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Speaker 2: Going perfect weather for it. How about it? Order zips

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Speaker 3: Where would the ball go in the mud muck. I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna get some rain on fright now.

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Speaker 2: I'm good. I do like obviously for us.

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Speaker 3: Since the Cleveland brown season has been over for a

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Speaker 3: few weeks, I love that, you know, now you got

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Speaker 3: the Senior Bowl and you're getting people top, you know, really.

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Speaker 2: Starting to get some draft content turning out with it.

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Speaker 2: For us is that's what that's what we're all about

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Speaker 2: I and we'll have some of that Senior Bowl stuff

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Speaker 2: for you. I have just experienced in the last two

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Speaker 2: days we had seventh grade basketball, and this will come

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Speaker 2: full circle, I promise. In the game we played on

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Speaker 2: Monday night, this is seventh grade. Seventh grade, there was

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Speaker 2: a an up and down and up and down and

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Speaker 2: an up back and forth transition offense to defense where

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Speaker 2: our opposition played with six players. Excuse me, it feels helpful.

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Speaker 2: One point, like NBC had the ball at the point

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Speaker 2: and they're like, he's.

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Speaker 4: Like wait, and there were two guys on him, and

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Speaker 4: everybody else was covered, and everyone screaming, there's six guys

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Speaker 4: on the field, on the court, they have six and

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Speaker 4: the poor officials didn't see it, didn't hear it.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea, Like all you to do is

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Speaker 2: just look and just count and be like, wait a

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Speaker 2: second too many?

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: The opposing coach got the sixth player off the court

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Speaker 2: before anybody noticed. Before the referees. The old gym noticed, everybody,

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Speaker 2: the players noticed. Our coach has noticed all of that.

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Speaker 2: But there are two referees fisted and back and back.

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Speaker 3: If I was on the socials, I would say, what

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Speaker 3: are they the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: Is that their team game. That's it getting all the

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Speaker 2: calls and all the calls. Last night in the eighth

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Speaker 2: grade game which followed ours, there's a situation where one

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Speaker 2: of our kids, there's a ball on the ground. One

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Speaker 2: of our kids jumped on the ball. Our coach signals

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Speaker 2: for a time out. Excellent, young coach. He was not

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Speaker 2: awarded that time out. Yep. At that point, the opposing

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Speaker 2: team jumps on the ball. And now you have a

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Speaker 2: very clear jump ball scenario where okay, you missed the timeout.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why, but we got to jump ball.

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Speaker 2: No whistle, the two players roll out of bounds eventinitely,

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Speaker 2: people running the clock, just stop the clock. There was

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Speaker 2: never a whistle at no point.

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Speaker 3: So the coach on the other team goes jump ball,

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Speaker 3: blue ball, and they.

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Speaker 2: Go blue ball. I guess that's just it. Like away

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Speaker 2: we go so amateurs, we well, we complain about the

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Speaker 2: officiating at the very highest level. Uh And obviously that's

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Speaker 2: with an expectation there's a huge compensation all of that.

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Speaker 2: I don't feel, you know, these these two fellas, you know.

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Speaker 3: Quite frankly, should be bigger compensation and they should be

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Speaker 2: And that's what I want to get into. What is

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Speaker 2: the worst call that you can ever remember being missed?

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Speaker 2: The one by Soon's buddy the Seattle Was it Seattle?

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Speaker 2: Green Bay? Seattle, Green Bay? Lance? I think is his name? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Where he called it? Yeah? Ye, hold on, I'll look

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Speaker 6: You talk about the replacement officials, Yes, yeah, I would.

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Speaker 6: I would say the Ram Saints NFC championship, right.

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Speaker 2: But that changed the passer made pass interference changed? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but this one was hold on Lance official. Let's see

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Speaker 2: Seahawks packers? Was it Seahawks?

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Speaker 3: I believe it was the call heard round the world?

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Speaker 2: Lance Easily lives with blown call became infamous.

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Speaker 3: Oh man like al Guapo a controversial touchdown call during

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Speaker 3: a Nashley televised game on Monday Night Football. He received

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Speaker 3: death threats. All but Santa Maria, So he was it's unreal. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so he calls it a touchdown?

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Speaker 2: Right? Is that what it is?

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Speaker 3: Santa Marie and Lance Easily So that's where Vince knows

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Speaker 3: near San Luis Obispo. Became the most hated man in

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Speaker 3: American sports. Said for a year, was it's gone that

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Speaker 3: it still lasted? This was back then classic Hill Mary

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Speaker 3: play Wilson launched a pigskin with the hope one of

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Speaker 3: his receivers that come down the ball instead, Seahawk Golden

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Speaker 3: Tate and Packer Greg Jennings ended up fiercely grappling for it,

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Speaker 2: That means that Greg Jennings was out there.

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Speaker 3: Playing defense for the Packers, Yeah, where Golden Tate was

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Speaker 3: out there. So this articles already full of just things

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Speaker 3: are difficult COMPREHENSI says earlier, with less than two minutes

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Speaker 3: off in the game, green Bay trailed the Seahawks twelve seven.

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Speaker 3: Easily can recall every second lead up to the moment.

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Speaker 3: So if the Green Bay trailed, then they were the

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Speaker 3: ones throwing the ball. Something's wrong in that. Nonetheless, the

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Speaker 3: call was he obviously blew it. They went up there

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Speaker 3: no record of simultaneous possession. Mary said, blah blah blah,

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Speaker 3: and he blew it. That was the one that went going.

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Speaker 3: He went like viral, He went all over the place.

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Speaker 2: The one that I remember was in baseball there was

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Speaker 2: to say gal Raga okay, and they he was verily

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Speaker 2: clearly thrown out at first and he ruled him safe

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Speaker 2: and it blew up the no the perfect game. It

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Speaker 2: wasn't a no hitter. It was a perfect game. I

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Speaker 2: want to say, Jim Joyce.

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Speaker 6: Okay, was the umpire onic yea against us?

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Speaker 2: Is that right? Yep? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: What's that like fifteen years ago? keV something like that? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: absolutely quickly.

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Speaker 2: Ten Yeah. And then Galarraga actually made it okay because

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Speaker 2: he went and like hugged him the next day like

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Speaker 2: he did the olive branch. But the guy really blew it.

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Speaker 2: So this is an ESPN article about it.

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Speaker 3: So it turns out the Seahawks were trailing twelve to

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Speaker 3: the local paper, just like the calm.

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Speaker 2: Nonetheless, that's hilarious.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, bad call. I think the Rams the rant. The

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Speaker 3: pass interference is in some ways as a judgement call.

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Speaker 2: It was a horrible with like they just completely.

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Speaker 3: Missed the call, whereas this was just the wrong one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's been and Historically, there's been some crazy things

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Speaker 2: that have happened with officiating, like most famously Colorado the

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Speaker 2: year they won the national championship in nineteen ninety, they

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Speaker 2: played a game against Missouri with five downs, and the

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Speaker 2: to share of the national title. And night who was

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Speaker 2: ain Essay was the quarterback. Remember his TC McCartney was here.

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Speaker 2: That was his son. Yeah, Bill McCartney, who was the

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Speaker 2: had a decently long NFL career that was on that team.

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Speaker 2: But they want a share of the national title in

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety and part of that is they had a

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Speaker 3: That's the most successful Colorado team ever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean win the national title. They've got two heismans.

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Speaker 2: The Salalon on the four and then Travis Hunter. Now,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, you win the national title.

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Speaker 3: That's pretty Yeah, where did did where Cordell's toeurt go Colorado?

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Speaker 2: But he was on the team with Rashon Salons and

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Speaker 2: they did not. That's amazing that that team did not win.

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Speaker 3: Well, they ran into a little program called Nebraska. As

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Speaker 3: it turns out, Tommy Fraser, Tommy Fraser, Lawrence Phillips in

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Speaker 3: Nebraska was arguably the greatest college football team of all time.

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Speaker 2: And Osborne. Yeah, that was Colorado's best team in ninety five.

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Speaker 2: They played Nebraska that year. It was two top teams

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Speaker 2: and Nebraska. That's why I was asking because I remember

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Speaker 3: Was like Michael west Michael Westbrook was a receiver. Kah, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's really talented team.

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Speaker 2: Where's Celine Dion? It's all coming back.

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Speaker 3: College football Nate sit after still firing, College football Nate

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Speaker 3: still going.

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Speaker 2: Probably was better in that era.

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Speaker 3: Maybe certainly college basketball Nate was pretty money from mid

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the game changed.

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Speaker 3: Now, I'm not sure I could name one player in

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Speaker 2: It's really good. There is, Yes, he is quite good.

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Speaker 3: Cliff Carl Hagen La Floor Flag Flatoper Cooper Flooper. There

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Speaker 3: you go, There you go, nailed it. That's the only

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Speaker 3: person I know in college from the state of Maine,

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Speaker 3: from the state of Maine, the home of lobsters and

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Speaker 3: the samrset. It's very good, very much, big fan of it.

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah.

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Speaker 2: I watched the Little College soroups last night. Watched Little

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Speaker 2: Kentucky and Tennessee great passion locked in. It was fun.

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Speaker 2: Are we were at Kentucky last year and it's right

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Speaker 2: NBC and I were and we were at practice. I

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Speaker 2: don't I'm pretty sure there's not a single player off

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Speaker 2: of that last year's Kentucky teams on this one's wild.

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Speaker 2: I think Cala Perry took the ones he wanted to Arkansas,

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Speaker 2: one of them at Ohio State. But this is a

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Speaker 2: it's a whole new roster. It's yeah, it's year to year.

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Speaker 3: Man, it's wild. Yeah, too much. I like the continuity.

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Speaker 3: I loved when you had when you had awesome teams

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Speaker 3: get I can think of, you know, some of Gibe's

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Speaker 3: great duke teams.

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Speaker 3: Some some seniors like I would say, like a Thomas Davis.

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Speaker 2: Well when they won there, when they won the national championship,

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Speaker 2: when they beat UH, when they beat UNLV in the

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Speaker 2: final four. They were all seniors, that weren't they well

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Speaker 2: with one freshman who just happened to be Grant Hill.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like we're granted Yeah, no, they Bobby Hurley Hill.

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Speaker 2: That was a formidable freshman that.

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Speaker 2: A good squad, Greg Kuebec, Yeah, yeah, great squad. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think what you could get if college basketball could

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Speaker 2: like Shaquille O'Neil played three years at l s U.

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Speaker 3: So he's like, don't come at me with this narrative.

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Speaker 3: But we got it on that. Catherine O'Hara so good,

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Speaker 3: And the Thriller season when he comes sprinting in and

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Speaker 2: No, it's very good.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's great. You haven't seen it. Highly recommended around

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Speaker 2: the league. Presented by Lee Filter Official gutterguardy or Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy will not coach anywhere in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 7: A national reporter that had posted this story like all

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think he's just he's going to the

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Speaker 2: He's done that already. Peter King is my guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: We do have some updates from the Senior Bowl in

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Speaker 6: this segment, yes, or in this show in the show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, do we talk about some of the struggles

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Speaker 3: that were out there, but we can.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So I think that was the big takeaway I had

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Speaker 3: yesterday is Jilehn Milroe is very much a work in progress.

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Speaker 3: I saw a stat from John Costco, our old friend, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: old Johnny, Hey, Johnny, from a Pro Football Focus, thirty

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Speaker 3: three percent of Jalen Milroe's passes that were more five

446
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Speaker 3: yards or more down the field were uncatchable. That was

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Speaker 3: the highest of any quarterback in Buddy that FBS.

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Speaker 2: I mean that right there laid all this out.

