1 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: Good morning, keeps, and welcome to Okay f daily with 2 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 1: me your girl, Danielle Moody back in the Brooklyn Bunker. 3 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what to say. I have just been contemplating, y'all, 4 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: when the last time, When was the last time that 5 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: I had consistently good feeling days in America? Meaning I 6 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: had good feeling days about the direction this country is 7 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: headed in about my faith in our institutions, any form 8 00:00:52,640 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: of patriotism. And I'm really at a loss. I go 9 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: back to when the election was finally decided, and you know, 10 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: this sense of foolish you know now in hindsight being 11 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: twenty twenty foolish relief that I felt when Joe Biden 12 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: was named president. I remember going down and opening champagne 13 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: with my neighbors and being like, you know, we did it. 14 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: And at the time I thought that we did it, 15 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: that the did part was the hardest part of the 16 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 1: work that was going to be asked of us, which 17 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: was to go out in the midst of a health 18 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: pandemic without a vaccine, to vote Satan or who we 19 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: perceived to be Satan, out of the White House. And 20 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:06,279 Speaker 1: what I realized now, folks, is that I don't really 21 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: know what we did right. You know. It's one of 22 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: those feelings that I've that is like that has begun 23 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: to go keep me up at night, where I've been 24 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: saying for the longest time that the last election really 25 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: just hit pause on our democracies decline. But it actually didn't, 26 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: because if you've been listening and paying attention to you know, 27 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: the major headline stories, and I know that you are 28 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: because you listen to WOKAF, But there has been a 29 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: rapid uptick in the destruction of our democracy. So whether 30 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: we're looking at state and local bills like they don't 31 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: say gay bill, whether we're looking at the over twenty 32 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: trigger laws that are about to take place when Rov 33 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: Wade is finally taken away, whether we're looking at the 34 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: leak draft, whether we're looking at Elon must saying that 35 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is going to return to Twitter, whether we're 36 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: looking at you know, reports on climate change and how 37 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: rapidly the Earth is declining. I look at these things 38 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: and I thought that when we voted for Biden, that 39 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: we were putting an adult back in the room, that 40 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: there were going to be people that we could trust 41 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: to lead these institutions that had been up until that point. 42 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: Under Donald Trump completely and totally gutted. You saw a 43 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: massive resignation of career, career staff, which is integral to 44 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: the operation of all of our agencies, right, And I 45 00:03:55,080 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: kind of felt that with the in stating of folks 46 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: with integrity that we would be in a better place. 47 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: And we're totally fucking not. I don't even know what 48 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: fucking place we're in. And this is why, like I 49 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: hit record, and generally I have some idea, you know, 50 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: when things written down that I want to talk about. 51 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: But I'm just like, folks, I'm fucking dumb struck. I 52 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: really am. I can't because every conversation that I'm having, 53 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: and this week I'm going to talk to you know, 54 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: a range of folks, but every conversation that I'm having, 55 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: I finished the interview feeling worse than when I went 56 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: into it. Meaning that we do our due diligence between 57 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: myself and my producer Andrew to bring in some of 58 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: the most thoughtful, well read, well researched, well versed people 59 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 1: on a range of topics, and it is starting to 60 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: hit me that with each and every person that I 61 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: am bringing on the show and engaging in conversation with 62 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: we all hang up feeling the same fucking way, which is, 63 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what the fuck we're going to do, 64 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: and sometimes we say that, you know, coming up in 65 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: my conversation, my weekly conversation with our friend doctor Jonathan Metzel, 66 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: one of the things that I have been reading up 67 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: on because the news isn't really covering it anymore. It's 68 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: COVID and where the fuck we are with that? Welcome 69 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: to find out we have two new subvariants that have 70 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,679 Speaker 1: been discovered in South Africa once again by the South 71 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: African doctors who are researching continuing to research how COVID 72 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: is mutating and the new sequencing and spike proteins. And 73 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: they're the only ones doing it because their country is 74 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: still largely sixty percent of the country is still largely unvaccinated. 