1 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: What up, people, get your boy John Middlecoff, what's going on? 2 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: Back at it? Another week? Uh? That that that little 3 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: buffer week we have also known as Pro Bowl week 4 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: between the Super Bowl UM also known Senior Bowl to uh, 5 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: to the scouting community, uh, and to the Raiders and 6 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: the Niners who are coaching that game. And and we'll 7 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: get into that game a little later. The Chiefs, I 8 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: think just actually right as I'm recording this, officially hired 9 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: Steve Spagnola as the defensive coordinator. There was an interesting 10 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: story that did I have some thoughts on how the 11 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: football guys in the league, you know, meaning the scouting community, 12 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: like the football guy scouts are just displeased with the analytics, 13 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: uh and those kind of the new age personnel people 14 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: in the NFL. You know. I've had some varience on that. 15 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: We're working in Philadelphia, and I definitely have some thoughts. 16 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: Derek Carr arguing back and forth with Stephen A. Smith 17 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: A couple of nuggets there. But but but I gotta start 18 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: with one thing, and I've said this before on this podcast, 19 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: and I think we all learned differently, uh, No, different 20 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,199 Speaker 1: than you know in school football is the same way 21 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: some people learn in a meeting room. Some people learn 22 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,279 Speaker 1: on the field. Some people can study, you know, through 23 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, power points in classrooms. Other people need 24 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: to you know, actually do out their homework. I don't know. 25 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: Everyone just learns differently. I don't learn very well. I'm 26 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: just not that smart of a human. Somehow I had 27 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 1: got a couple of degrees, but probably more luck than 28 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: it was natural ability. But I went to school with 29 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: cal Poly. And it's uh for the football fans, Ramsey's 30 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: bardon drafted once upon a time, third round, Chris go 31 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: Kong third rounder. We're not, no, I'm not a football factory. 32 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: One double a blue collar program. You know, about thirty 33 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: people ago there. It's a state school in California. It's 34 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: basically smack dab in the middle along the coastline between 35 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,839 Speaker 1: the Bay Area in Los Angeles, and for the most part, 36 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: people that went to the school were split. A lot 37 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: of Southern California people, a lot of Northern California people. 38 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: But the motto of the school, which just kind of 39 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: fit me perfectly, was learned by doing. And it's kind 40 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: of a motto. I mean it's cheesy or whatever, but 41 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: it really kind of works for me. The more I 42 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: do something, the better I get out of it. And 43 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: I do think that it works for most people. You 44 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: learn by doing something. You don't learn through someone telling 45 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: you you have to actually do it. Like the more 46 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: I've done this podcast, the more ability I have to 47 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: just be more efficient doing it. Know what you guys want, 48 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: just make it sound better, whatever, picked the right topics. 49 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: But I also was more equipped to do that because 50 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: I had worked in radio for a while. If I 51 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: had never worked in radio and just attempted to do 52 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: this right out of the NFL, I probably would not 53 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 1: be very good. And I'm not saying I'm great now, 54 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: but I got pretty good idea what I'm doing and 55 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: what I'm not doing well. I've learned that through doing it. 56 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: And I think when you look at the super Bowl, 57 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: you know you have one team that, let's call it 58 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: what it is, treat the super Bowl like you and 59 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: I do dinner. It's just part of their life, you know. 60 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: The Patriots what this is the ninth super Bowl for 61 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: Belichick and Brady say that out loud, the ninth super Bowl, 62 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: and it feels like they've been in every super Bowl 63 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: the last like ten years. They've definitely been in like 64 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: three or four times, just in the last obviously Denver 65 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: and Carolina went to the one, But before that, what 66 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: have they've been four and five years, like they go 67 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: all the time. So to me, Obviously, teams change in 68 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: football because of the turnover with players, but their core 69 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: group obviously just beside Belichick and Brady Gronkowski, Edelman, hell 70 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: Hogan played in one last year. A lot of their 71 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: defensive or offensive lineman High Tower, uh the Better, mccordy 72 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: and now his brothers on the team. Gilmore, who came 73 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: from a bad team, played for the Patriots last year 74 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: and was in the Super Bowl. Obviously, the entire coaching 75 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: staff because a lot of these guys, I know, Patricia's gone, 76 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: but Brian Flores, who's actually about to be gone, has 77 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: been on the staff forever. Like they've all been through this, 78 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: the game planning, the way the week goes like most people, 79 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: just like most football players are creatures of habit. You're 80 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: getting a very consistent routine. Even the playoffs has a 81 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: pretty consistent routine. Once you have that, by which is 82 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: a little unique, though you have a bye during the season, 83 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: you immediately get back in the rotation of you play Sunday, 84 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: then you play the following Sunday, and then you play 85 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: back to back games like a normal week. Right, Well, 86 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: then the Super Bowl goes back to a bye week. 87 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: The differences is then you travel to this neutral site. 88 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: You're not home, you're not on the road. I mean 89 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: you are on the road, but it's not a typical 90 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: road game because the other team you're playing is also 91 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: on the road. Well, all these guys know how to operate, 92 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: they know, you know when to tell their wives to 93 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: do this in terms of how many tickets they can 94 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: give out, like everything is just kind of natural to 95 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: the majority of guys on the Patriots, obviously, including the 96 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: coaching staff and the most important player the quarterback, but Grinkowski, 97 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: you name it. That they're just used to this, like 98 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: the advantage they have, and they're always peeking at this 99 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: time anyway, But like, think how hard it's gonna be 100 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: for the Rams. Jared Goff had never played in a 101 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: big game before in his life before he got to 102 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,679 Speaker 1: the pros, and now he's played in the Super Bowl. 103 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: He went from playing like they barely got into one 104 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: Bowl game in his collegiate career to three years later 105 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: he's a starting quarterback of a Super Bowl team. Sean McVeigh, 106 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: like six years ago was a tight end coach. Now 107 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: he's a head coach. Now he's a great coach. But 108 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: think of the jump. Now he's clearly really smart, and 109 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: he's clearly on top of it. And they are gonna 110 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: benefit from two guys to stand obviously Wade Phillips, who 111 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: just helps him out a lot and is a sounding 112 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: board for him, former head coach and been through the ring. 113 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: Was just in a Super Bowl what three years ago 114 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: when Denver came right down the street for me and 115 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: they played at Levi Stadium and beat the Carolina Panthers. 116 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: And obviously to Leave was on that team as well, 117 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: so they got a fuel for it. But for the 118 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: most part, Girle, you know, no think about like Wentworth, 119 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: I think just one his first playoff game of his long, 120 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: illustrious career this season. So the advantage of the Patriots 121 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: half of probably just being a better team, Like if 122 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: you just look at him on paper, assuming Girle is not, 123 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: which I think it's safe to assume he's not, you 124 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,679 Speaker 1: go the Patriots should be And I think it's already 125 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: up to three points neutral field probably like a four 126 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: or five five point favorite. But then when you factor 127 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: in how crazy super Bowl Week is. You're gone for 128 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: a week, you do all this media obligations. It's just crazy, 129 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: you know, it's just a wild week that think about, 130 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: like my first year in college, when you don't have 131 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: your parents to yell at you, like you gotta do 132 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: your homework, you gotta wake up for school. You're like, 133 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to go to class today. You kind 134 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: of you can do whatever you want. And my first 135 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: year at cal Poly, I got the worst grades I've 136 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: ever got, like sneaky. I don't know my parents knew this, 137 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: Like I don't know if I was gonna last long. 138 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: But then you get a hang of everything, and then 139 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: it gets easy, like you know how to procrastinate. You 140 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: know how not to procrastinate if you're on the rams, 141 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: Like do you really know? Like I can study a 142 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: little bit next week. And then you realize you're in Atlanta. 