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Speaker 1: Cool Zone Media.

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Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to Cool People Did Cool Stuff, a

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Speaker 2: podcast that comes out every week that talks about cool

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Speaker 2: people who did cool stuff. I'm your host, Margaret Kiljoy,

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Speaker 2: and this is part three of four, so go back

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Speaker 2: and listen. But also I have a guest. It's Mia

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Speaker 2: Hi Miya Hi.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Mia Wong. I am back once again to Patagonia.

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Speaker 3: I'm very very excited.

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Speaker 2: Hell yeah, they totally wrapped up in a plastic fleece.

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Speaker 2: What does the company sell? Is that what they sell?

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Speaker 2: I imagine they'm selling fleeces. Our producer is Sophie, who

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Speaker 2: is not a ghost who died five years ago. Accounts

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Speaker 2: not that no one, No one's ever seen Sophie in person.

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Speaker 2: Sophie does the whole thing with the video often has

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Speaker 2: as long as I've known her, I actually think that

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Speaker 2: you might actually be in early AI voice. Was never

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Speaker 2: a person at.

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Speaker 1: A long time, but I preferred being called a ghost.

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm sorry, fucking bought Definitely a ghost, not a

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Speaker 2: ghost in the machine, a ghost outside of the machine.

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Speaker 2: So uh oh. And our producer, so before this, Sophie

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Speaker 2: was like, oh you didn't write your pre amboy, You're

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Speaker 2: going to suck it up, and I was like, I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to suck it up, but I did, and

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Speaker 2: our audio engineers Ian every wants to say, Hi Ian,

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Speaker 2: Hi Ian, Hiene.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that was a tertle Hien.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, that's okay. We can't do anything till Sophie

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Speaker 2: says it anyway, So hi Hienne, okay ya are you

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Speaker 2: going to give it another shot?

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Speaker 3: Oh? You know, yes, yes I will, Hien.

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Speaker 1: And as we record this, today is Ian's birthday.

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Speaker 2: Happy Birthday, Happy birthday, Ian, and anyone should flood Ian's

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Speaker 2: social media. Our theme music was written by Unwoman And

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Speaker 2: as I already mentioned, this is part three or four,

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Speaker 2: you could start here. I guess it would make some sense.

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Speaker 2: If you can handle comic books, you can handle it.

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Speaker 2: So last week we talked about Argentina's anarchist movement. We

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Speaker 2: talked about all the crazy stuff that they got up

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Speaker 2: to from the startup to about nineteen nineteen or up

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Speaker 2: to specifically nineteen nineteen and the Tragic Week, but none

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Speaker 2: of it had to do much with Patagonia. And the

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Speaker 2: whole point was that I promised you Patagonia. So now

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Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about fucking Patagonia. You ready to learn about.

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Speaker 3: I'm very excited. I'm very excited to Patagonia.

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Speaker 2: I guess actually the whole fleece thing, it really ties

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Speaker 2: the two together. Patagonia used to be basically just exploited

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Speaker 2: for sheep farming. That was like its economic purpose from

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Speaker 2: a capitalist exploit, primitive accumulation, lens whatever, to be basically

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Speaker 2: just exploited for sheep farming. But mia, don't worry, things

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Speaker 2: have changed. It's now also exploited for oil and gas

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Speaker 2: as well. It was waiting for the petrochemicals to show up.

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Speaker 2: They always do. I now, that's what they do until

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Speaker 2: it's too hot for anything, and they'll probably continue on

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Speaker 2: after that. So it used to be all wool. Now

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Speaker 2: it's also meat production because refrigeration got better enough that

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Speaker 2: world and then eat it in a different part of

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Speaker 2: the world, which is cool and good. And sheep farming

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Speaker 2: is slowly desertified in the area it's like already a desert, right,

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Speaker 2: But it's like desertifying doesn't mean just like literally making

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Speaker 2: way the ecology works. There was a huge sheep farming

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Speaker 2: last time. The conquest of the desert and Patagonia was

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Speaker 2: largely controlled by these I don't have another word form

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Speaker 2: essentially a neoliberal form of feudalism. The translation I read

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Speaker 2: called them mostly mostly called them peons. Sheep shit the

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Speaker 2: literal shit of the sheep, fucked up lagoons, sheep eating,

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Speaker 2: eroded the soil. The serfs and the peons are they're

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Speaker 2: how the racialized structure of the United States works. You know,

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Speaker 2: ways of creating different racialized categories, so you have a

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Speaker 2: more complex racial caste system rather than like, if you

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Speaker 2: have indigenous ancestry, you're indigenous. Most of the poor rural

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Speaker 2: workers that we'll be talking about would largely be considered

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Speaker 2: racial standards. I don't know how they themselves identified. They

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Speaker 2: original inhabitants of the land. So I'm going to largely

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Speaker 2: racialized bullshit. So there's wool. World War one sends wool

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Speaker 2: prices sky high, and the boom gets boomier. The benefits

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Speaker 2: everyone who works for a living instead of anyone who

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Speaker 2: economy do trickle down, So boom nothing good, you know whatever,

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Speaker 2: there's a good thing. It doesn't affect the poor. There's

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Speaker 2: a bad thing. It does affect the poor. During the war,

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Speaker 2: the rich in Patagonia got even richer. By nineteen twenty, however,

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Speaker 2: the wool market was saturated around the world and Patagonian

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Speaker 2: wool was sitting in port with nowhere to go. This

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Speaker 2: bit of a funk. The peso's at an all time

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Speaker 2: aren't worthshit. Now that the war is over, Yeah, who

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Speaker 2: could have guessed? Yeah, And at the beginning of the crisis.

