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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal I'll that for me. I'm

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Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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Speaker 1: for Dake Edith state is that?

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Speaker 2: Whoo whoom and down and Ty, welcome back to the

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Speaker 2: solid Verba boys and girls. My name is Ty Hildebrand,

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Speaker 2: joining me as always a fine gentleman over there in

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Speaker 2: New York City, a gentleman by the name of Dan Rubinstein.

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Speaker 1: Sir, how are you? I'm great, Ty, And you know this.

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Speaker 1: You have so many relationships, excuse me, relationships in this life.

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Speaker 1: Only one or two are going to last. You go

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Speaker 1: through all the pain and strife and you turn your

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Speaker 1: back and they're gone so fast, Tied, They're gone so fast.

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Speaker 1: So hold on the ones who really care. In the end,

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Speaker 1: they'll be the only ones there. Ty, you should know

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Speaker 1: that I have no idea. Is that true?

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Speaker 2: I swear to God, I don't know. I don't know

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Speaker 2: what the lyrics are.

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Speaker 1: So the next line is hmmm, no, I looked at

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Speaker 1: the lyrics and I had no idea. When you do

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Speaker 1: the dramatic reading of it like that without any Commenthrosia, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: damn Hanson huh, A little bit of Hansen just I

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Speaker 1: was only doing ninety like late nineties to currents, and

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Speaker 1: I just thought, and there's a reason that I was

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Speaker 2: So you've been doing this thing where you go back

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Speaker 2: like fifteen twenty years, and I'm just not prepared for that.

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Speaker 2: My mind has like a ten year window in which

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Speaker 1: But okay, sure there's actually a pre chorus, because that's

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Speaker 1: what can you tell me that that whole part? And

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Speaker 1: then it's themba hey, on the topic agress, on the

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Speaker 1: topic of music. I have some breaking please.

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Speaker 2: I received an email from a concert citizen. Bo thank you,

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Speaker 2: thank you. Yeah, you received an email from a concern citizen,

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Speaker 2: A concerned citizen that you have besmirched the good name

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Speaker 2: of an iconic nineteenth century classic composer, classical composer.

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Speaker 1: I should say devorak uh ah, that's how I pronounced it.

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Speaker 2: Devorak is rolling over in his grave because it's Antony

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Speaker 2: Divorgak devorg devorg Aq.

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Speaker 1: I gotta say, ty, we were not inundated with corrections, now,

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Speaker 2: I said that he winced physically winced in pain upon

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Speaker 2: hearing your divorak, and that this was an opportunity to

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Speaker 2: make up for all the ribbing you've given me about globe,

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Speaker 1: brioche are used more often in everyday vernacular. Well that's

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Speaker 1: your opinion, Dan, Devorax sounds like the name of a

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Speaker 1: Mortal Kombat character added in, like Mortal Kombat three and

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Speaker 2: Thank you to everyone out there for writing in, for

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Speaker 2: listening in, for calling in, for texting. In Week ten

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Speaker 2: is going to be busy. Dan and I both have

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Speaker 2: a ton of energy. He is jazzed up and ready

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Speaker 2: to say, we've got a lot to discuss, don't forget.

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Speaker 2: the weekend at four oh eight verb one, that is

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Speaker 1: But this has sort of been brewing. Oh yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: It is an enormous job. It is a difficult job,

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Speaker 1: rightfully have started looking in the direction of Dan Mullen.

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Speaker 1: terms of likelihood. But you know, it's coaching higher season Ty,

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Speaker 2: and you're right, it's going to be a tough job.

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Speaker 2: My money would be on Dan Mullen at this point

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Speaker 1: And coached under Scott Strickland, who is the current Florida

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Speaker 1: So most of the teams, at least in the top

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Speaker 1: No, is there anybody far away from say the top

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Speaker 1: But they're team you know that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well we'll leave it at that. Week nine

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Speaker 2: just ended. We're going to talk about Week ten here momentarily,

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Speaker 2: want to talk about the shirts and what's going on?

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Speaker 1: Yes, so we are. I believe it will be next week.

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Speaker 1: We are releasing the shirts. We just previously sold the

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Speaker 1: green shirts with the icons and the fun weirdness everywhere.

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Speaker 1: We are releasing them through Cotton Bureau, both a men's

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Speaker 1: or unisex cut and a women's cut, so there will

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Speaker 2: People have been asking for the women's cut for a

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Speaker 1: Yes, there will be women's sizes. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: Michigan State is the best bad team in the country. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's how I feel. They've lost in triple overtime last

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Speaker 1: ILK. That's the best I can do here for Michigan State.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. I think they've got a top

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Speaker 1: Look at you, twenty three to twenty Penn State. WHOA.

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Speaker 1: See what happened to my Arizona State USC.

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Speaker 2: Apology, you're not getting an apology.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I owe you nothing. Dog. Michigan State.

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Speaker 2: They play defense, but that's about it. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: They're inefficient on offense. He mentioned, they don't generate big plays.

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Speaker 2: They stink at finishing drives. I'm saying Penn State wins

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're wrong, thirty eight twenty Penn State. Wow, all right,

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Speaker 2: That kind of makes this game, at least on Wednesday

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Speaker 1: Let's split the difference and make a pick. Assuming he

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Speaker 1: You want me to give you the weather wrinkle, Okay,

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Speaker 2: That probably favors Stanford, doesn't it.

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Speaker 1: It probably favors Stanford. Lukewk is starting for Wazoo at

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Speaker 1: he perhaps used to. They don't generate big plays. They

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Speaker 1: don't have those big play receivers in the way that

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Speaker 1: they did these past few years. They start out games

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Speaker 1: really slowly. I like their defense. This is a good defense.

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Speaker 1: They still have too many plays, which if it's a

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Speaker 1: fully healthy Brice Love, that's a problem. But I don't

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Speaker 1: anticipate that either way. I just don't like what I'm

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Speaker 1: seeing from Stanford. I don't like their defense. I don't

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Speaker 1: like their passing way. Maybe they start kJ Costello ty,

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Speaker 1: I know, I know. I'm with you on defense, though.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a very valid point because Stanford has

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Speaker 2: typically always had a really good defense that they can

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Speaker 2: fall back on. They they've never really had like a

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Speaker 2: super electrifying offense. They've always had one key component that

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Speaker 2: they get builder electrifying player.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Sure, right.

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Speaker 2: They had Christian McCaffrey last year and the year before

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Speaker 2: and the year before, they were able to build around him.

