Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two ninety one,
Speaker 1: Episode two.
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Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 1: into America share consciousness. And It's Wednesday, June fourteenth, twenty
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Miles, We're thrilled to be joined in our
Speaker 1: third seat, yes by a very talented TV writer, podcaster, comedian, essayist.
Speaker 1: Do you know her from podcasts like Private Parts? Unknown
Speaker 1: for essays and writings have been published in a little
Speaker 1: places like The Washington Post, Stay, La Times, Ever heard
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Speaker 2: Please welcome the hilarious, the talented Courtney Cosa Copa. What's up, Courtney.
Speaker 5: Great to be here, guys, Thanks for that amazing intro.
Speaker 2: Great to have you starting to work in Yeah something
Speaker 2: make it easy to intro you with verve. What's new? Yeah,
Speaker 2: what's going on?
Speaker 5: What's new? I'm addicted to making podcasts. I have like
Speaker 5: three podcasts right now.
Speaker 2: There you go. So that's busy. Yeah? Nice? What else
Speaker 2: we got? Private parts unknown. What else we're working.
Speaker 5: On The Bleeders, about book writing and publishing, and then
Speaker 5: a very meta podcast about podcasting called podcast Bestie.
Speaker 2: Wait, how's it met at? Wait? What's what's meta about it?
Speaker 5: Well, I mean I'm like teaching people how to produce
Speaker 5: and podcast.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's fun. It's a really it's turning into a
Speaker 5: lovely little community.
Speaker 2: That's the fun thing about podcasting that I never expected
Speaker 2: from like every other medium I've worked in, was just
Speaker 2: how quickly people like are just become like like minded
Speaker 2: or just create a community.
Speaker 5: And you're like, oh my, look at you' all totally
Speaker 5: and I'm so flattered just to know the people that
Speaker 5: are listening. They're all so delightful.
Speaker 2: So yeah, they're so great. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Asking our listeners to like tell us their jobs has
Speaker 1: been pretty mind blowing because they're just like crazy impressive,
Speaker 1: like wild shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got hit up by a teacher from the UK. Wow,
Speaker 2: Like I want to talk about their I'm like, what
Speaker 2: we got?
Speaker 3: It?
Speaker 5: Is it different?
Speaker 1: Are they debunking the myths from the pink flets on
Speaker 1: the wall?
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean it's it's such a yeah, it's
Speaker 2: always it's always a nice you know, pleasant part of
Speaker 2: doing this kind of stuff. Like That's why I think
Speaker 2: it's important for people to just create whatever they want
Speaker 2: to because there's people will always be picking up what
Speaker 2: you're putting down on some find your people. All right, Courtney,
Speaker 2: we're going to get to know you a little bit
Speaker 2: better in a moment. First, a few of the things
Speaker 2: we're talking about in today's episode. By the time you
Speaker 2: hear this, Trump will have been arraigned. In the lead
Speaker 2: up to the arraignment, he could not find a single
Speaker 2: lawyer or to add to his team. He was looking
Speaker 2: for a Florida lawyer who had some expertise in this
Speaker 2: national security stuff and got a lot of no thank
Speaker 2: you from them.
Speaker 1: So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about people keep
Speaker 1: saying the Republicans might have to the Republican Party might
Speaker 1: have to step in, or they might have to do
Speaker 1: something about this, and I don't know what that looks like,
Speaker 1: even like potentially what they think that looks like. So
Speaker 1: I just want to kind of talk through that. Finally,
Speaker 1: gen Z is killing an industry, So we want to
Speaker 1: congratulate them. They got their their first body. They caught
Speaker 1: their first body, and as elder millennials, you know, Congress,
Speaker 1: CONGRATU welcome to say welcome uh. And we might even
Speaker 1: get into some Garth Brooks probably one of the most
Speaker 1: popular artists that I think about the but other other
Speaker 1: than his Facebook live video where he announced, well, it's official,
Speaker 1: We're on Facebook, which is one of my favorite works
Speaker 1: of media of the past like three decades.
Speaker 2: And I saw everything everywhere an I did. This is true.
Speaker 1: This is just one of the most surreal performances of
Speaker 1: humanity that I've ever witnessed. But so his politics are
Speaker 1: interesting because he's in the country music world, and so
Speaker 1: you get a lot of shit for just being like
Speaker 1: three clicks to the left of fascism, and so there's
Speaker 1: just been a lot of culture wars around him doing
Speaker 1: very down the middle stuff like serving bud light at
Speaker 1: his new bar. So we're just gonna talk about the
Speaker 1: politics of Garth Brooks slash Chris Gaines because he's been
Speaker 1: hitting the Chris Gaines might come out of hiding with
Speaker 1: the swoop hair and everything.
Speaker 2: Swoop hair. Oh man, that was a sick look. Oh man.
Speaker 1: That was the SNL where you know it was hosted
Speaker 1: by Garth Brooks and the musical guest was Chris Gaines.
Speaker 1: That has one of my top ten sketches of all
Speaker 1: time in terms of the space that it takes up.
Speaker 2: The Devil, The Devil one, Yeah, the Devil. That's from an.
Speaker 1: Episode where he does the monologue as Garth Brooks and
Speaker 1: teases musical guest Chris Gaines will be with us later on.
Speaker 2: So yeah, sold his soul for days. I hate mine days.
Speaker 2: Oh fun of a bitch. The guitar was out of tune. Yeah,
Speaker 2: one of the best, one of the best.
Speaker 1: Before we get to any of that ship, Courtney, we
Speaker 1: do like to ask our guests, what is something from
Speaker 1: your search history.
Speaker 5: I watched Shiny Happy People, so I looked up, is
Speaker 5: Jill Duggar estranged from her family and looks like the answers?
Speaker 2: Yes, which was okay. So this is documentary about the
Speaker 2: Duggers who had what a TLC show? Is that where
Speaker 2: their show was originally at.
Speaker 5: Like seventeen and counting eighteen, and you know, it's like
Speaker 5: they kept having more kids, so the number kept going up.
Speaker 5: And I didn't think I was gonna you know, I
Speaker 5: wasn't like a fan. I didn't watch a show all
Speaker 5: the time, right, I was just desperate for something to
Speaker 5: watch because I feel like the offerings lately have gotten
Speaker 5: slim pickens. Yeah, but yeah, the documentary is crazy. And
Speaker 5: Jill is one of the older girls that suffered abuse
Speaker 5: at her brother's hands, and I think, but it was
Speaker 5: so nice to see her like gain her voice through
Speaker 5: this documentary.
Speaker 2: Oh gotcha. So how many so of these kids? How
Speaker 2: many are estranged? Like from the family? Is she like
Speaker 2: the only one who's like this is bad? Y'all? Like
Speaker 2: I'm I'm off this.
Speaker 5: I think the older girls. I think at least two
Speaker 5: or three of the older girls, right, yeah, So.
Speaker 1: The abuser was the one of the.
Speaker 2: Older sons, the oldest son, Yeah, the oldest son. And
Speaker 2: then did the parents like stick by him or what happened?
Speaker 5: Yeah? They just keep trying to cover up his stuff
Speaker 5: and to protect the industry of their family.
Speaker 2: Too, right, yeah, right, And the girls had.