143 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: You're like, I want to go party or I want 144 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: to go screw out with my brother. You know, well, 145 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: Brady and Gronk and all those guys know the schedule 146 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: like the back of their hand because they always are 147 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: in this game. Now the venue may change, the city 148 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: may change, but the schedule for the most part, doesn't change. 149 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: The preparation Like this is not just a normal bye week, 150 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: because in a normal bye week, you can study the 151 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: week of the game. Well during next week, it's gonna 152 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: be a little difficult just because of all the things 153 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,239 Speaker 1: you have to do. Well, Brady and all those guys 154 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: know exactly what they have to have done by the 155 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: time they get to the super Bowl, you know site, 156 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: because once they get there, they know exactly kind of 157 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: like what takes away, how much time you gotta spend 158 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: with your family to exactly what practice is like. Because 159 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: it's different than any other normal week. The advantage of 160 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: the Patriots have, Like I keep wrapping my head around 161 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: this game, and we'll get to it a lot next week. 162 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: I just don't see how the Patriots lose because the 163 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: advantage they have in this game from every aspect, the experience, 164 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: which again I think really matters in this game. I 165 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: don't know Belichick will tell you who cares. I do 166 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: think it matters because I saw it a couple of 167 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: years ago when I lived it at when the game 168 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: was at Levi's all that week being on radio row, 169 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: seeing the Carolina Panthers, they were just kind of happy 170 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: to be there. They were just excited and screwing around, 171 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: where the Denver Broncos were kind of piste off because 172 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: just two years ago they had been there, they had 173 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: got their ass kicked by Seattle. They had a huge 174 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: chip on their shoulder. Obviously it was clear Paint was 175 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: probably gonna be Peyton's last game. I had a lot 176 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: to play for and then they came out and they 177 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: just kicked their ass. This one feels a little bit 178 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: like that, like are the Rams just gonna be happy 179 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: to be there? And I wouldn't blame them. I didn't 180 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: blame Carolina, like you should be happy to be there. 181 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: It's a big deal just to get to the super 182 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: Bowl for teams like this, this was the baseline of success. 183 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: Like the threshold to even begin to have a successful 184 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: season if you work, coach or play for New England 185 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: is just make it to this game. Obviously the goal 186 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: is to win it, but anything like this game is 187 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: just the standard, like this is what they expect. No 188 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: other team expects this. Most teams celebrate just making the 189 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,359 Speaker 1: playoffs like that's a big deal. There is one championship 190 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: or bus team. There's actually two in this country, and 191 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: that's the Warriors, and that is uh. You could argue 192 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: Alabama to or maybe even Clemson now and the Patriots. 193 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: So it's a college team, one NBA team and the Patriots. 194 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: Or it shouldn't be like that in football, but it 195 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: is because the standard in which they raised it. So 196 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: I I just think the experience the learn by doing 197 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: just their their ability to look back on things that worked, 198 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: on things that did not work, and just be comfortable 199 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: with the craziness of next week is something that is 200 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: just invaluable and I think is just gonna be a big, 201 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,599 Speaker 1: a big variable and a large variable and why the 202 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: Patriots end up winning this game. I think easily. One 203 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: of the biggest non head coaching changes happened this week, 204 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: and that was Andy Reid fired Bob Sutton, who had 205 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: been I think a lot of us forget uh and 206 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: just shows you society we live in. Like I say 207 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: this all the time, like people complaining like about I 208 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: complain a lot about the San Fransco Giants because they 209 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: ticked me off that they should operate like the Yankees, 210 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: like every even a couple of down years, they should 211 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: go all back in and try to be winning championships, 212 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: and people are like, two thousand and ten, they won 213 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: a championship, and ten O twelve and fourteen. Two thousand 214 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: and ten was almost ten years ago. Like in in 215 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: the pace in which society operates, that feels like twenty 216 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: years ago, so you can't really live in the past. 217 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: But in all that being said, this was kind of 218 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: starting off as somewhat of a defense of Bob Sutton. 219 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 1: People forget when Bob when when Andy first got there 220 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: and Sutton was defensive coordinator, that the unit was really 221 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 1: good Tamba Houston. Remember they had Don Terry, po Dereck 222 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: Johnson was still really good, Eric Barry before he got sick, 223 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: Like they were one of the best defensive teams in 224 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: the NFL. Like Alex was not that good. I mean 225 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: he was okay, but those first couple of years they 226 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: were a defensive oriented team and their defense was legit. 227 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 1: I remember going to a game it would have been 228 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: two thousand fourteen, so maybe Andy's second year in Kansas City, 229 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: and they were playing Jim Harba's last year at for 230 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: the forty Niners at Levi Stadium, and it was a 231 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: defensive blood path and I think the forty Niners ended 232 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 1: up winning, but it was a Alex threw a late touchdown, 233 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: but it was just a physical like they were kind 234 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: of like two equals of a team. And I think 235 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 1: everyone's other defense been shitty forever now. Actually it's been 236 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: pretty good, and it's been bad lately, and I think 237 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: the change was needed. But I I do think it's 238 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: just the kind of world we live, and people forget 239 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: when you it's just what what have you done for 240 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: me lately? Just society in general. And maybe you could 241 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: argue it's always been like that, but I'd say with 242 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: social media and the pace in which we do everything, 243 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: we we forget things faster than we ever have. Like 244 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: what you did five years ago has never meant less ever, 245 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: especially in football. But I I do think Andy was 246 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: justified for firing this guy, and then there six years 247 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: they were only getting worse, and I don't think he 248 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: was judging him as much on you know, statistically where 249 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: they were ranked. It was just you watch them and 250 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: they consistently blue coverage is guys look like they had 251 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: nowhere to go. You had to make a change because 252 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: in this day and age, you have to be able 253 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: to match up in coverage at least have a chance 254 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: of knowing what's going on. And that Patriot game was 255 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: a clinic, Like you guys have no clue what's coming. 256 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: The irony is they run the same thing. It feels 257 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 1: like most games, Like, hey, guys, when James White's in 258 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: the game, they might run a wheel route to him. 259 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: You know that might happen, you know when Gronkowski, I mean, 260 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: and then when Romo starts calling out the plays, you know, 261 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: it's like, god, they even practice this. And it's the 262 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: one thing with Andy Reid a lead offensive coach, and 263 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: there he has consistently been a great offensive coach. To me, 264 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: this is the best quarterback, I would say, most complete 265 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: quarterback he's ever had as a head coach in the NFL. 266 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: And don't don't forget again, it's a long long time ago. 267 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: Donovan McNabb was a pretty damn good player. Patrick Mahomes 268 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: can become a much better player than than Donovan McNabb. 