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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two ninety one,

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Speaker 1: Episode two.

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Speaker 2: Of Daly's Eye Guys Day production of Buyheart Radio.

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Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive

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Speaker 1: into America share consciousness. And It's Wednesday, June fourteenth, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, June fourteenth. National New Mexico Day, National Barbon Day,

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Speaker 2: National Pop Goes the Weasel Day, What the go to

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Speaker 2: wel Classic Track World, Blood Donor Day, National Cucumber Day,

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Speaker 2: Shout Out Cukes, International Bad Day, Whack Day, whatever, National

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Speaker 2: Strawberry Shortcake Day.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, get your cucumbers and your strawberries shortcake and

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Speaker 1: have it. Weasel Yeah, and pop and pop that weezl

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Speaker 1: that wheel spoilers. That song is a little scary at

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Speaker 1: the end. There's a jump scare at the end of

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Speaker 1: that song. Aberry the book, he Chase the wee or.

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Speaker 2: The monkey something something that.

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Speaker 1: Pop goes the that pop really comes for you sometimes. Wait,

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Speaker 1: the original version was about an eagle doing battle over rice. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: of course it was what it said, half a pound

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Speaker 1: of toppenny rice, half a pound of treacle.

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Speaker 2: What's who is that ship? Sounds like the way the

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Speaker 2: money goes pop goes the weasel. That is stupid y,

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Speaker 2: that is so bleak. Yeah, I think I think that's

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Speaker 2: like half a pound of food and then it's just

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Speaker 2: just turns into a half a pound of ship. Wait, ship,

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Speaker 2: that's the way the money goes. Wow, and you just money,

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Speaker 2: didn't I didn't know physic No, it's an uncrystallized syrup

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Speaker 2: made during the refining of sugar. Hey, well, what the

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Speaker 2: fuck do I know? Wait? Why did you think? Wait?

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Speaker 2: Where did you get shipped from? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like a ship word. Yea, there it is.

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, ship jack is Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Can I get your treacle sample?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Am I the only doctor here?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Doing a treacle analysis? Got it all right?

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Speaker 1: Well, my name is Jack O'Brien aka Coma Coma, Come up,

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Speaker 1: come up, come of grape ale e. And it's grim

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Speaker 1: as come sticky, grape fun.

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Speaker 2: Come up, come up, come come of.

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Speaker 1: Grape aley a jig slurry new meg flurry.

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Speaker 2: That is courtesy a Hugo.

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Speaker 5: Boss.

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Speaker 1: You keep you keep writing them, I'll keep singing them

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Speaker 1: songs about the fact that the birthday milkshake at McDonald's

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Speaker 1: is definitely grimmoth.

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Speaker 2: Come someone put me on there's a there's like a

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Speaker 2: grape milkshake that is like a float with grape soda. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I'd be on board for that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Someone pointed that out and they're like, look, idiots, this

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Speaker 2: is actually kind of good education.

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Speaker 1: Oh that sounds great, And I was like, this one

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Speaker 1: is grimace come flavor. So I don't know why they're

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Speaker 1: getting mad at us. I'm thrilled to be joined as

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Speaker 1: always by my co host, mister Miles ground Gay.

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Speaker 2: I wish you'd let me use that squad rack my.

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Speaker 6: Friend now feature eyes upon my thighs, the plump shape

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Speaker 6: they're in, and if you do not need to do

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Speaker 6: some reps again, I would spot you may Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Okay, look, we're talking plumpers all day over here. That's

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Speaker 2: a Raizac on Discord again. I get it. We're getting

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Speaker 2: thighs Rais. Yeah. Rais also shout out the lead singer.

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Speaker 1: The just written from the point of view of a

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Speaker 1: cool gym bro.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like it. It's interesting because you're saying like, hey man,

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Speaker 2: you want to let me use that, and then you're like,

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Speaker 2: look at my fucking thoughts.

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Speaker 1: I'll spot you beginning of a beautiful friendship.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, what's your name, Jack? What about you, Miles?

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Speaker 1: And that's how we met impressed by one another's thighs.

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Speaker 1: Haven't been to the gym since, though, stars in our

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Speaker 1: eyes and plump on our thighs. All right, well, Miles,

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Speaker 1: little house keeping up top. First time in the history

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Speaker 1: of the show, we're doing a new public cation schedule

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Speaker 1: for the summer. One episode on Monday, one episode on Friday.

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Speaker 1: We're scaling back to a mere eight episodes a week

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Speaker 1: and putting a little extra onto, a little extra stank

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Speaker 1: onto our Tuesday episode. We're interviewing experts. We're interviewing some

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Speaker 1: of you guys doing some longsh long plays. These are

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Speaker 1: the LPs you didn't realize all long you were listening

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Speaker 1: to the ep o yeah, of TDZ and these are

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Speaker 1: the els demo tapes. So with that in mind, we're

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Speaker 1: putting where We're looking for you to tell us something

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Speaker 1: interesting about your job. You know what our jobs are.

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Speaker 1: Our guests are people in the media. What's something interesting

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Speaker 1: about your job. What's the craziest thing that ever happened

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Speaker 1: to you? Something people misunderstand about your job. We've learned

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Speaker 1: facts about being a automobile repo man, a wedding of Fisionado,

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Speaker 1: a animal autopsy preterinary pathologist, that's it, and a Domino's

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Speaker 1: delivery driver. Thus far, keep them coming. We've been really

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Speaker 1: enjoying hearing.

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Speaker 2: From you guys. Hit us on the Discord, hit us

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Speaker 2: at Daily Zeitgeist, don't here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Miles, We're thrilled to be joined in our

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Speaker 1: third seat, yes by a very talented TV writer, podcaster, comedian, essayist.

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Speaker 1: Do you know her from podcasts like Private Parts? Unknown

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Speaker 1: for essays and writings have been published in a little

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Speaker 1: places like The Washington Post, Stay, La Times, Ever heard

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Speaker 1: of It? Bustle, Hello, Giggle. She's written for TV shows

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Speaker 1: like Netflix, is No It All, Amazon's Emmy winning animated

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Speaker 1: series Danger and Eggs.

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Speaker 2: Please welcome the hilarious, the talented Courtney Cosa Copa. What's up, Courtney.

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Speaker 5: Great to be here, guys, Thanks for that amazing intro.

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Speaker 2: Great to have you starting to work in Yeah something

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Speaker 2: make it easy to intro you with verve. What's new? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: what's going on?

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Speaker 5: What's new? I'm addicted to making podcasts. I have like

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Speaker 5: three podcasts right now.

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Speaker 2: There you go. So that's busy. Yeah? Nice? What else

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Speaker 2: we got? Private parts unknown. What else we're working.

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Speaker 5: On The Bleeders, about book writing and publishing, and then

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Speaker 5: a very meta podcast about podcasting called podcast Bestie.

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Speaker 2: Wait, how's it met at? Wait? What's what's meta about it?

