WEBVTT - A Loss For Words 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:14.600 Good morning, keeps, and welcome to Okay f daily with 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:18.639 me your girl, Danielle Moody back in the Brooklyn Bunker. 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:26.560 I don't know what to say. I have just been contemplating, y'all, 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:32.240 when the last time, When was the last time that 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:41.080 I had consistently good feeling days in America? Meaning I 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:45.159 had good feeling days about the direction this country is 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:52.560 headed in about my faith in our institutions, any form 0:00:52.640 --> 0:01:00.600 of patriotism. And I'm really at a loss. I go 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:07.600 back to when the election was finally decided, and you know, 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:12.840 this sense of foolish you know now in hindsight being 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:18.560 twenty twenty foolish relief that I felt when Joe Biden 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:25.720 was named president. I remember going down and opening champagne 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:28.640 with my neighbors and being like, you know, we did it. 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:34.320 And at the time I thought that we did it, 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:39.400 that the did part was the hardest part of the 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:41.759 work that was going to be asked of us, which 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:45.160 was to go out in the midst of a health 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:51.640 pandemic without a vaccine, to vote Satan or who we 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:56.200 perceived to be Satan, out of the White House. And 0:01:56.320 --> 0:02:06.279 what I realized now, folks, is that I don't really 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:10.920 know what we did right. You know. It's one of 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:14.359 those feelings that I've that is like that has begun 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:19.520 to go keep me up at night, where I've been 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:24.400 saying for the longest time that the last election really 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:30.880 just hit pause on our democracies decline. But it actually didn't, 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:34.720 because if you've been listening and paying attention to you know, 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:37.079 the major headline stories, and I know that you are 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:41.240 because you listen to WOKAF, But there has been a 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:48.359 rapid uptick in the destruction of our democracy. So whether 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:53.560 we're looking at state and local bills like they don't 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:57.240 say gay bill, whether we're looking at the over twenty 0:02:57.240 --> 0:02:59.519 trigger laws that are about to take place when Rov 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:03.080 Wade is finally taken away, whether we're looking at the 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:05.720 leak draft, whether we're looking at Elon must saying that 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.840 Donald Trump is going to return to Twitter, whether we're 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:15.960 looking at you know, reports on climate change and how 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:24.600 rapidly the Earth is declining. I look at these things 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:29.440 and I thought that when we voted for Biden, that 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:32.920 we were putting an adult back in the room, that 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:35.280 there were going to be people that we could trust 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:40.240 to lead these institutions that had been up until that point. 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:43.880 Under Donald Trump completely and totally gutted. You saw a 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:49.760 massive resignation of career, career staff, which is integral to 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:55.000 the operation of all of our agencies, right, And I 0:03:55.080 --> 0:04:02.480 kind of felt that with the in stating of folks 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:06.040 with integrity that we would be in a better place. 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:13.400 And we're totally fucking not. I don't even know what 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:15.880 fucking place we're in. And this is why, like I 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:20.120 hit record, and generally I have some idea, you know, 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:22.200 when things written down that I want to talk about. 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:26.000 But I'm just like, folks, I'm fucking dumb struck. I 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:31.279 really am. I can't because every conversation that I'm having, 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:34.080 and this week I'm going to talk to you know, 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:37.159 a range of folks, but every conversation that I'm having, 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:41.120 I finished the interview feeling worse than when I went 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:46.279 into it. Meaning that we do our due diligence between 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:51.640 myself and my producer Andrew to bring in some of 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:57.279 the most thoughtful, well read, well researched, well versed people 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:01.359 on a range of topics, and it is starting to 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:03.960 hit me that with each and every person that I 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:07.599 am bringing on the show and engaging in conversation with 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:11.760 we all hang up feeling the same fucking way, which is, 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:14.160 