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Speaker 7: It is Thursday, July twenty fourth, twenty twenty five, Season

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Speaker 7: twenty one, episode number sixteen. Welcome to the latest edition

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Speaker 7: Welcome to the show. We've got forty five minutes with

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Speaker 7: you guys. Talk a little Cowboys football.

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Speaker 5: We're into it.

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Speaker 7: Pads have not come on yet, but Cowboys have had

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Speaker 7: several practices. We're gonna start today's show the way that

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Speaker 7: we're gonna start pretty much every show. While we're out

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Speaker 7: here with some observations, We're gonna go around the table

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Speaker 7: and I want you guys to do two things for me.

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Speaker 7: I want you to give me an observation of a

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Speaker 7: specific player, something you've seen over the last two practices,

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Speaker 7: and also an observation of a moment, just giving people

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Speaker 7: an idea of what camp is like, what practice is like,

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Speaker 7: what things are drawing your attention as you've watched these

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Speaker 7: first two practices. Let's start with you batch.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so let's just do moment first.

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Speaker 6: And it's gonna sound like low hanging fruit, but I

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Speaker 6: promise it's gonna answer a lot of questions. Right There

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Speaker 6: were some you know, cowboy fans, people that were just

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Speaker 6: curious if you know, Schottenheimer is such a player's coach,

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Speaker 6: if he's so cool, like, will that get in the

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Speaker 6: way of discipline? Will that get in the way of

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Speaker 6: waving his finger if he needs to? Well, there was

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Speaker 6: a fight over there over there on the fence, and

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Speaker 6: you know we're not trying to get hurt here, you

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Speaker 6: know what I mean. That's the one rule of camp, Like,

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Speaker 6: get through camp and get out of it healthy and

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Speaker 6: Shoddy said.

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Speaker 5: Turn the music off. NBA Young Boy was on. It

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Speaker 6: We called a huddle to the middle of the field and

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Speaker 6: he cussed everybody out twice. He cuts me out, but

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Speaker 6: helmets on, got cussed out. He was like, hey, let's

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Speaker 6: stay healthy, Dan, what we're here to do? If I

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Speaker 6: see it again, you're going home? Do you understand? Do

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Speaker 6: you understand? He said it twice. I was like, man,

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Speaker 6: so there is a side of Shoddy that can keep

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Speaker 6: So that there were just people that were just asking

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Speaker 6: what happens. If X y Z happens, Shoddy will raise

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Speaker 6: his voice, get people back in line, and NBA Young

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Speaker 6: Boy will cut right back on it, will get right

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Speaker 5: I thought that was important.

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Speaker 7: That was a daddy moment right there. Hey, that was

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Speaker 7: a real daddy moment.

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Speaker 5: Shot.

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Speaker 6: He's a first time head coach, and most time head

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Speaker 6: coaches are young if it's for the first time, but

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Speaker 6: he's like an older young dude right Like he's been

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Speaker 7: Been he's fifty something, so he's fifty something, so he's grown. Man,

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Speaker 7: he has dad later like that you're about to say

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Speaker 5: A shot.

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Speaker 6: He does have that dad diaphram where he raised his

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Speaker 5: So it's cool, good preaks.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, there's moments when you got it, when the kids

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Speaker 6: Plus on top of that, like you know, just the

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Speaker 5: So I thought that was important.

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Speaker 8: I think it's a little annoying for me because I

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Speaker 9: You're like, you know, no, no, but it's hard to

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Speaker 9: what is happening in front of you and in front

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Speaker 9: of your eyes, and seeing the new dynamic and energy

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Speaker 8: He's doing everything right again. We can only wait and

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Speaker 8: see what's gonna happen week one. That's what's gonna be

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Speaker 8: the reality of it. But right now he's doing everything

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Speaker 8: and here with the team. Before I continue, real quick,

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Speaker 8: I wanted to give a quick shout out to all

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Speaker 8: It's surprising every time I meet someone and I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 8: people do this. Okay, no, no, no, this show was

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Speaker 8: developed before you were here. Okay no, no no, But

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Speaker 8: thank you so much to all the fans that come

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Speaker 8: and support and watch the show, listen to the show

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Speaker 8: and come out here as well. Something that stood out

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Speaker 8: But when you see that, you can only think, hey,

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Speaker 10: The moment for me happened in day one, and it

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Speaker 10: happened when Deron Bland ran down George Pickens and knocked

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Speaker 3: For two days now, we've seen turnovers.

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Speaker 10: We've seen we saw We've seen interceptions to the point

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Speaker 10: where Dak Prescott went over to Elam and asked, what

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Speaker 10: where were you? How did I miss you? What wore

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Speaker 10: you think? What did I do to make you track

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 10: We've seen fumbles. We saw yesterday too with Donovan Wilson.

