WEBVTT - Short Stuff: Emperor Norton

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, and welcome to short stuff. I'm josh and

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<v Speaker 1>there's Chuck and there's Jerry, and this is short stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go all right. Emperor Joshua Norton the uh maybe first,

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<v Speaker 1>but at least one of the early great eccentrics of

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco, California. Yeah, it's possible he was one of

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<v Speaker 1>It's possible he was the first, but it's actually kind

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<v Speaker 1>of unlikely if you think about it. Yeah, but it

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<v Speaker 1>is so funny to think about the fact that this

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<v Speaker 1>was in the eighteen fifties and and beyond, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco was still San Francisco. Yeah. I'd heard of

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<v Speaker 1>this guy. I didn't know much about him as his

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<v Speaker 1>news and eccentric, beloved San Franciscan. But when you dig

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<v Speaker 1>into this guy, it just gets better and better. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty great. So he was. He was, Like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>his name was Joshua Norton. He was born in England.

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<v Speaker 1>Um and his parents traveled to South Africa to settle

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<v Speaker 1>there in eighteen twenty. Is part of a settlement scheme. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And by settle I mean show up in interlocal colonized Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you go, um, and they I guess I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't understand why they left or he left, but at

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<v Speaker 1>some point he made his way to San Francisco. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe for the gold brush. So I guess he

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<v Speaker 1>probably left himself and he made um. He made himself

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<v Speaker 1>pretty wealthy man, pretty quick by eighteen fifty two, within

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<v Speaker 1>just three years UM of arriving, he was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the wealthy, reputable citizens of San Francisco. Yeah, the end

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<v Speaker 1>of story. Yeah, he he was in real estate early on. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But in late December or I guess just late eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifty two, there was a famine in China and they

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<v Speaker 1>placed a ban on rice exports to other countries. Pretty sensible. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so there was a shortage of rice as a result

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<v Speaker 1>in the US and in San Francisco, where they love

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<v Speaker 1>their rice. It is the San Francisco treat and always

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<v Speaker 1>has been. Right, they do a little something special to it,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, it's basically rice. So Norton heard that there

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<v Speaker 1>was a ship coming to California from Peru that had

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<v Speaker 1>like two hundred thousand pounds of rice. He saw a business,

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<v Speaker 1>uh investment opportunity and said, all right, I'm gonna buy

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<v Speaker 1>all this rice. I'm gonna corner the rice market and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to get even richer, which he did. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>He bought this entire shipment. However, a bunch of more

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<v Speaker 1>ships came from Peru in order. Yeah, he didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>about those coming, No, and they had a bunch of rice,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the prices went back to normal and he

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<v Speaker 1>was just stuck with a bunch of rice. And eventually, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and pretty short order, I think um had to file

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<v Speaker 1>for bankruptcy. Yeah, so he went from super wealthy San

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<v Speaker 1>Franciscan to bankrupt San Franciscan from one bad business decision,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why you don't want to put all your

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<v Speaker 1>eggs in one basket, right, that's right, or all of

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<v Speaker 1>your rice on one ship from Peru. So he uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he kind of dropped out of of San Francisco society.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody lost track of him, and after a year or

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<v Speaker 1>two he re emerged. And when he re emerged, he

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<v Speaker 1>was a little different, a little off compared to how

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<v Speaker 1>he had been before. Uh. And one of the first

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<v Speaker 1>things he did was distribute letters to the newspapers around

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco declaring himself Emperor Norton, the first of the

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<v Speaker 1>United States. And the story would kind of end there.

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<v Speaker 1>It would have just been a crackpot who distributed leaflets

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<v Speaker 1>and no one would know about it because it would

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<v Speaker 1>have been totally lost to history if one of those

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco papers, the Bulletin, hadn't taken him up on this, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this offer and printed his letter, his his proclamation, and

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<v Speaker 1>it kicked off a tradition around San Francisco of basically

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<v Speaker 1>not just um printing Emperor Norton's proclamations, but also just

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<v Speaker 1>reporting on him and his doings and what he was

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<v Speaker 1>up to at any given time. It was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>it became a San Francisco media tradition. Yeah, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it was just something about San Francisco even

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<v Speaker 1>back then, where the residents roundly were I guess probably

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<v Speaker 1>kind of entertained by the guy uh and accepted him

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<v Speaker 1>and revered him and embraced him as one of their

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<v Speaker 1>kind of wacky locals exactly, maybe the wackiest local of

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<v Speaker 1>all back then. Probably. So he would go around town

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<v Speaker 1>and he wore a military uniform, and the even the

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<v Speaker 1>I love this, even the army officers at the base

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<v Speaker 1>at the presidio there gave him some like epaulets and

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<v Speaker 1>things like that to put on his uniform. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty awesome. He wore a hat with the peacock