I don't know what the fuck we're going to do, 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:22.960 and sometimes we say that, you know, coming up in 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:28.880 my conversation, my weekly conversation with our friend doctor Jonathan Metzel, 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:32.800 one of the things that I have been reading up 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:36.080 on because the news isn't really covering it anymore. It's 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:39.880 COVID and where the fuck we are with that? Welcome 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:42.479 to find out we have two new subvariants that have 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.679 been discovered in South Africa once again by the South 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:53.520 African doctors who are researching continuing to research how COVID 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:59.719 is mutating and the new sequencing and spike proteins. And 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:04.240 they're the only ones doing it because their country is 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:07.960 still largely sixty percent of the country is still largely unvaccinated. 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:11.440 Now that isn't because unlike in the United States, where 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:13.520 we have twenty three percent of the population that is 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:18.240 unvaccinated because they're fucking idiots. No, it's because the vaccine 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:22.000 is still not made widely available in places with black 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:26.960 and brown people that are though, you know that are 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:31.720 the citizens, and you know, these wealthier nations said that 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:35.719 they were going to do their part in ensuring that 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:41.599 less wealthy nations had the access that they needed in 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:44.440 order to get these vaccines vaccines or at least be 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:48.040 able to create their own versions for cheaper and they 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:50.240 haven't fucking followed through on that. But why would we 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:53.120 assume that white people in power would follow through on 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:59.680 any goddamn thing? Right, the health and welfare of each 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:03.920 other actually matters when you're in a shared global health pandemic. 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:08.839 But as it turns out, you know, white colonization and 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:14.680 supremacy doesn't really put the feelings and the well being 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:19.160 of others in the same realm that they do themselves, 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:22.880 And so they're pretty much like who the fuck cares. Sadly, 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:25.960 they're who the fuck cares mentality as it pertains to 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:30.320 giving low wealth countries the help and aid that they need, 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:33.360 because their protection means all of our protection is in 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:37.680 part of the scarcity white supremacy model. Right, You would 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:40.520 have to have an abundant way of thinking, right, that 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:43.520 all people matter, and that by and that my brother 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:47.320 really is my keeper, right, and that my responsibility really 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:49.840 is to my community, and not just the community that 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:51.760 I live in, but the global community in which I'm 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:54.600 a part of and you realize that that's not the case. 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:56.920 It doesn't fucking matter whether or not Donald Trump is 0:07:56.960 --> 0:08:01.800 in office or Joe Biden, frankly, because their attitudes to me, 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:07.240 when we are looking at the responsibility of this country 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:10.000 that has done so much damage, particularly in black and 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:13.800 brown nations and low income nations, to do the right 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:17.080 thing you have won, Donald Trump will just be like, 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:19.520 fuck those shit whole countries and tell you like it is. 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.000 You may not like it, but at least he's telling 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:25.040 you the fucking truth about how he feels, right, so 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:28.320 you don't expect shit from him. But what I realize 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:33.800 is that democrats are justice are are just nuanced in there. 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:38.240 I don't give a fuck about that country, right, They 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:43.120 just count their same result of do nothing in nuance. 