Speaker 5: To go on, Yeah, they had to go on and
Speaker 5: talk to Megan Kelly about the abuse like it was
Speaker 5: no big deal. It's I highly recommend watching it. It's great.
Speaker 2: What is it on?
Speaker 5: Uh? Amazon Prime?
Speaker 2: Got it? Got it? Got it Amazon. I've heard of them.
Speaker 2: I think I think they do good work.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Yeah, they hire a lot of people, a
Speaker 1: lot their job creator creators. All those people should be
Speaker 1: thankful that they have jobs. Those jobs wouldn't be there
Speaker 1: otherwise they'd be starving if it weren't for Jeff Bezos's
Speaker 1: singular genius. What is something, Courtney that you think is overrated?
Speaker 5: Well, I just opened a student loan bill this morning,
Speaker 5: so I was reminded about college and how I still
Speaker 5: owe eight thousand dollars and how I'm probably going to
Speaker 5: go into my forties and still owe money. So I
Speaker 5: feel different. I feel scammed.
Speaker 2: What to you was like at the time, right when
Speaker 2: you were on the precipice of taking on this debt?
Speaker 2: What was in your mind? Did you have any foresight
Speaker 2: or was just kind of like, I don't know, everyone's
Speaker 2: fucking doing it.
Speaker 5: So no, I didn't want to go because I was
Speaker 5: going to be an actor too, and I wasn't I
Speaker 5: was wildly delusional, but I wasn't so delusional that I
Speaker 5: thought like, oh, the best way to do this is
Speaker 5: by going to college, you know. But my parents were like,
Speaker 5: you know, this is so important, and the thing is
Speaker 5: I love taking classes, like I still take writing classes
Speaker 5: to this day. But I feel like colleges are just
Speaker 5: for real real estate holdings. Yes, it's so indirect, like
Speaker 5: how the teachers get paid in everything, So anyway, scam.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you studied theater or acting? Is that what
Speaker 2: you want to Yeah? Yeah, I mean, yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: My thing was like, I'll study history because my backup
Speaker 2: will be to be a teacher. So at least, if,
Speaker 2: like with all else fails, at least I have like
Speaker 2: a degree in something I can be like and I
Speaker 2: want to teach that, so fuck it, like let's go
Speaker 2: with it. But yeah, I totally get that. Part of
Speaker 2: me was like, what am I going to do with
Speaker 2: this ship if I'm going to be a sick ass podcaster? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I didn't have that for it.
Speaker 1: I knew I was going to be a podcaster. I
Speaker 1: majored in podcasting and everyone was very confused because it
Speaker 1: didn't exist yet.
Speaker 5: Yeah we all knew, yeah, exactly what.
Speaker 2: It's called podcasting. Dad. Colleges are like venture capital firms
Speaker 2: essentially with yes, yeah, with classes the teacher that also
Speaker 2: have classes there, which I think venture capital firms should
Speaker 2: just start offering classes and put college thank you exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 2: cannibalize them, like we'll teach you how to just fucking
Speaker 2: you know, pillage economically, financially, go ahead.
Speaker 1: That's one of those industries that millennials were supposed to
Speaker 1: have killed as colleges, right, wasn't that like a college?
Speaker 1: Don't care about colleges anymore? I thought we killed everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they is.
Speaker 2: I don't know. They still seem to be thriving.
Speaker 5: A lot of millennials went though, But I do think
Speaker 5: in our wake we hopefully put a dent in some
Speaker 5: of these.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, maybe the gen Z kids who saw
Speaker 2: their older millennial relatives are like, what the fuck is
Speaker 2: wrong with Courtin me? No way, I'd take it for like,
Speaker 2: did you have fun at le Did you have fun
Speaker 2: at least in college?
Speaker 5: I tried to get out of there as soon as possible,
Speaker 5: so I graduated. I'd taken some p SEO, some college
Speaker 5: classes in high school, and then I also went to
Speaker 5: a fast so I graduated like two years and made
Speaker 5: mistakes in other places.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course, of course he took SEO
Speaker 1: and then said PSCU.
Speaker 2: That was my account. It sounded better.
Speaker 1: It sounded like it was going to sound more like
Speaker 1: it in my head, And it didn't quite work.
Speaker 2: Out what is something that you think is underrated?
Speaker 5: So I think this ties into today's episode, but knowing
Speaker 5: exactly what's in the latest Trump indictment, and you can
Speaker 5: listen to it like an audiobook, which I did. Ali
Speaker 5: Velshi read it on the MSNBC podcast Prosecuting Donald Trump
Speaker 5: or I think that's the name of it. But it
Speaker 5: was definitely worth the hour and twelve minute listen. And
Speaker 5: I think if you're going to be in conversations with
Speaker 5: people and not know exactly what's in it, I don't.
Speaker 2: Know, inform yourself. I feel personally attacked right now, But
Speaker 2: hold on, just looked at in twelve minutes, let's let's
Speaker 2: let's take a quick break for an hour. Just the
Speaker 2: picture of the bathroom with the chandelier and the extremely
Speaker 2: low toilet, and I feel like I got it.
Speaker 5: That's all you need to see pictures.
Speaker 2: I think. Yeah, the one thing you hear a lot
Speaker 2: is mostly conservatives just conflating. It was like, well Hillary
Speaker 2: did that, and Joe Byron too, And you're like, that's
Speaker 2: not even close to the same thing. Do you even
Speaker 2: know what they did? Are you just saying that because
Speaker 2: that's what they said on Fox? But again, I think
Speaker 2: it's like the same thing where people will just watch
Speaker 2: MSNBC and be like regurgitate like a half a sentence
Speaker 2: they remember from Rachel Maddow and then you're like, are
Speaker 2: you sure what you're saying too? No, but Trump bad,
Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, you read the indictment, but you
Speaker 2: didn't read Clinton cash Okay, Wow? Interesting?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what what's something that jump that you feel
Speaker 1: like you wouldn't have otherwise known?
Speaker 5: Well, I didn't know. I mean the what's the code
Speaker 5: defendant's name, Walton Nada. Yeah, his whole involvement and just
Speaker 5: how illegal. Trump knew everything that he was doing was
Speaker 5: totally illegal and was just like playing cat and mouse
Speaker 5: with these documents, and it's like, that's some of the
Speaker 5: charges are just that, and it's obvious that he knew, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's direct quotes from him being like, well, what
Speaker 1: if we broke this law.
Speaker 2: Let's let's try breaking down.
Speaker 5: I'm showing you this. It's totally secret.
Speaker 2: You shouldn't look, but look at it. It's secret.
Speaker 5: And the aids are like, oh wow, this is a problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Favorite line when that aid is like so, and
Speaker 2: then I think he responds He's like, well, I guess
Speaker 2: there's that then, like Trump says something in response to
Speaker 2: the aid being like this is a problem, and he's like, well,
Speaker 2: I guess we've got to figure that out then, and
Speaker 2: it's just kind of like.
Speaker 1: It reads like some fucking modern family. Yeah, that's my
Speaker 1: favorite Trump. It's the same gear of after he delivered
Speaker 1: the COVID address anyway okay, yeah, okay, was.
Speaker 4: Being recorded and he's just like, it's not like he
Speaker 4: thought this was totally being done in secret. They're like,
Speaker 4: we're recording this. Do you know that this is being recorded?