269 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: So like, you're gonna be able to win big with 270 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: his offense. That's clear. They played like crap in the 271 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: first half and they still put thirty one points on 272 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: the board. When you combine Andy's play calling and Patrick 273 00:13:55,800 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: Mahomes talent ability and upside. Sky's the freaking limit. The 274 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: sky is the freaking limit. But he is dependent on 275 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: a good defensive coordinator. And when he had his most 276 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: success in you know, in Philadelphia, he had Jim Johnson, 277 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: who you could argue is like a Hall of Fame 278 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: level defensive coordinator. You know, I know they run a defense, 279 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: different defense and four three defense, but he was kind 280 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: of the Vic Fangio of his time, like the best 281 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: DC in the league. Uh Now, he was different, more 282 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: aggressive for three and it's what I would imagine. I 283 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: haven't read any quotes that Kansas City is going to 284 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: run and as a friend texted me in the NFL, 285 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: and I do believe this. Now it's just easier to 286 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: run a four three nowadays than a three four because 287 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: it's hard to find the three four nose tackle. It's 288 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: it's more difficult to find the linebackers. With four three, 289 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: it's just easier to find the personnel. And I do 290 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: think the Kansas City will benefit from this. And bottom line, 291 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: coach Read is gonna win a super Bowl or not not, 292 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: depending on his offense. They're they're always gonna be able 293 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: to score points. As long as Mahomes is healthy, and 294 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: let's call it what it is, that's the only thing 295 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: that matters. It's gonna be him. They get stops, like, 296 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: they don't have to have the number one defense. They're 297 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: not gonna need to be Seattle or San Francisco several 298 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: years ago. You just need to have come through in 299 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: clutch situations. If they can ever just be a good 300 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: situational defense in these next several years, the Chiefs can 301 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: win it. And now it's on Steve Spagnola that wasn't 302 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: very good the last time he was a defensive coordinator. 303 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: But coach Read knows them. They have a good working relationship. 304 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: He has seen the mountaintop right. He was a coordinator 305 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: on a team that won a championship and played a 306 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: huge reason that they got over the hump against the Patriots. 307 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: To me, getting an inspiring pass rushers will never be 308 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: the issue for coaches. It's about can you scheme up 309 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: and understand and coach coverages like that is the differentiating factor. 310 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: You listening or me sitting here, like, we could probably 311 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: coach Khalil Mafi Aaron Donald because the position I'm not 312 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: saying we we could be an NFL coach, but we'd 313 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: have a chance. I'll tell you what we could not do. 314 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: We won thousand percent. Could not coach coverages we won 315 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: thousand percent. Could not match up against certain offensive schemes. 316 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: We have no clue. It is the hardest and most 317 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: difficult part of a difficult job in general. Like you 318 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: can build a podcast, like I can just talk into 319 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: a mic, I can download the the uh the software, 320 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: but can you build the software right? Can you build 321 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: the software that can isolate where my listeners are coming from? 322 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: What how old they are? Like that's the hard part. 323 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: That's like can you decipher what Josh McDaniels is gonna call? What? 324 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: Whoever the offensive coordinator? And how is a Pittsburgh's gonna 325 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: call right that that's gonna make or break this team. 326 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: I think Andy knewitt I think he made the right decision. 327 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's gonna work. I mean, 328 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: he hasn't been in the league. Uh, it hasn't been great. 329 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: But you had to make a change, and this was 330 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: probably the best available candidate. Well, there was an interesting topic. 331 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: I actually saw the headline, I go to Rhoda World. 332 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: It's basically like Twitter before Twitter existed, and you use 333 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: a lot in the NFL is a fantasy website. But 334 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: the way it sets it up using the NFL to 335 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: keep track of injuries, you know, especially like when you're 336 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: a personnel, when you're starting off as an intern or 337 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: the lowest guy in the total pole, you know, you 338 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: kind of manually enter injuries in your system. So I 339 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: I go there just naturally every days. It kind of aggregates, 340 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: you know, in a way because I don't want to 341 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: go to Uh, I don't go to Pro Football Talk. 342 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: I go to Rural World and it does the same basically, 343 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: but it's much easier. It's kind of like Twitter on 344 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: a website. And that there was an interesting headline, Uh yesterday. 345 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: I'm recording this on Thursday, so this would have been Wednesday. 346 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: They kind of grabbed my attention, it said, according to 347 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: NFL Draft insider Tony po Line, Paul Line not I'm 348 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: not sure who that is, but some general managers and 349 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: scouting departments are starting to detest analytics as a means 350 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: of decision, may kings and evaluations. I thought this was fascinating, 351 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: and it's been a I would say point of contention, uh, 352 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: you know, for years in pro sports, especially the last 353 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: what ten years, ten fifteen years as the rise of 354 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: Billy Bean and Darryl Morey. Uh, it's definitely overtaken all 355 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: of baseball, which let's call it what it is, is 356 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: basically a game of individual matchups, and you can judge 357 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 1: the game pretty easily like a stock market like it 358 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: is a very number centric game. Basketball somewhat in the middle, 359 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: very numbers driven now at the three point shot, with 360 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: foul shots and percentages. But I think it's fair to 361 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: say that the game there is to me an element 362 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: of things that aren't quantifiable in football, it's hard, right. 363 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: I do think that we struggle to separate like football 364 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: has been using analytics forever. Do you what do you 365 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: think the forty yard dashes? What do you think height, 366 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: weight and speed is? What do you think? You know? Uh, 367 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: he had eighty catches on the season. But I also 368 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: think that the new generation of analytic I guess personnel people. 369 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: And I worked for a guy that is considered one 370 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: in Howie Roseman, and I think what really separated Howie 371 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: and the thing that I always respect about him is 372 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: how hard he worked at evaluating players, Like he always 373 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 1: watched the tape. He was always calling coaches or people 374 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: to find out information on a player, things that you 375 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: can't quantify, to then also balance with the numbers. I 376 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: also think that it is human nature in any industry, 377 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: when things start to change, people get uncomfortable, right You, 378 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 1: if you have a job, you're not always into change 379 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: because that may mean your job may no longer be there. 380 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: Just basic like human survival, right you just you just 381 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: test that person because you start thinking this guy might 382 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: wipe me out. You know. It would be the equivalent 383 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: of like Amazon. You know, they they charge and they 384 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 1: get all these tax breaks and they build these warehouses 385 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: all over the place because they say they're gonna employ 386 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: all these people, but they really are employing way less 387 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: people than they possibly could because they use so many robots. 388 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: And I obviously it's different than football scouting, but I 389 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: think that football scouts are just kind of nervous all 390 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: over the country that eventually that they'll slow more slowly 391 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: and slowly and slowly just kind of be pushed out 392 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 1: and there be irrelevant. And I'd argue with anyone, you 393 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: just have to adapt for the job. Like clearly they 394 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: value analytics and these owners a lot more than they 395 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: ever have in the sense that they want you to 396 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: dive deeper, like, okay, the guy, yeah, he breaks a 397 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: bunch of tackles. If you just say that you have 398 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: any evidence. Now the football scouts have always you know, 399 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: made clips of a guy. Well, now you can also 400 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: back it. I'm sure they have this in depth data 401 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: that you can go you know, he broke of initial contact. 402 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: Just stuff like that. It's not really that complicated. There's 403 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: only so far you can go, you know with this stuff. 404 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, football, i mean 405 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: baseball is on the opposite. Your personality means nothing. There 406 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: is no such thing as chemistry and baseball you either 407 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: get guys out or get hits or you don't. In football, 408 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: who you are as a person, uh, the unquantifiable stuff 409 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: like how tough you are, how much heart you are have, 410 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 1: what your work ethic is is so important because lifting 411 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: and practicing and just working on your craft you practice, 412 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: the ratio is like five to one. You know, on 413 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,719 Speaker 1: a given week. We're in baseball, you play every day. 414 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: In basketball, you play three or four times a week. 415 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: So like, evaluating people is still always going to be 416 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: the most important job of any front office now, why 417 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: wouldn't you use the numbers with the tape to try 418 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: to balance out and make the best decisions. But I 419 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: do understand on the most basic level where if you 420 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: are a sixty year old football scout, you start thinking like, 421 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: am I just gonna get blown out? Am I not 422 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: gonna have? Are they just gonna uh, you know, basically 423 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 1: destroy and evaporate? You know, My position is it just 424 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: no longer going to cease to exist. And I think 425 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: it's understandable for these guys to think like that. But 426 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: I also think like that's part of when you don't 427 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: own a company. As times change and as systems change, 428 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: and as information change, you better change with it or 429 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: you can easily in in this environment where technology gets 430 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: more important, right every year, every six months, it just 431 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: becomes more in the forefront of being able to use it. Right, 432 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: Like ten years ago, a lot of people didn't email. 