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean I'm like teaching people how to produce

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Speaker 2: Nice.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's fun. It's a really it's turning into a

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Speaker 5: lovely little community.

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Speaker 2: That's the fun thing about podcasting that I never expected

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Speaker 2: from like every other medium I've worked in, was just

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Speaker 2: how quickly people like are just become like like minded

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Speaker 5: And you're like, oh my, look at you' all totally

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Speaker 5: and I'm so flattered just to know the people that

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Speaker 2: So yeah, they're so great. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Asking our listeners to like tell us their jobs has

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Speaker 1: been pretty mind blowing because they're just like crazy impressive,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got hit up by a teacher from the UK. Wow,

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Speaker 2: Like I want to talk about their I'm like, what

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Speaker 5: Is it different?

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Speaker 1: Are they debunking the myths from the pink flets on

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean it's it's such a yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: always it's always a nice you know, pleasant part of

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Speaker 2: it's important for people to just create whatever they want

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Speaker 2: to because there's people will always be picking up what

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Speaker 2: you're putting down on some find your people. All right, Courtney,

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Speaker 2: we're going to get to know you a little bit

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Speaker 2: better in a moment. First, a few of the things

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Speaker 2: we're talking about in today's episode. By the time you

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Speaker 2: hear this, Trump will have been arraigned. In the lead

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Speaker 2: up to the arraignment, he could not find a single

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Speaker 2: for a Florida lawyer who had some expertise in this

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Speaker 1: So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about people keep

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Speaker 1: saying the Republicans might have to the Republican Party might

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Speaker 1: gen Z is killing an industry, So we want to

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Speaker 1: congratulate them. They got their their first body. They caught

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Speaker 1: their first body, and as elder millennials, you know, Congress,

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Speaker 1: CONGRATU welcome to say welcome uh. And we might even

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Speaker 1: get into some Garth Brooks probably one of the most

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Speaker 2: And I saw everything everywhere an I did. This is true.

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Speaker 1: This is just one of the most surreal performances of

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Speaker 1: interesting because he's in the country music world, and so

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Speaker 2: Swoop hair. Oh man, that was a sick look. Oh man.

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Speaker 1: That was the SNL where you know it was hosted

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Speaker 1: by Garth Brooks and the musical guest was Chris Gaines.

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Speaker 2: The Devil, The Devil one, Yeah, the Devil. That's from an.

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Speaker 1: Episode where he does the monologue as Garth Brooks and

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Speaker 1: teases musical guest Chris Gaines will be with us later on.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, sold his soul for days. I hate mine days.

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Speaker 2: Oh fun of a bitch. The guitar was out of tune. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Before we get to any of that ship, Courtney, we

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Speaker 1: do like to ask our guests, what is something from

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Speaker 5: I watched Shiny Happy People, so I looked up, is

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Speaker 5: Jill Duggar estranged from her family and looks like the answers?

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Speaker 2: Yes, which was okay. So this is documentary about the

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Speaker 2: Duggers who had what a TLC show? Is that where

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Speaker 5: Like seventeen and counting eighteen, and you know, it's like

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Speaker 5: And I didn't think I was gonna you know, I

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Speaker 5: wasn't like a fan. I didn't watch a show all

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Speaker 5: the time, right, I was just desperate for something to

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Speaker 5: watch because I feel like the offerings lately have gotten

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Speaker 5: slim pickens. Yeah, but yeah, the documentary is crazy. And

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Speaker 5: Jill is one of the older girls that suffered abuse

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Speaker 5: at her brother's hands, and I think, but it was

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Speaker 5: so nice to see her like gain her voice through

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Speaker 2: Oh gotcha. So how many so of these kids? How

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Speaker 2: many are estranged? Like from the family? Is she like

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Speaker 5: I think the older girls. I think at least two

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Speaker 5: I'm showing you this. It's totally secret.

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Speaker 2: I'd rather not take the el soo publicly defending you

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Speaker 2: on this.

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Speaker 1: Lawyers who have turned him down and like have said anonymously,

437
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,719
Speaker 1: but they're like, first of all, he's a notoriously difficult client.

438
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Speaker 1: Being any in any way associated with him could cause

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Speaker 1: reputational damage. And also the strength of the indictment is

440
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Speaker 1: unfuck withable. It's he clearly is like openly, clearly flagrant

441
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Speaker 1: breaking law, the laws that he's being accused of breaking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and again on tape. It's not even it's not

443
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Speaker 2: even like refutable some stuff. It's like, uh, here's exhibit A.

444
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 2: This is when he's like it's secret, nope, peeking. But

445
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Speaker 2: also look at it. I'm the present or I was. Look,

446
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Speaker 2: I could have declassified it, but I can't now because

447
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Speaker 2: I'm no longer the president. This is therefore classified information

448
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 2: you were looking at. Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's way

449
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 2: too much.

450
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Speaker 1: So when you hear people say he's really like legally

451
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Speaker 1: he's fucked on this one or anybody else. Yeah, I

452
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 1: think the follow up is often like the Republican Party

453
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Speaker 1: might have to step in because otherwise they're going to

454
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Speaker 1: have a you know, nominee for president who is running

455
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Speaker 1: from prison or like might soon be facing prison time.

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Speaker 1: And I just still have not heard a single concrete

457
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Speaker 1: explanation for like what they think that means to like

458
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Speaker 1: save him too. I think I mean step in and

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Speaker 1: like get him out of the presidential race.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, Yeah, I think that when people say that,

461
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Speaker 2: they're missing a really crucial part of their analysis of

462
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Speaker 2: what even the Republicans are. Yeah, because basically they've the

463
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Speaker 2: ship has set sail with what they can do or

464
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Speaker 2: not do, because the second they let Trump take over

465
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Speaker 2: the base and not push back on his steady radicalization

466
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Speaker 2: of the base, like and everyone's like, this thing's gonna

467
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 2: get away from y'all. Better be careful, it's gonna get

468
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,479
Speaker 2: away from y'all. It's gotten away from them now. And

469
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Speaker 2: so basically everyone's kissed the ring in the Republican Party.

470
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Speaker 2: So they're all they're basically signed up for all the

471
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Speaker 2: bullshit that comes along with it. That's why you only

472
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Speaker 2: have like tepid sort of like distancing from Senate Republicans

473
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 2: or like it looks bad but like he needs to

474
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Speaker 2: go to prison. This is fucked up, like it's short

475
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Speaker 2: of that. Like, the most they can do is be like, objectively,

476
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Speaker 2: this looks like a bad legal case and it ends there.

477
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Speaker 2: And so because of that, Trump has now completely he's

478
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 2: he's taken over the party, and so he is the party.

