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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, March nineteenth, and I thought i'd fire

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Speaker 1: up a little podcast because breaking news. We had some

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Speaker 1: information that came out early on Wednesday regarding a man

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Speaker 1: So we will dive into that. I saw Jalen Milroe

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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings. Kevin O'Connell and Quessey the GM have

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Speaker 1: decided at this point in time. While they discussed, I

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Speaker 1: the job of every general manager is to do due

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Speaker 1: it was the easy thing to not bring any of

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Speaker 1: gonna give you a lot of credit. They don't sign

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Speaker 1: your checks. Your job is to thoroughly evaluate and bring

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Speaker 1: But let's face it, they did not do their due

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Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh coaches. That is not how Kevin O'Connell coaches.

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Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell wants to call pass plays, don't blame him.

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Speaker 1: That's what a lot of Andy Reid likes calling pass plays.

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Speaker 1: It's why when the talk about like, well we just

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Speaker 1: It's a humbling experience. But like they didn't think you

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Speaker 1: And I think whenever I it's hard to know with Rogers,

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Speaker 1: Prodase. I was talking to a buddy the other day,

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Speaker 1: on defensive holding is the most I think one of

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Speaker 1: the craziest things in the NFL rule book. How often

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Speaker 1: do you watch a third and ten in the second

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Speaker 1: half tie game down three up three and a team

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Speaker 1: third and nine and some questionable defensive holding or illegal

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Speaker 1: contact automatic first down. It's fucking bullshit. I would even

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Speaker 1: go a step farther pass interference. We should go college

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Speaker 1: fifteen yard penalty, but that's a different discussion. No problem

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Speaker 1: if it's third and three defensive holding first down, but

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Speaker 1: automatic first down. We have seen so often second in long,

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Speaker 1: third and long. It'd be like third and fifteen and

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Speaker 1: there'd be a defensive holding automatic first down, especially when

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Speaker 1: the quarterback doesn't even throw that guy's way and it

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Speaker 1: doesn't even come close to being completed. So the Detroit Lions,

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Speaker 1: Dan Campbell, Brad Holmes, and the Ford family f one

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Speaker 1: fifty number one selling truck in America. No free ads,

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Speaker 1: but it's truth. They want that gone, they want that changed,

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Speaker 1: and just make it a spot foul. So if it's

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Speaker 1: third and nine and it happens at three yards, okay,

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Speaker 1: it's now third and six, I'm all for it. I

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Speaker 1: am one hundred percent down because the automatic first down

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Speaker 1: on that play has has an outweighed impact on the

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Speaker 1: outcomes of way too many games. This is not college

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Speaker 1: football where half the games during the fall are fifteen

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Speaker 1: to twenty thirty points spreads. That's not the case. All

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Speaker 1: these games are close, or the majority of them are,

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Speaker 1: and so many times coming down the home stretch, and

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Speaker 1: it probably impacts more games earlier in the game two.

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Speaker 1: But it's like a tigh game, six minutes left and

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Speaker 1: it would have been a punt, and then all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden you get a first down. It leads to

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Speaker 1: a field goal, and that's the difference in a game.

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Speaker 1: So props to the Lions on that one. They also,

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Speaker 1: I guess a lot of teams are behind the reseating

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Speaker 1: of the playoff teams. Essentially no longer the first four

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Speaker 1: seeds one through four are the four division winners because

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Speaker 1: we have constantly seen you know, nine ten win teams

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Speaker 1: usually be the fourth, sometimes even the third seed, and

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Speaker 1: yet we've had wildcard teams win twelve, thirteen, fourteen games

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Speaker 1: and have to go on the road in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: So they are discussing making basically the top seven seeds

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs are just buy record. And now if

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Speaker 1: you win the division, you do get a playoff spot,

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Speaker 1: So four of the seven spots are still going to

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Speaker 1: go to the division winner, which I'm all for, but

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Speaker 1: you don't automatically get a home game. Look at the

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Speaker 1: Vikings now, because of the fires, they ended up playing

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Speaker 1: in Arizona, but the Vikings had to go on the road.

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Speaker 1: The Vikings were sixty minutes away from being the number

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Speaker 1: one overall seed. Instead they lose, and all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden they're playing a Monday night game in Glendale, Arizona,

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Speaker 1: which still kind of worked out to be a home

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Speaker 1: game for them because of how many people from the

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Speaker 1: Minnesota general area. You know, I would say live, you

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Speaker 1: know in Arizona, but that's beside the point. They have

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Speaker 1: one of the best home field advantages in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: So I'm totally for this. I know a lot of

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Speaker 1: people have hit me up over the years asking if

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Speaker 1: they should do a team can pick whoever they want

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Speaker 1: to play. I think that's fun to talk about and

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Speaker 1: it's a cool discussion. It will never happen, and all

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Speaker 1: thirty two teams, the good and the bad teams, would

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Speaker 1: not want that, so totally for that. The other thing is,

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Speaker 1: I think the Steelers put through this rule out which

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Speaker 1: I don't hate. Right now, during the tampering period, you are,

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Speaker 1: based on the letter of the law, not allowed to

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Speaker 1: talk to the player. So if I'm the New England

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Speaker 1: Patriots and I want Milton Williams, I can talk to

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Speaker 1: his agent. But if I'm Vrabel or my defensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: I can't get on the horn with Milton. I have

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Speaker 1: to wait till the official start of the league year

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Speaker 1: to talk to him. They want to make the tampering

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Speaker 1: period allow you to talk to a player, so if

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Speaker 1: I'm recruiting Player X as a free agent, I basically

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Speaker 1: can't talk to him where I can avoid that. Remember

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Speaker 1: Saquan said something about how he talked to him last

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Speaker 1: year and then he had to push back and it

