 Speaker 1: This is hope to meet their posture. Man, he's a 1253 01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,120 Speaker 1: he's a he's a different dude. Man, I love Clay. 1254 01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:26,960 Speaker 1: A historical dinner with anybody, just a dope conversation, a 1255 01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:30,480 Speaker 1: dope night, just kicking back. Any five people, not counting yourself. 1256 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:38,000 Speaker 1: Who would be at your table? Michael, Jordan's um, Kobe Bryant, 1257 01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:49,720 Speaker 1: Malcolm X, lor Wayne for last one, jay Z jay Z. 1258 01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,360 Speaker 1: That would be a hand of a dinner board. I'd 1259 01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:57,280 Speaker 1: be a hand of a dinner Kobe, Mike, Wayne, Jay 1260 01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:09,320 Speaker 1: and Malcolm X. Y'all gonna fox him up that night. Hey, artists, 1261 01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,440 Speaker 1: artists are song gonna repeat? Are you jamming? I know 1262 01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,400 Speaker 1: you're jamming? A little baby man, man, A little my 1263 01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:17,680 Speaker 1: My my brother man, My brother is dirty. One of 1264 01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,320 Speaker 1: my best friends. We both living a man. I'm with him. 1265 01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,520 Speaker 1: If I'm not working out, I'm with him. Studio, video games, 1266 01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,600 Speaker 1: all that ship. So I listened to Dirk all day, 1267 01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:30,680 Speaker 1: gonna one of my one of my guys, the dough 1268 01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:34,920 Speaker 1: boy baby going crazy. Obviously, Shot Lizzie. I grew up 1269 01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,880 Speaker 1: with Shot Lizzie. One of my close friends and a 1270 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,160 Speaker 1: lot mans. It's a Kodak Black, one of my favorite rappers. 1271 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:47,080 Speaker 1: So free code that dirty right now. Yeah, man doing 1272 01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:51,400 Speaker 1: dirty in the pen right now. Man, Ship Ship Ship 1273 01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:55,160 Speaker 1: crazy bron. I'll hope you stand strong and I'm praying 1274 01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,680 Speaker 1: for his family for sure. So, like we said earlier, 1275 01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,880 Speaker 1: you had a similar journey. It was in you know, 1276 01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,760 Speaker 1: sweet to begin with, after everything you've been through up 1277 01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,720 Speaker 1: to this point, although you're just starting, what kind of 1278 01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,280 Speaker 1: encouraging words would you have for someone trying to follow 1279 01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,360 Speaker 1: in your footsteps and keep going? I mean obviously cliche, 1280 01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:15,320 Speaker 1: keep going, Um, stay positive, all the cliche stuff. But 1281 01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:19,720 Speaker 1: for me, man, like you get caught up in you know, followers, 1282 01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:21,800 Speaker 1: you can get caught up in money. You can get 1283 01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:25,480 Speaker 1: caught up in how long. And you know, guys used 1284 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,320 Speaker 1: to I used to look at guys like man, he 1285 01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,800 Speaker 1: was he was only in college for two years. Um, 1286 01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,320 Speaker 1: he ain't become a start to the third end of league. 1287 01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,240 Speaker 1: Stuff like that, Man, And just just run your on race, 1288 01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:37,040 Speaker 1: keep going, a lot of people gonna tell you ship 1289 01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,400 Speaker 1: that you know that it's really hating Man. For me, 1290 01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,600 Speaker 1: I ain't the tallest, like the fastest, I ain't the strongest. 1291 01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,959 Speaker 1: So now I have a shot coming up. People ain't 1292 01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:48,919 Speaker 1: giving me a shot like people. You know what I'm saying. 1293 01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,520 Speaker 1: I was too small, too slow, ship like that. But 1294 01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,360 Speaker 1: I I ain't really care about all that ship man. People. 