1 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: All Star slugger from the A's Brent Rooker hanging out 2 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: with us. 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: Rook, good to see you, dude. How's the off season going, 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 2: man off sea? 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 3: It has been good. 6 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 4: Been busy. He's been traveling a pretty good bit kind 7 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 4: of all over the place, a couple of teammate weddings, uh, 8 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 4: Sacramento trip, things like that. So it's been busy, but 9 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 4: it's been a good one. 10 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 2: Wait before you go, look at his backdrop in ours. 11 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: That's very so almost identical. 12 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 5: But yeah, well more minds bar over here before we 13 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 5: get before we get into a whole bunch of stuff 14 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 5: your off season. Did you hear what Eric Kratz said 15 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 5: about people from that go to school in Mississippi yesterday? 16 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 5: He said that there's never been any hitters that are 17 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 5: any good from Mississippi. 18 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 6: That's what he said. 19 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 3: And I said, pal. 20 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 5: Merrow Clark Rookery, that. 21 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 4: Might be true in one school in Mississippi, but definitely 22 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 4: not our school in Mississippi. 23 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: Hold, let Kratz defend himself. Then Rook can decide, you know, 24 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: because AJ likes to all. 25 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 4: Right, what was this? 26 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: Historically? 27 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 7: Historically high school hitters from Mississippi do not pan out 28 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 7: in the big leagues. Scouts have told me that for years, 29 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 7: and it was something that I never never really thought of. 30 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 7: And then AJ, being the media mobile that he is, 31 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,839 Speaker 7: skewed my words and started bringing up everybody from old 32 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 7: Mississippi State and Mississippi University and all of those schools. 33 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 4: So you're saying, like kids from Mississippi who get drafted 34 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 4: out of high school, not they go to college. Okay, 35 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 4: what's a more specific group of people that can't speak 36 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 4: as higher as as informed on as the college thing. 37 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 5: But no, no, no, If I defended you, Rook, you were 38 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 5: one of the first names I brought up about being 39 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 5: from guys from Mississippi that could rank. You were like 40 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 5: school in Mississippi, so it counts. 41 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 4: Doesn't get went to school Missippi. It's fair, doesn't count. 42 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: Also, krat said this was coming from a scout. It 43 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: wasn't like crats just sat there. 44 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 6: I didn't hear that. 45 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 4: I know. 46 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 7: AJ's misremembered. And before we get into anything, I love 47 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 7: that you have the headphones on rope for everybody listening. 48 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 7: You don't even need to see what Brent Rooker looks like. 49 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 7: He just looks like every high school kid right now 50 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 7: when you walk into a high school headphones on. 51 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 4: During school hours. 52 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 7: That's between classes they walked, they put their headphones on. 53 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 7: Then during school they put their headphones around their neck. 54 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 3: It's the new thing. So your hip your hip rope, 55 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: so they. 56 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: Don't talk to each other. 57 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 4: I didn't know what you're saying. Am I lagging? 58 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 2: Like? 59 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 4: Am I behind lagging? 60 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 6: I don't know, miss that, missip, the internet gotcha? 61 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 4: I don't know. 62 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: Let's see. That's why I'm like, I don't know what 63 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: to do about that. 64 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 5: You know, we had Vinnie on and Vinnie's Internet was fine, 65 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 5: So maybe it's a coorehouse. 66 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 3: Is too big. 67 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 4: Maybe it could be. It could definitely be my house. 68 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 7: It could be your silver slugger is getting in the way. 69 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 7: It's like the frequency with the silver Slugger and all 70 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 7: your awards and everything BENNI does. 71 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 4: BENNI doesn't have one of those to mess up his connection, so. 72 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 3: He doesn't as. 73 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 5: Fine, and we won't let it, but we aren't allowed 74 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 5: to show it because Scott. It embarrasses Scott that I 75 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 5: have when he doesn't, so he made me take it 76 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 5: off set. 77 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:34,399 Speaker 2: I actually want it on set. 78 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: Todd Fraser puts his home run Derby Trophy next to 79 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: me every day when I'm with him. 80 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: We should put it right here. 81 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: How do you trick the A's into thinking it's the 82 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: summertime so that they're good the whole season? 83 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 4: Uh? That Yeah, back to the answer, I think that's 84 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,119 Speaker 4: had a lot to do with an experience and having 85 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 4: so many young guys. So I mean, theoretically we should 86 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 4: be more experienced. We have more guys with some full 87 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 4: seasons than to their belts, and so we shouldn't really 88 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 4: necessarily have that same learning curve that we've had the 89 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 4: past few years. And you know, figing match the second 90 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 4: half we've had in the last two years and doing 91 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 4: that in the first half and the second half this year, 92 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 4: then we're gonna be in a good spot. 93 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: Okay, that was better, little better. 