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Speaker 10: Williams catches the ball in the flat, hammers the ball

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Speaker 3: The ground and runs. Brian Schottenhemmer talked about this.

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Speaker 10: He is he is adamant that this team is going

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Speaker 10: comes to creating turnovers.

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Speaker 3: That for me has been very, very evident.

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Speaker 10: This is something that they probably brought from the Star

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Speaker 10: and Frisco out here with the type of defense they

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Speaker 10: they're doing a great job of it through the first

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Speaker 7: And I'll tell you this Brian, I also look at

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Speaker 7: because from the first day of camp, man, they're coming

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Speaker 10: University of Texas Man yourself, Jayden Blue is probably saying,

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Speaker 10: thank God, it's somebody else fumbling the damn ball. He

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Speaker 3: But you never know the schemaker had the same thing happened.

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Speaker 10: Yes, Scoomaker's running up the field and I'm taking a

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Speaker 7: For the offense, now they have to keep running. You

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Speaker 7: have to keep thinking about ball security, like all those

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Speaker 7: back to what you were saying Amber, like, I don't

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Speaker 7: I think from that standpoint, that's a good foundation. Now

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Speaker 7: we'll see if he can coach. We're starting to see

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Speaker 7: some of those things as that's like, oh yeah, he

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Speaker 7: You guys, tell me a player and I'm gonna go

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Speaker 8: You know, cave on to Turf and you.

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Speaker 7: Can't use the quarterback Milton.

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Speaker 8: No, I gave you a moment before the moment Joe

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Speaker 6: Uh you know context, you know, I have been watch

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Speaker 6: I mean, so, Tyler, Guiden is six seven, and you know,

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Speaker 6: the first thing that they teach you in football school

440
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Speaker 6: is low man wins. So if you're six seven, you

441
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Speaker 6: gotta get low. But you can't bend at the waist

442
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Speaker 6: because they'll just pull you down. You know, you don't

443
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Speaker 6: have balance. You have to try to find this balance

444
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Speaker 6: of keep your feet wide enough, keep your knees bent,

445
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Speaker 6: and keep your chest up. But you're still six seven

446
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Speaker 6: trying to get low. So Guidan's had to find that balance.

447
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Speaker 6: So when I'm watching him pass have nothing to do

448
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Speaker 6: with this, I'm seeing Guiden bend his knees. More could

449
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Speaker 6: be yog, it could be whatever, but he's bending his

450
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Speaker 6: knees more, hands are firing more.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes he wouldn't even fire his hands.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes he'll just hug people, and you don't want people

453
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Speaker 6: getting in your chests like that. But him punching, striking, moving,

454
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Speaker 6: bending knees. Good job, TG, keep doing it, don't stop.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, think about out there, Yeah, things about it. For

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Speaker 7: people out there who are trying to kind of visualize this,

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Speaker 7: it's kind of like if you've ever done a squad.

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Speaker 7: I don't know how many of you lift weights, but

459
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Speaker 7: doing a squad you kind of want to keep your

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Speaker 7: back straight and keep your chest up. You don't want

461
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Speaker 7: to lean over and hunch over because then it's bad

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Speaker 7: for your back. It's the same thing with the offensive line.

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Speaker 7: They're kind of have to get in this set where

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Speaker 7: they're upright and then work from there use their hands.

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Speaker 8: You know, like like this, you know you want to

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Speaker 8: get in front of I.

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Speaker 7: Will not sit up there. I will not get up

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Speaker 7: there and do that. But y'all see my point. The

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Speaker 7: point is that's that's what you really want to see.

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Speaker 7: And I think sometimes he leans a little bits, and

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Speaker 7: especially as a bigger guy, he can't do that. Uh,

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Speaker 7: And so I'm happy to hear you say I haven't

473
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Speaker 7: spent a lot of time watching him. I'm happy to

474
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Speaker 7: see that he's working on that technique part because that's

475
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Speaker 7: really the big key for him.

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Speaker 6: Also, two guys, and you know, he wasn't a naturally

477
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Speaker 6: powerful guy. So if you're not a naturally powerful guy,

478
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Speaker 6: you have to build confidence in technique in those things,

479
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Speaker 6: and he just didn't have technique. For example, Cooper bebe

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Speaker 6: the same rookie class, he didn't have those same problems

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Speaker 6: because he's strong as hell. Tyler Smith strong as hell, Bookers,

482
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Speaker 6: strong as hell, of the old cowboys, you know, uh uh, Zach, Tyren, Travis.

