1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast is due for a dirt asance. 2 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: presented by New Era. My name is Dan hansis joined 4 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: in the room filled with heroes Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: and Greg Rosenthal. What is up boys? Hey Dan? A 6 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: little update on the Dernissance. Well, we have a friend 7 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 1: here at NFL Media, Tara Deaker, who is friends with 8 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: Laura Dern and multiple other high level celebrities. So I'm 9 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: very suspicious of whatever tars doing outside of work. But um, 10 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 1: the message got to Laura Dern that she was the 11 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: centerpiece of a segment on our show, and she said, 12 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: thank you for acknowledging my Dernissance. That's it. Not like 13 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: I'd love to come on the show my favorite team. 14 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: It's just it's an opening sal But we could we 15 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: could make that. We could try. Although Deaker seemed to 16 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: want I asked if I context Laura Dern and just 17 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: say thank you for thanking us. Did not allow me 18 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: on her phone to do that at all? Well, asking 19 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: for her Yeah, the phone number seems maybe a step too. No, 20 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: I was gonna be on her phone and she said, no, 21 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: this will not be happening. You've grown used to taking 22 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: liberties with other people's phones, but she usually surrendered to 23 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: you with no qualms. Deaker knows that. So there, what 24 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: do you mean phones? What do you got? What's cooking 25 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: with you and phones? Well? He often you know that 26 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: he writes little you know modern syr no di Bergerac 27 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: love letters to people on dating site forget. Well, that's 28 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: that could be a whole side. He said, control of 29 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: my phone on dating sites before it's four, it's four 30 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: four friends people gave up to Yeah, you're not like 31 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: hacking into Yeah, I took David really, he was. He 32 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: was about to go on this high octane date based 33 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: on all the work I did. He really took over 34 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: the conversation. No date ever happened. So, speaking of which, 35 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: we don't know if Really is going to be West's 36 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: best man for the Way Sing next year. We've got 37 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: an idea, but nothing's official. Um. He also, if he 38 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: ends up defying the odds and gets invited to US's wedding, 39 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: is somehow the best man in a highly unlikely scenario, 40 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 1: he's got to get a date two. So maybe if 41 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: that ever happened, that would be phase two of Eli's 42 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: involvement with the show during SU we're getting out of 43 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: phase one on this plan, but probably not. By the way, 44 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: this is our first Wednesday show since we went back 45 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: to three times a week, and it will be for 46 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: the foreseeable future, I believe, at least through training Camp 47 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: our video show. So if you want to see what 48 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: all these bozos look like, you know, in the flesh, UH, 49 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: you can check out the Around the NFL Video Show, 50 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: presented by New Era, and that streams Fridays at noon 51 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 1: Eastern and you can find that at NFL dot com 52 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: slash a t N Live and if you miss the 53 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: live airing, don't fret that same link will just take 54 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: you to a continuous UH stream. It actually streams Thursdays 55 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: at new Thank You Wednesday. Yeah that makes sense, Thursday 56 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: neon in Eastern, So make sure you check that out. 57 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: Today's show a lot to get to because teams are 58 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: now all reporting for camp as we know, so so 59 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: much to talk about, UH, including a big, big deal 60 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: UH involving the Los Angeles Rams and another RAMS star 61 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: that didn't get a deal who because he doesn't have 62 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: a deal, isn't with the Rams. So we'll talk about 63 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: all that. Uh. And also we will debut a new segment. 64 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: Always good to debut news segments where we're like seven 65 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: thousand shows deep, so let's get to like work some 66 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: new in the mix. Right. You can't just rest on 67 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: your laurels. No, I mean that's absolutely true. You won't 68 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: get very far. I always I think it'd be fun 69 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: for one off season to do, you know, segments that 70 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: we've ever done before. What do you think about this 71 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: challenge for next off I mean you you openly disdain 72 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: many of our segments, so I see, I'm a suspicious 73 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: of the aloems like a lot of work. Let's say 74 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: off season four, anyway, a new segment, Fly on the Wall. 75 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: What if you could be a fly on the wall 76 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: at any facility, uh in the country during training camp? 77 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: What would you like to be on a fly? Fly 78 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 1: on the wall and like to see in here? That is, 79 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: you don't want to be a fly on the wall 80 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: and Patriots camp, Belichick just takes out the swattering wash'll 81 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: be squashed. Um, all right, So that's what's coming up 82 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: on the show. But before we do that, way, say 83 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: hi to our producer Lindsay fault On. Um, you'll be 84 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: going on vacation soon. So this is your last show 85 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: for a bit. That's correct. I will be gone for 86 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: about three shows, going up into the wilderness, hiking in 87 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: the Allegheny Mountains. Oh boy, with with who with my family? 88 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: Can I recommend a book for you, Bill Bryson, Walk 89 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: in the Woods a great book. It's from walking from 90 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: one end of the Allegheny Trail to the other. Really, 91 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: oh wow, I'll write that down. I actually was looking 92 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: for some books. Um. I'm a little nervous though, because 93 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: my friend who's already there, So they've had a five 94 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: hundred pound bear and four cubs on their porch this morning. 95 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: So well it's problematic. Wait, you're camping, but you have 96 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: a porch, Well they have they stay in a cabin. 97 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: Not just done it. I want to get like a 98 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: spectrum of how rustic this trip will be that puts 99 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: it somewhere between two and three. It's pretty pretty rustic. 100 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: There's like houses that haven't been pumped in god knows 101 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: how many decades. It's pretty disgusting. I'm not a big 102 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: fan of the idea of camping. It just seems, you know, 103 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: problematic itself in general. But I did, uh the Today 104 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: Show was on in the background of my home in 105 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: the morning, as it often is, my wife is pound 106 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: the table for the Today's show. And they now have 107 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: tents that get you can buy them and they basically 108 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: are on your car roof and then they can just 109 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: be assembled on the roof. Put me up there. Are 110 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: you guys gonna take your kids? Kid? That's a big 111 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: decision whether you take your kids camping. Oh, I definitely would, 112 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: But have you they're they're getting it. We've can we've 113 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: camped a little in the backyard. And the book you're 114 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: talking about, he goes from Maine to Georgia on the 115 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: Appalachian Trail. That takes like four months. Oh it's yeah, 116 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: he didn't make it all the way. One book. One 117 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: book not to read into the wild, right. I feel 118 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: like campion is like a lot like religion with your family, 119 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: Like if you were if you grew up no religion 120 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: or no camping, that's not something you're gonna just start 121 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: doing out of nowhere. At least that's my experience. It 122 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: also feels like I just kinda like start the trend, 123 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: let's start doing it. Well, unless the significant other had 124 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: that in their roots, but you're in there is a 125 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: bit of a regression there. I mean, it's like, let's 126 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,559 Speaker 1: go live how people did a hundred and fifty thousand 127 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: years ago. At this point, I just I'm trying to 128 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: make sure Dan can't. Dan. We have about roughly a 129 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: news items to get to and we're camping things pretty good. Okay, 130 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: let's do some news. I know you're all about this 131 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: year and all understand us, right, and um, I'm doing 132 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: my job. I didn't ask about last year. Yeah, last 133 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: year's last year. I'm not focused on last year. What 134 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: about the fact that everywhere we go folks want to 135 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: ask about Malcolm Butler and we'll talk about that, that's 136 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: multiple months ago. Is going to be any more explanation 137 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: about why he didn't play? It? Focused on training camp? 138 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: Did you do it any differentely? Training camp? Well, we're 139 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: getting started. We'll work on that right now. We'll do 140 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: it the best we can. Let me say that, gude, 141 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: he's kind of ruined my life, at least as a 142 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: football fan. But I will miss that man when he's gone. Belichick, Belichick, 143 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: I won't miss Dan. Dan Haughnessy, who is the man 144 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: asking that? Hey, he had to ask the question? An 145 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: infamous an infamous reporter in the Boston area. He's basically, 146 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: if you want a guy to go just Annoy Belichick, 147 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: you send you send Dan Shaughnessy, but is famously called 148 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,679 Speaker 1: HB the Curly Haired Boyfriend by former sock player Carl Everett. 