94 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 4: A little better. We'll take a little better. 95 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 96 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 5: And then one be question was, since you were the 97 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 5: first guy of the A's to sign their extension, do 98 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 5: you feel like the veteran because now they're starting to 99 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 5: sign a bunch of guys to extensions, So were you 100 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 5: were you. 101 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 6: Like looking at any children. I'm gonna show you the. 102 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 4: Way I feel like I feel like the veteran just 103 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 4: because I'm the oldest guy, almost the oldest guy in 104 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 4: the locker room. We do. We got we got Jeff 105 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 4: now soon I'm not. I'm not the oldest hitter anymore, 106 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 4: which is a little a little relieving for me. But yeah, 107 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 4: I mean compared to the rest of our lineup, I 108 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 4: am a old, salty seasoned vet, which is a little unique, 109 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 4: you know, for our team, because I mean, I know 110 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 4: I'm old, but like, I'm not that crazy old yet. 111 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 4: I'm getting there, but not yet. 112 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: Did you hear they almost got Nolan Ironado? 113 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 4: I did hear that they didn't have any I know, 114 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 4: that would have been that would have been that would 115 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 4: have been something to get No. One in Sacramento, So 116 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 4: obviously it would have been exciting. But we like our 117 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 4: internal options. So I think we're I think we're in 118 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 4: a good spot rosterwise. 119 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 2: Okay, uh, what do you think about the off season 120 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: deals so far? 121 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: Some of these big stars taking some of the shorter 122 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: turn deals, and you know, some people claiming the players 123 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: are are not happy about it, Like what's been going 124 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: on Dodgers adding guys whatever. I mean, I know you 125 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: don't speak for everyone, but you are part of a union. 126 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 4: So what do you think, Yeah, I think the I 127 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 4: think the shift to the shorter term high AV deals 128 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 4: is interesting. I think it's obviously great for players, great 129 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 4: for the guys getting them. It's it's maximizing value, which 130 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 4: I think is awesome and exactly what we wanted to 131 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 4: do as players. It's a little bit different than I 132 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 4: think the kind of what fre agencies looked like in 133 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 4: the past. When you know, guys get the free agency 134 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 4: they they they've historically kind of wanted the cash in 135 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 4: on the eight, ten, twelve year deals, but shifting it 136 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 4: to the shorter term, higher AAV deals is interesting to me. 137 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 4: And and if you know as a as as a player, 138 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 4: if that's what those individual guys feel like is best 139 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 4: for them and making their best decision and kind of 140 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 4: betting on themselves to be able to get back in 141 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 4: the market, I think it's awesome. 142 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 5: Agreed, especially the young guys, right, the young the Bobashefs, 143 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 5: the guys that are fairly young, they get their opt 144 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 5: outs and all that. It gives the I always say 145 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 5: it gives the player a little bit of power, right, like, 146 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 5: oh I have I have, but I can. 147 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 4: Get it's It's yeah, I like the the betting on 148 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 4: yourself again. I mean, Kyle is what twenty seven, he 149 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 4: gets to get back in the market theoretically at thirty 150 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 4: one and kind of redo it all over again, which 151 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 4: I think is an awesome way to kind of maximize 152 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 4: earning power and maximize your leverage to to get you know, 153 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 4: a couple of different bites at the apple there. So 154 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 4: I think it's I think it's great, all. 155 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 5: Right, Rok, So explain that I fight this with fans, 156 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 5: and I fight this with all the time. 157 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 6: Salary cap, salary caps. It's all you hear, salary caps, 158 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 6: salary caps, salary cap, and. 159 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 5: I always fight for the players. Listen, if salary caps 160 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 5: are so great, why does the NBA, the NHL, the 161 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 5: NFL have. 162 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 6: Work stoppages too? 163 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 3: Right? 164 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 5: If salary cap is wonderful, the cure all, why do 165 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 5: the Kansas City Chiefs go to like every Super Bowl? 166 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 5: They're like, oh, at a whole parody? Right, the Patriots 167 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 5: won all those Super Bowls, the Chiefs from the Super 168 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 5: Bowl every year? So can you give us the players thoughts? 169 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 6: I don't. 170 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 5: You don't have to give the thought on this cap, 171 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 5: but just when you talk to other players, some thoughts 172 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 5: that they're talking about. 