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Speaker 1: turns out, you know, it's like I think the fix

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Speaker 1: is pretty simple. You are allowed, you're not allowed to

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Speaker 1: announce anything. But to me, the tampering period should start

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Speaker 1: at the NFL Combine and then the league year. Whenever

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Speaker 1: that tampering period quote unquote starts should be that Monday

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Speaker 1: in the league year, and then for maybe even three days,

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Speaker 1: so it could be a Sunday, you're allowed to negotiate

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Speaker 1: with the player and the agent. Because it is very

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Speaker 1: you have to be extremely naive to think that these

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Speaker 1: discussions aren't happening very very frequently at the combine. So

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Speaker 1: we all know the combine is the unofficial start to

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Speaker 1: legal tampering. Yet you can't start quote unquote legal tampering

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Speaker 1: till like a week later on Monday. It's just it's

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Speaker 1: very disingenuous, and it's just not the way the real

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Speaker 1: world works. So to me, I would mess with the

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Speaker 1: combine and have that as some sort of legal tampering

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Speaker 1: and try to ideally give it a week where you

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Speaker 1: start announcing the deals. But even right now, once the

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Speaker 1: legal tampering period begins, all these deals start breaking. You

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Speaker 1: think we just come to an agree. He meant sixty

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Speaker 1: million dollars Monday at noon. Of course, not We've been

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Speaker 1: talking for a week, so I think there's something to

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Speaker 1: be manipulated with the legal tampering with the discussions and

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Speaker 1: just make it all legal so we don't even have

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Speaker 1: to pretend anymore. But I'm all for the Lions and

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Speaker 1: the defensive holding in illegal contact not resulting in an

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Speaker 1: automatic first down and not against either the reseting just

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Speaker 1: based on records, even though the four division winners get

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Speaker 1: an auto spot. Just flip the hat around in honor

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Speaker 1: of Coward and the backward Hat crew. So let's dive

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Speaker 1: into a little mailbang at John Middlecoff. At John Middlecoff

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Speaker 1: is the Instagram fire into those dms, get your questions

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Speaker 1: answer here on the show just my Instagram. We will

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Speaker 1: start with Alex question for the mailbag. I disagree with

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Speaker 1: my fellow Hawks fans claiming John Schneider is the problem.

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Speaker 1: You know, when you're not like really deep on individual teams,

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Speaker 1: reddits or twitters, you don't even realize these conversations or

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Speaker 1: maybe Facebook communities, Instagram like this is a thing, Like

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Speaker 1: do people think John Schneider isn't one of the best

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Speaker 1: gms in the league because everyone in the NFL believes that.

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Speaker 1: I'm on I don't even know the guy personally. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know people I'm close with in the NFL know him.

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Speaker 1: He's he's really highly thought of. First, he traded Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 1: a move that ended up being a clear win for

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Speaker 1: the franchise. I'd agree there. Then recognize the team was

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Speaker 1: stagnating under Carol, he brought in a new coach, not

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Speaker 1: just any coach, but an innovative mind with a high

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Speaker 1: upside scheme, rather than playing it safe with someone like

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Speaker 1: dan Quinn, though I think dan Quinn's pretty good fellow

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Speaker 1: ball brother. After this past season, it became clear that

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Speaker 1: sticking with Gino would keep us in a solid but

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00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: ultimately limited position, competitive but never true contenders, think the Steelers.

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00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: Instead of settling, Schneider is doubling down his aggressive approach,

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Speaker 1: trading Dino Geno, cutting Locket and likely and obviously moving Metcalf,

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Speaker 1: all while accumulating draft capital in clearing cap space, do

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Speaker 1: you agree that it's better to have a GM willing

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Speaker 1: to take bold steps than running it back with virtually

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Speaker 1: the same thing. Listen, he could easily play it safe,

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Speaker 1: and you know he could have found a way to

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Speaker 1: extend Geno, And he mentioned this for like what forty

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Speaker 1: million a year or something and had Gino for a

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Speaker 1: round for a couple more years, making forty five million,

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Speaker 1: compete to win eight to ten games every single year

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Speaker 1: and not only never get fired. Be thighly thought of,

567
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Speaker 1: what a boring way to live. I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: a guy that is Super Bowl champion, was obviously a

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Speaker 1: play away from winning back to back Super Bowls. Drafted

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame players, made one of the boldest moves

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Speaker 1: ever shorted Russell Wilson's career. A guy that he pounded

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Speaker 1: the table for. Russell Wilson is on the Seattle Seahawks

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Speaker 1: because of John Schneider convincing Pete Carroll to draft him.

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Speaker 1: Never forget. And you know this, When Pete Carroll first

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Speaker 1: met Russell Wilson, he was blown away by how small

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Speaker 1: he was. John had to convince him and he did,

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Speaker 1: and it changed their franchise. And then remember John Schneider

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Speaker 1: tried to trade Russell Wilson to the Cleveland Browns when

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Speaker 1: they drafted Baker Mayfield because he wanted to draft Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: I believe in John Schneider. I think you're very, very

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Speaker 1: lucky to have a measure general manager. He's a stud.

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Speaker 1: He's a stud, longtime Chiefs fan here. I hear a

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Speaker 1: lot of talk on the left tackle position for Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: I like the addition of Jalen Moore. Sure seems like

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Speaker 1: an upgrade at the position on paper. Agreed, he is.

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Speaker 1: My question is this, with the Chiefs bringing Eric Fisher

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Speaker 1: into coach the offensive tackles, do you think it's a

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Speaker 1: big deal, small deal or no deal. I had googled this,

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Speaker 1: I had actually seen this, and I had talked to

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Speaker 1: I actually had a phone call with John Heck, who

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Speaker 1: is Andy Son, who's your O line coach for the

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Speaker 1: last decade plus, and he had he called me to

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Speaker 1: pick my brain on podcasting stuff. He's in kind of

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Speaker 1: the strength and conditioning world. He's going out on his own.