Speaker 4: He's like yeah, and then he's like, oh, we're breaking
Speaker 4: the law.
Speaker 2: Okay, oh yeah. That seems to be.
Speaker 1: Anybody who reads it or you know, listens to the
Speaker 1: whole the entire indictment, their takeaway seems to be like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's well, like he's.
Speaker 2: Actually fucked this time. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I just don't want to lose sight of I
Speaker 1: just don't I don't want to lose my cynicism and
Speaker 1: my belief that he'll still find a way.
Speaker 2: Oh he will, he will get out of this. I
Speaker 2: think I'm just going to live in that because I
Speaker 2: would rather have the shock of my fucking life than
Speaker 2: even be like, I don't know, y'all, let's rub our
Speaker 2: mits together. I'm like, they always figure it out. They're
Speaker 2: going to figure it out, whether it's this judge or whatever,
Speaker 2: and then we'll just kick the can and then they'll
Speaker 2: be like, I don't know, we tried, folks, I don't know,
Speaker 2: vote Trump for president whatever.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just it's so dangerous this time. It's like
Speaker 5: if you've seen an episode of The Americans, like there
Speaker 5: were for sure spies in the bathroom.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they kept catching spot do you remember, Like
Speaker 1: we kept talking about these stories where they'd be like,
Speaker 1: like a Chinese national who has ties to like their
Speaker 1: intelligence apparatus. Yeah, was caught like trying to enter mar
Speaker 1: A Lago. And at the time we were like like,
Speaker 1: do they just think they're going to like overhear him
Speaker 1: like saying stuff, and it's like, oh no, he was
Speaker 1: just look at the bathroom. They just had to ask
Speaker 1: to use the restroom.
Speaker 2: But but don't look at any of the boxes. Promise
Speaker 2: me that if you're going poop poo in there, don't
Speaker 2: look in the boxes. I mean there's even like that
Speaker 2: woman who like pretended to be like a rothschild and
Speaker 2: like hung out with him, and you're like, well, y'all,
Speaker 2: are you serious. It's the most low energy scammers pulling
Speaker 2: up in there. Imagine like a trained person with like,
Speaker 2: you know, functional knowledge of spycraft, and you're like you're
Speaker 2: in there and being like, oh, yeah, I'm here to
Speaker 2: repair the blah blah blah or whatever. You get a
Speaker 2: fake ass mar al Lago uniform. But it's funny to
Speaker 2: hear how many Republicans are like that place has secret service.
Speaker 2: There's no way that someone could just waltz up in there,
Speaker 2: and all you have are stories of people just waltzing
Speaker 2: up in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Secret Service looking just completely like like, I
Speaker 1: feel like Trump was the first president who didn't age
Speaker 1: like a president, but anybody who worked around him or
Speaker 1: was like trying to protect him from himself aged like
Speaker 1: a president. I think they were just aged like it
Speaker 1: was the final scene of Raiders.
Speaker 2: Of the Lost Ark.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, all right, well we're gonna keep talking
Speaker 1: about this. Let's take a quick break and we'll be
Speaker 1: right back.
Speaker 2: And we're back. We're back. So yeah, as we.
Speaker 1: Were mentioning before the break, does seem like the fallout
Speaker 1: from this one and the specifics of the indictment seemed
Speaker 1: to be like he is on wax, being like, we're
Speaker 1: breaking the law. You know, the fact that his co
Speaker 1: defendant is one of his lawyers, I think is not
Speaker 1: helping his ability to hire new lawyers in this case,
Speaker 1: because as he was preparing to be arraigned on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: he spent you know, the twenty four hours before scrambling
Speaker 1: to find more lawyers and came up empty. So he's
Speaker 1: going to be represented by his two existing lawyers. After quote,
Speaker 1: several attorneys declined to take him as a client. He
Speaker 1: was trying to get a local Florida lawyer as well
Speaker 1: as someone with national security expertise that could help help
Speaker 1: him navigate the Espionage Act charges, and everyone was like no,
Speaker 1: thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he's the worst fucking client to have.
Speaker 2: One of his other lawyers who resigned just was basically like,
Speaker 2: it's not good to defend someone when there are other
Speaker 2: influences at play. Was there a very cryptic explanation and
Speaker 2: you're like, okay, like, yeah, I don't even know what
Speaker 2: the fuck that means. I can only imagine I'll assume
Speaker 2: the worst about that, But yeah, you add to that,
Speaker 2: just how fucking severe the case is, and people are like, oh, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, like, I guess if you want me to like,
Speaker 2: I'd rather not take the el soo publicly defending you
Speaker 2: on this.
Speaker 1: Lawyers who have turned him down and like have said anonymously,
Speaker 1: but they're like, first of all, he's a notoriously difficult client.
Speaker 1: Being any in any way associated with him could cause
Speaker 1: reputational damage. And also the strength of the indictment is
Speaker 1: unfuck withable. It's he clearly is like openly, clearly flagrant
Speaker 1: breaking law, the laws that he's being accused of breaking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again on tape. It's not even it's not
Speaker 2: even like refutable some stuff. It's like, uh, here's exhibit A.
Speaker 2: This is when he's like it's secret, nope, peeking. But
Speaker 2: also look at it. I'm the present or I was. Look,
Speaker 2: I could have declassified it, but I can't now because
Speaker 2: I'm no longer the president. This is therefore classified information
Speaker 2: you were looking at. Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's way
Speaker 2: too much.
Speaker 1: So when you hear people say he's really like legally
Speaker 1: he's fucked on this one or anybody else. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think the follow up is often like the Republican Party
Speaker 1: might have to step in because otherwise they're going to
Speaker 1: have a you know, nominee for president who is running
Speaker 1: from prison or like might soon be facing prison time.
Speaker 1: And I just still have not heard a single concrete
Speaker 1: explanation for like what they think that means to like
Speaker 1: save him too. I think I mean step in and
Speaker 1: like get him out of the presidential race.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, Yeah, I think that when people say that,
Speaker 2: they're missing a really crucial part of their analysis of
Speaker 2: what even the Republicans are. Yeah, because basically they've the
Speaker 2: ship has set sail with what they can do or
Speaker 2: not do, because the second they let Trump take over
Speaker 2: the base and not push back on his steady radicalization
Speaker 2: of the base, like and everyone's like, this thing's gonna
Speaker 2: get away from y'all. Better be careful, it's gonna get
Speaker 2: away from y'all. It's gotten away from them now. And
Speaker 2: so basically everyone's kissed the ring in the Republican Party.
Speaker 2: So they're all they're basically signed up for all the
Speaker 2: bullshit that comes along with it. That's why you only
Speaker 2: have like tepid sort of like distancing from Senate Republicans
Speaker 2: or like it looks bad but like he needs to
Speaker 2: go to prison. This is fucked up, like it's short
Speaker 2: of that. Like, the most they can do is be like, objectively,
Speaker 2: this looks like a bad legal case and it ends there.
Speaker 2: And so because of that, Trump has now completely he's
Speaker 2: he's taken over the party, and so he is the party.
