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Speaker 3: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi,
Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
Speaker 3: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
Speaker 3: Each episode will discuss the reasons we now know that
Speaker 3: our loved ones have survived physical death and so will we.
Speaker 3: Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. You know how many
Speaker 3: people say they had dreams of their loved ones and
Speaker 3: they seemed so real, they were filled with love. Wouldn't
Speaker 3: it be great if we could create our own dreams,
Speaker 3: meet our loved ones on demand. I had an Aha
Speaker 3: moment this past week and I actually think we may
Speaker 3: be able to do this. On my other podcast, which
Speaker 3: is called We Don't Die Radio, which is all interviews
Speaker 3: interviews with people about why they believe in the afterlife,
Speaker 3: I talked with a scientist, doctor Garrett Yant, from the
Speaker 3: Institute of Noetic Sciences. Our conversation was about consciousness, surviving death,
Speaker 3: consciousness being able to leave our body, as far as
Speaker 3: out of body experiences, astral projection, near death experiences, remote viewing.
Speaker 3: He's also the author of the book Why Vibes Matter,
Speaker 3: Understand Your Energy and How to Use it wisely. And
Speaker 3: one of the things I knew about him was that
Speaker 3: he studied lucid dreaming and did a test with the
Speaker 3: Institute of Noetic Sciences on how people could be trained
Speaker 3: in lucid dreaming to be able to heal PTSD. And
Speaker 3: I was fascinated, and it just seemed to me, what
Speaker 3: if we could use lucid dreaming to connect with our
Speaker 3: loved ones. I can't find any information out there about
Speaker 3: somebody who's studying this and practicing it, But why not,
Speaker 3: so I want to play for you a few minutes
Speaker 3: of doctor Yant talking about lucid dreaming and giving some
Speaker 3: advice about how to get into it, and then we'll
Speaker 3: talk more about maybe what we can do to purposely
Speaker 3: communicate with our own loved ones who have passed, and
Speaker 3: just so we're on the same page about lucid dreaming.
Speaker 3: Lucid dreams are the ones that are so clear and
Speaker 3: so real. And the thing is is you know your dreaming.
Speaker 3: So if there's a monster in front of you and
Speaker 3: you know your dreaming, you can either cast a magic
Speaker 3: wand and make them disappear, or perhaps put yourself on
Speaker 3: a beach vacation somewhere sipping up margarita because you know
Speaker 3: you're dreaming and you can control your dreams. So here's
Speaker 3: doctor Yant and myself.
Speaker 4: For me, lucid dreaming is where it's at because of
Speaker 4: the ability to basically access to your subconscious mind and
Speaker 4: kind of grow through that. The study we did was
Speaker 4: involving folks with PTSD and their goal was to go
Speaker 4: in a dream and transform their trauma in the dream.
Speaker 4: This was done with Charlie Morley. He's a fantastic lucidreamy
Speaker 4: teacher out of London. You can find him online Charliemorley
Speaker 4: dot com. You know, we've seen results. He was doing
Speaker 4: workshops with people with PTSD for a long time and
Speaker 4: had great results, got a Winston Churchill you know, Fellowship
Speaker 4: award for it all. And so we said, oh, let's
Speaker 4: see if you can put a little science, you know,
Speaker 4: combine it with the science, and see if we can
Speaker 4: get some data out of this rather than just people's testimonials.
Speaker 4: So we did the pilot study two years ago. It
Speaker 4: turned out incredibly well, folks nightmares going away, PTSD symptoms
Speaker 4: going down, lasting a whole month. We checked again. So
Speaker 4: that was just published in the Journal of Traumatology. So
Speaker 4: I'm very happy published in that journal because it's a
Speaker 4: mainstream APA journal. Hopefully we'll get you know, this idea
Speaker 4: out there and people research it more and understand more
Speaker 4: about the therapeutic potential of these lucid dreams. And so
Speaker 4: we actually just have now repeated that with a larger group,
Speaker 4: with a randomized control group, you know, really formalized. So
Speaker 4: stay tuned a couple of months, we should know how
Speaker 4: that turns out.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm excited by this. I was searching you out
Speaker 3: on YouTube today and seeing some of the videos, and
Speaker 3: there's so many people that have suffered a loss of
Speaker 3: a loved one, and I know what it's like to
Speaker 3: go through deep grief. And although it's different than PTSD,
Speaker 3: I couldn't help, but think could lucid dreaming impact somehow
Speaker 3: and lessen grief? And we all I feel like the
Speaker 3: only way to get to the other side of grief
Speaker 3: is straight through it. There's dearly things we can do
Speaker 3: to help aviate the pain, to help us believe that
Speaker 3: our loved ones are still around. So I went to
Speaker 3: the ions dot org website today and I booked the
Speaker 3: class in Lucid Dreaming the Forces class because I said,
Speaker 3: that's something I know about. I think I've had a
Speaker 3: few accidental lucid dreaming experiences and they're so clear, and
Speaker 3: I could go where I wanted to go and create
Speaker 3: to create. But you know what, if I wanted to
Speaker 3: create my dad and give him a big hug and say, Dad,
Speaker 3: I know you're still with me, you know, I think
Speaker 3: it could really help with the grieving process.