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Speaker 2: But if they don't have Bryce Love or even if

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Speaker 2: he's limited, I think that drastically limits what they can

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Speaker 2: do on offense, and then without a defense that they

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Speaker 2: can fall back on as in years past, it definitely

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Speaker 2: opens the door for a team like Wazoo. I wanted

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Speaker 2: to point this out though, because it's interesting. Just about

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Speaker 2: every advanced metric system I can find has Wazoo winning

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Speaker 2: the game. Most of them have WAZU covering. Bill Connolly

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Speaker 2: in S and P plus has Wazoo winning by one

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Speaker 2: point seven points, which would mean that Stanford covers beyond that.

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Speaker 2: ESPN's FPI, their Football Power Index, has Stanford at minus

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Speaker 2: eight on a neutral field, which is rare. It's rare

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Speaker 2: that you see such a big disparity. But FPI is

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Speaker 2: all in on Stanford. Everyone else. I think consensus is

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Speaker 2: in on Washington State. My intuition is that Washington State

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Speaker 2: is a better offense and a good enough defense to

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Speaker 2: hold down Stanford. The line screams Stanford to me like

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Speaker 2: there's something I'm missing, and I know I fall victim

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Speaker 2: to it every year with a matchup like this, where

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Speaker 2: one team's got demonstrably better at offense and the other

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Speaker 2: is just kind of a vanilla offense that plays a

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Speaker 2: little defense. I went back and forth ten times when

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna stick to my guns here and go Wazoo.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Wazoo to win at home despite the

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Speaker 2: weather and cover what two points spread?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm gonna take Wazoo here. I think they

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Speaker 1: win by ten. I have twenty seven to seventeen. They

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Speaker 1: won by twenty five last twenty six with twenty six months,

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Speaker 1: excuse me, a better offense a lesser defense last year.

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Speaker 1: So I think they're all right. I think they win

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Speaker 1: this game. I think there's a number of ways. I

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Speaker 1: think they can force turnovers. I know that if Keller

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Speaker 1: Chris starts this game, Stanford is gonna go three and

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Speaker 1: out far more often than they like. So twenty seven

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Speaker 1: to seventeen WAZU.

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Speaker 2: Also at three point thirty on ABC, We've got Clemson.

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Speaker 2: We've got them on the road, a seven and a

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Speaker 2: half point favorite. For what it's worth, I believe that

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Speaker 2: NC State was the site of the last official zenning.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, there yeah, Okay. How much of NC State's

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Speaker 2: game plan do you think was affected last week when

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Speaker 2: their starting tailback Nahem Heines went down.

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Speaker 1: A good amount? But they were not an overwhelming rushing

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Speaker 1: team even coming into that game. And I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: that's how you beat Notre Dame anyway. You probably beat

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame with bigger plays and keeping the defense on

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Speaker 1: the field and tiring them out. But I maybe a

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Speaker 1: significant not a significant as a small chunk, but not overwhelming.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like Hines will be okay and that he's

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Speaker 2: going to play against Clemson, and perhaps that will change

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Speaker 2: things in favor of NC State. Maybe they'll look a

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Speaker 2: little bit better, a little more balanced. I still think

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Speaker 2: they're a really solid team NC State. You could tell

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Speaker 2: that they're out there, that they've got organization, that they've

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Speaker 2: got a game plan that they're trying to execute. All

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Speaker 2: that being said, that defense, that defense got worn down

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Speaker 2: against Notre Dame, and offensively, Clemson can do a lot

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Speaker 2: of the same stuff. They can probably do a lot

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Speaker 2: of it better than Notre Dame. Certainly through the air

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Speaker 2: with Kelly Bryant, he's been very effective. This would normally

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Speaker 2: be a spot where I think I'd invent a way

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Speaker 2: for Clemson to lose because I'm rooting for chaos and

512
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Speaker 2: it would make playoff rankings a little bit more interesting.

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Speaker 2: I am going to refrain from doing that. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to show some self restraint from doing that this year

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Speaker 2: because I think Clemson's defense is going to hold down

516
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Speaker 2: NC State. I think they might be even better at

517
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Speaker 2: doing it than Notre Dame seven and a half points

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Speaker 2: block of the week, I am all in on Clemson.

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Speaker 2: Not give me, give me the Tigers by a thirty

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Speaker 2: one to fourteen final.

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Speaker 1: Here I have I have thirty to thirteen Clemson written

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Speaker 1: in my No. Really, yes, we are simpaticole. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: we agree. Clemson is sort of in the process of

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Speaker 1: rebuilding momentum now with a healthier Kelly Bryant. I still

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Speaker 1: don't fully know if his ankle is back to where

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Speaker 1: it should be. And NC State, as you mentioned, resetting

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Speaker 1: after I would say a comfortable Notre Dame loss, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I'm resetting what I think about NC State

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Speaker 1: because we are resetting what we think of Florida State

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Speaker 1: and Louisville right ye after total and colleges, they haven't

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Speaker 1: looked all that great, so we have to recalibrate. I

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Speaker 1: think our opinion, our collective opinion of NC State. They

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Speaker 1: feel to me like the best appetizer at an awkward wedding, like,

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Speaker 1: oh we can, yes, we can appreciate certain things about you,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not sure you are the biggest deal that

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Speaker 1: we are going to remember about twenty seventeen. The best

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Speaker 1: thing they still do is control the ball through the air.

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Speaker 1: There's an efficiency there to Ryan Finley and what he does.

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Speaker 1: There's talent up front, but they I don't think this

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Speaker 1: defense is, particularly as a whole, all that effective. I

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Speaker 1: think Clemson is going to regain momentum. They were a

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Speaker 1: little bit sluggish against Georgia Tech and really bad weather.

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Speaker 1: With a return of Kelly Bryant, think they're going to

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Speaker 1: be healthier. And I think the defensive line, much like

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Speaker 1: what Notre Dame did, I think they're going to swarm

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Speaker 1: Ryan Finley again. Seventeen point Clemson win.

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Speaker 2: There are going to be a lot of NC State

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Speaker 2: fans out there now that the playoff rankings have been revealed.

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Speaker 2: If you're a Penn State fan, you're going to be

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Speaker 2: rooting like hell for NC State. If you're an Oklaholma fan. Really,

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Speaker 2: if you're any fan outside of those top four teams

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Speaker 2: and your team has a legit chance of making the

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Speaker 2: playoffs down the stretch here, you're going to be rooting

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Speaker 2: for Ency State because this is one of the few

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Speaker 2: have limbs on the Clemson schedule where there is some

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Speaker 2: potential for things to get a little bit, a little

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Speaker 2: bit wild.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, have fun with that.

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Speaker 2: Dan and I in Unison going seventeen points in favor

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Speaker 2: of Clemson, do you also want to lock that up?

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not going to double lock. I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to double barrel.