479
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 2: So there's no way the idea that they could do

480
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 2: something like you'd have to presume that Trump was operating

481
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 2: on the outside and that already that the party is

482
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Speaker 2: not already in service to every of like all of

483
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Speaker 2: his desires. So I don't I think from if you

484
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Speaker 2: look at it like that, there is nothing they can

485
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Speaker 2: do because they've just become part of him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what if the mass said like this is illegal,

487
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Speaker 5: but he should be in prison, that.

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Speaker 2: Would be wild.

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Speaker 1: That'd be wild, and it probably I mean, but it

490
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Speaker 1: might his feelings enough for him to like run as

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Speaker 1: an independent candidate. But I don't know that it would

492
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Speaker 1: like that they can do anything, like you can't prevent

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Speaker 1: him from running as a Republican.

494
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Speaker 2: I don't think, yeah, well I would they. I think, what, like, right,

495
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Speaker 2: let's let's presume all the Senate Republicans are like they were, like,

496
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 2: you know what, this is a bridge too far. He

497
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 2: broke the laws. He has to go, he has to

498
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 2: answer for his crimes. This is indefensible, and we like,

499
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: as far as we're concerned, we want nothing to do

500
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 2: with Donald Trumps as a politician or anything. But what

501
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 2: happened is the base would just go, these people are

502
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 2: fucking rhinos and fuck them and then that's it. That's

503
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 2: where it ends, you know, like there's no there's no

504
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 2: second layer of an or like they're not gonna think

505
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 2: past that because again, Trump just embodies like white grievance

506
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: politics in its most potent form, and there's nothing you

507
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 2: can do to like change that, because unless you like

508
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 2: address the ideological shortcomings of their like white grievance politics,

509
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 2: they're just gonna go further down this hole. Because everything's

510
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 2: in service of we're losing our spot, our influence, we're

511
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 2: having to seed, like we're having to acknowledge other people's

512
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 2: existence and be more inclusive. They don't want to do

513
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 2: with any of that, so they're just gonna go further

514
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 2: and further and just go like, I don't know this guy, fine,

515
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Speaker 2: I don't care if he kills people, because at the

516
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 2: end of the day, we're like here for this very intellectually,

517
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 2: you know, sad like argument. It's hard to see how

518
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Speaker 2: they change unless they have a real shift. And that's

519
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Speaker 2: just I think that's that didn't happen.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't want him to be the nominee

521
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, and they weren't able to stop him then,

522
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: and now he has so much more of a hold

523
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: over the Republican Party, Like I guess their reasons for

524
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: wanting to stop him are stronger now, or at least,

525
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: like you could make the case in a mainstream media

526
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Speaker 1: news article that he is like not a candidate who

527
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Speaker 1: should be eligible for office, but that is not going

528
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Speaker 1: to resonate at all, Like it presumes that the Republican

529
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Speaker 1: Party has the same control as the Democratic Party, Like

530
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Speaker 1: the Democrats were able to step in and be like,

531
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Speaker 1: well it can't be Bernie Sanders, right, Like, no one's

532
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Speaker 1: going to vote for him in the general.

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Speaker 2: So it's like, well, what about all these millions of

534
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: people that support him. We'll figure that out. We'll figure

535
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 2: it out.

536
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: Like, but the Democratic Party, like the Democratic base like

537
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: inherently actually listens to the mainstream media, like and so

538
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Speaker 1: you know, he won a single primary, Sanders want a

539
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Speaker 1: single primary, and then the mainstream media went into full

540
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: panic like electability ship, and then you know, it was

541
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: basically over because that's that is a voice that the

542
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: main that the Democratic voting base listens to, whereas Trump

543
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: voters don't take like they don't listen to the mainstream

544
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Speaker 1: media at all, and in fact, like if the mainstream

545
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Speaker 1: media tells them something, they will you know, be less

546
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Speaker 1: likely to believe it, which just it makes me think

547
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Speaker 1: like in a much stranger we have like a much

548
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Speaker 1: stranger next year in front of us than people are

549
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: acknowledging because he is. I don't think his power is

550
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Speaker 1: going anywhere. There's this idea that to say is going

551
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Speaker 1: to come in and like save the Republican Party from

552
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: Trump and like or that these indictments or you know,

553
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: eventual convictions are going to come in and save the

554
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: country from Trump, and I just don't think any of

555
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: those things are going to work at all, and might,

556
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: in fact, like give him more power with his base,

557
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: which who like you said, it's like a combination of

558
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Speaker 1: like racism and like martyrdom, like that is a really

559
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Speaker 1: powerful combination for his base.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, all all fucking dictators do the victimization. Shit, sure, no,

561
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: they all do because that when you say that to

562
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Speaker 2: your crowd, then you have basically, in their mind implanted,

563
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Speaker 2: Now y'all have to defend me because I'm a victim.

564
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 2: Y'all fuck with me, right, I'm a victim, So what's up?

565
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 2: And they will all say that's you're right, that's fucked up.

566
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Speaker 2: We need to defend you, and that's all he's bringing out.

567
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 2: Listen to the fucking defenses though from some of these Republicans,

568
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: because they don't even make sense, like this, how far

569
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 2: down the road we are with like other things that

570
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: can be like it was a perfect call whatever we're

571
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 2: talking about trainscripts where he knows what he's doing is

572
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: fucking illegal, right, Like this is Jim Jordan talking to

573
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Speaker 2: Dana Bash on CNN. He like he didn't even know

574
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Speaker 2: what to say when she's like, but he's on tape

575
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 2: and he's such like fucking melting.

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Speaker 3: Clarice says, point blank on tape, as president, I could

577
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Speaker 3: have declassified it. Now I can't, he says, in his

578
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 3: own words, it's on tape as part of this indictment

579
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Speaker 3: that he did not declassify the material.

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Speaker 7: Therefore it is saying he saying he could have. Saying

581
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 7: he could have is not the same as saying he didn't.

582
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Speaker 7: He said, now I can't classify this material. He said

583
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Speaker 7: that meant now he can't write right because he's not

584
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Speaker 7: president now.

585
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 2: But when he was what means he did delassify.

586
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Speaker 3: He said that, which means that what he was holding

587
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 3: was classific.

588
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 7: Not not when he's not, not if he not, if

589
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Speaker 7: he declassified it when he was president United States for.

590
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Speaker 3: Good, But he's saying in this audio tape that he

591
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Speaker 3: did not declassify it. It's what you're saying just doesn't

592
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 3: make sense on its face exactly.

593
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Speaker 1: And he's even like fucked, come on, Yeah, he has

594
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: a smile on his face that is.

595
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 2: Like, what do you want me to do?

596
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 3: Yah?

597
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 2: You caught me lying, you caught me lying? Okay, fine?

598
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 2: Or then like here's Kevin McCarthy who, when asked, you're like, yo,

599
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 2: this is a bad like you're saying, this is a

600
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 2: bad look, right, This is what fucking Kevin McCarthy said.

601
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Speaker 3: Was that a good look for the former president to

602
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Speaker 3: have boxes in a bathroom?

603
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Speaker 8: I don't know.

