WEBVTT - Conversation with a Geek 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:02.560 Good looking out for checking out Another episode and no 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:05.000 sentence with Me the l O and my Man Peter 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:07.720 Boss brought to you by Charlotte Mane, Ship, Black Effect 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:10.840 Podcast Networking in our Heart. Think it ain't no intro. 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:13.560 We ain't got no intro, Pete, Mike ain't even in 0:00:13.560 --> 0:00:21.279 front of him and Ship, So I don't know what's 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:23.760 funny is like? Not having the intro seemed a lot 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:26.599 better when you're just working on it, but when you 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:30.240 actually the podcast, you realize how much you need a 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:36.120 sucking intro. Yeah, didn't we record some canned intros? Then? 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:41.839 Was horrible? Done? Already done? It was horrible though. It 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:46.400 sounds like a game showing ship like the prices right, Yeah, 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:50.120 that's what kid, Because how you come to a crypto 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:53.680 do a podcast and you want like these super prices 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:57.280 right intro like I'm Bob Barker or something. You should 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:00.240 just have um saw it and be the intro. Oh 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:03.240 everything look at this or just used to just used 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:06.160 to de beat from it. Yeah, this is how flip that. 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:09.720 That's my new thing right here. Blue lives matter. So 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:11.679 I took the police ship and then put a blue 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:13.560 band down and with a blue Lives Matter for the 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:16.440 Blue Lives Matter strip. Look at this ship. That's not 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:20.240 bad gangster for me. But that's the type of bush 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:24.320 it I'm on. Man. Uh no ceilings conversations with a 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:30.280 geek DJ. Motherfucking head man. You gotta introduce the pod. 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:34.600 You gotta introduce yourself. Niggas know the low No, but 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:36.640 I know, but you you're supposed to do some sort 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:40.160 of formal intro. Why this is the l O if 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:42.280 if a nigga click, see the thing is a nigga 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:44.280 had to click on the podcast and he had to 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:46.480 click on our name to know what. I know that. 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:48.200 But I'm saying, you're still supposed to be like, yo, 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:50.160 this is what I'm doing, This is who I am. 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:52.800 Like you could say this the llo I'm cripping right 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:54.720 that to be your intro. Yeah, but I hate when 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:56.960 people you already know what is No, nigga, we don't 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:58.440 know who know what I'm saying. You don't have that's 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:01.160 but that's what you just said. No, you literally just 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:03.600 say no. No. That's different. If you own a radio, 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:06.000 are you doing that? But if somebody is coming to 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:08.600 your ship because you know you gotta find a podcast, right, 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:10.160 you gotta go in there now. I know, but I 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:12.600 know what you're saying. They came to you for you. 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:14.720 But what I'm saying is, so it's like if you 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:16.200 bought my album and I said you already know what 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:18.640 it is, you already that's not true, because what if 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:21.280 I discover you through like after you after a podcast 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:24.360 go off another podcast play? Oh? Is that how it worked? 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:29.120 Like even even if you listen to like sports on 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:32.919 the radio, you have to find the station, but every 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:36.600 five minutes they paused for station identification. They do that. 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:41.760 I'm starting a pastation. I'm just saying, this is no 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:44.840 sillings every five minutes yourself and what you do or 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:49.320 who you are. Because if I'm listening to brilliant idiots 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:51.200 and your ship come on right after, it's just I'm 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:54.200 just letting it play like a playlist on Spotify. Oh 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:57.440 that's how it worked. Yeah, okay, So this is the 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:01.080 l O logan all around the world. My man Peter 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:04.240 beat and the motherfucker's Spott Peter. That's right, I don't 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:10.680 have to change my name to Peter CEOs and DJ 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:18.200 head head greetings, and I remember when head wasn't a DJO, right, 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:22.120 And It's funny because I didn't even think when head 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:24.919 became a DJ, well, when I kind of mean to 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:27.799 become of a DJ. I just wanted somebody smart around 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:30.560 me all the time. I'm not gonna lie like I'm 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:33.040 being honest, because I would have my brother. Shout out 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:35.320 to my brother who used to manage me, and he 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:37.880 just would not take none of this ship. Seriously, gonna care. 