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Speaker 2: I'm standing up here, I'm yelling ato the microphone. I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm also standing It is bedlam time. Four pm. FS one,

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma State number eleven in your college football playoff rankings.

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Speaker 2: After Week nine, they are a three point home favorite

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Speaker 2: over the Oklahoma Sooners.

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Speaker 1: Dan, mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: This big game, this big game huge, It's bedlam. Hey,

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Speaker 2: feeling tie, I have no idea how to pick this game?

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Speaker 1: How about you? Well, First of all, it's an early

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Speaker 1: bedlam because they don't want to rematch next week, as

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Speaker 1: Playoff hunt. Both had I would say somewhat uneven games.

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Speaker 1: Last week, Texas texts fared really nicely. Yeah against Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma State. Even though the defense actually came to play

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Speaker 1: pretty nicely against West Virginia offensively, they turned the ball

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Speaker 1: West Virginia points and they sort of crawled back into

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Speaker 1: that game. Fun and not so fun fact all at

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Speaker 1: the same time. Mike Gundy two to ten, Yeah, ors Oklahoma.

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Speaker 2: I found that little factoid as well. I have a

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Speaker 2: on the field do you trust the least.

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Speaker 1: I'll be Oklahoma's defense.

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma's defense. That's the real liability here, and there is

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Speaker 2: a glaring weakness that jumps off the page if you

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Speaker 2: try to compare these two teams. Oklahoma's ability to limit

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Speaker 2: big pass plays. That's a problem. There are one hundred

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Speaker 2: and twenty first in the nation according to the S

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Speaker 2: big plays in the passing game. And the light of course,

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Speaker 2: by our boy Junkyard Jim Washington obvious still averaging over

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Speaker 2: That to me is a problem because when you got

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Speaker 2: a defense that, let's be honest, is not elite. What

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Speaker 2: happens when you've got a defense that needs to respect

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Speaker 2: the deep ball Dan, you.

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Speaker 1: Should be able to run a little bit on them.

649
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 2: You should be able to run, and it should open

650
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 2: up some roots in the intermediate passing game as well.

651
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 2: So I think a really strong game for the Justice

652
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 2: King Legal team in the backfield and still over and

653
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: I think a huge win in Bedlam for the home

654
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 2: team Oklahoma State. Now, when I say huge, I don't

655
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,439
Speaker 2: mean twenty points, but I think for the most part

656
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 2: of back and forth game, I think a lot of points.

657
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 2: I'm going to say Oklahoma State by a thirty eight

658
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 2: to thirty one margin.

659
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: Here. Wow, Okay, So the only thing I will challenge

660
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: you on, We'll not challenge you, but sort of an

661
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: addendum to your opening question. The worst thing in this

662
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: game may be Oklahoma's defense, but the best thing maybe

663
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 1: Oklahoma's offense. Agreed, Agreed, So that's a slight wrinkle. Oklahoma

664
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: State's offense, though, is obviously quite balanced. They struggle it

665
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: a little bit when they when they go workhorse, when

666
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: they say, okay, you are the running back and you

667
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: were going to carry them ball thirty times. They've struggled

668
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: in games where that's been JD King a little bit

669
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: last week against West Virginia. They've struggled when that's been

670
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: Justice Hill, when they spread the ball out evenly and

671
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: everybody's getting touches. That's when Oklahoma State is at their best.

672
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: Didn't they against Pitt Didn't four receivers go over one

673
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: hundred yards something like that?

674
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

675
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that is when Oklahoma State is at their best.

676
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: And certainly they can generate the kind of yardage against

677
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: Oklahoma to have silly numbers at times. Oklahoma on there

678
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: and they are the best offense, even though they're they're

679
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: sort of start pinned way too much because of their

680
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: own defense and special teams and giving up a lot

681
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: of big plays, whatever the case may be. I just

682
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: think right now, a suspect defense on the road in

683
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: a rivalry game, even though they are even with those

684
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: three points and taking the points in a shootout, I

685
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: still think it's me more than that field goal. I

686
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: have Oklahoma State by six forty to thirty four. Still

687
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 1: think it's back and forth. But I think that's that's

688
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: my final Okay, Ty, yeah, please lock it up. Block

689
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 1: of the Week, Dan.

690
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 2: I admire the cojones it takes to lock up the

691
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: bedlam game because you know, typically what we're supposed to

692
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 2: do in a rivalry game such as this, right, oh, true,

693
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: got to throw out the records, throw them out, just

694
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 2: throw them out the window. In this case, I believe

695
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 2: I have the same record, but still just take them

696
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: and throw them out the window.

697
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter.

698
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 2: True, All right, let's go to eight pm on CBS.

699
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 2: We've got Alabama at home. Wow, twenty one and a

700
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 2: half points the favorite over LSU. An absolute f ton

701
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: of points here, But it's sort of sort of makes sense.

702
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: Right.

703
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 2: If I'm Alabama, I've got a good enough defense to

704
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 2: stack the box and force Danny Ettling to beat me.

705
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 1: And in the face of that equation.

706
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 2: Twenty one points given my offense, given my own propensity

707
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 2: to run and score and beat you any number of

708
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 2: different ways, twenty one points makes a little bit more

709
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 2: sense there, does it not?

710
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: It makes some amount of sense. Yes, it's in Tuscaloosa,

711
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: both teams coming off of bye right, I believe so

712
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: that is correct. Yeah, Yeah, Alabama's offense has been great.

713
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: If there's any sort of weird part, any sort of

714
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: wrinkle that you can get Alabama to shrink a little

715
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: bit with it's downfield passing, Jalen Hurts still hasn't been

716
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: the best when pressed to do that against the better teams,

717
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: which is not a lot of teams, mind you, on

718
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: Alabama's schedule. But everything else is great. If you really

719
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: want to test what Alabama may not do well, you

720
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 1: got a force third and definite passing downs. You cannot

721
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: let them drive down the field. And obviously offensively against Alabama,

722
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: you have to take chances. You have to whatever the

723
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: case may be. You cannot run into the teeth of

724
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: their defense. And LSU is will have plays called by

725
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 1: Matt Canada. He will take chances. There will be wrinkles,

726
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: there will be fun hopefully to this LSU offense. When

727
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: Darius Guys is healthy. They are a great rushing team.

728
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: You would think that would open up exclosive passing plays

729
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: and it does. The problem is they don't have those

730
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: in between third and seven, nine yard hitch, nine yard

731
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: slant whatever. That's the problem. So LSU is developing receivers.