75 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: Now that isn't because unlike in the United States, where 76 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: we have twenty three percent of the population that is 77 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: unvaccinated because they're fucking idiots. No, it's because the vaccine 78 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: is still not made widely available in places with black 79 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: and brown people that are though, you know that are 80 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: the citizens, and you know, these wealthier nations said that 81 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: they were going to do their part in ensuring that 82 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: less wealthy nations had the access that they needed in 83 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: order to get these vaccines vaccines or at least be 84 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: able to create their own versions for cheaper and they 85 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: haven't fucking followed through on that. But why would we 86 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: assume that white people in power would follow through on 87 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: any goddamn thing? Right, the health and welfare of each 88 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: other actually matters when you're in a shared global health pandemic. 89 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: But as it turns out, you know, white colonization and 90 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: supremacy doesn't really put the feelings and the well being 91 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: of others in the same realm that they do themselves, 92 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: And so they're pretty much like who the fuck cares. Sadly, 93 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: they're who the fuck cares mentality as it pertains to 94 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: giving low wealth countries the help and aid that they need, 95 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: because their protection means all of our protection is in 96 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: part of the scarcity white supremacy model. Right, You would 97 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: have to have an abundant way of thinking, right, that 98 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: all people matter, and that by and that my brother 99 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: really is my keeper, right, and that my responsibility really 100 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: is to my community, and not just the community that 101 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: I live in, but the global community in which I'm 102 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: a part of and you realize that that's not the case. 103 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: It doesn't fucking matter whether or not Donald Trump is 104 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: in office or Joe Biden, frankly, because their attitudes to me, 105 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: when we are looking at the responsibility of this country 106 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: that has done so much damage, particularly in black and 107 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: brown nations and low income nations, to do the right 108 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: thing you have won, Donald Trump will just be like, 109 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: fuck those shit whole countries and tell you like it is. 110 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: You may not like it, but at least he's telling 111 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: you the fucking truth about how he feels, right, so 112 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: you don't expect shit from him. But what I realize 113 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: is that democrats are justice are are just nuanced in there. 114 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck about that country, right, They 115 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: just count their same result of do nothing in nuance. 116 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: So you'll talk about, oh, we need to have immigration 117 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: policy and we need to do these things, and the 118 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: humanity of all people and the dehumanization that is happening 119 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: overseas to the people of Ukraine at the hands of Russia, 120 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: but you won't take any responsibility for the dehumanization that 121 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: we all witnessed at the hands of US border patrol 122 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: towards Haitian migrants and those from Central America and Mexico, right, like, 123 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: we won't talk about that. And you see, this is 124 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: what I'm saying about Republicans, is that they'll just tell 125 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: you straight up who the fuck they don't give a 126 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: fuck about, right Whereas Democrats, I guess, allow us to 127 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: be able to pretend that they care when we know 128 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: that their actions actually really do line up. So right now, 129 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: when we're still reeling from the news of the leaked 130 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 1: abortion decision draft from the Supreme Court, and then you're 131 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: watching the news and realizing that some Democrats are still 132 00:09:53,200 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: coming out publicly with their support for codifying a abortion 133 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 1: and other repro care into our laws, we're still trying 134 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: to convince Democrats that women need to be able to 135 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: have the ability to control their own bodies. So I'm 136 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: supposed to feel what exactly about the Republicans who I 137 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: know where they have always aligned so on this issue, 138 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: once again, we're not going to be able to do 139 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: what is right. One. We need the sixty votes, and 140 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 1: nobody's going to blow up the filibuster for voting rights, 141 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: for women's rights, for anything, because it is the preservation 142 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: of this archaic, fucking tool that is more important than 143 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: the preservation of bodily autonomy, liberty and justice for all. 144 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: So you know, forgive me on this Wednesday for being 145 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: I don't know, just outdone and at a loss for words, folks. 146 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: I can't tell you that it matters that we're gearing 147 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: up for public hearings with the one six House Commission, 148 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: because I don't think that it does. I can't tell 149 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: you that it matters that Elon Musk, once he buys Twitter, 150 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: is going to put Donald Trump back on I can't 151 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: tell you that I give a shit. I mean, I 152 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 1: hate Elon Musk and everybody knows that. And I hate 153 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: white men in power who abuse it and use their 154 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:44,359 Speaker 1: power to threaten harm and cause pain for marginalized communities 155 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: just because they can. For the fucktion of it. Right, 156 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: I'm at a place where I actually do just want 157 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: to see all of this shit burned to the ground. 