604
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 2: Is it a good picture to have boxes in a

605
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Speaker 2: garage that opens up all the time.

606
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Speaker 7: A bathroom door.

607
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 2: Locks, oh yes, oh yeah, because he's I know, he's

608
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Speaker 2: serious about it. I could roll up to any garage

609
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 2: door right now and just open that ship, just pull

610
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Speaker 2: up and just because they're unlocked. I'm like, is what

611
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: you know, like the lock for a bathroom is it

612
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 2: for the in case the documents want to have privacy

613
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 2: while they're taking the ship right what like anyway and

614
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 2: you can pick them from the outside. They're like they're

615
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 2: made to be like, hey, even if you lock it

616
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: from the inside errantly, you can still get into the

617
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 2: bathroom because there are ways to just disengage the door

618
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: handle locks. So they're at this thing where it's like

619
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 2: they're just saying things are there that aren't or these

620
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 2: really half assed answers. And I think the only way

621
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Speaker 2: that honestly you would see any kind of real reaction

622
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Speaker 2: is you have to go against like one of the

623
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 2: two tenants of the United States. It's white supremacy or capitalism. Right,

624
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 2: So unless Trump I don't and again I've always said

625
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 2: as a thought experiment, it would be wild to see

626
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: if Trump could even break that barrier and be like,

627
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 2: what we've got to do is take what we got

628
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 2: to redistribute all of this wealth and give it to

629
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Speaker 2: you guys. Yeah, and people be like, yeah, then would

630
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 2: we see the reflexes of this country, the natural reflexes

631
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 2: of this country kick in where they're like that shit

632
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: ain't happening every right, And then you see all the

633
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: fucking networks get lockstep and be like this guy's bad

634
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: or just like stop talking about it, because, like you say, Jack,

635
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 2: like all the time, like there is a instinct within

636
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 2: the United States to reject anything that isn't going along

637
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 2: with like hyper capitalism. Yeah, and I think that's the

638
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: only potential third rail I could see.

639
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: But they're definitely allergic to anything that is even suggests socialism.

640
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: But I mean just to like, I don't think like

641
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: a lot of people are, like the media was out

642
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 1: in full force at his arraignment, and people are like,

643
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: this is gonna be the next January sixth, and I

644
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: think like as of now, which I think I think

645
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: the arrangement, like as we're recording this just happened, people

646
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Speaker 1: were saying that like the media outnumbered protesters, Like it

647
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: does seem like there is in New York, right, Yeah,

648
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Speaker 1: I think.

649
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Speaker 2: They said in Miami oh, I'm not looking at it

650
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Speaker 2: right now. There's a lot of mockers out there, Oh

651
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 2: there is, ok, Oh yeah, yeah, I mean it's Florida.

652
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,439
Speaker 2: Like it's different. That's the thing is, like New York

653
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 2: isn't going to have the same crop of people who

654
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 2: are willing to like call in sick to go down

655
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: to a court house, you know, than Florida is. Like there's,

656
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 2: like I said yesterday in like a trending episode, there's

657
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: the Florida of it all with this case too, that

658
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 2: will have ramifications with the jury and whatever shit might

659
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 2: take place outside of the courthouse.

660
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like for just for a worst case scenario,

661
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,919
Speaker 1: like we've got Carrie Lake, who lost in Arizona last

662
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: year in the in the midterms, saying if they want

663
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: to come for or like indict Trump, have to come

664
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: through me and seventy five million other Americans and most

665
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: of us are card carrying members of the NRA, which

666
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: is like, that's pretty clearly a call to like civil war.

667
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: She also like was like and to anyone who comes

668
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: to his arrangement should like protest peacefully. But like, I'm

669
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: pretty sure the implication of what she's saying is like

670
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: that we're going to start a second civil war, and

671
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: so like in the face of that, just the idea

672
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: that like the Republican Party could do anything like what

673
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: they're going to like give to Santa's like more TV

674
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: ads or like give him extra fifteen seconds in the debates.

675
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 2: It's not a party, though, I think we just have

676
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 2: to stop talking about it as a party. Yeah, it's

677
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: an autocratic organization within the United States, and like all

678
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 2: they do is just defer to the head, which is

679
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, and the few people that don't they just leave.

680
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: And that's only like a couple. Yeah, and I think

681
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 2: there's also there. Jamel Booy had this op ed in

682
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 2: the New York Times who talks about sort of like

683
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 2: this paradoxical relationship that Republicans have and other people and

684
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 2: organizations that are in distress have where you don't necessarily

685
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 2: shed a ton of people because there are some people

686
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 2: who think, well, I better stay to keep it from

687
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 2: being worse. And that's why you get these like weird,

688
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 2: mealy mouthed Senate Republicans or are like, well it looks bad,

689
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 2: but then are like Rah rah voting to like not

690
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 2: certify the election and shit like and you know it's

691
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it's all having to do

692
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: with the fact that they've once only sixteen happened. It

693
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 2: was just a rap, you know, Everyone's like, do they've

694
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 2: opened Pandora's box and this is what's happened? Like, it's

695
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 2: not They're not going to be able to move to

696
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 2: the fucking whatever cent, whatever the center is anymore. Yeah,

697
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 2: without something serious happening. Yeah.

698
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 5: Maybe, though, I mean, I hate to sound like such

699
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 5: a Pollyanna, but the most of the Republicans, I mean

700
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 5: of the Republicans, I know, I feel like they're more

701
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,919
Speaker 5: like business Republicans and have no desire to vote for him.

702
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 2: You know, sure did they vote for him the first time?

703
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 5: I don't know exactly.

704
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 2: That's always my question. It's not always still friends with

705
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,959
Speaker 2: them because you don't know that part. Yeah, I don't.

706
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 5: I don't know the first part, but I didn't interrogate

707
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 5: it too hard.

708
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,479
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, yeah, I just so, I don't think

709
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: that there's going to be these January sixth style like

710
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: insurrections happening because people got so fucked over and his

711
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 1: response was just like grifted on their behalf. So I

712
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: do feel like there's less energy for that. But I

713
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: just I think like we're obviously like it's everyone in

714
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 1: the mainstream media is like, this is uncharted territory because

715
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 1: a former president.

716
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: Is being indicted.

717
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: But like, I just have no idea, like where we like,

718
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 1: what does the twenty twenty four election look like? It's

719
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 1: gonna be so fucking strange?

720
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it could be. That's why it's And again

721
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 2: we know what Trump said, if he wins, he's not

722
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 2: going anywhere. Yeah, he said, I'll never leave. And you know,

723
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 2: he already tested defenses in his first administration and realized,

724
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 2: oh shit, okay, I need more flunkies, Like I'm gonna

725
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 2: have to purge half the people who are career employees

726
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 2: of the government because those are the people that ended

727
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 2: up interrupting the Like, those are the nodes in the

728
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 2: system that ended up stopping the fuckery at certain points

729
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 2: rather than making it fully smooth sailing. And to know

730
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 2: that his whole because again, he's just running to get

731
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: out of prison, so that's all it is. Like it's

732
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 2: like it's like a race to the fucking election. So

733
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 2: he'd be like, either I gotta win or maybe the

734
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 2: hommy can win and pardon me, but that's it, like

735
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 2: has nothing to do with anything else. And and you know,

736
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 2: well the country will start me it's already fucked up.