732
00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: I am worried about LSU's special teams, but LSU, I

733
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: think can do enough to barely not lose by more

734
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: than twenty two points. A little backdoor cover action, a

735
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: little back door cover, and listen, Alabama is not in

736
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: a position even with a schedule that is so so

737
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 1: right now, they're going to get the benefit of the doubt,

738
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: or as I'm sure the playoff committee has called it,

739
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: behind closed doors, the benny of the d sure, right, yeah,

740
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: of course, the benny of the DT that's what we

741
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 1: call it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what the true pros

742
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: call it. So they're going to try to keep their

743
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: pedal down if fallas you can't sustain drives. But LSU

744
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: covers and loses thirty thirty four to fourteen.

745
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 2: I think this has all the makings of a good

746
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 2: old fashioned Alabama crock.

747
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: Potting preparing to make that tender.

748
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're looking at a crock potting. Here, give

749
00:39:55,560 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 2: me Alabama by twenty four points. Okay, maybe a little

750
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: bit of a front door cover.

751
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: There are a lot of dogs that just heard that

752
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: tie and are very confused.

753
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 2: Also at eight pm on ABC Virginia Tech two and

754
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 2: a half point road favorite against the Miami Hurricanes. Dan.

755
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: I read a blog post this week that labeled Miami

756
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 2: as a completely dominant team okay, the first nine weeks

757
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 2: of the season.

758
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 1: I was it written by somebody with the last name Ricked.

759
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: I don't know.

760
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 2: I was wondering if I missed a memo on that one.

761
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: Even Mark Richt has had his own questions about Miami.

762
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 2: He's talked ad nauseum about how his team hasn't been consistent.

763
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 2: They haven't necessarily gotten off to the fastest of starts.

764
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 2: When the offense has played well, the defense has not.

765
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 2: They haven't had all phases of their offense working at

766
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 2: the same time they've had injuries. It hasn't quite been

767
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 2: the well oiled machine that you might expect for an

768
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 2: undefeated Top ten playoff contender. This is one of those weeks, though,

769
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 2: where they're gonna have a chance to show us their medal.

770
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: They've got a really good Virginia Tech team coming to town.

771
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 2: They are a slight underdog, which gives us a lot

772
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 2: of home dog potential. I am not so sure, upon

773
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 2: deeper examination, how I feel about Virginia Tech's offense against

774
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 2: a really good defense. You know, you can say a

775
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 2: lot about Miami and some of their own transgressions, excuse me,

776
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 2: and Lord knows that all holds a lot of water.

777
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 2: But I'm just not sure how I should feel about

778
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech's offense because Miami does have a good defense,

779
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 2: and our only real data set about the Hokies at

780
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 2: this point is how they play it against Clemson. And

781
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: it's tough to gauge because everyone has trouble against Clemson,

782
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 2: but gosh, they haven't had a whole lot of experience

783
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 2: this season against really good defenses.

784
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: So Miami hasn't won comfortably since September, right, correct, And

785
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 1: upon if we're going to reset about NC State, if

786
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: we are going to not fully reset because Virginia Tech

787
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: lost to Clemson, and that's totally fine, But Virginia Tech's

788
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: biggest acc win upon reset is Boston College BC. It's BC,

789
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: which is testament to b C in the season they've

790
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: had in turning things around, but doesn't tell us a

791
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: ton right now about where Virginia Tech is especially offensively.

792
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: I would say defensively, I think we can trust that

793
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: they're in a very good position, and we know Miami

794
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: for on their end, They just they start off slow.

795
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 1: Malik Rogier had a very good game last week when

796
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 1: the running game didn't, and so they have been able

797
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: to really put together a complete game. Like you mentioned,

798
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: h They've been pretty good on third down, which I

799
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: like to see to sustain drives. They've been able to

800
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 1: generate sort of bigger runs even with Mark Walton being

801
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: out out for more than a month now. I think

802
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: at this point around a month, it's a good matchup

803
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 1: for Miami. I like Miami's pass defense against Virginia Tech's

804
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: passing game because that's what they do better. If Virginia

805
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: Tech was better at generating more impressive runs on the ground,

806
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: I know there's talent there, but if they were a

807
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: better rushing team, I'd be more worried about Virginia Tech

808
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 1: on the road as favorites, mind you, but yeah, they

809
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: themselves now are giving up bigger passes, and that's where

810
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: Malik ro She is developing nicely. I just think it's

811
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: a good matchup. Virginia Tech Hokies don't run well enough

812
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: to take advantage. I have Miami twenty four to twenty outright.

813
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: I have Miami outright as well. Let's name them home

814
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: dog of the week, Kers home dog of the week.

815
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech. In looking at them, their strength is their

816
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 2: passing game and their defense. And Miami also has a

817
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 2: very good pass defense in an offense that can actually

818
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 2: generate big plays, which is a weakness for Virginia Tech. So,

819
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 2: as I said earlier when we were looking at Bedlam,

820
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 2: it's a good matchup in that one team can generate

821
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 2: big plays and the other has some trouble in stopping them. Yeah,

822
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: sometimes it's not more complicated than that. I've got Miami

823
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 2: outright twenty eight, twenty four. Nice matchup for them.

824
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, these are the offenses that Virginia Tech has played

825
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: since opening up against what I think we considered be

826
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: a pretty good West Virginia offense right now, and that

827
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: would be Delaware, East Carolina, Old Dominion, Clemson, which is good.

828
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: I would say, BC, North Carolina and Duke. There's not

829
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:44,919
Speaker 1: a lot of meat there.

830
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 2: Not a lot of meat. By the way, that sound

831
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 2: that you hear is a million Virginia Tech fans clapping

832
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 2: in unison that we picked Miami to win out right.

833
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, happy to do it.

834
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 2: And finally here before we get to a bunch of

835
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 2: other notable games A ten to forty five pack twelve

836
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 2: after Dark on ESPN. We've got a very grateful USC

837
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 2: team minus eight at home against the Arizona Wildcats. The

838
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 2: streaking Arizona Wildcats led by Khalil Tait. The Arizona Wildcats

839
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 2: also play zero defense, so if they win this game,

840
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: If they win this game, we really need to get

841
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 2: the Tater Tots out there for Khalil Tait in this

842
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 2: Heiden campaign.

843
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get this idea to Arizona. Come on, this

844
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: is not a wonderful year for dual threat quarterbacks in

845
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: Heisman conversations. Kalil Tate's doing an amazing job. How can

846
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: you vote against the Tater Tots? Kids with Tater Tots shirts? Adorable, adorable.

847
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, this could be a real thing. This

848
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 2: could work.

849
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 1: We've had worse ideas.

850
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 2: If they win this game, Yeah, his name is going

851
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 2: to be in like the top six. It has to be,

852
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 2: because he will have single handedly propelled Arizona to what

853
00:45:58,840 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: seven to two?