158 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to be honest. I don't think that there 159 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: is stopped, there's any way to stop the inevitable. I 160 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: keep thinking about the matrix in my head where you 161 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: know mister Smith, who was consistently going after NEO, said 162 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: that he was trying to stop the inevitable. Right, it 163 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: was going to be inevitable that the machines were going 164 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: to take over, right, that that human kind was going 165 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 1: to be enslaved right inside of this matrix, that they 166 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: were never going to win. And I mean in it's Hollywood, 167 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: so you know, the good guys win in the end. 168 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: But there was a repeat of history, and there probably 169 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: will be because what the matrix, the last installation showed 170 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: us is that without persistent vigilance, without the consistency in 171 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: vigilance in training, in building up a pipeline of people 172 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: to come behind those that are currently in power, without 173 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: this war posture, right, where do we go? What do 174 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: we do? It is inevitable that our democracy is going 175 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: to fail because it takes two parties in order for 176 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: it to succeed, in two parties in order for it 177 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: to fail. Now I can point fingers and say all 178 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: of the things that I've been saying until I'm blue 179 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: in the face about what Republicans are doing, and they're doing, 180 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: you know, in broad daylight, right, they're doing out in 181 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 1: the open, and they're doing it with little to no 182 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: opposition whatsoever. And it is that lack of opposition. It 183 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: is that lack of offense on the part of the 184 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: Democratic Party that is going to be the final nail 185 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: in the coffin of our democracy that were Publicans have built. 186 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: And so when you realize all of these things one 187 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: fucking interview and one conversation after the other, you're just like, 188 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: can we fast forward to the end, right and figure 189 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: out who is left and what is left and if 190 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: anything can be rebuilt? Because this fucking, you know, accelerated 191 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: coup ride that we're on right now is getting on 192 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: my fucking nerves right, Like, I just want to fast 193 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: forward to midterms when we lose, fast forward to what 194 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: Republicans are going to do and how they're going to 195 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: gut the country, and then fast forward to twenty twenty 196 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: four when there is the final fascist takeover, and then 197 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: fast forward five ten years down the road from there. 198 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: Will there be a revolution or will the people be 199 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: too apathetic to actually do anything and they'll just succumb 200 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: to the will and the whim of the oppressor. I 201 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: don't know, but I gotta tell you that it doesn't 202 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: feel good after each and every conversation that people that 203 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: are way smarter than me are feeling the exact same thing. 204 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: Absent any action in the next five months from the 205 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: Democratic Party, We're done. So that's how I'm feeling today, 206 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: and I'm not going to bullshit you. Some days I 207 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: have more energy and fight and fire than others. Today 208 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: is not that day. Today is the day that I 209 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: read headline after headline and watched way too much news 210 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: and none of it is trending in our direction. And 211 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: so what does that mean about how we're going to 212 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: fortifiers ourselves, our sanity, our wellbeing as we move through 213 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: what is going to be the inevitable demise of America 214 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: and the America that we know. How do we prepare 215 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: for this next version that is going to be Actually 216 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: where my mind is for the next couple of days, 217 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: in the next couple of weeks, the next couple of months. 218 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: This country has seen a lot of bad days, a 219 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: lot of bad centuries, depending on what community you're a 220 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: part of. This is something that is a little bit 221 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: different to me. It's a little scarier because we have 222 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: more knowledge than ever before, we have more tools than 223 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: ever before, and yet seemed to be stuck and I 224 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: don't know what it's going to take to unstick us. 225 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: Coming up next, friends, my conversation with our good doctor, 226 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: doctor Jonathan Metzo, about where we are with COVID and 227 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: what we need to be paying attention to in that 228 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: news story that no longer makes news. Hey, I'm David. 