433 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: Can you imagine saying you don't email anymore? Imagine saying, 434 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: or you don't text like into And I'm not I'm 435 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: just relaying this to scouts that, like in two thousand nineteen, 436 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: I do so much of my business and the commerce 437 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: that comes my way, or that I generate other people 438 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: off emails and texts. I don't call that much anymore. 439 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: I don't need to. Now. I'm not saying that's a 440 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: great thing. You know, sometimes you like to have a 441 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: personal relationship with people, but you don't necessarily have to 442 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: have it anymore. If you can just you know, back 443 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: up how many downloads I got if I'm selling a 444 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: podcast or selling periscope show on Twitter. Well, you know, 445 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 1: in two thousand nineteen, these scouts you do have to 446 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: think outside the box. And anyone that's seen Moneyball knows 447 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: the way he talked to his scouts. I do think 448 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: you can look at it and say, well, you don't 449 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 1: need to be Billy Bean here, but you do have 450 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: to bring something else to the table than just saying 451 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: he's fast, he can jump, like, yeah, we've heard that 452 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: a bunch of times, and we've missed a lot of 453 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: times on that. Can you back it up? And I 454 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: I think that's where we're headed. I don't think there's 455 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 1: just gonna be some mass wipe out of scouts. But 456 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: I do think the more dynamic scouts, the people that 457 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 1: understand how to mesh the numbers. And again they've always 458 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: used numbers but the more in depth numbers with the 459 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: tape and are great judges of people are always gonna last, 460 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: They're always gonna have jobs. And I also understand why 461 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: there is some detesting, right why there is some anger 462 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: from one side. It's natural when when I start forcing 463 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 1: you to change. Humans don't like change. We don't like 464 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: to to be scared that whatever we're doing in life 465 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: might not have value. And that's what I think a 466 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: lot of guys are thinking, Well, the smart ones, and 467 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: there are a lot of smart ones, I know a 468 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: lot of them, especially a lot of young ones. You 469 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: gotta just slowly adapt and you'll be fine if you're 470 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: good at anything in life. The cream always rises at 471 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: the top, and I think these two sides will continue 472 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: to mesh. And it's it's a little bit of a 473 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: blown out of proportion deal right now. Okay, let's dive 474 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: into the Senior Bowl. Uh. The two t game is coaching. 475 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: This game happened to be in my backyard, Gruden Shanahan, 476 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: and you know it's it's arguably the most important draft 477 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 1: in Raider history. I mean, the reason you got here, 478 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: you're draft in the top five is because you suck 479 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: and you traded one of the great defensive players in 480 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,239 Speaker 1: recent memory, Khalil Mack, and you traded one of the 481 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: better players you've had in the last ten years in 482 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper. So you have to do. That's three picks 483 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: in the top and obviously the Niners have the second 484 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: overall pick. Well, when you draft second, that also means 485 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: you draft really high in the second round. I think 486 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: the pick is thirty six. Because the Raiders, Niners, and 487 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: Jets all have the same record, it kind of rotates 488 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 1: after the first round, so the Niners draft second, and 489 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: then it kind of flips. I think the Jets draft 490 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: second in the second round, the Raiders draft third, the 491 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: Niners draft fourth. But there is no disputing this game. 492 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: I was just doing a little research on the Senior 493 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 1: Bowl website because I knew it was a lot uh 494 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: and obviously a lot of top quarterbacks. So this game 495 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 1: has become a lot more sexy the last four or 496 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: five years. Baker Mayfield, Josh Allen, Carson Wentz, you know, 497 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: Derek Carr, Jimmy Garoppolo. A lot of quarterbacks over the 498 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: last you know, probably half decade have played in this game. 499 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: And the quarterbacks in this game Drew lock Uh Daniel Jones, 500 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: a kid from Duke is a guy that I've heard 501 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: a lot of good things about and someone like you 502 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: can't if you're Gruden. He comes from the ron Wolf 503 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: school of thought. Like for the forty Niners, Jimmy Garoppolo 504 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: is gonna come back off the A c L and 505 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: it's clear Nick Mullins is going to be the backup quarterback. 506 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 1: Good find it is an undrafted free agent. But when 507 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: it comes to the Raiders, like they got Nathan Peterman 508 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: and a Jim McCarron, they got to find a backup, 509 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: and he comes from the ron Wolf school of thought. 510 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: Andy Reid home grin all those guys. Reggie mackenzie did 511 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: it a couple of years ago with Connor Cook. He 512 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: drafted Connor Cook even though they had just backed out 513 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: Derek Carr. You always look, you know, to add quarterbacks, 514 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: and I really think the Raiders are gonna be in 515 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: position after coaching this game. You know Gruden's affinity for quarterbacks. 516 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: I will be shocked if he doesn't draft a guy, 517 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: you know, probably between round three and five, whether it's 518 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: Trace McSorley, whether it's you know, Gardner Minshew he's gonna 519 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: like one of these guys, one of these guys from 520 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: this game is gonna be on their team. Now. I 521 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: think the last two years, it's average about thirty three 522 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: of the draft has come from this game. I saw 523 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: John Lynch today on with NFL Network. He's like Fred Warner. 524 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: He was one of their better rookies this year. Came 525 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: from the Senior Bowl. Now, obviously they had scattered him 526 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: during the year, but they loved him during the Senior Bowl. 527 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 1: Both these two teams like the hardest part of scouting. 528 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: Like anyone could tell you Rashaan Gary Sweet right, anyone 529 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: can tell you Nikkil Harry is really good. Anyone can 530 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: tell you guys are really good. And it's clear at 531 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: this practice. You know, I don't know how many people 532 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: are listening. You know, you guys probably are at work 533 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: so they're not able to watch the practice. Like there 534 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: are certain guys. Deebo Samuel's from South Carolina is just 535 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: dominating at wide receiver. This guy I didn't even know 536 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: that much about. And he's right down the street from 537 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: my house where I grew up. Keelan Doss, a wide 538 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: receiver from U C. Davis, is kicking ask I mean, 539 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: there are gonna be so many guys from this game, 540 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: you know. Obviously, once the underclassman come out, they usually 541 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: litter the first round. But this game usually gets four 542 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: to six players in the first round, but then it 543 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: just litters the second, third, and fourth rounds. So these 544 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: two teams, like the hardest part of evaluating talent is 545 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: not whether guy can run, not whether guy can catch, 546 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: not whether guy can pass rush. It's how does he tick? Like, 547 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: how does he respond in a meeting. So when you 548 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 1: yell at a guy on the field and then you 549 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: go correct in the meeting room and then you go 550 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: back to the field, does the guy get it? Does 551 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: he understand that? And these two teams get a front 552 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: row seat, they get to do it, you know. And 553 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: I'd argue this is it's not a make or break 554 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: year for Lyncher Shanahan, but they need a big year. 555 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: I mean, they drafted now in the top ten two 556 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: years in a row. Obviously this year number two overall. 557 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: Now you gotta put it in contact. Jimmy Garoppolos hurt. 558 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: But next year with Jimmy back and you're million time 559 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: to win. Gruden, you trade all these players, like you 560 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: better nail this draft. Well, you can't ask for a 561 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: better opportunity. And I know Gruden has like him and 562 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: Mayock have like a mail erection at this game. I mean, 563 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: there are not two guys, I promise you the one 564 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,719 Speaker 1: I do appreciate about this, about both them, and I 565 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,239 Speaker 1: think John Lynch really likes it. Would Kyle rather not 566 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: be doing it yet I've heard yes, and I don't 567 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: totally blame him. But Gruden is like a kid in 568 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: a candy store. So it is fun having just watched 569 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: the practice, how much joy he's getting on the field. 