173 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think you just hit on some 174 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 4: major points, right. It's not like a salary cap inherently 175 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 4: offers this parody, inherently levels the playing field. Because you 176 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 4: look at the NFL and the NBA and you name, 177 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 4: I mean, the Patriots did their thing when on their run, 178 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 4: the Chiefs did the same thing. You look at the NBA, 179 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 4: the Warriors dominated for so many years, and those are 180 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 4: in two leagues with caps, right, So it's not like 181 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 4: you just install a cap and oh, all of a sudden, 182 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 4: now the playing fields level. Now there's going to be 183 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 4: a different World Series winner every year, is going to 184 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 4: be different teams than the playoffs every year. That's that's 185 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 4: not how it works. It's just it's a way for 186 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 4: owners to increase their leverage. And it doesn't exactly what 187 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 4: it says it's going to do. It decreases salaries, It 188 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 4: doesn't offer any answers to the questions and the issues 189 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 4: that exist in the league. And I think it's kind 190 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 4: of seen as this, like you said, this fix all 191 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 4: thing that, Oh, you just install a salar gap and 192 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 4: all the problems are done, they're solved, And that's just 193 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 4: that couldn't be further from the truth on a number 194 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 4: of different levels. 195 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 7: What do you think the league would look like if 196 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 7: every owner wanted to win as badly as every other owner, 197 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 7: Like if as badly as the players, I'm sorry, not 198 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 7: as every other owner as badly as the players. What 199 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 7: do you think the league would look like? Would it 200 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 7: raise the level of competition in the level of viewership? 201 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. I think. You know, you look 202 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 4: at the sport and the league as a whole right now, 203 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 4: and viewership is up, attendance is up, revenue is up, 204 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 4: Jersey sales are up. All these different things are up, 205 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 4: and there's still room to improve, which is exciting. And 206 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 4: we know that that way to improve is the teams 207 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 4: that you know, the historically and in the past few 208 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 4: several years that haven't been willing to spend, that those 209 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 4: teams become willing to spend and put their best foot 210 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 4: forward to put a competitive team on the field. And 211 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 4: when that starts to happen, when you see payrolls at 212 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 4: the bottom start to start to climb and start to 213 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 4: get higher and higher and kind of closer to that 214 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,599 Speaker 4: you know that middle ground, you're going to see the 215 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 4: revenues continue to climb, and the attendance and the viewership 216 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 4: and TV contracts and things like that are just going 217 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 4: to follow suits. So we're in a great spot right 218 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 4: now in terms of in terms of visibility, in terms 219 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 4: of revenue and all that type stuff. But the exciting 220 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 4: thing for us is we know with with a few 221 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 4: changes that that should come from those teams at the 222 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 4: bottom half or in the bottom of the payroll. If 223 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 4: those teams become willing to spend a little bit more 224 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 4: and try a little harder to put consistently competitive teams 225 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 4: and good products out there, that everything is just going 226 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 4: to continue to climb and we leve where we're at. 227 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 7: Fans have been clamoring for a signing deadline or a 228 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 7: trading deadline in the off season. 229 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 3: What do you feel that my. 230 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 5: Fans have been clamoring for one? Eric Krautz wants to 231 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 5: trade deadline in the off season in. 232 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 7: January manipulating, Okay, don't represent the fans. Ownership has been 233 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 7: leaking to different outlets that there should be a signing deadline. 234 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 4: Yep. 235 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 7: How does that? How is that seen from players from 236 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 7: a player's side, and how is that you know, combat 237 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 7: it against? 238 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,599 Speaker 3: And what is what what what do you have to 239 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 3: say about that? 240 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 4: Is all I gotta I think. I think the thing 241 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 4: that a lot of these issues have in common is 242 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 4: fans look at them and they only see how they're 243 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 4: going to affect the top earners in the league. And 244 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 4: the thought may be, okay, so we put in a 245 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 4: sign deadline, like is Kyle Tucker still gonna get his 246 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 4: fifty sixty million dollars? Like absolutely he is, because he 247 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 4: is the top one person in the league. He is 248 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 4: an All Star every year. He's that guy. How that 249 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 4: signing deadline is gonna affect guys? Is that middle class 250 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 4: of free agent that exists, the guys that get one 251 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 4: year between you know, five, six, seven, eight million dollars. 