Speaker 4: I agree on Hundre present. I don't have any experience
Speaker 4: with that, and we haven't studied it, but from what
Speaker 4: I've you know, learned from Charlie Morley as he's teaching
Speaker 4: these folks, is you know one thing he says that
Speaker 4: his Lindy just from Tibetan Buddhism. He says that the
Speaker 4: Buddhists say that in the lucid dreams, So what they
Speaker 4: really recommend meditating in that state and they say that
Speaker 4: you have seven times the mind power in the lucid dreams,
Speaker 4: so your meditations will be seven times is powerful. And
Speaker 4: just like you're saying, the process of grieving could be
Speaker 4: you know, working through that and transforming that trauma could
Speaker 4: be seven times better in there. But it also fits
Speaker 4: with a lot of the work that these folks with
Speaker 4: PTSD did because many of them did have PTSD from
Speaker 4: traumas and losses. And so they could you know, ask
Speaker 4: to as you saw, you can do whatever you want
Speaker 4: in the dream, but they could get asked to reconcile
Speaker 4: or ask to convey and share love, you know, their
Speaker 4: love with somebody and had an experience. So I think
Speaker 4: that could be very powerful. I agree.
Speaker 3: Now I know it's a process lucid dreaming getting into that,
Speaker 3: but could you just give like a like a little sample.
Speaker 3: Is it something we go to bed at night and
Speaker 3: we wake up, set the alarm for three am, and
Speaker 3: then take what's what's the basic way in.
Speaker 4: There's Yeah, there's so many, so many ways, and I
Speaker 4: can I can for sure. You tell you you know
Speaker 4: some of the some of the fun quick ones and
Speaker 4: all this I learned from Charlie Morley, by the way.
Speaker 4: But the first thing he says to everybody is the
Speaker 4: very first step is increasing your dream or recall. The
Speaker 4: more that you remember your dreams, you're the better off
Speaker 4: you are. And it's kind of the idea of you
Speaker 4: just think about, Okay, this is this waking state of consciousness.
Speaker 4: It's one kind of state, and the dream state is
Speaker 4: over here. Building bridges across those states, kind of increasing
Speaker 4: those tithes. You just throw rope over there. Well, it
Speaker 4: works in the opposite direction. So the more that your
Speaker 4: waking state remembers your dream state, the more chances that
Speaker 4: in your dream state you can remember your waking state.
Speaker 4: And so that's the first step. And so you just say,
Speaker 4: get a dream log, put a little pad of paper
Speaker 4: and pencil beside your bed. People like different ways somewhat
Speaker 4: people like to put it in their phones or just
Speaker 4: a voice recorder. I like to roll over it and
Speaker 4: kind of don't even need to open my eyes, just
Speaker 4: scribble down something on the page and just a few words,
Speaker 4: because that's all it takes to like lock in that experience.
Speaker 4: And the importantly for this, you start doing it and
Speaker 4: even you wake up, by the time you roll over,
Speaker 4: you didn't remember any dreams, or it's already around that corner.
Speaker 4: As you know, dreams can just be like, oh I
Speaker 4: remember it, but it's right right there. Even on those
Speaker 4: days still right down could not recall my dream this
Speaker 4: morning or it just went around the corner. Because it
Speaker 4: builds that habit of your conscious mind. It is linking
Speaker 4: to your subconscious mind. So even if you don't remember
Speaker 4: the dream, just right down wasn't able to remember my
Speaker 4: dream because that's still reinforcing the habit. So that's number one.
Speaker 4: Number two, I would say my favorite and what allowed
Speaker 4: me to get looser the first time actually living this
Speaker 4: from Colors Castaneda his book Journey to Excellent and Charlie's
Speaker 4: confirmed this. So you give yourself kind of a self
Speaker 4: hypnotic suggestion as you're falling asleep and the one that
Speaker 4: I learned from Castaneda was I will look at my
Speaker 4: hand in my dream tonight and say that over and
Speaker 4: over at least three times. I just give yourself that
Speaker 4: certainty that I will look at my hand and my
Speaker 4: dream tonight, and then if you're lucky in your dream,
Speaker 4: you'll be you know, doing something and you'll see your
Speaker 4: hand and you'll be, oh, I see my hand. I
Speaker 4: see my hand. And I'm the one that said I'm
Speaker 4: going to see my hand and my dream, and that
Speaker 4: can light up the lucidity. So that worked for me.
Speaker 4: Now Robert Wagner, who's going to teach the course that
Speaker 4: you just signed up for, who's also an awesome teacher,
Speaker 4: he adds a little bit to that technique for his self.
Speaker 4: Hypnotic suggestion is I will look at my hand tonight
Speaker 4: in my dream, and I will realize that I'm dreaming
Speaker 4: like he just like finishes the whole thought kind of
Speaker 4: the A goes to be and then be he goes
Speaker 4: to see. So there's I'd say, there's the first two
Speaker 4: things to start with. How's that sound enough?
Speaker 3: But it sounds easy, but like anything, it takes practice.
Speaker 3: It takes commitment, right and journaling would be good.
Speaker 4: Is good. I will throw in one ware that's really
Speaker 4: fun too. It's called reality testing, which is during the day,
Speaker 4: like ten times just test your reality. Be like, am
Speaker 4: I dreaming right now? And Charlie would like pull your
Speaker 4: finger and if your finger goes or I don't like that,
Speaker 4: oh I'm dreaming, And then you're dreaming. But of course
Speaker 4: almost all the time you do it, oh I'm not dreaming.
Speaker 4: But again that's a building a habit throughout the day
Speaker 4: in your waking state of just questioning your reality. Then
Speaker 4: that habit will carry into your dream state, may be dreaming,
Speaker 4: and then you can question it and then find the answers. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you are dreaming.
Speaker 3: Yes, I signed up for a LUCID dreaming course at
Speaker 3: ions dot org. You don't have to sign up for
Speaker 3: a course. I don't think. There's lots of YouTube videos
Speaker 3: and people talking about lucid dreams and the different ways
Speaker 3: we could enter that state. But to enter that state,
Speaker 3: I know that I've experienced lucid dreams that are so
Speaker 3: clear and so real, and I can direct what happens.