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Speaker 2: The landowners were like, hey, government, help us out. We're

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Speaker 2: But the liberal government, you know, we have his new

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Speaker 2: government since nineteen sixteen, the Radical Civic Union. They're like, now, whatever,

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Speaker 2: good the Radical City Union is going to do. In

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Speaker 2: this story, President President Dagoshin is the guy who took

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Speaker 2: how all the the ranch owners like did all this

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Speaker 2: Just like the pushing borders I'm under the impression a

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Speaker 2: So President Ergoshen is like, all right, we got to

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Speaker 2: And I mean Argentina had stolen it in the first place,

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Speaker 2: with that come on right, the unreasonable. Yeah, he is

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Speaker 2: woven throughout this story. He's a really interesting character. The

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Speaker 2: Santa Cruz and Irrigoshian. Let this other falcon. Remember there's

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Speaker 2: their full names, and it was like, no one knows

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Speaker 2: old right wing party, right, he's not the new radics

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Speaker 1: I love it, like that the rich Bastards Union.

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Speaker 2: They're everywhere like this was like, are they are like

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Speaker 2: meeting to fix prices and absolutely meeting to strike, break

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Speaker 2: the oligarchs in Santa Cruz. And there's this cross class

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Speaker 3: For a while.

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Speaker 2: Because the radical Citvic union represents the middle class primarily

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Speaker 2: doesn't stick around. Push comes to shove. The middle class

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Speaker 2: backs the oligarchs, but for now they're doing good. The

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Speaker 2: things like the Rural Society and the Patriotic League. We

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Speaker 2: They're the Proud Boys of Argentina. The rich are organizing

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Speaker 2: that come starting about ten years after where we're at now.

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Speaker 2: But here where we are Patagonia, things are gearing up

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Speaker 2: from both sides, right, because the anarchist papers are like, hell, yeah,

428
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Speaker 2: we if I get that cop in the nuts they are,

429
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 2: and then the other ones are like quite unfortunately due

430
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Speaker 2: to the irresponsible behavior of these women one officer that is,

431
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 2: you know whatever, anyway, And now I want to reference

432
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Speaker 2: the single most frustrating thing I've ever written a history book.

433
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Speaker 2: It is not the fault of the history book that

434
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Speaker 2: I'm reading. So much shit was happening in the southern

435
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 2: half of the southern chunk of in Patagonia. So much

436
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 2: shit is happening that the following is only a single sentence.

437
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 2: The anarchist workers of the Chilean province of maggiyanis quote

438
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 2: occupied the city and administered it through workers' councils. That

439
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 2: is one sentence in a four hundred and seventy five

440
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 2: page book. If this had happened in Europe, we'd be

441
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 2: singing songs about it. I would know the name of

442
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 2: the city where it happened instead of just the province.

443
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 2: What that is wild? Yeah, I don't know how long

444
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 2: it was for. All I know is that the worker

445
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 2: took over an entire city and ran it through workers

446
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 2: councils in Chile in nineteen I think I'm in nineteen

447
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 2: nineteen or so at this point, I'm not sure. So

448
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,439
Speaker 2: all this wild shit leads to the temporary suspension of

449
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 2: the Rio Diegos Worker Society, but new folks are going

450
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 2: to step up, including the main guy who becomes the

451
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 2: sort of big man of history style credit. He gets

452
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 2: the credit for this whole rebellion, and he's fucking cool.

453
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 2: He deserves credit. He didn't run the thing. But people

454
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 2: always pick a guy, right, Yeah, and the guy they

455
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 2: pick is Antonio Soto. And I know what you're thinking.

456
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 2: You're thinking, Margaret, how come there's only been one theater

457
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 2: kid so far in this week's episodes. Well, I've got you,

458
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 2: don't worry. Second theater kid has hit the towers about aging.

459
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 2: You just can't fucking handle theater kids, That's what I'm saying.

460
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Speaker 2: Antonio Soto was born in Spain in eighteen ninety sive

461
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 2: and he was born porous.

462
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Speaker 3: Fuck.

463
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 2: His family made its way to Buenos Aires when he

464
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,479
Speaker 2: was thirteen years old. His parents tried to put him

465
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 2: in school whenever they could, but they couldn't really afford it, right,

466
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 2: he needed to be working, so soon enough, He's an narcosyndicalist,

467
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 2: and then even worse, he becomes a theater kid. A

468
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 2: when he's twenty two, he joins a Spanish operetta company.

469
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 2: I had to look this up operettas I just assumed

470
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,959
Speaker 2: they were short operas, but nothing that I was like

471
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 2: reading it as if an operetta was a short opera.

472
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 2: Do you know what an operetta is?

473
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Speaker 3: Not the little opa?

474
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 2: So I guess not right, It's like sort of it

475
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: is technically it comes from the category of things called opera,

476
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 2: and it is shorter. They're more lighthearted. They are shorter,

477
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 2: and they have spoken parts and singing and dancing. They're

478
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 2: fucking musicals. Oh god, is that kind of theater kid?

479
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 3: Eh?

480
00:26:54,880 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 2: Oh No. And he's a techie because he's like joins

481
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,959
Speaker 2: the company and he's in charge of like setting up

482
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 2: the stage, the background.