1295 01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:55,920 Speaker 1: When I got out of the court, they're about to 1296 01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,080 Speaker 1: see me, and I was gonna see about them. So 1297 01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,920 Speaker 1: my thing is run your on race man, and that's it. 1298 01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:02,640 Speaker 1: I love that I could tell, like I said, I 1299 01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:04,160 Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to really get to know you. 1300 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,240 Speaker 1: We have mutual friends and teammates and everybody respects you, man, 1301 01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:08,760 Speaker 1: So it was it was an honor to get down 1302 01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:10,720 Speaker 1: to get to know you a little bit better. We're 1303 01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,680 Speaker 1: gonna exchange information to get down and with a little bro. 1304 01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:17,240 Speaker 1: But thank you man for your time today. We appreciate 1305 01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,760 Speaker 1: your time. Good luck, God bless you with your family 1306 01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,840 Speaker 1: and ship man. If you guys get back in, go 1307 01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:24,920 Speaker 1: get that championship. I just want to say thank you' 1308 01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:26,919 Speaker 1: all what y'all doing for the coach and what y'all 1309 01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,320 Speaker 1: doing as as as as people who has been in 1310 01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,760 Speaker 1: the league as one league, as as been successful in 1311 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,600 Speaker 1: the league, and you know y'all didn't y'all own way man, 1312 01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,120 Speaker 1: and what y'are doing, you know, for the culture, not 1313 01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,840 Speaker 1: just basketball, but but before US African Americans growing up. 1314 01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:45,800 Speaker 1: Y'all talk about every every situation going on a positive ship. 1315 01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,640 Speaker 1: That the ship that needs to be saying, y'all don't 1316 01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,000 Speaker 1: hold back on nothing, man, and that ship means a 1317 01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:54,200 Speaker 1: lot to to myself and my peers and everybody. Man. 1318 01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,120 Speaker 1: So I appreciate what y'all doing because I want to 1319 01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,040 Speaker 1: be like y'all, want to make a lot of fucking 1320 01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:02,640 Speaker 1: money with some chips and play the key back and 1321 01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,120 Speaker 1: have my own my own ship after doing my way 1322 01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:08,200 Speaker 1: after he SPN TV all that, man, I appreciate you all, man, 1323 01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:12,720 Speaker 1: no doubt. Man, we appreciate that. Thank you sir. Thanks Bro, 1324 01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:16,120 Speaker 1: Appreciate you bro. Hey, that's a wrap. Thank our guests today, Quinn. 1325 01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,600 Speaker 1: We appreciate you, bro, and make sure you guys check 1326 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:22,840 Speaker 1: out the new documentary Basketball County in the Water, executive 1327 01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,720 Speaker 1: produced by Quinn Cook, Victor ohlt Depo, and Kevin Durant 1328 01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,360 Speaker 1: right now on Showtime. You can find this on Showtime 1329 01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:45,640 Speaker 1: Basketball YouTube or all platforms streaming podcast. It's something about 1330 01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:51,960 Speaker 1: how this place forms a different kind of person on 1331 01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,360 Speaker 1: my high school team we have five guys make the NBA. 1332 01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:05,440 Speaker 1: We had the County Rock. Now you mentioned Prince Shorts County. 1333 01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,960 Speaker 1: People know it's about it's a meta of basketball. There 1334 01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,880 Speaker 1: are those who come before us, upon whose shoulders we stand. 1335 01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:15,360 Speaker 1: We're here from this area. You have to have tough scares. 1336 01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:23,160 Speaker 1: The gym became the sanctuary. E G. County guys provide 1337 01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:28,480 Speaker 1: buckets for America. Prince Georgia has a lot of power, 1338 01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:33,160 Speaker 1: a lot of character, don't. It's nothing that you can 1339 01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:36,760 Speaker 1: do to stop that competitive and we're pushing the community 1340 01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:46,480 Speaker 1: and the culture forward. There's just in the water. This 1341 01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:53,320 Speaker 1: life was all I ever wanted. I'm not leaving, not yet. 1342 01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:57,120 Speaker 1: I was hoping you say that you gotta hit the streets, 1343 01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:03,320 Speaker 1: make some money. Paple like us, destroy Pable like him. 1344 01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:13,680 Speaker 1: Buckle up, get Showtime free at showtime dot com.