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Speaker 1: Really impressive guy starting right tackle for the for the

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Speaker 1: North Carolina tar Heels forever about you know, twenty twelve

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Speaker 1: to sixteen. Check him out on Instagram. He is fucking shacked.

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Speaker 1: And I had brought this up because I had seen

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Speaker 1: your instagram and he said he had not heard of that.

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Speaker 1: Obviously his dad is the on line coach. And then

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Speaker 1: I googled it and I haven't seen it, so I

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Speaker 1: don't know where you got that from. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: you're wrong, I just I haven't seen that. Listen, it's

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Speaker 1: when you need a tackle and you're in the chief spot.

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Speaker 1: What do you do? Every single year you draft thirty

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Speaker 1: one or thirty two. All the good tackles typically go

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Speaker 1: in the top fifteen picks. Now, you can get lucky

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Speaker 1: with a late pick, but for the most part, the

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Speaker 1: best tackles in the league are pretty high picks. Right.

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Speaker 1: There's occasional Christian Darrisaw with Minnesota think is the second

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Speaker 1: round pick, but Whorf's top fifteen pick, Trent Williams, top

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Speaker 1: five pick, Lane Johnson top five pick. I mean, Jordan

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Speaker 1: Mulatta is an all time outlier. But Giants tackle when healthy.

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Speaker 1: Top pick. Most of these tackles are just gonna get

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Speaker 1: drafted really, really high. So I don't really know what

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Speaker 1: they're supposed to do. And they're never gonna have that

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Speaker 1: much money because of what they paid mahomes in Chris Jones.

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Speaker 1: In fairness, they almost signed Trent Williams a couple of

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Speaker 1: years ago. They went all in, all their chips and

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Speaker 1: the middle of the table, and he just went back

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Speaker 1: to the Niners. Sean McVay hired a game management coordinator

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Speaker 1: last season to help him not use his timeouts in

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Speaker 1: the second half. Why is it so hard for coaches

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Speaker 1: to save their timeouts, take the delay of game and

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Speaker 1: run another play. Teams always end up needing those timeouts.

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Speaker 1: I do. I'm guilty as anyone because clearly what I

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Speaker 1: do for a living is critique situations and games. It

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00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 1: is dramatically easier to be critical sitting on your couch

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Speaker 1: drinking ice cold water and eating some popcorn than it

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Speaker 1: is on the sideline in a game in the second

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Speaker 1: half where you're ramped up. So I agree it is

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Speaker 1: dumb and it happens way too often and offensive coordinators

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Speaker 1: who are head coach. But I just think head coaches

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Speaker 1: do it a lot. Just take the extra penalty. I

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Speaker 1: get if there's like two minutes left to go in

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Speaker 1: the game, but when it happens in the third quarter

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Speaker 1: of a tie game, it is insanity. But I do

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Speaker 1: think it's easier to criticize in our shoes than it

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Speaker 1: would be sitting there on the sideline. I understand how

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Speaker 1: it happens, even if it's the wrong move. McVeigh was

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Speaker 1: really bad at it in years past, I mean really bad,

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Speaker 1: and then he hired Rabel got fired. He hired Vrabel's

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Speaker 1: guy who I didn't see on the internet, but not

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Speaker 1: that I looked that hard. I wonder if that guy

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Speaker 1: went with Rabel back to the Patriots or he's like shit,

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Speaker 1: I kind of like la longtime listener and first time

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Speaker 1: mailback submitter. I'm a Rams fan and in SoCal, I'm

648
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Speaker 1: wondering what the Rams plan is at quarterback once Stafford

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Speaker 1: hangs it up. We've learned that Stafford's approaching his tenure

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Speaker 1: with the Rams on a yearly basis, and he's still

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Speaker 1: playing at a high level. However, he'll probably have two

652
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Speaker 1: years left at most, and the Rams have been too

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Speaker 1: good to be drafting high enough to snag a top

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Speaker 1: level prospect. These answers aren't easy. It's like, what are

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Speaker 1: there now? I think you could pull the trigger this year.

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00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: You gotta like a quarterback to draft him, right, You're

657
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Speaker 1: not just gonna take a guy in the first or

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Speaker 1: second round just to take a quarter But let's say

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Speaker 1: Sean McVay really likes one of these quarterbacks, whether it's

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Speaker 1: Riley Leonard or Will Howard or Jackson Dart or Kyle McCord.

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Speaker 1: I think you could justify taking one of these guys

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Speaker 1: in the first or second round. Now, I don't think

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Speaker 1: they will do that, but if they did that, I

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Speaker 1: would not call them crazy. How much does positional value

665
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: really matter to teams? I see all the time players

666
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Speaker 1: are great in big time college programs, being the best

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00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: player on the field fall down the board due to

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00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 1: their position. Bowers at tight end or Kyle Hamilton at safety.