483
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 3: Nothing has nothing about anarchism has ever changed.

484
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 2: No, st the same people. No. We did an episode

485
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: about Chicago nineteen twenty around almost the exact same time

486
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 2: and the Dill Pickle Club where the guy who ran

487
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 2: it was the guy who painted the set scenery for musicals.

488
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Speaker 3: It's just every I know, like twelve of this guy.

489
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's great. He rules like no notes, Antonio

490
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 2: Soda like he's fucking straight edged vegan. Okay, we talk

491
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 2: about that part. Oh my god, nothing ever change notes

492
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 2: And he does the most theater kid anarchist thing ever.

493
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Speaker 2: They're traveling through the small town in January nineteen twenty

494
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 2: and some of the retail workers go on strike and

495
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 2: almost the entire city backs the workers. Why does the

496
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 2: almost the entire city back the workers because the stage

497
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 2: hand of the traveling feeder company is up there giving

498
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 2: fucking baller speeches and rallying everybody like he's in newsies.

499
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 2: He's just like.

500
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Speaker 3: Incredible.

501
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 2: This naturally gets him arrested and the entire troop kicked

502
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 2: out of town when they he doesn't stay in jail

503
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 2: for very long. When they make it to Rio Gee Goos,

504
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: the which is the capital of the province of Santa Cruz,

505
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 2: folks are like, hey, you should stay here and be

506
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,479
Speaker 2: an organizer. You're kind of good at this thing. And

507
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 2: he's like, I guess I do give pretty good speeches.

508
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 2: So he stays and he gets a new job. His

509
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 2: new job is beach. Yes, I made a pop culture reference.

510
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 2: He referred to it as beach worker. He was a

511
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 2: Steve Ador, but for some reason he made a thing

512
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 2: where he was like, I'm not a Steve Adoor, I'm

513
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 2: a beach worker. And I think it was like a

514
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: I think it was like a proletarian thing, right. I

515
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: think he was like, Steve Door sounds fancy. I'm a

516
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: beach work. We'll just want to get Steve Doors is

517
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 2: not a fancy job, right, No, but his job is

518
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 2: beach He loads and unloads ships. And I like it

519
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 2: because he's a six foot tall, blonde, blonde haired, blue

520
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: eyed guy, so he's just kind of ken.

521
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

522
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: He does have dirty blonde hair and one of his

523
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 2: eyes is lazy, which makes him even cooler. By May,

524
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 2: he is Secretary General of the Workers Society, which is like,

525
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 2: not like haha, I'm so good I got promoted. This

526
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 2: is a sucker's job, right, You're in charge, you're the figurehead,

527
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 2: You're the person with your head on the chopping block.

528
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 2: But somebody's got to do it. And if not Antonio's

529
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 2: Ken Soto, that's what people call him, then who. It

530
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 2: is a time of strange bedfellows. The Anarchist Union is

531
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 2: hanging out with that judge I mentioned earlier vignats As

532
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 2: they figure out a way to break the power of

533
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 2: the oligarchs right and Vignas starts selling off the assets

534
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 2: of one of the rich assholes who claimed land he

535
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 2: didn't own. But the right wing governor arrests the auctioneer

536
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: and a bunch of other people. So you have the

537
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: government fighting itself at this point, and the landowners they're

538
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: getting worried. They're freaked out because an anarchist pamphlet called

539
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 2: is a really scary name, social justice. Oh, a pamphlet

540
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: called social justice has been going around the farm hands.

541
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: In April nineteen twenty, the anarchist workers take over a ranch.

542
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 2: The governor swiftly puts it down, cracking heads and deporting

543
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: three organizers. Meanwhile, Antonio can Soto is organizing the city.

544
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: Meanwhile Antonio can Soto is organizing in the city. The

545
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: beach workers and the hotel workers go on strike and

546
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 2: they get a partial victory. The beach workers lose, but

547
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 2: the hotel workers. The hotels agree to better pay for them.

548
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,959
Speaker 2: Two hotels hold out and hire scabs and are like, nah,

549
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 2: fuck the workers, we don't give a shit. So Antonio

550
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 2: Soto and one other guy I'll quote from the historian

551
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 2: Oswaldo Bayer so Soto and a compatriot enter one of

552
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: the hotels and use their fis to try to convince

553
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 2: the holdouts to stop work. This shockingly ends in his arrest,

554
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: but he's friends at the liberal judge who's trying to

555
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: destroy the oligarchs, So who hates the governor, so Vigna

556
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: sets him free.

557
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 3: That's that's incredibly funny.

558
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, like you're just trying to beat up scabs.

559
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: Nothing wrong with that. I'm the government. The rest of

560
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: the workers boycott these hotels, and honestly, the boycotts that

561
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 2: these that the this union organizes are some of the

562
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 2: most effective things that they do. Taxis won't take passengers there,

563
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,479
Speaker 2: guests are informed about their political the political choice they

564
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 2: were making by accident, and so many go to other hotels.

565
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: I have no idea whether this involves fisticufs or not.

566
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 2: The end of this, the end of this boycott is

567
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 2: that the two hotel owners, the two who were like

568
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: holding out, who specifically hate the union, and the anarchists,

569
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 2: they have to go personally to the anarchist union hall,

570
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 2: hat literally in their hands, and beg forgiveness. They had

571
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 2: to rehire and organize.