Speaker 2: So there's no way the idea that they could do
Speaker 2: something like you'd have to presume that Trump was operating
Speaker 2: on the outside and that already that the party is
Speaker 2: not already in service to every of like all of
Speaker 2: his desires. So I don't I think from if you
Speaker 2: look at it like that, there is nothing they can
Speaker 2: do because they've just become part of him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what if the mass said like this is illegal,
Speaker 5: but he should be in prison, that.
Speaker 2: Would be wild.
Speaker 1: That'd be wild, and it probably I mean, but it
Speaker 1: might his feelings enough for him to like run as
Speaker 1: an independent candidate. But I don't know that it would
Speaker 1: like that they can do anything, like you can't prevent
Speaker 1: him from running as a Republican.
Speaker 2: I don't think, yeah, well I would they. I think, what, like, right,
Speaker 2: let's let's presume all the Senate Republicans are like they were, like,
Speaker 2: you know what, this is a bridge too far. He
Speaker 2: broke the laws. He has to go, he has to
Speaker 2: answer for his crimes. This is indefensible, and we like,
Speaker 2: as far as we're concerned, we want nothing to do
Speaker 2: with Donald Trumps as a politician or anything. But what
Speaker 2: happened is the base would just go, these people are
Speaker 2: fucking rhinos and fuck them and then that's it. That's
Speaker 2: where it ends, you know, like there's no there's no
Speaker 2: second layer of an or like they're not gonna think
Speaker 2: past that because again, Trump just embodies like white grievance
Speaker 2: politics in its most potent form, and there's nothing you
Speaker 2: can do to like change that, because unless you like
Speaker 2: address the ideological shortcomings of their like white grievance politics,
Speaker 2: they're just gonna go further down this hole. Because everything's
Speaker 2: in service of we're losing our spot, our influence, we're
Speaker 2: having to seed, like we're having to acknowledge other people's
Speaker 2: existence and be more inclusive. They don't want to do
Speaker 2: with any of that, so they're just gonna go further
Speaker 2: and further and just go like, I don't know this guy, fine,
Speaker 2: I don't care if he kills people, because at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, we're like here for this very intellectually,
Speaker 2: you know, sad like argument. It's hard to see how
Speaker 2: they change unless they have a real shift. And that's
Speaker 2: just I think that's that didn't happen.
Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't want him to be the nominee
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, and they weren't able to stop him then,
Speaker 1: and now he has so much more of a hold
Speaker 1: over the Republican Party, Like I guess their reasons for
Speaker 1: wanting to stop him are stronger now, or at least,
Speaker 1: like you could make the case in a mainstream media
Speaker 1: news article that he is like not a candidate who
Speaker 1: should be eligible for office, but that is not going
Speaker 1: to resonate at all, Like it presumes that the Republican
Speaker 1: Party has the same control as the Democratic Party, Like
Speaker 1: the Democrats were able to step in and be like,
Speaker 1: well it can't be Bernie Sanders, right, Like, no one's
Speaker 1: going to vote for him in the general.
Speaker 2: So it's like, well, what about all these millions of
Speaker 2: people that support him. We'll figure that out. We'll figure
Speaker 2: it out.
Speaker 1: Like, but the Democratic Party, like the Democratic base like
Speaker 1: inherently actually listens to the mainstream media, like and so
Speaker 1: you know, he won a single primary, Sanders want a
Speaker 1: single primary, and then the mainstream media went into full
Speaker 1: panic like electability ship, and then you know, it was
Speaker 1: basically over because that's that is a voice that the
Speaker 1: main that the Democratic voting base listens to, whereas Trump
Speaker 1: voters don't take like they don't listen to the mainstream
Speaker 1: media at all, and in fact, like if the mainstream
Speaker 1: media tells them something, they will you know, be less
Speaker 1: likely to believe it, which just it makes me think
Speaker 1: like in a much stranger we have like a much
Speaker 1: stranger next year in front of us than people are
Speaker 1: acknowledging because he is. I don't think his power is
Speaker 1: going anywhere. There's this idea that to say is going
Speaker 1: to come in and like save the Republican Party from
Speaker 1: Trump and like or that these indictments or you know,
Speaker 1: eventual convictions are going to come in and save the
Speaker 1: country from Trump, and I just don't think any of
Speaker 1: those things are going to work at all, and might,
Speaker 1: in fact, like give him more power with his base,
Speaker 1: which who like you said, it's like a combination of
Speaker 1: like racism and like martyrdom, like that is a really
Speaker 1: powerful combination for his base.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, all all fucking dictators do the victimization. Shit, sure, no,
Speaker 2: they all do because that when you say that to
Speaker 2: your crowd, then you have basically, in their mind implanted,
Speaker 2: Now y'all have to defend me because I'm a victim.
Speaker 2: Y'all fuck with me, right, I'm a victim, So what's up?
Speaker 2: And they will all say that's you're right, that's fucked up.
Speaker 2: We need to defend you, and that's all he's bringing out.
Speaker 2: Listen to the fucking defenses though from some of these Republicans,
Speaker 2: because they don't even make sense, like this, how far
Speaker 2: down the road we are with like other things that
Speaker 2: can be like it was a perfect call whatever we're
Speaker 2: talking about trainscripts where he knows what he's doing is
Speaker 2: fucking illegal, right, Like this is Jim Jordan talking to
Speaker 2: Dana Bash on CNN. He like he didn't even know
Speaker 2: what to say when she's like, but he's on tape
Speaker 2: and he's such like fucking melting.
Speaker 3: Clarice says, point blank on tape, as president, I could
Speaker 3: have declassified it. Now I can't, he says, in his
Speaker 3: own words, it's on tape as part of this indictment
Speaker 3: that he did not declassify the material.
Speaker 7: Therefore it is saying he saying he could have. Saying
Speaker 7: he could have is not the same as saying he didn't.
Speaker 7: He said, now I can't classify this material. He said
Speaker 7: that meant now he can't write right because he's not
Speaker 7: president now.
Speaker 2: But when he was what means he did delassify.
Speaker 3: He said that, which means that what he was holding
Speaker 3: was classific.
Speaker 7: Not not when he's not, not if he not, if
Speaker 7: he declassified it when he was president United States for.
Speaker 3: Good, But he's saying in this audio tape that he
Speaker 3: did not declassify it. It's what you're saying just doesn't
Speaker 3: make sense on its face exactly.
Speaker 1: And he's even like fucked, come on, Yeah, he has
Speaker 1: a smile on his face that is.
Speaker 2: Like, what do you want me to do?
Speaker 3: Yah?
Speaker 2: You caught me lying, you caught me lying? Okay, fine?
Speaker 2: Or then like here's Kevin McCarthy who, when asked, you're like, yo,
Speaker 2: this is a bad like you're saying, this is a
Speaker 2: bad look, right, This is what fucking Kevin McCarthy said.
Speaker 3: Was that a good look for the former president to
Speaker 3: have boxes in a bathroom?
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Is it a good picture to have boxes in a
Speaker 2: garage that opens up all the time.
Speaker 7: A bathroom door.
