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Speaker 1: Here we go.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into a Wednesday edition of Texans All Access. I'm

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Speaker 2: your host, John Harris, Football and all Sideline reporter, alongside

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Speaker 2: the voice the only one there's ever been for the

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Speaker 2: Houston Texans, my man Mark Vandermier. Mark, good evening. We

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Speaker 2: have plenty to hit on, but I want to start

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Speaker 2: right here. I know this is Texans All Access, I

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Speaker 2: get it, but I want to start right here because

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Speaker 2: I know there are a lot of Estonians listening, a

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Speaker 2: lot like me that grew up in the city of Houston,

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Speaker 2: and the voice of Jeen Peterson was always in our ears.

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Speaker 1: He was a massive Rockets homer.

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Speaker 2: He passes away today, spent thirty three years as the

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Speaker 2: radio voice of the Houston Rockets. I know when you

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Speaker 2: first got to town, you told me his story and

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Speaker 2: I love this. I want you to share this. You

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Speaker 2: had both mileon Hamilton and Geen Peterson on your radio show,

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Speaker 2: and I thought it was the coolest thing ever, because

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm such kind of a nerder geek for

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Speaker 2: radio voices. First your thoughts on Gene and then just

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Speaker 2: what that day was like to kind of share the

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Speaker 2: afternoon with Gene and with Milo.

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Speaker 3: Well, Gene was what you want as the voice of

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Speaker 3: your team and broadcast those two championship seasons and many

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Speaker 3: others Johnny eighty six finals they lose to the Great

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Speaker 3: Celtics team. Eighty one finals, they lose to the Celtics. Yep,

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Speaker 3: they're the only Western Conference team to make the finals

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Speaker 3: in the eighties other than the Lakers, and they lost

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Speaker 3: both those finals. But gena part of all of that,

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Speaker 3: And like you said, so many people and I wasn't

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Speaker 3: one of them, but I got here as fast as

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Speaker 3: I could. Grew up with Jean Peterson at the microphone,

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Speaker 3: and it really meant something profound and powerful to the listeners.

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Speaker 3: He and the great Jim Foley working together as a

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Speaker 3: tandem and doing an amazing job. Now me as a

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Speaker 3: radio geek, I knew who Jeen Peterson was. And when

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Speaker 3: I got here to town at O two when the

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Speaker 3: Texans started, I sought.

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Speaker 1: Out Jean Peterson.

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Speaker 3: I sought out mile O Hamilton because I knew what

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Speaker 3: legends these guys were. And I take being the voice

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Speaker 3: of a team extremely seriously, as you know, and I

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Speaker 3: really wanted to meet those guys, the deans of it

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Speaker 3: all here in Houston, and Gene could not be a

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Speaker 3: nicer guy, could not have been a more wonderful ambassador

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Speaker 3: of the city, of the organization of the Rockets. And

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Speaker 3: I really liked him so much along with Jim, and

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Speaker 3: I had he and Milo Hamilton in studio once we

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Speaker 3: did a great show. Gene was so good to Milo Hamilton,

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Speaker 3: asking him questions, and I'll never forget the way he

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Speaker 3: was to him.

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Speaker 1: And I was the young guy. You know, this is three.

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Speaker 3: I think that show occurred, and Neil Talmage over at

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Speaker 3: CBS Radio at the time helped me put that together

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Speaker 3: because he knew those guys from various radio lives. And

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Speaker 3: it was a great day and we took a picture.

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Speaker 3: I've got it somewhere. I got to get that out.

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Speaker 3: It really was a tremendous day, Johnny, And I'll never

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Speaker 3: forget it, the late Milo Hamilton and now the late

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Speaker 3: Jean Peterson and rip Gene, because that is who he

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Speaker 3: has strived to be. If you're the voice of a team,

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Speaker 3: a guy like Jean Peterson, who's so beloved, who I

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Speaker 3: think he once picked up a technical foul or something

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Speaker 3: to be so upset at the officials courtside.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like that that probably happened.

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Speaker 2: Gene would get fired up, and as a kid, listening

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Speaker 2: to them he and Jim Foley was just awesome.

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Speaker 1: And I've I've you know, it's funny. I've heard some.

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Speaker 2: People say, oh, you know you and Mark, you guys

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Speaker 2: you're kind of supposed to be. If you're listening to

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Speaker 1: That that's gonna hurt.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, absolutely, you know when things aren't going well,

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Speaker 2: you can hear the emotion coming out of your voice,

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Speaker 2: our voices. I'm glad people don't hear exactly what you

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Speaker 4: But I just.

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Speaker 2: Remember Geane and Jim playing off one another, and I

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Speaker 2: remember being there was a game in Utah. I want

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Speaker 2: It is so so good, and the Rockets end up

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Speaker 2: and it was like that was every Rockets fans, you know, emotion.

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Speaker 1: Coming through, like what's going on.

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Speaker 2: It was like I always feel in some sense like

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Speaker 2: we are speaking, you know, for the fans in some sense,

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Speaker 2: you know, what's what's happening, letting all that emotion show,

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Speaker 2: and they definitely did that. And you know, obviously, you

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Speaker 2: know I got to I got here to Houston and

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Speaker 2: the Rockets, you know, the Rockets.

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Speaker 1: It was a couple of years into being here. I

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Speaker 1: got here in eighty three.

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Speaker 2: They get in the finals in eighty six, and I

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Speaker 2: just remember that run and hearing them, you know, drive

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Speaker 2: somewhere and you would just be listening to them on

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Speaker 2: the radio, you hanging on on every single word. And

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Speaker 2: I hope that people do that for us. But Geene

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Speaker 3: Thirty three years years as the voice of the Rockets.

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Speaker 3: I don't think I don't know that number because he

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Speaker 3: he was the voice of the Rockets longer than any

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Speaker 3: announcer was the voice of their team in this city's history.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So.

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Speaker 3: Your humble narrator over here knows this and would like

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Speaker 3: to make it at least thirty four. You better not

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Speaker 3: be stopping at that tour. I've told Gene that at

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Speaker 3: some point. I said, Man, I just I'm gunning for

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Speaker 3: your record, Gene, that kind of thing. And Milo didn't

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Speaker 3: last as long here, but Milo broadcast baseball for a

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Speaker 3: half century. More than that, I think it's fifty five

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Speaker 3: sixty years for Milo. He's everywhere, but he's a legend

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Speaker 3: here as well. But yeah, rip Gene, God bless him

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Speaker 3: and his family.