149 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: I once this this out old, I am. I once 150 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: read a column of or a book of Dan Chaughnessy columns, 151 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: and it was definitely in the nine Oh yeah, he 152 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: came up with the curse. Wow, we're really off topic. 153 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: Let's start with the Los Angeles Rams and a big, 154 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: big signing for the team. The Rams and running back 155 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: Todd Gurley have agreed to terms on a four year 156 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: contract extension worth up to sixty million forty five million 157 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: and guarantees rap she'd had this, uh that keeps girly 158 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: in l A or should um for the next six 159 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: seasons through UH. And that is the largest amount of 160 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: guaranteed money forty five million ever for a running back. 161 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: A lot of wheat, Greg Rosenthal, you wrote about Gurley 162 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: and the amount of money got paid that which would 163 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: raise eyebrows considering we were in the era where running 164 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: backs don't tend to get paid. But you think, Greg, 165 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: this should just be the start of a trend. I 166 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: think it will. I think the Rams were smart to 167 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: get ahead of it. A lot of people immediately say, like, 168 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: don't why do you why would you pay running backs? Well, 169 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: first of all, Todd Gurley, Zico Elliott, David Johnson, Levan Bell, 170 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: they're all gonna get paid over the next year or two. 171 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: And they are all difference making backs, big backs that 172 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: can play every down, And so they're getting that contract 173 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: out of the way. First, those guys are probably gonna 174 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: wind up making more than Todd Gurley. Second, it's guarantees, 175 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: not guaranteed money. So we haven't quite seen all all 176 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: the deals, you know, all the details, Yeah, and so 177 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: I want to see that. And then most importantly, he's 178 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 1: twenty three years old. He's twenty three years old and 179 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: has already been an offensive Player of the year. They're 180 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: not signing Sean Alexander at thirty one years old, or 181 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 1: Chris Johnson, who was limited in some aspects of his game, 182 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: or Adrian Peterson's last contract. They're signing a guy who 183 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: can do everything, and they have him locked up for 184 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: six years in the middle of his prime. The same 185 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: people that are criticizing how much money they gave him, 186 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: are going to be saying three years from now, Wow, 187 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: this guy is really underpaid, because he will be underpaid 188 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: in three years. That's just how these things. You made 189 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: a good point in your right up. That are we 190 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: trying to say that these four it's not every starting 191 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: running back that's gonna get paid this way. There's a 192 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 1: small collection of guys that do everything for you, A 193 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: Levy on Bell, Todd Gurley, and that are we trying 194 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: to say that they're running back money should be lower 195 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 1: than a Sammy Watkins or the ninth or eleventh, tenth 196 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: best receiver in the league. He's setting less than Nate Solder. 197 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he's still getting less than Nate Solder. You 198 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: can't tell me he's not more valuable than Nates Soldier. Well, 199 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: there is position scarcity, and that's why Nate Soldier gets 200 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: paid because it's much easier to find a running back 201 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: than a left tackle. But the Sammy Watkins point is 202 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: a good one, because wide receivers is not a scarce position. 203 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: You can find a wide receiver. Why would Sammy Watkins 204 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: get paid more than a guy like Todd Gurley or 205 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: David Jonson? And I would argue running back like Gurley 206 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: is a scarce position to that level of and I 207 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 1: think he really does till the field. But none of 208 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: you can put like say James White, and um, I 209 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: don't know who's a great running back who's not involved 210 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: in the passing game. There probably aren't many anymore. But 211 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: if you put like a good two down back with James, yeah, 212 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: you could get for a very cheap contract, you could 213 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: get Todd Gurley level production. And speaking of great running 214 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: backs that are scarcely just because of their skill, Ot 215 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: levy on Bell, who has been trying to get this 216 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: type of deal for years with Pittsburgh. He tweeted after 217 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: the news got out, L O L and people thought 218 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: I was tripping. Yeah. Do we look at the Steelers 219 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: and say they did not get they did not handle 220 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: this correctly. I from the Steelers perspective, I can't kill him. 221 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 1: They pay him twenties. First of all, he's already getting 222 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: paid a lot. He's getting paid like a top five 223 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: player at any position. He's gotten twenty six million dollars 224 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: over the last two years. I think they're kind of 225 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: okay with letting him sign a big deal elsewhere after 226 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 1: getting another four hundred touches out him. With that said, 227 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: if he's healthy and he makes it to free agency, 228 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: I fully expect him to blow this Todd Gurley deal 229 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: out of the water, because you're gonna have to. He 230 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: also has a bad knee injury mensions off the field stuff. 231 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: Four years ago. I've always it always started. It started 232 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: to feel like to me that the Steelers are going 233 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: the route that the Cowboys once went with DeMarco Murray. 234 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: Use him up and then let somebody else over pay 235 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: for a guy in the back end of his prime. 236 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: And other Rams news Aaron Donald Donald who's also been 237 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: trying to get paid forever. As he watches his teammates 238 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: new teammate Brandon Cooks and Gurley get big contracts, Donald 239 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: can't get paid. Uh, So he begins training camp not 240 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: with the team, and if you remember Mark Lastie's and 241 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: he also sat out all the training camp before rejoining 242 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: the team, and once he got in the action, he 243 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: was still an impact player. But are we head that 244 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: way again? Well West wrote up a great piece on 245 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: this talking about the Rams sort of team building in 246 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: cap space, so I'll save that for him. But the 247 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: one thing I think that's tricky is if you're Aaron Donald, 248 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: you have to see what happens with Khalil Mack and 249 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: the Oakland Raiders. I don't think you want to be 250 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: the guys signing the contract first. You probably want to 251 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: come off that contract and make better off of that. 252 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: And the Rams have said we've planned for this signing, 253 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: but General manager Less Sneak called it a very tricky, 254 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: complex situation. He's already said they're gonna make Aaron Donald 255 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: the highest paid defensive player in the league. They've allocated 256 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: the resources in their cap to make sure they have 257 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: the space to do that. I think all the criticism 258 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: of the Rams for signing Cooks and Girlely before Donald 259 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: is misplaced, because, first of all, you don't know how 260 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: much you don't know. Anyone criticizing the you don't know 261 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: what kind of due diligence they've done. You don't know 262 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: if Donald's representatives are holding up a deal waiting for 263 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: Khalil Mack. You don't know how much you don't know. 264 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: So to me, what's interesting now is Donald has to 265 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: report a month before the start of the season, or 266 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: else he loses a year of free agency, which would 267 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: make him a restrictive free agent. Are his agents like 268 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: so confident that he's that good of a player that 269 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if he's restricted or unrestricted, They're still 270 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: gonna get a huge payday regardless. I think the criticism 271 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: is insane, all the people pointing out how does Cooks 272 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: and Girly well, because first of all, they're getting paid 273 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: far less. I bet if you combine their true guaranteed 274 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: money of those two deals, it won't add up to 275 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: what Aaron Donald also the right and what Aaron Donald 276 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: does probably already being offered. There's reports out there that 277 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: he's already been offered, you know, to be the highest 278 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: paid defensive player easily. And what does it really matter 279 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: what the order is? I have absolutely doesn't. I have 280 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: absolutely no doubt that he is going to be a 281 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Ram for a long time, and I'm pretty 282 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: confident he'll won't be on the field again until he 283 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: has a new contract. So just I think some of 284 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: the Rams fans are from down Dan, stop being so 285 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: fired up about it. Dan does not look fired up 286 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: at all. But they also this, this happened last year. 287 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: Donald stuff, I got, I got. This is that time 288 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: of year where there's about eight of these sort of 289 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: annoying situations, just hanging out there in the atmosphere. Julio 290 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: Jones and not planning to report to camp on Thursday. 