737
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 2: But it's like, what, what is like the voting day

738
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty four presidential election going to look

739
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 2: like like there's going to be people with guns at

740
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 2: every fucking ballot place. Like it's truly just so dystopians.

741
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 2: They're going to be at least one hundred and fifty

742
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 2: feet outside of them. They're not going to get one

743
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty feet where the police will high five

744
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 2: them and occasionally let them aim their guns at the

745
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 2: other people.

746
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 1: You too, And then yeah, all right, well very strange times.

747
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and

748
00:39:47,160 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: talk about gen Z. And we're back, and finally gen

749
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: Z is getting caught a body, blood on their hands,

750
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: blood on their hands. They're killing booze sales at concerts.

751
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 5: Woo.

752
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 2: I just love that that finally we have our head

753
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 2: first or I don't know, at least from my memory,

754
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 2: a first, gen Z is killing blank industry. But yeah,

755
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 2: they said something like there's an article on Billboard that

756
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 2: was saying that like some of these like club operators

757
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 2: are seeing like twenty five percent declines in booz sales

758
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 2: at shows that are aimed at gen Z audiences. But

759
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 2: this is a trend we've talked about for a while,

760
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 2: like and it's been documented since the early adds, Like

761
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 2: college kids are drinking less and smoking more weed.

762
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: That's just everybody is it really is like everyone is

763
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: now yeah, Like I don't know why we're blaming gen Z.

764
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,439
Speaker 1: It's just now we have for me, right, oh yeah,

765
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: the edibles and we have psilocybin and like what you

766
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: know that are much easier to get. Like you used

767
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: to need like to know somebody's older brother who's a

768
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: drug dealer to get mushrooms now quick. Now they have

769
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: some dispensaries, so like hey we got mushrooms on the low,

770
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: just so you know anyway, But yeah, like then it's funny,

771
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,959
Speaker 1: like there is one analyst in this article. They pointed

772
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 1: out quote.

773
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 2: They're either eating edibles before they come or there's more

774
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 2: of a sober like mental health focus. It's like their

775
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 2: fucking analysis. And I think what's interesting is that gen

776
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 2: Z is definitely more mindful than their older peers. Like

777
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 2: we've seen that across the board from like their their

778
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 2: own sense of self and like what their values are.

779
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 2: But also this was wild. Twenty one percent of gen

780
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 2: Z like consumers have bought non alcoholic beer in the

781
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 2: last twelve months. Wow. To me, that is really indicative

782
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 2: of where they're at, because like when I was in

783
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: my twenties, I think I bought non alcoholic beer once

784
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 2: and it was to prank one of our friends that

785
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 2: we nicknamed the Bastard. Just to give you an idea

786
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 2: of like what the dynamics we plate there. Oh man,

787
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: So I think there is something to that. But I

788
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 2: think overall, like with all these articles, they always they're

789
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 2: missing the point when it's like millennials are killing the

790
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 2: diamond industry. It's like, no, we don't have diamond money,

791
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 2: right and right now, if you go out, have you

792
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 2: tried to buy alcohol at a sports or music venue,

793
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: that shit is like five xd like pricing, So you

794
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 2: know it is what it is.

795
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just charging more because they're selling less essentially.

796
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I think they also like they don't

797
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 2: really make mention of the sacred ritual of young broke

798
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 2: kids the pregame, right, and when I didn't have like

799
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 2: going out to drink money, I would get fucked up

800
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 2: at home and then go out because I know i'd

801
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 2: have to buy any alcohol when I was out. Yeah yeah,

802
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 2: I'll just bring a like flat bottle of vodka with me,

803
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 2: Like yeah, like you fashioned? Why no?

804
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 5: You know.

805
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: It's like I went to like a dive bar once

806
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: with about it just to like save money.

807
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 2: Oh my homie, the bastard. He would go to the

808
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 2: bar and he would bring he would just fill up.

809
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 2: He would do half diet coke, havelf jim bean and

810
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 2: just kip and sip on that, and then he would

811
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 2: go to his car and just like re up that shit.

812
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 2: And then like they were eventually like what the fuck

813
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 2: are you doing?

814
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 3: Oh?

815
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 2: So he would order diet coke from the bar and no, no, no, no,

816
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 2: he brought in a twenty ounce diet coke bottle with him.

817
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 2: I was just sipping off that in like flagrant style.

818
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 2: That's amazing. But you know, people are doing their own thing.

819
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it's just it's true, like

820
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 2: we're just we're finding we're having fun in our own ways.

821
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 2: And now these like venues are like what if we

822
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 2: sold CBD. Yeah, It's like I don't know, I don't

823
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 2: think that's what it is. What if you lowered your prices,

824
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: But again, everything's costs more. So I don't know that

825
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 2: jibes with the business model. I mean the first time,

826
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 2: like the first kind of deep stoner thought like I

827
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,720
Speaker 2: heard about like my it was like ninth grade history

828
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 2: teacher was like, why do you think booze is legal

829
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 2: and weed isn't. We're like, because.

830
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: Weed is bad for you, you're our teacher. We're trying

831
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: to and he's like, no, it's because you can grow

832
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 1: your own weed.

833
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 2: It's easy.

834
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: You know, you don't need the government to make it

835
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: for you. You don't need a corporation to make it

836
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: for you, so it's harder to tax.

837
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was like, whoa.

838
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: He was also dipping the entire time we were in class.

839
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: Oh shout out to Kentucky.

840
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like so telling how capitalist The headline is, though,

841
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 5: it's not like these gen z kids are making way

842
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 5: healthier choices. It's like they're killing this industry.

843
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 2: Fucking up my money is the translation. All these headlines are,

844
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 2: this generational cohort is fucking up our money. Yeah.

845
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: The only mention of mental health in this being a

846
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: good thing is from the analyst who says there's more

847
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: of either they're eating edibles before they come, or there's

848
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: more of a sober mental health and then they had

849
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: like the journalist had to add the word folks. I

850
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: guess it's in like the uh parentheticals that so like

851
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: he presumably said, like there's more of a sober mental

852
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: health thing or thing something mental health ship, probably sober

853
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: mental health ship.

854
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 2: They're either eating I like though it's like it's like

855
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 2: the take of like a distressed parents, Like I think

856
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 2: they're either eating edibles before they come, or it's like

857
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 2: sober mental health stuff, like they don't even know how

858
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 2: to actually bring up the topic of mental health without

859
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 2: needing the help of the journalism, or it's like sober

860
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 2: mental health thing. Focus. Focus is the word you're looking for, sir. Yeah,

861
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: but yeah, it's it's it's it's sad to see you know,

862
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 2: less booze sales and I don't know, younger people just

863
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 2: figuring out what's better for them and what they like rather.