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Speaker 3: Well we know that, but I mean there's a lot

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Speaker 3: of people out there connecting dots that just because Tommy

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Speaker 3: Reese happened to be the OC at Alabama that we're

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Speaker 3: taking Jalen Milroe now apparently in the top five. I

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Speaker 3: don't think that's he's gonna be a top five pick. No,

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Speaker 3: And watching that, the general contentsus was it was a

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Speaker 3: very concerning performance at one point and this I haven't verified,

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Speaker 3: but this was, you know, word of mouth was at

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Speaker 3: one point he missed eight straight and one on ones.

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Speaker 2: I mean, can't happen. His He is somebody who you

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Speaker 2: have ultimate respect for as a competitor, ultimate respect for

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Speaker 2: what they've done offensively the last two years. But he

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Speaker 2: didn't have a ton of weapons. Ryan Williams, the true

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Speaker 2: freshman down there, is just a wrung below Jeremiah Smith,

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Speaker 2: and he will be a top five to ten pick

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Speaker 2: when he comes out. With Jeremia Smith in two years

465
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Speaker 2: will be the next receiver off the board. So they

466
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Speaker 2: have a ton of weapons. The run game wasn't great.

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Speaker 2: So he's a one man show and he ran it.

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Speaker 2: He threw it. He's got a big arm. Not accurate,

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Speaker 2: But it goes back to if you listen to Andrew

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Speaker 2: Berry yesterday, if you listen to NFL folks at large,

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Speaker 2: the number the first two things you hear are the

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Speaker 2: number one thing is accurate. You've got to be accurate,

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Speaker 2: and he isn't accurate. If you don't complete close to

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Speaker 2: seventy percent of your passes in college football, you're not

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Speaker 2: going to be anywhere near that in professional football. He

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Speaker 2: was seventeen eleven i think touchdown to interception last year

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Speaker 2: and was just over a sixty percent passer. Now he

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Speaker 2: ran for another seven hundred yards. I'm not suggesting that

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Speaker 2: he can't continue to grow. Where he came from two

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Speaker 2: years ago as a quarterback to what he became over

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Speaker 2: the last two years and what potentially could be in

482
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Speaker 2: the pros are very different things. I think he took

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Speaker 2: advantage of a perceived week quarterback class and the opportunity

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Speaker 2: to maybe try to be the third quarterback in this class.

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Speaker 2: That's what he's going for here, and he's hoping that

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Speaker 2: his ability to run the football and make plays out

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Speaker 2: of structure, similar to that of Jalen Hurts when he

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Speaker 2: came out of Oklahoma. Is something that in the right circumstances,

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Speaker 2: he can thrive. Alright, I'm just gonna do this real quickly,

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Speaker 2: all right.

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Speaker 3: So Milroe's best season was sixty five percent completions, twenty

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Speaker 3: three touchdowns, six picks Tommy. That was with Tommy two

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Speaker 3: years ago. His best running season was this pass, which

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Speaker 3: was seven hundred and twenty six yards only four point

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Speaker 3: three yards of carry, but twenty touchdowns. So that's quite

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Speaker 3: that's a large number of touchdowns. I just wanted to

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Speaker 3: you mention Hurts and these are we're going to get

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Speaker 3: into different years where things are going to be a

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Speaker 3: little bit different. Hurts his last two seasons at Alabama

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Speaker 3: were seventy three percent and seventy percent completions. So his

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Speaker 3: best season was seventy three percent completions. He threw four

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Speaker 3: thirty two touchdowns, eight picks, and people the knock on

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Speaker 3: him was that he couldn't throw.

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Speaker 2: Let's remember that. They also just a quick interjection, that

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Speaker 2: is DeVante's Smith, Henry Ruggs, Jerry Judy, Jayalen Waddle, Like

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Speaker 2: that's that receiving crew. He also was that time. He

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Speaker 2: also was.

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Speaker 3: He also ran. He also ran. This is now his

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Speaker 3: Oklahoma season. Those are actually his Oklahoma numbers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's when he went to quarterback finishing school. YEP.

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Speaker 3: Sixty nine point seven complete completion, thirty eight fifty one,

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Speaker 3: thirty two touchdowns, eight picks. He ran for twelve ninety

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Speaker 3: eight twenty touchdowns and five point six yards carry, So

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Speaker 3: he is bested mill Roe significantly in every single one

515
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Speaker 3: of those categories. Yep, every single one of those categories.

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Speaker 3: The other person I've heard him compared to, which is

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Speaker 3: who he really loved, was Lamar Jackson. Now, lamar best

518
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Speaker 3: season was sixty percent passing three six six zero, twenty

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Speaker 3: seven touchdowns, ten picks, and Lamar running was sixteen hundred

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Speaker 3: and one yards six point nine yards of carry, twenty

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Speaker 3: one touchdowns in his best rushing season. So when you're

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Speaker 3: talking about a runner, Hurts was five to six, Lamar

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Speaker 3: was six ' nine, So he's not those either of

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Speaker 3: those guys as a runner.

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Speaker 2: No, he did their offense this year. He did all

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Speaker 2: the short yardage work, so he was there sure yardage

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Speaker 2: back and I think that probably could have brought his

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Speaker 2: rush numbers down. He was at times like they operated

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Speaker 2: him almost like a single wing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it hurts like one man wildcat hurts.

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Speaker 3: For his career was five point three yards of carry,

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Speaker 3: so every single year, yeah, was about five. Lamar for

533
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Speaker 3: his career was way beyond that. Milro's rushing yards per

534
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Speaker 3: season three point eight. He had in twenty twenty two

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Speaker 3: and eight games eight point five yards of carry, then

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Speaker 3: three point three, then four point three, so he's four

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Speaker 3: point two for his career.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: So it just that's a different level. He's on that

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Speaker 3: level of right, So there's not a whole lot there

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Speaker 3: from that standpoint that gives you those guys vibes when

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Speaker 3: you hear that kind of as the comparison.

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Speaker 2: Just watch him play, if you just watching folks watching play,

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Speaker 2: it's just not a fit for what Kevin wants to do,

545
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Speaker 2: just isn't. I mean, it's if you watch him play,

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Speaker 2: Oh baby, dude, look at that. Yes, Wow, that that's

547
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Speaker 2: that's huge. Warm, that's huge.

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Speaker 3: Not gonna keep me warm, but that is a huge, wonderful,

549
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Speaker 3: wonderful thing. Now, Shadour and he guesses on his rushing totals.

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Speaker 2: I'd say probably around three or four hundred.

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Speaker 3: Well, because you also remember these numbers that we gave,

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Speaker 3: these are college rushing numbers, which include sacks. So when

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Speaker 3: Lamar rushes for sixteen hundred and one yards and six

554
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Speaker 3: point nine of carry, every time he was sacked counted

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Speaker 3: against total shador one hundred attempts, negative fifty yards rushing

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Speaker 3: because of his because well.

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Speaker 2: It sacks he took. So Mandy, he took a lot

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Speaker 2: of sacks. Yeah, he would have thought, Yeah he didn't.

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Speaker 2: I I wouldn't have had it that obviously, as I

560
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Speaker 2: just guessed three hundred.

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Speaker 3: The year before it was negative seventy seven. So he

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Speaker 3: has one negative one hundred and twenty seven yards rushing

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Speaker 3: for his college college career.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so like Lamar veraging sixteen, that's what I was saying.

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Speaker 2: With like his he would he kept pockets longer than

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Speaker 2: they probably needed to be trying to make plays. Yep.

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Speaker 2: And that gets you.

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Speaker 6: That stat line that certainly he has on that side

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Speaker 6: of things.

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Speaker 2: So there you go.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: We've also signed running back Troy Harson to reserve future

573
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Speaker 2: so full back out of Central Michigan. His third year

574
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Speaker 2: saw two games act with the Texans. Last season, full we.

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Speaker 3: Need fullbacks, we need tight ends. We're back baby, or

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Speaker 3: back dude. We're so back full back full back. Remember

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Speaker 3: when we when Kevin first took the job. Yeah, we

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Speaker 3: went out and we got uh Andy Janovic. Yeah, big fullback,

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Speaker 3: big full back Hairson five to eleven, two forty five.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 3: Never received a carry in his NFL career in eighteen games,

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Speaker 3: but he has five catches for nineteen yards.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 2: tournament with the logos, right, wasn't that there talked about

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Speaker 2: to pull it up.

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I see Mile High Brown's back there. Yeah, let's schedule

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Speaker 2: Denver skyline the Rocky mountains in the back and then

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, solid, The boulder one's good, boulders great sent us,

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Speaker 3: that the I love the South Euclid one with the horns.

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Speaker 2: Montreal has a good one. Montreal, I want to say,

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Speaker 2: Also Jackson Dart, who's a quarterback you should be maybe

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Speaker 8: He is the assistant head coach of the Browns down here, however,

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Speaker 5: I thought it went well.

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Speaker 9: The guys showed and I would say, really really good effort.

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Speaker 9: A lot of them haven't been out here in quite

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Speaker 9: you know, relatively high, you know, for the volume that.

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Speaker 8: A lot of competition this week. It's all about competition.

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Speaker 8: I want to go fast forward to the end of

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Speaker 8: practice just now from Villanova where you went to school.

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Speaker 8: You were calling guys out for one on one drills

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Speaker 8: and you kind of did it ring announcer style. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: tell me about that.

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Speaker 9: Honestly, Like there's times throughout the season where you know,

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Speaker 9: most times it happens on the night before a game

654
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 9: where I like to change up my team meeting that night,

655
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 9: or really my special teams meeting, and there I'll introduce

656
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 9: guys like they're going into a fight, because ultimately that's

657
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 9: what it is. Just makes those guys, you know, get

658
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 9: into the game a little bit more a little bit

659
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 9: and it create a little bit of energy. And I

660
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 9: felt like we had that at the end of practice

661
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 9: before we.

662
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Speaker 8: Get to the Browns when we'll talk about you personally,

663
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 8: you're smiling, right, I saw about energy out there. What

664
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 8: do you personally get out of this, because no doubt,

665
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 8: I'm sure you want to be a head coach one day.

666
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 8: Like what does this do for you?

667
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 9: You know, honestly, like just the ability to have to

668
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 9: put together a plan for the week with a staff,

669
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 9: a game plan, you know, playbooks, everything, top the bottom.

670
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 9: You just and you appreciate how hard the job is.

671
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 9: Kevin does an extremely good job. A lot of the

672
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,959
Speaker 9: things that I'm using this week are really mirrored off

673
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 9: of what he does because I think he does a

674
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 9: terrific job. So just trying to do the best of

675
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 9: my ability and you know, hopefully at some point that'll happen.

676
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 8: And big picture you mentioned Kevin, let's talk about what

677
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 8: it means for the Browns. He is down here, he

678
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 8: was on the sideline watching practice. Andrew Berry is here,

679
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 8: Glenn Cook is here, Kat Hickman is here, the whole

680
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 8: squad is here. But you are in the meetings, you

681
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 8: are on the field with this team. How valuable is

682
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 8: that intelligence as we work towards the draft?

683
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 5: It truly isn't valuable.

684
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Speaker 9: I mean just to be able to have the one

685
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 9: on one interactions with these players, not only on the

686
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 9: field obviously that we're out here for practice, but seeing

687
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 9: them in the meeting rooms, seeing them interact with each

688
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 9: other in the meal rooms. You do gain a lot

689
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 9: of information from that which is going to obviously be

690
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 9: helpful for us to be able to bring the right

691
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 9: players we need into our building.