291 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: According to rap Sheet, he is comfortable sitting out all 292 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: of camp. Rapp a Board added Julio skipped all offseason 293 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: team workouts. Uh. He did attend to Matt Ryan passing camp. 294 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: He wants a new deal. He's got three years left 295 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: on his current deal. Uh. And the Falcons have indicated 296 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: that they are looking to get contracts done with players 297 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: that have a more pressing contract issue than him, So 298 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: they're playing this is a businessman, apparently a very good businessman, 299 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: Julio Jones is, and he's using the leverage of being 300 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: one of the best wide receivers alive and hoping when 301 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: something comes of that. I mean, get what you can. 302 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: But I would say in this situation he has very 303 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: little average doesn't seem like he does. Uh, it doesn't. 304 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: But it's also inspired some of the worst commentary in 305 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: Atlanta about It's some radio host saint he his his 306 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: his his ten year old son had to change the 307 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: desktop on his computer because not his desktop. Julio Jones 308 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: is no longer a person that he can look up 309 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: to because he's like, he's money hungry and another guy, 310 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: I believe his co host or a guy on the radar, 311 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: I trade his. But if he doesn't show up yet, 312 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: Greg wont be playing on that show anytime soon. What 313 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: ten year old is still using a desktop computer on 314 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: a day to day basis, Well, it's the man's own 315 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: computer and he needs to really, how can we explain 316 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: this to the to the children. Ten year old is 317 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: listening to a radio show? Uh. In other Falcons news, 318 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: general manager Thomas di mitch Off and head coach Dan 319 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: Quinn both get three year extensions. This is how it 320 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: should be done, My stupid team. They always mess this up. 321 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: You get a pairing that you like, You keep them 322 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: on the same deals together, you keep everything in lockstep. 323 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: The Falcons are doing things the right way. You don't 324 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: feel the Jets have that thread at the moment, not 325 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: very rarely. Doesn't seem like this always seems like a 326 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: no brainer. But you see it across the NFL where 327 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: the contracts are mismatched between the coaching and general manager, 328 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: and that is such a key partnership. Like what Rhoda 329 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: World said in a bit bit of a cynical that 330 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: they thought this was simply done now to take Julio 331 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: Jones out of the A storyline. Oh my god, Rhoda 332 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: World is one of these people that like the hit 333 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: in I saw like Bill Barnwell or something tweet about this. 334 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: What you give these guys extensions mon folio Jones, Well, 335 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: first of all, they're not players, they're coaches, and youbably 336 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: done weeks and months and you don't have to worry 337 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: about setting a precedent for other coaches in general managers 338 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: in your organization that will like, it's just insane, the 339 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: amount of comedy from people who think they know more 340 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: than team demotrof is. He's a gangster. Like not many 341 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: uh not many gms have had the job as long 342 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: as he has, and very few ever pull it off 343 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: with like two contract extensions with different coaches. That when 344 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: that's the next that's the top level of gms, when 345 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: you can have different coaches and you're still getting contracts. 346 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: You learned that sotting the Cleveland Brown Stadium field under 347 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick back in the day, absolutely and non contract talk. 348 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, the Philadelphia Eagles quarterback recovering from reconstructive knee surgery, 349 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: likely headed to the pop list to start the training 350 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: camp for the Eagles. Rap Sheet reported that the most 351 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: likely cautious scenario is that once begins on the pup list, 352 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: UH and any player placed in that list, of course, 353 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: can come off at any time, so this shouldn't necessarily 354 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: be read as a situation mark where he's not gonna 355 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: be ready for the start of the season. That still 356 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: seems like the goal in a reachable goal, but he's not. 357 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: All systems go a long way away from week one. 358 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: There's plenty again, it's anohing where there's players all over 359 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: the league where you're taking the cautious approach, and this 360 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: is the most important player on your roster, why not? 361 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: Why not starting Nick Foles the first four weeks if 362 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: you have any concerns whatsoever. I know, two weeks. I 363 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 1: don't think that's out of the realm of possionelity. This 364 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: is the one injury that well, we'll be watching week 365 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: after week in camp, and I don't think it's crazy 366 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: to imagine full starting week one. Everyone. R G three 367 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: came back from his knee surgery and during UH like 368 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 1: spring minicamp, he released a hashtag mission accomplished. Yeah, that 369 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: generally that tag doesn't work for people that George. Yeah, 370 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: it's gonna say it's typically that doesn't have a good 371 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: track record, the missioncomplished. It was something missing telling me 372 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: three came up with a hashtag. It was like maybe 373 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: hashtag no problems here, Yeah, something like hard to believe 374 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: that guy didn't have a bump or stick or a hashtag. 375 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: I found it. I found that a random article. I 376 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: was going through my archives for some reason, and well, 377 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: I was looking for a specific article that that was 378 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: the reason. I'm just trying to get airtime. And there 379 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: was an article I wrote in two thousand twelve and 380 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: it was Andrew Luck explains why he doesn't take as 381 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: many endorsements as r G three, And I thought about 382 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: like people were like, oh, yeah, Andrew Luck, what a 383 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: great guy. RG three was smart to take all that money. 384 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: I mean, why not take all that endoor it? You 385 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:46,959 Speaker 1: never know what's going to happen. Look at what has 386 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: happened to him. Yeah, smart man, very strong opinions on 387 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: taking endorsement money. I'm sorry, I'm trying to google to 388 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: find what the hashtag was. It was. It was like 389 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: a t shirt. He was right. I'll find it by that, 390 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: of course I will, even if it takes me out 391 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: of the podcast completely. Moving on Baltimore Ravens head coach 392 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: John Horriba, you know all this talk about Lamar Jackson 393 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: and Joe Flacco. I'm very excited about it because of 394 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: that sports movie, as West uh figured out on Monday show. Um, 395 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: but you know a lot of drama around the rookie 396 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: and the veteran, the Super Bowl winning veteran. But John 397 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: Harbor says, hey, everybody, and speaking of r G three, 398 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: it's gonna nicely connect. Harbor says, we're gonna see the 399 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: rook one way or another. He's gonna be out there 400 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: taking snaps. According to the Toronto Sun. Uh, what's the 401 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: Toronto Sun doing that? Lamar is also an exclusive John 402 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: Crick of the Toronto Sun. By the way, he was 403 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: the only person that had this information. Lamar is also 404 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: a weapon for us who can play quarterback. And we're 405 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: gonna play Lamar quarterback. So we're gonna play all of 406 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: our good players. I don't see why we wouldn't. You've 407 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: got this first. He even gave Son's John Creick a 408 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: shout out. Mark I loved it. I had to write 409 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: this up and then two things. Number One, I think, well, 410 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: hold on, I'll get into that in a second. But 411 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: the the Ravens I think are or I really looked 412 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: at this with a suspicious eye when this whole started, 413 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: in these training camp plays and stuff. I really think 414 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: they want to find a way to use him, and 415 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: I think it's legit. They're probably just trying to out 416 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: how who do you have to take off the field 417 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: to do that. But number two, this is like the 418 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: fourth or fifth day in a row that Lamar Jackson 419 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 1: is like dotting the NFL dot com website and we're there. 