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Speaker 6: Their strong as hell game is the first of our

484
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Speaker 6: first round picks that wasn't just naturally out the box

485
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Speaker 6: strong as hell. So he's got to get big, get strong,

486
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Speaker 6: work on his technique. He's had the longest road to

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Speaker 6: go out of all these guys, So just me watching

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Speaker 6: them a little bigger, that's a good thing. Working on

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Speaker 6: his technique. We just got to see if that strong

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Speaker 6: at hell have you know, caught.

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Speaker 5: Up to him.

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Speaker 7: Let me ask you another question on that point. One

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Speaker 7: of the things you've always heard about offensive lineman is

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Speaker 7: they gotta have a good punch, right they gotta be

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Speaker 7: able to kind of get guys off of them twits.

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Speaker 7: I did see. I did see that. In the offseason.

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Speaker 7: There was a little video of him out kind of

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Speaker 7: shadow boxing, sure, and I know some some players have

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Speaker 7: taken to boxing in order to kind of develop that

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Speaker 7: a little bit. How important is that? Talk about how

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Speaker 7: important that is particularly for his game with his size,

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Speaker 7: with all the things he's working on technically, how important

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Speaker 7: is that part of his game? And where was that

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Speaker 7: last year relative to to where he needs to be

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Speaker 7: long term.

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Speaker 6: At the most novice levels of offensive line, they just

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Speaker 6: kind of teach you to shoot both hands and kind

508
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Speaker 6: of go, you know, go for the middle of the chest.

509
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Speaker 6: We're at the advanced levels of ball, so your hands

510
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Speaker 6: can't be tied together now. So it's really chess matching

511
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Speaker 6: out there. If you watch Tyrone Smith, great example of it.

512
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Speaker 6: He is switching his looks up every single time. If

513
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Speaker 6: you're trying to get past me, and I'm shooting every

514
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Speaker 6: time like this. Even Ambar Garcia can grab my wrists,

515
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Speaker 6: she can slap my hands down, she can move around,

516
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Speaker 6: she can get under me. But if I'm working my hands,

517
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Speaker 6: you know, could be this hand could be this hand. Hey,

518
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Speaker 6: low hand here, high hand here, You're adding tools.

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Speaker 5: To your belt.

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Speaker 6: It may look like we're all doing this, I say, well,

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Speaker 6: because I'm a X offense linean, it may look like

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Speaker 6: we're all doing the same thing, but I'm really just

523
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Speaker 6: setting you up. Sometimes I can leave my hand out

524
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Speaker 6: to make you think you're gonna attack it, bring it

525
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Speaker 6: back and replace. So making your hands work, you know,

526
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Speaker 6: just separately of each other, is just adding more tools

527
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Speaker 6: to your belt. And that's incredibly important for Tyler because

528
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Speaker 6: he's guiding because.

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Speaker 5: He's not strong as hell.

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Speaker 6: So as he's building power and strengthen things, you can

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Speaker 6: win just by simply I have confidence in my solo

532
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Speaker 6: right hand punching you in the right place to then

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Speaker 6: gather it with my left. Or if if I know

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Speaker 6: that Sam Williams has this lean this lean on me

535
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Speaker 6: moved that he likes to do, I can confidently go,

536
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Speaker 6: I'm gonna grab that hand now and then gather with

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Speaker 6: this hand. So working your hands independently, that's something that

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Speaker 6: they try to tease these. If you watch after practice

539
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Speaker 6: brock Hoffman's kind of punching bags doing this, that's what

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Speaker 6: boxing is. You don't box like this you box and

541
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Speaker 6: you set up and you throw hands independently.

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Speaker 5: That's the same thing as offensive.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the think about too. The biggest fear, the biggest fear.

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Speaker 10: And I'll make this real quick, the biggest fear that

545
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Speaker 10: Tyler guydon hasn't when he gets when he's not strong,

546
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Speaker 10: as Fox is talking about, you get over extending. You

547
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Speaker 10: try and use your head to make up for the

548
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Speaker 10: lack of power in your upper body. You lead with

549
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Speaker 10: your head and then all of a sudden you become

550
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Speaker 10: over the top of your feet. That's his biggest fear

551
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Speaker 10: that he is not strong enough to stop a edge

552
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Speaker 10: charge rush. And so we talk about guys like Tyron

553
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Speaker 10: Smith and people like that. It's the punch and all

554
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Speaker 10: of a sudden when that rusher stops. So anytime you

555
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,199
Speaker 10: can make a rusher start, stop and start again, you

556
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Speaker 10: got an advantage ball out. We saw yesterday with quick game.