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Speaker 1: I get the importance of quarterback, edge and left tackle

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Speaker 1: for a team, but it seems like teams will take

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Speaker 1: major risks on those positions over blue chip players. It's

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Speaker 1: because of this I'm better off taking eight. Let's say

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Speaker 1: I'm a pick seven, I'm more likely to take a

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Speaker 1: defensive or offensive lineman than I am a safety, even

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Speaker 1: if I believe that safety might be the best player

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Because if I draft that safety at

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Speaker 1: pick seven, I'm paying him a ton of money. I'm

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Speaker 1: giving him a forty million dollar guaranteed contract. Right and again,

679
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: that number could be off, but you know what I

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Speaker 1: mean where that's not a huge deal, Like safeties don't

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Speaker 1: make that much money, so I'm basically paying him immediately

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Speaker 1: to be a Pro Bowl, all pro level player, and

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Speaker 1: ideally I hope he becomes that, but there's no guarantee

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Speaker 1: yet at at tackle or pass rusher or wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: If I hit on that guy and he's only making

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Speaker 1: six seven million dollars a year and the thirty five

687
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Speaker 1: million dollar contract as a steal right, Like even though

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Speaker 1: I had a draft Jamar Chase whatever fifth or sixth

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Speaker 1: overall or Pinay Sewel, like those two guys, for example,

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Speaker 1: drafted really high in the draft. They become Pro bowlers

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Speaker 1: so quick. They are the equivalent of Brock Purty. They're

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Speaker 1: so cheap, So I think it has something to do

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Speaker 1: with that. Like you draft a tight end four overall,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't make that much less on a guaranteed basis

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Speaker 1: than like George Kittle. So it's like I'm not even

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Speaker 1: getting a deal. I'm paying the guy at premium immediately.

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Speaker 1: Now it's easy to say once he turns out to

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Speaker 1: be Brock Bowers, But like what happens when it's Kyle Pitts.

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Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts, that's fucking highway robbery. He's robbed the Atlanta Falcons.

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Speaker 1: My question, We've seen a play out several times in

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Speaker 1: free agency, Deebo, Green Law, Hufunga. Whoever gets Cup. Can

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Speaker 1: you speak to how potentially impactful it can be bringing

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Speaker 1: winning players into younger locker rooms, even if they are

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Speaker 1: on the back end of their career, Like what Debo

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Speaker 1: and Cup are? These guys know that what it looks like,

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Speaker 1: it's tougher to quantify, and I know production at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day is what matters most, But so

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Speaker 1: much of what helps teams sustain winning is what the culture.

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Speaker 1: That is culture that we always hear about. Would love

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Speaker 1: to hear your thought on this. I think there's a

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Speaker 1: fine balance when you can get an older player, let's

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Speaker 1: use Cup or Debo who still can play. Doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: there is in their peak for him, but it's still

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Speaker 1: a productive player and brings good habits to the locker room.

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Speaker 1: It's you're getting a steal. I do think where you

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Speaker 1: get in weird spots is where their game is diminished

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Speaker 1: and it kind of throws them off and they're not

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Speaker 1: able to lead as much. I do think it is

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Speaker 1: a very very fine line of Like, ultimately Washington, like Deebo,

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Speaker 1: is gonna do everything humanly possible to play well so

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Speaker 1: he can get a new contract. Now, what Deebo brings

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Speaker 1: the table is like he will run over whoever the

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Speaker 1: best player is on the other team to like show

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Speaker 1: toughness and stuff like that is really important. But like

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Speaker 1: what if Debo, as the season goes on, he's not

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Speaker 1: playing well and kind of gets phased out. So like,

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Speaker 1: I think we are assuming your two examples that those

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Speaker 1: guys are still gonna play well, because if they don't,

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Speaker 1: it can get weird because all of a sudden, it's

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Speaker 1: like what if you get benched for like the six

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Speaker 1: round pick who's better than you, and you're also paying

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Speaker 1: that guy a lot of money? Like Cooper Cups making

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Speaker 1: what fifteen million dollars a year, Debo's making seventeen So

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Speaker 1: relative their position, yeah, they're not making as much as

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Speaker 1: they once did or you know, relative to the top guys,

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Speaker 1: but they still make a ship ton relative to your roster.

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Speaker 1: So I think there is risk involved perfect world no

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Speaker 1: matter what they You know, Debo, listen, I'm guilty of

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Speaker 1: this too, battle some weight issues. So you know, I

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Speaker 1: was like, I think there's a fine line. I think

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Speaker 1: if it goes well, it's incredible. I mean, think of

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Speaker 1: think how many big games Deebo's been in, so it's like,

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Speaker 1: but like Terry McLaren, Terry McLaurin doesn't need him for leadership,

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00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: does Luke McCaffrey. So it's I think they need him

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Speaker 1: more for uh, just toughness, just add some toughness to

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Speaker 1: my offense more than quote unquote leadership. Like it's Jayden

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00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: Daniels looking to be led Laramie Tunzel. So I think

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00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: that's great in theory, and I'm not saying it doesn't matter,

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Speaker 1: but I think every situation is a little different. Like

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Speaker 1: if cups missing games, you know, the sixth round wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: who's like the fourth guy on the roster. I mean

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Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, Cooper Cup was sweet like four years ago,

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Speaker 1: it's not now. I think it's also different when it's

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Speaker 1: like an all time legend, you know, like Randy Moss

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Speaker 1: or Ladanian, Tomlinson or I mean Trent was still good,

756
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Speaker 1: but you get Trent, you know, you get some of

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Speaker 1: these players that are like going to the Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 1: you know, like JJ Watt with the Cardinals, and then

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Speaker 1: there's like that next tier, like really good player, but

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Speaker 1: he's still got to play well. So I do think

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Speaker 1: there's a fine, fine line. I think it's easier with

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Speaker 1: like the backup quarterback because like everyone knows his role,

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00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: like Flacco can just help guys out. And I value

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Speaker 1: that stuff. So I'm not trying to like pooh poo it,

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Speaker 1: but I do think that we and I'm guilty of this,

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Speaker 1: who can overvalue that stuff because ultimately the fucking game starts.