854
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, a top ten offense in the country.

855
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 2: USC might not be playoff worthy, but a win on

856
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: the road at USC is still a quality win.

857
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's still quality. USC did a nice job

858
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: last week against ASU resetting their own season. We talk

859
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: about in previous weeks, you know, Sudoku games, and by

860
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: that we mean, okay, you filled in this number in

861
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 1: your Sudoku puzzle, and now it just it's a clearer picture. Okay,

862
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: there's a four here. Okay, North Carolina might just be

863
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: very bad that kind of thing. The PAC twelve is

864
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: just all crossed out numbers everywhere. There's no sense to

865
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 1: the pack twelve Sadoku. So with that big win over ASU,

866
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: we I think reset that. Okay, USC's at least pretty good.

867
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: Arizona had an enormous win over Washington State, who you know,

868
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: obviously had already beaten USC a few weeks prior. When

869
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: they're not turning it over, USC's offense is it can

870
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: be very good. And I believe they get Stephen Carr back.

871
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: They're not really back up, but they're number two running back,

872
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: which I think is a big deal for how this

873
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: offense operates. And the defense is pretty good. I like

874
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 1: some of their pass rushing options when they're not allowing

875
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 1: big plays and tie they're playing against mister big play.

876
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: Yeah right, Kalil Tate. I don't love Arizona's defense. But

877
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 1: this is a big play offense. When Khalil Tate is

878
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: rolling and he throws the ball really nicely, he throws

879
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 1: a pretty ball. He's averaging something like twelve or thirteen

880
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: yards per past attempt in some of the bigger games

881
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: he's played. I'd like this Arizona team, but I think

882
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 1: it's kind of a bad matchup.

883
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 2: Oh, it's a horrible matchup for them.

884
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: I think it's it's unfortunate. I still think he's going

885
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 1: to get yardage and will be fun. I think USC

886
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,760
Speaker 1: wins in a shootout tie. I don't think USC covers.

887
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: I have forty one thirty eight really see.

888
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 2: I just I don't see Arizona stopping USC at all.

889
00:47:55,640 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 2: And I trust USC's defense to get more stops than Arizona.

890
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 2: So I can certainly understand why you'd look at this

891
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 2: game and see some shootout potential. But I think I

892
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,439
Speaker 2: have more trust in USC's defense, even if it has

893
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 2: been disappointing at times this year. I still trust them

894
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 2: more than I do Arizonas, and I'm going to go

895
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 2: USC outright to win and cover, in part because that

896
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 2: is truly what I believe, and also in part because

897
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 2: if I'm wrong, as I've been frequently on this show,

898
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: and Arizona does win outright, that would propel Khalil Tape

899
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 2: back into the real high discussion, not just not just

900
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 2: on the periphery here as a fable of the solid verbal.

901
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: Okay, so we disagree, order all right?

902
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 2: So we got to go quickly because there are a

903
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 2: bunch of other notable games here that we need to discuss.

904
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 2: Let's go back to noon on Saturday, ESPN televising Auburn,

905
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 2: a fourteen point road favorite at Texas A and M.

906
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 2: I see potentially potentially a look ahead spot here for

907
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 2: Auburn with a big game next week against Georgia. I

908
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 2: don't think A and M's good enough to win, but

909
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 2: I think they're good enough to cover.

910
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: I just agree Auburn coming off of a bye, I

911
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: think they're gonna run all over A and M, who

912
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: is going through quarterback issues and is going to leave

913
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: the defense on the field too much. Thirty four to

914
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: seventeen Tigers.

915
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,280
Speaker 2: Three point thirty on ESPN TOWO, We've got West Virginia

916
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 2: at home, three point favorite against the streaking cyclones of

917
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 2: Iowa State. Iowa State's got so much momentum right now,

918
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 2: Why would I ever want to pick against them? Plus,

919
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 2: they were my favorite team at the start of the season.

920
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 2: I'm going to keep coming back to it. I'm going

921
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 2: to keep patting myself on the back because I told

922
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 2: the fine gentlemen from the very fine country of Australia

923
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 2: that if he's picking a team, if he doesn't have

924
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 2: any other rooting allegiance, he should pick Iowa State.

925
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: They'll be fun.

926
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 2: Go clones, Go clones. So what the hell Iowa stayed outright?

927
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 2: Let's do it?

928
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have Iowa stayed outright as well. Turnovers, turnovers, turnovers, turnovers.

929
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: Iowa State is great at forcing them. West Virginia is

930
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 1: unfortunate at forcing themselves to give the ball to the

931
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 1: other team. So I'm long Iowa State outright as well.

932
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 1: Twenty to seventeen.

933
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 2: Speaking of the state of Iowa, we've got the Hawkeyes

934
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:22,240
Speaker 2: at home, a seventeen point home dog against Ohio State,

935
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 2: this one at three point thirty on ESPN. Will there

936
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 2: be any kind of letdown effect? Daniel for the Ohio

937
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 2: State Buck guys, remember they one by one at home,

938
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 2: a dramatic victory over Penn State. I don't think they're

939
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 2: gonna lose to Iowa. They shouldn't, but stranger things have happened.

940
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 2: Iowa plays a goofy vanilla style of college football. I

941
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 2: think they cover at home Dan they cover.

942
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: As do I It's yeah, the combination of a letdown

943
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: spot ty weather underground does not lead me wrong. Could

944
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: be a little bit soggy, some heavy rains come in

945
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: the morning. I know this game kicks off at three thirty.

946
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: Could be a little bit soggy, slow things down. Iowa

947
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: does a good job preventing bigger plays. They tackle well

948
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: enough in the open fields. Penn State barely gets by

949
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: them in a weird spot. I'm gonna say Iowa covers

950
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: this game thirty one seventeen buck eyes.

951
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,479
Speaker 2: You know what we need on this program, so many

952
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 2: things Ty, We need like a funky weather man, you

953
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 2: know how like every morning show they have the traffic

954
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:30,720
Speaker 2: person that talks about the local traffic. Yeah, of course

955
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 2: we need a funky weather man, someone who wears a

956
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 2: bow tie, or did you have one growing up that

957
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 2: was in like the the Allentown, Bethlehem, Northampton area. We

958
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 2: have one right now who many moons ago broken arm

959
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 2: and I'm not kidding. Did the morning forecast in a

960
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 2: giant sling after surgery?

961
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: Great?

962
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 2: And I felt horribly for him, and especially after having

963
00:51:56,239 --> 00:52:00,479
Speaker 2: my own shoulder issues, I know how painful that can be. Yeah,

964
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 2: but if that doesn't make for funny TV, I don't

965
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 2: know what does.