864
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 5: Than yeah, nothing to celebrate here.

865
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 2: What are the cops going to be? Like? The gen

866
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 2: Z's killing the dui industry, But.

867
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: Won't you please think of the one giant corporation that

868
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: owns every booze company like that, those are the real

869
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: victims here. That's who we really need to be thinking of.

870
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: All right, Well, speaking of booze and music, Garth Brooks

871
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: is in the news. I guess he's like always in

872
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: the news. It's just like tends to be not news

873
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 1: that I'm paying attention to. But this dude's still selling

874
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: out like fucking football stadiums.

875
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he.

876
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: Really stepped in it because he announced that his new

877
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: Nashville bar will be serving bud Light, the beer like

878
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: beverage and target of transphobic outrage, and people are pissed.

879
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: I this is the sort of story that I feel

880
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 1: like I might typically skip past, but I am viewing,

881
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: like Courtney, we had a pop culture theorist Aisha Harris

882
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 1: on the show yesterday, and we're talking about this idea

883
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: that stand culture and like being really like devoted to

884
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift or like whoever your musical favorite musical artist is,

885
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: or like Star Wars or these things is like the

886
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: new religion, because like religion has sort of gone away

887
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: for most.

888
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 2: Young people, and so I don't I don't know.

889
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: I do think that it's probably worth paying attention to

890
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: when these massive, like global phenomenon artists make a decision

891
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: that like infuriates their disciples and it looks like I

892
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: don't know, Hey, Garth Brooks. First of all, I do

893
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 1: want to say I think it's important context for all

894
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: stories about Garth Brooks. This man has left the planet

895
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: Earth permanently. There's a video where he announces that he's

896
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: on Facebook Live for the first time. It's a historical

897
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: document at this point. It was when like Facebook video

898
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 1: was new. But I just want to play real quick.

899
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: You guys can hear the audio. Just know that he

900
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: is looking deep into the camera.

901
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 2: Get yeah.

902
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 1: Like it's like a combination of like seventies cult leader,

903
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 1: like just big glassy eyes, but he's also like trying

904
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: to fuck you like a cult leader.

905
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So basically it's a cult leader.

906
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 8: Well, I guess it's official. We're now on Facebook. I

907
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 8: really wasn't sure about this at the start, but then

908
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 8: a friend of mine said something that just made all

909
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 8: kinds of sense. She said, think of it more as

910
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 8: a conversation. I like that, but I'm already finding out

911
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 8: on my own. So it's wiping the walls out between

912
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 8: you and me, and I really like that it allows

913
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 8: us into each other's worlds or gets, in my case,

914
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 8: hotel room. I think about things I want to post.

915
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 8: I want to post cool stuff, slick stuff.

916
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 2: Neat stuff, slick.

917
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 8: Yes, stuff I'm gonna post is gonna be raw stuff

918
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 8: like this raw because it's just too I am just

919
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 8: getting wrong.

920
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 2: So if this is.

921
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 8: Truly a conversation, and I say, let the conversation begin.

922
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 5: Oh, how much did they pay him?

923
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,919
Speaker 2: It's so he's been talking about he's been talking about

924
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 2: this decision with like the bud light stuff on Facebook Live. Yeah.

925
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,720
Speaker 1: So, I mean this was the beginning of a significant

926
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 1: shift in the cultural landscape. But he is very just

927
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, I can't imagine that's what he's actually

928
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: like in person, but it's very very strange vibes being

929
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: given in that video.

930
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah.

931
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 1: So he also revealed recently that he's itching to revive

932
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: his rock alter ego, Chris Gaines, which I don't know

933
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: how many people remember this, but in nineteen ninety nine

934
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: he released an album under the name Chris Gaines. He

935
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: had floppy bangs and no cowboy hat and just like

936
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: was really all in on this character. He recently said

937
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: the Games Project was a lot of time put in

938
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: because it's not natural you're acting on record. But I

939
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 1: want to do it simply for the people who love

940
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: the Games Project talking about like reviving.

941
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 2: It, people who like me wearing a wig.

942
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 5: I think he's bringing it back because he wants to

943
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 5: wear hair.

944
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I look, I love a wig, you know what

945
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 2: I mean? And that shit, look, it's looks so dumb.

946
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 2: But I get how he would put the wig on him, Like, honey,

947
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 2: get in here, look at me. Look at this guy.

948
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 2: What do we call him? Yeah, it ain't Garth, it's man.

949
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,280
Speaker 2: If I had hair, I would be somebody called Chris

950
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 2: Gaines or something like that. Okay, honey, Yeah, to wear

951
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 2: wigs as a bit, oh yeah, it was a bit.

952
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 2: But people who've ran into me in public, like I've somebody,

953
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 2: y'all see me at the grocery start, They're like miles

954
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 2: and I'm like, turn to like flopping my hair back.

955
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 2: I'm excuse me, Hi, you must be zeitgang.

956
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: Yes, men will go to any lengths to not go

957
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: to therapy and instead wear a wig, you know.

958
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah right.

959
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: Ladies cheaper too, Yeah, but yeah, so this caused, like him,

960
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: his decision to serve bud Light, not his decision to

961
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: maybe revive Chris Gaines, caused huge backlash from country fans,

962
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: and he just doubled down and said, but inclusiveness is

963
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: always going to be me. I think diversity is to

964
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,959
Speaker 1: the is the answer to the problems that are here

965
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: and the answer to the problems that are coming. Like

966
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: it feels like he's speaking like a spiritual leader, which sure,

967
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: I mean he so he's always been like a step

968
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 1: progressive for his audience. Like he won a glad Media

969
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: Award for his nineteen ninety three song we Shall Be Free.

970
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 2: Which radical.

971
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, the lyrics drop some lines by how we're free

972
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: to love anyone we choose, and it was inspired by

973
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: the Rodney King riots. Judging from the music video, it's

974
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 1: also about the fall of communism all.

975
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 5: This shit, come on, get him here.

976
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:16,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, communist cops whatever, let's all get in. Yeah.

977
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: But like at that time, a lot of his fans

978
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 1: were like fuck this, Like the country radio stations were

979
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: boycotting the song, not all of his songs, but just

980
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: that song. And apparently this came to a head. I

981
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: think I vaguely remembered him singing the national anthem at

982
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: the super Bowl, but he apparently like left the stadium

983
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 1: forty five minutes prior to when he was supposed to

984
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: go go on. He like bounced because and NBC like

985
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: went and tried to get JOm bon Jovie out of

986
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: the stands to.

987
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 2: This guy's NBC wouldn't play the video, yeah.