572
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

573
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had to rehire fired organizers, and one of

574
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 2: them had to pay. The one who was like worse

575
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 2: somehow or something had to pay a hefty fine in

576
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 2: person to Antonio Soto, who then just he just counts

577
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 2: the money in front of a cheering crowd. Yeah. So

578
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: the anarchists they buy a printing press and they start

579
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: sending organizers out to more of the ranches. So the

580
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 2: cops realized that the strike is about to go general,

581
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 2: so they buy a bunch of machine guns. Anarchists call

582
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: for a day of mourning on the eleventh anniversary of

583
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 2: previous hero of the pod, Francisco Ferrere, who's a Spanish

584
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 2: anarchist who revolutionized education. They went to the cops to

585
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 2: ask for a permit, because these are the moderate anarchists.

586
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 2: They usually come in like they want a society with

587
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 2: no state, no capitalism, right, but usually their demand is

588
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 2: like stop beating children, were not serfs, you know. So

589
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 2: the moderate anarchists they want to have this this protests,

590
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 2: so they go to the cops and ask for a permit.

591
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 2: The cops say no, So the anarchists call a general strike.

592
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 2: The cops throw out the pretense of law and made

593
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: everyone in the city stay in their homes and like

594
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: paraded around with rifles. The judge Vignas is.

595
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 3: Like, what are you fucking doing? You can't just.

596
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: Suspend these what? No, and he grants workers the right

597
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 2: to gather. Soon, the right wing bosses union is boycotting

598
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 2: newspapers sympathetic to the strike. So the workers then boycott

599
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 2: the businesses that are against whatever. It's all fucking every Yeah,

600
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 2: So the chief of police personally raids the union hall

601
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 2: and files all the organized off at bayonet point to jail. Yeah.

602
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: They confiscate all the flyers calling for people to boycott businesses.

603
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 2: This is what makes them angry. Boycotts right, because the

604
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 2: police existed to protect business and capital. Fortunately those days

605
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 2: are long gone. But Vignas, the federal judge orders the

606
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 2: governor to release all the organizers. The governor refuses, and

607
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 2: it's like, I don't care that the federal judge told

608
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 2: me I have to do this. So for the third

609
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: or fourth time in the past thirty minutes of me

610
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 2: reading a script, the government has failed to learn the

611
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 2: lesson that you cannot stop anarchists by arresting their leaders.

612
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:43,720
Speaker 2: The strike spreads, and ironically, the strike was going to stop.

613
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 2: It was just going to be these boycotts. But since

614
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 2: they arrested ten people, yeah yeah, and now the rural

615
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 2: workers are getting in on it. They pour into the city.

616
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 2: Cops start beating up anyone they suspect of being Chilean,

617
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 2: which is to say, they start beating up all the

618
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: brown people. Twenty seven people are arrested. Now the government blinks,

619
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 2: the governor, sorry, the government. It's like, the government is

620
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 2: the federal government, then the governor is the rural government.

621
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 2: They're mad at each other, you know. So the governor

622
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 2: blinks and he's scared, so he freeze fifteen of the

623
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 2: twenty seven, and so the strike is like, what, there's

624
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 2: still twelve people in jail.

625
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like oh you it's like, well you've you've

626
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 3: proven that this works.

627
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 2: So yeah, so he freees all but two. Like he's like, nah,

628
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 2: but these two. So the strike is like yeah, no,

629
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: those two two, and the strike continues. The demand is

630
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 2: that all workers are set free, not some workers. So

631
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,439
Speaker 2: by November one, nineteen twenty, the remaining workers are freed,

632
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 2: and so once again the workers are like, oh we

633
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 2: we like kind of got this right, Like, our boycotts

634
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 2: are working, our strikes are working. So November three, Antonio, Sorry,

635
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 2: the state just tries to murder Antonio Soto. They send

636
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 2: some one with a knife at him in the street,

637
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 2: but sorry, you can't keep this man down. He gets

638
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 2: cut up a little bit, but the fatal blow is

639
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 2: supposedly stopped by a pocket watch. Right, incredible.

640
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 4: I know.

641
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 3: It's also like not a great like not an incredible murder,

642
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 3: Like you'd think it's the state. They'd give him a

643
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 3: gun at.

644
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 2: Least, you know, I know, maybe they like didn't want

645
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 2: to make a scene. I have no fucking clue.

646
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 3: But even even the assassins, you're getting affected by budget cuts,

647
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 3: I guess.

648
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. So what Soto does is he pretends to reach

649
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 2: for a gun, and that scares the attacker off. So

650
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 2: didn't have a gun. He's just like what you want

651
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 2: some of this, you know, like reaches for his waistband

652
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 2: and the guy's like, never mind, it runs away.

653
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 3: Long, long and glorious history of anarchists threatening people will

654
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 3: suff it doesn't exist.

655
00:36:55,000 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 2: Hell yeah. So now the workers they decided they're like,

656
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 2: all right, we've won the last couple things. We should

657
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: go on the offensive. We should start actually trying to

658
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 2: get more people, more rights and freedoms. And they already

659
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 2: know what the urban workers want, right they want a

660
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: living wage, but they don't know what the rural workers want.

661
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 2: And they're not a vanguard party, which is cool. So

662
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 2: they send delegates around the country to figure out what

663
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 2: the rural workers want before they make demands. They go

664
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 2: and ask people, what demands are you willing to fight for?