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Speaker 1: There's no easy way to segue out of that.

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Speaker 2: But you're right, you said it best mark our best

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Speaker 2: to the Rockets family and to Geen Peterson his family

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Speaker 2: as well. I want to ask you this very simply. Put,

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Speaker 2: we've got to that point in camp where we've seen

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Speaker 2: a number of things happen in camp. So what has

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Speaker 2: impressed you the most about camp? And we don't spend

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Speaker 2: what are some of your things where you're like, well,

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Speaker 2: maybe nine B boy, I'd like to see this be

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Speaker 2: a little bit better. Well, maybe hold on that one

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Speaker 2: for a little bit. But what has impressed you about

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Speaker 2: camp thus far? We're six practices in. What's gotten your attention?

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Speaker 2: Maybe more than anything else?

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Speaker 3: You know, Demico's saying iron sharpens iron, and it's really happening.

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Speaker 3: Both sides make plays, both sides make big plays, and

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Speaker 3: this defense.

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Speaker 1: Is going to be good. Oh boy, this defense.

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Speaker 3: We talk about the offense all the time, rightfully, so

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be interesting. And I think I brought it

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Speaker 3: up in an off season show, Who's gonna make the

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Speaker 3: most improvement the defense of the offense?

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Speaker 1: Who's really gonna shine?

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Speaker 3: Now? They could both shine wonderfully, but I just think

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Speaker 1: They are making it very difficult on CJ. Stride.

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Speaker 3: He has to throw the ball perfectly to make headway

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Speaker 3: against this defense and get time because it's not always

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Speaker 3: possible against the fierce rush you're taking on Today they

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Speaker 3: and it was just so much fun to watch how

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Speaker 3: they would pick it up and adjust. But that's been

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Speaker 3: it that both sides are making plays. I'm not worried

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Speaker 3: with what this defense is able to do. In addition

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Speaker 3: to Stroud to dig, Stroud to Nico, the play Nico

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Speaker 3: made today that everyone's seen, it's gone viral already on

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Speaker 3: the sideline right next to us and they shot the

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Speaker 3: angle that we saw, and numerous other plays. Johnny, that's

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Speaker 3: really been standing out to me how deep this team

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Speaker 3: is and how both sides are.

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Speaker 1: Making really elite level plays.

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Speaker 2: Use the word elite, and I was like that word

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Speaker 1: Today was maybe the culmination of it. But I mentioned it.

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Speaker 2: You'll hear this a little bit later in our secondary breakdown.

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Speaker 2: We broke down the defensive backs and there's a lot

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Speaker 2: little bit later. I really do think that Derek Stingley

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Speaker 2: Either the best cover corner in the league, or he's

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Speaker 2: in the top two or three team picture.

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Speaker 1: He made a couple of plays today.

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Speaker 2: The first play that he ended up making today was

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Speaker 1: It was Tank.

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Speaker 2: Tank was on a go route just one two to

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Speaker 2: watching the play, kept thinking kind of like the interception

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Speaker 2: looks like Brown's got a step on him. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: it really is that way because Sting is playing the ball,

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Speaker 2: He's looking back for the ball.

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Speaker 1: He knows he's in phase.

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Speaker 2: Now when you hear when you hear me say in phase,

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Speaker 2: it basically means that he's in position to be able

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Speaker 2: always tell the defensive backs, you know, you don't really

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Speaker 2: look back for the ball until you're in phase. Well,

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Speaker 2: he knew he's in phase the whole way. So the

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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, Tank's got a step on Sting, And

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Speaker 2: all of a suddenly the ball is coming down. And

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Speaker 2: realize but Sting really isn't worried so much about Tank.

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Speaker 1: He's playing the ball.

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Speaker 2: His ball skills are absolutely phenomenally elite.

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Speaker 1: H And he goes up and he catches the ball.

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Speaker 2: Now, Tank tried to get on, you know, get on

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Speaker 2: it as if to say he was sharing it, and

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Speaker 2: there was a little tusso on the ground. I'm telling you,

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Speaker 2: I've not seen a defensive back, and we've seen some

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Speaker 2: good ones here on this field. We saw Jonathan Joseph

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Speaker 2: Kareem Jackson was really good. A J Boyer, I know

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Speaker 2: where you're going. It was really really good. He's got

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Speaker 2: as good at ball skills as I've ever seen does.

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Speaker 1: And look, Cred Glenn was here in the early days. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was up close, but that's we're not there yet.

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Speaker 3: But entering year three here, if he has the kind

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Speaker 3: of season we're dreaming about, he will become the best

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Speaker 1: You need all these guys. I mean, that's obvious.

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Speaker 3: They gotta get Sharper and vander Kid who's helping us out. Yeah, now,

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Speaker 2: you said it best. He's like, yeah, you know, tempras flair,

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Speaker 1: That was a long fight, Yeah, we very much.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that is the longest fight intra squad all right,

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Speaker 3: I think I've ever seen in the Texans training camp.

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Speaker 3: I can't think of one that was longer than that.

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Speaker 3: And it wasn't all punches flying every second of the fight, right,

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Speaker 1: No doubt.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of volume, the defensive backfield has got plenty of volume,

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Speaker 2: next right here.

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Speaker 4: Do not miss it.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: Now. I do have a ninety man roster breakdown of

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Speaker 2: But if you want the audio version so you just

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Speaker 2: it's right here. Because our position group that we broke

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Speaker 1: Is defensive backs.

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Speaker 3: Let's do it, Johnny, and I'm gonna start right here

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Speaker 3: with a guy who was drafted by this team, ended

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Speaker 3: Guy's gonna play in some preseason games Brandon Hill safety.

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Speaker 4: Was very good in it, just hasn't been as good.

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00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,199
Speaker 2: He got banged up I think the second year he

441
00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,840
Speaker 2: was in Detroit and they then like all right, were

442
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,520
Speaker 2: don't trust this, Let's go to year three. They traded

443
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,359
Speaker 2: him in Atlanta. I thought there were times in Atlanta

444
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:15,879
Speaker 2: he was okay.

445
00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:16,679
Speaker 4: You know.

446
00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,840
Speaker 2: So he's in that competition start opposite Derek Stingley. So

447
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,000
Speaker 2: it's a lot of a sketch to scratch off. You

448
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,960
Speaker 2: don't pay one year, you don't pay a ton of money,

449
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,119
Speaker 2: and you you see if you can get you know,

450
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,520
Speaker 2: ten twelve million dollars of value out of three or

451
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 2: four million dollars in actual cash.