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Speaker 1: It's like, can you get open? Can you make a

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Speaker 1: play mail back question? You become GM of the Colts tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: what's your first move? I think we are doing a

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Speaker 1: deep deep dive on every quarterback not named cam Ward,

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Speaker 1: not includes Shador because who know, I mean, what if

772
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Speaker 1: Chador quote unquote drops, But every other quarterback, Ryan Leonard,

773
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Speaker 1: Will Howard, McCord, Jackson, Dart. You just go through the group,

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Speaker 1: all the guys that could get drafted from the second

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Speaker 1: to the sixth round. We are doing a deep deep

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Speaker 1: dive because I am kind of stuck, like Andy richards

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Speaker 1: on my team they just signed, Like I can't rip

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Speaker 1: up that Daniel Jones contract. But none of that faces me.

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Speaker 1: I would think about trading Anthony Richardson. Now I don't

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Speaker 1: know what you can get, Like is it worth trading

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Speaker 1: him for like a fifth round pick, but like, could

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Speaker 1: I trade him to the Giants for their third round pick?

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Speaker 1: Because if they if I could, I would I would

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Speaker 1: think long and hard about it, honestly, And I was

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Speaker 1: pro drafting Anthony Richardson. But I do think we need

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Speaker 1: to acknowledge, like, yeah, it's probably not gonna work. Even

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Speaker 1: if you're an Anthea Richardson guy, I think you would

788
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Speaker 1: have to agree with me if you're gonna bet. If

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Speaker 1: I said right now one thousand dollars, maybe you're rich

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Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars. Are you betting that this guy is

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00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: gonna be on the team in three years? Yes? Or no?

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Speaker 1: Even if you're pro Anthey Richison, you'd have to bet now.

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00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: There's no way you could bet. Yes, Vlad enjoy watching

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Speaker 1: your podcast every morning. Question for the Friday Mailbag, reading

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Speaker 1: this on Thursday or the Thursday mail bank is the

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Speaker 1: American dream dead. I'm twenty seven year old, I'm a

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Speaker 1: nurse working in the Bay Area, and I'm making decent coin.

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Speaker 1: I ask myself every day, how am I ever gonna

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Speaker 1: afford a home and raise a family? Here? You know,

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Speaker 1: the nice house with the white pick offense feels like

801
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Speaker 1: an unattainable dream. Wondering what financial advice you would give

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Speaker 1: to any young person growing up in this economic time period,

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Speaker 1: much love, let me say this, you are in an

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Speaker 1: area and there is a handful of those where if

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Speaker 1: you make decent coin, I have no clue the payscale

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Speaker 1: for nurses. But let me just you're twenty seven. Let

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Speaker 1: me let me just try to guess, and maybe I'm

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Speaker 1: way off. Let's say you're making two hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of money. But the reason I have

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Speaker 1: a good buddy that was just at my wedding, you know,

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Speaker 1: I know him through now Maria. But he's a firefighter

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Speaker 1: in San Francisco. What he makes is dramatically more than

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Speaker 1: he would make if he was a firefighter in Las

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Speaker 1: Vegas or a certain area you know, in Portland, Oregon.

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Speaker 1: But they have to pay you that because one the

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Speaker 1: cost of what it costs to live, and then you

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Speaker 1: get taxed at a rate higher than most of these

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Speaker 1: other places. So there is no way for you to

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Speaker 1: get ahead. So is the American dream dead in San

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Speaker 1: Francisco or Los Angeles? Yes, you got no shot. But

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Speaker 1: I'm a good example. I live there, and I make

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Speaker 1: more money now in twenty twenty five than I did

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. But it was pretty clear that

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Speaker 1: even if what I'm making now like where I would

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Speaker 1: want to live, I wouldn't want to buy one of

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Speaker 1: these ship banger homes for three and a half million

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Speaker 1: dollars one. I just wouldn't do it. I don't. It's

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Speaker 1: like I had no chance. But that's the place i'd

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Speaker 1: want to live, and that was the going rate. So

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Speaker 1: I moved. I crossed an imaginary line. Now in my situation,

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Speaker 1: unlike yours, my pay scale, whether you know, it just

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Speaker 1: depended on how well the podcast was going. I was

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Speaker 1: gonna make what I was gonna make whether I lived

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Speaker 1: in Alaska, whether I lived in San Francisco, or whether

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Speaker 1: I lived in uh, New Mexico. It didn't matter for you.

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Speaker 1: It pays based on areas, right. I'm sure you make

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Speaker 1: more in Manhattan or San Francisco than you would in Idaho.

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Speaker 1: But me crossing an imaginary line to come to Scottsdale,

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Speaker 1: which is a very expensive place now it's gone up dramatically,

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Speaker 1: has made me, I would guess, thirty to forty percent

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Speaker 1: richer or worth more. Over the course of a couple

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00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 1: of years, because it's not even just what you save

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00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,439
Speaker 1: in taxes, the ability to purchase a home and put

844
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Speaker 1: money into it, and the ability to what you save

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Speaker 1: and can invest you the American dream. In San Francisco,

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Speaker 1: doing what you're doing one percent, you've got no shot

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Speaker 1: unless there is an absolute crash in the Bay Area,

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Speaker 1: which probably doubtful at least in the foreseeable future. But

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Speaker 1: that is not true in other areas, like the reason,

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Speaker 1: places like Arizona and Vegas have benefited a lot from

851
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: people in your situation struggling and leaving, and I fall

852
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: under that category. Now, I didn't leave because I was

853
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: just just for financial reasons. Those that played apart and

854
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: I was just so fucking I was like, I can

855
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: never wear a mask again, and they wouldn't let me

856
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: take my masks off there. And you come to Arizona,

857
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: it's like, you can't fucking see a mask if you

858
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: had binoculars that went, you know, a thousand miles. It's like,

859
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: and this is I'm talking twenty twenty, like we're all

860
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: breathing this at what's going on? So I left for

861
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 1: a lot of different variables, but financially, the benefits are.