420 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: We had I think three Lamar Jackson stories either yesterday 421 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: in the day before combined. And I can tell already 422 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: that he's one of these guys that our news desk 423 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 1: anytime he speaks, opens his eyes, rolls out of bed, 424 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: drives across town to get a sandwich, we're gonna be 425 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: writing a story about it. Well, he's exciting, he's an 426 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: exciting player. I'm just saying, when he starts playing, maybe 427 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: that'll be exciting. But I don't think we need to 428 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: like spend uh four days out of a week talking 429 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: about Lamar Jackson, who's going to be on the field 430 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: four times in a month. It's it's great pr to 431 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: play in that Hall of Fame game because you get 432 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: a whole week of news by yourself, podcast, NFL network 433 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: really on top of the world at that point, aren't you. 434 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: You can't pay for that. It's kind of weird to 435 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 1: me though, that he basically is saying RG three has, 436 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, no chance to be a backup, or 437 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 1: they would keep all three quarterbacks active on game day 438 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: because he was making it clear not only will he 439 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: be active, he will be playing snaps. So that's over. 440 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: They've decided. We convinced RG three is making this time. 441 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: But it's still strange for the head coach to basic 442 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: to say. A few days there was a play where 443 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: it was Lamar Jackson and ORG three and no flaking 444 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: on the field to the one thing, Mike, you're a 445 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: follo our boy. He was at he's been at Ravens 446 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: camp and he did. He did pour a little cold 447 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 1: water on the buzz hype train here for Lamar Jackson, 448 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,959 Speaker 1: where that there is inconsistencies in his game that they 449 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: have to work out. He has no experience calling plays 450 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: either not that all that can be worked out, but 451 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: it's like he's not gonna start games right away. Finally, 452 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 1: in the news, the Cleveland Browns, I'm still for we've 453 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: lost it. Dan is looking for this hashtag things. I 454 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: rolled my eyes because you spend all this time like 455 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: everybody acts like, oh, it's a big mystery, what's going 456 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: on with Ravens. No, it's not. Flaca is gonna play 457 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: every game in September. Lamar Jackson's gonna be on the 458 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: field for like one play or one snap, and r 459 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: G three is not gonna be on the roster. That's 460 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: gonna happen with the Ravens September. Alright, Moving on, the 461 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: Browns are considering Dez Bryant what Mark seesla the Dallas 462 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: Cowboys UH wide receiver who has been out of work 463 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: since being released a couple of months ago. Now there 464 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: is a potential job opening in Cleveland now that Josh 465 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: Gordon has removed himself from the mix as he tries 466 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: to get well, and that remains kind of a hard 467 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: to discern situation surrounding Gordon, So would he makes sense? 468 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: This is what John Dorsey the Cowboy had to say. 469 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: UH in an interview with The Plain Dealer. I've had 470 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: a chance to be around Dez. I've known Deaz. I 471 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: got a chance when he was down there in Lefkin, Texas. 472 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:00,719 Speaker 1: I actually went down to his work out and got 473 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: a chance to meet him down there. Okay, I know 474 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: what kind of person he is and what makes him 475 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: He's a very talented player. Have we had discussions about 476 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: des Bryan. Yeah, that's natural. I mean, I'm not surprised 477 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: that that the name would come up the minute. You 478 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: don't know when Josh Gordon's gonna come back, but he 479 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 1: also said Dorsey said he absolutely expects Gordon to play 480 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: this season and could be back at any time in 481 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: a couple of days or a couple of weeks. And 482 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: it was also interesting and uh, Lindsay actually played it 483 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: from me before the show. When dorisay he was talking 484 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: with reporters, they kept on hitting at him like, yeah, 485 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: have you been assured by the NFL that he is 486 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: not facing any issues, any suspension anything like that, And 487 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: he dodged the question time after time after time. That 488 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: can still be something that comes into play here and 489 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: we don't know yet, but Dorsey went out of his way. 490 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: It was I mean, it wasn't like kind of a 491 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 1: I think Blanken, you miss it. It was they kept 492 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: on coming after him, and he would dodge it again 493 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: and again. So we'll see if it's not fair to 494 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: to be tired of Lamar Jackson and not be very 495 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: tired of Josh Gordon. Do you know what the result 496 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: of those Dez Bryant discussions were? They didn't sign, We're 497 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: not signing or else It'd be to me that should 498 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: be on a team, and he might make the Browns 499 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: better if you had no Josh Gordon. But I feel 500 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:18,719 Speaker 1: like it's a lot that that room. Landry Gordon, Corey Coleman, 501 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: and Josh Gordon just in des sounds like, I don't know, 502 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: juicy opposite land came obviously, Corey Coleman. Corey Coleman still 503 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: in the mix. I think, why how are you doing? 504 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: How do you bring your family in here? Louke Colton? Look, 505 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: I love for him to be productive. Let's do some 506 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: odds and ends. Has got a lot more to get 507 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: to here, dods and ends. Let's get some muddin ends. 508 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: Get your odin ends right here. I didn't recognize that 509 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: person where she been? Richard Sherman the San Francisco, Fornia 510 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: Niners cornerback has been cleared for the started training camp. 511 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: Greg great news, and it means he gets a big 512 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: roster bonus for being ready for the started training camp. 513 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: Hubba hubba. Jara Jones had this to say about Cowboys 514 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: defensive lineman David Irving not expected to come to training 515 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,959 Speaker 1: camp at all. This is a man that said issues 516 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 1: West and it seems like the issues continued. If you're 517 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: a casual NFL fan, you must assume that all Cowboys 518 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: defensive ends are the same person, and they just take 519 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: turns serving suspensions under differents. Get confusing. They have they 520 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: ever had a lineman healthy and not serving the suspension. 521 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: It has literally never happened. J J. Watt quote crushed 522 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: his conditioning test um mark. That's awesome news. Well the 523 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: photo it You gotta go find the photo attached to 524 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: this announcement if you can. He looks like a non green, 525 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: incredible Hulk type figure. But talk about getting people on 526 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: the field together, We've really never seen Watton Clowney do 527 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: their thing together. And for one full season. I would 528 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: love saying that this time of year, every year, watch 529 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: Watson's not on the pup list, and how come no 530 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: one else crushes the conditioning test. He's like the first person. 531 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: Have you seen him? The Giants supplemental draft pick Sam Beale, 532 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: the defensive back. He's out for the season with a 533 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,719 Speaker 1: shoulder injury. That sucks. They're very thin at that position. 534 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: That's why they took him. It's also when you starting 535 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: Eli Apple, so waste of a draft pick. They wanted 536 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: that depth for this year. Another round lins Earl Thomas 537 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: a no show at Seahawks camp, and the Seahawks meanwhile 538 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: still want a really high price in a trade. So 539 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: this again continues to be going nowhere. There's no end 540 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: in sight here because the Seahawks, according to Ian, do 541 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 1: not want to pay Earl Thomas, after seeing what happened 542 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: when they paid Cam Chancellor last August, that they don't 543 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: want to take that risk. And Earl Thomas pretty much 544 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: is adamant that he's not playing unless he gets the 545 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: one that could go into the regular right. This is 546 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 1: the one of them all where you like, you could 547 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: see him missing two or three weeks and maybe the 548 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: whole year. And finally Mark Hey Mark Antonio Brown showed 549 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: up to camp in a helicopter yeah. Well, I don't 550 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 1: want to sound like I'm like ultra grumpy about all 551 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: these players. But I don't need that. I don't need that. 552 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: Doesn't he show up in a batmobile helicopter type, some 553 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: kind of contraption every year, Mark, isn't it kind of fun? 554 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 1: It's and it's again, we're watching it's a great network. 555 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 1: We're watching it for twelve hours straight a day. And 556 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: that's that's that I've seen at fourteen times. Who are 557 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: not aware? Every year Antonio Bone has arrived at camp 558 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: and some type of luxury automobile of some kind. This year, Oh, 559 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: he's in the Worldly Bird Sessler. It's like he's like, 560 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: how's he gonna How's he gonna top it? Next year? 561 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: This guy's flamboyant. I do not need it, not even 562 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: a particle of it. All right, I had heard from 563 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: the source you weren't happy about it. Okay, good stuff. 564 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: Oh by the way, yea, Cleo Mac not expected to 565 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: be in camp, and Ian has also said this one 566 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: has no end in sight. There appears to be some 567 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: hard feelings and asociations haven't gone well on that, okay, 568 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: So that's another one to keep an eye on looking 569 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: forward to all these conversations, Let's just play football, guys. Hey, 570 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: you're getting paid millions dollars to play a boys game. 571 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: Keep that in mind next time you go to the 572 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: bargaining table. I think let's just play football is a 573 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: good pause. Yeah, thanks, Chip from one or three in Atlanta. 