Speaker 3: Could you imagine being in a lucid dream going into
Speaker 3: a park, sitting on a park bench and inviting your
Speaker 3: loved one to sit with you. Now, is it your
Speaker 3: loved one? Is it your subconscious I think it would
Speaker 3: provide a wonderful opportunity for our loved ones from the
Speaker 3: other side to work with us on this. I know
Speaker 3: one thing for sure. If you have lots of experiences,
Speaker 3: loving experiences being reunited with your loved one, that's going
Speaker 3: to make a huge difference on grief. If you want
Speaker 3: to hear that whole interview, by the way, you can
Speaker 3: easily go to We Dootdie dot com, click on the
Speaker 3: radio show page and listen to that there, or of
Speaker 3: course it's on YouTube. Just go to We Don't Die
Speaker 3: Radio and you'll find it. So in the next segment,
Speaker 3: I want to stick with Lucid Dreaming and then for
Speaker 3: the second half you ask the question, Sandra, can you
Speaker 3: talk about a Kashak Records and the afterlife? So that
Speaker 3: will be in the second half. We'll be right back.
Speaker 3: You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio
Speaker 3: and Coast to Coast am Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back
Speaker 3: to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain and in
Speaker 3: this segment, I want you to just play around with
Speaker 3: the idea of joining me on an experiment to see
Speaker 3: if we can successfully connect with our loved ones through
Speaker 3: lucid dreaming. Nobody's done this before. I don't think or
Speaker 3: I can't find it, but just how real lucid dreaming
Speaker 3: is so This first clip is from Charlie Morley, who
Speaker 3: doctor Yan spoke about.
Speaker 5: Just last week, scientists from four different laboratories proved for
Speaker 5: the first time ever that it was possible to engage
Speaker 5: live two way communication between the waking state and the
Speaker 5: lucid dream while the dreamer was still sound asleep. A
Speaker 5: lucid dream is a dream in which you're actively aware
Speaker 5: of the fact you're dreaming as the dream is happening.
Speaker 5: So you're sound asleep dreaming away, but in the dream
Speaker 5: you go, oh wow, this is all a dream. Then
Speaker 5: you can choose to direct or even control the dream
Speaker 5: at will, guiding your conscious mind through the debts of
Speaker 5: your unconscious. Lucid dreaming can be used to work with addictions, phobias, depression,
Speaker 5: confidence issues, treating PTSD, or just having fun by flying
Speaker 5: around an internal representation of your own psychology.
Speaker 3: Next, here's some words about lucid dreaming from Tim post.
Speaker 6: When I was seven years old, I had this recurring nightmare.
Speaker 6: I dreamed about this huge IM found the space, and
Speaker 6: I was locked up in a tiny iron cage by
Speaker 6: the old and awful and scary looking snow white witch. Now,
Speaker 6: in that dream, I felt truly terrified. So as soon
Speaker 6: as I woke up from the nightmare in the middle
Speaker 6: of the night, I ran to my mom. I was crying.
Speaker 6: I woke her up and I told her about my nightmare,
Speaker 6: and she would always reassure me of this simple fact
Speaker 6: that it was just a dream. And so, feeling a
Speaker 6: bit more reassured and safe, I returned asleep. But at
Speaker 6: one particular night had the exact same nightmare. So suddenly
Speaker 6: I found myself again in that iron cage, holding onto
Speaker 6: the iron bars and looking to the old witch while
Speaker 6: remembering what my mother said to me just a few
Speaker 6: hours ago. Now, interestingly, that realization did not wake me up,
Speaker 6: so I knew that I was dreaming while still being
Speaker 6: in the dream, and I can still vividly recall how
Speaker 6: I looked around in the dream and had a sense
Speaker 6: of my own dream body, which felt incredibly real, while
Speaker 6: I knew that my real physical body was actually lying
Speaker 6: in bed asleep in some other place called waking life.
Speaker 6: It was a stunning, very profound experience, and at the
Speaker 6: same time, it didn't feel scared by the old wage
Speaker 6: because I knew she was just part of my dreaming mind.
Speaker 6: So I really felt empowered and free. Now, as a
Speaker 6: seven year old kid, I had no idea that these
Speaker 6: kinds of dreams in which you know that you are
Speaker 6: dreaming are scientifically referred to as lucid dreams, and that
Speaker 6: these lucid dreams seem to almost exclusively occur in sleep
Speaker 6: stage that we call rem sleep rapid eye movement sleep,
Speaker 6: and that's the stage in which we experience our most vivid,
Speaker 6: most immersive dreams. And so these are not your typical
Speaker 6: one dimensional daydreamlike experiences in which you're just visualizing something
Speaker 6: and you still have a sense of your own physical
Speaker 6: body and you're just imagining stuff. Now, in these remsleep dreams,
Speaker 6: as would be true for our lucidreams as well, we
Speaker 6: are provided with this fully immersive, three dimensional, multisensory hallucinatory experience.
Speaker 6: So it feels like almost being absorbed into your imagination.
Speaker 6: You own this dream body that you can use and
Speaker 6: move around with not just to look at your dream surroundings,
Speaker 6: but for example, touch the dream ground. It's texture, it's hardness.
Speaker 6: That's how real our dreams are. Each and every night
Speaker 6: in remsleep is incredible. You could listen to dream music
Speaker 6: or someone's voice in a dream. You could even smell
Speaker 6: or taste dream food. Wow. Now, at the same time,
Speaker 6: fellucidream provides for limitless flexibility, as our dreaming mind is
Speaker 6: condition continuously listening to and giving shape to our thoughts
Speaker 6: and intentions while we are dreaming. And so once you
Speaker 6: turn lucid in a dream, you could consciously and reflectively
Speaker 6: refocus your thoughts and intentions in order to reshape the
Speaker 6: entire dream and dream about anything that you can imagine
Speaker 6: while you are dreaming. And so you could allow an
Speaker 6: entire dream city to appear, or your favorite sports car,
Speaker 6: or you could give yourself any kind of superhero power
Speaker 6: that you can imagine, like flying or walking through walls.