692
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 8: So what does that process look like? Do you guys

693
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 8: have a text change you confab every night?

694
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 9: I have had text with AB and Kevin about guys

695
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 9: that were already interested in in guys that I need

696
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 9: to put a little bit sharper of an eye on.

697
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 9: But honestly, like I watched my entire roster in detail

698
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 9: before I got down here. I pretty much told or

699
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 9: asked Kevin and a B like, if I'm gonna do this,

700
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 9: I need to be like all in so you know,

701
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 9: just understand, like, I'm not gonna be putting a lot

702
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 9: of work towards the Browns in the next week and

703
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 9: a half. So I feel like I have a really

704
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 9: good feel for the roster, and you know, I pretty

705
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 9: much know everybody and what they've done this past year.

706
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 8: As luck would have with the quarterbacks that I think

707
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 8: most fans are interested in are the ones that are

708
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 8: on your team, notably Jalen Milroe and Jackson Dard. I

709
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 8: know it's only one day, right, and there's not a

710
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 8: lot of data so far. Early impressions. Let's go Jalen

711
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 8: Milroe first. What do you think I think?

712
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 9: I mean, look, his tape speaks for itself. I mean,

713
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 9: he's a ridiculous athlete that can run. Obviously, he's he's

714
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 9: a he's a strong arm. I think that he's done

715
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 9: a solid job in the limited time that I've seen

716
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 9: with them. And you understand too, we haven't had a

717
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 9: lot of time with these guys in meetings. We've been

718
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 9: here since Saturday. The players have only been here since Sundays.

719
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 9: So I think, you know, in a small sample size,

720
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 9: he's done a really.

721
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 8: Good job and a lot of it, like even on

722
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 8: day one is like, hey, what do you take from install?

723
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 8: What can you actually put that on the field? And

724
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 8: how do you process that?

725
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 10: Right?

726
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 9: Yeah, and it's I mean even still, it's the first

727
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 9: time we've had the coach the player communication with the

728
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 9: walkie talkies. I mean the first time we've had it

729
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 9: was on the field in practice and half the players

730
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 9: weren't working right away, so that was an adjustment we

731
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 9: had to make.

732
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 5: But I thought, you know, I think they've done a

733
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 5: really good job.

734
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 8: How about Jackson Dart.

735
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 9: Jackson notice noticeably has what like has this type of

736
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 9: like swagger to him.

737
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 5: He's very confident, instinctive thrower.

738
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 9: We had a couple of mishap with the with the

739
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 9: quarterback center exchange today, which is obviously expected. In the

740
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 9: first practice you haven't have worked with the center. But

741
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 9: I think we'll clean those things up as we goes along,

742
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 9: and obviously we're hoping for a better product in that regard,

743
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 9: and then obviously a lot of plays at the end

744
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 9: of the week.

745
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, it's through with the quarterback center exchange thing.

746
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 8: I mean, you've heard stories about how quarterbacks get to

747
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,439
Speaker 8: these All Star Games, and none of them have ever

748
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 8: taken a snap from under cent.

749
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 9: Yeah, and honestly, like I know, you know, Ole miss,

750
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 9: they typically run a lot of their stuff out of

751
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 9: the gun. So that's obviously going to be an adjustment

752
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,479
Speaker 9: and he's gonna and I thought he did a pretty

753
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 9: good job overall today in that in that regard, So.

754
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 8: How important to you talked about the thing at the end,

755
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 8: but just a one on one drills in general, to

756
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 8: see the best on the best, to see how whether

757
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 8: it's pat and go, whether it's the old line, D line,

758
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 8: whatever it is. How important are those matchups?

759
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think you want to be able to see

760
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 9: guys going against different body types, different types of matchups.

761
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 9: I think that that gives you the ability to see

762
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 9: different skill sets against other guys, you know, strengths. But

763
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 9: I think that overall, I thought our coaches prepared well.

764
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 9: I thought that the practice was pretty organized overall, but

765
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 9: excited to watch the film back, make the corrections and

766
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 9: come out here and have a cleaner practice tomorrow.

767
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 8: And see how it gets from day one today, two, today, three, Yeah,

768
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 8: and builds. Last thing. I know your speech or your

769
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 8: your first meeting was all about staying as a team here,

770
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 8: right and kind of building a team. Have you thought

771
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 8: about what your Friday night speech is going to be

772
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 8: yet before the game?

773
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 5: I have not.

774
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 2: I have not.

775
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 5: I have not decided.

776
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 9: I usually don't make that decision until about like on

777
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 9: a normal week, like a Thursday, so that would be

778
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 9: really like tomorrow, and I like to feel out, you know,

779
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,919
Speaker 9: what we've gone through throughout the week, and a lot

780
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 9: of times I'll dictate the plan toward what I'm doing,

781
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 9: so you know, I'll probably fill you in since it's

782
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 9: not since it's not a Browns game, we'll give you

783
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 9: a little bit of insight to what's going on.

784
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 8: Enjoy all the Reese's peanut butter cups you can eat

785
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,439
Speaker 8: and enjoy that too many.

786
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: Thanks.

787
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 5: Appreciate it, Thank you appreciate it.

788
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 2: So I wonder if they have pieces or just cups

789
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 2: in abundance down there in the Reese's Senior Bowl. I'm

790
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 2: a pieces man, me too. Big pieces, Yeah, big pieces. Yeah,

791
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 2: they're just right there, They're right there. The mouthfeel oh

792
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 2: my god. I can't we even talk about it, can't

793
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 2: talk about it.

794
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 3: I'm it's a devastating blow.

795
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: I don't even understand it. I don't get it. I

796
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 2: don't understand why this got lost in the mix of

797
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 2: last week. We had so much going on, I know,

798
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: and then I was gone, gone to no.

799
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 3: Chance to discuss it. But the coveted ice cream is

800
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 3: no more discontinued. The best ice cream I've ever had

801
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 3: in forty six years on planet Earth discontinued and it

802
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 3: was sold. If we were selling it out everywhere, people

803
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 3: look like nuts, what are you gonna do with all

804
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 3: this to worry about it?

805
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 2: Don't worry about it now it's gold. It's sober, dude.

806
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 3: Like the gone is it al the sores already where

807
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 3: I was it was gone.

808
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 2: Don't get Yeah, I don't want to, you know, I

809
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 2: don't want to tip off anymore. But like sad deal.

810
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 3: What the heck, man, It's the best ice cream I've

811
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 3: ever had in my.

812
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 2: Everybody that I gave it to was like, oh, this

813
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 2: is nuts.

814
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 3: I had a friend, the great, the Great Niche, who

815
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 3: wrote me a handwritten note thanking me for bringing him

816
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 3: the Hudson villain, saying, that's one thing you love about

817
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 3: our friendship is that I could deliver any things and

818
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,959
Speaker 3: then deliver something that brought such joy. Yeah, it's over,

819
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 3: out of stock, It's over, dude.

820
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: It's crazy. My last batch has got ruined with the

821
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 2: great freezer melted.

822
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 3: I have one one left, and I've stopped having a

823
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 3: spoon and night because I just I feel like a bad,

824
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 3: bad bad One of the things that one of the

825
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 3: players who's off to a decent start down in Mobile

826
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 3: at the Senior Bow at the quarterback position is Ole

827
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 3: Miss quarterback Jackson Dart.

828
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 2: Let's listen to his media availability from day one at

829
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 2: the Senior Bowl. When's the last time you got to

830
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 2: snap under center?

831
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 11: I mean in our last game, so I would say,

832
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 11: like my second last play at college football.

833
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 2: So is that something that you feel comfortable doing?

834
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure.

835
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 11: I mean, you know, some of the centers here have

836
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 11: never played center before, so just getting work with them,

837
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 11: and then also you know it's just time, you know,

838
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 11: building that chemistry, so we'll we get at it.

839
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 3: How difficult is it trying to acclimate to new receivers

840
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 3: as you're trying to learn the new language of the

841
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 3: scheme that you utilize in this week?

842
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean there's always an adjustment period anytime you

843
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 11: get into a new system and learn new things with

844
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 11: new guys. So you know, it's just going to clean

845
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 11: its way out the rest this week and really excited

846
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:45,439
Speaker 11: to get to work.

847
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 5: And these guys out here awesome, So it's a lot

848
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 5: of fun playing with them.

849
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 12: What about even your steps like giving the running back

850
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 12: right under center, doing some zone steps and stretch stuff.

851
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: How was that trying to communicate that?

852
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 3: Because a lot of those backs they've been taking their

853
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 3: stuff from gone.

854
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:58,959
Speaker 2: They hadn't had any under center runs in a while.

855
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think we did really good job today of

856
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 11: walking through a lot of these plays before and just

857
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 11: walking through the footwork of everything in the landmarks. These

858
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 11: backs are super talented, so it's a lot of fun

859
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 11: to watch them run and they do a lot of

860
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 11: explosive things.

861
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, appreciate it.

862
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 5: What was so important for you to be here this week?

863
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 11: I mean, obviously just be around you know, great talent,

864
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 11: have great exposure. It was a no brainer for me,

865
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 11: So I was just really looking forward to it. It's

866
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 11: a great environment and I'm really excited to continue to learn.

867
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 6: Jackson, what are you trying to showcase about your your

868
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 6: game this week?

869
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 11: I mean, I feel like everything that I need to

870
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 11: show is on tape. So it's more just like getting

871
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 11: accimated to the NFL systems, being around the NFL coaches

872
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 11: and just learning and uh, you know, finding my way

873
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 11: of being uncomfortable and performing at the same time.

874
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Speaker 5: So, uh, just really forwards the opportunity.

875
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 6: The Browns.

876
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 5: You know, you're i mean coach cheer by Baba Ventrom.

877
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 5: The Browns have the number to overall pick. What kind

878
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 5: of a.

879
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 2: Unique opportunity is it to be able to showcase yourself

880
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 2: in part everything?

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00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, absolutely.

882
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 11: Like I said, this was a no brainer for uh

883
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 11: me and I'm sure a lot of guys to come

884
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 11: here just to be in the situations that like that.

885
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 5: And Bubba has been so great.

886
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 11: It's been awesome to be around him and his energy

887
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 11: is super contagious, and yeah, I could definitely see him

888
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 11: being a head coach one day. But it's a lot

889
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 11: of fun and it's wonderful to learn from him.

890
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 6: Actually being an old miss guy.

891
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 2: What's your connection in your relationship with you life you.

892
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 5: Have any kind of you know, Oh? Absolutely, yeah, geez.

893
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 11: My relationships started with them when I first got there.

894
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 11: You know, they were one of the first families to

895
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 11: reach out to me, and it's it's been special how

896
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 11: our bond and connection has been able to grow throughout

897
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 11: my time there, and obviously just doing different events with

898
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Speaker 11: them and then at the same time them coming the game,

899
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 11: shooting good luck text and then going to the Manning Camp.

900
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 5: Manning Camp was also an amazing experience.

901
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 11: So uh They've been a huge asset for me and

902
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 11: I look forward to continuing to build a relationship with them, have.

903
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 6: A number three pick in the quarterback and if I

904
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 6: remember he played.

905
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Speaker 5: For them, right, So yes, sir, yes, there would be

906
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 5: a smooth transition. Smooth transition.

907
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 13: Charlie Wish was.

908
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 14: Really talking to you about a lot and had some

909
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 14: of the great things to say about you.

910
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 3: Just actually, I think talking about you Moore is like

911
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 3: a first round pick.