452
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:31,800
Speaker 3: All right, let me go to a guy in a

453
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,439
Speaker 3: similar category. That would be CJ. Henderson.

454
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:36,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, no, how to.

455
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 4: Think about it. I haven't seen much of CJ. Out

456
00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 4: of practice.

457
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,520
Speaker 2: I know in OTAs in Mini camp, I thought he

458
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 2: was he was doing some good things.

459
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 4: He and a couter are kind of battling.

460
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,480
Speaker 2: And obviously Kamari took over and has been that number

461
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 2: one corner oppos in Stingley.

462
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 4: But Henderson's safe kind of thing.

463
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,960
Speaker 2: You see Henderson on the hoof, as I like to say, man,

464
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,720
Speaker 2: that's a first round corner. Yeah, and he got probably overdrafted.

465
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 2: I didn't think that he kind of matched up. But

466
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,359
Speaker 2: that said, it didn't fit in Jacksonville, Yo. Carolina. Had

467
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 2: a couple of moments kind of the same as a Kuda,

468
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,199
Speaker 2: almost traveling the same exact path to get here. I

469
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 2: think one of those two ends up making the roster

470
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 2: at corner.

471
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 3: People hear the name Mike Ford, they might think a

472
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,119
Speaker 3: Mike Ford. He's in his sixth year in this league.

473
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:18,200
Speaker 3: How has he stayed around? Mike Ford cornerback?

474
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,920
Speaker 4: He's he's longer, like he's got some length tall.

475
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,920
Speaker 2: Made a great play the other day in team where

476
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 2: he was step per step with Noah Brown, fought for

477
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 2: the football, tipped up in the air, a Couda picked

478
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 2: it off.

479
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 1: But Mike's thinking special teams.

480
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,960
Speaker 2: Mike, Mike can be a special team superstar, and I

481
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,120
Speaker 2: think that's kind of.

482
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,879
Speaker 4: The more of the focus for Ford.

483
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 2: But you know, as well as I do to keep

484
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,400
Speaker 2: a guy for special teams, injuries are gonna happen.

485
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 4: At corner.

486
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 2: You gotta step up. Can a guy step up and

487
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 2: give you? You know, I don't say the minimum, but

488
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,400
Speaker 2: he gives you value where he's not a problem during

489
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 2: the game.

490
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 4: I think Mike definitely fits in that category.

491
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 3: All right, what about Longhorn Chris Boyd, Well, you talk

492
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 3: about body envy, this guy's got like a twenty four pack.

493
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,120
Speaker 4: He's an incredible athlete.

494
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,120
Speaker 2: Where he really helped us last year in the games

495
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 2: that he was active late in the year for US

496
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 2: was on special teams, great gunner pinnedon ball down at

497
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 2: the one yard line. I love having Chris Boyd on

498
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 2: his team. Now, how does he develop as a corner

499
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 2: in his defense? It means to be seen. But I

500
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 2: think what along with Mike Ford, what really helps out

501
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 2: Chris Boyd? They are ultimate teams special teamers. All you

502
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 2: people out there play mad you know deltimate team is

503
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 2: He's an ultimate team special teamer. And I think that's

504
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 2: gonna be the competition, which guys can you carry as

505
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:42,160
Speaker 2: focal point special teamers at a particular position because.

506
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,120
Speaker 4: You can only carry so many.

507
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 2: And so I think that Mike Ford, Chris Boyd, they're

508
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 2: kind of in that competition.

509
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 3: Would corner Miles Bryant fit into that. We saw him

510
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 3: in a kickoff returret situation. Flip the ball to Tank

511
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 3: Dell yesterday.

512
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was fun.

513
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,400
Speaker 2: The only thing that holds Miles Bryant back from being

514
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 2: a full time starter in stud is the fact that

515
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 2: he's I don't know what's the programs. Does the roster

516
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 2: say he's five eight It says five to nine. No,

517
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,479
Speaker 2: he's like five to seven. But he is a true baller.

518
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 2: I love watching him. He had seventy seven tackles last

519
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 2: year for the Patriots. He knows how to play the nickel.

520
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 2: He's extremely instinctive. I mean, he's been short his entire

521
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 2: life and he's never let them stop him. He can run,

522
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 2: he can return kicks, he can return punts. Miles Bryant

523
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 2: is a very intriguing nickel. When they signed him, I thought, man,

524
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 2: this is gonna get really interesting because that dude can play.

525
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 2: He can play the nickel, he can match up in

526
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 2: uh man coverage with routes, he can match up on

527
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 2: slot receivers.

528
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 4: He's kind of their size.

529
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: So Miles Bryant becomes very very interesting to me.

530
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 2: But he's gonna play the nickel, and he's gonna return kicks,

531
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 2: and he's gonna play on all special teams.

532
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 3: Rookie running with the Ones, second round draft choice Kamari

533
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 3: lass In.

534
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 2: The words of Stefan Diggs, he might be ready. He

535
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 2: might be ready right now. He took over the second

536
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:57,199
Speaker 2: or third beek OTAs number number, the corner opposite Derek Stingley.

537
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 2: When they call out the Ones, he goes out there.

538
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 2: He's getting his baptism by fire, but man, he is

539
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 2: returning the fire as well. He has been as good

540
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 2: in man coverage zone coverage. I haven't seen the quarterbacks

541
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 2: throw much at him, and when they do, they're not successful.

542
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 2: They've done a lot of throwing the ball in the

543
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 2: middle of the field. They're not throwing the ball at

544
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 2: number twenty four and they're definitely not thrown at last.

545
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 2: But I love about Kamari is he's got an insatiable

546
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 2: desire to not only play football, but to learn the game.

547
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 2: I saw him yesterday as I was waiting for Tommy Townsend.

548
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 2: I watched Lassiter spend about five to seven minutes with

549
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs and they were just talking about one route

550
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaker 2: that was down on the goal line in the little

551
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 2: red zone, and I thought it was awesome. He's just

552
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 2: soaking up that knowledge and for Diggs to say what

553
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 2: he did a couple days ago in front of the media,

554
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 2: it just shows how advanced Kamari is. I don't care

555
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 2: about the four to six or whatever the forty time was.

556
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 2: I never saw him beat because of a lack of speed.

557
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 3: Yep, that you could play Troy Pride is out here.