229 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: Plots of Slice Political Gabfest. 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Jonathan. 250 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: So I know that the world believes that COVID is over. 251 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: I have had at least three friends in the last 252 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: week tell me that they have tested positive for COVID. 253 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: Yesterday I read a New York Times article that went 254 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: through the two new sub variants of omicron that have 255 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: been discovered once again by the amazing doctors in their 256 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: sequencing that they've been doing in South Africa. Because no 257 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: one else, apparently in the world outside of South Africa 258 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: is still investigating how COVID is mutating and why is that? Well, 259 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: because I believe that there is still sixty percent of 260 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: people in Africa have not received their first dose of 261 00:18:55,560 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: the vaccine in South Africa. In neighboring countries and neighboring nations, 262 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: vaccination remains incredibly low. So it is not unusual for 263 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: us to be hearing that there are mutations that are 264 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: coming out of a region that we have yet to 265 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:20,479 Speaker 1: as as a wealthy nation, have yet to provide with 266 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,959 Speaker 1: the kind of aid that they need. In the New 267 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: York Times article, Jonathan I will say this white journalism 268 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: is on is some shit. And it was because there 269 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: was one sentence in there that really threw me for 270 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 1: a loop, and it said, even the United States doesn't 271 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: have tent doesn't have twenty three percent of the country vaccinated. I'mlike, 272 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,959 Speaker 1: even the United States, the United States has the worst 273 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: COVID numbers on the planet, with now over a million 274 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: people having died, like a hundred million plus have been infected. 275 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: But the way that was written was just like, oh, 276 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: and even us were struggle. I'm like, we've been ground zero. 277 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: So give me your initial reactions to this news about 278 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 1: BA point four and BA point five, the new sub 279 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: variants of omicron, and what they are saying is that 280 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: you are vaccinated, you won't be hospitalized, but this time around, 281 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: you also won't be asymptomatic. When when we were kids 282 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: in Missouri, my parents would take us this place called 283 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 1: Trout Farm. And the thing about Trout Farm was like 284 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: there were like a bunch of like little trout that 285 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: they would throw into the pond. They was like, you know, 286 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: it's like little kids can feel good catching fish in 287 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: a teeny little pond. And the usually you'd catch some 288 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: teeny little fish that had just been thrown in the 289 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: pond like two minutes ago. And there were all these 290 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: really big trout at the bottom, and they were the 291 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: smart trout who like never got caught because they're like, 292 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,479 Speaker 1: I'm not eating that worm, Like the hell with that, 293 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: you know, And so we just wanted to catch the 294 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: big trout, but we never did because they were the 295 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,719 Speaker 1: trout that that, you know, that that knew what they 296 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: were doing. And I feel like COVID now is coming 297 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: for the big trout, and we're the big trout because 298 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: we're the people who have been like wearing our masks 299 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: and washing our hands and social distancing and doing all 300 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: this stuff. And so now COVID has figured out, like, man, 301 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: there's a whole there's a whole browth economy for us 302 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, and we can get the big trout, 303 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: the people who have actually done the right shit the 304 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: entire time. We're coming for those guys. And so in 305 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: a way, that's kind of what's happening is that COVID 306 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: has figured out a way to get like us, Like, 307 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised that, like, you know, the yackerdoodles who 308 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: are just like, you know, embracing COVID and licking the 309 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: subway pole and stuff like, they're you know, they've had 310 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,959 Speaker 1: it a bunch of times already. But the problem with 311 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: these new variants is that, I mean, you know, the 312 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: big O member when we started talking about it was 313 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: it was so and it was so infectious that it 314 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, how could anything born infect said? 315 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: Now this new ship is like twenty seven times more 316 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: more infectious than that, And so we're up in Measles 317 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: territory right now. Is basically the long and the short 318 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 1: of it. And that makes I mean, and so the 319 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: stories that we're hearing, and I'm sure it's the same 320 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: for you, also, the stories that we're hearing are not 321 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: of people who like, went to a strip club, Hey darn, 322 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: I got COVID at a strip club. Whatever. What we're 323 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: hearing is people who sound