570 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: And we all know that Mayock, I mean freaking lifts 571 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: for the Senior Bowl and the Combine, Like you could 572 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: just rename that Mike Mayock. So I think both these 573 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: two teams, they're scouts are going into meetings like for 574 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: those that don't realize, Like at the Senior Bowl, two 575 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,239 Speaker 1: of the thirty two teams coach the Senior Bowl, So 576 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: those coaches get those players in in actual install meetings. 577 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: Now at there's like kind of a huge ballroom slash 578 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: convention center where all the scouts can come and you 579 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: interview and guys can sit down with head coaches. You know, 580 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin, and I mean all the coaches or gms 581 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: are present, so they're interviewing these guys one on one 582 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: or as a group. So it's not like they necessarily 583 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: have a lot more inside access, but there is an 584 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: inside access where tomorrow's Friday, well, if you're listening to 585 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: this is probably Friday or Saturday. The the all the 586 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: NFL personnel people bone out of town Thursday night or 587 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: Friday morning, So the Niners and Raiders get those guys 588 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: for like an extra thirty two forty plus hours just 589 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: one on one with them. And I think I saw 590 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: Drew lock was saying that he sat down to breakfast 591 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: and Gruden started drilling him about passes you know that 592 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: he screwed up during the season against Alabama, and then 593 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: you can I mean, you're gonna have this conversation with 594 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: this guy over breakfast. Then it's just a unique situation 595 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: and it's really more powerful for the teams than it 596 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: is for the players. And I've all he said for 597 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: the players, you never there's been like two major injuries 598 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: in the last you know, ten years there. You go 599 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: to make money. It's hard to lose money there, especially 600 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: as a quarterback. If you have a good arm you 601 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: should go if invited. And if you're fast and you 602 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: you're a wide receiver, you one go because fast always 603 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: jumps off the field and good pass rushers. My last 604 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: year in the NFL, Ziggy Anza was like this raw product. 605 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: It was clear he was like six five to sixty whatever, 606 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: could run like the deer. But he wasn't Like you 607 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: watched him at b YU was like, he doesn't know 608 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: what he's doing. Well, of course he doesn't know what 609 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: he was doing. He had moved from Africa like three 610 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: and a half years before. I think the coaching staff 611 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,479 Speaker 1: found him like on campus. Oh he's playing pick up 612 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: hoops and one of the dudes was like, bro, you 613 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: should come out for the team. And they introduced him 614 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: to Bronco Menden Hall. So yeah, he was really raw. 615 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: And then he went to the Senior Bowl practice and 616 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: wasn't even that good. And I vividly remember Brett Veach, 617 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: I think was on the Chiefs by then, text me like, bro, 618 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: you gotta watch the game tape because sometimes you know Saturday, 619 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: like this Saturday, I'm going to play golf. I won't 620 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: watch the game live. Scouts are out their families. Whatever 621 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: you might not watch the game live. You go back 622 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: and watch the tape, and Ziggy dominated the game. It 623 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: was like a high school recruit that's going to Alabama. 624 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: You're like, oh my god, and then what happened. The 625 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: dude went fifth overall. And I think the guy Sweat 626 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: right now from Mississippi State is doing that and it's 627 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: pretty clear that he's gonna be a top ten player. 628 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: It's really probably I was thinking about this today. It 629 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: might be the most lucrative college job interview in America. 630 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: I mean it really for seniors in college in all 631 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: of America. I mean, how many seniors in you know 632 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: get to go to a job convention That's what this 633 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: is and basically interview for a job that's gonna pay 634 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: them anywhere from you know, a fifteen million dollar bonus 635 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: to a minimum five thousand dollars a year. Like it's basketball, 636 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: obviously you can make a lot too, But none of 637 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: the top guys ever worked out at the combine. And too, 638 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: they only have two rounds. When football, you can eventually 639 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: become a millionaire if you get drafted in the fourth round. Right, 640 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: you play three sweet years and then you get extended. 641 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: So it's just an incredible opportunity for all these guys, 642 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: and it is a fun game to watch, Like I 643 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: never understand this, And I think a lot of people 644 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: that listen to me like college football, but sometimes pro people, 645 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: uh don't love college football? Well, if you love the NFL, 646 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: why wouldn't you like watching now specific college football games 647 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: when you go, well, they got three first rounders, Like, 648 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: how would you not be interested? It's like the minor 649 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: leagues that's where the guys come from. Now. I know 650 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people that aren't maybe not that into 651 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: college football start getting into it now with these ball 652 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: get or with the Senior Bowl and then the Combine, 653 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: and then we start getting a pretty good idea of 654 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: who's gonna go where give or take. The marketplace kind 655 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: of starts, you know, playing itself out. What pick will 656 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: I have to use to get that guy? How many 657 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: picks would I have to trade up to get him? 658 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,479 Speaker 1: Could I trade back from five to five team and 659 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: still get the guy I want? That's really kind of 660 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: in full swing right now, and I think they're feeling 661 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: it out. The other story that's kind of national, and 662 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: it's kind of it's kind of local for me, and 663 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: I've talked about it on my other podcast on my 664 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: Periscope show, so I already I can't even talk about 665 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: it that much more. Uh, Derek Carr getting into it 666 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: with a first take, Guy, Listen, I don't take. I've 667 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: met steven A a a couple of times. I like stephen A. 668 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: He's a TV entertainer. I don't go to him for 669 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 1: opinions on anything but probably maybe a little bit of 670 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: basketball Max Kellerman. I've never heard him utter a word 671 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: that I take seriously ever, so I don't care what 672 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 1: he says. But I think Derek needs to get out 673 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: of this. Like clearly he's a little defensive right now, 674 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,919 Speaker 1: and airing your stuff on Twitter is a can't win proposition. 675 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: But I think he needs to get out of the business. 676 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: Like we all know, especially people around the Bay Area, 677 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: like your high character guy. You work hard, You've played 678 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 1: through broken backs, you came right back from a we 679 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: at it. But like when you always say I'm gonna 680 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 1: keep working hard, I'm gonna you know, part of being 681 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: a pro is you're just expected to work hard like 682 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: anyone listening. If you have a big boy job and 683 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: you make a lot of money, like no one is 684 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: you know, checking the clock. When you get to work, 685 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: you're just expected to be there early and stay late. 686 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: You know, anyone that makes a lot of money and 687 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: owns a company, you just put in. You don't count ours. 688 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: You just grind like it's just part of the expectation. 689 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 1: It's part of the standard. Like Tom Brady is just 690 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: working his ass off, you know, Peyton Manning forever just 691 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 1: grinding like Russell Wilson grinds like. It's part of the beat. 692 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: Deal with being a star quarterback making million. Here's the 693 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: other thing. Part of the reason you get all the 694 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: money is because you get all the praise. Well, usually 695 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: when someone gets all the praise, that also means when 696 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: it doesn't go well, you get all the blame. It's 697 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: usually why you get all the girls. That's why you 698 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: get all the fame. It comes with being a quarterback. 699 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: This is part of the deal with being a franchise quarterback. 700 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: You get shipped on sometimes it sucks, you know, but 701 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: you make an astronomical amount of money and it's part 702 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: of the reason. You are the face of the franchise 703 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: with the good and the bad. You know, you're the 704 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the NFL are basically like NBA superstars. They 705 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: just mean more to the franchise. They are just more popular, 706 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: they are more well known. They probably get too much 707 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: credit when it goes well, and they probably get too 708 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: much blame when it goes shitty, But it's part of 709 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: the deal. Sometimes you just gotta suck it up, you know. 710 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: But you can't, like once you get to a certain 711 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: age in life, you know, probably over like I don't know, 712 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: twenty four, you can't really brag about how hard you were. 713 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: You know why, because most people in this country that 714 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 1: are successful work hard. Just as a wise man once 715 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: told me, my partner got Haberman. That's the price of admission. 