574 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: Our show kind of needs maybe that one guy, like 575 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: the cliche bad sports guy that we could just punish 576 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: when he has these takes. We should be friends someone 577 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: like that and just call him up. Alright, So anyway, 578 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: as we uh said at the top of the show, 579 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: we're now going to um introduce a new segment, Fly 580 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: on the Wall. And as I said, flies, they're the wars. 581 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: It's fly season marks in this segment where the flies. Oh, 582 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: we also we're annoying us? And are we were flies 583 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: with our mental capabilities flying around? Right, It's like Jeff 584 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: gold bloom in the right. No, we have human brains, 585 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. We have our Jeff Goldblin was 586 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: like a monster fly, right, he was, but he still 587 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: couldn't thinking of dated pop culture references. I haven't even 588 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: ever seen it. I just know it exists. That was 589 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: also a remake of like a sixties movie, so it's 590 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: even more dated. Yes, so we are going bloom though 591 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: he stayed relevant ft stats about him he has. I 592 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: think he's even better than ever. I mean he's having 593 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: the gold bluemissans right now burned together m hm, yes, 594 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: former lovers, I believe as well. That's reportedly confirmed. Neither 595 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: a subconnected or they addressing park together one of the others. 596 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: We're both. Uh so No, something funny about when people 597 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: use the word of lover. I believe he took her 598 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: as a lover for a while. Like that was like 599 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: for our younger listeners that that was very routine that 600 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: like people would talk about like lover Like that was like, 601 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,959 Speaker 1: oh yeah his lover Billy. Wasn't there a Saturday night? 602 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: There is a Sunday and life skin about that where 603 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: they call um Alright, so anyway, we are we are 604 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: human flies. We are humans shrunken down to fly size 605 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: and appear into any camp uh any segment, any segment, 606 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: any part of camp, and and dive in mark you 607 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: will be going first. We're essentially spies. But um, yes, 608 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: I I just wrote these up because I think it 609 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: was gonna forget them otherwise. But I would like to 610 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: be a fly on the wall of Oakland's football compound, 611 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: where I'd buzzed between the offices of coach John Gruden 612 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: in general manager Reggie Mackenzie. Capping an offseason that saw 613 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: plenty of grudenesque moves. With Mackenzie shoved into the deep background, 614 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: I'd glean information on where this relationship stands. Did they talk? 615 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: Do they verbally backstab from dawntill dusk? Or do they 616 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: make it work and sometimes go out for ice cream 617 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: and a glass of white wine while discussing their shared 618 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: passion for off Cannon Little House on the Prairie fan fiction? 619 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: Where are we with this relationship? Off? Can like not 620 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: the official storyline? Can I missed some of that? Basically? 621 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: I want to buzz around up to find out because 622 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: I feel like Reggie McKenzie. Yeah, Reggie mackenzie has really 623 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: he did so much to build that team up for 624 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: that one playoff season and got through an early bad 625 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: period to show how good he could do with the job. 626 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: And then I feel like Grooden has coming ultra powerful 627 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: and there's been a lot of weird anti Reggie Mackenzie 628 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: type moves made this offseason, at least to me, I 629 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: see it that way, and it just feels like a 630 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: grood in power move that Where where is Reggie mackenzie 631 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: and this is he happy? I want to find out. 632 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: You're saying Reggie like doing some grumbling at the snack 633 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: bar station. Maybe hey, I don't have a saying he's 634 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: like Howie Rose, a little bit of a Howie Rose. 635 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: Maybe not maybe not that I mean that was that 636 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: was obviously known to everyone and it was embarrassing. This 637 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: has been kind of kept. This issue doesn't seem to 638 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: be out there as much. I don't know Reggie McKenzie, 639 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: but just based on his media appearances, he seems so 640 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: amiable and wanting to get along, and he has this 641 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: history with Gruden back to Green Bay that I suspect, 642 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: even if he's got some thoughts in his heads about 643 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: how things going on, he would never be the type 644 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: that you would the fly would hear anything. He would 645 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: keep it to himself, that he'd be ultra professional, that 646 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: would be doing the best that he could, even if 647 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: he's not really thrilled with the fact that he's just like, 648 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: you know what, I want, I want you to fly 649 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: on over to his private office when he's on the 650 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: phone and one of his his buddies and other in 651 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: the league circles, when he's already kind of on the 652 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: phone trying to get a new job because he's like, 653 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: there's no future for me here. You gotta hang out 654 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: in that complex for a couple of weeks. Is this 655 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: fly eating things the flies do and get the job done. Yeah, 656 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: I mean there's bad things about being a fly. You're 657 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: you like poop and things like that, and you have 658 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: a short lifespan and everyone hates you and you're easily slaughtered. 659 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: But it's pretty cool to be able to do well 660 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: and ira when a lot of generalists are losing your job. 661 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: What better job security than being an actual fly who 662 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: can listen to any conversation Ago, Bams, I'm going to 663 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: Rams job security for like for your day life life security. 664 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to RAMS camp. The most fascinating person in 665 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: the NFL to me right now is Sean McVeigh. And 666 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: if you caught Bryant Gumbel's Real Sports interview with him, say, 667 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: i'ncanny recall bordering on photographic memory of plays called in 668 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: a random game from last year. To me, why he's 669 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: fascinating a lot of these offensive geniuses, These coaching geniuses 670 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 1: have massive outsized egos, and he seems to be a 671 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,720 Speaker 1: preter naturally humble guy who is supported by every former player, 672 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: every current player, everybody's ever coached with him, and he 673 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: see used to have a high e Q emotional intelligence 674 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: to deal with these players. I'm just why is this 675 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: guy perfect? Or like, what is the flaw with this guy? 676 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: Because he seems like he is what you would built 677 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: in a lab to be an NFL coach in two 678 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: thousand eighteen. So your job as a fly, on some level, 679 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: you're looking for dirt. You're looking for some some thing 680 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: that shows you maybe has this guy as perfect as 681 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: he seems. This is a very non judgmental fly who 682 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: was willing to go this guy is he's He's fascinating 683 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: because he is that great. He's not a judgie fly 684 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: at all. He's just like flies don't really have any 685 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: brain capacity to say. By nature, they're not typically very 686 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: judgmental about human behavior. But in this case, you have 687 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: you have seen ostracized Philosopheoper. There you go. Situation um, 688 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: very good? Any other thoughts, keep moving. I'd be curious 689 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: with the interaction. Yeah, between McVeigh and less need and 690 00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: is one of the best. It would be a kind 691 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 1: of a fun to be a fun campus if he 692 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: if they appear to be doing everything right, yes, and 693 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: if he puts together another season that is close to 694 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 1: what he did in his breakthrough year last year, you 695 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 1: might be looking at the new Bill Walsh guy. Yeah, 696 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,839 Speaker 1: like the new name that people write books about one day. 697 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 1: He's got a string together a few more years. But 698 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 1: I would just say we haven't seen him as a 699 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: coach go through any great adversity in terms of something 700 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: really happening to put the Rams in a bind. How 701 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 1: he responds to that, We'll say a lot to um 702 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: as you won't surprise you. I'm obviously gonna gonna buzz 703 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 1: on over to floren Park, New Jersey check in on 704 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,439 Speaker 1: my Jets, And I'm very nervous because, as any Jets 705 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 1: fans should be. They have never this organization has never 706 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: handled a quarterback room very well. They've and whether it's 707 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: drafting quarterbacks, bringing quarterbacks in developing quarterbacks, uh, it's always 708 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: been kind of a mess. One time one quarterback punched 709 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: another quarterback in his jaw and