like me and you, who 324 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: are like, I was so careful this whole time, How 325 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: the heck did I get COVID? And I've got a 326 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: ton of people in my circle who are the same 327 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: kind of thing, the big trout at the bottom of 328 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: the thing. But I would say that COVID has figured 329 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: out a way to make itself. I mean, we're really 330 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: in among the most infectious possible zones right now. It's 331 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: I mean, we're way up there in the history of 332 00:22:54,960 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: viruses with this kind of spread. Makes it's almost impossible 333 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: to avoid. I mean, unless you're I mean, I don't know. 334 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: I live by myself. I go to the gym, I 335 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: went to the gym's morning. I wore a mask, that 336 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: kind of thing. But even you know, I've got to 337 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: go take a flight later today. I'll have my mask 338 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: on that kind of thing. But it's hard to it's 339 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: hard to avoid this now. I was gonna say, I 340 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,719 Speaker 1: feel like we have gotten to the place where and 341 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: this is what I have was just home of visiting 342 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: my family for Mother's Day, and you know, myself, my mother, 343 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: my sister who lives abroad, we have yet to get 344 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: COVID right, And I have said to her now it's 345 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: pretty much just inevitable, right, like there is there is 346 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: really no avoiding this. And for a couple of reasons. 347 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 1: One because everything is back right, events are back. Panels 348 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: are back in person, Galers are back in person. Right, 349 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: You're being asked or invited to events and you can't 350 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: say no at this stage because now every one it's going. 351 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 1: So there is this pure pressure that is now present 352 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: where it would seem ridiculous for you to say, I'm 353 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: not going to do X because of COVID. Right, We're 354 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: never going to see a shutdown again. These things aren't 355 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: going to happen. But at the same time, we haven't 356 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: even hit summer yet, and the White House is already 357 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: warning us of a really bad COVID fall in winter, 358 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, you mean like the pattern we've 359 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: been doing for the last two years, Like we know 360 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: that every winter and fall is bad. So if we've 361 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: all been doing the right thing, we're in Measle's territory. 362 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: Just unpack for a bit what that actually means. Is 363 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: it fully endemic? Is it just we just get ourselves 364 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: all together, you know, in a hotel room, pop champagne 365 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: and just get COVID and then go home and get 366 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: over it. Well, you know the bad thing about this 367 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: new COVID I haven't come up with a catching nickname 368 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: for it yet, but I'll say that it's it's it's 369 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: escaping the people who have got COVID before are getting 370 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: COVID with this new COVID. People who got vaccinated are 371 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: getting this new covid. The vaccine rate that the infection 372 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,959 Speaker 1: rates are just as high in New York as they 373 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 1: are in the South. So the new COVID has figured 374 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: out a way around not just around like our own 375 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: social defenses, but also around the kind of antibody and 376 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: and T cell and other responses that we've had that 377 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: that that basically gave us memory. And so it'll be 378 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 1: interesting to see, you know, right now there's infection rates 379 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: right which are super high, and I think what we're 380 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: seeing nobody wants to admit it really is that the 381 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: vaccine is not it's not really. Of course, it's not 382 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: preventing infection. A lot of people are getting sick, people 383 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: are getting symptomatic even if they've been vaccinated. But that's 384 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: also true for people who've had COVID before. So it's 385 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: good getting around people who also have the imman response 386 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: of having COVID before. So this is like this has 387 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 1: reinvented itself to the point where it's almost like a 388 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: kind of new thing in a way, and so the 389 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: issue will be how sick are people getting right, what's 390 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: going to happen to hospitalizations, what's going to happen to deaths? 