665
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 2: And then the two groups go on strike together. The

666
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 2: rural workers have already thrown down for the urban workers.

667
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 2: It's time for the urban workers to throw down for

668
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 2: the rural workers. The city is shut down, ranches are

669
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 2: shutting down. Two and this one. This is the big strike.

670
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 2: This is the reason we have this whole episode. Right

671
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: wing militias try to shut it down. They can't there's

672
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 2: not enough of them. Ay, within three days, the ranch

673
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: owners are at the negotiating table and they're willing to

674
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 2: concede to all of the demands except one. They were

675
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 2: used to recognize the union. They want to negotiate directly

676
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 2: with their own workers in the future. So the union's like, nah,

677
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 2: it's not gonna fucking work. Yes, no, and finally, at

678
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 2: the top of all of this, last Monday, I promised

679
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 2: you a man with a number for a name. But first,

680
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 2: but first, oh, well, you know what else cares about numbers?

681
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: And you know what else? Do you know who else

682
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 1: breaks their promises and things they're gonna tell you quickly.

683
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, here's some ads and we're back and we are

684
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 2: about to meet Elsa Santa Yoto. Sixty eight, so fucking cool.

685
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, cool, fucking name.

686
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 3: I should do. It was gonna be a low number, No, No,

687
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 3: sixty eight. Soon, it's gonna be like eleven nine. No.

688
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 2: I once met when I was like a street kid,

689
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: I once met this guy in Tucson. And in Tucson

690
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 2: at the time, I don't know the laws. Now, you

691
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: were allowed to like just carry any weapon you wanted,

692
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 2: as long as it wasn't like a gun. You probably

693
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,959
Speaker 2: all to carry guns too, But so the street kids

694
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 2: all carried like swords at the time. And so I

695
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 2: met this guy. His name was like fifty two or

696
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 2: something like that, and he had like a brace of

697
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 2: throwing knives across his chest, and he lived by the

698
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 2: train tracks. And I think of him every time I

699
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 2: read about sixty eight and he hung out with a

700
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:32,720
Speaker 2: guy named Diesel Daisy.

701
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, yeah, incredible.

702
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 2: Anyway, sixty eight he's an Italian bandit who spent years

703
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 2: in the horrid death prison that we've been talking about,

704
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 2: whose name I keep not writing because I'm not actually

705
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 2: one hundred percent sure about the pronunciation and it's very

706
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 2: complicated to spell, so I keep writing death prison instead,

707
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 2: which I'm now recognizing is not the way that I

708
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,479
Speaker 2: should have written the script. So sixty eight he goes there,

709
00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 2: and that's his inmate number, And why would he his

710
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 2: sick new name just because he's free now? So he's

711
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 2: sixty eight, you.

712
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 3: Know, reasonable?

713
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 2: And not only would I say he is free, I

714
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 2: would say he is one of the freest people who

715
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 2: ever lived. The rural organizers, they are hard riding, hard

716
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 2: fighting motherfuckers. They go ranch to ranch evading bosses, handing

717
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 2: out union cards and teaching people that together, collectively, workers

718
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: can have self determination. And while they're there they rob

719
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 2: the ranch owners. Ay, before these guys were anarchists, they

720
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 2: were regular outlaws. I don't know what sixty eight did,

721
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 2: but one of his compatriots is referred to as a

722
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 2: brawler who spent five years in prison for stabbing a guy.

723
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 2: Another is most notable because all of his teeth are gold.

724
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 3: What.

725
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like the character when it's like listing all

726
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 2: of the guys right and you're like, ah, this guy's

727
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: from Russia and it's like, oh, and this guy has

728
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,959
Speaker 2: all gold teeth, you know, does he just like take

729
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 2: them from people? Well, it's the cheaper way to get

730
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 2: a crown, right, Like a cheaper gold tooth is a

731
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 2: longer lasting, cheaper crown than an enamel one. So it's like,

732
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 2: I don't know, I find it interesting. So work stops

733
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 2: at all the ranches within two weeks. The ranch owners

734
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 2: have given up. They will talk directly to the union.

735
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 2: They make a serious counteroffer. The demands that the workers

736
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,479
Speaker 2: are making are reasonable. The one that they're like going

737
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 2: to war for and like robbing everyone over and shit.

738
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 2: These are their demands that they will stop doing this over.

739
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 2: They want no more than three men in a four

740
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 2: square meter room. They want cots or beds instead of bunks.

741
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 2: They want ventilation and disinfection of their bedrooms. They want

742
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 2: a fucking bathroom. They want the workers to not have

743
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 2: to pay for their own lighting. They want three meals

744
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: a day with actual variety. They want once a week laundry.

745
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 2: They're even, I think, willing to fucking pay for the laundry.

746
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 2: But I'm not sure workers will buy their own clothes,

747
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 2: but owners must buy the beds. They want to not

748
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 2: have to work and shit weather unless there's an exception.

749
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 2: There's an exception for emergencies. They're like, oh, if this

750
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 2: thing doesn't happen to day, will never happen, right, because

751
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 2: they're like not being unreasonable. They want a first aid

752
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 2: kit available, and they want anyone who is fired or

753
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 2: let go to be driven back to where they were

754
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 2: hired from rather than just like, oh, sorry, you're fired

755
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 2: and you are in the middle of nowhere with no

756
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 2: money and they want decent pay. They're like not even

757
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 2: asking for a lot of money. Yeah, this is like

758
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 2: these are all just like incredible. This isn't even this

759
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,720
Speaker 2: is like we what like, the thing we are striking

760
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 2: for is conditions that are like we want a really

761
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 2: really shitty dorm room. Yeah totally, but we want a

762
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 2: bathroom attached to our dorm room, you know. Yeah. They

763
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 2: didn't even demand closed shops, which is to say they

764
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 2: didn't demand that all workers at the ranch be unionized.