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:39.200 He's gonna hear me because me, y'all, but he know 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:43.440 it's true. Headed, this nigger got bitches, he got a party, 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:46.960 all kinds of ship, and I just never felt like, 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:49.960 you know, we was winning enough. They felt like we 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:53.280 were winning. I didn't feel like. I was like, nah, man, 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:56.440 it's like plaquxing, you know, awards, and I ain't got 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:58.840 none of this ship. So it didn't matter that, you 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:00.760 know what I'm saying. I had all kinds cool cars 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:03.160 or some property. I was like, no, that's some real winds. 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:06.280 I wanted to get somebody else around me that was intelligent, 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:08.720 that was smart. So I was like, man, head Man, 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:11.160 you should become a DJ. Man. You already played the records. 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:13.160 I mean he was back there playing the records. Anyway, 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:15.320 he went with it. You know what I'm saying. But 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:17.039 he was smart enough to pick it up. I didn't. 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:20.240 It's crazy because how you end up being really good 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:24.720 at DJ. That was funny. Hey, it was funny because 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:26.640 I didn't really I'm gonna tell you when I realized it, right, 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:28.960 So I just got you off cover. It's funny because 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:31.560 it's something I never chip off of. So we had 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:36.000 that show by Mexico. What was that Colexico or that 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:41.600 was no, No, it's down there's Colexico or callie ment 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:43.960 called Colexico. What's over there down there by the south? 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:49.200 What's it called? It's a specific city name. As soon 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:52.120 as we said, we don't know, yeah, yeah, right off 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:54.760 the Collexica. But it's next to Colexico. It's the more 0:04:54.760 --> 0:05:01.880 popular time. No Colexico. Hold up, I on even remember Colexica. 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:04.800 But it's funny. We got a show down there right. 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:07.440 This show is to maybe three hours away or something, 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:11.560 and I'm like, damn, man, we gotta do this show. 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:17.760 The Mexicali. MEXICALI and the DJ was so bad, right, 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:19.359 so I'm like, damn, I'm abad to get up and 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:21.200 wrapping front of these people. They just doing all kind 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:23.880 of ship because the DJ is so bad. It was like, no, God, 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:25.320 I'm for to bring him to the floor. I'm gone 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:30.760 for thirty minutes. I was like, okay, people turned down Nigga, 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:32.800 Like you know, I didn't. I didn't realize the power 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:35.000 of the DJ at that point. I wasn't really in 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:38.320 the hip hop fully, I just was the product. So 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:42.080 he goes on thirty minutes earlier before I'm supposed to 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:46.159 go on, and uh, he starts playing records and I'm 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:49.400 looking at this motherfucker watch the floor right, Pete, And 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:52.320 he's seeing what's moving everybody, and it's like he's shipping 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:55.560 playlists in real time, Like okay, that's what y'all on 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:58.760 got you bamn, he moving ship and doing come into 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:02.960 the next record within fifteen minutes, so we might be 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:08.080 talking about six songs. Everybody's on the floor or you 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:10.520 you have to. I just I've never been like a 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:14.200 technical person, Like I'm technical when it comes to my brain, 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:16.720 but like I'm not talented like like as far as 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:19.680 like I'm not a dope DJ turntables, But I just 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:22.680 read crowd because and I think, you know, it's crazy. 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:25.400 I realized this, Uh, when I was talking to dance. 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:28.440 I was talking to DJ Dent shout the dance shot 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:31.680 to CALLI still the clippers. Both of them, you know, 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:36.000 looked out for me coming up. But um, I realized 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:39.480 that when I was DJ, and the reason why I'm 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:41.279 so good at reading crowds because I never had my 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:44.320 own equipment, so I had to practice in real time 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:48.279 at the club. So because that was I didn't have 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:50.160 my own equipment, so I would they would just let 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:53.200 me hop on like dancing, and Callie would just let 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:54.960 me r B A D let me hop on before 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:57.080 like we were doing our club All Star and all 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:59.240 that ship with pooling them. They would let me hop 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:01.719 on and so I had to just practice while the 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:05.279 people was coming in the club. But I think that's important. 