broke it. Although that's 710 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,240 Speaker 1: maybe not the organization's fault, but just it's been always 711 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: kind of messy, and now here we are with a 712 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: number three overall. Pick Sam Donald. He's so he's the DFS, 713 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 1: the designated franchise savior, and they have to figure out 714 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: how are we going to handle our musical chairs in 715 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,879 Speaker 1: the quarterback room. And there's some different things that play 716 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: here because you keep hearing that Sam Donald is a 717 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 1: guy that they are not ruling out as a week 718 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: one starter. Okay, well that's fine to say, but then 719 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,760 Speaker 1: you're also hearing from our own Mike Silver, for instance, yesterday, 720 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 1: that the Jets are quote obsessed, that's the word they use. 721 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 1: Are just such an interesting, weird word to say. With 722 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater and how great he has looked, and how 723 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: how he looks like he's all the way back and 724 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: he's basically back to being the type of prospect that 725 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: he was before the knee injury. Whatever, if you believe 726 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 1: it or not, whatever, but they love him enough where 727 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: you're you're you're either gonna try to develop him or 728 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to trade him, but he's gonna have 729 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: to see time. And then you have Josh McCown, who 730 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,919 Speaker 1: last year. If you guys recall, they did not play 731 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:56,359 Speaker 1: it all in the preseason, and he was essentially a bad, 732 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: bad quarterback until about Week three, which you could easily 733 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,320 Speaker 1: contribute to he had to knock the rustop because he 734 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: didn't play. So what are they gonna do? How are 735 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 1: they going to get all these guys work without messing 736 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: up Donald? Who's the key to all this? I want 737 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: to know what that. I don't know why you get 738 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: obsessed with Teddy Bridgewater after drafting your future and you're 739 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 1: a coaching staff that is under fire, you're a front office, 740 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 1: it's under fire, so you have to put the guy 741 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 1: in there that you really think you can attach your 742 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: future too. If Sam Donald goes out and struggles to 743 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 1: some degree, everyone's gonna expect that to be the way 744 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 1: it is. I think they're basically going to glow over 745 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater verbally and in the press all summer in 746 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 1: an attempt to trade him, But you still have to 747 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 1: showcase him too to then actually turn that into him 748 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: being I think it's Donald, of all the rookies, has 749 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: the best chance to start Week one by far, and 750 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 1: if if unless he really you know, implodes during preseason action, 751 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 1: I think that's the one team that would roll with 752 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 1: with with with him. I think I might put him 753 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 1: last Donald to start Week one, because Josh McCown played 754 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,320 Speaker 1: really well last year and they love him and Bridgewater 755 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: to me, is one of the most interesting figures in 756 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,399 Speaker 1: August to watch because he has a pretty good chance 757 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: to beat out McCown, but he also has a pretty 758 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,240 Speaker 1: good chance to bring a draft pick, a pretty hefty 759 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: draft pick in return if he looks good. I just 760 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 1: don't know if you're this front office and coaching staff 761 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 1: that you can fiddle around with Josh McCown for eight 762 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 1: or nine weeks. Well, they you also have to remember 763 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 1: they might want to fiddle around with Josh McCown, who 764 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: proved last year that he could run the offense. They 765 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,800 Speaker 1: got to save their jobs. They gotta win seven or 766 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,760 Speaker 1: eight games. The Jets pointing this regime with Todd Bowles 767 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 1: and also Mike mccagnet, So I really I still see it. 768 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 1: The most likely way plays out is McCown four weeks 769 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 1: and then Donald takes over in October, and I think 770 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: Teddy does get traded. But it's the platonic ideal from 771 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: a fan perspective, not the Jets fan necessarily but just 772 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: the average NFL fan for a quarterback battle. I mean, 773 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 1: it's got everything. It's got the old trusty guy who's 774 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 1: coming off the best uh season by a Jets quarterback 775 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 1: probably since add Pennington. It's got an interesting trade uh 776 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,800 Speaker 1: you know, package guy who's about as beloved as anyone, 777 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 1: and it's got it's got a young hot up. But 778 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: I can't imagine the Jets are dumb enough not to 779 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 1: just prioritize Sam Donald over everything else. And that's really 780 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: the only thing that they truly care about. And that 781 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 1: is what I believe they're talking. You can't give whatever 782 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 1: the Bridgewater reps if you're given because whatever they think 783 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 1: is best for Sam Donald, that that's what's gonna do. 784 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 1: So if they think getting all the reps for Sam 785 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: Donald's the best thing, then yeah, then but it sounds like, 786 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,320 Speaker 1: and I agree with Dan, like they probably want to 787 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: slow the rule with Sam Donald. He's the youngest quarterback 788 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,360 Speaker 1: into the league in a long time. He doesn't have 789 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 1: a whole lot of college experience, and you've got these 790 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: two veterans, so they probably I would think they've arrived 791 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 1: at the decision we're gonna slow play. I think John 792 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not gonna get many snaps. I 793 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: maybe to do practice. I think McCown's like almost a 794 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,879 Speaker 1: player coach there and they'll have to get him ready 795 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 1: in a week or two before the Sea. This is 796 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 1: before that. Maybe not, they don't. This is not John 797 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 1: Beck and Rex has been behind. I think they like 798 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 1: both their options. And I would put a sandwich on 799 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: it with you, Mark, if you want to do it 800 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 1: right now. That is not the weak one. Well, what's 801 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: up to him. I'll go one on one with Dan 802 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 1: because he's the jest, just just for sporting sake, and 803 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: none of these sandwiches you know, ever get paid out anyways. 804 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 1: I'll go with on Mark side and it'll be it'll 805 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: be a duo. Say well, let's do that. I only 806 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,479 Speaker 1: agree to that. If there are sandwiches that we will, 807 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: we will pay. All right, it's happening. I love it. 808 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 1: It's like the corn will squad back together. Bad news 809 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 1: to the other team, all right, it's not fair. It's 810 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 1: not fair if you two are on the same yet 811 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 1: not at all squad. I'm my fly or I'm a 812 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:45,399 Speaker 1: fly and I'm buzzing. Uh, I'm buzzing down to Spartanburg. 813 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: Isn't that? Before Greg goes on, you have to understand 814 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 1: that this is the New Era training camp. Spotlight what 815 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 1: you're about to hear from Greg Rosenthal. Yes, it is. 816 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 1: That's great. I don't know. I don't know what New 817 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 1: Era is going to think about the heat down there. 818 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,400 Speaker 1: I mean, they might be the hottest training camp. You know, 819 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 1: Spartanburg has some historical significance to this podcast. That is 820 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,320 Speaker 1: the exit I pulled over when I called Greg to 821 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 1: accept this job. I was driving from Cincinnati back to Tibbing, 822 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,360 Speaker 1: stopped at the Spartanburg exit. Tell Greg I was I 823 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 1: was leaving. I don't gus James Dean's accidents. That would 824 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 1: be amazing. I want to listen to the conversations that 825 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 1: Ron Rivera is having, partly with Marty Hernie, maybe with 826 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 1: some trustee assistant coaches, maybe even with his wife on 827 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 1: the phone, when he kind of looks back and and 828 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,839 Speaker 1: sees the organization that he's running right now. Fifty three 829 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 1: weeks ago, Dave Gettlman was fired. Think of everything that 830 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 1: has changed with the pants one of the steadiest in 831 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 1: terms of wins losses, UH teams in the NFC over 832 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 1: the last five six years. Dave Gettlman was fired. Uh 833 00:42:55,080 --> 00:43:00,120 Speaker 1: the owner was embroiled in a sexual assault case in 834 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 1: which the which he had to give up the team. 835 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: This is the same man Jerry Richardson that hired Ron Rivera, 836 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,920 Speaker 1: that that, as I said, you know, founded the team. 837 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 1: Has a statue out front he has lost his job. 838 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 1: There's a brand new owner in place. On top of that, 839 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 1: there's a brand new offensive system in place with North 840 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 1: Turner arriving. Mike Scheula has been there since the day 841 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 1: Cam Newton arrived. It has just been a lot of 842 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 1: change for a guy in Ron Rivera, who who has 843 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 1: had a lot of consistency over the last five or 844 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 1: six years. And I'm just kind of wondering, like what 845 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 1: what is he feeling? What is he thinking about this situation? 