558
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 3: What do you think?

559
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's another guy special team wise you're gonna take

560
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 2: a look at. But I think he's got length in

561
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 2: speed to be a cover corns.

562
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 4: He just not a lot of opportunity you got here.

563
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 4: I think late in the year.

564
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 2: Last year has the most beautiful eyes of the team,

565
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 2: let's just be clear about that. And he's got the

566
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 2: right body and build to be a corner.

567
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 4: But I don't know.

568
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 2: I just don't know if you start getting guys jammed

569
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 2: up that corner spot like you keep Henderson and Akuda,

570
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 2: I think if you want a younger guy relatively speaking,

571
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 2: I don't think he's.

572
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 4: Been around too too long. How long have been around here?

573
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 4: He's twenty four.

574
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, still a younger guy you could build with a domer.

575
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 2: Got a lot of domers.

576
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 3: Around here, yep. But they liked him.

577
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,239
Speaker 2: How does that sort of fit. I don't know if

578
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 2: he plays the nickels, so he's got to be a

579
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 2: primitive corner. So those guys are gonna get a long

580
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: look because you know that Sting is not gonna play

581
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 2: much these preseason games.

582
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 3: Remember a couple of years ago, the Texas were listing

583
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 3: all defensive backs as dbs, no matter whether you're a

584
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 3: corner or safety. But I feel like des King should

585
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 3: probably be listed as a dB.

586
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 2: Desmond King he can play any of the positions on

587
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 2: the field. If you're gonna play, so you're gonna play

588
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 2: a majority of his own. And that's what happened to

589
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 2: him in twenty one to twenty two. They thought he

590
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 2: was gonna be the nickel. They got banged up at corner,

591
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 2: so they decided to play a lot more of Lovey's

592
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 2: Cover two style where they can play morez own and

593
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 2: des was really really good at corner.

594
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 4: Twenty two, he plays the nickel.

595
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 1: He's really really good.

596
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 2: Doesn't make the roster coming out of twenty twenty three,

597
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:15,479
Speaker 2: they bring him back.

598
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 4: The first game he's back is Jacksonville.

599
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 2: He plays one play the entire game, and he stones

600
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 2: Travis Etn at the goal line. The next week, he starts,

601
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 2: and I think that was the Denver game. He starts

602
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 2: the Denver game, he's all over the field. He has

603
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 2: a strip fumble that's going in for a touchdown, but

604
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 2: the ball was ruled down, and so it was such

605
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 2: a shame because he just made an impact. Then we

606
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 2: played Tennessee. He's basically Derek Henry shadow. Henry does nothing

607
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 2: that game because des King's all over the play sing

608
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 2: he does played the nickel the whole year, So how

609
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 2: do they break that down this year?

610
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 4: I don't know.

611
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 2: I don't know how this is going to go, but

612
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 2: I know that they've got options at the nickel to

613
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 2: do what Demico wants to do. Guys that could cover

614
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 2: the slot, come up and make plays against the run,

615
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 2: blitz and create mayhem. Desmik King is all that and

616
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 2: then some. And I think he's got I think he's

617
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 2: gonna make this roster. I think Deswek King's the type

618
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: of guy you gotta have. Oh, by the way, he

619
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 2: can run back punts when you need him too. You

620
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 2: also yep, so you've got that. And he's got that

621
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 2: club in his back.

622
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 3: Derek Stingley Junior, Johnny Year three.

623
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: The truth I don't know that there.

624
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 4: I know that, you know.

625
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 3: So.

626
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 2: I saw somebody do a top ten corner the other day,

627
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 2: Top ten corner list they have Stinglee on and I'm like, well,

628
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 2: that's gonna look dumb at the end of the year.

629
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 4: GUSTERI Stingly if healthy. He's the truth.

630
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 3: I love it when they don't have the Texans on

631
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 3: these lists because it just motivates them even more. In

632
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 3: my mind.

633
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, I mean Lareremie knows Leremie's Larremie's guy was

634
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 2: tweeting this morning Larremi being number seventy one of the

635
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: in the players.

636
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 4: NFL Top one hundred. Yeah, it just was cap cap

637
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 4: cap cap, which is true.

638
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 2: You can flip the numbers and make him seventeen, and

639
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 2: that's probably about right for Larry. But point being with

640
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: sting his game came so far last year. You saw

641
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 2: it all really come together after the injury. And again

642
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 2: with sting you gotta mention it the injuries. The injuries

643
00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 2: are the thing that's.

644
00:27:59,040 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 4: Held him back.

645
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 2: But in one of those lists, Stingley I think was

646
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 2: eight or nine, and there were good things written about Sting.

647
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 2: I had, you know this, I had sting ahead of

648
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 2: Sauce the entire time because I just felt like the

649
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 2: natural instincts, the natural cover instincts, the match of mirror

650
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 2: stuff was all there was Stingley with Sauce. It was

651
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 2: just a street fight. And there are gonna be some

652
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 2: refts that are gonna let you have that street fight.

653
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: And one of the NFL scouts that were quoted on

654
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 2: saus and he's the most overrated player in the league.

655
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: I'll take that because I kind of believe that. I

656
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: don't think Derek Stingley. Derek Stingley might be the most

657
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 2: underrated player in the league. He is an absolute bonafide baller.

658
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 2: And the fact that in that playoff game, after all

659
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 2: week and Amico saying no, no, we're not gonna travel,

660
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Speaker 2: We're not gonna travel, We're not gonna travel, he travels

661
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Speaker 2: with Amari Cooper and Cooper does absolutely.

662
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Speaker 4: Zero in that game. Beautiful, Beautiful, That's what we have

663
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Speaker 4: in Stingley.

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Speaker 2: Because now you match Stingley with the rushers that are

665
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Speaker 2: up front, and now it's.

666
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Speaker 3: On continuing to break down the DBS. Let's go to

667
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Speaker 3: some more safeties here, Kln Bullock, rookie USC.

668
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Speaker 4: Yeah, as we found out yesterday, from m. J.

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Speaker 3: Stewart.

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Speaker 2: Young young boy, Kaylen Bullock. He has been hard to miss,

671
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Speaker 2: not only just size wise. I mean he still as

672
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: a pipe cleaner, but that dude can move, he can run,

673
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 2: he can cover ground. It's it's really really fun to

674
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 2: watch him out here, you know, changing mini camps and

675
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 2: kind of felt like he was just kind of making

676
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Speaker 2: sure he was not making the making the wrong mistake.