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<v Speaker 1>feather and he had a couple of dogs named Bummer

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<v Speaker 1>and Lazarus. That would you know, I mean, he sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like this could be San Francisco two thousand nineteen as well. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>sure that Bummer and Lazarus thing, though that is contested.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a plaque in San Francisco by the what's

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<v Speaker 1>the pyramid building trans America trans America. Um that there's

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<v Speaker 1>a plaque they're commemorating Bummer and Lazarus, and it specifically

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<v Speaker 1>says they were not Norton's dogs. Um, they were their

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<v Speaker 1>own sometimes possibly, but they were definitely their own equal

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<v Speaker 1>celebrities to Emperor Norton. They were their own crew. Um

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<v Speaker 1>that may or may not have overlapped with Emperor Norton,

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<v Speaker 1>but they deserve their own short stuff too. Actually, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious about the name Bummer from back then. What

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<v Speaker 1>that must have meant, I don't know. I don't know either.

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<v Speaker 1>But the newspapers would also report on what they did too,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there was at least apparently I've read an Atlas Obscure,

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<v Speaker 1>there was at least one article that wrote on how

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<v Speaker 1>they had stolen a bone from another dog. Like that's

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<v Speaker 1>what you could pick up the San Francisco papers and

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<v Speaker 1>read about. But it was it was part of Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was part of the city's pride and like every

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<v Speaker 1>every aspect of it, you know. All right, well, let's

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<v Speaker 1>take a short break and we're gonna come back and

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<v Speaker 1>talk about some of his acclamations and uh and how

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<v Speaker 1>he went about town right after this. Alrighty, so, uh

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<v Speaker 1>Emperor Norton. And by the way, in nineteen I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>in eighteen sixty one he added the title Protector of

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<v Speaker 1>Mexico to his name after the French invaded Mexico. So

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<v Speaker 1>did you know the French invaded Mexico? Mm hmmm, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I did not. I don't think I did.

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<v Speaker 1>But it didn't. I mean, I don't know. There was

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<v Speaker 1>so much invading going on back then. Nothing surprises me anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Just two weeks ago it was the Dutch. Yeah, exactly. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's hanging around Sam fram Cisco, he's got his outfit.

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<v Speaker 1>He's Over the course of his reign, I guess you

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<v Speaker 1>could say he had some wacky declarations and some that

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<v Speaker 1>ended up kind of making sense. Um. He abolished Congress

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<v Speaker 1>or called for the abolishing of Congress. He dissolved the

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<v Speaker 1>United States of America as a whole, which makes it

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<v Speaker 1>tricky to be the emperor of the United States. And

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't quite see how he how he rectified those

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<v Speaker 1>two I don't think he did. Um. He dissolves and

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<v Speaker 1>abolished the two political parties. Pretty sensible. But then one

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<v Speaker 1>thing he did was kind of interesting. He ordered a survey.

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<v Speaker 1>He was he was committed to finding a way to

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<v Speaker 1>connect Oakland and San Francisco, whether by bridge or by tunnel,

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<v Speaker 1>and he ordered a survey even in eighteen seventy two

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<v Speaker 1>to try and figure this out, which ended up being

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<v Speaker 1>pretty relevant later on. Yeah. He uh, he said, there's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a great basketball team one day over

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<v Speaker 1>in Oakland, and San Francisco needs to have a way

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<v Speaker 1>to lay claim on that team. Oh, that's true. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>He he also ordered a suspension bridge be built from

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<v Speaker 1>Oakland to Goat Island to San Francisco too, So he

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<v Speaker 1>was very interested in connecting Oakland to San Francisco. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is kind of it was part of like

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of civic um attention I guess that he

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<v Speaker 1>paid to the city. He was known for inspecting sidewalks

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<v Speaker 1>and streets and making sure they were in proper repair. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and the city loved this guy. He actually once proclaimed

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<v Speaker 1>that if you called San Francisco Frisco, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>high misdemeanor and you can be fine twenty five bucks,

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<v Speaker 1>which these days is more than five dollars. So he

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<v Speaker 1>really meant it, right. Yeah. I love that that was

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<v Speaker 1>even for boating back then, because it's it's long been

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<v Speaker 1>known that you don't say Frisco. Yeah, this might be

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<v Speaker 1>the origin of it. Actually, it's pretty cool. Um And

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<v Speaker 1>and like I said, the city really did love him.