765
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 2: They only demanded that workers have the right to be

766
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 2: unionized and that bosses cannot prevent workers from unionizing. This

767
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 2: is a this was this is a moderate position. This

768
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 2: is less than what the centrist unions in the US

769
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 2: ask for. And the owners are like, you know what,

770
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: we're willing to go to war over bunks. So they don't.

771
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 2: They're like, nope, we're not going to do it. We

772
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: we our counteroffer included that we get to people put

773
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 2: people in bunks. So the owners bring in scabs who

774
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 2: are unionized into a right wing union. There's like these

775
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 2: like right wing unions that are like the Good Workers

776
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: Faction or whatever the fuck bullshit. But there's a there's

777
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 2: a problem with bringing in scabs. That problem is named

778
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: el sciente Yojo. He is a fucking bandit. He's not

779
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 2: a moderate anarchist in a city who picks moderate demands.

780
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 2: And again he's getting the big man of history thing

781
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 2: he's got like there's like two hundred or six hundred

782
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 2: or the numbers change wildly, like month to month as

783
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 2: you read the history books. But like there's a lot

784
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 2: of other people with him, and they are actually all

785
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 2: democratic and we'll talk about some other they like literally,

786
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 2: when there's like a big thing that they're deciding what

787
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 2: to do, they like sit down and vote. You know.

788
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 2: He just has the cool name. So he's the one

789
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 2: I'm writing about. When the scabs from the who get

790
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 2: shipped in from the north, When they head into the

791
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 2: hills towards the ranches, men on horseback with guns block

792
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 2: their path, firing into the air, appearing and then disappearing

793
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 2: out of the hills. The strike breakers and their police

794
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 2: escorts turn tail and just run. When the army shows up,

795
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 2: there's no trace of them because they're fucking mantles in

796
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 2: the It's incredible, and like most of them have been

797
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 2: there for a thousand like from cultures that have been

798
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 2: there for thousands of years.

799
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 3: You know, oh yeah, we know, we know how to

800
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 3: get gone when these assholes show up here.

801
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, So they run off into the hills like they're

802
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: cutting fences on the ranches. They're setting sheep free. Probably

803
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 2: not for animal rights reasons, but that is a nice

804
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 2: headcanon that I like to have. I think they're killing

805
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: a lot of ranch animals. I think that is a

806
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 2: thing that rural uprisings do, is that they're like, oh,

807
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 2: I'm going to fuck up the owner's property. So I'm

808
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 2: going to kill all these like sheep and shit we

809
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 2: talked about in some of the Irish Irish Rebel episode

810
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: a lot while back, the Molly Maguire episode. Do you

811
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 2: want to hear about more otherwise cool people killing animals?

812
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 2: I don't know why you would want to hear that.

813
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 2: What's wrong with you? So the owners come back to

814
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 2: the table and their counteroffer is rejected, and the strike continues,

815
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 2: and a minority of the less radical organizers are starting

816
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 2: to get pretty mad at the like more radical organizers.

817
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 2: They're like, we kind of want to accept the offer

818
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 2: and the strike. Now, we got a lot of what

819
00:45:55,120 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 2: we want. But the strike continues. In cities, hotel owners

820
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 2: are personally serving their guests because they have no waiters.

821
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 2: They have no workers. Right right wing militia guys are

822
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 2: having their houses bombed. In small towns where no one

823
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: has printing presses, people are just handwriting the flyers and posters.

824
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

825
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 2: Small business owners are mostly on the side of the workers,

826
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 2: and they offer striking workers goods on credit. One anarchist

827
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 2: business owner who I guess owned several stores. He offers

828
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 2: good on credit, and he goes beyond that. He's like,

829
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 2: you strike until the last man every time workers, and

830
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 2: he gives them something on credit. So cops are just

831
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 2: going around shutting down all the businesses that are extending

832
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 2: credit to workers, because again, no one is acting within

833
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 2: the comp No one is considering law when they're making

834
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 2: decisions right now, no one on any side. You know,

835
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: this is the hour of the class war, in which

836
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: the law just sort of vanishes mysteriously to like reappear

837
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: at the next full moon. Yeah, totally. And it's not

838
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 2: hypocritical for anarchists to about the law, but it is

839
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 2: hypocritical for statists. It's never stopped them, but it always annoys.

840
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 3: No, not a single time.

841
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 2: No, No Vignas is like the only guy who cares

842
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 2: about law, and even he's likes just setting people free.

843
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 2: So are like lawful neutral judge is And so there's

844
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 2: no legal justification for shutting down the businesses that extend credit.

845
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 2: It's just about power and control. The army is beating

846
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 2: up shopkeepers and quote requisitioning liquor and shit from them,

847
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 2: aka just like running around stealing shit. Sometimes the marauding

848
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 2: cops are driven off with gunfire by sympathetic hotels and

849
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 2: like like they'll like show up to try and do

850
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 2: one of these things and then the workers will be

851
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 2: like fuck you and shoot at the cops and drive

852
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 2: them away. Arrested workers are tortured and told they will

853
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 2: be killed if they don't work for nothing for the landowners,

854
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 2: because like I'm not exaggerating, they're like, you better go

855
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: actually admit that you're worth nothing, otherwise we're gonna kill you.