677
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 2: Now you end up watching him, it's like he's going

678
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Speaker 2: to make a play and I love that. I love

679
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Speaker 2: seeing that with him. So I think Kaylen Bullock is

680
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Speaker 2: gonna be in that safety mix, no doubt.

681
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Speaker 3: All Right, Well what about Jalen Petree. You mentioned they're

682
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 3: doing different things with them. What well, the fact that.

683
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Speaker 2: He's down playing a nickel is a lot more of

684
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Speaker 2: what he did at Baylor. And I remember talking to

685
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Speaker 2: David r at Baylor and Dave said to me, we

686
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Speaker 2: had the Jalen rules and basically Jalen could, you know,

687
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 2: could blitz different gaps. He could just let his instincts

688
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Speaker 2: take over and then everybody else would adapt him. And

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Speaker 2: I don't know that you do that here, but I

690
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Speaker 2: think if you have Jalen playing a little bit closer

691
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Speaker 2: to the line of scrimmage. It may suit him and

692
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Speaker 2: in suiting him and may suit the defense a little

693
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Speaker 2: bit better. So if he's at the nickel, he could

694
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Speaker 2: play safety. I saw him covering man and man of Robert.

695
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Speaker 1: Woods the other day. He's as good as I've seen

696
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Speaker 1: him cover.

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Speaker 2: So if Petrie's doing that in a slot on receivers,

698
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Speaker 2: then he might be the right nickel man.

699
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Speaker 3: Anybody who's been in the league nine years, you got

700
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Speaker 3: to say respect, and that would be Eric Murray still

701
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Speaker 3: on this football team, still helping.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's one of the longest ten year Texans.

704
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Speaker 2: He's done pretty much anything for this team. If he

705
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 2: needs on special teams, he's on. He's playing safety, he's on.

706
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Speaker 2: He's at nickel, he's on it. I feel really good

707
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Speaker 2: when Eric Murray's in the game, and when Petrie goes

708
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Speaker 2: out to the nickel, it's Eric who steps up of

709
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Speaker 2: that safety spot next to Jimmy Ward.

710
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Speaker 1: And I think Eric's got really comfortable in that safety spot.

711
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Speaker 2: And he came into the league playing corner, kind of

712
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Speaker 2: transitioned out of that to safety. He got here, they

713
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Speaker 2: stuck him at safety full time. Then they moved him

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Speaker 2: around a little bit to play corner or I mean

715
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Speaker 2: played nickel. I think Eric Murray as safety, I feel

716
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Speaker 2: really good and I think we missed him last year.

717
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Speaker 2: There were times where where Jimmy Ward was hurt. MJ

718
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Speaker 2: got hurt right after that. We needed to have Eric Murray.

719
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Speaker 2: Now guys filled in dhc Adrian Amos, but we missed.

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Speaker 4: Eric Murray a lot last year.

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Speaker 3: M J.

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Speaker 4: Stewart come in the same vein of Eric Murray.

723
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Speaker 2: The guy that's been around a VET, knows his role

724
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Speaker 2: and he loves it. He cherishes it big on special teams.

725
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Speaker 2: But again he got hurt one play after Jimmy Ward

726
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 2: did last year against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

727
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Speaker 4: We missed MJ.

728
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Speaker 2: We needed to have MJ and or Eric, and we

729
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Speaker 2: didn't have that last year, and I think that.

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Speaker 3: Hurt us all right. Jimmy Ward, my gosh, when he's healthy,

731
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Speaker 3: he's contributing. He's one of those guys. Salty veteran knows

732
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Speaker 3: DEMI go well from San Francisco really helped last year.

733
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Speaker 3: What is he like this year?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: We three.

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Speaker 2: Last year I had him as a player of the

737
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Speaker 2: game and he kind of looked at me afterwards and

738
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Speaker 2: I said Jimmy, this thing is different when you're on

739
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Speaker 2: the field. It's just that much different when you're on

740
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Speaker 2: the field, and he kind of looked at me said thanks.

741
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Speaker 2: So the leadership, the on field, the physical everything, it's

742
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Speaker 2: just a matter of staying on the field. Now, I

743
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Speaker 2: think you have if MJ and Eric stay healthy. With

744
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Speaker 2: Kaylen Bullock, I think you have more answers if Jimmy

745
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Speaker 2: does get banged up, just hoping that he doesn't get

746
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Speaker 2: banged up, because you've got.

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Speaker 4: To have his presence on the field. And you think

748
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Speaker 4: about leadership.

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Speaker 2: If you've got Danil and Will upfront, and you got

750
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Speaker 2: a ZS in the middle, and you got Jimmy Ward

751
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Speaker 2: in the back end, you got leadership and that's exactly

752
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Speaker 2: what you need. And if those those groups are all communicating, well,

753
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Speaker 2: I think you could have whatever you want to do

754
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 2: on this defense. Well this defense has been on one.

755
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 2: They were good today. Derek Stingley Junior is elite. Will

756
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 2: Anderson Junior was blowing stuff up. They had different rush combinations.

757
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: It was really fun to watch. I love watching Nike

758
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 2: Autry do his work, whether it's outside inside. Mario Edwards Junior,

759
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 2: who he heard from this morning, at Texas string Camp live.

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Speaker 4: He has been very good on the inside, so as mctelevin.

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Speaker 2: Vsjim Sosa has been really really good when he's coming

762
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Speaker 2: in with that second and third group guys making plays

763
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Speaker 2: on the defensive side. And look, we all know this

764
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Speaker 2: offense is gonna be really good if everybody stays healthy.

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Speaker 2: That's obviously a big deal because missing Joe Mixon a

766
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Speaker 2: little bit, but hopefully Joe'll get back. But Damian's done

767
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 2: a really nice job running the rock. He is determined,

768
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Speaker 2: determined to show that twenty twenty three was a fluke,

769
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Speaker 2: that he is the real deal like he was in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. I can't wait to see what thirty

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Speaker 2: one does. But we know this offense can move the football,

772
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Speaker 2: there's no question. Right This defense has had moments of

773
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Speaker 2: just shutting it down and just making it really tough

774
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Speaker 2: on this offense. So there's no telling what this team

775
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Speaker 2: can do if this defense is at that particular level.