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:48.040 So you'll talk about, oh, we need to have immigration 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:50.679 policy and we need to do these things, and the 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:54.200 humanity of all people and the dehumanization that is happening 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:57.800 overseas to the people of Ukraine at the hands of Russia, 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:01.480 but you won't take any responsibility for the dehumanization that 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:05.240 we all witnessed at the hands of US border patrol 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:13.920 towards Haitian migrants and those from Central America and Mexico, right, like, 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:17.880 we won't talk about that. And you see, this is 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:20.480 what I'm saying about Republicans, is that they'll just tell 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:23.240 you straight up who the fuck they don't give a 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:28.120 fuck about, right Whereas Democrats, I guess, allow us to 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:31.000 be able to pretend that they care when we know 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:35.400 that their actions actually really do line up. So right now, 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:41.520 when we're still reeling from the news of the leaked 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:47.439 abortion decision draft from the Supreme Court, and then you're 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:53.160 watching the news and realizing that some Democrats are still 0:09:53.200 --> 0:10:00.520 coming out publicly with their support for codifying a abortion 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:06.199 and other repro care into our laws, we're still trying 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:08.840 to convince Democrats that women need to be able to 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:14.040 have the ability to control their own bodies. So I'm 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:17.400 supposed to feel what exactly about the Republicans who I 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:24.080 know where they have always aligned so on this issue, 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:27.560 once again, we're not going to be able to do 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:30.360 what is right. One. We need the sixty votes, and 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:32.959 nobody's going to blow up the filibuster for voting rights, 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:36.040 for women's rights, for anything, because it is the preservation 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:41.440 of this archaic, fucking tool that is more important than 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:45.840 the preservation of bodily autonomy, liberty and justice for all. 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:53.920 So you know, forgive me on this Wednesday for being 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:06.679 I don't know, just outdone and at a loss for words, folks. 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:12.880 I can't tell you that it matters that we're gearing 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:16.640 up for public hearings with the one six House Commission, 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:19.320 because I don't think that it does. I can't tell 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:24.400 you that it matters that Elon Musk, once he buys Twitter, 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:27.200 is going to put Donald Trump back on I can't 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:29.560 tell you that I give a shit. I mean, I 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:33.079 hate Elon Musk and everybody knows that. And I hate 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:36.120 white men in power who abuse it and use their 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:44.359 power to threaten harm and cause pain for marginalized communities 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:47.440 just because they can. For the fucktion of it. Right, 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:54.360 I'm at a place where I actually do just want 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:56.240 to see all of this shit burned to the ground. 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:00.520 I'm going to be honest. I don't think that there 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:04.120 is stopped, there's any way to stop the inevitable. I 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:08.360 keep thinking about the matrix in my head where you 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:14.360 know mister Smith, who was consistently going after NEO, said 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:18.000 that he was trying to stop the inevitable. Right, it 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:20.000 was going to be inevitable that the machines were going 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:25.400 to take over, right, that that human kind was going 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:30.079 to be enslaved right inside of this matrix, that they 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:33.480 were never going to win. And I mean in it's Hollywood, 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:36.680 so you know, the good guys win in the end. 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:43.440 But there was a repeat of history, and there probably 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:47.040 will be because what the matrix, the last installation showed 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:55.480 us is that without persistent vigilance, without the consistency in 0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:05.320 vigilance in training, in building up a pipeline of people 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:09.640 to come behind those that are currently in power, without 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:21.680 this war posture, right, where do we go? What do 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:26.800 we do? It is inevitable that our democracy is going 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:29.800 to fail because it takes two parties in order for 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:31.800 it to succeed, in two parties in order for it 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:34.679 to fail. Now I can point fingers and say all 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:36.440 of the things that I've been saying until I'm blue 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:39.360 in the face about what Republicans are doing, and they're doing, 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.240 you know, in broad daylight, right, they're doing out in 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:44.079 the open, and they're doing it with little to no 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:49.400 opposition whatsoever. And it is that lack of opposition. It 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:54.120 is that lack of offense on the part of the 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:57.840 Democratic Party that is going to be the final nail 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:00.880 in the coffin of our democracy that were Publicans have built. 