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:07.600 And even though you said like you feel like you're 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:10.440 not technical, I still feel like you always have a 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:13.200 technical approach even with the human mind, even if they 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:17.320 don't know that they're like easy to program like a computer. 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:20.040 You feel me that's how you always approached it. And 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:23.040 it makes me laugh because because it's like I remember, 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:25.360 and then when we finally went on, he had everybody 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:26.720 at the front of the stage and I was like, 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:29.800 this is crazy, right, now I was like, damn, this 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:34.800 motherfucker then figured it out. So they had to be 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:40.640 two thousand and nine early because it was before. It's 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.840 definitely before we went on tour. So I remember that, 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:45.880 and then every show on the tour, I was like, man, 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:50.720 you just went out there. You always like control and 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:53.640 and slowly watching that progression happened was crazy, you know 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:54.960 what I I mean. We I don't think we ever talked 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:56.480 about it because we was all trying to all do 0:07:56.600 --> 0:08:01.480 our and um, I remember old right when you finally 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:04.160 was antagonizing me enough about my records, and it made 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:05.760 sense to me, you know what I mean, because it 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:07.840 gotta make sense or it gotta open you up. You 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:11.560 have to be open for um, you have to be 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:14.280 receptive to the information. And something you told me probably 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:16.760 two times before, and then that third time it made sense. 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:20.080 And I remember you showing me right on the table 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:22.680 like now look, you just and I just tripped. So 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:24.440 for a minute, I was kind of more dazed that 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:27.480 you was able just to transition through music, and I'm like, damn, 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:30.080 this is crazy, this nigga. We're just telling jokes at 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:33.560 the stage, it would be and it's like so fast, 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:35.480 but That's how it was for me as an MC. 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:38.160 So that's the funny part. Like I went from like 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:41.160 people like acting like I couldn't rhyme and we don't 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:42.960 slamming the door in my face to three years later 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:44.760 him like, hold up, nigga, we could do whatever you 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:48.320 want to do. So to watch other like intelligent people 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:50.760 figure it out. But even then, right, and then you 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:53.800 kind of sent me down that world wind of discovery 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:56.000 and hip hop and I start, you know, all that 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:58.600 whole month when I'm reading and I'm like, we're looking 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.760 for producers. I'm like, no, Niggi, you're the producer. You're like, 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:06.720 hold up, nigga, looks up. So he sent me so Maria, 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:09.520 this motherfucker. And we told this story a couple of times. 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:12.520 But fucking heading right, the head is my DJ. So 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:14.800 he was making fun of my songs in the studio 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:17.880 one day, right, and he was like, why is all 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:20.920 your fucking songs slow? And at that time I had 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:24.560 no idea about the tempo of music, like never seen 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:26.360 a man. I've seen a man died was the same 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:30.679 speed to me as Gin and Juice or no. But 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:34.080 the g thing and it's obviously you know obviously today, 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:38.040 I know, it's like a real separation for me. At 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:41.200 that time, I just thought ballots and rap songs and 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:47.120 then Luke that was my speed ballot rap songs, Luke 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:52.079 booty bass right, So that's it was three speeds. So 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:54.640 when he finally got me to figure it out right, 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:55.959 and he was like, no, I'm telling you need this 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:58.640 ship slow. N He going to booth making, putting lyrics 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:01.560 over the beat all my the song slow just so 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:03.480 I finally like, man, what are you talking about? So 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:05.559 he put out the tables, put out the lap and 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:10.160 just get through, you know, playing this ship. And I'm like, damn. 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:13.760 He like, tap your chest sounds like some penitentiary ship. 