391 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: And I'd say, at least right now, at least right now, 392 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: it doesn't seem the main thing is that the early 393 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: variants attack the lungs, and anything in the Omo cron 394 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: chain does not attack the lungs. And so I think 395 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: that as long as we're in that chain, you know, 396 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: lung infection is what killed a lot of people, and 397 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: so so I don't think we're going to see the 398 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: level of death that we saw before. But it's also 399 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 1: super shit, right because what this tells us number one, 400 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: is that the virus is mutating well beyond what anybody expected, 401 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: Like people thought it would kind of fizz out by now. 402 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 1: Number two, that probably means that the pandemic, I hate 403 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: to say, this is probably going to go on for 404 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: at least another couple of years. You know. I want 405 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: to ask you this because you know, doctor Fauci, who 406 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: will probably never hear from again, is using a different 407 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: He's using different words. He's saying he had said right 408 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 1: before the White House correspondence dinner that you know, we 409 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: are entering into an endemic stage. So talk to us 410 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: about these two words, pandemic and endemic, and what if 411 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: any wrench be a point four and be a point 412 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: five the two new sub variants throw in that midst. 413 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: I mean, the best outcome is possibly what we have 414 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: right now, which is this thing is just floating out there. 415 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 1: When things are at endemic, they never go away. And 416 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 1: so um, but but but again then he remember he 417 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 1: said that it was the pandemic was over, and then 418 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 1: he recanted. I'm sorry, I miss never he can't, and 419 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: I just, you know, I laugh because I'm at a 420 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: point of delirium, Yeah, where I just don't know what 421 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: to do or say anymore. No, No, it's it's pretty funny. 422 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: I mean it's kind of not funny, but you know, 423 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: it's funny enough funny. But the thing is, he recanted, 424 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: and and so so I will say that the fall 425 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 1: is going to suck. I mean, the fall is going 426 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: to suck. And so what I can say from an 427 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: optimistic point of view unless it gets shut down by 428 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 1: the you know whatever, is that they're working on a 429 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: new broad broader vaccine, a vaccine that is at least 430 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: bi valent that will attack different parts of the covid 431 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: um virus as it infects you and stuff, not just 432 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: the spike protein. A vaccine that is more specific to omicron, 433 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: because it doesn't seem like omicron's going away, um, and 434 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: that's being tested now. There's so in the best of 435 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: all worlds, we would have a new vaccine coming out 436 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: for what's happened now the way we have flu and 437 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: it's not one hundred percent perfect and sometimes we miss 438 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: it and that kind of thing. But I sure hope 439 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: there's a new vaccine that's ready by fall that that 440 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: to me is going to be the make or break thing, 441 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: because if that's not the case, we're going to have 442 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: a horrific fall. So that does seem like DejaVu all 443 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: over again. But even in the midst of like everything 444 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: else happening and molten lava falling from the sky and 445 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, before I go to bed, I read 446 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: about the extinction of the dinosaurs now and stuff, just 447 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: to keep my spirits up and so and so, you know, 448 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: we're in that moment right where we're like, damn, look 449 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: at that fifty foot lava cloud heading toward us. For lunch, honey. 450 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: But the thing is that I do think it's going 451 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: to be make or break. Honestly, if we get this 452 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: new vaccine by fall, that's going to be a really 453 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: big deal. But I mean, if we get a new 454 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: vaccine by fall, is it going to be available to everybody? 455 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: Because the last time the White House came out and 456 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: told us that they don't have any money, that they 457 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: don't have any money to you know, to distribute to 458 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: people without insurance, to distribute you know, in mass because 459 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: Congress hasn't approved any money for them, but they're sending 460 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: all of our tax dollars to Ukraine. So I'm just wondering, like, 461 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: even if something were to become available invented, is it 462 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: going to be widely available? It really depends on what happens. 463 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: I mean. The perfect example is the flu vaccine. Right 464 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: the minute it's stopped being profitable, the minute they're stopping 465 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: like a regular customer for the flu vaccine. It took 466 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: a literally an active Congress to get them to start 467 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: making flu vaccine again. All these kind of vaccines, the 468 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: minute they stopped being profitable and the market drops, you 469 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: need government. This is where you need government. You need 470 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: government support for these kind of vaccines. And so that's 471 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: a really good question. I sure, hope. I mean they 472 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: really need to pass this COVID bill. I mean I 473 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: don't see them. I mean, I honestly don't see them 474 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: doing that. And we have midterms in six months against 475 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: a party that doesn't believe in the COVID vacs, that 476 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: doesn't believe in COVID, doesn't believe in the vaccine, definitely 477 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: doesn't believe in helping