557
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,719
Speaker 10: You know they'll throw the quick screen on you and stuff.

558
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Speaker 10: So that's the thing that that Gian is to have

559
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Speaker 10: to work on the most is can he be Can

560
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Speaker 10: he be patient with his hands? You don't want to

561
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Speaker 10: throw your hands because sometimes you get guys that will

562
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Speaker 10: that will play and they won't give.

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Speaker 3: You any hitting service, They'll they'll turn.

564
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Speaker 10: And they'll try and get around you that way and

565
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Speaker 10: then grab your shoulder and pull. That's his biggest fear

566
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Speaker 10: he's got to think about. Okay, how do I place

567
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Speaker 10: my hands with my lack of power right now and

568
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Speaker 10: keep this guy in front of me. There's been times

569
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Speaker 10: where he mentioned last year we saw hands outside the

570
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Speaker 10: body kind of bear hugging and holding on.

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Speaker 3: That's when you get the hold of his whole flag. Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the main thing I was gonna say, The main

573
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Speaker 8: thing is getting that technique down. Now, can I give

574
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Speaker 8: a little snake big of the documentary? Okay, Well, we're

575
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Speaker 8: working on a documentary about the old Line Travis.

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Speaker 7: Not just the line, the line of the two thousands, the.

577
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Speaker 8: Line mister Travis, Frederick, Tyron Smith, and Zach Martin. So

578
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Speaker 8: interviewing those guys, I mean, it's gonna be great. So

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Speaker 8: I hope you guys are ready to watch that. Yes,

580
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Speaker 8: And in this process I've learned a lot about them,

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Speaker 8: talking about their techniques, what made them so great and

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Speaker 8: some of the things that you do. Yes, you have

583
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Speaker 8: to get down that technique, the handwork, the foot placement

584
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Speaker 8: and all of that but then the mental part comes after,

585
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Speaker 8: where you can only learn in games when to really

586
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Speaker 8: adapt to that player, you have to be able to

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Speaker 8: not just know the techniques just let your body react

588
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Speaker 8: to what is happening, but the mental thing of like

589
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Speaker 8: knowing your opponent and like, Okay, this guy made this move.

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Speaker 8: I gotta do this to throw off and make up

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Speaker 8: for that lack of power per se. And that's why

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Speaker 8: you like to practice like the one we're gonna have

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Speaker 8: with the Rams against the Rams. Moments like that is

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Speaker 8: great for guys like these and he's gonna they're gonna

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Speaker 8: be able to take that opportunity to hopefully in the

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Speaker 8: preseason learn that where it becomes just like natural. Now

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Speaker 8: you're just reacting and adopting to whoever you got in

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Speaker 8: front of you.

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Speaker 7: That's good stuff. We uh, you just mentioned we're doing

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Speaker 7: a Deep Blue As everybody knows, we do Deep Blue

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Speaker 7: every summer. Deep our Deep Blue documentaries. We have three

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Speaker 7: of them that we're gonna be rolling out later this summer.

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Speaker 7: That is one of them. We'll give you a more

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Speaker 7: of a sneak break over the next couple of days

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Speaker 7: or weeks of the other two that will be coming

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Speaker 7: out but yeah, we'll be starting up that. I think

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Speaker 7: not not next weekend, the week after that. I think

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Speaker 7: it's gonna be like that Thursday when we're gonna roll out.

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Speaker 7: You're the second we're gonna rolling those out. We got

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Speaker 7: some go this year. I think you guys are gonna

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Speaker 7: Thank you, gets out, Welcome back. Final segment of the break, California.

671
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Speaker 7: We're still working there, We're working, we're working back from

672
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Speaker 7: a break and uh and we're almost there. We're almost there.

673
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 7: We're almost on the point where we will do this well,

674
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 7: I guess heading into the season. All right, here's what

675
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 7: I want to talk about. I want to talk about

676
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 7: Trayvon Diggs. I am he and Micah. It was interesting

677
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 7: they joined press conference. They came out and did a

678
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 7: joint press conference literally uh the first day, and they

679
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 7: addressed a lot of things. And I actually I appreciated

680
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 7: it because I think sometimes players can kind of go

681
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 7: into a shell and I think this is just my

682
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 7: own business way I look at it. I think sometimes

683
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 7: players don't quite take advantage of the media in the

684
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 7: way they should. I think organizations are really good of it,

685
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 7: good with it. They understand how to kind of work

686
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 7: with the media to be able to get the messages

687
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 7: out they want to get out. I don't think players

688
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 7: always do. And I thought it was well done by

689
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 7: them to be like, all right, let's go out there