Speaker 6: Or you can just consciously decide to explore the dream
Speaker 6: while knowing that it is a dream, and just go
Speaker 6: to the left or go to the right and just
Speaker 6: leave the dream as it is.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 6: Lastly, that the lucid dream is a learnable skill. So
Speaker 6: about twenty percent of the general population of US has
Speaker 6: at least one spontaneous lucid dream each month. But now
Speaker 6: through scientific study, there are various cognitive techniques that anyone
Speaker 6: can learn to apply in order to have these lucid
Speaker 6: dreams deliberately. And so now today there are thousands and
Speaker 6: thousands of lucid dreamers all over the world who are
Speaker 6: practicing lucid dreaming to have these extraordinary dream experiences that
Speaker 6: are impossible or very unlikely according to our ordinary waking life,
Speaker 6: social and physical standards. So for example, they're exciting flying
Speaker 6: dream in which you are a superhero and fly above
Speaker 6: the clouds, or this exhilarating adventure in which they are
Speaker 6: the main character in their own blockbuster dream movie, or
Speaker 6: romantic dream. And of course there are many other lucid
Speaker 6: dreams that you can think of, because anything is possible
Speaker 6: in a lucidream, right, kind of incredible. Now, if you
Speaker 6: take a closer look at these three lucid dream features
Speaker 6: and you would kind of add them up, you might
Speaker 6: come to see that the lucid dream provides for this
Speaker 6: fully immersive virtual simulator. Right now, that functional description is
Speaker 6: not far from what scientists believe to be the function
Speaker 6: of our ordinary rem sleep dreams, although more precisely the
Speaker 6: function of threat simulation and its related memory consolidation. So,
Speaker 6: for example, in the old days, when we would encounter
Speaker 6: this dangerous bear in waking life, we would be frightened
Speaker 6: and hopefully be able to survive. Then that following night,
Speaker 6: our dreaming mind would pick up on those waking life
Speaker 6: threats simulate those in our dreams in order for our
Speaker 6: dreaming mind to reinforce on the neural circuits that are
Speaker 6: involved with the schemas and the expectations and the scripts
Speaker 6: that we need to effectively survive the next waking life
Speaker 6: threat the following day, when we would encounter a slightly
Speaker 6: different bear in a slightly different circumstance. Now, in modern days,
Speaker 6: most people don't dream about dangerous bare encounters anymore. We
Speaker 6: would dream about an angry boss encounter, or a family
Speaker 6: member or a friend or whatever that we need to
Speaker 6: cope with in order to socially survive, and through that
Speaker 6: same process, our dreaming mind picks up on those social
Speaker 6: threats and simulate those in our dreams in order to
Speaker 6: reinforce those related schemas in scripts and so on. Now
Speaker 6: imagine turning lucid in those dreams and to consciously and
Speaker 6: reflectively enhance that function of psychological development and use the
Speaker 6: flexibility of the lucid dream to experiment with improved behavior
Speaker 6: to learn from in the lucidream, so that then the
Speaker 6: next day, when you would wake up, you could implement
Speaker 6: those learning experiences and improve your waking life circumstances from
Speaker 6: what you have learned and experimented within your lucidream to
Speaker 6: improve your psychological well being. Now, the emerging science of
Speaker 6: lucid dreaming has now generated evidence to suggest just that
Speaker 6: that lucid dreaming can be used as an incredibly valuable
Speaker 6: tool to enhance psychological development and is now invested into
Speaker 6: various research areas like nightmare treatment, mental rehearsal, creative problem solving,
Speaker 6: and so as a lucid dream practitioner myself, as a
Speaker 6: researcher and a trainer, I teach people from all over
Speaker 6: the world how to have and apply these lucid dreams
Speaker 6: and really believe that the application of lucid dreaming is
Speaker 6: an idea that is worth spreading today. Now, scientists were
Speaker 6: initially quite skeptical about this phenomenon of lucid dreams. That, well,
Speaker 6: this is impossible. By definition, dreams lack this reflective awareness, right,
Speaker 6: that therefore there are dreams, so this can just not
Speaker 6: this cannot be possible. Others said, well, perhaps the lucid
Speaker 6: dream is just an ordinary dream in which we merely
Speaker 6: dream about being lucid, which is something different.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 6: Others said, well, I still say today, Actually, well, ordinary
Speaker 6: ramsleep just cannot allow for lucidity. So dream must be
Speaker 6: some kind of a hybrid state of consciousness in which
Speaker 6: one part of the brain is awake while the other
Speaker 6: part is dreaming, or some brief awakening from sleep, in
Speaker 6: which our mind still lingers a bit and rendsleep, and
Speaker 6: through that you could know that we are dreaming.
Speaker 3: You can find the rest of that talk on YouTube.
Speaker 3: Just type in tim post. If anything's possible, we can
Speaker 3: use it to connect with our loved ones. I really
Speaker 3: believe we can. So. Here is Robert Wagener.