846 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 1: Does he feel like he's suddenly on a hot seat 847 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,959 Speaker 1: with with a new boss? What is he saying behind 848 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,840 Speaker 1: closed doors to North Turner about Cam Newton's who has 849 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: had kind of a couple of rocky years. I would 850 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 1: say on the field, not as higher level the last 851 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,360 Speaker 1: two years. There's just it's just a lot going on, 852 00:43:55,560 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: I think with this franchise underneath the Belichick by his 853 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 1: lonesome tier. He feels like the most overlooked guy in 854 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 1: the next tier down for NFL coaches. He's made the 855 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 1: playoffs what five or six years, I believe, uh, And 856 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 1: until he arrived, no one had ever won back to 857 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 1: back and that it was nearly fired at one point, 858 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 1: you know, years ago, survived, that survived, has survived this 859 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,760 Speaker 1: up until now. And he's just been such a steady presence. 860 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,359 Speaker 1: I think that's one of his defining qualities. And yet 861 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 1: this is maybe one has been one of the most 862 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 1: unsteady teams in the league. And they have a quarterback 863 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 1: who I think. I always believe in Cam Newton, but 864 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 1: I think Kim Newton. He he he wants to have 865 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 1: a great year this year, his contracts coming, not that 866 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: they're not going to resign him, but he hasn't played 867 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,399 Speaker 1: as well. I don't think throwing the ball the last 868 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: couple of years as he did before that. And that 869 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 1: was training camp spotlight presented by New Era. One more 870 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 1: time around the Horn, all right, I'd like to be 871 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 1: a fly on the wall in Buffalo, listening to offensive 872 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,760 Speaker 1: coordinator Brian day Ball and quarterbacks Stade David Culley discussed 873 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 1: their plan for the team's signal callers. What must Josh 874 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 1: and do to blow up the concept of a red 875 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 1: shirt season and fly into the skies as the teams 876 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 1: sometime in the season earlier on the later as their 877 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,320 Speaker 1: new starter. Also, I traveled to the team's newly refurbished 878 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 1: cafeteria to see what players are saying about the new 879 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 1: lunchtime menu items. Have you had the pork butt sandwich? 880 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 1: Fullback Patrick DeMarco would ask Flat Ducas. No Ducos would say, 881 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 1: I'm Peskterian DeMarco would counter by saying, we can both 882 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,799 Speaker 1: agree the new sour dough rolls dipped in salt butter 883 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,840 Speaker 1: are delicious, not too dense, very rich in flavor, crisp 884 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 1: on the outside, and just right in the middle. No 885 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 1: Ducas would say, I'm staying away from carbs bro in 886 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,840 Speaker 1: an effort to jump start my large and small intestine 887 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 1: with a more alkaline based diets. This is why you 888 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 1: have to watch the videos justice the b roll of 889 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 1: the delicious sandwiches. That we could focus more on the 890 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 1: quarterback angle. But wait, have you actually flown into the 891 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 1: future and you already witnessed this interaction as a fly 892 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,479 Speaker 1: on the wall? Yes, and well, I'm actually I'm saying 893 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 1: they would say that to each other. That's what I'm 894 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 1: thinking they would say, Marcus, there's a lot of the 895 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 1: breaking this space time continuum. And I mean, I'm a 896 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 1: human that turned into a fly, so a lot of 897 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 1: new territory to begin with. And Patrick DeMarco's defense. Every 898 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 1: time I get a choice, I go sour, though when 899 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 1: it comes to bread. Totally totally agree. It would be 900 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 1: interesting to hear Brian Dable speak as anyone called that happening. 901 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 1: He's kind of he's an under the radar important figure 902 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 1: in the NFL. You know, former Patriots guy, former Alabama 903 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 1: guy who's suddenly has to run an offense where he's 904 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 1: got an uphill battle. Well, he was Eric Man Jeanie's 905 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 1: play caller in in Cleveland. He's a bit of a nomad, 906 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 1: Yes he is. He is his number one, I mean, 907 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,800 Speaker 1: his number one quarterback is it's it's pretty rough. And 908 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 1: then you look at you have a number one, right, 909 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 1: and then you have Kelvin Benjamin's the number one. After that, nothing, 910 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:05,239 Speaker 1: it's it's either z A. Jones or Jeremy Curly. It's 911 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,239 Speaker 1: pretty It's gonna be tough to create an offense. Out 912 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 1: of that team, they lost three of their best offensive lineman. 913 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 1: They're lying if you they're line isn't a major issue 914 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 1: for Alan's might be a little concerned. Chris Westling, this 915 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 1: fly is going to hang out in Colts camp and 916 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,880 Speaker 1: hope I don't get swallowed by the frog. What's your 917 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 1: favorite type of It's well done, Chrissling. And it's obvious 918 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 1: you want to see how Andrew Luck looks. We were 919 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:40,319 Speaker 1: informed Wednesday that basically Ian Rappaport was saying, the ball 920 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 1: is flying out of his hand. Arm strength looks pretty 921 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,839 Speaker 1: much like it's always looked um beyond that to me, though, 922 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,839 Speaker 1: since he entered the league in two thousand twelve, we've 923 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 1: been asking when are the Colts going to get a 924 00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 1: creative play caller, a reliable offensive line, and a consistent 925 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 1: running game. And I think in camp you say this 926 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,840 Speaker 1: might be the most improved offense of line in the league. 927 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:05,240 Speaker 1: They have not only added two impressive rookies, but veteran 928 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 1: depth that they just haven't had since Luck has been there. 929 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,319 Speaker 1: They've got guys like Matt Slawson sit on the bench 930 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,359 Speaker 1: and he might not be, you know, the best center 931 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:13,719 Speaker 1: in the league or best guard in the league. But 932 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 1: that's depth that they they're throwing. They don't have to 933 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,359 Speaker 1: throw a seventh round rookie in there this year if 934 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 1: something goes wrong. Also, Frank right, if you if you 935 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 1: look at Carson Wentz, the most close quarterback in the 936 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 1: league to him, athlete wise, skill set wise is probably 937 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck. And Frank Reich did wonders along with Doug 938 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,840 Speaker 1: Peterson and John d. Filippo. With Carson Wentz, um, I 939 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 1: think he's got that creative play caller now, and you 940 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:40,800 Speaker 1: have a running game where you've got some more interesting 941 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,359 Speaker 1: running backs thing you've had in a while. I don't 942 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 1: like their defense one biting and they have a lot 943 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 1: of work to do there. We have a nude scheme, 944 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:51,799 Speaker 1: a new coordinator there, first time coordinator ever Fusse. Aren't 945 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,520 Speaker 1: they back in the mix in the NFC South? If 946 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 1: Luck is going to play sixteen was excited about I'm 947 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,319 Speaker 1: always excited to watch Andrew Luck. Is that potentially going 948 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,839 Speaker 1: to be your team of a t L nominee because 949 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,360 Speaker 1: I don't think you guys would go along with the 950 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,120 Speaker 1: keep that in the whole story. I keep my heart 951 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 1: open to any team and Andrew and Andrew luck returned 952 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:19,239 Speaker 1: to greatness would be a story I could get behind. Um. 953 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 1: All right, I am going to head on. I might 954 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,799 Speaker 1: be an ox Nord right now. Actually, nice shoot up 955 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,480 Speaker 1: to ox Nord. Okay, I'm going there tomorrow, very nice, 956 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:31,799 Speaker 1: humble brag. Are you gonna be doing that? What are 957 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,920 Speaker 1: you doing up in the ox? Gonna watch some Cowboys practice? Sexy? 958 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:39,400 Speaker 1: I like little network work, little little look at you 959 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:45,719 Speaker 1: all growns up Cowboys coaches. I want to be in 960 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,320 Speaker 1: that Cowboys coaches room. You know. Actually, if you remember 961 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,320 Speaker 1: All or Nothing, if you watched All or Nothing, everything 962 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:54,279 Speaker 1: is done. Jara's there, Steven's there, the brother in laws there, 963 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,920 Speaker 1: the dogs there, and they all get around a big 964 00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,960 Speaker 1: old conference table and they talk, and I want to 965 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,840 Speaker 1: be a fly on the wall when they have the discussion. Hey, guys, 966 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 1: how confident are we that we've set up our quarterback 967 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 1: for success this season? Because Dak Prescott, who was an 968 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,879 Speaker 1: incredible draft value by of course a couple of years 969 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,839 Speaker 1: ago and then was an amazing rookie quarterback for the team, 970 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 1: took a step back last year. Wasn't all his fault. 