690
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 7: together and let's just talk and we'll be able to

691
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Speaker 7: get out a lot of messages, and they did that,

692
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 7: But the one thing I wanted to kind of zero

693
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 7: in on. There were two things I think that Traybon

694
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 7: said that addressed two things that we had talked about specifically,

695
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 7: one of them being his decision to train in Florida

696
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 7: as opposed to being here, and the other one being leadership,

697
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 7: just the general idea of leadership. Let's start first with

698
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 7: the decision to train away from here and not be

699
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 7: here for all the offseason. Here was this quote, he says,

700
00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 7: they do a great job here. I just felt like

701
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 7: it was in my best interest to go somewhere to

702
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 7: get the full undivided attention. I needed massages and the

703
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 7: whole nine yards to better and further my career, to

704
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 7: make sure I'm good ahead of schedule and that I

705
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 7: can perform well. Like when I tore my ACL, I

706
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 7: came back a whole two months earlier because of the

707
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 7: work I put in during the off season off the field.

708
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 7: My work is gonna show what I put into, It

709
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 7: is gonna show on the field. You guys think that's fair,

710
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 7: because I think the way that we talked about it

711
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 7: was more like the fact that he wasn't here. Yeah,

712
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 7: But the flip side of that is, if he had

713
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 7: some experience where he was able to work back from

714
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 7: an injury and he felt like he was better when

715
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 7: he came back at a better timeframe, why wouldn't he

716
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 7: want to do the same thing in order to get

717
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 7: him and again that helps the team him getting back

718
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 7: and being healthy and faster. What are your thoughts?

719
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think the thing that about that whole when

720
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 10: you look at that, Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, the front

721
00:31:55,240 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 10: office have a huge, huge goodwill or thought about their

722
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 10: their their training staff and Britt Brown. That's that's I

723
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 10: think this is where this really all kind of the

724
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 10: stems from. I think that they're like, listen, you know,

725
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 10: there's a reason why we have these guys. There's a

726
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 10: reason why we have a Britt Brown. You know, we

727
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 10: want you working now. These players have the right to

728
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 10: do whatever they want to do. And you know he

729
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 10: gave up, you know, half a million dollars to go

730
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 10: and do something heath that he felt was right for

731
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 10: him and good for him, if that's what the case.

732
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 10: But does that put them behind in knowing? Does does

733
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 10: Britt and them now know his situation is it's okay great. Hey,

734
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 10: you did all these things. You look great, but I

735
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 10: need you to be able to do this football move.

736
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 10: I need you to be able to do this. And

737
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 10: so you know, is it is it put them behind

738
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 10: a little bit, we'll see. But if the player feels

739
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 10: good about it, good for him. I just know the

740
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 10: front office has the utmost respect for Britt Brown. And

741
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 10: in the National Football League, there's a lot of teams

742
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 10: that have a lot of respect for Britt Brown out

743
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 10: here in jimre And these trainers, you know, I know

744
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 10: everybody talks about every year they have the grades that

745
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 10: come out, you know, in the athletic report about I

746
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 10: think that's more about the grades come because the Cowboys,

747
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 10: you know, maybe they don't have a large number of

748
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 10: trainers on their staff. That's I think more of a

749
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 10: question than it is about the ability of these trainers

750
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 10: to get the players back.

751
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 7: On the field and real quick. I will just say

752
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 7: he did make a point of saying at the beginning

753
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 7: of that they do a great job yere. So I

754
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 7: don't think it was in any way. I thought Trayvon

755
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 7: taking a shot at the training staff here. I think

756
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 7: he respects what they do as well.

757
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 3: I thought that this.

758
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 10: I thought that this was going to be a problem,

759
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,959
Speaker 10: and I personally went up and ask for it Brown myself.

760
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 3: I said, hey, he goes, listen, he goes. It's great,

761
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 3: and he wants to do that. He goes. I love

762
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 3: to work with these guys.

763
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,239
Speaker 10: You know that you've seen me, You've known me for

764
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 10: fifteen years now, Brian, he goes, he goes, but he goes.

765
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 10: Diggs and I are fine. Don't don't get that twisted.

766
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 10: Diggs and I are fine.

767
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 3: You know.

768
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Speaker 10: I thought there was a little bit of I hate you,

769
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 10: you hate me kind of thing. That's really not the

770
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 10: case at all. So they're gonna have to put some

771
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 10: feelings side here, you know. I mean as far as

772
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 10: maybe the you know, maybe before that. You know, Britt

773
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 10: likes to work people very very very hard. You can

774
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 10: ask the quarterback, you can ask over shown, you can

775
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 10: ask all these guys that have gone through these programs.