Speaker 9: I taught myself how the lucid dream in nineteen seventy five,
Speaker 9: so about five or six years before the scientific evidence
Speaker 9: came out and the technique I used. I was reading
Speaker 9: a book by Carlos Costaneda, and the Shamanic teacher Don
Speaker 9: Juan said he could find his hands in the dream
Speaker 9: state and realize he was dreaming. But there really wasn't
Speaker 9: a technique, and so I just invented my own. And
Speaker 9: this is what I did each night before i'd go
Speaker 9: to sleep, I just look at the palm of my
Speaker 9: hands while mentally telling myself in my mind, over and over, tonight,
Speaker 9: my dreams, I'll see my hands and realize I'm dreaming. Tonight,
Speaker 9: my dreams. I'll see my hands and realize I'm dreaming.
Speaker 9: And I would just say that over and over, because
Speaker 9: what I was doing was using the side of my
Speaker 9: hands as kind of a stimulus to make me realize, oh,
Speaker 9: this is a dream. Anyway, I'd do it for five
Speaker 9: minutes fall asleep. On the third night of doing this practice,
Speaker 9: I was walking through my high school hallway and all
Speaker 9: of a sudden, just like they're spring loaded, my hands
Speaker 9: popped right in front of my face, and I thought, oh, crap,
Speaker 9: this is my hands. This is a dream. And it
Speaker 9: was so incredible. I had the most incredible, lucid dream.
Speaker 9: And then after that, when I might be climbing a ladder,
Speaker 9: i'd see my hands and realize oh, this is a dream.
Speaker 9: Or I might be opening a door and see my
Speaker 9: hands and I'd realize, oh, this is a dream. But
Speaker 9: I made the side of my hands the stimulus that
Speaker 9: would kickstart my mind and make me think, oh, this
Speaker 9: is a dream. So that's how I started out. If
Speaker 9: you don't care for that, you can do something just
Speaker 9: this simple. And this is what the old timers used
Speaker 9: to do, back before we got to all these new techniques.
Speaker 9: They would just use the power of suggestion. So before
Speaker 9: they go to sleep, they just tell themselves tonight, in
Speaker 9: my dreams, I'll be more critically aware. And when I
Speaker 9: experienced something strange, I'll realize this must be a dream.
Speaker 9: So tonight my dreams, I'll be more critically aware. When
Speaker 9: I experienced something strange, I'll realize this is a dream.
Speaker 9: Because that's what we lack in most of our dreams.
Speaker 9: You know, we'll be driving a car, then we're on
Speaker 9: a motorcycle, then we're on a bike, then we're on
Speaker 9: a skateboard, and we just kind of accept whatever goes along.
Speaker 9: We lose kind of all sense of critical awareness. And
Speaker 9: so when you tell yourself before sleep, hey, tonight, I'm
Speaker 9: going to be more critically aware, and when I experienced
Speaker 9: something strange, I'm going to realize this has to be
Speaker 9: a dream. So back in the day, you know, back
Speaker 9: in the nineteen eighties when the lucid dreaming became pretty hot,
Speaker 9: most of the people became lucidly aware just by using
Speaker 9: the power of suggestion.
Speaker 3: So do you want to investigate this with me? Try
Speaker 3: lucid dreaming and invite in our loved ones. I think
Speaker 3: it would be a fantastic experiment. Remember, if you can
Speaker 3: dream it, you can do it. After the break, we're
Speaker 3: going to get back into the afterlife and talk about
Speaker 3: the Kashak Records. You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife
Speaker 3: on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.
Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
Speaker 3: and in this segment, I'd like to talk about the
Speaker 3: Akashak Records. In simple terms, what the Akashak Records are
Speaker 3: is there is a place you can access with your
Speaker 3: mind that has all bits of knowledge everything that's ever
Speaker 3: happened and that will ever happen. Where do the Akashyak
Speaker 3: records come from? Back in the late nineteenth century there
Speaker 3: was a huge theosophical movement going on. A woman by
Speaker 3: the name of Helena Lavatsky claimed that Tibetan monks said
Speaker 3: that all records could be found in something called the
Speaker 3: akasha or the akasa meaning in Sanskrit astral light. So
Speaker 3: she coined the word, and throughout the past one hundred
Speaker 3: and fifty plus years people built upon that. In fact,
Speaker 3: in Biblical scriptures it is said that a record of
Speaker 3: every life is kept in heaven. Our current day use
Speaker 3: of the akashak record probably comes from mystic Edgar Casey,
Speaker 3: who studied it wrote about it, claimed that there is
Speaker 3: a storehouse of information in a non physical plane of
Speaker 3: existence which maintains a record of every soul's past, present,
Speaker 3: and future. And he was one of the best psychic
Speaker 3: readers of all time. I'd like you to hear some
Speaker 3: words now from our resident in the afterlife, Eric, who
Speaker 3: works through the trance medium of Scott Milligan, when he
Speaker 3: was asked on one of our fridays about the Akashic records.
Speaker 7: When you get a reading from a medium, it's generally
Speaker 7: given about a memory. When we return to spirit, do
Speaker 7: we regain the full memory of everything that's happened in
Speaker 7: our lifetime. For example, when I was a young boy,
Speaker 7: I actually burnt my hands. It's stuck to the oven door.
Speaker 7: I was told about this, but I do not remember it.
Speaker 7: So when I come back to spirit, will I be
Speaker 7: able to have access to that memory? And also is
Speaker 7: that associated with the akash At records maintaining we're told
Speaker 7: contain everything that's ever gone? Are they cashup records attached
Speaker 7: to our memory in spirits?
Speaker 8: Well, my friend, may I say this to you. Your
Speaker 8: world has named some wonderful things that may have been misinterpretated.
Speaker 8: You speak of the Acashic records. We speak of the
Speaker 8: wholes of learning. Where memory is of light, and therefore
Speaker 8: if you wish to step into the light, you will
Speaker 8: exhort the memory not only of past events, but attain
Speaker 8: knowledge that may further the development of who you are now.