912
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 11: So how do you feel, you know, when you hear

913
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 11: something like that, Yeah, I think it's uh, you know,

914
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 11: you try not to read into anything, but when you

915
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 11: have somebody like that who has a lot of credibility,

916
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 11: he has won a Super Bowl, you know, it's definitely

917
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 11: a huge compliment and uh, you know, it's humbling to

918
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Speaker 11: to hear compliments from him and somebody that you really

919
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 11: looked up to.

920
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 5: So uh, you know, I really appreciate him.

921
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Speaker 11: I appreciate him and him being able to give me

922
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 11: advice about my girlth with the ole Miss and being

923
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 11: able to work with you know, Charlie Wise Junior has

924
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 11: been great and uh, I've really respected that family.

925
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Speaker 2: All right, there you go. Jackson Darthy ole Miss quarterback

926
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Speaker 2: from his media availability after Day one of the Senior Bowl.

927
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Speaker 2: Our coach Kevin Stefanski down in Mobile. He caught up

928
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Speaker 2: with the NFL radio duo of Moving the Change, Jam

929
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 2: Miller Pat Kirwin. We will have that interview for you

930
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 2: coming up next Year's to Cleude the Browns Daily on

931
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Speaker 2: All Right, Welcome back in Cleveland Browns Daily presented by

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Speaker 2: Bally bet, official sportsmanning partner of your Cleveland Browns. We

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00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 2: head back down to the Senior Bowl. Our coach Kevin

938
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Speaker 2: Stefanci who's there, absolutely there, and we're gonna hear from

939
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Speaker 2: him right now on NFL President Serious XM, Moving the

940
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Speaker 2: Chains with Jim Miller and Pat Kerwin. Pack Kerwin's good dude.

941
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Speaker 2: Here is that interview courtesy of Sirius XM.

942
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Speaker 10: Welcome back to Mobile, Alabama, home of the twenty twenty

943
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 10: five Rees's Senior bull is our pleasure right now to

944
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 10: go down to the field as the head coach of

945
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 10: the Cleveland Browns is watching practice, So always good to

946
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 10: say hello to head coach Kevin Stefanski coach Jim Miller,

947
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 10: Pat Kerwin, moving the change serious XM NFL Radio. Thanks

948
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 10: for joining us, coach, Hope you're enjoying the sun here

949
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 10: in Mobile.

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00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 13: Yeah, I appreciate you guys having me. This is the

951
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Speaker 13: first time ever been a sideline.

952
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Speaker 2: Reporter, Kevin. Let's hope it's the last.

953
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Speaker 5: Thank you, Pat, Thank you very much.

954
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: Back to you gotta cooll plays.

955
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 5: Let's talk a little bit about that.

956
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 2: I like that decision a lot.

957
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 13: Yeah, And I did clarify with the I do have

958
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 13: the right to change my mind if I want to.

959
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 13: For me, Pat, as you know, you're putting the staff together,

960
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 13: and I got an offensive coordinat and Tommy Reese who

961
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 13: I really really believe and I think he's outstanding. We're

962
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 13: adding coaches. I feel really good about this group. I

963
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 13: think for to start this thing, I think the best

964
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 13: thing for us is for me to start calling it good.

965
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 13: If I changed my mind after a game, or after

966
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Speaker 13: a season, or after five games, that's kind of where

967
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 13: we'll go.

968
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 2: But I really really liked this group. I got in

969
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 2: this coaching room.

970
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 10: Nice well, coach. Just thoughts. Obviously two years in a row,

971
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 10: you know you've had to rotate a lot of quarterbacks

972
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Speaker 10: and just evaluations of this this past year for the

973
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 10: Cleveland Browns and where you want this, this group, this

974
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 10: team to go, because I think it starts with the

975
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Speaker 10: quarterback spot. To solidify your thoughts, coach.

976
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,919
Speaker 13: Yeah, obviously, Jim, as you know, when you win three games,

977
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,720
Speaker 13: you didn't do much very well, So we're looking at everything,

978
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 13: and certainly, you know you talk about the quarterback position

979
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 13: is important when it comes to winning and losing. We

980
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 13: get that we've had different guys that we've won with,

981
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Speaker 13: so we believe in our system and that a system

982
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 13: that's going to adapt to our best players. And certainly

983
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Speaker 13: you're thinking about the quarterback position when it comes to that.

984
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 13: But for us right now, it's about putting the system

985
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Speaker 13: in with Tommy Reese and this offensive staff and making

986
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 13: sure that it's adaptable to whomever we got out there

987
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Speaker 13: at all.

988
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Speaker 2: Of those spots.

989
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 15: Kevin, let's talk about senior boat. Why do you come

990
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 15: down here? What do you get expect to get out

991
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 15: of it?

992
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: Yeah?

993
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 13: For me, it's always about getting some exposure to these players.

994
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 13: There's guys that you watch on tape and you just

995
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 13: want to see them up close, so you do pro days.

996
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 13: As you know, you do private visits, that type of thing.

997
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 13: This is a little bit that's part of this is

998
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 13: just getting around getting the field level to see these guys,

999
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Speaker 13: whether they're in coming out of a three point stance

1000
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 13: or back pedaling or throwing the ball, just getting that

1001
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 13: at field level.

1002
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Speaker 10: Well from you from your standpoint. Everybody talks about the

1003
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 10: type of guy that you're looking for. What is the

1004
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 10: Cleveland Brown's type of guy that you're looking for?

1005
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 2: Coach?

1006
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think it's first thing, he's got to love

1007
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 13: this game. He's got to love everything that comes with

1008
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 13: this game, be passionate about it, not afraid of a

1009
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,720
Speaker 13: little work. And then for us, it's about tools. You're

1010
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 13: always looking for dominant traits. You'd love for these guys

1011
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 13: to be the bluest of blue Chippers, and there are

1012
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 13: some of those guys, but you're also looking for Okay,

1013
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 13: this guy may not have this, but man, he's really

1014
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 13: good at this one thing. And as coaches we can

1015
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 13: we can exploit that that one thing he's really good at.

1016
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Speaker 15: How much do you put into the interview here? I mean,

1017
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 15: it's better than it used to be. We used to

1018
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 15: have to go fishing for him. In the lobby, but

1019
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 15: now it's structured. What are you looking for in an interview?

1020
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 2: You mean the speed dating, Pat.

1021
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 15: Yeah, the speed dating, thank you very much.

1022
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, that's always part of it. Is just

1023
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 13: trying to get to know these guys and know how

1024
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 13: they tick. As you know, they can be very rehearsed.

1025
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 13: They've been coached up on what to say, what not

1026
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 13: to say, those type of things. So for me, we've

1027
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 13: done a lot of work on these guys already. Our

1028
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 13: scouts have done outstanding work and know them, understanding what

1029
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 13: they're about, how they learn those type of things. So

1030
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 13: it's getting a feel for them and then maybe diving

1031
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 13: into x's and o's and seeing how they see the game,

1032
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,399
Speaker 13: how they study when they're back, they're playing defensive back,

1033
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 13: what are their keys that they're looking at, So all

1034
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 13: those little things that you try and dive into the

1035
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 13: nuance of playing football.

1036
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 10: Coach, what has been the schedule like for you and

1037
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 10: your staff? We always talk about the exit physicals. Maybe

1038
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 10: you took some downtime, but now you're already up and

1039
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 10: running preparing for this. The draft will be or excuse me,

1040
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 10: the combine will be next month and then obviously the

1041
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 10: draft would talk about your staff and your schedule, what

1042
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 10: you guys have been working on.

1043
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 13: Sure, no downtime just yet. It's coming, but we're still

1044
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 13: we're still putting the staff together. So as you know,

1045
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 13: January sometimes can be about coaches getting other opportunities elsewhere,

1046
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 13: So making sure that we are bringing the right people

1047
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 13: into our building is really important. And then this is

1048
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 13: that next stop on the calendar down here at the

1049
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 13: Senior Bowl, looking forward to that combine and the rhythm

1050
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 13: of the off season starts to come at you, and

1051
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 13: then before you know it, you're gonna have players in

1052
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 13: your building come April twenty first.

1053
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 10: Well, coach, as always, we promise we keep you short,

1054
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 10: so always, thank you for your time and enjoy.

1055
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 5: The off season. Thanks Jim, Thanks Patta.

1056
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 10: Head coach of the Cleveland Browns, Kevin Stefanski, everybody. We've

1057
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 10: got plenty more to come from Mobile, Alabama back after this.

1058
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 2: All right, there you go, Well, no we're not, we're not.

1059
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 2: We're a couple of quick comments. Yeah that was from

1060
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 2: Jim Miller. Pat Kurwin. Patt would love seeing him at

1061
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,720
Speaker 2: the combine. On serious six sims, Moving the chains. NFL

1062
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Speaker 2: Radio coach to Fanski there on all of it, the

1063
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 2: off season, taking call play, calling back and everything that

1064
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 2: kind of went to it. Good job with the fellas

1065
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 2: down in Mobile. All right.

1066
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Speaker 3: Coming up next, we continue our positional reviews with Doctor Z.

1067
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 3: We are on the offensive line. We will also go

1068
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 3: back to Mobile Andrew Berry's availability from his availability yesterday,

1069
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Speaker 3: I have some of the cuts from that to share

1070
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Speaker 3: with you as well. Second hour of the program coming

1071
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Speaker 3: up next to listen to Cleveland Browns Daily, of course,

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Speaker 2: All Right. Second hour here, Cleveland Brown's Daily, presented by

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Speaker 2: a fifty ESPN, Cleveland. It is time for another edition

1079
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Speaker 2: of our Positional Reviews. We are on the offensive line,

1080
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 2: the position of strength for many many years with your

1081
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. From some perspective and a look at the

1082
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 2: depth of what is here and what is coming back,

1083
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 2: we bring on Duc Dizzy. So this is a group

1084
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 2: that actually you feel pretty good about.

1085
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 3: You're going to have to make some moves here to buttress,

1086
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 3: but you feel pretty good about this room and what

1087
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 3: you have here, not only for the present but hopefully

1088
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 3: for the future. And so you've got you know, your

1089
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 3: Pro bowlers Betonio and Wyatt Teller, Teller. I think it's

1090
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 3: three time Pro bowler. Joel just made a seventh straight

1091
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 3: Pro Bowl for the Browns. Second half of the year,

1092
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 3: Joel Platonia was as good as anybody. Played more offensive

1093
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 3: snaps than any player in the NFL this year. What

1094
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 3: an absolute stud, Just a stud. Wyatt solid Ethan Posok

1095
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 3: very slow start this season, ended the season very well. Again,

1096
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 3: he is a good player. Under all three of those

1097
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 3: guys under contract. Now, I don't know how long you

1098
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 3: can keep throwing twenty eight point eight million dollars at

1099
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 3: your two starting guards in the National Football League. That

1100
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 3: seems somewhat untenable. I think it's a situation that will

1101
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 3: resolve itself after this season. Now, one thing that's interesting

1102
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 3: is that both Potonio and Teller will be free agents

1103
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 3: after the twenty twenty five season. Posik will be a

1104
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 3: free agent after the twenty twenty five seasons. So all

1105
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 3: three of your starters in there. Now you've got Nick

1106
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 3: Harris came back again. Heartbreak, poor guy cannot stay healthy

1107
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 3: unrestricted free agent Michael Dunn unrestricted free agent zag Zinter

1108
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 3: is it going into a second year and I think

1109
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 3: you know he had that broken leg, needs to get stronger,

1110
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 3: needs to improve his anchor. But good clay there and

1111
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 3: a guy that was super successful in college in a

1112
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 3: very pro style system. I think our new system will

1113
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 3: probably are going back to our old system will feel

1114
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 3: fit him better. This is a huge off season for him.