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:05.160 And so when you realize all of these things one 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:08.320 fucking interview and one conversation after the other, you're just like, 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:11.840 can we fast forward to the end, right and figure 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:13.920 out who is left and what is left and if 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:20.520 anything can be rebuilt? Because this fucking, you know, accelerated 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:23.520 coup ride that we're on right now is getting on 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:27.480 my fucking nerves right, Like, I just want to fast 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:30.960 forward to midterms when we lose, fast forward to what 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:34.440 Republicans are going to do and how they're going to 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:37.160 gut the country, and then fast forward to twenty twenty 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:41.160 four when there is the final fascist takeover, and then 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:44.160 fast forward five ten years down the road from there. 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:47.600 Will there be a revolution or will the people be 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:50.960 too apathetic to actually do anything and they'll just succumb 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:54.560 to the will and the whim of the oppressor. I 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:58.240 don't know, but I gotta tell you that it doesn't 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:02.560 feel good after each and every conversation that people that 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:06.320 are way smarter than me are feeling the exact same thing. 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:16.880 Absent any action in the next five months from the 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:23.360 Democratic Party, We're done. So that's how I'm feeling today, 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:25.560 and I'm not going to bullshit you. Some days I 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:28.440 have more energy and fight and fire than others. Today 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:31.560 is not that day. Today is the day that I 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:35.640 read headline after headline and watched way too much news 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:39.160 and none of it is trending in our direction. And 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:41.600 so what does that mean about how we're going to 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:47.360 fortifiers ourselves, our sanity, our wellbeing as we move through 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:51.640 what is going to be the inevitable demise of America 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:54.640 and the America that we know. How do we prepare 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:58.200 for this next version that is going to be Actually 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:00.640 where my mind is for the next couple of days, 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:02.840 in the next couple of weeks, the next couple of months. 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:09.520 This country has seen a lot of bad days, a 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:12.960 lot of bad centuries, depending on what community you're a 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:18.560 part of. This is something that is a little bit 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:23.000 different to me. It's a little scarier because we have 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:25.800 more knowledge than ever before, we have more tools than 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:31.360 ever before, and yet seemed to be stuck and I 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:34.920 don't know what it's going to take to unstick us. 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:39.000 Coming up next, friends, my conversation with our good doctor, 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:42.040 doctor Jonathan Metzo, about where we are with COVID and 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:45.240 what we need to be paying attention to in that 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:49.920 news story that no longer makes news. Hey, I'm David. 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:55.000 Plots of Slice Political Gabfest. As another election season accelerates, 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:57.600 it can be tricky to sort through all the noise 0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:00.760 and the news. 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Jonathan. 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:09.760 So I know that the world believes that COVID is over. 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:14.520 I have had at least three friends in the last 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:18.399 week tell me that they have tested positive for COVID. 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:24.560 Yesterday I read a New York Times article that went 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:28.960 through the two new sub variants of omicron that have 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:34.680 been discovered once again by the amazing doctors in their 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:37.840 sequencing that they've been doing in South Africa. Because no 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:41.320 one else, apparently in the world outside of South Africa 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:47.440 is still investigating how COVID is mutating and why is that? Well, 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:52.359 because I believe that there is still sixty percent of 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:55.520 people in Africa have not received their first dose of 0:18:55.560 --> 0:19:03.040 the vaccine in South Africa. In neighboring countries and neighboring nations, 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:07.679 vaccination remains incredibly low. So it is not unusual for 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:10.760 us to be hearing that there