971 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 1: It was kind of a tough situation. As we know 972 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,439 Speaker 1: with with Zeke Elliott and everything else. Um So, I'm 973 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 1: wondering they they obviously feel must feel okay, I would 974 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,880 Speaker 1: think because they didn't make any big free agent pickups, 975 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 1: they didn't pull the trigger on a big trade. They 976 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 1: cut deaz loose like let Jason Witten retire. I'm sure 977 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,400 Speaker 1: they didn't stand in his way on that. Um So, 978 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 1: when you have a wide receiver group headlined by Alan 979 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,319 Speaker 1: Hearns and Terence Williams and Cole Beasley in a tight 980 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:50,839 Speaker 1: end group led by some guys Jeff Swain, why they 981 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,479 Speaker 1: Blake Jarwin. Blake Jarwin is the guy who's been getting 982 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,560 Speaker 1: all the Dalton Schultz and Rico Gathers still in the 983 00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,880 Speaker 1: mix when you when you factor that in, I'm wondering 984 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,840 Speaker 1: if they're privately like put this kid in a tough spot, 985 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,080 Speaker 1: or will the offensive line and the running game and 986 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,800 Speaker 1: and Dak's natural ability be able to cover up for 987 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:15,560 Speaker 1: deficiencies in the skill positions. I could really see that 988 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 1: team going either way this year, and it would not 989 00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,080 Speaker 1: surprise me at all if they ended up being like 990 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:24,759 Speaker 1: eleven and five with this chain moving rushing attack and 991 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,920 Speaker 1: and Dak Prescott playing pretty well, I have faith in 992 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,839 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. I did too. That would be they would 993 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,080 Speaker 1: be a fun team to listen to. I think the conversations, 994 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,239 Speaker 1: the colloquialisms, they really get a lot. That's one thing 995 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 1: I took away from All or Nothing. I think that 996 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 1: the Jones family they're having their living life. They're having fun. 997 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,560 Speaker 1: They like me All or Nothing to tell you, they're 998 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,560 Speaker 1: like being the Jones. I don't know, no know. I 999 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,799 Speaker 1: don't assume that all like powerful successful people are happy. 1000 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,759 Speaker 1: I don't think they're any happier than anyone else. But 1001 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,759 Speaker 1: I think the Jones are. They're like, they like being 1002 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,320 Speaker 1: the Joneses. They like each other. They have the Jerry 1003 00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:02,520 Speaker 1: Jones it's the job he always wanted, owning the Cowboys, 1004 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,160 Speaker 1: and uh he's been living it up for thirty years 1005 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 1: and now his whole family is in on it. Well. 1006 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,719 Speaker 1: I I at the combine. I missed my flight and 1007 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,800 Speaker 1: on the way back because of some connection things. So 1008 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,880 Speaker 1: they just said stay in Indianapolis. There's no way to 1009 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:15,920 Speaker 1: we'll send you out. The next day I went back 1010 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,280 Speaker 1: into town because I was staying at some bizarre motel 1011 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,239 Speaker 1: with like a cosplay convention or something, and I was 1012 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,680 Speaker 1: going on there, but went back into town, met some 1013 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 1: people from work, and we were at a bar, and 1014 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 1: up rolls the Jerry Jones bus and off Jerry Garrett, everyone, 1015 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,800 Speaker 1: the whole posse, and they were they were running the 1016 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,600 Speaker 1: room and they yes, he enjoys life. Jones and his 1017 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,880 Speaker 1: entire family seemed to enjoy life quite a bit. If 1018 00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,200 Speaker 1: you haven't been lucky enough or just never been in 1019 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:45,440 Speaker 1: the position to be at a major league event, obviously 1020 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,000 Speaker 1: the super Bowl the most notable one, but really any 1021 00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,839 Speaker 1: of them, whether it's combined or draft, whatever, that where 1022 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,719 Speaker 1: the city's held, you will, most likely, if you're in 1023 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:57,439 Speaker 1: the downtown sector, see Jera bus roll up in front 1024 00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,920 Speaker 1: of a steakhouse or a notable bar in the air 1025 00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,719 Speaker 1: and the party is where Jarrod Bus is at no 1026 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,960 Speaker 1: doubt to live in life. All right, last time, last time, 1027 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:10,920 Speaker 1: that bus might be coming up and down the one 1028 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:12,480 Speaker 1: oh one come out. You know, you might see in 1029 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,879 Speaker 1: Hollywood something like that on one of these nights. I'm 1030 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:21,480 Speaker 1: just saying, I'm I'm shrinking into a fly and I'm 1031 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,000 Speaker 1: heading straight to New York. I missed New York in 1032 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,399 Speaker 1: this summer. I'm talking right in the middle of the City. 1033 00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,319 Speaker 1: I'm not going to a team. I'm going to Park 1034 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:33,360 Speaker 1: Avenue and I'm visiting the League office and York. No, 1035 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,120 Speaker 1: I don't know that, but I want to. I want 1036 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:37,879 Speaker 1: to hang out with Al Ribon. I want to hear 1037 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:43,520 Speaker 1: behind closed doors what Al Rivern and the League office 1038 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,920 Speaker 1: is saying about these rules. First, the kickoff rule. I 1039 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,760 Speaker 1: think it's it's almost under report. I think this kickoff 1040 00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:54,400 Speaker 1: rule is gonna profoundly change football and special teams. I 1041 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,359 Speaker 1: know it's only the kickoff, but I think there's gonna, 1042 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,320 Speaker 1: especially this year, be a real wow factor and just 1043 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,439 Speaker 1: a lot of different things that we haven't even thought 1044 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 1: of are gonna come up. And I think they're talking 1045 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,840 Speaker 1: about it in terms of how they're gonna apply the rules, 1046 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,400 Speaker 1: because they're really complicated when you when you look at 1047 00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:14,320 Speaker 1: it on another edge, there's a lot going on. I 1048 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:15,960 Speaker 1: want to hear what they're talking about there. And then 1049 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,239 Speaker 1: also the lowering the helmet rule, which which has been 1050 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,719 Speaker 1: talked about quite a bit. UH there's there's so many 1051 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,880 Speaker 1: different variations that alt in the gang are having to 1052 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,040 Speaker 1: go over and they have to be concerned with how 1053 00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,840 Speaker 1: they are going to UH ref this in its first 1054 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,759 Speaker 1: year and I'd like to hear kind of how they're 1055 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,279 Speaker 1: planning to do that, because not as great as he 1056 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,640 Speaker 1: was when we heard him speak it, I don't think 1057 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,719 Speaker 1: you can really answer the questions until we see how 1058 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:45,239 Speaker 1: it plays out. Remember the Trent Richardson rule, right, no 1059 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:49,799 Speaker 1: one threw a flag on that. Uh, you wonder if 1060 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,239 Speaker 1: if we could be in a similar situation where you 1061 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,400 Speaker 1: just that one doesn't really come up as much as 1062 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 1: you would think it would. I think it's gonna be 1063 00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,640 Speaker 1: a big I think it's going to be a big difference. 1064 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,440 Speaker 1: Richard Sherman's critic sisum of the new rule today reminded 1065 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:06,040 Speaker 1: me of Riveran's performance, in which he basically said, guys, guys, guys, 1066 00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,560 Speaker 1: I'm not debating you. I'm telling you what the new 1067 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,920 Speaker 1: rule is. This isn't a debate. You're gonna have to 1068 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:15,160 Speaker 1: fall in line. He was similarly impressive at the Talent 1069 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,840 Speaker 1: Summit last year. And then I think we and so 1070 00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,840 Speaker 1: many football fans were driven insane by some of the 1071 00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,160 Speaker 1: NFL's rules. So it's like, this is peak river Ran 1072 00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,879 Speaker 1: season where he's kind of infallible, and then the season starts, 1073 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 1: You're like, who is involved with the rules? Get rid 1074 00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:35,319 Speaker 1: of this guy? All right, that's it. That's it. Good, 1075 00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:39,960 Speaker 1: seg good, close to the seg good, overall segu We 1076 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:44,759 Speaker 1: will be back on uh Friday, how about that. We'll 1077 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,319 Speaker 1: be back on Friday with our third show of the week. 1078 00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,880 Speaker 1: A reminder again that this was our video show. If 1079 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,480 Speaker 1: you're listening to the audio show right now, why don't 1080 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:56,879 Speaker 1: you head over starting Thursday at noon eastern NFL dot 1081 00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,920 Speaker 1: com slash a t N Live and you could check out, 1082 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,200 Speaker 1: uh that segment we just talked about and you can 1083 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:09,359 Speaker 1: see the videos that accompanied marks Um mess Hall reading. Yes, 1084 00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:13,240 Speaker 1: please rush on over for that. And have you nominated 1085 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,280 Speaker 1: the Around the NFL podcast for the listener Podcast Awards 1086 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,600 Speaker 1: Yet it's free, it's easy to do. Just head to 1087 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:22,360 Speaker 1: Podcast Awards dot com and nominate Around the NFL in 1088 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:26,799 Speaker 1: the sports category. Uh. And just a show of might 1089 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,279 Speaker 1: to show up. It's like, um, I'm watching the Ken 1090 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:33,880 Speaker 1: Burns Vietnam documentary gripping sad stuff. Uh and not the 1091 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,600 Speaker 1: United States Military's Finest Hour, but you know they would 1092 00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,840 Speaker 1: show their might, especially the Air Force and the air strikes. 1093 00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 1: The might show the might of the listenership by voting 1094 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,960 Speaker 1: and winning this thing for another George bushes them a 1095 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,040 Speaker 1: little shocking off, please little shock it all. Let's get 1096 00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:54,279 Speaker 1: on that. I don't know if yeah, we want, you know, 1097 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:59,160 Speaker 1: the Vietnam quagmire to the associated with the symbol of 1098 00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,080 Speaker 1: what we want our I try to make it clear 1099 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,759 Speaker 1: it was more of the military's might. But yes about 1100 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:09,239 Speaker 1: nuclear luch announce your presence with authority. Yes, we did 1101 00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,920 Speaker 1: it so yes, thank you to everybody for listening. You 1102 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,440 Speaker 1: guys are the best. We'll be back until then. This 1103 00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:18,160 Speaker 1: is Dan Hansas signing up four A quiet storm, the Mailman, 1104 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 1: the Old Boss, and Lindsay fault behind their glass. Stay healthy, Lindsay, 1105 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:27,000 Speaker 1: stay alive. That for the affairs till Friday.