Speaker 8: When one speaks of trauma or traumatic memory, for instance,
Speaker 8: that you speak of that your hand was severely injured,
Speaker 8: and therefore it is a traumatic memory that your mind
Speaker 8: has then exhorbed and is hidden from you as it
Speaker 8: serves no purpose. Bring it back to the consciousness of
Speaker 8: who you are when you come to our side of life. Yes,
Speaker 8: you do have clarity, and others of my world may
Speaker 8: remind you of happy memories like one does in your world.
Speaker 8: When you meet someone who you haven't seen for many days,
Speaker 8: you may reminisce of times where you gaggled like goosseits
Speaker 8: and felt the pain of laughter. We must also consider
Speaker 8: those who have certain elements that may confuse the mind
Speaker 8: and injure the brain. And therefore, my friend, that when
Speaker 8: one has these sad conditions, when they come to our
Speaker 8: side of life, the fog lives and they start to
Speaker 8: see things more clearly, even though they have walked between
Speaker 8: our worlds for many days prior to their transition to
Speaker 8: our side of life. The mental block that people have
Speaker 8: within your world can come from the physical brain and
Speaker 8: may not be in harmony with the mind. And therefore,
Speaker 8: my friend, when the brain dies and die, it will
Speaker 8: the memories and the mind will carry on. But your
Speaker 8: soul that is transforming will say this has no meaning
Speaker 8: for me now, and therefore it will be shared within
Speaker 8: the wholes of learning, so others can be educated who
Speaker 8: may not have walked your path or walked within the
Speaker 8: time of your path. For instance, my dear boy, when
Speaker 8: you come to our side of life, and we will
Speaker 8: have a conversation. You can see the memory of who
Speaker 8: I am and what has led me to this point.
Speaker 8: You may see the areas of my life that I
Speaker 8: have forgotten myself, sides of my nature which I have
Speaker 8: to say only was pleasing when I breathed your world.
Speaker 8: That doesn't please me no more so, my friend, It
Speaker 8: is down to the individual that I ask you, what
Speaker 8: would be the purpose for you to remember a traumatic
Speaker 8: experience that I, thank God how usually got to be,
Speaker 8: but you have forgotten. So, my dear boy, once again,
Speaker 8: many things have been said that can describe one thing.
Speaker 8: The wholes of learning is like the library of your world,
Speaker 8: but it's not of dusty and tattered paper. It is
Speaker 8: of column of light. Light speaks to all, no matter
Speaker 8: what language you know. I myself had a fascinating conversation
Speaker 8: with gentlemen than known as how to cutter. But only
Speaker 8: through the memory of the wholes of learning. To see
Speaker 8: the memory of one discovering something that was last or
Speaker 8: was found at the most pathect time, there are great
Speaker 8: conversations for all of you. You will survive this. To
Speaker 8: see those conversations through is that please? In fighting my
Speaker 8: dear boy, I.
Speaker 7: Just expand on one part. So do I presume my
Speaker 7: memories as they happen instantly go into the hall of learning,
Speaker 7: So as it happens here on earth, you have a say,
Speaker 7: a recording of it in spirit. As it happens, it's recorded,
Speaker 7: Or do I just bring them back with me?
Speaker 8: Not necessarily, my boy. But remember there is your family
Speaker 8: that have seen certain events of yours and now in
Speaker 8: our world, and therefore they have shared their experiences if
Speaker 8: they wish. So we are already understanding and getting to
Speaker 8: know you prior to anyone's arrival. But if the memory
Speaker 8: was known by many minds, other minds may wish to
Speaker 8: share it before you arrive. If there is a time
Speaker 8: of traumatic, then we are called to serve and support
Speaker 8: where we can. And therefore we see the said event
Speaker 8: and we may share it with elders of my world
Speaker 8: so that we can understand further certain decisions that individuals
Speaker 8: have made. You have not got someone who sits on
Speaker 8: the cricket chair with parchment paper writing the story of
Speaker 8: your life. But my friend, your soul is attaining. And therefore,
Speaker 8: when you come to our side of life, when you
Speaker 8: come through the great experience of death. We will know
Speaker 8: who you are, and as one becomes more comfortable to
Speaker 8: the vibration you have entered, then the first to understand
Speaker 8: what has occurred begins. And part of that, my friend,
Speaker 8: is that we will take you to the place called
Speaker 8: the wholes of learning and introduce it to you like
Speaker 8: when you were a child, you were introduced to the library.
Speaker 8: This is where your knowledge will come from. This is
Speaker 8: what was whispered to you many years ago. There will
Speaker 8: be people of our world that will assist you through
Speaker 8: a process. But to understand this that your mentor who
Speaker 8: walks with you knows who you are, has already started
Speaker 8: to allow others to get to understand you. So, my friend,
Speaker 8: I say this not necessarily there is a copy of
Speaker 8: who you are, but people whisper in our world and
Speaker 8: it helps for all people who hear these whispers to
Speaker 8: fall even more deeply in love with you. Is that
Speaker 8: more pleasing for you?
Speaker 9: Yes?
Speaker 7: Thank you as always absolutely fascinating. I really are you
Speaker 7: to give me the information?
Speaker 8: Well, my dear boy, I'm only reminding you what you
Speaker 8: already know. That yourself is gaining knowledge that will aid others.
Speaker 8: If I can say this to you, and let me
Speaker 8: extend upon this. If you, yourself, or anyone who accepts
Speaker 8: these words has a curiosity or a fascination with history.