988
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: Because so he was like, you have to play this

989
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: music video about like my we Shall Be Free song,

990
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: and NBC was like, it's too dark, Garth. It's it's dark, Garth.

991
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: We want light, Garth. We want friends in low places.

992
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: And he was like, I'm walking, And so he left

993
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: the fucking football stadium where the super Bowl was being

994
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: held forty five minutes before and then and they couldn't

995
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: they couldn't wrangle John bon Jovie quickly enough, and so

996
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,720
Speaker 1: they eventually just caved and let him show the.

997
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 2: The were those phone calls like between the people on

998
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 2: the ground in the venue and like the executives, like

999
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 2: the higher I'm sure they were probably there too, be

1000
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 2: like Garth, look we're trying. He's like, no play it

1001
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 2: or I'm gone. Yeah, He's like, but it's and he's like,

1002
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 2: I'm leaving them, and they're like, fuck word. I saw

1003
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 2: bon Jovi. I was just doing coke with him in

1004
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 2: the bathroom. Maybe he can fucking sing it, and he's like, no, man,

1005
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 2: his voice is fucked from all the coke we were

1006
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 2: doing in the bathroom. So I guess we got to

1007
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 2: play this shit.

1008
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: His politics just generally are kind of confusing. Like he

1009
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: claims to be a Republican. I don't know if he

1010
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: how recently he's claimed that, but like he he performed

1011
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: at Obama's swearing in ceremony, turned down playing at Trump's

1012
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 1: inauguration because like Biden's, he played at Biden's too, and

1013
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: then he played at Biden's. Yeah, so he's I think

1014
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: he's like, you just have to claim to be a

1015
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: Republican if you're a successful country artist.

1016
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 2: I think more than that, I think he's just a

1017
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 2: very savvy capitalist. That's all this is. He knows how

1018
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 2: to make money, and he's not gonna fucking He's not

1019
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 2: gonna launch a business and be like and I'm on

1020
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,959
Speaker 2: the wrong side of the culture wars welcome, come on in. Yeah,

1021
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 2: just raw stuff like this slick stuff like equality.

1022
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,280
Speaker 1: There's also that time in twenty twenty where he played

1023
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: a sold out stadium in Detroit. But were a Barry

1024
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: Sanders jersey to the concert, and you know, Barry Sanders

1025
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 1: was number twenty, so the back of his jersey said

1026
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: Sanders twenty and people were.

1027
00:54:55,960 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 2: Like, he's a fucking burning bro like flipped out, which

1028
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 2: seems like I was still like, but he.

1029
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,439
Speaker 1: Knew what he was doing, right, Like that was kind

1030
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: of weird. It's not like I think I even went

1031
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:09,959
Speaker 1: so far as to like research if he always wears

1032
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: like the football jersey of like whoever the greatest player is.

1033
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: But apparently him and Barry Sanders went to college together

1034
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: and he's just a shit Barry Sanders fan. So that's

1035
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: that's where that came from. So it's always like, is

1036
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 1: he nah, right.

1037
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 2: Right right? I think he's just yeah, again, he knows

1038
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 2: like this, it's not he's smart enough to know. It's like,

1039
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 2: you can't I'm not going to be on the side

1040
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 2: of homophobia and like outwardly do that. Even if I

1041
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 2: might leave that in private, I know better than to

1042
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 2: try and make money off of a brand like that. Yeah,

1043
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 2: and again he might he might believe that himself or whatever,

1044
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,720
Speaker 2: but I think when he makes these decisions, they always

1045
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 2: keep him like just on the right side of things

1046
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 2: to keep his brand like popular, like across the board ish. Yeah,

1047
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 2: he's just having it both ways. He's like a.

1048
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: Red blooded CMT friendly Republican and he also like is

1049
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: clearly more supportive of Democrats in recent years, and like

1050
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: he won't come out and say that he supports the

1051
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: trans community, but he will sell bud Light at his

1052
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: bar and promote the idea of diversity in general.

1053
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 2: Because his argument too also was kind of like, it's

1054
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 2: the most popular beer in the country, and until it isn't,

1055
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 2: I'm going to serve it. Yeah, So it's also like

1056
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 2: unless he was also like, hey, assholes, if you're that

1057
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,240
Speaker 2: principled enough and you don't buy it, and it's clear

1058
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 2: that people don't like it, then maybe I'll reconsider. So

1059
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 2: it's like he's kind of also knows he's like, look,

1060
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 2: I also got the sales argument, not just the I

1061
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 2: stand with like the LGBTQ community, but hey, guarky, his

1062
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,720
Speaker 2: argument about diversity was actually about diversity of beer taps

1063
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 2: at his restaurant. But he is the best selling solo

1064
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 2: artist in US history, like across the board, not just

1065
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 2: in country, in US history that makes sense. It is

1066
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,439
Speaker 2: a little frustrating that, you know, it does. It does

1067
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 2: feel like there's an opportunity here, but not one that

1068
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,839
Speaker 2: he will be taking. It's like waiting for a corporation

1069
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,919
Speaker 2: to heal the divisions in this country. It's wild, though, too,

1070
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 2: to see the republican's instinct, through the right wing instinct,

1071
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 2: to be like, fuck Garth Brooks. Then right, because it's

1072
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 2: like the other thing is we have new God. Yeah.

1073
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 2: They the one person's like like a comment or was like,

1074
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 2: he doesn't seem to understand that woke and honky Tonk

1075
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 2: don't go together, that's right, And then another one is

1076
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 2: saying he's making me want to go to Nashville just

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Speaker 2: so I could go ahead and piss on his doorstep.

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Speaker 2: And another go ahead and piss on his doorsteps. Another

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Speaker 2: person who ran off as a Republican. He's like, now

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Speaker 2: I delete every Garth brook Brooks song from my collection.

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Speaker 2: Never again Garth. Yeah. And Matt Gates said, uh, this

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Speaker 2: is really interesting. He said, I'm sure glad we have

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Speaker 2: Garth Brooks to tell us who is and isn't an asshole? Question, though,

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Speaker 2: does it make someone an asshole if they cheat on

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Speaker 2: their spouse, write a song about it with their paramour,

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Speaker 2: and then publish the duet with that very paramour talking

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Speaker 2: about Tricia Yearwood, Like it's like, are you sir, you're

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Speaker 2: under investigation for trafficking miners? Please please fall all the

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Speaker 2: way to the back and shut up. But again they're

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Speaker 2: trying their best. Yeah, I mean I don't.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hold my breath for Garth Brooks to

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Speaker 1: come in and you know, bring the country together. But

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Speaker 1: I've heard good things about the politics of this Chris

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Speaker 1: Gaines fella, so let's see where he goes with that project.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It's wild though, too, Like when you look at

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Speaker 2: it for all the boy quote unquote boycotts, boycott boycotts. Wow. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Like the sales have been going down actually, but it's

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Speaker 2: still the top beer, right, It's like, sorry, we can't

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Speaker 2: you know, as much as you think you're doing something

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Speaker 2: that everything we're hearing is that you still love us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the top beer owned by the massive conglomerate that

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Speaker 1: owns all other beers that you are now drinking instead

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Speaker 1: of bud Light.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I can't give up this gay beer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but I think that's also goes back

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Speaker 2: to sort of like what the principles are on the

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00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 2: right wing, Like it's never really rooted in something real.