are mutations that are 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:13.480 coming out of a region that we have yet to 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:20.479 as as a wealthy nation, have yet to provide with 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:22.959 the kind of aid that they need. In the New 0:19:23.040 --> 0:19:28.000 York Times article, Jonathan I will say this white journalism 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:31.400 is on is some shit. And it was because there 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:34.080 was one sentence in there that really threw me for 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:38.199 a loop, and it said, even the United States doesn't 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:43.240 have tent doesn't have twenty three percent of the country vaccinated. I'mlike, 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:45.959 even the United States, the United States has the worst 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:49.840 COVID numbers on the planet, with now over a million 0:19:49.880 --> 0:19:55.439 people having died, like a hundred million plus have been infected. 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:58.160 But the way that was written was just like, oh, 0:19:58.200 --> 0:20:02.720 and even us were struggle. I'm like, we've been ground zero. 0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:08.320 So give me your initial reactions to this news about 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:12.640 BA point four and BA point five, the new sub 0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:15.960 variants of omicron, and what they are saying is that 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:20.440 you are vaccinated, you won't be hospitalized, but this time around, 0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:26.639 you also won't be asymptomatic. When when we were kids 0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:29.440 in Missouri, my parents would take us this place called 0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:33.360 Trout Farm. And the thing about Trout Farm was like 0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:36.159 there were like a bunch of like little trout that 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:38.399 they would throw into the pond. They was like, you know, 0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:40.800 it's like little kids can feel good catching fish in 0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:45.240 a teeny little pond. And the usually you'd catch some 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:47.240 teeny little fish that had just been thrown in the 0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:50.680 pond like two minutes ago. And there were all these 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:52.960 really big trout at the bottom, and they were the 0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:55.639 smart trout who like never got caught because they're like, 0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:57.479 I'm not eating that worm, Like the hell with that, 0:20:57.600 --> 0:21:00.720 you know, And so we just wanted to catch the 0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:03.280 big trout, but we never did because they were the 0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:05.719 trout that that, you know, that that knew what they 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:07.720 were doing. And I feel like COVID now is coming 0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:10.320 for the big trout, and we're the big trout because 0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:13.600 we're the people who have been like wearing our masks 0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:16.520 and washing our hands and social distancing and doing all 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:21.560 this stuff. And so now COVID has figured out, like, man, 0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:24.080 there's a whole there's a whole browth economy for us 0:21:24.080 --> 0:21:27.240 out there. Yeah, and we can get the big trout, 0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:29.680 the people who have actually done the right shit the 0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:33.879 entire time. We're coming for those guys. And so in 0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:36.520 a way, that's kind of what's happening is that COVID 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:39.160 has figured out a way to get like us, Like, 0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:42.480 I'm not surprised that, like, you know, the yackerdoodles who 0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:45.679 are just like, you know, embracing COVID and licking the 0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:48.040 subway pole and stuff like, they're you know, they've had 0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:51.959 it a bunch of times already. But the problem with 0:21:52.000 --> 0:21:55.359 these new variants is that, I mean, you know, the 0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:57.840 big O member when we started talking about it was 0:21:58.320 --> 0:22:01.359 it was so and it was so infectious that it 0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:03.480 was like, oh my god, how could anything born infect said? 0:22:03.480 --> 0:22:05.800 Now this new ship is like twenty seven times more 0:22:05.960 --> 0:22:09.000 more infectious than that, And so we're up in Measles 0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:11.480 territory right now. Is basically the long and the short 0:22:11.480 --> 0:22:14.199 of it. And that makes I mean, and so the 0:22:14.240 --> 0:22:16.040 stories that we're hearing, and I'm sure it's the same 0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:20.320 for you, also, the stories that we're hearing are not 0:22:20.560 --> 0:22:24.720 of people who like, went to a strip club, Hey darn, 0:22:24.760 --> 0:22:27.040 I got COVID at a strip club. Whatever. What we're 0:22:27.080 --> 0:22:30.560 hearing is people who sound like me and you, who 0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:33.320 are like, I was so careful this whole time, How 0:22:33.320 --> 0:22:34.840 the heck did I get COVID? And I've got a 0:22:34.840 --> 0:22:36.560 ton of people in my circle who are the same 0:22:36.640 --> 0:22:39.359 kind of thing, the big trout at the bottom of 0:22:39.400 --> 0:22:42.639 the thing. But I would say that COVID has figured 0:22:42.680 --> 0:22:45.160 out a way to make itself. I mean, we're really 0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:52.320 in among the most infectious possible zones right now. It's 0:22:52.520 --> 