Speaker 8: For instance, the great boat that sank people in our
Speaker 8: world may have memories, and you may wish to accept
Speaker 8: those memories so that you can understand certain mysteries today
Speaker 8: which will be understood tomorrow. But the information that may
Speaker 8: be gained by one who fell on that event, it
Speaker 8: is forgotten by them, but stored in the light which
Speaker 8: you can step into and understand certain events that led
Speaker 8: up to the great ship that now lives at the
Speaker 8: core of the ocean. People may wish to know who
Speaker 8: I was, and I would say, it is a terribly
Speaker 8: laborious story. But if it is curious to you, you
Speaker 8: may know it. But I say, don't judge of the
Speaker 8: shadow of who I was, but judge for a person
Speaker 8: I am now. But remember the messenger is not important.
Speaker 8: The message is of importance. If that's pleasing for you,
Speaker 8: my dear boy, let us move along.
Speaker 3: Thank you interesting words. When we come back from the break,
Speaker 3: I want you to hear another perspective of these Akashek
Speaker 3: records or a library through John J. Davis, who had
Speaker 3: had a near death experience when he was clinically dead
Speaker 3: for seven minutes. So let's go to the break and
Speaker 3: we'll hear that story. You're listening to Shades of the
Speaker 3: Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast, a paranormal
Speaker 3: podcast network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm
Speaker 3: Sanders Champlain. So we heard about the Halls of Learning
Speaker 3: from the other side, and I thought, now it might
Speaker 3: be nice to hear about these halls of learning from
Speaker 3: someone who has had a near death experience. I interviewed
Speaker 3: John J. Davis back way back, actually on episode eleven.
Speaker 3: You can hear the entire story there. He was dead
Speaker 3: for seven minutes and he has one of the most
Speaker 3: descriptive near death experiences that I've ever heard. I won't
Speaker 3: play the whole thing now, just about him sharing about
Speaker 3: the library as he calls it, and where to learn.
Speaker 3: But he had a guide that took him to many
Speaker 3: many places. John doesn't have a book. He's not out
Speaker 3: for fame and fortune. He's just a guy with a story.
Speaker 3: So here is John J. Davis.
Speaker 1: This was the biggest building that I saw so far.
Speaker 1: It was huge, long, rectangle, gigantic building, and it only
Speaker 1: had columns in the front, no columns on the side,
Speaker 1: just columns in the front, and it looked like what
Speaker 1: we would call the Supreme Court building. Columns of the
Speaker 1: front and all these steps leading up to the entrance.
Speaker 1: So we walked in and it was a library, just
Speaker 1: an extraordinarily large, humongous library that had bookshelves maybe twenty
Speaker 1: feet high, full of different books. So anything you wanted
Speaker 1: to learn, whether it was about science or music or
Speaker 1: art or literature, everything was in this library. And that's
Speaker 1: when I started to realize that all of us were
Speaker 1: hardwired from God to want to learn. We always want
Speaker 1: to learn new things, and we love learning things here
Speaker 1: on earth, but we also love learning things on the
Speaker 1: other side, so that whole process of learning and developing
Speaker 1: and growing goes on for eternity, So it makes sense
Speaker 1: that there would be an unlimited amount of knowledge out
Speaker 1: there that you could spend eternity learning. So that was
Speaker 1: one of the things about the other side that they
Speaker 1: told me, that we learn continually and so much to learn,
Speaker 1: that people just love to learn, and that's what this
Speaker 1: building was. There were people everywhere, People were sitting at
Speaker 1: tables studying, Some people were talking, some people were looking
Speaker 1: at books for looking in the shelves for different books.
Speaker 1: And off to the left, my guy took me to
Speaker 1: on the left hand side of the building of this
Speaker 1: library there were rooms. And they were rooms like when
Speaker 1: we go to a library here and you can reserve
Speaker 1: a room like a study room. That's kind of what
Speaker 1: these looked like. They were about the size of an
Speaker 1: average master bedroom. So he took me over to one
Speaker 1: of them, and there was a woman inside. She had
Speaker 1: her back to me. She had jet black hair that
Speaker 1: went down to her waist, and she was wearing a
Speaker 1: kind of a purplish maroon type of a gown. And
Speaker 1: she was watching what we would call now was a
Speaker 1: flat screen TV, a big one, maybe fifty or sixty
Speaker 1: inches of a flat screen TV. And she was watching
Speaker 1: a point or she was watching a period of history
Speaker 1: on Earth that happened two hundred years ago. And she
Speaker 1: was watching a battle that had taken place between the
Speaker 1: Native American planes tribes and the US cavalry. And she
Speaker 1: was watching a battle that had really taking place. And
Speaker 1: I remember thinking to myself, how is it possible that
Speaker 1: she could be watching a battle that happened two hundred
Speaker 1: years ago as it really happened. We didn't have VIDI
Speaker 1: recorders back then. I don't think we even really had
Speaker 1: much of a camera back then. And my guide said
Speaker 1: everything gets recorded, and that blew my mind. I still
Speaker 1: to this day don't understand how everything can be recorded,
Speaker 1: but it is. So it's just got to be a
Speaker 1: god thing that I don't end at this level of
Speaker 1: my development. I have no idea how to explain how
Speaker 1: that's possible, but it is. And she was watching this,
Speaker 1: and that's when I started to realize also that anything
Speaker 1: that you want to learn about you can go to
Speaker 1: these rooms in this library and watch it. One of
Speaker 1: the things I want to do when I get back
Speaker 1: is I am a history buff. I love history, and
Speaker 1: one thing I want to do is go back to
Speaker 1: one of those rose rooms in the library, and I
Speaker 1: want to watch what happened on D Day in June
Speaker 1: of nineteen forty four during World War Two, just because
Speaker 1: I love history and I can't wait to get back
Speaker 1: to be able to do that and to learn so
Speaker 1: much more and to continue to keep that whole, that
Speaker 1: whole interest of learning growing. So I thought that was fantastic.