862
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: And I tell people this all the time because a

863
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: lot of people talk like this. Most of my friends

864
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: or are large percentage of people in my life still

865
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: live in California. A lot of them do well, and

866
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: they bitch and moan all the time about taxes, the prices,

867
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 1: and you can and I did the same thing. Until

868
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: you see it when you deal with your tax guy.

869
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: It's it's impossible to truly understand. So, like I said,

870
00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: I understand working at like the male clinic hereby doesn't

871
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: pay whatever you might make at Stanford Hospital or San

872
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: Francisco Hospital, wherever you're working. But if the number is

873
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: within reason, I would leave because the American dream is

874
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: fucking raging here. It's strong and it's not. It hasn't

875
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: been there for a while, just because the cost of

876
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: everything is so out of whack. So I'm not saying

877
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 1: come here. I'm just saying, you have options, you know I.

878
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: If you do have options, were would be due leave

879
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:33,919
Speaker 1: and go somewhere else. Am I the only Niner fan

880
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: who likes the organization what the organization is doing a

881
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: lot of fans in talking heads are sitting around wondering

882
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: what San Francisco is doing letting all these guys walk,

883
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: and I really like it. Yes, losing green Laws sucks,

884
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 1: but this availability does not merit the amount of money

885
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: he's making in San Francisco's finally an angel setup, saying

886
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: with Hufunga, they've all been preparing for the last year's

887
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: draft with Poonie, Mustafa, Rinardo Green Pierce all puts a

888
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: lot of pressure on this. But with double digits selections,

889
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: do you think San Francisco still has a little legitimate

890
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: chance to be a threat in the NFC this year

891
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: in the next Yeah. I think I mentioned this to

892
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: Colin every move the Niners made beside Floyd, Like, I

893
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: don't agree with Floyd, but green Law, Like, yeah, paying

894
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,919
Speaker 1: a guy forty five million dollars whose leg I don't

895
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: know come back off an achilles, his hamstring, who fung

896
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: has like four different injuries. And I love those two guys,

897
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: Love those two guys, but like I get out resigning him.

898
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: Give Aaron Banks had eighty eight million dollars. Packers are

899
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: well run an organization that was pretty nuts. The Niners

900
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: tender Jordan Mason at like four and a half five

901
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: million dollars. They were never gonna pay Jordan Mason that

902
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 1: I get trading him. I think it's a good trade

903
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,439
Speaker 1: for Minnesota. Totally get it us check end up coming

904
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: back the letter, Floyd thinks nuts. He plays every single game.

905
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: He's a high level dude, and he's fucking just solid

906
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: player and he's making seven million dollars. I'm sorry, I

907
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: just I adamantly disagree with that one. But all the

908
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: other yeah, he's just like and listen, love debo what

909
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: he did back in the day, but he just was

910
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 1: pretty bad last year. I've seen most of the prominent

911
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 1: Drafters like DJ Kuiper and McShay mock Genty to the Raiders.

912
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: Can the Raiders are really afford to take him over

913
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: Mason Graham Men, I don't know how to say. The

914
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: Missouri offensive tackles question seems like more of a luxury.

915
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: The Raiders cannot take Ashton Genty. I would be stunned,

916
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: I mean floored if John Spytek, who played at Michigan

917
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 1: and is like pretty big guy, would take a five

918
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: eight running back. And it feels like I'm hating on

919
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: Ashton Genty. I love Ashton Genty. You could not watched

920
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: watch Ashton Genty play last year, and I think he's

921
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: one of the best players in college football, but he

922
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 1: played at a smaller school and he's five foot eight.

923
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: Put yourself in a position of being a GM in

924
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: the top ten and your team like the Raiders, where

925
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: you could use offensive line, defensive line, just impact players,

926
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: hell a wide receiver. You could not take a five

927
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: eight running back when there are ten other guys who

928
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: can be starters in the NFL at running back. Take

929
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: a running back in the second or third round. I

930
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: think taking Ashon Genty in the top ten would be

931
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:32,479
Speaker 1: pretty nuts. If you're a general manager. Here's my question,

932
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 1: how do other teams success affect other teams team building?

933
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: For example, the Eagles D line is stacked. Will people

934
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: try to copy or combat it? Do they draft a

935
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: stud defensive lineman in the draft or take a stud

936
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 1: offensive lineman to combat it. It's a copycat league, so

937
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: I assume there will be an emphasis on defensive line,

938
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: at least in the NFC. Hypothetically speaking, if the Bengals

939
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: make it the Super Bowl, will other teams put an

940
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: emphasis on paying wide receivers. Also, I'm tired of the

941
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: Packers being the youngest team in the league. It's more

942
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: of an excuse then an accomplishment. If we entered the

943
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: season as the youngest team in the league for the

944
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 1: third straight season, I'm gonna fucking lose it. I added

945
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: the F word there. I think naturally, you always try

946
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: to gravitate toward what is working, But like, is what

947
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: the Eagles did really that revolutionary? I think how he'd

948
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: be the first tell you, like, yeah, we invest in

949
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: offensive and defensive linemen, so should you. It's like, you know,

950
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 1: we took Jalen Carter at nine overall. It's like, that's

951
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 1: pretty nuts. He should have gone one. Now, obviously there

952
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: were character stuff, but like, yeah, we invest in guards

953
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: and tackles and pass rushers. I don't think, to me

954
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 1: if there was some scheme like running quarterbacks when that

955
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: kind of went in vogue. I think what the Eagles

956
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 1: did is pretty self explanatory. Yet the person just asked

957
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: the question, like, well, the Raiders take gent at six.

958
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 1: I mean, Howie, who's paid Saquon Barkley a lot of

959
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: money and just said that Saquon had one of the

960
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: best seasons in the history of the league. Would jump

961
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: off the Walt Whitman before he took ashing Gent at

962
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: six overall. He loves Sakuon Barkley. He would not take

963
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: Saguon Barkley. It's six overall, it's bad business. So like

964
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 1: taking good linemen is just that's how you win in football.