1115
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,959
Speaker 3: This is a huge off season for zag Zenter because

1116
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 3: when he was out there, quite frankly, it was not good.

1117
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 3: It's unfortunate, but it is true.

1118
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 2: He really needs to be the answer in the middle

1119
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 2: of the offensive line. He needs to be the answer

1120
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 2: to the problem that's coming. Yes, part of the answer, Yes,

1121
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 2: must be. I mean that's why you picked him there

1122
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 2: in the third round. He's got to be. So that

1123
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 2: is something that I know they will be counting on.

1124
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 3: And what you'll hope to see is a guy that

1125
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 3: takes what he learned about what it takes to compete

1126
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 3: at the highest level, very very seriously. This offseason really

1127
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 3: goes and gets to work on his body and on

1128
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 3: his strength, on his anchor, all of it.

1129
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 2: And if he can do that, I think that you

1130
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 2: have that solution. It's very important.

1131
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 3: I think you're right, it's very important that he can

1132
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 3: be that guy for you going forward because but Tonio,

1133
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 3: I think, you know, whenever he hangs it up and

1134
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,919
Speaker 3: it sounds like it's either going to be he's done

1135
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 3: or one more year, Yeah, there's not a whole lot

1136
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,720
Speaker 3: of time with that. So you have to have somebody

1137
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 3: ready to go soon. And so that's kind of where

1138
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 3: I think you're looking, you know, right there. All right,

1139
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 3: We talked about Nickery, talked about Michael Doun, talked about Zaxentner.

1140
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 3: There are two other guys, and I think one is

1141
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 3: Luke Whippler, who they absolutely love, lost for the whole year,

1142
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 3: just going to be entering his third season, so two

1143
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 3: more years on his rookie deal. I think you pencil

1144
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 3: him in right now. He's your backup center and they

1145
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 3: feel good about that. Another guy that they really really like,

1146
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 3: they kept on the practice squad all year, was an

1147
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 3: undrafted free agent. Is Javian Cohen, and he could be

1148
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 3: a guard of the future. Jermaine A. Fetti, who played

1149
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:31,919
Speaker 3: left tackle for you, also is a guy that could

1150
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 3: come back on this roster because not only did you

1151
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 3: show that he can play a little tackle for you,

1152
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 3: he can play guard and has played guard, and so

1153
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 3: he would give you some of that guard tackle versatility.

1154
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 3: But this group you like where you're at the stars,

1155
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 3: but you're thinking, Okay, twenty twenty six, you're probably not

1156
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:50,919
Speaker 3: You're not gonna have Botonio most likely.

1157
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 2: I feel like that's safe to say.

1158
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 3: Thanks, You're going to have to redo Wyatt, You're gonna

1159
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 3: have to redo Postik if you want to keep them,

1160
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 3: or you're starting to success and plan here. You know, Zinter, Cohen,

1161
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 3: Whippler draft picks, So there's a lot to There's a

1162
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 3: lot to address here.

1163
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 2: It's not an immediate, immediate need, but it is a

1164
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 2: need that is.

1165
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 3: Starting to become more immediate going into this offseason because

1166
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 3: of the fact that it will be very immediate and

1167
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 3: relevant coming out of the next season.

1168
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 2: My ear offseason for Zinter and Whippler especially huge just

1169
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 2: can't because as we ran into we were having the

1170
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 2: conversation about the cornerback position yesterday and you start talking about, Okay,

1171
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 2: this was a room that is a strength of this team,

1172
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 2: but all of a sudden, it's gotten not old, but

1173
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 2: it's gotten old NFL in terms of experienced in a hurry.

1174
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 2: And so you have three guys on this interior that

1175
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 2: have been bedrocks of your front that are all unrestricted

1176
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 2: free agents after this year. You have one more year

1177
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 2: of kind of like, let's keep the band back together,

1178
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 2: but then you need to be able to You just

1179
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 2: can't pay all this stuff now. Yeah, and so you

1180
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 2: need draft picks to be dudes in the interior of

1181
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 2: this offensive line. Zinner and Whipler, they love them both,

1182
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 2: but they need to have big time offseason. They got

1183
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 2: to come back next year into camp, into the offseason program,

1184
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,800
Speaker 2: into the mini camp, and then into camp like NFL players.

1185
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 2: Same with Javan Cohen.

1186
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 3: I think he's a guy that you'd lump in that

1187
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 3: group undrafted, but that somebody that he's got to come

1188
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 3: back and address the things whatever it was that they

1189
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 3: wanted him or needed him to address, they need to

1190
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 3: be addressed coming in because you know that's going to

1191
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 3: be critically important. I mean, you could go with Beotonio, Tuller,

1192
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 3: Posik Zinter Whippler Cohen or Jermaineatibku. You're six, you could

1193
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 3: have Affetti as the third tackle, and then you're gonna

1194
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 3: need to you know, either draft a tackle, sign a

1195
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 3: tackle another one. But you're likely going to have you know,

1196
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 3: nine to ten in the oh line for sure with

1197
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 3: the new offensive line coach. And you mentioned going back

1198
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 3: to what we used to be offensively, do you sense

1199
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 3: talking to folks that this will be a return to

1200
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 3: the way that it was coached up front under Bill Klahan.

1201
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 3: I think it'll be significantly more precise, It'll be simply

1202
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 3: more regiment to. It'll be significantly more kind of tough, yep,

1203
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 3: in terms of the way the coaching is delivered. So yes,

1204
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 3: in that regard, it will be much more similar to

1205
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 3: Bill Callian. There's only one Bill Kellian, but Bloomber's got

1206
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 3: a great resume, has been doing this for a very

1207
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 3: very long time.

1208
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 2: It's been in oc Yeah, gets it so.

1209
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 3: But I think that his style will be much more

1210
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 3: similar to Callahan's than what we experienced last year, and

1211
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 3: we saw, I think, really a dip until you know,

1212
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 3: there were reports that basically Vrabel kind of took over

1213
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 3: that room. Yeah, and things got a lot better, But

1214
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 3: obviously a change was made in that room. That's the

1215
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 3: one position coach on this team that was not retained.

1216
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. The yeah, the part of this interior and getting

1217
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 2: this this is another one of those where you just

1218
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 2: need the picks to be able to land.

1219
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 12: You know.

1220
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 2: There were a lot of whispers at the end of

1221
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 2: the season. We don't know about Joel as he coming back?

1222
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 5: Is he not?

1223
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 2: We haven't heard from him since so, but that I

1224
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 2: would think in this instance known who's as good news?

1225
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 3: Yes, And I think is as as Joe Thomas has

1226
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 3: said many many times, the longer it goes without him

1227
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 3: saying that he's retiring, the better chance it is that

1228
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 3: he is going to be.

1229
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:14,439
Speaker 2: Back.

1230
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 3: Yeah that if it was one of those things, all right,

1231
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 3: I'm it comes quickly. So I'm hopeful that yes, he

1232
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 3: will be he will be back, and it would be

1233
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 3: great quite frankly.

1234
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 2: How does he he's thirty three? Whyatt's thirty.

1235
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: Joel?

1236
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 2: Specifically, I'm trying to pull up pff just he's now

1237
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 2: an eight time pro bowler? Do I have that right?

1238
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 2: Or six times? I believe seven? Seven? Seven. Now he's

1239
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 2: seven straight. He's a two time All Pro. You know,

1240
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 2: he's one of those things where like the lack of

1241
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 2: winning by the organization is going to be a problem.

1242
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's seven straight, seven straight Pro Bowls. He

1243
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 2: was very good at the start of his career, but

1244
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 2: then the seven straight Poll Pro Bowls it had. And

1245
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 2: in terms of like Hall of Fame monitor, he's quite

1246
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 2: a the average. Yeah, he's quite a ways down. He's

1247
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 2: at forty seven point seven, which is thirty ninth among guards.

1248
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 2: The Hall of Fame guard averages one oh five point

1249
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 2: seven to one. So he would need like probably two

1250
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 2: more Pro Bowl All Pro type seasons to start being

1251
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 2: in the category where you could talk about gold jackets.

1252
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 3: I think that's I think that's fair. I think Joe

1253
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 3: Bytonio has been so good for so long and such

1254
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 3: a constant.

1255
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:31,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.

1256
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 3: Five different All pros two first three. Second, you mentioned

1257
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 3: that seven straight Pro Bowls.

1258
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 2: He's really good. He is, he is really good. But

1259
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 2: that's just a hard needle to thread guard a guard.

1260
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer is hard. There's got to be like

1261
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 2: a Randal McDaniel dominance to it. Yeah, where you kind

1262
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,919
Speaker 2: of hog the All Pro stuff for a specific lont

1263
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 2: of time.

1264
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 12: That.

1265
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's down from the guys that were now Marshall

1266
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 3: Yonder eight Pro Bowls, two first Team All Pros, that

1267
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 3: would be the most similar.

1268
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 2: I mean Tyer.

1269
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 3: Logan Mankins won first team All Pro seven Pro Bowls.

1270
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 2: But again he gets the winning Yeah, but this says

1271
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 2: no championships, isn't right? He won championships in New England. No,

1272
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 2: what how he plays entire and he plays whole career there.

1273
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 3: He played the five to thirteen so that must have

1274
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 3: been the droughts or I think they won in like

1275
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 3: the two different droughts.

1276
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 2: He missed it. Huh wow.

1277
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 3: So you know he no championships, but one time All Pro,

1278
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 3: seven time Pro bowler.

1279
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 2: All right, he's in.

1280
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 3: But it's interesting his Hall of Fame monitor is so

1281
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 3: much ahead of Joel's and Joel is a one in

1282
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 3: seven as well.

1283
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 2: Uh two and seven.

1284
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 3: Yeah wait a second bold means they're in the Hall

1285
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 3: of Fame. So hold on, let me take this back

1286
01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 3: that I missed that up. Yeah, Mankins is not in

1287
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame. Marshall Yonda is not in the

1288
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame Hall of Famers. The lowest Hall of

1289
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 3: Fame monor that got in is Tom Mack, who played

1290
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 3: from sixty six to seventy eight and had eleven Pro Bowls,

1291
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 3: no First Team All Pros. Mike Munchak would be the

1292
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 3: next lowest one nine Pro Bowls, two first Team All Pros,

1293
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 3: Billy Shaw five first Team All Pros, eight Pro Bowls,

1294
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 3: two championships. So those guys that I was saying are

1295
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 3: ahead of him on this list, none of them are

1296
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 3: Pro Bowlers. The bottom rung Pro Bowlers Tom Mack, Mike Munchuck,

1297
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 3: Billy Shaw, Gene Hickerson yep was three time First Team

1298
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 3: All Pro, six Pro Bowls, one championship.

1299
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 2: Joe D Joe D.

1300
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 3: Russ Grimm above him was four Pro Bowls, three First

1301
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 3: Team All Pro, three titles, Will Shields twelve Pro Bowls,

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Speaker 3: two First Teams, no titles, Gene Upshaw seven Pro Bowls,

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Speaker 3: five First Teams, two titles. So there aren't a ton

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Speaker 3: of guards in. Yeah, most of the guard the guards

1305
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Speaker 3: that are in and Tom Mack, I mean it's so hard,

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Speaker 3: that's sixties. The guys that are don't have necessarily the

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Speaker 3: craziest resumes played in the sixties or the eighties.

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Speaker 2: I mean the most recent.

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Speaker 3: You know, guys who played into the two thousands, Bruce

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Speaker 3: Matthews loaded, Randall McDaniel, loaded Fanica, six first team All Pros.