people. So if we're headed into 478 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: a bad fall politically because we have midterms, we're headed 479 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: into a bad fall because they're telling us omicron is 480 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: you know, coming on a cloud over the mountaintop. I mean, 481 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: it just sounds like we're just in a collision course. Yeah, 482 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: so I might as well just enjoy my summer, right, like, 483 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: drink as much as possible, laying the sun. Yeah, you know, 484 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: this is the summer. I mean. The frustrating part also 485 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: about that is that there's all this new there's going 486 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: to probably be a new internasal vaccine where you just like, 487 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: you know, snort a line of vaccine and you're fine. 488 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: And so I would say, you know, like there's there's 489 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: there's all this technology that's coming, so we could nip 490 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: this fucker in the bud m. But I guess I 491 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: just lost my viral moment there. But but I would 492 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: say I would say that. I would say that, you know, 493 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: we could fix this thing, and it's so prushuting. And 494 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: if they don't pass that, I mean, they really need 495 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: to pass that COVID funding thing, you know, they really, 496 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: But I'm like, it's just you know, when you said, 497 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: like we're at a point where you see the Moulten 498 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: lava cloud coming and you're like, what's for lunch? Like 499 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: this is I am laughing because I'm just like what else? Right? Like, 500 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: there's just everything is just like the only thing that 501 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: you can ask yourself is what else? What else is coming? Like? 502 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: So we're not going to get funding. You have an 503 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: impending bad fall in winter coming. The vaccines that we 504 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: currently have are not you know, are well, I guess 505 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,959 Speaker 1: maybe stop us from death, But according to the New 506 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: York Times article, it's not going to stop us from 507 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: being very sick. And to my earlier point about friends 508 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: that have evated COVID until this point and are now 509 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: getting it, I don't know what version they're getting. I 510 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: don't know if it's omicron. I don't know if it's 511 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: this new variant entered the US yet. I have no idea, 512 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: but I will say that one of my friends, it's 513 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: been eleven days. It's been eleven days, and he's like, 514 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: I am unwell, I I you know, I haven't been working. 515 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: I'm exhausted, Like you know. He's like, I got over 516 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: the fever part and the and the really bad cough 517 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: and all of that stuff. He's like, I got over 518 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: that within five and six days. He's like, but the 519 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:33,479 Speaker 1: exhaustion persists, right, And so I'm like, we already have 520 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: shortages in certain industries for workers because they're all down 521 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: with COVID, right, and we're still at this, Oh you 522 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: get down, it's five days, you come back. But if 523 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: your symptoms, it says five days unless your symptoms persist. 524 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: If now we're moving into a stage where these new 525 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: sub variants are producing symptoms, we're not even lucking out 526 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: in that way where it's just like, oh, yeah, I'm 527 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: good and I've negative. It's like we're in a hole. 528 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: Am I wrong to say that we're moving into a 529 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: whole different side of the forest now? And which side 530 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: would that feed? The mean side with quicksand in it. 531 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: Remember the forest from the Princess Bride, that's the forest 532 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I uh, I mean really, 533 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: first of all, was pretty cute there, but no, I um, 534 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: you know, I'll just I'll just quote mister McConnell. This 535 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 1: is our summer of glory. Hole. Um, you know, this 536 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 1: is our summer. This is our summer to enjoy ourselves. Um, 537 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: this is our summer to to to really um because man, 538 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 1: the ship storm is coming, it really is. And so 539 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: and and again it's so frustrating because like we're so 540 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: better equipped for this thing right now than we were 541 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: three years ago in terms of what we know. Um. 542 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: So no, I worry about that too. I mean I 543 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: think that this is a virus that then lives in 544 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,280 Speaker 1: your body for your whole life. And so of course 545 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 1: people are going to have long term symptoms. Of course 546 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: they're going to have exhaustion. And and the first rating 547 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: thing is it's it's like the flu, Like it's like 548 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: you can get it every year, but it's like it's 549 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: much you know, it's obviously much more dangerous than the flu. Also, 550 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 1: so yeah, so I don't know quicksands a good analogy. 