Speaker 2: Locks, oh yes, oh yeah, because he's I know, he's
Speaker 2: serious about it. I could roll up to any garage
Speaker 2: door right now and just open that ship, just pull
Speaker 2: up and just because they're unlocked. I'm like, is what
Speaker 2: you know, like the lock for a bathroom is it
Speaker 2: for the in case the documents want to have privacy
Speaker 2: while they're taking the ship right what like anyway and
Speaker 2: you can pick them from the outside. They're like they're
Speaker 2: made to be like, hey, even if you lock it
Speaker 2: from the inside errantly, you can still get into the
Speaker 2: bathroom because there are ways to just disengage the door
Speaker 2: handle locks. So they're at this thing where it's like
Speaker 2: they're just saying things are there that aren't or these
Speaker 2: really half assed answers. And I think the only way
Speaker 2: that honestly you would see any kind of real reaction
Speaker 2: is you have to go against like one of the
Speaker 2: two tenants of the United States. It's white supremacy or capitalism. Right,
Speaker 2: So unless Trump I don't and again I've always said
Speaker 2: as a thought experiment, it would be wild to see
Speaker 2: if Trump could even break that barrier and be like,
Speaker 2: what we've got to do is take what we got
Speaker 2: to redistribute all of this wealth and give it to
Speaker 2: you guys. Yeah, and people be like, yeah, then would
Speaker 2: we see the reflexes of this country, the natural reflexes
Speaker 2: of this country kick in where they're like that shit
Speaker 2: ain't happening every right, And then you see all the
Speaker 2: fucking networks get lockstep and be like this guy's bad
Speaker 2: or just like stop talking about it, because, like you say, Jack,
Speaker 2: like all the time, like there is a instinct within
Speaker 2: the United States to reject anything that isn't going along
Speaker 2: with like hyper capitalism. Yeah, and I think that's the
Speaker 2: only potential third rail I could see.
Speaker 1: But they're definitely allergic to anything that is even suggests socialism.
Speaker 1: But I mean just to like, I don't think like
Speaker 1: a lot of people are, like the media was out
Speaker 1: in full force at his arraignment, and people are like,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be the next January sixth, and I
Speaker 1: think like as of now, which I think I think
Speaker 1: the arrangement, like as we're recording this just happened, people
Speaker 1: were saying that like the media outnumbered protesters, Like it
Speaker 1: does seem like there is in New York, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: They said in Miami oh, I'm not looking at it
Speaker 2: right now. There's a lot of mockers out there, Oh
Speaker 2: there is, ok, Oh yeah, yeah, I mean it's Florida.
Speaker 2: Like it's different. That's the thing is, like New York
Speaker 2: isn't going to have the same crop of people who
Speaker 2: are willing to like call in sick to go down
Speaker 2: to a court house, you know, than Florida is. Like there's,
Speaker 2: like I said yesterday in like a trending episode, there's
Speaker 2: the Florida of it all with this case too, that
Speaker 2: will have ramifications with the jury and whatever shit might
Speaker 2: take place outside of the courthouse.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like for just for a worst case scenario,
Speaker 1: like we've got Carrie Lake, who lost in Arizona last
Speaker 1: year in the in the midterms, saying if they want
Speaker 1: to come for or like indict Trump, have to come
Speaker 1: through me and seventy five million other Americans and most
Speaker 1: of us are card carrying members of the NRA, which
Speaker 1: is like, that's pretty clearly a call to like civil war.
Speaker 1: She also like was like and to anyone who comes
Speaker 1: to his arrangement should like protest peacefully. But like, I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure the implication of what she's saying is like
Speaker 1: that we're going to start a second civil war, and
Speaker 1: so like in the face of that, just the idea
Speaker 1: that like the Republican Party could do anything like what
Speaker 1: they're going to like give to Santa's like more TV
Speaker 1: ads or like give him extra fifteen seconds in the debates.
Speaker 2: It's not a party, though, I think we just have
Speaker 2: to stop talking about it as a party. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: an autocratic organization within the United States, and like all
Speaker 2: they do is just defer to the head, which is
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, and the few people that don't they just leave.
Speaker 2: And that's only like a couple. Yeah, and I think
Speaker 2: there's also there. Jamel Booy had this op ed in
Speaker 2: the New York Times who talks about sort of like
Speaker 2: this paradoxical relationship that Republicans have and other people and
Speaker 2: organizations that are in distress have where you don't necessarily
Speaker 2: shed a ton of people because there are some people
Speaker 2: who think, well, I better stay to keep it from
Speaker 2: being worse. And that's why you get these like weird,
Speaker 2: mealy mouthed Senate Republicans or are like, well it looks bad,
Speaker 2: but then are like Rah rah voting to like not
Speaker 2: certify the election and shit like and you know it's
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it's all having to do
Speaker 2: with the fact that they've once only sixteen happened. It
Speaker 2: was just a rap, you know, Everyone's like, do they've
Speaker 2: opened Pandora's box and this is what's happened? Like, it's
Speaker 2: not They're not going to be able to move to
Speaker 2: the fucking whatever cent, whatever the center is anymore. Yeah,
Speaker 2: without something serious happening. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Maybe, though, I mean, I hate to sound like such
Speaker 5: a Pollyanna, but the most of the Republicans, I mean
Speaker 5: of the Republicans, I know, I feel like they're more
Speaker 5: like business Republicans and have no desire to vote for him.
Speaker 2: You know, sure did they vote for him the first time?
Speaker 5: I don't know exactly.
Speaker 2: That's always my question. It's not always still friends with
Speaker 2: them because you don't know that part. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't know the first part, but I didn't interrogate
Speaker 5: it too hard.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, yeah, I just so, I don't think
Speaker 1: that there's going to be these January sixth style like
Speaker 1: insurrections happening because people got so fucked over and his
Speaker 1: response was just like grifted on their behalf. So I
Speaker 1: do feel like there's less energy for that. But I
Speaker 1: just I think like we're obviously like it's everyone in
Speaker 1: the mainstream media is like, this is uncharted territory because
Speaker 1: a former president.
Speaker 2: Is being indicted.
Speaker 1: But like, I just have no idea, like where we like,
Speaker 1: what does the twenty twenty four election look like? It's
Speaker 1: gonna be so fucking strange?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it could be. That's why it's And again
Speaker 2: we know what Trump said, if he wins, he's not
Speaker 2: going anywhere. Yeah, he said, I'll never leave. And you know,
Speaker 2: he already tested defenses in his first administration and realized,
Speaker 2: oh shit, okay, I need more flunkies, Like I'm gonna
Speaker 2: have to purge half the people who are career employees
Speaker 2: of the government because those are the people that ended
Speaker 2: up interrupting the Like, those are the nodes in the
Speaker 2: system that ended up stopping the fuckery at certain points
Speaker 2: rather than making it fully smooth sailing. And to know
Speaker 2: that his whole because again, he's just running to get
Speaker 2: out of prison, so that's all it is. Like it's
Speaker 2: like it's like a race to the fucking election. So
Speaker 2: he'd be like, either I gotta win or maybe the
Speaker 2: hommy can win and pardon me, but that's it, like
Speaker 2: has nothing to do with anything else. And and you know,
Speaker 2: well the country will start me it's already fucked up.
Speaker 2: But it's like, what, what is like the voting day
Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty four presidential election going to look
Speaker 2: like like there's going to be people with guns at
Speaker 2: every fucking ballot place. Like it's truly just so dystopians.