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Speaker 4: Okay, we get back.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna hear from a guy that's been around a

778
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: little bit with Steven f. Austin played with the Texans,

779
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Speaker 2: was there for the Hall of Fame game in two

780
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Speaker 2: thousand and two when the Texans opened their legacy. If

781
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 2: you were started their legacy, if you will, right there

782
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Speaker 2: in Canton at the Hall of Fame game, Mike Quinn,

783
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Speaker 2: the Mighty Quinn joins us.

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Speaker 4: Next right here on Texans All Access.

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Speaker 2: We want to follow segment of this initiation to Texans

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Speaker 2: All Access. I'm your hoach, John Harrison Football and on

787
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Speaker 2: a sideline reporter. Go check out my work at Houston

788
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Speaker 2: Texans dot com. You can listen to Texas Training Camp Live,

789
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Speaker 2: all of our TV shows. Man, there's a lot of

790
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Speaker 2: places where you can hear me wax nostalgic about former

791
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: Texans years and players, talk about the current team, all

792
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Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. And we talked about former players.

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Speaker 2: One of our favorites is Mike Quinn, former quarterback when

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Speaker 2: Stephen F. Austin was there at.

795
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Speaker 4: The Hall of Fame game in two thousand and two for.

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Speaker 2: The Texans in Original Texan, Mike Quinn sat down and

797
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Speaker 2: chopped it up with us this morning at Texans Training

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Speaker 2: Camp Live.

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Speaker 3: Tickels Mike Quinn joins us now Texans Legends community member

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Speaker 3: Mike the Mighty Quinn, Steven F. Austin and original Texan

801
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Speaker 3: one of the quarterbacks in the early days. Oh to Mike,

802
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Speaker 3: how's it going.

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Speaker 5: It's going good. Appreciate you having me Mark.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's wonderful to see you. All right. I want

805
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Speaker 3: to talk about this things in no particular order. Let's

806
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 3: go Hall of Fame Game two. This is the second

807
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 3: time in Texans history that they're in the Hall of

808
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 3: Fame Game a week from tomorrow night. What was it

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Speaker 3: like being part of that experience at O two.

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Speaker 6: Well, at the Hall of Fame Game that year, it

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Speaker 6: sucked because I was injured and did not get to play.

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Speaker 5: Oh but here's a little nugget for you.

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Speaker 6: In my eight years in the NFL, I went to

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Speaker 6: the Hall of Fame Game five times.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, it's got to be a record, right, So

816
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Speaker 3: I think it's gotta be a record.

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Speaker 6: That's a I think that's a uh so pitt sign

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00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 6: that I was moving around a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So Pittsburgh, Dallas, Yeah, Pittsburgh, Dallas, Miami, Houston, and Denver.

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Speaker 2: You start camp really early then every single exactly, we

821
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Speaker 2: had five preseason games every every year that year.

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Speaker 6: So in those years that we had Hall of Fame Game,

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Speaker 6: which was good for me because as a backup quarterback.

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Speaker 6: You know, I made the team whether I played good

825
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 6: in the preseason. If I played well, made the team.

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Speaker 6: If I didn't play well, didn't make the team. So

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Speaker 6: getting those opportunities was huge.

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Speaker 2: Well, min, I was just gonna ask you that the

829
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Speaker 2: opportunity for these young guys to have a fourth preseason game,

830
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Speaker 2: now back in the day it was five, to have

831
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Speaker 2: an additional.

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Speaker 4: Game at the Hall of Fame game, I.

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Speaker 2: Would imagine that's got to be huge, especially for a quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Was that kind of that way for you?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely? Absolutely, it's huge.

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Speaker 6: So these guys, you know, they're trying to get their

837
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 6: starters ready for the season, right, so practice reps are

838
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 6: going to be limited, so they want to you know,

839
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Speaker 6: get out there in the preseason games and they're not

840
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Speaker 6: gonna let their starters play a whole bunch.

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Speaker 5: So those young guys, that's their chance, and if they

842
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Speaker 5: do well.

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Speaker 6: They're not only showing them their current team something, they're

844
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 6: also showing the rest of the league something.

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Speaker 3: So what is it like when you're in the layers

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Speaker 3: of the depth chart and you're out there with your

847
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Speaker 3: group training camp practices, you want to show out everybody

848
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Speaker 3: does do you form a chemistry with the guys you're

849
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Speaker 3: with generally with I know they do a lot of

850
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Speaker 3: dropping people up or moving people up, dropping them down,

851
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Speaker 3: that kind of thing. But how do you approach that, Mike?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think those are the guys that you're going

853
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Speaker 5: to battle with.

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Speaker 6: So those are the guys that you're you know, you're

855
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Speaker 6: trying to get some extra reps with after practice, making

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Speaker 6: sure that you're you know, yeah, chemistry is good and

857
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 6: you know, timing is good. So when you get out

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Speaker 6: there in the games, you guys are you know, it's

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Speaker 6: just like practice. So yeah, there is you know, kind

860
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Speaker 6: of a camaraderie amongst those backups that hey, we're all

861
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Speaker 6: trying to make it.

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00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 5: We're all trying to make it.

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Speaker 6: We got each other's back, and you know, we're happy

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Speaker 6: for the guys that do well.

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Speaker 1: Mike, unlike the two of us talk all the time.

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Speaker 1: We never played quarterback. We could only speak to what

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Speaker 1: we see on television.

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Speaker 2: You played the position, you know what it's like what

869
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 2: you saw from CJ.

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Speaker 1: Strout as a rookie last year? Hey, were you impressed

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Speaker 1: by that? And be what did impress you when you

872
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: watched him?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: How couldn't you be?

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Speaker 5: I mean The guy was incredible.

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Speaker 6: I think the most impressive thing was just how smooth

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Speaker 6: he looked processing everything. He did not look flustered, did

878
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 6: not look you know, the snaves wasn't too big obviously

879
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 6: coming from Ohio State and all the big games that

880
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 6: he played in, but he just processed the information so

881
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 6: well and it didn't seem like he was ever trying

882
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 6: to horse the ball was you know, everything was the

883
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 6: ball was coming out and he was you know, he's

884
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 6: always been accurate, that's been his thing, so it was.

885
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 5: It was impressive.

886
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 6: There was no reason to think that he wouldn't be,

887
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 6: you know, from what he did in college.

888
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 5: But yeah, it was. It was great to see and

889
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 5: hopefully that's something to build on this year with some

890
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 5: of the additions they.

891
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 6: Made on the on offense during.

892
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 5: The offseason, and yeah, we're excited to see what he does.