966
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: Sure, I'm all for it. We had one. I think

967
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,720
Speaker 1: he's still in La Fritz Coleman. I was on TV

968
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: with Fritz Coleman and my solar car team in the

969
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: eighth grade.

970
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 2: Ty, I'm gonna see what I can do for next

971
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 2: week's show. Okay, that's a promise.

972
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: Didn't Fox have Jillian Barbary doing stuff? Way?

973
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,439
Speaker 2: We need a funky weather man is what we need?

974
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: Weather person? Next game, Ty, Notre Dame Wake fourteen points.

975
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,280
Speaker 2: Notre Dame at home, fourteen points, three thirty on NBC.

976
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 2: The Wolford Wagon rolling. It's churning along, but so is

977
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 2: the thirty three trucking crew, Dan and Josh Adams. And yeah,

978
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 2: I'm feeling another two hundred yard game coming for Notre

979
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 2: Dame in this football game for Josh Adams. So yeah,

980
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 2: give me Notre Dame minus whatever here against Wake.

981
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: I was far away from the mic. The lights have

982
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 1: gone out, okay, in the in the room I'm recording

983
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 1: this in, and I don't know where the switch is.

984
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna keep now. I'm not going to stay

985
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: in at dark TI. I do agree with you. I

986
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: think Notre Dame roles in this game. Wakes run defense

987
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:11,240
Speaker 1: is not lights are on, Lights are on? Okay, Wakes

988
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,879
Speaker 1: run defense is not good enough. I'm not going to

989
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 1: call what did you call the covered wagon? Whatever you

990
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: call it, the Woolford wagon. No, No, the Josh Adams situation,

991
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: thirty three trucking. Oh, thirty three trucking.

992
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 2: You will use thirty three trucking with respect on my show,

993
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 2: at least in my presence, you will use it.

994
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: If I were a team looking to beat Notre Dame,

995
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: I would get them to as many third and eight's

996
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 1: as possible and force Brandon Wimbush to throw as many

997
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: passes as possible to keep drives going and make him

998
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: beat you easier said than done. With Notre Dame's offensive line,

999
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: they tend to get to third and two a little

1000
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: bit more often, but that's what I would do. I

1001
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: don't think Wake is good enough to do, so I

1002
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 1: have Notre Dame winning this game thirty eight to twenty.

1003
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 2: Thirty eight to twenty Okay, let's go to seven fifteen

1004
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 2: on ESPN. We've got TCU at home, seven point favorite

1005
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 2: against thee has tey has See. I was just there,

1006
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 2: said it a couple weeks ago. I'm gonna say it again.

1007
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get crazy. This is the game that Texas gets.

1008
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 1: Your loco, Tom. This is the game that they get.

1009
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 2: Sam Ellinger coming back from a concussion. Tom Herman fire starting.

1010
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 2: He called out the students. He said they're apathetic. He

1011
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 2: needs something, Daniel that he can hang on the wall.

1012
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 2: I think they get TCU. I'm going Texas outright here,

1013
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 2: twenty eight to twenty seven.

1014
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 1: Give me the Horns. Just all out on TCU at home. Huh.

1015
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:45,280
Speaker 1: I'm out, baby, I'm out. I like TCU. I think

1016
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: TCU's at home. I don't know who's going to start

1017
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: at quarterback and play at quarterback for Texas. I have

1018
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: a weird, sneaking suspicion it's gonna be both quarterbacks, and

1019
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: I don't like that, Ty, I don't like it. It's

1020
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: gonna be Sam Ellinger. He's back. He's back. But Shane

1021
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:02,240
Speaker 1: Michelle played nicely last week. Yeah, I think they're gonna

1022
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 1: play too, and I hate the prospect of that, so

1023
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to see you. I think they win by ten.

1024
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 1: I think it's relatively low scoring. I'm gonna say twenty

1025
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 1: eight to eighteen TCU.

1026
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 2: You can hit your wagon to Kenny Hill, Ken Hills, No, Kenny,

1027
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 2: Kenny is back from the dead. Okay, give me text

1028
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 2: a twenty eight, twenty seven, and finally ten pm on

1029
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 2: Fox Sports One, Washington at home twenty five points the

1030
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 2: favorite against your Oregon Duckstan. That is a lot of

1031
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 2: points to give against a team Mike Gorgon that can score,

1032
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 2: especially with maybe Justin Herbert coming back. What is the

1033
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 2: status of him and his injury?

1034
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,919
Speaker 1: First of all, I think it's down pretty significantly the spread. Okay,

1035
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:53,919
Speaker 1: it's about seventeen and a half now, so I would

1036
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 1: indicate potentially that there are rumblings. I know, like people

1037
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:03,399
Speaker 1: have said he's taking first team snaps in practice, and

1038
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: I see those reports too. I don't know how meaningful

1039
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 1: those are, because I don't think they're going to play

1040
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: Herbert if he's not fully healed. So maybe he is,

1041
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: and if so, that would make much more sense. I

1042
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 1: don't think Washington scoring seventy on Oregon again this year,

1043
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: there's no Brady Hokee factor, but yes, the quarterback situation

1044
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: is still very much up in the air. And the

1045
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 1: best thing Washington does is play defense. Though they are

1046
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 1: pretty beat up at corner, they're so good upfront, I'm

1047
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,879
Speaker 1: pretty worried. The best thing Oregon can do is get

1048
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:36,879
Speaker 1: creative in the run game, like they did at times

1049
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: last week against Utah. Force turnovers, maybe pop something in

1050
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 1: special teams. But when you talk, when you start talking

1051
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: like that, that's a bad sign. Yeah, if you full

1052
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: on can't pass. If Braxton Burgmeister is starting this game,

1053
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: it's extremely difficult to beat a very good team in

1054
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 1: Washington on the road. So I think Washington wins this

1055
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 1: game comfortably. They don't score if it's Braxtonburg or Braxenburgmeister,

1056
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 1: or if it's justin Herbert. I think Washington wins this

1057
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: game by right around twenty points. So I'm gonna say Washington. Uh,

1058
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: let's say thirty seven to seventeen. So maybe Oregon maybe

1059
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 1: a backdoor cover or something like that.

1060
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 2: I've got I've got Washington winning by twenty one. Okay,

1061
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 2: So if the line is what seventeen now, yeah, I

1062
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 2: would take I would take Washington to cover.

1063
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, as do I.

1064
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 2: All right, that's all we have in the way of

1065
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 2: big headliner.

1066
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: Games featuring ranked teams.