Speaker 2: They're going to be at least one hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: feet outside of them. They're not going to get one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty feet where the police will high five
Speaker 2: them and occasionally let them aim their guns at the
Speaker 2: other people.
Speaker 1: You too, And then yeah, all right, well very strange times.
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and
Speaker 1: talk about gen Z. And we're back, and finally gen
Speaker 1: Z is getting caught a body, blood on their hands,
Speaker 1: blood on their hands. They're killing booze sales at concerts.
Speaker 5: Woo.
Speaker 2: I just love that that finally we have our head
Speaker 2: first or I don't know, at least from my memory,
Speaker 2: a first, gen Z is killing blank industry. But yeah,
Speaker 2: they said something like there's an article on Billboard that
Speaker 2: was saying that like some of these like club operators
Speaker 2: are seeing like twenty five percent declines in booz sales
Speaker 2: at shows that are aimed at gen Z audiences. But
Speaker 2: this is a trend we've talked about for a while,
Speaker 2: like and it's been documented since the early adds, Like
Speaker 2: college kids are drinking less and smoking more weed.
Speaker 1: That's just everybody is it really is like everyone is
Speaker 1: now yeah, Like I don't know why we're blaming gen Z.
Speaker 1: It's just now we have for me, right, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: the edibles and we have psilocybin and like what you
Speaker 1: know that are much easier to get. Like you used
Speaker 1: to need like to know somebody's older brother who's a
Speaker 1: drug dealer to get mushrooms now quick. Now they have
Speaker 1: some dispensaries, so like hey we got mushrooms on the low,
Speaker 1: just so you know anyway, But yeah, like then it's funny,
Speaker 1: like there is one analyst in this article. They pointed
Speaker 1: out quote.
Speaker 2: They're either eating edibles before they come or there's more
Speaker 2: of a sober like mental health focus. It's like their
Speaker 2: fucking analysis. And I think what's interesting is that gen
Speaker 2: Z is definitely more mindful than their older peers. Like
Speaker 2: we've seen that across the board from like their their
Speaker 2: own sense of self and like what their values are.
Speaker 2: But also this was wild. Twenty one percent of gen
Speaker 2: Z like consumers have bought non alcoholic beer in the
Speaker 2: last twelve months. Wow. To me, that is really indicative
Speaker 2: of where they're at, because like when I was in
Speaker 2: my twenties, I think I bought non alcoholic beer once
Speaker 2: and it was to prank one of our friends that
Speaker 2: we nicknamed the Bastard. Just to give you an idea
Speaker 2: of like what the dynamics we plate there. Oh man,
Speaker 2: So I think there is something to that. But I
Speaker 2: think overall, like with all these articles, they always they're
Speaker 2: missing the point when it's like millennials are killing the
Speaker 2: diamond industry. It's like, no, we don't have diamond money,
Speaker 2: right and right now, if you go out, have you
Speaker 2: tried to buy alcohol at a sports or music venue,
Speaker 2: that shit is like five xd like pricing, So you
Speaker 2: know it is what it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just charging more because they're selling less essentially.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I think they also like they don't
Speaker 2: really make mention of the sacred ritual of young broke
Speaker 2: kids the pregame, right, and when I didn't have like
Speaker 2: going out to drink money, I would get fucked up
Speaker 2: at home and then go out because I know i'd
Speaker 2: have to buy any alcohol when I was out. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll just bring a like flat bottle of vodka with me,
Speaker 2: Like yeah, like you fashioned? Why no?
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: It's like I went to like a dive bar once
Speaker 1: with about it just to like save money.
Speaker 2: Oh my homie, the bastard. He would go to the
Speaker 2: bar and he would bring he would just fill up.
Speaker 2: He would do half diet coke, havelf jim bean and
Speaker 2: just kip and sip on that, and then he would
Speaker 2: go to his car and just like re up that shit.
Speaker 2: And then like they were eventually like what the fuck
Speaker 2: are you doing?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: So he would order diet coke from the bar and no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: he brought in a twenty ounce diet coke bottle with him.
Speaker 2: I was just sipping off that in like flagrant style.
Speaker 2: That's amazing. But you know, people are doing their own thing.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it's just it's true, like
Speaker 2: we're just we're finding we're having fun in our own ways.
Speaker 2: And now these like venues are like what if we
Speaker 2: sold CBD. Yeah, It's like I don't know, I don't
Speaker 2: think that's what it is. What if you lowered your prices,
Speaker 2: But again, everything's costs more. So I don't know that
Speaker 2: jibes with the business model. I mean the first time,
Speaker 2: like the first kind of deep stoner thought like I
Speaker 2: heard about like my it was like ninth grade history
Speaker 2: teacher was like, why do you think booze is legal
Speaker 2: and weed isn't. We're like, because.
Speaker 1: Weed is bad for you, you're our teacher. We're trying
Speaker 1: to and he's like, no, it's because you can grow
Speaker 1: your own weed.
Speaker 2: It's easy.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't need the government to make it
Speaker 1: for you. You don't need a corporation to make it
Speaker 1: for you, so it's harder to tax.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was like, whoa.
Speaker 1: He was also dipping the entire time we were in class.
Speaker 1: Oh shout out to Kentucky.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like so telling how capitalist The headline is, though,
Speaker 5: it's not like these gen z kids are making way
Speaker 5: healthier choices. It's like they're killing this industry.
Speaker 2: Fucking up my money is the translation. All these headlines are,
Speaker 2: this generational cohort is fucking up our money. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The only mention of mental health in this being a
Speaker 1: good thing is from the analyst who says there's more
Speaker 1: of either they're eating edibles before they come, or there's
Speaker 1: more of a sober mental health and then they had
Speaker 1: like the journalist had to add the word folks. I
Speaker 1: guess it's in like the uh parentheticals that so like
Speaker 1: he presumably said, like there's more of a sober mental
Speaker 1: health thing or thing something mental health ship, probably sober
Speaker 1: mental health ship.
Speaker 2: They're either eating I like though it's like it's like
Speaker 2: the take of like a distressed parents, Like I think
Speaker 2: they're either eating edibles before they come, or it's like
Speaker 2: sober mental health stuff, like they don't even know how
Speaker 2: to actually bring up the topic of mental health without
Speaker 2: needing the help of the journalism, or it's like sober
Speaker 2: mental health thing. Focus. Focus is the word you're looking for, sir. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but yeah, it's it's it's it's sad to see you know,
Speaker 2: less booze sales and I don't know, younger people just
Speaker 2: figuring out what's better for them and what they like rather.
Speaker 5: Than yeah, nothing to celebrate here.
Speaker 2: What are the cops going to be? Like? The gen
Speaker 2: Z's killing the dui industry, But.
Speaker 1: Won't you please think of the one giant corporation that
Speaker 1: owns every booze company like that, those are the real
Speaker 1: victims here. That's who we really need to be thinking of.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, speaking of booze and music, Garth Brooks
Speaker 1: is in the news. I guess he's like always in
Speaker 1: the news. It's just like tends to be not news
Speaker 1: that I'm paying attention to. But this dude's still selling
Speaker 1: out like fucking football stadiums.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he.
Speaker 1: Really stepped in it because he announced that his new
Speaker 1: Nashville bar will be serving bud Light, the beer like
Speaker 1: beverage and target of transphobic outrage, and people are pissed.