893
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 3: Mike Quinn, an original Texans quarterback, joining us on Texans Radio. Mike,

894
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 3: You've been around a lot of teams. This team has

895
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 3: high expectations. So does the word pressure coming to play?

896
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 3: I know it always does in the NFL, but how

897
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 3: does it with these guys with the expectations people have

898
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 3: of them after having such a such a successful launch

899
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 3: to the Demico Riots and CJ. Stroud Era.

900
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the pressure is there only if they

901
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 5: let it right. So it's up to them.

902
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 6: They got to make a decision each day that hey,

903
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 6: we're not we're not giving anything based upon what we

904
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 6: did last year. This is a fresh you know, fresh

905
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 6: start for everybody. So you know, all you can do

906
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 6: is kind of build on the confidence that you built

907
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 6: last year and let the outside noise talk about the

908
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 6: pressure and they just focus on their jobs.

909
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 5: If they do that, you know, they got a tough schedule.

910
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 6: But if they do that and keep building on what

911
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 6: they did last year, I think they're gonna be in

912
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 6: good shape.

913
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: Okay, Mike, I gotta ask this because I'm being selfish.

914
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,479
Speaker 2: Nothing to do with the Texans, but are you sad

915
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 2: that the Battle of Piney Woods is gone?

916
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 1: Yes?

917
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 6: I mean Sam Houston just couldn't handle us anymore. You know,

918
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 6: they just wanted to get out and I get it

919
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 6: done it. You know, they were tired of you know,

920
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 6: the Lumberjacks beat them I think one time in the

921
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 6: last twelve.

922
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 5: Years, and they were just tired of that.

923
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 6: So yeah, no, it is sad to see it was

924
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,959
Speaker 6: a it was a great rivalry, and it was fun

925
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 6: that they had it here. Yeah, in RG for so

926
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 6: many years, and yeah, it's it's sad to see it go.

927
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 5: A lot of a lot of good memories from that.

928
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 3: Do you make it up to Steven F. Boston anytime

929
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 3: to say hello and hobnob with the alums.

930
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

931
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 6: We just went up there this past year in April

932
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 6: for their spring game for the Cali Belcher Day.

933
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 5: Cali Belcher was a teammate of mine that passed.

934
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 6: Away tragically in ninety four during the off season, and

935
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 6: so we went up there to honor his memory, and

936
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 6: you know, watch the spring game and meet some of

937
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 6: the coaches and some of the players, and yeah, it

938
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 6: was really cool to be back up there and that.

939
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 3: You were in the league eight years. Certain you threw

940
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 3: three passes in a regular season situation, but you got

941
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 3: a sixty six percent couple. That's right.

942
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 4: Awesome.

943
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 3: I'd a career sixty six percent passer, Mike plant It's awesome.

944
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 3: But what is the key to surviving so long in

945
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 3: the league. Because we were just talking about some of

946
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 3: these dbs, and all of a sudden you look up

947
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 3: and you know, Eric Murray's been in the league nine

948
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 3: years and people survive and thrive. What is the key

949
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 3: or one of them anyway.

950
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 6: But yeah, so for me personally, it was all about

951
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,479
Speaker 6: just knowing exactly what I needed to do, so knowing

952
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 6: the playbook inside and out. So I wasn't getting a

953
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 6: ton of reps out there in fact, this being a

954
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 6: you know, second and third string quarterback, So it was

955
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 6: all about getting those you know, quote unquote mental reps, uh,

956
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 6: learning through osmosis as they say. And when I did

957
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 6: get an opportunity, is just trying to take advantage of it.

958
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 5: So that's that's kind of how I.

959
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 6: Lived, and making sure I was a good teammate, making

960
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 6: sure I was you know, contribute in any way I could, because.

961
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,439
Speaker 5: I was on the bubble every single year.

962
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 2: Mike, Whenever I hear the words fall camp or training camp,

963
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 2: I still have this like I just kind of shudder

964
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 2: a little bit because I think of two days and

965
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 2: I think of just living in the dorms and going

966
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 2: through it and just.

967
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: The hell that is training camp in some sense.

968
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 2: But is there something that you remember about it that

969
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 2: you go, you know, what I missed that part of

970
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 2: training camp?

971
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I guess my rookie year was ninety seven.

972
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 6: They still had two a days back then, So I do.

973
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 5: Miss kind of that.

974
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 6: You're going through that grind and everybody's in it together,

975
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 6: so you do build some you know, some bonds there

976
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 6: and some brotherhood there. So I think there's a little

977
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 6: bit of you know, there's some benefit to that. And

978
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 6: now it's just it's a little it's easier on their bodies,

979
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 6: and they probably should.

980
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 5: Be doing it the way they're doing it now to make.

981
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 6: Sure that they're protecting the investment that is there, you know,

982
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 6: their players. But you do miss out on some of that.

983
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 6: You know, going through the you know, the grind of

984
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 6: training camp together. It builds, you know, toughness in the team.

985
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: That's second practice in the afternoon, you're putting on your

986
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 2: wet here and you're like.

987
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: Man, I gotta do this at pen exactly.

988
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 6: And I think the worst two is that you know

989
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 6: that in between nap that you sometimes take two.

990
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 5: You know, if you take a nap sometimes.

991
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: It's even worse.

992
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 6: You just feel terrible when you wake up, and uh,

993
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 6: you know your body needs it, but you know, just

994
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 6: that feeling of getting up again in the middle of

995
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 6: the afternoon.

996
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 3: And I tell you this as a member of the media,

997
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 3: I did not like the two of days either. You know,

998
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 3: I know, woe is me, but geez, it's one of

999
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 3: the Yeah, rough, we're the bubble a lot in the afternoons.

1000
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 3: That's the team's practice and stuff like that. Like you're

1001
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 3: still in commercial real estate, right, yes, sir? All right?

1002
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this. You're in the league eight

1003
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 3: years and when you retire from the NFL and you

1004
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 3: played a while, what give me a couple of things

1005
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 3: that are really important for these players to know. What

1006
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 3: would you tell the young guys, Hey, it doesn't last forever.

1007
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 3: How do you set yourself up for your next life?

1008
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 3: Because whenever you retire, even Brady, you're still a relatively

1009
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 3: young and you got a whole life ahead of you.