965
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: Like I don't think it's I think sometimes you copycat

966
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: with schemes like RPOs or even the tush push or

967
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: certain blitzes. But like the same type teams win all

968
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: the time. The reason like the Ravens are good for

969
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: twenty five years. They're usually pretty good at the line

970
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: of scrimmage and good on defense. It's like not obviously

971
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: Lamar has changed their offensive dynamics, but like when you

972
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: close your eyes, you think the Baltimore Ravens, what do

973
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: you think, defense, line of scrimmage, offensive, defensive line? Pittsburgh,

974
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: why do they never lose? They're always good on defense

975
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: and for a while, like sometimes they have great offenses. Obviously,

976
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: if you have a Josh Allen or Mahomes, it can

977
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: it can separate you. But like you've got to be

978
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: good on defense. Uh, but I hear it. Yeah, I

979
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: don't think there are like dynamic ways to look at this,

980
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: right because you're you give the example of the Bengals.

981
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: It's like well, yeah, if you got you could justify

982
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: it if you have Jamar Chason T Higgins who has that, Like,

983
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: I don't even think the Vikings would be nuts. And

984
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: like a year, it's like you ever gonna trade Jordan

985
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: Addison trade them for a first round pick. Not saying

986
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 1: they would do that, but it's like, and we're gonna

987
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: invest in a right tackle. Thinking about getting engaged this year,

988
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: did you take your wife ring shopping before or did

989
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: you go or how did you go about it? I

990
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: know her friends had pictures of what she would like

991
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: the ring, but she wants to get one with me

992
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 1: just curious. It's a good question. I would not have

993
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,879
Speaker 1: own this until I did it. Now, you know, you

994
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: talk about privilege. I got the great privilege and was

995
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: very very lucky that her grandma had given her a

996
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: ring which had the diamond. Now she didn't she wasn't

997
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: going to use the ring, but we used the diamond,

998
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 1: which is you know, let's just say you buy a

999
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: twenty thousand dollars ring that the diamonds ninety percent of

1000
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: the cost. So it was a game changer for me.

1001
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: So we shopped together. She picked out the band and

1002
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: then they used the diamond. Now I'm forty years old,

1003
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 1: you know if you're younger. Uh, there's I don't know,

1004
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: levels of secrecy of how to do it. It would it

1005
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: would have been impossible. I could I could never have

1006
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: done it without even if I had to buy the diamond,

1007
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even know where to start. And I think

1008
00:56:54,680 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 1: most people listening would probably agree that it's she knew

1009
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: she was getting engaged. I would guess a large percentage

1010
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 1: of girls know they're gonna get engaged. When he asked

1011
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 1: the question, and I think one thing I asked, I

1012
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: think her name was dj Or, the girl that helped

1013
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: us at the store. I said, what percentage of people

1014
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: come in together? She said the majority? And a lot

1015
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: of times you go in with her, she gives you

1016
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: some options and then you go back on your own

1017
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: and actually make the purchase. But it is not abnormal

1018
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: to go together because you don't want to hand or

1019
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: something that she's gonna hate, especially if you've got to

1020
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: spend five, ten, twenty, whatever, one thousand dollars. It's not

1021
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: an inexpensive purchase. Are the Bengals actually doomed? Everyone thought

1022
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: they were gonna get weren't gonna get them done. Now

1023
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: they're stupid for paying two top wide receivers. The defense

1024
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: was already asked, is it crazy to think that they

1025
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: could improve the defense and pay the offense. It's gonna

1026
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: be a fascinating experiment because the reason they went nine

1027
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: to eight was not the passing game. Like the passing

1028
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: game thrived. So it's not like they didn't change anything.

1029
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: They just added more money to what they were invested.

1030
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 1: I mean, they were gonna pay Chase, but like to

1031
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: go all in on Higgins. Literally nothing changes sometimes when

1032
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: you pay a bunch of guys. You know, if I

1033
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 1: just tell you a team announces two huge contracts, it's like,

1034
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: ideally you get some an addition, right. So I don't know, man,

1035
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: I can't. It's hard for me to hate on them

1036
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: doing it because it made the quarterback happy. But I

1037
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: think we all have to agree it's it's a problem

1038
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: when their defense was their biggest question mark. Do you

1039
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: think the adding a minor league minor league in the

1040
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: NFL to help develop players and have like a plug

1041
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:09,439
Speaker 1: and play with increase in injuries to the teams. I've

1042
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: said this forever. Why would they do that? They have

1043
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: college football, the NFL owners are not going to pay

1044
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: for that. In part of minor league baseball, it's like

1045
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:23,479
Speaker 1: owned by the big league teams, and football is very

1046
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: just labor intensive, so you have way more injuries. You

1047
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: got to pay coaching staffs. You would have to cheat

1048
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: the coaching staff to teach what you're doing if it

1049
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: was a minor league team, you know, unlike minor league

1050
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: baseball or basketball, Like I can just play fifty games

1051
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: and more than likely not gonna have major injuries. Like

1052
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: in football, what if your six round picks down there

1053
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 1: developing and all of a sudden someone takes out his leg.

1054
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 1: So I think it's a lot more a lot more

1055
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 1: variables than the other sports that have minor league you know,

1056
00:59:56,280 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: feeder systems. What is your prediction on the Colts this year?

1057
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: And do you think Anthony Richardson will improve? Seems like

1058
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: Ballard and even Stiking maybe on the jobs might be

1059
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: on the line. I'm back and forth on Daniel Jones.