Speaker 1: I this is the sort of story that I feel
Speaker 1: like I might typically skip past, but I am viewing,
Speaker 1: like Courtney, we had a pop culture theorist Aisha Harris
Speaker 1: on the show yesterday, and we're talking about this idea
Speaker 1: that stand culture and like being really like devoted to
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift or like whoever your musical favorite musical artist is,
Speaker 1: or like Star Wars or these things is like the
Speaker 1: new religion, because like religion has sort of gone away
Speaker 1: for most.
Speaker 2: Young people, and so I don't I don't know.
Speaker 1: I do think that it's probably worth paying attention to
Speaker 1: when these massive, like global phenomenon artists make a decision
Speaker 1: that like infuriates their disciples and it looks like I
Speaker 1: don't know, Hey, Garth Brooks. First of all, I do
Speaker 1: want to say I think it's important context for all
Speaker 1: stories about Garth Brooks. This man has left the planet
Speaker 1: Earth permanently. There's a video where he announces that he's
Speaker 1: on Facebook Live for the first time. It's a historical
Speaker 1: document at this point. It was when like Facebook video
Speaker 1: was new. But I just want to play real quick.
Speaker 1: You guys can hear the audio. Just know that he
Speaker 1: is looking deep into the camera.
Speaker 2: Get yeah.
Speaker 1: Like it's like a combination of like seventies cult leader,
Speaker 1: like just big glassy eyes, but he's also like trying
Speaker 1: to fuck you like a cult leader.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So basically it's a cult leader.
Speaker 8: Well, I guess it's official. We're now on Facebook. I
Speaker 8: really wasn't sure about this at the start, but then
Speaker 8: a friend of mine said something that just made all
Speaker 8: kinds of sense. She said, think of it more as
Speaker 8: a conversation. I like that, but I'm already finding out
Speaker 8: on my own. So it's wiping the walls out between
Speaker 8: you and me, and I really like that it allows
Speaker 8: us into each other's worlds or gets, in my case,
Speaker 8: hotel room. I think about things I want to post.
Speaker 8: I want to post cool stuff, slick stuff.
Speaker 2: Neat stuff, slick.
Speaker 8: Yes, stuff I'm gonna post is gonna be raw stuff
Speaker 8: like this raw because it's just too I am just
Speaker 8: getting wrong.
Speaker 2: So if this is.
Speaker 8: Truly a conversation, and I say, let the conversation begin.
Speaker 5: Oh, how much did they pay him?
Speaker 2: It's so he's been talking about he's been talking about
Speaker 2: this decision with like the bud light stuff on Facebook Live. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, I mean this was the beginning of a significant
Speaker 1: shift in the cultural landscape. But he is very just
Speaker 1: I don't know, I can't imagine that's what he's actually
Speaker 1: like in person, but it's very very strange vibes being
Speaker 1: given in that video.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah.
Speaker 1: So he also revealed recently that he's itching to revive
Speaker 1: his rock alter ego, Chris Gaines, which I don't know
Speaker 1: how many people remember this, but in nineteen ninety nine
Speaker 1: he released an album under the name Chris Gaines. He
Speaker 1: had floppy bangs and no cowboy hat and just like
Speaker 1: was really all in on this character. He recently said
Speaker 1: the Games Project was a lot of time put in
Speaker 1: because it's not natural you're acting on record. But I
Speaker 1: want to do it simply for the people who love
Speaker 1: the Games Project talking about like reviving.
Speaker 2: It, people who like me wearing a wig.
Speaker 5: I think he's bringing it back because he wants to
Speaker 5: wear hair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I look, I love a wig, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? And that shit, look, it's looks so dumb.
Speaker 2: But I get how he would put the wig on him, Like, honey,
Speaker 2: get in here, look at me. Look at this guy.
Speaker 2: What do we call him? Yeah, it ain't Garth, it's man.
Speaker 2: If I had hair, I would be somebody called Chris
Speaker 2: Gaines or something like that. Okay, honey, Yeah, to wear
Speaker 2: wigs as a bit, oh yeah, it was a bit.
Speaker 2: But people who've ran into me in public, like I've somebody,
Speaker 2: y'all see me at the grocery start, They're like miles
Speaker 2: and I'm like, turn to like flopping my hair back.
Speaker 2: I'm excuse me, Hi, you must be zeitgang.
Speaker 1: Yes, men will go to any lengths to not go
Speaker 1: to therapy and instead wear a wig, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah right.
Speaker 1: Ladies cheaper too, Yeah, but yeah, so this caused, like him,
Speaker 1: his decision to serve bud Light, not his decision to
Speaker 1: maybe revive Chris Gaines, caused huge backlash from country fans,
Speaker 1: and he just doubled down and said, but inclusiveness is
Speaker 1: always going to be me. I think diversity is to
Speaker 1: the is the answer to the problems that are here
Speaker 1: and the answer to the problems that are coming. Like
Speaker 1: it feels like he's speaking like a spiritual leader, which sure,
Speaker 1: I mean he so he's always been like a step
Speaker 1: progressive for his audience. Like he won a glad Media
Speaker 1: Award for his nineteen ninety three song we Shall Be Free.
Speaker 2: Which radical.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the lyrics drop some lines by how we're free
Speaker 1: to love anyone we choose, and it was inspired by
Speaker 1: the Rodney King riots. Judging from the music video, it's
Speaker 1: also about the fall of communism all.
Speaker 5: This shit, come on, get him here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, communist cops whatever, let's all get in. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But like at that time, a lot of his fans
Speaker 1: were like fuck this, Like the country radio stations were
Speaker 1: boycotting the song, not all of his songs, but just
Speaker 1: that song. And apparently this came to a head. I
Speaker 1: think I vaguely remembered him singing the national anthem at
Speaker 1: the super Bowl, but he apparently like left the stadium
Speaker 1: forty five minutes prior to when he was supposed to
Speaker 1: go go on. He like bounced because and NBC like
Speaker 1: went and tried to get JOm bon Jovie out of
Speaker 1: the stands to.
Speaker 2: This guy's NBC wouldn't play the video, yeah.
Speaker 1: Because so he was like, you have to play this
Speaker 1: music video about like my we Shall Be Free song,
Speaker 1: and NBC was like, it's too dark, Garth. It's it's dark, Garth.
Speaker 1: We want light, Garth. We want friends in low places.
Speaker 1: And he was like, I'm walking, And so he left
Speaker 1: the fucking football stadium where the super Bowl was being
Speaker 1: held forty five minutes before and then and they couldn't
Speaker 1: they couldn't wrangle John bon Jovie quickly enough, and so
Speaker 1: they eventually just caved and let him show the.
Speaker 2: The were those phone calls like between the people on
Speaker 2: the ground in the venue and like the executives, like
Speaker 2: the higher I'm sure they were probably there too, be
Speaker 2: like Garth, look we're trying. He's like, no play it
Speaker 2: or I'm gone. Yeah, He's like, but it's and he's like,
Speaker 2: I'm leaving them, and they're like, fuck word. I saw
Speaker 2: bon Jovi. I was just doing coke with him in
Speaker 2: the bathroom. Maybe he can fucking sing it, and he's like, no, man,
Speaker 2: his voice is fucked from all the coke we were
Speaker 2: doing in the bathroom. So I guess we got to
Speaker 2: play this shit.