776
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 3: Britt is a guy that really pushes you.

777
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 10: We see it every day on the practice fields there,

778
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 10: either here or at the Star. He wants to get

779
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 10: you back, but he has your best interest in mind

780
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 10: as well. But I was happy to hear he's like, listen,

781
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 10: I don't have a problem with Dix.

782
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 3: I hope he doesn't have a problem with me either.

783
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 5: Will said Brian.

784
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 6: Is not too much that I can add to that,

785
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 6: but I just you know, this is the new way.

786
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 6: Like if players aren't one hundred percent comfortable with something

787
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 6: and you have the means to go do it, then

788
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 6: go do it. We probably won't see this out of Well,

789
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 6: I take that back, because these college players are like

790
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 6: millionaires willionaires now coming into the league, so they have

791
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 6: their own guys and maybe like, hey, look, I've had

792
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 6: this one trainer since I was at high school where

793
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 6: I was making a million dollars. So this may just

794
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 6: be the new way that the league is going, and

795
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 6: maybe the Joneses have to adjust, like, hey, this is

796
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 6: an old days where we in charge and everything has

797
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,959
Speaker 6: to be done our way. There are some superstar caliber guys,

798
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 6: you know. Lamb is another kind of guy. Dak typically

799
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 6: does things you know, this way, But if Dak had

800
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 6: another way of doing it, we would have to understand

801
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 6: because that's just the new way of these superstar guys

802
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 6: and just how they do So it just is what

803
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 6: it is.

804
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 8: Well to me, the way I see it is, it's

805
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 8: always good to get both sides of the story, because

806
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 8: initially your brain automatically starts creating this narrative in your

807
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 8: head of like, well, this guy's not committed to the team,

808
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 8: what is he doing, Well, he's supposed to be a leader,

809
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 8: blah blah blah blah blah. And the fact that he

810
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 8: spoke and said that exact quote was very refreshing and

811
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,919
Speaker 8: eye opening to me because two things can be true

812
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 8: at once, like, yes, you have a great staff here.

813
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 8: That doesn't great work Ray Brown, he does a phenomenal job,

814
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 8: but not everything needs to fit in one box. It

815
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 8: doesn't mean like you have so many different bodies, different

816
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 8: personalities that maybe your program might not necessarily be what

817
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 8: this specific person wants or needs at that moment. And

818
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 8: the players are free to get the help outside help

819
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 8: that they need during the off season. And if he

820
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 8: feels that his body, that's what he needed. And just

821
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 8: like Micah Parson said, his body is what it is

822
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 8: making him money, Like that's his body. He needs to

823
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 8: protect that. He needs to be able to get it

824
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 8: in shape the best way that he can. Otherwise they're

825
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 8: gonna cut him, like you're gonna see him out of here,

826
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 8: out of the team. So I appreciated that. And again

827
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 8: not to say that they have a conflict I don't

828
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 8: know between him and Britt Brown.

829
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 3: But didn't seem to think so. Yeah, but it's a

830
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 3: hard guy, listen, he is. He is a he's a

831
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 3: hard guy to work with.

832
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 10: I mean, I I've known him for for a long time,

833
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 10: fifteen some odd years.

834
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 7: But the results are the results.

835
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 5: But the results was.

836
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 8: A coach, let's say it. But maybe I worked better

837
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 8: with Chris as a coach and training me right now,

838
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 8: there's all different kinds of person.

839
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the only thing.

840
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 10: I think the only thing that that that the Cowboys

841
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 10: the front office that Jerry Jones is looking at it.

842
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 10: It's like, Okay, I paid you and then we went

843
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 10: through this whole rehab thing last year, and then I

844
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 10: had to call you out about your rehab and now

845
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 10: we have another injury and now you're completely gone away

846
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 10: from this. I think that's the disconnect right there. I

847
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 10: think it's really the owner general manager having the issue.

848
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 10: Everybody else is kind of left there to pick up

849
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 10: the pieces of like, Okay, we've got to work with that.

850
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 10: I saw him work with Britt yesterday, so he's gonna

851
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 10: do everything he can't, hopefully to get back on this

852
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 10: field more sooner than later.

853
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 3: They need him to play. They absolutely need him to play.

854
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 7: The other quote that I thought was interesting was actually

855
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 7: regarding leadership, and he says personally, I'm not a vocal leader.

856
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 7: I'm not gonna be screaming and yelling at guys. How

857
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 7: I'm gonna lead is by what I do on the field,

858
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 7: how I perform, practice hard, and work hard. That's how

859
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 7: I lead in my way. I'm going to continue to

860
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 7: lead in my way. I'm not going to change who

861
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 7: I am, or change how I am, or start talking

862
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 7: and being a vocal guy. That's just not me. That's

863
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 7: not who I am. But I lead in different ways.