716 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: You know, you're getting million dollars. You're not only expected 717 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,399 Speaker 1: to work, expecting to win games. It's a great part 718 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: about pro sports. Like you, you just need to not 719 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,839 Speaker 1: say anything. Just come back and win games and play well, 720 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: because that's the only thing we care about in pro sports. 721 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: We don't care like I'll to give you an example, 722 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 1: No one in the Bay Area ever complains about how 723 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: much Steph Curry makes. You know what, it makes thirty five. 724 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: He's gonna make like forty million dollars ext year. You 725 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: know why? He just wins m vps and championships. That's 726 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: all he does. He just kicks ass. You know who 727 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: we do complain about around here, Jeff so Marja for 728 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: the Giants, makes about twenty million dollars. Can't get a 729 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 1: guy out to save his life, you know in pro sports, 730 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: just get the job done. When you don't get the 731 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 1: job done, like for example, Aaron Rodgers this year they 732 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,919 Speaker 1: started losing, he started getting a lot of crap. Why 733 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,879 Speaker 1: because I think he literally made eighty million dollars over 734 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: six months. So it was like the money we you know, 735 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 1: just coming the average guy in this country kind of 736 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: resents wealth. Now we'll respect it. If you're just kicking 737 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 1: ask there's nothing we can say. Like you can talk 738 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: crap about Jeff Bezos all you want, like we all 739 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: use the product. Like you can hate on Tom Brady 740 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: all you want, but no one can dispute. All the 741 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: guy does is win, right, It just it is what 742 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 1: it is. But when you're the star quarterback and things 743 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,399 Speaker 1: did not go well and you're drafting four overall, like yeah, 744 00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: you're a good guy, you're a high character guy. You've 745 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: played well at a high level, but you haven't played 746 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 1: well lately. So just there's no reason to clap back. 747 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,280 Speaker 1: You know, it's a it's a it's a never ending 748 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: cycle that you will not win as a player. It's 749 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: why most quarterbacks don't say anything. And it's it's probably 750 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 1: harder for Derek and even the guys younger than him 751 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: because they've grown up on social media. They all all 752 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 1: say this, Like I I really think millennials, you know, 753 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 1: they take a lot of crap. They are a very 754 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 1: very friendly generation. Like they're more friendly personally than like 755 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 1: I'm the older end of millennials at thirty four. I'd 756 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,720 Speaker 1: say thirty four, like four, early forties much just meaner humans. 757 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: Most people I know in their twenties are just very friendly, 758 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,919 Speaker 1: and I think it's hard for them sometimes just because 759 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: they're so active and they see it all and they 760 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: watch it all now, not that they always didn't, but 761 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 1: it's just you can't keep fighting those battles because you 762 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: will not win them. Okay, let's get in to this 763 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: thing called the Middlecoff mail bag. Slide them into my 764 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: d M s at John Middlecoff and ask away. I 765 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 1: actually just had a question again at John Middlecoff on Instagram. 766 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 1: Slide up into those d M s. I think I 767 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 1: just deleted a question. It was basically, why does the 768 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: media I don't even know if the media just us 769 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 1: in general people when we talk about football, like Brady's 770 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: playing golf, Russell Wilson's playing you know, Dak even though 771 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 1: it's this isn't basketball. It's not like they're on the 772 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: field at the same time. And I think the answer 773 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: is pretty simple. Uh, quarterbacks are just the most famous people. 774 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: So that's just that's just who we talk about. You know, 775 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,800 Speaker 1: if if you have an all Pro guard, the casual 776 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: fans not gonna be like, you know what, Anthony Moonios. 777 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's just not how they talk. I don't 778 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 1: know why I dropped Anthony Moonios. I couldn't think of 779 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: a sweet guard off the top of my head. Um, 780 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: you know, Zack Martin, whoever. But you just it's just 781 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 1: not the way we talk. Even though those guys get 782 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 1: highly compensated. You know, quarterbacks are just you know, like 783 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 1: I was just talking about with car are just the 784 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,359 Speaker 1: most important player. They get paid the most, they get 785 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: talked about the most, they get the most praized, they 786 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,840 Speaker 1: get the most blame. Uh, they get it all. You know, 787 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 1: It's just it's just the deal. Longtime listener could be 788 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: wrong on a couple of points here, but I believe 789 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: Wade Phillips was the defensive coordinator for Kubiak on the 790 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: Broncos team that won Super Bowl fifty and Vaughan was 791 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,800 Speaker 1: the m v P. They also beat the Patriots in 792 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: the a f C Championship game. I think he was 793 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,800 Speaker 1: the only he was one of only a few times 794 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 1: that Brady has ever seemed overwhelmed with an elite pass 795 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: rush like Denver Head. Do you think this will be 796 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: the storyline on game day Brady versus Phillips defense. Haven't 797 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 1: heard anyone talk about phillips previous success against Brady. That's 798 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,760 Speaker 1: a good question. Let me give a little thumbs up emoji. 799 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 1: I. I I do think it's a little different in the 800 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,800 Speaker 1: sense that when Brady got his ass kicked in that 801 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 1: a f C Championship game, and if you remember that, 802 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: you know, I'm pretty sure Gronk wasn't a percent healthy, 803 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 1: but their defensive line was. And I watched so much 804 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: of them because as they were, that wasn't like that 805 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,839 Speaker 1: their heyday, and they were playing the Raiders twice a year. 806 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 1: I just I just watched them a lot. Uh and 807 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure probably a lot of people listening to watch 808 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 1: him a lot. They were one of the best teams 809 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 1: in the league, so they were always on national television game. 810 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 1: It wasn't just Vaughan, you know that, the it was 811 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 1: Malik Jackson. It was Derek Wolfe and he's a coaching now. 812 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 1: But DeMarcus Ware was still on the team. And then 813 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 1: I think they had Shaquille Barrett coming off the uh, 814 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: coming off the bench. Shane Ray I think had just 815 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,720 Speaker 1: been a first round pick and he wasn't even that good. 816 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 1: But their defensive line was just stupid. And that was 817 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,879 Speaker 1: a year people forget this. Dante Scardneckia who actually went 818 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: to college with my uncle. They've been good friends for 819 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 1: like fifty years. Uh, we had retired and they had 820 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 1: another offensive line coach. I think his name was like Guillermo. 821 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,359 Speaker 1: I can't even say his name. He was actually just 822 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 1: the offensive line coach for the Colts and they just 823 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: fired him. But my point was that it was just 824 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 1: kind of a weird year. And this is an all 825 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: time great defensive line, I mean Von Miller, Super Bowl, 826 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: m V, the Hall of Famer. Malik Jackson turned out 827 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 1: he was a max player Derek Wolfe before some injuries, 828 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: was an elite player. DeMarcus Ware Hall of Famer. So 829 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 1: I think it's and if if you look back on 830 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,319 Speaker 1: the defenses that gave him trouble with New York uh 831 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 1: Justin Tuck. I met Justin Tuck. He's like in his 832 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 1: prime six six to seventy, can run like a deer. 833 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 1: J p p Kiwa, Nuka uh O c back in 834 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 1: oh seven stray Hand. I mean they had dudes. When 835 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 1: I look at this Rams defensive line, Aaron Donald, Hall 836 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,360 Speaker 1: of Famer, Sue when he plays hard is a mother. 837 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 1: I get this guy. Credit never been a huge fan. 838 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 1: But Fowler Jr. Who they traded for from Jacksonville, former 839 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 1: top five pick, has looked a lot better. So their 840 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 1: defensive line. I mean Aaron Donald, you know, I put 841 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 1: Von Miller three or four years ago, was elite. It's 842 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 1: like Aaron Donald, you know. I wouldn't say Sue is 843 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 1: quite as good as those other guys, but yeah, I 844 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,479 Speaker 1: mean it could happen. I would say one thing though, 845 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 1: this Patriot team and just the coaching staff, because they've 846 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 1: lost some of those games. There's not you could argue. 