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:16.040 So I'm tapping my chest and I got a good 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:19.880 sense of rhythm, right, he playing my songs and all 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:21.880 the people I'm influenced. But I said, see that's all 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:24.240 that the scar face this ship slow. He started playing 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:27.040 West Coast Ship and I started tapping my ship fast 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:30.000 and I was like, oh ship, this ship is different. 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:34.079 So I go home. I'm in this crazy world wind 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:36.400 of just now I'm discovering records. I didn't figure out 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:38.920 all kind of ways to find samples. Now I didn't 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:42.240 trace it all the way down to funk, and I'm like, damn, well, 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:44.720 that's why Dan him is a ship because the niggas 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:47.079 was all DJ's And then it hit me like whoa, 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:51.240 It's like, oh, this nigga can make the beat. Mind 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:54.920 you head a plagued though keyboard. He never made no 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:58.240 be to thought about it. But I'm like, no, nigga, 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:01.400 you can make it. And I'm can obviously the niggas. 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:03.480 We got niggas in the studio. Shout out to Tommy, 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:06.680 shout out the Jimbo, shout out to Peru for me, 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:08.880 shout out to Quiz, shout out to Jay Real, all 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:12.080 the homies. At that time, that was day Yeah. That 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:18.120 was familiar with the the technical part of programming, you 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:21.320 know music. So I'm gonna here. I'm like, hey, you 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:22.600 need to come to the studio and make this business. 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:24.040 Like nick I ain't never made no beach. I'm like, 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:26.440 it don't matter, nigga, you can make it now. I 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:29.280 can't catch him up, you know, from when he sent 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:32.080 me into that world wind, I'm like, nigga, you can 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:34.280 make it. I'm threatening like, no, nigga, you gotta come 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:40.560 up here. You started this ship. I'm mad, bro, because 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:44.560 I'm so mad, But I'm mad because I had never 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:48.440 I'm not used to being ignorant. It's something that i've 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:50.760 been working with. It's different if if I never funk 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:52.960 with it. But I've been working with this music ship 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:57.080 at that point almost seven years? Eight years? How could 0:11:57.120 --> 0:12:00.800 I be this ignorant? So I'm like, you gotta make it. 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:03.200 I don't got time to explain why. I'm like, trust me, 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:05.280 you can make it. So he comes to the studio. 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:08.959 We all go to the studio and I'm like, look, 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:12.439 we're gonna find a sample fifteen years old. Feel me, 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:14.679 it's gonna be right in that time period you picked 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:17.640 the sample. I mean, and these niggas, it's gonna tell them. 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:20.120 They're gonna be able to execute what you're saying. Tell 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:22.720 them what you want to do. Man, I don't know. 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:25.400 I'm like, I'm telling you this is all these niggas, DJs, 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:27.360 you know, quick as DJ Jo. I'm just telling Nick 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:32.760 John's DJ, DJ Puff, Nika, these all DJs. You can 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:36.199 make it full. So he's like, all right, dude, I 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:38.320 kindly meant to it, all right, but it's the truth. 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:41.839 So he we're going through samples and that motherucker job 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:45.560 do do do do do? Du do do do do? 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:48.280 He's like, all right, let's do that one. I was like, 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:50.920 cool man, So we looped that s it up. Remember 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:57.000 we tried uh, we tried uh cute first in the 0:12:57.000 --> 0:13:00.840 club that boom boom boom boom boom boom. We tried 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:04.760 that ship first. But I was like, nah, it was cool, 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:06.800 but it was cool. It wasn't it. But I think 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:10.160 you know what it was is I think it was 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:12.080 because that was just the med and it was no 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:15.200 melody either, and it was a melody, but the melody 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:18.920 was lower his low versus the high the worm that's 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:23.800 on this where that melody is a lot more piercing. Uh. 