864
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 7: I feel like the things I do on the field

865
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 7: and in practice show enough. And what it pointed out

866
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 7: to me was I think there is this I'm starting

867
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 7: to wonder, like what is Jerry's definition of leadership? Because

868
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 7: I agree with what he says. I think there are

869
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 7: lots of different ways you can lead, And I think

870
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 7: you know you don't have to be the raw ride

871
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 7: guy in order to lead and lead well. The challenge

872
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 7: for me is if there's an expectator, if what Jerry

873
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 7: is looking for in leadership is a consistent presence, because

874
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 7: with a consistent presence means the young guy who gets

875
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 7: an injury doesn't say, Hey, I'm gonna go train in Maine.

876
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 7: He says, Hey, I'm gonna train in Dallas, or and

877
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 7: here's my big thing. Or I'm gonna talk to the

878
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 7: front office and talk to my coach and say, hey, coach,

879
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 7: I feel really good about this program I took in

880
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 7: Miami that got me to where I needed to be.

881
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 7: Tell me when you need me to be here, and

882
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 7: I'm gonna be here, and then at the same time

883
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 7: I'm going to be I'm gonna spend the rest of

884
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 7: the time in Miami in order to make sure you're

885
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 7: doing a little bit of both. And maybe in that

886
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 7: way you don't get fined. Maybe you were here instead

887
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 7: of the eighty percent of the time, Maybe you're here

888
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 7: seventy percent of time or sixty five percent of the time.

889
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 7: But they're cool with that, and they don't end up

890
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 7: finding you because there was a conversation I was at

891
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 7: and maybe he had that conversation. I don't know. I'm

892
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 7: just saying I look at it and I say, I

893
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 7: think you gotta really define leadership. I don't think anybody

894
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 7: is asking him necessarily to be the rob rob guy.

895
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 7: I wonder if it's more just they're expecting you to

896
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 7: be present, and that's where you got to have the

897
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 7: conversation if you're not going to be present.

898
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 6: I know, you know, Diggs was saying hey on the

899
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 6: field and at practice that's where I lead at with

900
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 6: Jerry's saying okay, but there's rumors that you're not working hard,

901
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 6: and I'm up here telling you like, hey, man, you know,

902
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 6: you know Diggs may not be working hard like I

903
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 6: think the Cowboys when they think leadership, they want that

904
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 6: you know what you know when you draft Booker right

905
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 6: and you go, man, we have a thousand stories about Booker,

906
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 6: how he whooped the bank robber and walked the old

907
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 6: lady across the street, and or these other players that

908
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 6: didn't have anywhere to.

909
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 5: Stay for things if they stayed over at his house.

910
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 6: That that's not necessarily raw rod guy, but that might

911
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 6: still be the way you move this public image, this

912
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 6: cowboy brand leadership that they might be looking for. And

913
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 6: Diggs is basically like, hey man, you know I'm not

914
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 6: roll model to none, but I can go out there

915
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 6: and play and you can see how I play, or

916
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 6: I may go out there and practice you can see

917
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 6: how I work. Out of practice. That's where my leadership stops.

918
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 6: So that's a good They may just be on different

919
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 6: pages of what they mean by leadership. And I don't

920
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 6: think Diggs wants to be the loud what Tank Lawrence

921
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 6: used to be, the type guy, and that's okay, I'm

922
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 6: gonna get in front of the media and say, Hey,

923
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 6: we're gonna do X y Z to the Saints. I

924
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 6: think Diggs is just gonna keep whispering to the media

925
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 6: and he's gonna have his friends out there, and I

926
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 6: think that's just what it's gonna be.

927
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,280
Speaker 10: You know, real quick. I know we're gonna up against

928
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 10: it that I'm gonna say this. I kind of feel

929
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 10: like that the Micah Parsons thing would have been done

930
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 10: to I think the leadership questions about him if this,

931
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 10: if it was two years ago, if Michaeh Parsons would

932
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 10: have shown, like two years ago that I'm this leader,

933
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 10: I'm the buying guy. I'm on you now. All of

934
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 10: a sudden, it's it's like, well, it's my turn to

935
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 10: be the leader now. You know, Michael Parsons could have

936
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 10: been the leader two years ago. He very well could

937
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 10: have been that. And I think that's kind of where,

938
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 10: you know, when Jerry starts to talk about leadership when

939
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 10: it comes to Parsons and Digs, I think it's about

940
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 10: exactly what you're saying. It's about being around every single day.