0:22:54.879 I mean, we're way up there in the history of 0:22:54.960 --> 0:23:01.639 viruses with this kind of spread. Makes it's almost impossible 0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:05.840 to avoid. I mean, unless you're I mean, I don't know. 0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:07.840 I live by myself. I go to the gym, I 0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:10.280 went to the gym's morning. I wore a mask, that 0:23:10.400 --> 0:23:12.040 kind of thing. But even you know, I've got to 0:23:12.080 --> 0:23:14.080 go take a flight later today. I'll have my mask 0:23:14.160 --> 0:23:15.640 on that kind of thing. But it's hard to it's 0:23:15.640 --> 0:23:18.440 hard to avoid this now. I was gonna say, I 0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:21.719 feel like we have gotten to the place where and 0:23:21.760 --> 0:23:25.119 this is what I have was just home of visiting 0:23:25.160 --> 0:23:29.440 my family for Mother's Day, and you know, myself, my mother, 0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:33.520 my sister who lives abroad, we have yet to get 0:23:33.560 --> 0:23:38.840 COVID right, And I have said to her now it's 0:23:38.840 --> 0:23:42.000 pretty much just inevitable, right, like there is there is 0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:44.480 really no avoiding this. And for a couple of reasons. 0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:49.640 One because everything is back right, events are back. Panels 0:23:49.640 --> 0:23:52.720 are back in person, Galers are back in person. Right, 0:23:52.960 --> 0:23:57.520 You're being asked or invited to events and you can't 0:23:57.560 --> 0:24:00.560 say no at this stage because now every one it's going. 0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:05.400 So there is this pure pressure that is now present 0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:08.720 where it would seem ridiculous for you to say, I'm 0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:11.320 not going to do X because of COVID. Right, We're 0:24:11.359 --> 0:24:13.879 never going to see a shutdown again. These things aren't 0:24:13.880 --> 0:24:16.640 going to happen. But at the same time, we haven't 0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:18.840 even hit summer yet, and the White House is already 0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:22.000 warning us of a really bad COVID fall in winter, 0:24:22.160 --> 0:24:24.160 And I'm like, oh, you mean like the pattern we've 0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:27.159 been doing for the last two years, Like we know 0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:33.080 that every winter and fall is bad. So if we've 0:24:33.119 --> 0:24:35.840 all been doing the right thing, we're in Measle's territory. 0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:39.840 Just unpack for a bit what that actually means. Is 0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:43.840 it fully endemic? Is it just we just get ourselves 0:24:43.880 --> 0:24:47.160 all together, you know, in a hotel room, pop champagne 0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:50.280 and just get COVID and then go home and get 0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:52.800 over it. Well, you know the bad thing about this 0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:56.800 new COVID I haven't come up with a catching nickname 0:24:56.840 --> 0:25:03.280 for it yet, but I'll say that it's it's it's 0:25:03.440 --> 0:25:07.000 escaping the people who have got COVID before are getting 0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:10.680 COVID with this new COVID. People who got vaccinated are 0:25:10.720 --> 0:25:14.960 getting this new covid. The vaccine rate that the infection 0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:17.959 rates are just as high in New York as they 0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:22.679 are in the South. So the new COVID has figured 0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:25.600 out a way around not just around like our own 0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:29.440 social defenses, but also around the kind of antibody and 0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:34.119 and T cell and other responses that we've had that 0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:37.480 that that basically gave us memory. And so it'll be 0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:42.880 interesting to see, you know, right now there's infection rates 0:25:42.920 --> 0:25:44.720 right which are super high, and I think what we're 0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:47.240 seeing nobody wants to admit it really is that the 0:25:47.320 --> 0:25:49.800 vaccine is not it's not really. Of course, it's not 0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:53.240 preventing infection. A lot of people are getting sick, people 0:25:53.280 --> 0:25:56.720 are getting symptomatic even if they've been vaccinated. But that's 0:25:56.760 --> 0:25:59.280 also true for people who've had COVID before. So it's 0:25:59.320 --> 0:26:01.560 good getting around people who also have the imman response 0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:04.320 of having COVID before. So this is like this has 0:26:04.359 --> 0:26:07.439 reinvented itself to the point where it's almost like a 0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:09.879 kind of new thing in a way, and so the 0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:13.560 issue will be how sick are people getting right, what's 0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:16.840 going to happen to hospitalizations, what's going to happen to deaths? 0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:20.639 And I'd say, at least right now, at least right now, 0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:23.399 it doesn't seem the main thing is that the early 0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:27.160 variants attack the lungs, and anything in the Omo cron 0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:30.480 chain does not attack the lungs. And so I think 0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:33.080 that as long as we're in that chain, you know, 0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:35.600 lung infection is what killed a lot of people, and 0:26:35.640 --> 0:26:38.480 so so I don't think we're going to see the 0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:41.320 level of death that we saw before. But it's also 0:26:41.520 --> 0:26:45.120 super shit, right because what this tells us number one, 0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:49.840 is that the virus is mutating well beyond what anybody expected, 0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:51.840