1010
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1011
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 6: Absolutely, And you know, nothing's guaranteed in this league. So

1012
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 6: my advice to the younger guys is just network as

1013
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 6: much as you can while you're in the league, because

1014
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 6: your platform is never as high as it is when

1015
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 6: you're an active player. So take advantage of every opportunity

1016
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 6: that you have for events, to meet people, business leaders,

1017
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 6: in the community, anybody, and just network because you never know,

1018
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 6: you know when you come out of the league, what

1019
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 6: opportunities may arise just because you made a connection with

1020
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 6: somebody while you were playing.

1021
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 3: That's a great way you put it. Your platform is

1022
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 3: n never as high as when you're an active player.

1023
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 3: It's so true that Juice is at the max ever's

1024
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 3: active NFL player. You got to capitalize on it. My

1025
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 3: great stuff is always it's always fun to visit with you.

1026
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I appreciate it. Mark, always good to see you,

1027
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 5: and yeah, go Texans space.

1028
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 3: All right. If you want to hear more from Mike,

1029
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 3: he's on a Texans OG's podcast on Houston Texans dot

1030
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 3: com with Nd Kalou. It's right on the website. You

1031
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 3: can scroll through the OG's library and find Mike and

1032
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 3: Nd talking for about an hour. It's awesome on the

1033
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 3: former player stuff and other things as well.

1034
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: I bet real estate comes up in that conversation, and.

1035
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, you some real estate talk there. I mean, Andy

1036
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 3: should probably have a real estate show as well.

1037
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 2: That would be awesome. I would listened to that. India

1038
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: is fantastic. I love listening to talking about football, but

1039
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 2: he knows real estate as well as anybody. He's really

1040
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 2: really fun to listen to and we always chop it

1041
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 2: up with all these new buying and selling shows that

1042
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 2: are on Netflix. Was texting each other, how far do

1043
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 2: you get? Do you see this scene? Do you see

1044
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 2: this house? Oh my god, that house is incredible. We're

1045
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 2: always talking about that stuff. I'm not into real estate.

1046
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 4: I would never do it.

1047
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 2: I just always think it's kind of fun, especially to

1048
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 2: watch those particular shows.

1049
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 4: All right around the league.

1050
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 2: A little bit here before we shut her down, the

1051
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 2: Lions activated six guys from their injury lists, including Brian Brant.

1052
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 4: That's a big one for the Lions.

1053
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 2: He I thought was one of the more underrated players

1054
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 2: last year, one of the more underrated rookies.

1055
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 4: Great year with the Detroit Lions last year.

1056
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 2: Brandon i Yuk at San Francisco Go practice, not practicing.

1057
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 2: That is what we call a hold in. But Brandon

1058
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 2: Ayuk at some point went up to talk to John Lynch.

1059
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 2: So we'll see what comes out of that. But Brandon

1060
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 2: Ayuke holding in, it's been a big story all off season.

1061
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 2: It started really, I think the day after the Super

1062
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 2: Bowl and it's continued to be a story. So we'll

1063
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 2: see what happens with Brandon Ayuke. Now one other one

1064
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 2: that I think was maybe a little bit of a surprise,

1065
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 2: maybe left tackle Trent Williams, thought to be one of

1066
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 2: the better left tackles in the league. I love our guy,

1067
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,439
Speaker 2: but man, if we didn't have Larry Tunzel, I wanted

1068
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 2: Trent Williams.

1069
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 4: I really did. Trent Williams is.

1070
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 2: Not reported to training camp due to contract related reasons.

1071
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 2: Williams has no guaranteed money left on a six year

1072
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 2: deal he signed with the nine Ers in twenty twenty one,

1073
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 2: so his contract situation apparently is similar to Christian McCaffrey's.

1074
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 4: The forty nine Ers restructured his this offseason.

1075
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 2: So Trent Williams is like, YO, hook me up. It's

1076
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 2: thirty six years old. He's still a study. He is

1077
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: still a study. He was first team All Pro last

1078
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 2: year for the third time.

1079
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 4: He was completely.

1080
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 2: Underrated in Washington. They did not They did not treat

1081
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 2: him like the left tackle that he is. He went

1082
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 2: to forty nine Ers and the forty nine Ers realize

1083
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: what they've got with Trean Williams. So we'll see what

1084
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 2: this means. But Williams did not report to camp.

1085
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 4: Now I you did. Williams did want to hold in,

1086
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 4: want to hold out? Uh, And that's two players.

1087
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 2: Those are two players the Tights, the Tights the forty

1088
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 2: nine ers would really love to have.

1089
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 4: So we'll see what ends up happening.

1090
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 3: Uh.

1091
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 4: There you got Jordan Love still.

1092
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 2: Holding in in Green Bay. Diana Resinis today said, oh,

1093
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: they'll get it done.

1094
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 1: In a few weeks.

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Speaker 4: A few weeks, Holy cow, get that thing done. Packers.

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Speaker 4: I'd like to see Jordan Love uh at his best.

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Speaker 4: So you've got Trent.

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Speaker 2: Williams holding out, you got brand Ow you holding in,

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Speaker 2: you got Jordan Love holding in.

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Speaker 4: You follow that and.

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Speaker 2: The Texans will play well, they'll play Love. They won't

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Speaker 2: play the forty nine ers. If the Texans are playing

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Speaker 2: the forty nine ers this year, it's the greatest thing

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Speaker 2: that's ever happened to Houston football. That would be fantastic

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Speaker 2: because that would mean they're in the super Bowl in

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Speaker 2: New Orleans. So that's a long ways away. We're not

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Speaker 2: gonna worry about that. We're gonna focus on what's in

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Speaker 2: front of us. And tomorrow it's a day off. That's

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Speaker 2: the focus. Go get your body right, go to your

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Speaker 2: mind right, get away from it for a little bit

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Speaker 2: and rejuvenate before two days on Friday Saturday, before another

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Speaker 2: day off on Sunday. Then you go Monday, Tuesday, travel

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Speaker 2: day to Canton, Baby, and it's Hall of Fame game

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Speaker 2: at that point. So it's gonna move pretty fast here

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Speaker 2: in these next few days. Can't wait for the day

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Speaker 2: off tomorrow. We all could use a day off, but

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Speaker 2: no day off for US Texas Training Camp Live from

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Speaker 2: eight to ten and then we'll have Texans All Access

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Speaker 2: from six to seven pm as we always do.

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Speaker 4: We'll see then everybody.

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Speaker 2: A big thanks to Mark, big thanks to Mike Quinn

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Speaker 2: and to all of you for listening.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much. We'll see tomorrow as always of

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Speaker 4: Texans