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Speaker 3: Matthews was seven, McDaniel was seven, Larry Allen was six

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Speaker 3: first team All Pros, Hudgens and five first team All Pros.

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Speaker 2: So that's like Zach Martin will be. He's a seven

1314
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Speaker 2: time first team All Pro, nine time Pro bowler. I

1315
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Speaker 2: think Zach Martin will be.

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01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:37,919
Speaker 3: Jarry Evans hasn't gotten in yet, and he's four first team,

1317
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Speaker 3: six Pro Bowls and a Championship.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the highest on the on the grades that.

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Speaker 3: And yonda yonda would be eligible. He's eight Pro Bowls,

1320
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Speaker 3: two First Teams, and a Super Bowl as the great

1321
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 3: guard of the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so those are that's kind of what you're trying

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Speaker 2: to scale down, you're trying to get to. So if

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Speaker 2: your Joel like the more accolades, if it is something

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Speaker 2: that matters, if it's something that you're why is to

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01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 2: try to get a gold jacket, then you need to

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01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 2: stack on another couple of years of similar play to

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Speaker 2: be able to get in that conversation. But again, I

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Speaker 2: think As we're going through these positional reviews, one thing

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Speaker 2: you're noticing is you're fine for next year, but then

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Speaker 2: what And that's the future planning that has to be done.

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Speaker 2: And when we talked to Ab last year, you know,

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Speaker 2: at the combine, and he said, I said, well, what

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Speaker 2: is your plan on this stuff? And everything was three

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Speaker 2: to five years. So three to five years. Some of

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Speaker 2: these guys, some of these names we're talking about, they

1337
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Speaker 2: need to start to go, especially on the interior of

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Speaker 2: the offensive lines. Huge Andrew Berry. You will hear from

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Speaker 2: him from the Senior Bowl. Coming up next to list

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Speaker 2: to Cleveland Browns Daily on eight fifty ESPN.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily presented by Bally Bett, an official

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Speaker 1: esp and Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: All Right, Welcome back game played the Browns Daily. Let's

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Speaker 2: head back to Mobile. Andrew Berry's limited media availability yesterday

1346
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 2: at the Senior Bowl, AB was asked about his primary

1347
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Speaker 2: how this is primarily his first quarterback search and how

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Speaker 2: he would go about it. Here's the answer.

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Speaker 12: This is my first round one QB search as a

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Speaker 12: job manager, but you know, really being a part.

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Speaker 13: Of you know, really all once in twenty sixteen, being.

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Speaker 6: A part of obviously like the Macro draft in twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 6: and you.

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Speaker 7: Know, I'm on the purphey of like you know, Luck

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Speaker 7: Art three.

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Speaker 2: I do feel like I have a.

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Speaker 7: Pretty good, pretty good fulcraphic.

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Speaker 12: To how this process goes, so I won't necessarily go

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Speaker 12: into like the specifics of what we're going to do

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Speaker 12: in the spring.

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Speaker 5: But maybe have a pretty organize.

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Speaker 2: Was he So he was in Indie with the Andrew

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Speaker 2: Luck RG three? Is that what he said there? I

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Speaker 2: thought I heard him.

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Speaker 3: Say RG three and then could have been twenty seventeen

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Speaker 3: or twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 2: He talked about sixteen with Wentz and then he talked

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Speaker 2: about ours with that RG three ended up being our

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Speaker 2: quarterback in twenty sixteen. I know, but I think he's

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Speaker 2: referring to because he said this the first time as

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Speaker 2: a general manager that I've been in it. But I

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Speaker 2: was close to the process with Baker and with in sixteen.

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Speaker 3: Well eighteen would have been right after he left here,

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Speaker 3: so he would he was on that process. He was well,

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Speaker 3: he started it right but then then finished, so he

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Speaker 3: was in he.

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Speaker 2: Was through that draft, not the Baker draft. I thought

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Speaker 2: he I thought he left Dorsey. No, I know that,

1379
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Speaker 2: but I thought he was. He was here sixteen to eighteen.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he was.

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Speaker 2: He was still under doors. And then we're like, because

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Speaker 2: I remember saying goodbye to him, he was underdoors. He

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Speaker 2: wasn't here for a little while. You remember saying goodbye

1384
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Speaker 2: to him, and he's like, he's off to Philly. Hey, dude,

1385
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Speaker 2: you're great. Yeah he was in Philly just for nineteen.

1386
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Speaker 3: You're right, Yeah, yeah, said Barry was hired by the

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Speaker 3: Eagles the vice president Football Oberations, following with tumulch just

1388
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Speaker 3: tenure with the Browns and the firing of Sashi run

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Speaker 3: towards the end of the twenty seventeen season. So this

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Speaker 3: says he was with Indy from nine to twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 3: but he was the pro scouting coordinator from twelve to fifteen.

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Speaker 2: So that gets you the Andrew lust.

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Speaker 7: So RG three's one year in Cleveland was sixteen. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: and that was his first. That was the first year

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Speaker 7: here was.

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Speaker 2: In Luck because fifteen's Jamis and no for Mariota. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I thought Luck was before that. They could have been.

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Speaker 3: I thought Luck was more like twelve twelve. It is

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Speaker 3: kind of where I think that makes Cousins has been

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Speaker 3: in the.

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Speaker 2: League for a great, great many years. Yeah, news here

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Speaker 2: and then with the Eagles, and then with the Wentz

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Speaker 2: deal with you know, with Philly, so we'd have been

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Speaker 2: kind of there. That felt like though, yes, he was here,

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Speaker 2: but in eighteen it also felt like that was that

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Speaker 2: was all Doris. I'm just being like, he was still

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Speaker 2: with us that year. He was around, and he was

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Speaker 2: through the process of drafting. It was Doris's pick, but

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Speaker 2: he was through the process from the beginning with that group.

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Speaker 3: He was also here in seventeen. How we ended up

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Speaker 3: taking Miles Garrett, but he was fully overseeing it. In

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Speaker 3: seventeen we took Miles one, the Bills traded ten to

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs, who took Mahomes. We traded twelve to Houston

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Speaker 3: who took Watson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so he would have been all over that one. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So Look, we've been over this a bunch of times

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Speaker 3: when it comes to quarterbacks, like, there is no full

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Speaker 3: proof way to do this. Andrew Lux probably his full

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Speaker 3: proof of a quarterback as we've had come out, and

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Speaker 3: it's tough, it is very very difficult. He was also

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Speaker 3: asked about how free agency did the draft go hand

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Speaker 3: in hand with his master plan?

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Speaker 6: Here is ab on that I would be lying by

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Speaker 6: sad that they had no relation at all.

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Speaker 12: We do generally go into free agency with the idea

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Speaker 12: that we'd like to go into the draft with the ability.

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Speaker 13: To line up and play at all our most thoughts, so.

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Speaker 2: That then we're not either directly or indirectly.

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Speaker 12: Influenced by by me where we can make the best

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Speaker 12: long term evets.

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Speaker 2: You know, for the organization.

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Speaker 12: But that being said, you know, we are taking a

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Speaker 12: little bit more of like a you know, a longer

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Speaker 12: term focus you know, with this offseason than maybe we've

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Speaker 12: had the past too. So I can't say that will

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Speaker 12: necessarily have you know, the same approach and cre agency,

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Speaker 12: But that's generally happy.

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Speaker 8: It's not a matter.

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Speaker 2: Who is DJing down there? I don't know, but it's

1440
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Speaker 2: like Club Lavila. It is bouncing in the background, like

1441
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Speaker 2: what is going on? Like the people are the guys

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Speaker 2: wanting that? Do they want the instance? Somebody should be danced?

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Speaker 2: Everything is a night at the Roxbury feels like it

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Speaker 2: down there.

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Speaker 7: It's awful lot and it's not like the stands are full.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean, I understand you want to create ambiance,

1447
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 2: and the music does that. But like the musical choice

1448
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 2: is is a choice. Yes, what they're choosing to play.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that what he just said is possible

1450
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Speaker 2: this year. What he just said is that that the

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Speaker 2: hope is you get to the draft. You don't have

1452
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 2: to draft for need because everything else is filled. I

1453
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 2: don't think that's possible this show.

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01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 3: I just think he's saying that you could line up

1455
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Speaker 3: and play so like her.

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Speaker 2: Let's just I don't know that. I understand the spirit

1457
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 2: of It's probably true, but the reality of it I

1458
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 2: don't think is all right. Your offensive line's full.

1459
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Speaker 3: Offensive left tackle we'll call it dewand right tackle Conklin,

1460
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Speaker 3: s guard Botonio, center Posik, and right guard Teller So okay.

1461
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Speaker 3: Tight end to Joku. Wide receiver would be Judy Tillman

1462
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 3: dot dot dot.

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Speaker 2: So you have to be a free agency if he's

1464
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Speaker 2: going to try to do that before the draft.

1465
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 3: Jerome Ford at running back quarterback dot dot dot dot. Defensively,

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Speaker 3: defensive ends, you have Miles Isaiah Maguire. You'll get Alex

1467
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Speaker 3: right back. Y' also have Obo so good there.

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Speaker 2: Okay, defensive tackle for this pen, I really liked how

1469
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Speaker 2: the ink was coming out of not work out, come on,

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Speaker 2: get right, get right? Oh me see it. I want

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Speaker 2: to see that pen. Feel good, Ian, it's a fun pen.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know where I found this one. I

1473
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 2: don't like the I mean that is Concordia University, Irvine.

1474
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Speaker 2: How did that pen get to you? In my back?

1475
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Speaker 3: Defensive tackle? My call Dalvin Tomlinson instead Juwan Briggs. So

1476
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Speaker 3: you got three, but probably a dot dot dot I

1477
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Speaker 3: could be forgetting somebody linebacker. Hickses under contract, Jka is

1478
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Speaker 3: under contract, but with a question mark my mood Diabotte like,

1479
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Speaker 3: if you had to play so good, yeah, corner Denzel,

1480
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Speaker 3: Greg m j Cam Mitchell Miles Hard and safety you

1481
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Speaker 3: would go Ronnie Hickman, Grant Delpit and then the Anthony

1482
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Speaker 3: Bell would be your third.

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01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 2: So so you have to have minimum. You have to

1484
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Speaker 2: have a receiver, a corner, linebacker like those have to

1485
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 2: be some of that has to be shorn up in

1486
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 2: free agency if you're going to attempt to go to

1487
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:13,639
Speaker 2: the draft and not have to draft positional need yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

1488
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 2: I mean you'll have to do some work in free

1489
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:16,720
Speaker 2: agency if that. I think you need a running I

1490
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 2: mean you need a lot, but like, yes, yeah, all right.

1491
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Speaker 2: Here was Ab on how he will approach the tackle

1492
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Speaker 2: situation this offseason.

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Speaker 12: That's a little bit unsettled with guys hitting free agency,

1494
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 12: and you know, we do have a couple of guys

1495
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 12: that are returning from injury. You know, we are last

1496
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 12: year optimistic on the health front, but one of the

1497
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 12: last years sometimes that they can always go according to plan.

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Speaker 5: So that's something that we're gonna have to work.

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Speaker 3: For all right, in terms of it's a big one,

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Speaker 3: but that is yeah, yes, I mean you got Duan's

1501
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 3: got to stay healthy.

1502
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 2: When he's healthy, he's great. Yep, Jack too. Jack was

1503
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 2: great last year, but need all of it. So yeah,

1504
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 2: they're gonna need to add another one in one or

1505
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 2: two in that group. One of the things that made

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Speaker 2: a lot of got a lot of attention this week

1507
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Speaker 2: was Senior Bowl Executive director Jim Nagy's comment that none

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Speaker 2: of the quarterbacks in this year's class would crack the

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Speaker 2: top six last year. You and I both said, well,

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Speaker 2: that's in a very good way to sell the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Obviously Jim Nagy didn't care too much. Here is AB's

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Speaker 2: reaction to that.