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:27.640 In the club was like, Basse, it's just mids, you know, 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:30.480 so the melody is lower. So he was like, nah, 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:33.680 that's cool. But nah, So we find that when he's 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:36.720 telling them what to do. Don't get me wrong, they're 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:39.320 offering information as well. But he's telling them, now, we're 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:41.480 gonna do this groove. And he was humming the eight 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:48.040 oh eight and they was putting it together, and I remember, um, 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:52.280 do you remember do you remember when um? Remember? Okay, 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:55.480 So remember at that time obviously like you had tie 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:59.440 Joe Mustard, like all of them is popping, they booming 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:04.839 at this time, killing problem. So I remember when we 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:07.760 cut the sample, I was like, I want to go 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:10.440 and stop to create a group. That was the different 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:12.440 part and I was gonna get to that. I'm glad 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:15.120 you said that because he was like, yeah, chopped the 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:18.040 sample right there. And I'm like, why would you chop 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:20.720 the sample? The loop is not fin He's like, no, 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:24.440 it's gonna create this bob the bob. We'll do what 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:26.400 the nigga said. Man, dude, did Nick cut it? To 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:29.320 cut it? And I'll remember when the beat was finished 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:32.280 and I was listening to them like and is this 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:35.080 ship really gonna work? And I was like, fucking you know, 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:37.320 it's gotta work. This is what it just sounds like. 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:40.080 And it I don't think we really registered that it 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:42.880 sounded good to us because I think at that time 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:48.280 people wasn't doing it. Nobody was right there at that time. 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:52.160 So I remember sending it to see Balling in real 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:54.040 time and see Balling sent the hook back like this 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:56.880 ship don't happen. See Balling sent the hook back probably 0:14:56.880 --> 0:15:00.120 about fifteen minutes after we sent him the beat, I 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:03.200 was like, damn. And then uh, we take it to 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:07.640 Tie and we were fun with Ti in a small studio. 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:10.200 He was wearing them super tight as saggy pads and 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:12.480 bicky pads. Tout me out because you're my boy. Do 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:14.920 you remember? Do you remember when I told you we're 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:17.920 gonna put TI first and this my song? Why an't 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:20.840 putting on God? But no, because he had a whole 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:24.000 different thing. And this is, this is what this is 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:25.840 why I always say he was the producer of the song. 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:29.040 He's seen a vision top to bottom. It wasn't just 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:31.760 programming a beat or making a beat or being a 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:33.920 part of that. But to know now we're gonna have 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:36.880 Tied first. I'm looking at him like thinking this my song. 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:41.320 But he had a vision for this song and that 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:44.600 was important. He's So that's even more of a testament 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:47.400 that you've seen the song. See a lot of producers 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:51.120 are just they're like sending beats out the somebody rapping. 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:54.680 You actually seen, You actually seen the song all the 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:57.640 way through. You watched the song happened top to bottom. 0:15:57.680 --> 0:15:59.920 So when we went and got Tied, and I remember 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:02.480 recording sounded so weird. I was like, oh my god, 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:04.720 this ain't gonna work. And Tommy was like, no, I'm 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:06.920 gonna cleaning up. I got it. He was trying to 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:10.160 figure out how to chop the big chopped party times like. 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:12.640 Tommy was like, no, shout out to T G Guns 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:14.320 what up? And he was like, no, I got this. 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:16.760 So he cleaned it up and we came back the 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:18.440 next day. I was like, oh it, dude, sound kind 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:20.760 of cool. So then I went in there. I figured 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:23.520 out my rapping about ten fifteen minutes. So I went 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:25.560 there to talk my ship and we finished up. Tommy 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:27.760 cleaned it up. I was listening and I was like, 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:29.840 I don't know he was listening. He was like, I 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:31.880 don't know Tommy was listening. He was like, I don't know. 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:35.680 The motherfucker who knew it was a smash the first 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:37.680 minute he heard it was the person who was the 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:40.680 most m C and hip hop of us all Quiz 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:43.000 came in. That motherfucker. He said play it. He's like, 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:44.680 I don't know what you're talking. My ship's a hit. 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:50.240 Yeah yeah. I was like, Queenz said this, this don't 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:52.800 even like this type of music, and I was like 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:55.520 fuck it. And that's how that ship happened, you know. 