941
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 10: And that's the thing I think that kind of got

942
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 10: Michael Parsons and maybe in a little bit of a

943
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 10: bind right now our contract.

944
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 7: I will say that if that is true then and

945
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 7: tell I tell people this all the time. Me and

946
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 7: my wife have this conversation, I talk to my kids

947
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 7: about it. I think you always have to allow people

948
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 7: room to grow.

949
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 3: I told you.

950
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 7: So, let's assume that that's accurate. Now, let's assume that

951
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 7: two years ago he wasn't representing the level of leadership

952
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 7: that they wanted. If that's true, then I think in

953
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 7: the same way I think the Jones is and everybody

954
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 7: else has to give him that room to be able

955
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 7: to grow into that and for him to see, you

956
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 7: know what, that's what it takes. Okay, bet I can

957
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 7: do that and let him then grow into that and

958
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 7: be that right and not judging by what he was

959
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 7: two years ago, judging by what he's doing right now,

960
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 7: because I will say this this offseason, I've seen a

961
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 7: level of commitment and leadership from him, and sometimes you

962
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 7: don't see from guys when they're in contact disputes. He's here,

963
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 7: he's available. He may not be out there practicing, but

964
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 7: he's been around and I think that's I think that's

965
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 7: well see.

966
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 10: But in their eyes though, it's kind of like, though

967
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 10: we needed you to be a leader the whole time.

968
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 3: That's don't. Don't.

969
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 10: Don't all of a sudden a contract years start saying

970
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 10: all the right things and doing all the right things.

971
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 3: You know.

972
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 10: That's Sam Williams is learning that right now. There's some

973
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 10: players at the crossroads of getting a contract extensions and

974
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 10: everything you hear about Sam Williams is boy's great. He's

975
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 10: doing this, He's doing this shot, he step thre at

976
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 10: the podium, Tony. He hadn't missed a day. Yeah, you know,

977
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 10: and maybe a time ago there wasn't a Sam Williams

978
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 10: being there every day and being committed.

979
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 3: Those contracts. New contracts will do some strange things to you.

980
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 6: But he's never get land and guys like Big Tyler

981
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 6: won't have a problem getting deals because they've been this

982
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 6: way for four or five years.

983
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 10: Jerry Steven Will McClay coaching staff will look at this

984
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 10: as like, I don't have to worry about these guys

985
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 10: showing up and being here every single day and being

986
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 10: a camel And I hate to say that that way,

987
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 10: but that's how the old school front offices think, you know,

988
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 10: And maybe maybe s Brian Schottenheimer will help the Joneses

989
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 10: understand it. Hey, we've got to let these guys have

990
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 10: some of the mottitude, let them grow. And right now

991
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 10: it's like, man, you know, Stephen Jones will say that

992
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 10: Dak Prescott's there every single day, that.

993
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 7: Every single day, that has been the mature guy since

994
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 7: the moment he walked in.

995
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 10: The Joneses love the guy that's at the facility every

996
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 10: single well.

997
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 8: Also, I think, and this is just my interpretation of

998
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 8: the whole situation because we're not present in those conversations,

999
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 8: but I think that there's a disconnect and it comes

1000
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 8: from communication. You might not be a vocal leader like

1001
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 8: out there on the field, but if you are behind

1002
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 8: doors going to your coach, going to whoever's in charge,

1003
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 8: or the communicator communicate say hey, just like you said, Derek,

1004
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 8: I'm going to do this and that, and I think

1005
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 8: that is most often than not well received. And you

1006
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 8: would approve of you doing that. And there is a

1007
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 8: work there because I don't think I wouldn't expect Jerry

1008
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 8: Jones or anybody on that side, on the football side,

1009
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 8: to be asking anyone to change their personality. It's be

1010
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 8: who you are, but also be present in a way

1011
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 8: or and by being present, it includes just communicating and

1012
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 8: having that open communication. And also remind me this is

1013
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 8: a team sport. It's not just a you solo thing. Hey,

1014
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go out there and do my thing. No,

1015
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 8: it's a team effort and you have to be able

1016
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 8: to be accountable, be there and build those relationships with

1017
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 8: the rest of the guys.

1018
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 7: All right, we appreciate you, guys. J hoonness. We will

1019
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Speaker 7: be back tomorrow for another I'm sorry, We'll be back

1020
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Speaker 7: on Monday for another episode. Makes you tune in till

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Speaker 7: then right back. You will not oh yeah, I won't

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Speaker 7: be here, but Amber will be here. She'll be hosting,

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Speaker 7: Brian Bradis, Amber Garcia watch nobody on Derek You and

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