1060
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 1: I think they're I think they're in major trouble. I mean,

1061
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 1: the one thing that they benefit from is the division,

1062
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 1: which the Titans are gonna have a rookie quarterback. The

1063
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: Texans to have a lot of question marks with the

1064
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: offensive line, and I was the Titans, the Texans on

1065
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: the Jags. I mean, who fuck knows, but I don't know. Man.

1066
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: That's it couldn't have gone much weirder through two years.

1067
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: I think we just have to acknowledge it's a bizarre situation,

1068
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: kind of has some like Trey lancey vibes. Different. Trey

1069
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: Lance never tapped out of a game, but it was

1070
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: clear going into year three it's like, I don't know

1071
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 1: if this is gonna work. That's what I feel like.

1072
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 1: This is now. Richardson has way more talent than Trey Lance.

1073
01:00:58,160 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: Like if you told me you could have Trey Lance

1074
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: or Anthony Richson going into year three, it's not even

1075
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: I'm not comparing the two players, but the situations some

1076
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 1: similar vibes. And obviously the Niners got lucky. Purty bailed

1077
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 1: them out. I doubt Daniel Jones can do that. Okay,

1078
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: last question, diehard Birds fan props to Brianon Graham, who

1079
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 1: just retired. I've been hearing nationally and locally how Howie's

1080
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 1: recent draft should be attributed to his decision to draft

1081
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: players from big time programs the Georgia Boys, but no

1082
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: one seems to mention picking Quinyon Mitchell from Toledo as

1083
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 1: a former scout. Did you have confidence in that pick

1084
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: when it was made? Did others around the league have

1085
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 1: any clue he could step in and be a lockdown

1086
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: corner in his rookie season even though he came from

1087
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 1: a weaker college program. Here's the difference, and I would

1088
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 1: put gent in this too. Is a guy now coming

1089
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 1: from Boise State, Toledo or whatever it was, like, did

1090
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 1: he just come out of nowhere? Mitchell liked Genty turned

1091
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 1: down a lot of money to stay at their program.

1092
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 1: Mitchell easily could have gone to Bama, Georgia, Ohio State, Michigan,

1093
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,919
Speaker 1: he could have gone Texas, all these places he chose

1094
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 1: to stay Ashton Genty turned down seven figures I think

1095
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 1: probably from like Texas and Ohio State. Now, who knows, Like,

1096
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: would he still be viewed as the prospect if he

1097
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 1: was there, If you're gonna draft him high? You hope so,

1098
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: But that makes you feel good. It's like the reason

1099
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: these guys who had the opportunity to leave, It's like

1100
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: they passed on money because they liked playing with their boys.

1101
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: So he was I mean, this dude would have been

1102
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: an immediate starter at Texas, Bama, Georgia. So that's you know,

1103
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: before when that wasn't even an option, you could play

1104
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: that hypothetical. But it was like how he can call

1105
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 1: Steve Sarkisian or Kirby Smart and they'd be like, yeah,

1106
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 1: we were begging him to come here. We told him

1107
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 1: we'd give him a million dollar or seven hundred grand

1108
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:01,439
Speaker 1: or whatever, and he denied us. That makes you feel

1109
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 1: a lot better. So he was pretty highly thought of.

1110
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: I was texting with a buddy on their staff who's

1111
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: just like he is. He is way better than you

1112
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: realize he's I mean, he's got a chance to be

1113
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 1: I mean the best corner in the NFL or one

1114
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 1: of them, you know, like within a couple of years,

1115
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 1: the way we talk about the way Stingley played and

1116
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: certain you know Saus the first couple of years, like

1117
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: that's how good this guy is. And before when you

1118
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 1: take smaller school guys, you are making an educated guess,

1119
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 1: and you still were because of his level of competition.

1120
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:38,919
Speaker 1: But I do think you have to factor in how

1121
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 1: everyone wanted him, and the same thing for genty because

1122
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 1: usually those guys now leaf and you don't even have

1123
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 1: to guess. You're like, well, you know, think of the

1124
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 1: different world we live in. If genty is just the

1125
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 1: starting running back at Ole Miss or Texas or Texas

1126
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 1: and m you know, or Florida or Georgia or one

1127
01:03:57,640 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: of these schools, it just it would be a lot different.

1128
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 1: And let's face it, he would his stats would not

1129
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 1: look like they look and that's not I mean, it

1130
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 1: would still be probably awesome, but it can change you

1131
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 1: and it can help you. Maybe if he did have

1132
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: the same stats and he had done it at Texas,

1133
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: maybe he goes like top five. I do think it's difficult,

1134
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 1: and you have to factor this in. You know, I

1135
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 1: was gonna look up Quinon Mitchell. Quinnon Mitchell's measurables. So

1136
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 1: he goes to the combine. He's six feet tall, he

1137
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 1: runs a four three forty, and he vertical jumps thirty

1138
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 1: eight inches. So it's like every team in the country

1139
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 1: wanted him to transfer. He told him to No, this

1140
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 1: isn't like some little overachiever. This is a blue chip

1141
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 1: body type, six feet one hundred ninety five two hundred pounds,

1142
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 1: can fly explosive, like checks every box. If you told

1143
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 1: me Ashton gent was five eleven. I would say, yeah,

1144
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 1: drafts from in the top ten like Bijon and McCaffrey

1145
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 1: and some of those guys, but it's five to eight.

1146
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 1: Just like if Quinnon Mitchell had done the same thing.

1147
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 1: Instead of being six feet he's five to nine, he

1148
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't have gotten the first round. Like. It does impact you.

1149
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean he couldn't have been a great player

1150
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:20,439
Speaker 1: five foot nine, but it does. So yeah, i'd say,

1151
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 1: how he's gotta feel pretty good about that draft pick.

1152
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 1: The volume