551 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: But so the last question that I want to ask you, 552 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: you know, and I've been really thinking about this, and 553 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: I just you know, we've hit over a million people 554 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: in this country have died in two years. And you know, 555 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 1: outside of the initial tribute that was done when right 556 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: before the Biden administration began in twenty twenty one, there 557 00:35:53,640 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: has been no memorial, no nationwide day of more that 558 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: has even been named to recognize the fact that a 559 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:08,280 Speaker 1: million souls, over a million souls in this country have perished. 560 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: What do you think that that says about our mental health, 561 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 1: our empathy, our emotional contextualization of how this virus has 562 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: impacted our lives. Partially, it's because this thing is still happening, 563 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: and so there's no like it's still we're still in it. 564 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't seem like it because half people 565 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,439 Speaker 1: aren't paying attention, but we're still in it. And which 566 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: makes a memorial day. Now, I think that's actually an 567 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,879 Speaker 1: excellent idea. I think we should have a national day 568 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: of COVID memorial every year. I think that that's something that, yeah, 569 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:49,399 Speaker 1: we should do. And it's funny to think about those 570 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: early remember everybody stayed at home. We had a Zoom 571 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: concert with Lady Gaga and Elton John and it was like, 572 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: we're all in this together, and like six months later 573 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 1: we're like, ag fu yourself. You know. It's it was 574 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: just kind of like, So, I do think that there 575 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 1: needs to be something to mark this. I really do. Now. 576 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 1: The problem is number one, it's still ongoing. Number two, 577 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: we don't know what it is or where it's going. 578 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 1: And number three, a million is just an incomprehensible number 579 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: for most people, and so you know, I just so 580 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,720 Speaker 1: many people and families have been impacted by this. But again, 581 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: the issue, of course is as it goes on this long, 582 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: and it's airborne, and it's changing, and expert knowledge lasts 583 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 1: about as long as a variant, and then it becomes 584 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: a conspiracy. So it would be awesome if there was 585 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: some kind of unity around this. It would be awesome 586 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,240 Speaker 1: to imagine what that is. Just given our political system, 587 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 1: I can't see that, but I would totally support a 588 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 1: national day like that. I think that's a great idea. Yeah, 589 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: I just think, you know, we are at a point 590 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: where every single one of us know somebody that has 591 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: died of COVID, and so given given that reality, the 592 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 1: fact that we just continue to press on like all 593 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 1: is normal, like there hasn't like we're not still living 594 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: inside of a plague. You know. I watched a segment 595 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: of sixty Minutes where they were interviewing middle schoolers who's 596 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: you know, their attempts at suicide have skyrocketed, right, their 597 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: emotional like and their emotional well being is fucking shot. 598 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,800 Speaker 1: And we're not even paying attention to the pandemics within 599 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 1: the pandemic, which is about our mental health, you know, 600 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,839 Speaker 1: And the fact that we're still we still expect kids 601 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,399 Speaker 1: to go to school and learn, we still expect people 602 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 1: to go to work, and like, the lack of acknowledgement 603 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 1: around what we continue to go through, I think is 604 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,800 Speaker 1: another form of gaslight, right, Like we're already being politically 605 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: gas lit by the Republican cult Party, and then you're 606 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 1: being gas lit here where it's like the lack of 607 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: acknowledgement to me, just goes to reinforce the fact that 608 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 1: this was not a big deal, right and and I 609 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 1: and I'm like, is there an opportunity and what does 610 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: that opportunity look like? You know, to to collectively mourn 611 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,839 Speaker 1: and acknowledge what we've been through. I mean, so I 612 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. We lost so much when 613 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 1: we when we politicize this thing, we lost right there. 614 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: And just wait for it to get worse. I'll tell 615 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 1: you that. That's another prediction of mine. If the Republicans 616 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: win the midterms, just wait for two years of China 617 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,839 Speaker 1: bashing and blaming other people and projecting and not reflecting 618 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,399 Speaker 1: and not mourning and all this kind of thing. So, 619 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,320 Speaker 1: you know, anger and projection is the kind of defense 620 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: mechanism of the decade. And so I think, unfortunately, we're 621 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 1: going to see this pandemic politicize in a whole new 622 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 1: way if they take over after the mid terms, and 623 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: it'll just make that sense of despair worse. It's been 624 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 1: the case from the beginning. Everybody just wanted somebody to 625 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 1: get angry at because the thought that you can just 626 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: breathe and catch something and die is so incomprehensible. 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