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Speaker 12: I tend to stay away from those type of comparisons

1514
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:22,719
Speaker 12: are at least publicly.

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01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 6: Mary Kay.

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01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 12: The one thing I'd say is, I think, you know,

1517
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 12: generally speaking, you know, you think about you know, some

1518
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 12: of the quarterbacks that that played last week, and you

1519
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 12: know Mahomes he was the tenth pick of the draft,

1520
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 12: Josh Allen, he was the seventh pick in the draft,

1521
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:40,719
Speaker 12: Jalen Hurst was a fifty third pick in the draft,

1522
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 12: with you know both the Lamar Jackson was there a

1523
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 12: seventh pick of the draft. So I think sometimes that

1524
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 12: narrative gets a bit ogo blown.

1525
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 2: You know, It's not like every great quarterback went run

1526
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 2: or two.

1527
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:54,879
Speaker 14: And I think it's more about, hey, does this individual

1528
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 14: have a skill set that you can build a high

1529
01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 14: level offens amount and are you committed organization to put

1530
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:02,839
Speaker 14: the piece of coaching player support structure.

1531
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:07,640
Speaker 3: I think that that is.

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01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 5: So.

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01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 3: I think that they're clearly what he just said are

1534
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 3: those are facts.

1535
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:26,680
Speaker 2: That is true. But when you look at I think

1536
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:28,560
Speaker 2: a lot of revisionist history is being done with this

1537
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 2: last class on.

1538
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:32,560
Speaker 3: When you look at the top scoring teams in the

1539
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 3: NFL from twenty twenty four, Troy Lions Jared Goff number

1540
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 3: one overall pick. I'll just put first round and then

1541
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 3: all right, So Jared Goffs the number one overall pick.

1542
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 3: The Bills Josh Allen was he so was seventh, Raven

1543
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson thirty second, but a first rounder. Buccaneers Baker

1544
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 3: Mayfield number one overall pick. I'll say, I'm gonna say

1545
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 3: top how many of them are top ten picks, and

1546
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 3: then how many are top five picks?

1547
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 2: So one, two, three, one two.

1548
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 3: The Commanders were fifth. Yep, that is a number two

1549
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 3: pick in the draft. The Bengals were sixth.

1550
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 2: That is a number one overall, number.

1551
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 3: One overall pick in the draft. The Eagles were seven.

1552
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 3: So that's Jalen Hurts. You're out second and so that's

1553
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts. That's one. The Packers Jordan Love was a

1554
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 3: first round pick. The Viking Sam Darnold was a first

1555
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 3: round pick overall. Right, yep, second overall. The Denver Broncos

1556
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 3: Bo Nick's first round pick not top ten. I don't

1557
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 3: believe Justin Herbert. We're gonna go and we're gonna stop.

1558
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 3: We'll go to the top twelve in the league. Justin

1559
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 3: Herbert number eleven, top ten. Is he fifth or is

1560
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 3: he sixth?

1561
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 2: I want to say Tua went first, right, and two.

1562
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 3: Was sixth if I'm not mistaken, or two was fifth

1563
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 3: and he was sixth maybe, And then the twelfth team

1564
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:56,760
Speaker 3: in the league was the Arizona Cardinals. That is going

1565
01:14:56,840 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 3: to be a first number one overall. Herbert was sixth pick,

1566
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 3: first round, sixth all right, so he doesn't fit in that.

1567
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:10,640
Speaker 3: So of the twelve top twelve scoring teams in the

1568
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:14,919
Speaker 3: National Football League in the year twenty twenty four, eleven

1569
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 3: of them had a first round quarterback, eight of them

1570
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:21,680
Speaker 3: had a top ten picket quarterback, six or half of

1571
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:23,799
Speaker 3: them had a top five picket quarterback.

1572
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 7: Yep.

1573
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 3: Of those top five, we had a one, A one,

1574
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 3: a two, A one, and a two, So we can

1575
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 3: even say top two picks. Some of your two two

1576
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 3: picks dress six. Yeah, and there was one second round

1577
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 3: or later, like don't make this harder than it is,

1578
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 3: kid rock Perty would be thirteen, So that changes thing outlier, right,

1579
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:48,679
Speaker 3: But to your don't make it harder than it needs

1580
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 3: to be. That is the name of the game in

1581
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 3: the National Football League, it's can you score? And so

1582
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:58,559
Speaker 3: I'm hearing a lot of people talk about a great

1583
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 3: many things. What more do you need than that? And

1584
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 3: I would imagine if we went back many many years,

1585
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 3: it's gonna be similar. Now, guys like Mahomes would come

1586
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 3: in in twelve, so you just fit in the first

1587
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 3: round category.

1588
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 2: And he's obviously been so great.

1589
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 3: But this is eleven of the twelve's hop scoring teams

1590
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 3: in the league get a first round pick at quarterback.

1591
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 3: Eight of them were top ten picks at quarterback, and

1592
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 3: six of them were top two picks at quarterback. So

1593
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 3: just think about that for a second. You want, You've

1594
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 3: got one guy and yes he's playing for the Super Bowl,

1595
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts, who was a second or later, And I

1596
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 3: would argue has if not the best. Somebody could challenge

1597
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 3: me real quickly if it cops to you, or g

1598
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 3: Man or Gibbet or j Max, if it pops in

1599
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 3: your head. But AJ Brown, DeVante Smith and Takuon Barkley,

1600
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 3: I take that.

1601
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 2: Three is there?

1602
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 3: I'm even trying to think of what would Chase Brown,

1603
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 3: t Higgins, Jamar Chase that's you're still taking that.

1604
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 2: Still taking that. That's probably, by the way, trying to

1605
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:02,879
Speaker 2: drop that. Gibbs william in Saint Brown. If you drop Williams.

1606
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 3: I don't think any even with this if you drop

1607
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 3: the if you put this yeah with Joe Burrow, aj Brown,

1608
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 3: DeVante Smith and Saquon Barkley, Joe Burrow, you know, look out,

1609
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 3: probably gonna be just fine.

1610
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 2: How many people in the league are even trying to

1611
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 2: have a long term solution at quarterback? Who isn't a

1612
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 2: first round pick? Jalen Hurts, Rock Purty? Who else like

1613
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 2: a long term solution that isn't a first round pick?

1614
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 2: I mean just go through the league. I mean long term,

1615
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:37,720
Speaker 2: long term like Prescott, Dak Dak, Jalen Purty.

1616
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 3: Derek Carr. But I think they're still looking for a

1617
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 3: long term solution. It's technically a second round pick.

1618
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:46,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, like first pick of the second round or and

1619
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:48,560
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's the long term solution. No,

1620
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 2: not disappoint in his career. Right, it's like three or four.

1621
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 2: It's a handful who aren't trying to go about it

1622
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 2: with the first round pick of quarterback?

1623
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 3: Right, you have to have one and the other teams

1624
01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 3: that you would say feel good about their quarterback. If

1625
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:03,679
Speaker 3: you were to go in the AFC South, you've got Houston,

1626
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:07,360
Speaker 3: which is second overall Jacksonville first overall. I don't think

1627
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 3: that Indie necessarily is, but I'm pretty sure it.

1628
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 2: Wasn't he like fifth overall Anthony Ris trips. Yeah, okay,

1629
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:15,559
Speaker 2: Lovis was a two. But they're gonna pick one at

1630
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 2: number one, or maybe they're not, which would be great. Yeah. No,

1631
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 2: but that's that's it. Here's the other thing.

1632
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:26,639
Speaker 3: Since nineteen ninety nine, the Browns have taken a top

1633
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 3: five quarterback twice, Baker and Tim Couch.

1634
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:35,639
Speaker 2: That's it. That's it. So at some point you gotta

1635
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 2: just you just gotta do it because that's what this

1636
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 2: league is. That's what this league is.

1637
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:45,800
Speaker 3: You have to say, and you know, for Naggy saying this,

1638
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 3: that would it's interesting to me. And again I've got

1639
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 3: I will and I will, I will watch in great detail.

1640
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 3: But like if you have a guy who threw completed

1641
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 3: more a higher percentage of past, does anybody NFL history

1642
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 3: has an NFL arm for sure, as accurate can extend

1643
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:07,600
Speaker 3: plays all of that. But sure, Sanders feels to me

1644
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 3: like he's got everything you need. Cam Ward, you hear

1645
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,679
Speaker 3: Lewis Riddick talk about him, you know, he's a total leader.

1646
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 3: Stud There's two right there. Yeah, right there in second

1647
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 3: one of them will be there. It's in fact, it's guaranteed.

1648
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 3: It's guaranteed they'll be there.

1649
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. Speaking of mock drafts, Our buddy,

1650
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Speaker 2: Daniel Jeremiah released his first mock draft. We will get

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1652
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Speaker 2: every team around the league. We'll take a look at

1653
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Speaker 2: Your Cleveland brown select Colorado wide receiver cornerback Travis Hunter,

1667
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 2: Daniel Jeremiah Wrights quarterback is in play here for the Browns,

1668
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 2: but in necessary scenario they pick Hunter, the Heisman Trophy

1669
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:45,680
Speaker 2: winning two way star. I'm in the minority as someone

1670
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 2: who prefers him as a full time offensive player who

1671
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:50,400
Speaker 2: moonlights on defense. I don't think that is a minority,

1672
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:51,720
Speaker 2: because I've heard Kuiper say that too.

1673
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 3: Through it doesn't seem like it's some minority anymore.

1674
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:59,439
Speaker 2: Okay, is Abdall Carter going number one and so he

1675
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 2: has bothquarterbacks falling. He's got cam Word going three to

1676
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 2: the Giants, and then Shudur Sander's falling all the way

1677
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 2: to six with the Raiders.

1678
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 3: Listen this is and he writes very short blurbs to

1679
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:16,639
Speaker 3: be honest. Giants are desperate for a quarterback ward strong,

1680
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 3: strong arm and playmaking ability would be a great fit.

1681
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 2: Take him at too, take him it to yes six.

1682
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 3: Tom Brady, now partner in the Raiders ownership, is someone

1683
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 3: who would appreciate Sanders' toughness, accuracy and decision making.

1684
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 2: Yep, take him a too, Take him at two, mister

1685
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:35,680
Speaker 2: z ductor z duct z. Yes, if you did not

1686
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 2: want to take one at two, even though those were

1687
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 2: the way that they were spoken to. Would you not

1688
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:42,759
Speaker 2: call you have to move down? Then these two teams

1689
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:44,679
Speaker 2: to say, yes, come on down boys.

1690
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 3: The idea that again this pick this asset. To me,

1691
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 3: this is just my opinion on the whole thing. This

1692
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:53,879
Speaker 3: asset has to become the quarterback.

1693
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 2: Now.

1694
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 3: The easiest thing to do in this scenario. You have

1695
01:21:55,960 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 3: your pick of quarterbacks in this draft. You take one, yeah,

1696
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:05,559
Speaker 3: or you moved down. Now, the truth is you could

1697
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 3: move down at six if you would have to have

1698
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 3: liked three quarterbacks.

1699
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 2: But you probably give them. But somebody could jump you. Obviously.