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<v Speaker 1>They they he ate for free at all of the

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<v Speaker 1>city's best restaurants. Um. If there is an opening of

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<v Speaker 1>a show, Uh, they would save a seat for him. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>the city just loved him so much so that he

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<v Speaker 1>was once committed by a police officer and the city

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<v Speaker 1>just had this huge outcry against it. Yeah. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>well they got out because you know, like the police chief.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it was like you can't look up Emperor Norton, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think my favorite part of the whole thing though,

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<v Speaker 1>is he issued his own currency and it was accepted. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that great, It's amazing. Man. I want to be this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>But what's neat Well, there's just a couple of steps.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to take their chuck and need together to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. I need to get some flets and pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much make some money. Um, you're already beloved, so check

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<v Speaker 1>check one. All right. Um. So this guy, Emperor Norton,

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<v Speaker 1>is um hanging around San Francisco. He's he's loved, he

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<v Speaker 1>is issuing his own currency. He eats at all of

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<v Speaker 1>the city's best restaurants. One of the things that stuck

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<v Speaker 1>struck me about this guy is he does that seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to have taken advantage of it because when he died,

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<v Speaker 1>except for eating for free and issuing his own money, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying he wasn't like, oh, you guys are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take this money. Let's see what all what all I

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<v Speaker 1>can do with this? You know what I mean? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>he just seems to have kind of done enough to

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<v Speaker 1>to live comfortably and gotten by um. But like when

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<v Speaker 1>they when he died, he dropped dead at the corner

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<v Speaker 1>of California and what is now Grant Avenue, which was

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<v Speaker 1>between knob Hill and the Financial District. At age sixty one,

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<v Speaker 1>just dropped that on the street. And um, when they

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<v Speaker 1>went to go search his room at the boarding house,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he had some a collection of walking sticks

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<v Speaker 1>and canes they would carry around with them, some hats,

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<v Speaker 1>and like a two dollar and fifty cent gold piece. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so he he didn't he wasn't a hog. It sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like he he was very much committed to looking over

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco and making sure it was in good shape. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they ended up taking care of him, uh postmortem

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<v Speaker 1>even Um, originally he was going to be buried in

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<v Speaker 1>a pauper's grave. And the Pacific Club, which was a

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<v Speaker 1>businessman's association back then, they may still be around for

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<v Speaker 1>all I now, Uh, maybe they're part of the problem

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<v Speaker 1>in San Francisco. Maybe they said, you know what, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna he should be buried in a rosewood casket and

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have a great funeral procession. And in eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty January tenth, thirty thousand of two hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand residents attended this funeral procession. Yeah, that's amazing. Even

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<v Speaker 1>more attended his exhamation because he was buried at the

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<v Speaker 1>Masonic Cemetery and they moved the Masonic cemetery, probably to

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<v Speaker 1>make way for like Uber's offices or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And um, everybody was moved to Colem, California. Well, Colma, California.

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<v Speaker 1>They had a new they had a reburial and something

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<v Speaker 1>like I think sixty thousand people showed up for that one. Amazing, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they flew the flag that half mass. This is

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<v Speaker 1>fifty years after this guy has died, and he he

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<v Speaker 1>was still that revered and still is today by by

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<v Speaker 1>some people in San Francisco of course. Uh yeah, San

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<v Speaker 1>Francisco loves to embrace their their local eccentrics. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>So he uh, like we said, they they have built

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<v Speaker 1>the Bay Bridge now, uh there is a tunnel with

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<v Speaker 1>the public transportation. So that those two things came true

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<v Speaker 1>that he was looking into. And then since then he's

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<v Speaker 1>been immortalized in a lot of literature and plays over

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<v Speaker 1>the years, including Mark Twain even who lived in San

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<v Speaker 1>Francisco at the time. He was clearly smitten with the

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<v Speaker 1>guy as well. Yeah. He he shows up as the

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<v Speaker 1>king in Huckleberry Finn. I think that characters named after him.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no less than three operas and a musical written

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<v Speaker 1>about him. He's He's beloved. Also, there's a episode of Bonanza.

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<v Speaker 1>This this is the weird Cherry on Top. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it basically tells the story of the time he was

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<v Speaker 1>comitted um and released and he liked. The character's name

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<v Speaker 1>is Emperor Norton. It just it just so happens that

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<v Speaker 1>they coincided, you know, the Bonanza timeline and Emperor Norton's

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<v Speaker 1>real lifetimeline coincide in this this episode of Bonanza, which

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<v Speaker 1>I have to see. It's called um well, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what it's called. Well, I know that I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>see it too. I do know that Mark Twain was

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, even not the real Mark Twain. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>it was probably he broke I guess. I hope. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's nobody who could do a Mark Twain like him

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<v Speaker 1>or Val Kilmer. There's nobody who can do a Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Twain like Howhold. I got nothing against well that's not true.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that old grudge that time he shoved you

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<v Speaker 1>into the street. Ye shouldn't have done that. Bal I

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<v Speaker 1>got nothing else, nothing else over here. I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed this episode of short Stuff, short stuff, away stuff.

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