1067
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 2: There are a bunch of other really good games to

1068
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 2: speak of this weekend. We simply don't have time to

1069
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 2: get through all of them. We get messages each and

1070
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,439
Speaker 2: every week, why didn't you talk about my team? We're

1071
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 2: trying to do the best we can with about forty

1072
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 2: five minutes to an hour, and we have failed miserably

1073
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 2: at that time limit. We're usually going about seventy five

1074
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 2: minutes on all of these weekly preview shows, some of

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Speaker 2: the recap shows, just because there are so many big

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00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 2: games to talk about. One of our favorite news segments,

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00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 2: thoughre's a gentleman who has quickly become our favorite announcer

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00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 2: here on the solid verbal, a gentleman by the name

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00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 2: of Adam. Amen, you've gone shoe shopping with him?

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00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: Yes, this is true. Facts only where is Adam this week?

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00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: So Adam will be calling? Well, it's a ranked team,

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00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: Memphis traveling to Tulsa, which Tulsa's taken a step back,

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00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: but Memphis has been pretty fun and Mike Norvell has

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00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,479
Speaker 1: made a name for himself this year. So that game

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00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: is in Tulsa, Tye, and ye we're in week ten. Yeah,

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00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: so listen, ty, this segment in this season is going

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00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: to be over before you know it. So I would say,

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00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: like Tulsa native band Hanson would say, yeah in an imbop,

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00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: Adam is going to be gone, ty, So I think

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Speaker 1: we should listen to what Adam has to say about

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Speaker 1: this game and where he's going to eat.

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Speaker 3: Hey, guys, this is Adam Aman from ESPN Verballer play

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00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 3: by play announcer and based on most scientific evidence, a man.

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Speaker 3: This week, we ventured to the second largest city in Oklahoma, Tulsa,

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00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 3: situated on the Arkansas River at the foothills of the

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Speaker 3: Ozark Mountains. Legend hasn't natives a wait for smoke signals

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00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 3: to determine who will be the next head coach of

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Speaker 3: the Razorbacks. Speaking of potential Arkansas coaches, Mike Norvel has

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Speaker 3: the number twenty three Memphis Tigers playing great football At

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00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 3: seven and one and Friday Night, Riley Ferguson and Anthony

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00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 3: Miller will try to light up a Tulsa defense that

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00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 3: has struggled mightily at times this year, but they've also

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Speaker 3: beaten a pretty good Houston team. You know, for most

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Speaker 3: of the twentieth century, Tulsa was nicknamed the oil capital

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Speaker 3: of the world, a major hub for the American oil

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00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 3: industry during a time when we can eat as much

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Speaker 3: meat and bread and coal and steel as we wanted to.

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Speaker 3: But for now, we'll just enjoy a trip to the

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Speaker 3: Brady District in Tulsa, where we've got one of the

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Speaker 3: best wood fire spots to eat around in Amelia's. And

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Speaker 3: if you're looking for a steakhouse that is essentially inside

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Speaker 3: of a speakeasy bowl in the alley will be the

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Speaker 3: spot to hit up.

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Speaker 1: This has been your Adam Iman Voice Meal of the week.

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Speaker 1: Stay solid.

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Speaker 2: Was that an orchestra version of imbop in the background?

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00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: That's true, Ty, a very Umboppi show. It is a

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Speaker 1: string quartet doing the Adam Mean Voice Meal of the

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Speaker 1: Week continues to pick up steam. Thank you to mister Amen. Yes,

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Speaker 1: real quick, Ty, I am going to try to go

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Speaker 1: as fast as I possibly humanly can, which is right

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Speaker 1: around like a six two forty. Okay. UCLA's playing Utah

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Speaker 1: late Friday night. If you're in if there's bad weather,

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Speaker 1: watch that game. It could get weird. Wisconsin's going to

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Speaker 1: Indiana tie every year Indiana does something to somebody, right right, Yeah, yeah, Florida, Missouri,

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Speaker 1: don't watch it, just don't. Yep, Kansas State, Texas Tech opposite,

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Speaker 1: it's a track. Tie makes me think weird things about

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Speaker 1: Paul Abdul Syracuse, Florida State, Go go Orange Go Dino

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Speaker 1: Babers get another huge program defining win, even if it's

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Speaker 1: the twenty seventeen Florida State, Georgia Tech Virginia. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: watch any of this? Nope, and it ends weirdly? Nope,

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Speaker 1: I bet it does. Nope. Marilyn Rutgers, you probably shouldn't.

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Speaker 1: You probably now don't even bother with that one. Don't

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Speaker 1: air you know what, Army Air Force. Army's pretty good again,

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Speaker 1: tie bad, believe in the Munkins. That's that was weirdly

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Speaker 1: but okay, yeah, no, it's it's facts only once again

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Speaker 1: with that U T S A F I U. No, No,

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna watch that. Minnesota, Michigan, Brandon Peters, the Beetles.

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Speaker 2: I'm interested in Minnesota Michigan a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, fair enough, so, yeah, those those are the

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Speaker 1: games I just if I can real quick, because I

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Speaker 1: know we're running along. Tie. Yeah, one favor, just one

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Speaker 1: final favor? Sure will you drop that overflowing, blasting, glistening

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Speaker 1: lambent lamb um fife. So that looked? It's it's Is

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Speaker 1: that a word lambin? It's flickering with a soft radiance? Wow? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So yeah we have we have three Patley games.

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Speaker 3: Tie.

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Speaker 1: And let me ask you this. Do you think the

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Speaker 1: running backs of Dom brag Alone and Michelbrisker of Lehigh

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Speaker 1: have enough to go to Bucknell and take down Van

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Speaker 1: Nelli's with their own talented running back Chad fresh knock?

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Speaker 1: Fresh knock?

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01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 2: Is that a real Is that a real person? Sounds

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01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 2: like a computer generated name? Now I go Lehigh, I

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01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 2: go Mountain Hawks, I go Engineers, I go the alma

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Speaker 2: mater of my wonderful wife.

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Speaker 1: Gimme all offense Lehigh. I'm gonna go le High as well. Here,

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01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 1: gotta cut the Nellies down to size. Holy Cross at

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01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: three and six? Tie? Do you think this is the

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Speaker 1: week Peter pool Hoowels cuts down on picks? No, let's

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Speaker 1: go Fordham, give me Fordham. We're going Fordham. Got a

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Speaker 1: no tie? Do you appreciate that Teddy Kapsis is a

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Speaker 1: monster on defense.

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Speaker 2: I do Ross Saders, of course, yes I do. I've

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Speaker 2: still going Fordham though, New York's one true team.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yep, yep. Fordham with qb Luke Medlock, he is

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Speaker 1: improving Lafayette two and six. Brandon Bryant tie. You know

1168
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Speaker 1: this is a tackling machine. Georgetown. Are they going to

1169
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 1: be able to survive the Brandon Bryant experience? Michael Darius

1170
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: can't do it alone for the Hoyas at multi sport field.