1700
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 3: To me, if you move down and you load it

1701
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:20,160
Speaker 3: up and you're like, this isn't the quarterback lass for me,

1702
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 3: I'm at six and I'm taking Tea Mac that McMillan,

1703
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 3: the receiver from Arizona who's like Mike Evans weapons. What

1704
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 3: did I say earlier when we went through those twelve

1705
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 3: teams we did this two days ago. Those are the

1706
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 3: teams that all went to the postseason and won games. Now,

1707
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 3: some of them met the postseason, didn't win game. I

1708
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 3: think Tampa was top four and scoring. But those are

1709
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:42,519
Speaker 3: the teams that go on and have a chance to

1710
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,680
Speaker 3: really win the Super Bowl. Now, the Chiefs they kind

1711
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 3: of slow played their offense, but if you like, they're

1712
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 3: scoring in the they at thirty for the first time

1713
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 3: all year, which is wild. But when they needed to,

1714
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 3: they just kind of did their own thing this year

1715
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 3: in a very unique way. But you've got to be

1716
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:58,640
Speaker 3: able to score to get yourself in the dance. So

1717
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:03,599
Speaker 3: to me, it's about weapons, weapons, weapons, weapons, weapons, weapons, weapons, weapons.

1718
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:06,680
Speaker 3: You can heck, I'd even take the kid out of

1719
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:08,560
Speaker 3: Penn State if you like him that much. For the

1720
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 3: offense you want to run, and you're gonna be like,

1721
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 3: you know what, we don't have the depth at receiver,

1722
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 3: but we got Judy, We've got Tillman, maybe a draft

1723
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:16,560
Speaker 3: one as well. And you say we're going to go,

1724
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 3: you know, twelve personnel and our two tight ends are

1725
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 3: gonna be in a Joku and Warren. Yeah, with those

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01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 3: two receivers, Okay, yep, that's going to be difficult.

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01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 2: To match up with.

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01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 3: It's got you've got to score the football. And I

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01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 3: think the idea that you know, Abdul Carter, get you know,

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01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 3: get Miles, the first real like stud that's been across room.

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01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 3: I mean, Zadaris Smith had three straight ten SAX seasons

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01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 3: or three of the last four. In his three last

1733
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 3: healthy seasons ten SAX seasons with the Browns, Clowney was here,

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01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:48,400
Speaker 3: who was former number one overall picking the drafts good.

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01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 3: He's had good running mates. And by the way, the

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01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:57,719
Speaker 3: Steelers have in Wat and high Smith an incredibly productive

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01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 3: duo in and Neil Hunter and Will Anderson, the Texans

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01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 3: have an.

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01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 2: Incredibly productive duel.

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01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 3: Now in the case of the Steelers, it doesn't matter

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01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 3: SA they don't have a quarterback in Okay, so the Texans.

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01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 2: You still like c J.

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01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 3: Stroud, but this year he didn't play necessarily at the

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01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 3: level that he had played at previously. But you at

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01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 3: least have the quarterback there. Until this team gets a quarterback,

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01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 3: I don't know how much any of this other stuff matters.

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01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 3: And that's just And maybe I'm being hyperbolic when I

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01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 3: say that, but I don't think so. And if cam

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01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:29,679
Speaker 3: Ward is a great fit for the Giants at three

1750
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:35,600
Speaker 3: and Shadur Sanders toughest accuracy and decision making are something

1751
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 3: Tom Brady's gonna love, get him on my team. Yeah, yes,

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01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 3: you and I see this similarly, Yeah, And I don't

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01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:47,679
Speaker 3: I think everything else.

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01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 2: You have coined it the correct way. It's the perfect

1755
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 2: way to sum this up.

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01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:57,320
Speaker 3: Either number two has to directly land you the future

1757
01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 3: quarterback or nothing is guaranteed. Their outcome is not guaranteed. No,

1758
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 3: there's you gotta you have to stop thinking that way.

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01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 3: Here's because you've been burnt before.

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01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:09,880
Speaker 2: And by the way, you've only had two bites at

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01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 2: this apples Couch and Baker, and I am convinced that

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01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 2: Couch and other circumstances would have been just fine. He

1763
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 2: just was going to an expansion team and an era

1764
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:19,639
Speaker 2: when it was when they would really rig the system

1765
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 2: for expansion teams like brutal roster that he got paratrooped into.

1766
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:24,680
Speaker 2: And then your face of the franchise. We saw it

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01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 2: with uh with David davidkar too, Derek's brother, same thing

1768
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 2: in Houston, had to be the face of the franchise,

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01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 2: and he just gets battered and beaten and he's never

1770
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 2: the same. I think both those guys have been fine

1771
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 2: if they were drafting other circumstances, and Bake turned out

1772
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:39,800
Speaker 2: just fine. Right, You're like you those are the only

1773
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 2: times you picked number one. All the rest it was

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01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 2: trying to make things work like you're gonna have to

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01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:46,840
Speaker 2: get your number one quarterback in this draft, or the

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01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:49,120
Speaker 2: second quarterback in this draft. You're gonna get it number two.

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01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 2: That's fact fact, and it's an undisputed effect.

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01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:58,400
Speaker 3: Here's the other thing, taking a quarterback at one or

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01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 3: two in the and Sam Radford's draft was the last

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01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 3: one where they were guaranteed top dollar. They're not anymore.

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01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 3: They're not at all.

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01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:09,519
Speaker 2: No, so look at it.

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01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 3: Doesn't cripple your franchise at all if it doesn't work out.

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01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:13,879
Speaker 3: But you've got to take the swings.

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01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 2: It's look at the Look at the Jets swinging at it.

1786
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:19,639
Speaker 2: Look at the Titans swinging at it. Think of the Bucks.

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01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of these guys you move off.

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01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 2: Think about any people the Jets have drafted high, Zach Wilson,

1789
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:27,680
Speaker 2: Sam Darnold, and then Rogers came available. But they kept

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01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 2: swinging until you land on one. You got to hit

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01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 2: on that position.

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01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 3: You have to.

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01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 2: I love it. I mean even the Niners example is

1794
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 2: a good example for us. They swung big with Trey Lance,

1795
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:39,639
Speaker 2: kind of like our Watson trade all in, like give

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01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 2: us now. They get all of the great.

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01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:45,639
Speaker 3: Outlier of outline because they got the outlier of outlier,

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01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 3: but they still drafted him.

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01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:50,599
Speaker 2: They drafted two quarterbacks in that draft. They drafted Lance

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01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:52,840
Speaker 2: high and they drafted him late, and they brought him

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01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 2: both in. Sign me up so many bites at the

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01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:58,639
Speaker 2: apple as possible. If you don't have it, you have nothing.

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01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 2: You went over it. It's a plan. Is quarterback at two.

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01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:07,680
Speaker 3: Danny dimes or justin fields because I think Darnold will

1805
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 3: be cost prohibitive. I think he's gonna get like thirty

1806
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 3: millions somewhere. He's gonna get kind of in that bake

1807
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 3: Genos Smith range. And then give me Will Howard or

1808
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:19,839
Speaker 3: Quinn yours in the third and let's go or McCord.

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01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 3: You know, if somebody people maybe some I've heard somebody say,

1810
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 3: oh it's a great fit for us. Fine, gip whatever.

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01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:28,920
Speaker 3: Two rookies, a veteran that was a former first rounder,

1812
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:33,639
Speaker 3: and let's go. Let's go attack that position aggressively. Yeah,

1813
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:38,599
Speaker 3: because again I'll say it, in our division are Joe

1814
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:41,759
Speaker 3: Burrow and Lamar Jackson. If Joe Burrow had a defense

1815
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 3: this year, he wins MVP. Lamar Jackson probably won't because

1816
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 3: of the fatigue, and he's still never been to a

1817
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:48,559
Speaker 3: super Bowl and he's won twice, but he should have.

1818
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 2: Been the MVP he had.

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01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:52,599
Speaker 3: You could make a case that he had the most

1820
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 3: insane greatest statistical season of quarterbacks ever had.

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01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:02,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's right there with the Mahomes year his first

1822
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:05,479
Speaker 2: year starting when he threw for fifty touchdowns and nearly

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01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:08,280
Speaker 2: six thousand yards or whatever. It's right there with the

1824
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 2: Manning year in Denver, the Brady year with Moss like

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01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 2: it's that it's for nine hundred yards. Yeah, it's that

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01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 2: type of just pantheon season that Lamar had, Pantheon season.

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01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 2: They're in our division. They gonna beat him. Man, what

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01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:25,400
Speaker 2: are you doing?

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01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 3: Then Josh Allen, who can't even get to the super

1830
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:29,360
Speaker 3: Bowl himself, who many people think will be the MVP

1831
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 3: the season. By the way, Lamar Jackson's two time MVP

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01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 3: should be three times. He hasn't been able to get

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01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 3: to the super Bowl. Burrow's gotten there once, and then

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01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 3: you got Mahomes who goes every year. Yeah, he's in

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01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 3: your conference, Herbert, They're gonna be a force for a while,

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01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:45,880
Speaker 3: like c. J. Stroud they got they've been they've been

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01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:49,080
Speaker 3: the division winner two years. You're gonna have to beat

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01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 3: they've won years. At a minimum, you're gonna have to

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01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:56,240
Speaker 3: beat two of that top four most likely to go

1840
01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:56,559
Speaker 3: to a.

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01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 2: To a super Bowl. Yeah, and if you can't do,

1842
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 2: they don't have one. You ain't one. No, no, so

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Speaker 2: This is all going to start to come pretty fast

1848
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:33,559
Speaker 2: and furious. Senior Bowl this week end of the month,

1849
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:37,960
Speaker 2: the combine free agency to follow, so a lot of

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01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 2: this stuff is going to start to uh, start to

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01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:41,760
Speaker 2: roll here pretty quickly, my friend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is it's go time, folks. I mean, we

1853
01:29:46,240 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 3: got the Super Bowl left, but that's for two teams

1854
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 3: to worry about. Everybody else is focused on getting their

1855
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 3: team is better. And it's ironic that you know, we

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01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:56,120
Speaker 3: think of it's all draft draft, draft, draft, draft. But

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01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 3: of course, as you pointed out, for we had free agency,

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01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:01,479
Speaker 3: we had draft talk about with AB earlier or heard

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01:30:01,479 --> 01:30:02,639
Speaker 3: from ABE about that earlier.

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01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:04,880
Speaker 2: So this is an opportunity to.

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01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 3: Change this team and you can absolutely turn it around quickly.

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01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:14,720
Speaker 2: That's the goal.

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01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:15,200
Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: The other thing is you're going through these positional reviews,

1865
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 2: like there's so many things that are floating out there,

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01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:21,960
Speaker 2: Like the Joka thing is floating out there very very bigly,

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01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:25,360
Speaker 2: like Potonio Potonio Tilman. Like Tilman didn't play for the

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01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 2: whole end of the season, so there's who knows what's

1869
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:30,800
Speaker 2: going on there. I mean, that's alarming. Buttonio's floating like

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01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:32,719
Speaker 2: there are some things that they need to have answers

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01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:35,280
Speaker 2: to before that they can embark on any now.

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01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:38,000
Speaker 3: Coming off of a serious injury. Dwan Jones is coming.

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01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:39,799
Speaker 2: Off of a serious injury. He may have those answers

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01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:42,320
Speaker 2: and we're just not privy to them, which is fine,

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01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 2: we're not entitled to it. But at the same time,

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01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:47,120
Speaker 2: they need to have answers on those things before you

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01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:49,439
Speaker 2: can have some sort of plan for the off season

1878
01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:52,160
Speaker 2: free agency first, that eventually the draft. So we'll be

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01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:54,519
Speaker 2: here every step of the way. The next level is

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Speaker 2: coming up next. Thanks for listening, Body Cleared, The Browns Daily,

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