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:57.360 And you know the other part, the other part that 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:00.640 science about it too is I remember when when I 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:04.760 was teaching about about bpm, and I had because I 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:06.760 was trying to get on the radio. I was trying 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:08.199 to do mix shows wherever they would let me get 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:10.200 on the radio. So I had access to the mixed 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:13.440 show list of all the songs on on the West 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:17.480 Coast as far as like the rhythmic radio list, and 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:19.639 so what I did was I averaged it out. So 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:23.919 at that time, the lowest BPM song at radio mix 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:26.600 show was like eight nine bpm and the highest one 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:28.639 was I think was slow Down at the time Clyde 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:30.879 Carson Team, and that was one hundred and one. So 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:34.680 when we was doing it, when he was learning about bpm, 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:36.600 he was like, let's make it pm and be right 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:38.639 in the middle between ninety and d VPM, Like now 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:41.440 we're gonna make it ninety six. And he was like why, 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:45.000 I said, because when you pitched the turntable when I'm DJ, 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:47.119 like we we at this time we're talking about getting 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:49.639 the mix show on the radio because streaming wasn't the 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:52.480 thing at that time, right, So if you want to 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:54.439 get in the mix on the you gotta fit right 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:58.240 in with right in with they mixes right. So at 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:01.840 the time, they was DJ all day on the radio. 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:03.400 So I'm like, we want to fit in the mix show? 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:05.200 All right, how do we fit in the mix show? Well, 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:08.000 the fastest show, and I just just hold that at 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:10.879 that time, like radio is mixed show. That's what he's 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:13.240 saying to you. So DJs was doing all of the 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:17.760 work all day program all day. I actually did the math. 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:20.120 It was seventeen and a half hours in the mix 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:22.160 out of twenty four hours in a day. That type 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:25.200 of that's what make yeah. So I did the math 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:27.919 on it right. So after that, I'm like, all right, 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:29.119 we need to fit in the mix show. He was 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:31.359 like making bpm. I'm like, no, we're gonna make it 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:34.160 ninety six bpm. He's like, what's the difference? I said, 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:36.600 because when you pitched the turntable, you speed a song up, 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:39.120 you slow a song down, you speed it up three 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:41.240 before you notice the difference, like it sounds like a 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:44.080 chipmunk or you can hear it sound faster on the radio. 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:46.560 So if you speed it up three, you can't really 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:49.240 hear the difference with the neked ear. That means that 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:51.600 I can go from ninety six to ninety nine. So 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:53.479 if I'm playing a song at a hundred and one, 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:55.080 I could slow that down to ninety nine and I 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:57.920 could blend with that song, right and then ninety six, 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:00.240 I could slow down to ninety three and catch any 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:02.720 song from nineties. So now I can mix with every 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:06.320 song on the radio. You feel me decide that, So 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:09.440 that was another like that was important though that you know, 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:13.600 it was funny. That's the thing about certified. Before we 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:16.960 even knew it. We remember at that time what was 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:18.960 playing can't tell me nothing. It was can't tell me 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:23.360 nothing good like, So we right there with those songs. 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:26.359 So shout out to tune. Feel me shout out to you, 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:29.440 because that really got us our first joint. And that's 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:33.040 really what helped our first song get into a plawn 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:35.960 position on radio stations because that was the popping the 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:38.800 song at the time, and it was the same rhythm, tempo, 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:41.720 excuse me of our song. That's audio analytics for you 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:44.359 right there, fucking geek. And what's funny it works with 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:46.600 me because I'm a geek at heart too, Like my 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:49.280 mind thinks like that from how I used to break 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:51.480 down how we should move things or push out so 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:54.200 many c ds. The first time when I decided that 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:57.200 thirty forty thousand was a number for White Lightning was 0:19:57.280 --> 0:19:59.240 based off of when I would go to end Scope 0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:02.040 with Garrett and the sales charts for every West Coast 0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:05.159