Speaker 1: The next place he took me to was a castle,
Speaker 1: and it looked just like a castle that you would
Speaker 1: have in medieval England. And what he told me was
Speaker 1: that everything that is on Earth now is on the
Speaker 1: other side first. And I didn't understand what that meant
Speaker 1: at the time, but every kind of a building that's
Speaker 1: here on Earth had come from the other side. It
Speaker 1: was kind of infused into the architects and the builders.
Speaker 1: So this was the castle that existed on Earth. And
Speaker 1: the reason being is if you wanted to learn about
Speaker 1: that particular era of Earth's history during medieval Europe, you
Speaker 1: could go to this place and see what the buildings
Speaker 1: actually looked like. Not only could you just read about
Speaker 1: it or see it on video, you could actually go
Speaker 1: and see tangibly what they were like. And this building
Speaker 1: was huge, made out of stone, just beautiful building. So
Speaker 1: we walked in and the first thing I noticed was
Speaker 1: a red carpet that was on the floor of the
Speaker 1: whole castle all the way through it. And on the
Speaker 1: left and to my right were these huge tall walls,
Speaker 1: and on the walls were life sized paintings of kings
Speaker 1: and queens, princesses and princes and dukes and everyone who
Speaker 1: had lived in that castle during that time period of
Speaker 1: Earth's history. So what you could do you could walk
Speaker 1: into the castle. You could look over these paintings and see, oh,
Speaker 1: that's what King George looked like. They were accurate paintings
Speaker 1: of what they looked like and what they wore. In
Speaker 1: front of each painting was a podium, and on the
Speaker 1: podium was a book. And what that book was it
Speaker 1: was about that person's lifetime during that period in Earth's history.
Speaker 1: So if you wanted to learn about them, you could
Speaker 1: go to this castle, walk in, you could see what
Speaker 1: they look like, and you could read about them on
Speaker 1: these books. Well, then something else happened that I still
Speaker 1: regret to this day, all these years later. You know
Speaker 1: how castles had those round staircases. And as I looked
Speaker 1: to my right, there was a woman who was walking
Speaker 1: down the staircase and she had strawberry blonde hair, and
Speaker 1: she was wearing kind of a pinkish kind of a gown.
Speaker 1: And she walked up to me and she said, is
Speaker 1: there anything I can help you find? You know what
Speaker 1: I said to her the stupidest thing I could ever
Speaker 1: have said. I said, oh, no, thanks, I'm just looking.
Speaker 1: How could I be so dumb to say that when
Speaker 1: I could have asked this girl anything, you know, who
Speaker 1: are you, where am I? What's going on? Well, I
Speaker 1: didn't even think about that. So my guide explained to
Speaker 1: me what she loves to do on the other side
Speaker 1: is what we would call being a historian, someone who
Speaker 1: loves that period of Earth's history. So again the whole
Speaker 1: idea of wanting to learn, you could come to a
Speaker 1: place like this and you could talk to this girl
Speaker 1: who is an expert in that particular era of Earth's history,
Speaker 1: And I just thought that was fantastic. I love knowing
Speaker 1: that not only can you learn, but you can go
Speaker 1: talk to someone who's like a professor about that era
Speaker 1: of Earth's history. He had one thing after this or
Speaker 1: after that, and then my story ends. But my guide
Speaker 1: took me to a field and it was the most
Speaker 1: beautiful wild flower field I've ever seen, rolling hills. The
Speaker 1: sun was out, it was a perfect day, slight breeze,
Speaker 1: and then my guide left and in front of me
Speaker 1: a gentleman a man showed up, and my very first
Speaker 1: impression was that it was Jesus. He didn't tell me
Speaker 1: who he was. I just knew it was him, and
Speaker 1: I could see. He was wearing a white robe, and
Speaker 1: I could see his hands, I could see his legs
Speaker 1: in his feet, and he had golden colored sandals on
Speaker 1: that wrapped up his calves, and he was wearing a
Speaker 1: kind of like a golden sash around his waist. And
Speaker 1: I didn't have any time to think, anytime to say anything.
Speaker 1: But he spoke to me, and he said, you must
Speaker 1: tell them there is no death. And I couldn't see him.
Speaker 1: He was different than everybody else.
Speaker 8: I saw.
Speaker 1: Everybody else looks like just you and I look, but
Speaker 1: he was so bright coming out of his face that
Speaker 1: I couldn't see his features. There was so much light.
Speaker 1: So when he said that you must tell them there
Speaker 1: is no death, immediately I was back in my body
Speaker 1: in the operating room, and I knew that he had
Speaker 1: given me this assignment. That what they showed me on
Speaker 1: my near death experience wasn't for me. It's for everybody
Speaker 1: else who would listen to me. And my job was
Speaker 1: to do whatever I could to share my story and
Speaker 1: to help others understand that there really is no death.
Speaker 1: No one really dies. We just lose them temporarily to
Speaker 1: the other side, but they're in another place and The
Speaker 1: message that they want me to share is one of hope,
Speaker 1: to never give up. Hope your loved ones are always
Speaker 1: there with you, and when you finish your lifetime, you'll
Speaker 1: be reunited with them. So give your life everything you've got,
Speaker 1: make it count, do your best, never give up, and
Speaker 1: always be hopeful.
Speaker 3: I couldn't think of any better words to leave you
Speaker 3: with on this episode today than those words from John.
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Speaker 3: of my favorite express sessions these days is there's more
Speaker 3: to life than meets the eye, and there's more to
Speaker 3: you than you know. I'm Sandra Champlain and I sincerely
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