856
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 2: L sixty eight and his crew of two hundred anarchist

857
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 2: bandits are chasing cars on horseback and driving off the

858
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 2: marauders at gunpoint. At one point, they're so fucking mad

859
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 2: that they're also taking ranchers hostage and that they release

860
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 2: the ranchers once the ranchers promised they'll give into the

861
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 2: workers demands, which is not a fair way to extract

862
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 2: a promise from anyone. I will concede that point. Well,

863
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I think the tactical problem is okay, So

864
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: you have to threaten to kidnap them a second time,

865
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 2: because they could just say that and then go back

866
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 2: and then not given to the promises. So you have

867
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 2: to keep this is not it seems like not a

868
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 2: great way to do a hostage situation. Yeah, in one

869
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 2: small town. One small town is mostly immigrants and or

870
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: Chileans who are presented as immigrants, the tiny Argentinian population,

871
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 2: the Europeans, the whites, the Native whites. They open fire

872
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 2: on a demonstration, killing one person, wounding many. Both sides

873
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 2: are actively comparing the whole thing to the Indian Wars, well,

874
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 2: the Conquest of Desert. I'm using Indian Wars for the

875
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 2: American way of phrasing it. You know, the government and

876
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 2: owners are like, oh, they're evil bandits, just like the Indians,

877
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 2: and the workers are like, there are a bunch of

878
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 2: marauding thieves stealing from us, just like they stole the

879
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 2: place from the Indians. Finally, the ostensibly liberal liberal government

880
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 2: decides to act in the name of law and order.

881
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,919
Speaker 2: Ostensibly they're on neither the owner's side nor the worker's side,

882
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 2: and they this time that's sort of true. On December thirtieth,

883
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 2: nineteen twenty sixty of Irrigotian soldiers arrive to find a

884
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 2: city in flames, actually, because by January third, the strikers

885
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 2: in the city have just set fire to a warehouse

886
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 2: full of gasoline and oil tanks, which like I hate

887
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 2: to be like a place is asking for it based

888
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 2: on what it decides to store, but it is a

889
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 2: warehouse full of gasoline and oil tanks. The arsonists fire

890
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 2: off guns to wake people up and warn them of

891
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 2: the fire. The owning class once again realizes that half

892
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 2: Argentina is about to go full on fucking communists if

893
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 2: they don't do something, and it would have been sick

894
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 2: because it would have been libertarian communists with workers council

895
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 2: democracy instead of Vanguard Party rule. So it's put down.

896
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 2: The liberal president is like, actually, we can't have this happening, right.

897
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 2: Rich British landowners are like, aren't you going to protect

898
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 2: our private property which we will use to extract the

899
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 2: wealth of your country and have all the profits go

900
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 2: to England, And the President's like, sir, yes, sir, that's

901
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 2: my impression of their conversation. So they arrest the leaders.

902
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 2: They try to burn the printing presses, a curfew is

903
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 2: put in place, and the urban side of the strike

904
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 2: is successfully shut down. Soto Antonio Soto, he travels up

905
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 2: to Buenos Aires and he's trying to get the syndicalist FA,

906
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 2: the more liberal one to actually fucking support this strike, right,

907
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 2: And he's like, if we had better support nationwide, we'd

908
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 2: be able to do this. And his journey is harrowing.

909
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 2: The government keeps trying to arrest him en route, but

910
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 2: each time they do this twice, each time hundreds of

911
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 2: dock workers and sailors off the cops. Wow, and they

912
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 2: escort him all the way up the coast of Gwenne Sarah's.

913
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 2: But the liberal fa he gets there and the liberal

914
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 2: foura is like, how dare you criticize us? We are

915
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 2: great and perfect, and so it's for nothing and he

916
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 2: goes back empty handed. H The rural workers they're not done.

917
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 2: They are harder repress. They've got horses and guns, and

918
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 2: a fuck ton of them have lived there for thousands

919
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 2: of years. There's now six hundred bandits in the hills

920
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 2: waging war on the bosses and the cops, slipping past

921
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 2: police cordons to network with their comrades in the city.

922
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 2: Like literally they'll be like parts where like thirty bandits

923
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 2: on horses like sneak their way into the city somehow,

924
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:37,720
Speaker 2: which is amazing.

925
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 3: This whole thing just sounds like it. This whole thing

926
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 3: just sounds like the absolute wildest Western. Yeah, well, actually

927
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 3: there is one. There's a movie based on this that

928
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 3: is the Wildest Western, but it's not long enough.

929
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 2: I want like a four season i want West World

930
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 2: level quality. But just this, they're taking cops hostage left

931
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 2: and right, ambush every military force that tries to stop them.

932
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 2: Slowly the federal forces ramp up, and so enters our

933
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 2: main villain of the day, the quote unquote radical Lieutenant

934
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 2: Colonel Hector Benigo Verella. He's sent to the South with

935
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 2: the vague orders of do your duty.

936
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 3: That's not good.