1171
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Speaker 2: What do you think multi sport field all the way?

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Speaker 2: Give me the Hoyas.

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01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go to the Hoyas as well. Horns

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Speaker 1: nest tie.

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Speaker 2: We know this, we celebrate this, We worship this absolutely.

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01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 2: By the way, I don't know if you caught this tidbit.

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01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 2: It was tweeted to us. It's been floating around the

1178
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 2: web now for a few days. You should check out

1179
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 2: our subreddit as reddit dot com slash or slash solid

1180
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Speaker 2: verbal over one thousand subscribers doing well. At some point

1181
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 2: we need to do an AMA on there. Maybe we

1182
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 2: could figure that out. But it was I think initially

1183
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 2: posted by the college football subreddit that there is a

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Speaker 2: singular pathway that could potentially lead to a seven way

1185
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 2: tie in the Patriot League every team. It is one

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01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 2: hundred percent true, a singular pathway that could produce a

1187
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 2: seven way tie. All teams in the conference could finish

1188
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 2: with a three to three conference record.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I was going to say there's all sorts of

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01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 1: strange records right now, but I guess they play a

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01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: bunch of non conference games because there's not that many

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01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: teams in the conference. Ty, We've been saying this for years.

1193
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 1: The pat League is due for some interpat League chaos. Yeah,

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01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 1: of course it might be that year. Might be three

1195
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 1: and three.

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01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 2: In conference play is a real possibility for all seven

1197
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Speaker 2: teams in the Patriot League.

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Speaker 1: I hope so, I'll be tremendous. I'm hoping for it, Ty.

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Speaker 1: It's basically a more important version of I believe it

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01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 1: was two thousand and eight when you had the three

1201
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 1: way tie atop the Big twelve. Yeah, the Graham Harrel,

1202
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: Colt McCoy, Sam Bradford, Yeah, something like that. Sure, why not? Yeah,

1203
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 1: Lane Jones one of those guys. Yeah, I'm hoping for it.

1204
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 2: Cool, well, fun show. You've got Oklahoma State as your lock.

1205
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 1: I have Oklahoma State. I'm riding with the Cowboys, Go Pokes.

1206
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 2: I'm going to go Clemson minus the points on the

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01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 2: road at NC State, perhaps tempting fate a little bit,

1208
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 2: but liking that Clemson defense more than I like anything

1209
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 2: else on the field in that game. Thank you to everyone,

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Speaker 2: as always for your resounding support continued support of the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget to give us a phone call at four

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Speaker 2: A zero eight verbal one, or you can shoot us

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Speaker 2: a text message. As I've said for the last few

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Speaker 2: weeks running now, I have been responding here we are

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Speaker 2: to some folks who have been texting in and if

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Speaker 2: you're a Michigan State fan, I will offer you an

1217
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Speaker 2: apology if you do cover the point spread against Penn State.

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Speaker 2: I promise to do that, but again, four O waight

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Speaker 2: verbal one if you'd like to get in on the

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Speaker 2: action as far as that goes. We're also on Facebook

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Speaker 2: and Twitter and Instagram. There's a subreddit which I mentioned

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Speaker 2: solid Verbal. We've also got more shirts coming out. Stay

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Speaker 2: newsletter of intent. If you'd like more information on that.

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Speaker 2: Give us a holler at solid Verbal at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to plan our next live gig on the

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Speaker 2: weekend of the National Championship.

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Speaker 1: That's all I got, Tai. If you're listening to this

1233
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 1: while driving, keep your eyes on the road. Ten and two.

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01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 1: Keep your hands on the wheel, look at your mirrors.

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01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 1: If you're listening to this on a plane, we're probably

1236
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 1: inside your head right now. What's up? We're in you're

1237
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 1: left and right ears. If you're doing chores around the house,

1238
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 1: thank you. Thank you for pulling your own weight. If

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01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: you're working out right now, good for you. Treat yourself.

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Speaker 1: That's all I got, Tie, Do.

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Speaker 2: We want to do a secret verbal because we haven't

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01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 2: done one in a long time.

1243
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 1: We haven't done a secret verbal in a long time.

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01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 2: I really like the idea of sending an image to somebody,

1245
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 2: or a kind of image to somebody. Didn't we do

1246
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 2: that where we had people sending pictures of tacos or

1247
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 2: Mexican food or something like that. A couple weeks back.

1248
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 2: We've gone far too long without doing this.

1249
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Speaker 1: This is what's it called. It's all syrup, super squishy Saturday.

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01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 1: That's correct. So why don't we send pictures of Milhouse

1251
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 1: van Houghten to somebody? That sounds like a beautiful idea.

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01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 1: I think it's appropriate. It's grated. Millhouse is probably a

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Speaker 1: top seven character on The Simpsons, if not higher. Easily,

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Speaker 1: who are you feeling, ti, um So here's a good one, Dan, okay,

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Speaker 1: hit me. It's a good PAC twelve week, is it not?

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Speaker 1: It's a wonderful PAC twelve week, which we have not

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Speaker 1: had a lot of.

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Speaker 2: Mike underscore Yam easy noted PAC twelve network host, Mike Yam, Mikeyam,

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01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 2: good host, good sense of humor, Mike underscore Yam. We

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Speaker 2: are sending him what pictures of Millhouse?

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01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 1: Pictures of Milhouse go on Google Images. Do not reference

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Speaker 1: the solid verbal, Do not rev hashtag it, Do not

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01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 1: mention anything about why you are tweeting at him. Send

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01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 1: him merely via Twitter a picture of Millhouse. Just tweet

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01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 1: him any picture of Milhouse. There are thousands, if not

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01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of screen grabs out there. You know

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Speaker 1: Milhouse from the Simpsons, Millhouse van Houten. He's been through

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Speaker 1: a lot. Send a picture of Milhouse to Mike, just

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01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: to show him that you appreciate all that he does.

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Speaker 2: On that note, for that guy over there, Dan Rubinstein

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Speaker 2: in New York City, For myself, Tie Hildebrand over here

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01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 2: in eastern Pennsylvania. Thanks again for listening to the show.

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Speaker 2: Look us up this weekend. Four wad verbal one. Give

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Speaker 2: us a call. Keep those reverbs flowing, Send us tweets,

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Speaker 2: send us emails, subscribe to the newsletter. You know the drill.

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Speaker 2: We'll catch you all on Sunday and recap weekend. In

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Speaker 2: the meantime, enjoy your week, enjoy your weekend, and stay

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Speaker 2: solid peace