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Speaker 2: That's why they can't fully quit half of these brands

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Speaker 2: that they say are like woke, because that would require

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Speaker 2: them to be principled enough to be like I stand

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Speaker 2: by my convictions that I hate gay people. Yes, and

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Speaker 2: I'm sure there are people like that, but there's clearly

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Speaker 2: not enough or the people that are inspired, you know,

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Speaker 2: to that kind of action, that are like they can

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Speaker 2: commit to something like that, because at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day, y'all are just consuming like any other person.

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Speaker 2: But I get that you like to copy what you

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Speaker 2: think principled people would do. It's not rooted anything any

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Speaker 2: real stuff, raw stuff, slick flick stuff like this. It

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Speaker 2: ain't bringing down the walls. Yeah. Anyways, Courtney, such a

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Speaker 2: pleasure having you on the show. Where can people find you?

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Speaker 2: Follow you? Hear you all that good stuff?

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Speaker 5: Check out one of my podcasts I have Private Parts Unknown,

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Speaker 5: the Bleeders podcast Bestie. I'm also trying to get to

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Speaker 5: the top one percent on OnlyFans before I retire, So

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Speaker 5: there you go. Playboy Peak behind the podcast.

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Speaker 2: How far are you from getting there?

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Speaker 5: I'm in the top five percent?

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Speaker 2: Damn wow? What that means?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 2: How many people? How many people does that mean? I

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Speaker 2: don't I don't know people in terms of account I

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Speaker 2: mean accounts, like how many? How many accounts are in

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Speaker 2: the top five Like is that a like New Mary?

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Speaker 5: Sure, it's a ton of people. Someone who's in like

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Speaker 5: the top point one. But and she makes one hundred

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Speaker 5: grand a day a month, Jasmin Jafar, I do not do.

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Speaker 2: That, man, Well, amazing. Is there a work of media

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Speaker 2: that you've been enjoying? You know what?

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Speaker 5: This guy Stephen, he's not this guy, he's like quite successful.

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Speaker 5: But Stephen d Night big. I guess he made Spartacus.

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Speaker 5: But he had a great Twitter thread about the DGA

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Speaker 5: vote and AI. So anyway, it starts with this thread.

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Speaker 5: The fact that sharing viewership data was the one thing

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Speaker 5: that the AMPTP absolutely refused to negotiate with the DGA on.

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Speaker 5: This is a big reason I voted no to ratify

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Speaker 5: the deal. The streamers, particularly Netflix, are hiding something. Whether

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Speaker 5: it's good or bad remains to be seen. Anyway, He

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Speaker 5: has a big breakdown of these numbers and a hypothesis

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Speaker 5: on which way to go. But I do think the

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Speaker 5: DGA should vote no and we have to have a

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Speaker 5: big labor moment. So check that out. If you are

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Speaker 5: following the writer's strike.

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Speaker 1: There you go, Miles, Where can people find you? Is

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Speaker 1: there a workimedia you've been enjoying?

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Speaker 2: Oh? He made this the recent Spartacus.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, think like that the Bartacus is in his IMDb.

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Speaker 5: When I looked at because, I was like, who is this? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks like you made a whole career out

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Speaker 4: of Spartacus.

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Speaker 2: I'm like Kirk, he was working with Kirk Douglas and

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Speaker 2: this man's like, let me tell you about AI real quick.

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Speaker 2: In the streamers me oh on Twitter, Instagram at Miles

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Speaker 2: of Greg. If you want basketball podcast, that's Miles and

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Speaker 2: Jack Gott Matt boosties the season. Just ending congratulations to

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Speaker 2: the Denver Nuggets. You've done it, suspect you put on

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Speaker 2: their name. I mean the Nuggets. I love it. I

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Speaker 2: mean I look, I saw, I heard, I know. Once

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Speaker 2: you served us a heaping plate of L's the Lakers,

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Speaker 2: I was like, this seems the best that I've seen.

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Speaker 2: And also, if you wanna hear me talk trash reality.

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Speaker 2: That's for twentyan with Sophia Alexandra and that's every Thursday,

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Speaker 2: Ish comes out nice. Is there working media? Oh? That

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Speaker 2: Idia Media? Do I have one?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yes, here's one from Brody goop To at Brody goop

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Speaker 2: To tweeted, I got a perfect SAT score, but I

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Speaker 2: didn't get into any college just because I'm Indian and

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Speaker 2: also I didn't apply and I lied about the sah.

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Speaker 2: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien

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Speaker 2: a tweet.

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Speaker 1: I was enjoying. Harrison Wine rep tweeted a guy at

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Speaker 1: McDonald's got his order and.

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Speaker 2: Said so fast. Wow.

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Speaker 1: I just smiled, looked over and said, welcome to McDonald's.

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Speaker 2: Brother.

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Speaker 1: I'm just realizing it seems like that I am sponsored

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Speaker 1: by McDonald's in this episode. Okay, I can assure you

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Speaker 1: I am.

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Speaker 2: Guys, google Jack's background you'll see he's the state McDonald's fortune.

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Speaker 2: You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeigeist. We're

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Speaker 2: at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram, we have Facebook fan

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Speaker 2: page and website Daily zeikeys dot com where we post

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Speaker 2: our episodes and our footnote where we link off to

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Speaker 2: the information that we talked about. In today's episode as

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Speaker 2: well as a.

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Speaker 1: Song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, there's a

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Speaker 1: song that you think people might enjoy.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, I think there is a song that you

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Speaker 2: might enjoy. This is a remix of the from the

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Speaker 2: JJ Doome album. That is another like collaborative m F

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Speaker 2: doom uh tape. But this is a remix by one

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Speaker 2: half of the Neptunes, Chad Hugo. This is a track

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Speaker 2: called govnor GUV Apostrophe n O R, but the Chad

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Speaker 2: Hugo remix and it's nice for those of us who

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Speaker 2: remember the Neptunes era. It's just nice to hear that

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Speaker 2: sort of met Neptune's ish esthetic over MF doom and

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Speaker 2: so that we're.

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Speaker 1: Playing when Courtney joined the Zoom, I yeah, I was,

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Speaker 1: I was again.

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Speaker 2: This is the dope Yeah yeah. Check it out on

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Speaker 2: the footnotes. Todaily is the production of iHeartRadio. For more

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Speaker 2: wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going

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Speaker 2: to do it for us this morning, back this afternoon

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Speaker 2: to tell you what is trending, and we will talk

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Speaker 2: to y'all. Bye, good bye,