847 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe like Walsh and there were probably a couple 848 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 1: like late eighties Parcels Belichick game plans. This is probably 849 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 1: a top two or three game planning staff in the 850 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,720 Speaker 1: history of the NFL. That being the combination of Brady, 851 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,760 Speaker 1: Josh and Bill, Like the combination of the three of them, 852 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,799 Speaker 1: like they're just gonna see things getting ready these two 853 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 1: weeks that you know, beside Parcels and probably Walsh wouldn't 854 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 1: even notice. I'd be a dead series. I mean, it's 855 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 1: just it's probably the greatest think tank. Unlike because it 856 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 1: was just Walsh, I got news for you. I love 857 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 1: the guy. He's a legend. Joe Montana's not the smartest guy. 858 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 1: Uh and Parcels really had Belichick and he said in 859 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 1: the thirty for thirty that he leaned on Bill, like 860 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:56,320 Speaker 1: Bill's probably Belichick. That is probably the smartest football coach, 861 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 1: just smartest football coach besides being the best football coach 862 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 1: of all time. Josh McDaniels, say what you want about him. 863 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 1: He is an elite coordinator, an elite game planner. And 864 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:12,320 Speaker 1: Brady has just turned into like he's morphed into Peyton 865 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,759 Speaker 1: Manning the crazy thing in the early two thousands, Like 866 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 1: when I was in high school and then I went 867 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 1: to college. Probably like a lot of people, I love 868 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. I thought he was a badass, and I 869 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 1: was rooted for him against the Patriots, and then like 870 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 1: eventually it kind of flipped and I kind of became 871 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,359 Speaker 1: a Brady guy. I still like Manning, but remember back 872 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 1: in the day, people are like, oh, Tom's just winning 873 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 1: because of the defense and the coaching staff. He can't 874 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 1: carry the team. Like the last ten years, he's been 875 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,400 Speaker 1: on a war path, a war path of greatness of 876 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 1: just kicking ass, winning m vps and winning chips, you know, 877 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 1: and just going to the super Bowl. He kind of 878 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 1: became Peyton Manning with like a better arm, you know. 879 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 1: It's just a genius think tank. So yeah, I think 880 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 1: it'll be a storyline. I Aaron Donald's a monster, but man, 881 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,839 Speaker 1: they get rid of the ball so fast. And uh, 882 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 1: Dante Scarneki is back, and as I think Brady said 883 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 1: on his w e I show this week, he's the 884 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 1: greatest offensive line coach in the history of the league. 885 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: I had agree. Middlecoff mail back. You mentioned Sean Payton's 886 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,319 Speaker 1: bad play calling in UH in your last episode. Does 887 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 1: he get a bit of a free pass? As a 888 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: head coach. McCarthy just got killed for only winning one 889 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 1: Super Bowl with Aaron Peyton has only won one with 890 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 1: Breeze and missed the playoffs nearly half the time, five 891 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 1: out of a twelve season. Is he a bit overrated? 892 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,239 Speaker 1: A guy lean on in the league. An assistant coach 893 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:35,320 Speaker 1: coordinator has told me multiple times, you think Sean Payton's 894 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 1: the best offensive mind in the league. Now that could 895 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 1: be argued. Uh, you know, I think, like like Andy, 896 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 1: they're very dependent on their defensive coordinator. So a lot 897 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 1: of those seasons that he missed, their defense was historically bad. 898 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 1: They always dominated on offense. I think this team, uh, 899 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,799 Speaker 1: they made a little bit of a calculated risk. Like 900 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,279 Speaker 1: remember they traded up in that draft to get Marcus Davenport. 901 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 1: And I was tech to a buddy in the league 902 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 1: and like it is Mark Staffnport good because they don't 903 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 1: have a first round pick this year And he's like, yeah, 904 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,759 Speaker 1: he's pretty good. He's a little stiff, but I mean 905 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 1: he's like six, he's a monster, but he's not like 906 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,319 Speaker 1: he didn't have a rookie season, Like, is he gonna 907 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 1: be Khalil Mackravon Miller or Aaron Donald. You know, it 908 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 1: doesn't quite look like that. When you trade up in 909 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 1: first round pick, you're basically a player away. Well, now 910 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 1: it's gonna hurt him this year because they're always kind 911 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 1: of tight with the cap because they have a lot 912 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 1: of highly paid players. They only have two players on offense, 913 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas and Alvin Kamara. So I think it's a 914 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,800 Speaker 1: long way of saying I think Sean Payton is really good. 915 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,720 Speaker 1: I think he's a consistent top five coach in the league. 916 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 1: I think it's it's just hard to win in the NFL. 917 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,240 Speaker 1: Like he's had some powerhouse teams these last two years 918 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 1: he won. It's hard to lose at home. I'll say 919 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 1: that like last year they lost to Minnesota, but that 920 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,360 Speaker 1: game was on the road. So that this year, losing 921 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 1: at home and you're the one seed to Jared Goff, 922 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 1: I didn't think. Now part of it is I mean 923 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,680 Speaker 1: Drew Brees is forty years old, and these last two 924 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 1: games he looked forty years old. Now again, I think 925 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,880 Speaker 1: part they don't have great offensive weapons. They have one 926 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 1: elite receiver and one elite running back that's basically like 927 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 1: a pseudo slot receiver. To like Alvin Kamara is kind 928 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:16,399 Speaker 1: of you know, Darren Sprawls in his prime on steroids, 929 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,320 Speaker 1: meets like Christian McCaffrey, you know what I mean. He's sweet, 930 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 1: but you're better off having a little balance, and that 931 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 1: really kind of hurt him in that game. So over, 932 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 1: I think he's properly rated. I think there's one all 933 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 1: time great coach in the league who's arguably the best 934 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,480 Speaker 1: coach ever in Belichick. He's in his own little category. 935 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,440 Speaker 1: And then there's a I think a group of four 936 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,360 Speaker 1: or five guys that are just awesome, you know, that 937 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,359 Speaker 1: are just consistently really good. They're flawed, you know, just 938 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 1: like most players are flawed. Even great players have flaws. 939 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,359 Speaker 1: Like Kevin Durant, you know, he turns them all over. 940 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 1: You know, Sean Payton, he's got some flaws. Andy Reid 941 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 1: has some flaws. Pete Carroll has some flaws. They're better. 942 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 1: They run circles around most of the league. I mean, 943 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,439 Speaker 1: they really do. Now know, Andy hasn't won a Super Bowl, 944 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 1: but I think we'd all agree he's one of the 945 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 1: best coaches in the league. You just don't win it 946 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,760 Speaker 1: every year unless you're Belichick. You know, throw Doug Peterson 947 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,279 Speaker 1: there He's pretty damn good too. There's just a lot 948 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,480 Speaker 1: of good coaches in the league right now. McVeigh Naggy, 949 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 1: a lot of young blood still like I make fun 950 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,360 Speaker 1: of Zimmer being a meathead, but Zimmers are still a 951 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,920 Speaker 1: really good defensive coach. Uh John big fan of the podcast. 952 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,400 Speaker 1: What is your opinion on the Nebraska corn Husters future 953 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 1: under Scott Frost? Will Frost forecast hype? Will the hype 954 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 1: come true? Or are we gonna see them continue to 955 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:37,360 Speaker 1: be average? I'm a big Adrian Martinez guy, their quarterback, 956 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 1: their true freshman quarterback who from Fresno, had some moments 957 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 1: last year, got banged up. Yeah. I talked to a 958 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,400 Speaker 1: buddy that work with Scott Frost. I think he's big time. 959 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 1: I believe in Scott Frost. I just think the quarterbacks 960 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,200 Speaker 1: pretty special and if they can keep them healthy. Their 961 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,279 Speaker 1: coaching staff has proven, you know it. I was gonna 962 00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,879 Speaker 1: say USF, but it's u CF. I mean, they can win, 963 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,759 Speaker 1: they know how to coach. You just meet need more 964 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 1: talent in that conference. The conference is good, right Wisconsin, 965 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 1: Penn State, Michigan, Ohio State. I mean that's that's four 966 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,240 Speaker 1: in Michigan. State's pretty damn good. I mean the conference 967 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,759 Speaker 1: is damn good and it's physical. But I think they 968 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,879 Speaker 1: got a quarterback with Uh. I was trying to think, Yeah, 969 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins is coming out, so I mean they might. 