937
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 2: No, No, he's the kind of guy who's so into

938
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 2: being a military guy that he's learning German. This is

939
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 2: like nineteen twenty, right, So it's not like I'm a Nazi,

940
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 2: but it's like I'm sketchy. You know. The Germans were

941
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 2: seen as the best militarists in the world. And a

942
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 2: new governor of Santa Cruz is actually appointed to It's

943
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,479
Speaker 2: no longer the conservative, it's now a radical. This doesn't

944
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 2: really make any difference to our story. More to the

945
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 2: people who are acting within it. Ranches all across the

946
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 2: country are entirely controlled by their armed workers, with bosses

947
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 2: and cops hostage, and the ranchers are finally like, we

948
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 2: give up no bunk beds. So they're like all right,

949
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 2: and the strike ends.

950
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

951
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 2: The workers win, and Virella, the lieutenant colonel, the militarys guy,

952
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 2: he actually oversees this, and he oversees the signing of

953
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 2: the thing, and like he he like doesn't he's actually

954
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 2: okay this time around, kinda we'll talk about him more.

955
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 2: It is not entirely uncontested on either side. The workers

956
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 2: agree to give up their hostages. The government agrees to

957
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 2: give up theirs like let the imprison people out. The

958
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 2: workers agree to give up their weapons. The government, of course,

959
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 2: agrees to no such thing. You know who else won't

960
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 2: give up their weapons.

961
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 3: Else?

962
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, it's not amazing. It's Saneojo and

963
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 2: two hundred other bandits that's to say, sixty eight. Yeah,

964
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 2: sixty eight doesn't give it up his fucking guns. No,

965
00:53:55,760 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 2: he is a cold, dead hands motherfucker. And because it's

966
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 2: an anarchist union, it's kind of fine. Most of it

967
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 2: gives up, right, But then the bandits are like, okay, well,

968
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 2: we'll take most of the weapons and disappear into the hills.

969
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 2: And then the like moderates are like, okay, that's fine,

970
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 2: you do you know. So the more moderate anarchists show

971
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,240
Speaker 2: up and they turn over all their weapons and Virella

972
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 2: like the government's like, wait, this is all your weapons.

973
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 2: This is like three rusty revolvers, and they're like, yeah,

974
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 2: there's totally all our weapons. This is definitely it. All

975
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 2: demands are met and they have until then, like and

976
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 2: basically it's like will they be complied with? They're waiting

977
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 2: for the next shearing season, which is like September or

978
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 2: October or something. Total fucking victory for the workers, if

979
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 2: only the owners and government weren't a bunch of lying,

980
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 2: fucking shit bags, which we'll talk about on Wednesday, Part four. Yeah,

981
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 2: you gotta wait for the part four.

982
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: Go ahead one day, Well, one day we'll have a

983
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:04,280
Speaker 1: part sixty eight.

984
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 2: And he's gonna be somebody. He's going to be the

985
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 2: money so good.

986
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be somebody so good that we need sixty

987
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: eight parts.

988
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 2: Mala testa one day whenever earned all of y'all's trust,

989
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take a year and a half. Oh no, wait,

990
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 2: half a year. I do two a week more sewing machines,

991
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 2: but If you also want something that happens every day,

992
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 2: you should listen to me A's podcast.

993
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it could happen here. It's the podcast that

994
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 3: happens five days a week about the world falling apart

995
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 3: and how you can put it back? How you sorry,

996
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 3: Jesus Christ. I say this tagline literally, you're like, not

997
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,800
Speaker 3: every episode, but like a lot of episodes. It's the

998
00:55:54,360 --> 00:56:00,399
Speaker 3: world for Jesus Christ's falling apart. Put it back together again,

999
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 3: that's the I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure I came

1000
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 3: up with that too, which makes it even more embarrassing.

1001
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 4: Gus.

1002
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 3: Somehow, hell yeah, somehow, in my hour of indeed, my

1003
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 3: ability to say it has vanished.

1004
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 2: I wish y'all could see the way that Mia gesticulates

1005
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 2: when she talks. One day, Mia, you gotta do a YouTube.

1006
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I can't think of anything Mia would hate more.

1007
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 2: It's okay, because you still have the gesticulations. It'd be

1008
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 2: worth it. I'm not trying to make your self conscious.

1009
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 2: I genuinely find it good.

1010
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 3: Anyway. It would be funny. But yeah, my middle name

1011
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 3: is face does not appear on camera.

1012
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 2: So what else do we have to plug? Well, on

1013
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 2: both of our feeds, my feed and MIA's feed, you

1014
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 2: can find the Cool Zone Media book Club, which we

1015
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 2: have finally come up with an official title. It's Cool

1016
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 2: Zone Media book Club. I can't believe you all have

1017
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 2: been calling it cool Zone book Club. That is incorrect.

1018
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 2: And next time you hear someone say cool Zone book Club,

1019
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 2: you should just hit them. Wait. No, that teams a

1020
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 2: bit much that you should say. I too like the

1021
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 2: show Cool Zone Media book Club and like passive aggressively

1022
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 2: correct the way they say it, So you should do. Sophie,

1023
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 2: what do you have.

1024
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 4: To I want to plug a really amazing episode that

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Speaker 4: our very own Shrien Lana Units did on It could

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00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 4: happen here, I dropped on today. So that's October nineteenth,

1027
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 4: nineteenth technically, I think it'll be eighteenth if you're depending

1028
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 4: on your time zone. And it's called discussing Palestine in Israel,

1029
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 4: and it's it's it's long and worth it.

1030
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 2: Okay, see y'all Wednesday.

1031
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,680
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1032
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