Speaker 1: His politics just generally are kind of confusing. Like he
Speaker 1: claims to be a Republican. I don't know if he
Speaker 1: how recently he's claimed that, but like he he performed
Speaker 1: at Obama's swearing in ceremony, turned down playing at Trump's
Speaker 1: inauguration because like Biden's, he played at Biden's too, and
Speaker 1: then he played at Biden's. Yeah, so he's I think
Speaker 1: he's like, you just have to claim to be a
Speaker 1: Republican if you're a successful country artist.
Speaker 2: I think more than that, I think he's just a
Speaker 2: very savvy capitalist. That's all this is. He knows how
Speaker 2: to make money, and he's not gonna fucking He's not
Speaker 2: gonna launch a business and be like and I'm on
Speaker 2: the wrong side of the culture wars welcome, come on in. Yeah,
Speaker 2: just raw stuff like this slick stuff like equality.
Speaker 1: There's also that time in twenty twenty where he played
Speaker 1: a sold out stadium in Detroit. But were a Barry
Speaker 1: Sanders jersey to the concert, and you know, Barry Sanders
Speaker 1: was number twenty, so the back of his jersey said
Speaker 1: Sanders twenty and people were.
Speaker 2: Like, he's a fucking burning bro like flipped out, which
Speaker 2: seems like I was still like, but he.
Speaker 1: Knew what he was doing, right, Like that was kind
Speaker 1: of weird. It's not like I think I even went
Speaker 1: so far as to like research if he always wears
Speaker 1: like the football jersey of like whoever the greatest player is.
Speaker 1: But apparently him and Barry Sanders went to college together
Speaker 1: and he's just a shit Barry Sanders fan. So that's
Speaker 1: that's where that came from. So it's always like, is
Speaker 1: he nah, right.
Speaker 2: Right right? I think he's just yeah, again, he knows
Speaker 2: like this, it's not he's smart enough to know. It's like,
Speaker 2: you can't I'm not going to be on the side
Speaker 2: of homophobia and like outwardly do that. Even if I
Speaker 2: might leave that in private, I know better than to
Speaker 2: try and make money off of a brand like that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and again he might he might believe that himself or whatever,
Speaker 2: but I think when he makes these decisions, they always
Speaker 2: keep him like just on the right side of things
Speaker 2: to keep his brand like popular, like across the board ish. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's just having it both ways. He's like a.
Speaker 1: Red blooded CMT friendly Republican and he also like is
Speaker 1: clearly more supportive of Democrats in recent years, and like
Speaker 1: he won't come out and say that he supports the
Speaker 1: trans community, but he will sell bud Light at his
Speaker 1: bar and promote the idea of diversity in general.
Speaker 2: Because his argument too also was kind of like, it's
Speaker 2: the most popular beer in the country, and until it isn't,
Speaker 2: I'm going to serve it. Yeah, So it's also like
Speaker 2: unless he was also like, hey, assholes, if you're that
Speaker 2: principled enough and you don't buy it, and it's clear
Speaker 2: that people don't like it, then maybe I'll reconsider. So
Speaker 2: it's like he's kind of also knows he's like, look,
Speaker 2: I also got the sales argument, not just the I
Speaker 2: stand with like the LGBTQ community, but hey, guarky, his
Speaker 2: argument about diversity was actually about diversity of beer taps
Speaker 2: at his restaurant. But he is the best selling solo
Speaker 2: artist in US history, like across the board, not just
Speaker 2: in country, in US history that makes sense. It is
Speaker 2: a little frustrating that, you know, it does. It does
Speaker 2: feel like there's an opportunity here, but not one that
Speaker 2: he will be taking. It's like waiting for a corporation
Speaker 2: to heal the divisions in this country. It's wild, though, too,
Speaker 2: to see the republican's instinct, through the right wing instinct,
Speaker 2: to be like, fuck Garth Brooks. Then right, because it's
Speaker 2: like the other thing is we have new God. Yeah.
Speaker 2: They the one person's like like a comment or was like,
Speaker 2: he doesn't seem to understand that woke and honky Tonk
Speaker 2: don't go together, that's right, And then another one is
Speaker 2: saying he's making me want to go to Nashville just
Speaker 2: so I could go ahead and piss on his doorstep.
Speaker 2: And another go ahead and piss on his doorsteps. Another
Speaker 2: person who ran off as a Republican. He's like, now
Speaker 2: I delete every Garth brook Brooks song from my collection.
Speaker 2: Never again Garth. Yeah. And Matt Gates said, uh, this
Speaker 2: is really interesting. He said, I'm sure glad we have
Speaker 2: Garth Brooks to tell us who is and isn't an asshole? Question, though,
Speaker 2: does it make someone an asshole if they cheat on
Speaker 2: their spouse, write a song about it with their paramour,
Speaker 2: and then publish the duet with that very paramour talking
Speaker 2: about Tricia Yearwood, Like it's like, are you sir, you're
Speaker 2: under investigation for trafficking miners? Please please fall all the
Speaker 2: way to the back and shut up. But again they're
Speaker 2: trying their best. Yeah, I mean I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hold my breath for Garth Brooks to
Speaker 1: come in and you know, bring the country together. But
Speaker 1: I've heard good things about the politics of this Chris
Speaker 1: Gaines fella, so let's see where he goes with that project.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's wild though, too, Like when you look at
Speaker 2: it for all the boy quote unquote boycotts, boycott boycotts. Wow. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like the sales have been going down actually, but it's
Speaker 2: still the top beer, right, It's like, sorry, we can't
Speaker 2: you know, as much as you think you're doing something
Speaker 2: that everything we're hearing is that you still love us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the top beer owned by the massive conglomerate that
Speaker 1: owns all other beers that you are now drinking instead
Speaker 1: of bud Light.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I can't give up this gay beer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but I think that's also goes back
Speaker 2: to sort of like what the principles are on the
Speaker 2: right wing, Like it's never really rooted in something real.
Speaker 2: That's why they can't fully quit half of these brands
Speaker 2: that they say are like woke, because that would require
Speaker 2: them to be principled enough to be like I stand
Speaker 2: by my convictions that I hate gay people. Yes, and
Speaker 2: I'm sure there are people like that, but there's clearly
Speaker 2: not enough or the people that are inspired, you know,
Speaker 2: to that kind of action, that are like they can
Speaker 2: commit to something like that, because at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, y'all are just consuming like any other person.
Speaker 2: But I get that you like to copy what you
Speaker 2: think principled people would do. It's not rooted anything any
Speaker 2: real stuff, raw stuff, slick flick stuff like this. It
Speaker 2: ain't bringing down the walls. Yeah. Anyways, Courtney, such a
Speaker 2: pleasure having you on the show. Where can people find you?
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Speaker 5: This guy Stephen, he's not this guy, he's like quite successful.
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Speaker 1: There you go, Miles, Where can people find you? Is
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Speaker 2: Oh? He made this the recent Spartacus.
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Speaker 2: half of the Neptunes, Chad Hugo. This is a track
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Speaker 2: remember the Neptunes era. It's just nice to hear that
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