970 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,399 Speaker 1: I like, I take Adrian Martinez over Uh, the kid 971 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,360 Speaker 1: from from Michigan. I'm trying to his name escapes me, 972 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,239 Speaker 1: Shaye Patterson. I'll tell you that much. I I like Nebraska. Now, 973 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,800 Speaker 1: it's just hard. You know, there's a reason usually coaching 974 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,719 Speaker 1: staffs turnover. It's probably a little more difficult than you 975 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 1: think to bounce back. But as he showed at UCF, 976 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,880 Speaker 1: he'll bounce back fast. Now it might be eighting for 977 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 1: it might not be like eleven and one, but I 978 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,399 Speaker 1: think maybe by Adrian's junior year, so a year from 979 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,640 Speaker 1: like not this fall, but the falling fall, they could 980 00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,360 Speaker 1: be a legit team. Anyways, was wondering your thoughts. Another 981 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,840 Speaker 1: question on the Seahawks ESPEC. Actually, now that they're in 982 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,800 Speaker 1: the that the NFC West is loaded with the these 983 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 1: offensive coaches McVeigh, Clay Cliff, and how you think that 984 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 1: Pete and Russ are gonna match up? Well, I know 985 00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,400 Speaker 1: this right now, the Rams are the cream of the crop. 986 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 1: Seattle's played him really well. Actually, the last two years 987 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 1: they had a game I think it was two years 988 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 1: ago in l A. They went toe to toe with them. 989 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,760 Speaker 1: They played him really well both times. This year easily 990 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 1: could have won both the games. So as long as 991 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,479 Speaker 1: you have Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson, like, you're gonna 992 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 1: be good, Seattle is to me, is gonna be better 993 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 1: next year than they were this year. I think how 994 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 1: many young players they have. You know, Rashad Penny is 995 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 1: gonna be a year older. Uh, he should take a step. 996 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,839 Speaker 1: I mean they did draft him in the first round. Uh, 997 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,160 Speaker 1: they have a hot much higher first round pick this 998 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,920 Speaker 1: year because you know, they got knocked out in the 999 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 1: first round. So that when are they ever drafted in 1000 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,160 Speaker 1: you know, like high twenties or they might even be 1001 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:59,080 Speaker 1: like nineteen or twenty. I think they're twenty one. But yeah, 1002 00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 1: I love them. You know, I think that I'm bullish 1003 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,799 Speaker 1: on on Kyle and the Niners if Jimmy's healthy. But 1004 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,279 Speaker 1: I can't just chock them up that they can beat 1005 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,239 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson like I I've seen some 1006 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,440 Speaker 1: of the best teams, Like listen, I know they didn't 1007 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,279 Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. But I've been watching the forty 1008 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,839 Speaker 1: Niners since probably like that I can remember like ninety one, 1009 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 1: so I've seen some pretty good teams. That Niners team 1010 00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 1: is one of the best teams ever, like the not 1011 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,200 Speaker 1: the hardbo Niners in their peak were unreal, never won 1012 00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,879 Speaker 1: a championship, no rings, but that team was could hang 1013 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,960 Speaker 1: with anyone, any era, you know. I I know what 1014 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 1: I saw, and Pete Carroll could give them a game. 1015 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,440 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll can coach like you can put him in 1016 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,399 Speaker 1: a parking lot against whoever, and his team's gonna hang. 1017 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,240 Speaker 1: So I I yeah, I mean, I'm always bullish on Seattle. 1018 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 1: As long as they have they have Russ and Pete, 1019 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,279 Speaker 1: I think it's up to the Rams have proven they 1020 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,960 Speaker 1: can beat him. But the Niners and Cardinals, uh, clearly 1021 00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 1: Kyle hasn't. And Cliff Kingsbury, I mean Ship, he's never 1022 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,880 Speaker 1: coached U Dayan, you know, an NFL game in his life, 1023 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,960 Speaker 1: So I I think he's gonna be okay. Actually, but 1024 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,919 Speaker 1: I I can't just say like I would expect him, 1025 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,600 Speaker 1: just knowing what I know now, to lose both games 1026 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,839 Speaker 1: to Seattle. I think it's gonna be hard for Cliff 1027 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:20,040 Speaker 1: Kings Bear to win divisional games this year. I'm seriously 1028 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 1: considering going into sports analysis and wanted to know recommendation 1029 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:28,239 Speaker 1: for a great school. My first couple of choices our 1030 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:32,880 Speaker 1: full Sale and Hofstra. Any advice. Well, I went to 1031 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,800 Speaker 1: cal Poly and was an agg business major and basically 1032 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:39,319 Speaker 1: transferred into major's a normal business major. I think the 1033 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 1: key is now with all the avenues from YouTube to 1034 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,879 Speaker 1: Twitter to just everything on the internet, it doesn't really 1035 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,880 Speaker 1: matter what you major in. Uh, you know, I know 1036 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 1: there are some broadcasting school Syracuse, Missouri, you name it. 1037 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,200 Speaker 1: There's some big ones. I think you can go wherever 1038 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,640 Speaker 1: Cream rises. Just work on your craft. That's what I'd recommend. 1039 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:00,680 Speaker 1: Just if you want to get into bride casting, whether 1040 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,839 Speaker 1: it's play by play, whether it's opinions, whatever. You want 1041 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 1: to get into scap behind a mic, start recording, that's 1042 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,120 Speaker 1: a great thing. iPads. I mean I do a daily 1043 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,520 Speaker 1: periscope show on my iPad and make money off it, 1044 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,480 Speaker 1: So I mean you can do that. You do it 1045 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,399 Speaker 1: on your phone. You know, technology is is your friend. 1046 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,520 Speaker 1: You don't need to be you know, I'm lucky that 1047 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,319 Speaker 1: Colin reached out. But now I couldn't. I wouldn't have 1048 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 1: the reach clearly. But at me, you know, I just 1049 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,759 Speaker 1: started up. I've been doing a podcast for a while 1050 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,759 Speaker 1: before I started doing this one, So you can just 1051 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,080 Speaker 1: do the I mean, I just have an Apple computer 1052 00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,160 Speaker 1: right now talking into a MacBook Pro. Uh. It's a 1053 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,480 Speaker 1: great part about technology. It's really kind of there for 1054 00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,640 Speaker 1: you to do what it. You don't really need other 1055 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,080 Speaker 1: people now you eventually do to make money, and I 1056 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,200 Speaker 1: get to all that. I'm not just trying to sell 1057 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,239 Speaker 1: you on a dream here, but you can start now 1058 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,719 Speaker 1: with kind of bare minimal essentials that you probably already have. 1059 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,319 Speaker 1: So yeah, good luck. Just you know, you don't need 1060 00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,440 Speaker 1: to go to the to the best school. I mean, 1061 00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,400 Speaker 1: so's the guy that couldn't get into any of the schools. 1062 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,720 Speaker 1: One more question. I know you've talked about how baseball 1063 00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,880 Speaker 1: is dying and only old people watch it. What do 1064 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,400 Speaker 1: you think about Major League Baseball expanding and creating new 1065 00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,120 Speaker 1: buzz de younger generation. There's been rumors at the A's 1066 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:15,560 Speaker 1: relocating in Portland being a viable option UH and financial 1067 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,680 Speaker 1: support from Russell Wilson and SIRA. Do you think that 1068 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 1: would UH reinvigorate the casual baseball fan, maybe in Portland. 1069 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,319 Speaker 1: I I just think that the NFL, and I say 1070 00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,120 Speaker 1: it all the time, Like, listen, I watch NBA games 1071 00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,959 Speaker 1: every day, you know, I watch over a hundred sixty 1072 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,839 Speaker 1: baseball games. Like I'm kind of a sports loser, but 1073 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,320 Speaker 1: I know most people don't. I think a huge element 1074 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,200 Speaker 1: is just gambling and fantasy football. I I do think 1075 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,479 Speaker 1: that the A's could eventually move to Portland. I also 1076 00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 1: think that Seattle is going to get a basketball team, 1077 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,280 Speaker 1: having scouted a little bit in that area. The University 1078 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:54,279 Speaker 1: of Washington, Uh, Portland State, Oregon. I mean, it's just, 1079 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,800 Speaker 1: it really is one and I went my little brother 1080 00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:02,200 Speaker 1: got married. We took his assler party abandoned dunes. It 1081 00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 1: is one of like Oregon and and just the state 1082 00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,480 Speaker 1: of Washington is probably one of the more underappreciated just 1083 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,560 Speaker 1: areas in all of America. No one really talks about it, 1084 00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,799 Speaker 1: but anyone that knows knows. Like if you if you're 1085 00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:17,920 Speaker 1: a golfer and you want to play bandon dunes, it's 1086 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,800 Speaker 1: pretty incredible. I mean, I shot, and I'm a decent golfer. 1087 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,239 Speaker 1: I shot a hundred and had of the time of 1088 00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,160 Speaker 1: my life. I mean it's it's awesome. It's really cool. 1089 00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,320 Speaker 1: Went up there for a couple of days party, played golf, 1090 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,000 Speaker 1: and obviously I've gone to I've actually never been to 1091 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:36,600 Speaker 1: a Seattle Seahawks game in Seattle, but I went to 1092 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,080 Speaker 1: University of Washington game when they were playing there. Yeah, 1093 00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,279 Speaker 1: I mean, I think baseball would work. You'd have to 1094 00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 1: go a dome because it rains so much. I think 1095 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,200 Speaker 1: that's why. I mean, my favorite baseball team ever growing up, 1096 00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,960 Speaker 1: even as the Giants fan, was that you know, ninety 1097 00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,879 Speaker 1: Seattle team with Griffy and a Rod in the big unit, 1098 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,640 Speaker 1: J Buner. I mean I batted like J Bunor in 1099 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,880 Speaker 1: Little league for like five straight years. I couldn't hit ship, 1100 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,120 Speaker 1: but I had that open dance and now I'm bald, 1101 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,160 Speaker 1: so it kind of it kind of works. But yeah, 1102 00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,759 Speaker 1: I mean I think that it's just hard. It's just 1103 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,960 Speaker 1: a lot of inventory and people aren't as interested. But 1104 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 1: appreciate everyone. Uh, keep hitting me up Instagram at John 1105 00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,720 Speaker 1: Middlecoff and uh, you know, I'll talk to you guys. 1106 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,560 Speaker 1: Have a good weekend. I'll talk to you on Tuesday 1107 00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,919 Speaker 1: and we'll start getting ready for the Super Bowl. John 1108 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:24,880 Speaker 1: middlecop three and out podcast out