252 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 4: It's gonna be the night before the signing deadline and 253 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 4: an owner is gonna call him, or a GM's gonna 254 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 4: call him, or Whatever's all right, I know you're worth seven, 255 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 4: but here's one for three and it's either sign it 256 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 4: or you don't have a job, or you have to 257 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 4: take this penalty and not be eligible for the postseason, 258 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 4: or whatever it is. And it just puts leverage in 259 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 4: the hands of the people who don't need any more leverage, right, 260 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 4: you work your whole life to get the free agency. 261 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 4: You work, you grind to the minor leagues, you put 262 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 4: your six years the service time in the big leagues, 263 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 4: you get to free agency, you kind of finally get 264 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 4: that that time to maximize your earning potential to pick 265 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 4: where you play. And now you're gonna put restrictions on that. 266 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 4: And you're gonna say, Okay, I know this is you're now. Look, 267 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 4: you've you've you've achieved this accomplishment getting agency, which is very, 268 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 4: very difficult to do. Now you're looking for the opportunity 269 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 4: to take care of your family, to set your family up. 270 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 4: But we're gonna put more restrictions on that to make 271 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 4: sure that maybe you don't get every dollar you deserve, 272 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 4: despite how despite having gotten to this point, which is 273 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 4: so difficult. And I think when you put more leverage 274 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 4: in the hands of people who don't need the leverage 275 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 4: and who don't deserve that leverage, it becomes a variouslippery slope. 276 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, I hate this idea, and who ever said this? 277 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 5: And then trade deadline in the off season, signing deadline 278 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 5: like no, because again, what happens if you don't sign 279 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 5: like let's say. 280 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 6: You're Brent Rook or you're a free agent. 281 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 5: January first is the free agent deadline to sign, and 282 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 5: nobody gives you an offer you want. They say, sign 283 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 5: this one year, one million dollars. Think how many players 284 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 5: you get? Why would I play? 285 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 2: Oh? 286 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 3: Then I have to set out to July and. 287 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 6: Then maybe get another offer like this. It's it's ridiculous 288 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 6: to me. 289 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I completely agree. And it's like, Okay, so you 290 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 4: complain that whatever in November December is boring because no 291 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 4: one's signing. Set the deadline January first, whatever you want, 292 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 4: and everyone's done by January first, and then there's January 293 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 4: it's boring. So it's like, no matter what you do, 294 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 4: there's going to be a slow time. That's just how 295 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 4: it works. And I think I just think it's it 296 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 4: just I think the big thing is it takes you 297 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 4: guys know it, Like it's so difficult to get the 298 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 4: free agency in our league that once you do that, 299 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 4: like that is your time to dictate what's happening, and 300 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 4: you shouldn't have anything or any kind of restrictions placed 301 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 4: on that to take that right away from you as 302 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 4: a player. 303 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 2: It takes a decade on average. 304 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 6: Yeah, it takes forever. 305 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, unless you're one of those guys that gets 306 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 5: up there like nineteen, like Juan Soto or something like that. Yeah, 307 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 5: it takes you about ten years on average to get 308 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 5: to where you have. 309 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 6: Any power at all. 310 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 5: And that's why again I love the short term deals 311 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 5: where players actually have some power. 312 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 3: Like I had a. 313 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 6: Really good yet I drop down and get more money. 314 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 5: Whereas you know, most teams, as you know, want club 315 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 5: options where they control it and say, oh, well, you know, 316 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 5: they might throw You know, dude, we have a club 317 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 5: aufer for twenty five million, but you get one million 318 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 5: if we don't pick it up. 319 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 6: It drives me. 320 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 5: Anyways, I hate talking about this because we're gonna have 321 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 5: a year of this rook and you're gonna have to 322 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 5: answer questions. And you've been awesome about answering this question. 323 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 5: So one more on the stupid CBA that I have 324 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 5: to know. Would you like it? I always say this 325 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 5: if owners actually showed the real books, okay, because I 326 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 5: tell people all the time and they, again, people don't 327 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 5: outside of baseball don't understand this. Teams say, oh, well 328 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 5: we have a payroll of one hundred million. These are 329 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 5: all arbitrary numbers, fake numbers. Okay, we only made fifty 330 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 5: million last year off our TV deal in ticket sales, 331 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 5: so we lost fifty million. What about your concessions? What 332 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 5: about your merch what about your parking? 333 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 6: What about this? 334 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 5: That's all in a different company, but it all goes 335 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 5: to the same pot for the owners. But they say, oh, 336 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 5: we lost fifty million, and oh yeah, by the way, 337 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 5: there was about I don't know seven hundred million in 338 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 5: revenue sharing luxury taxes that was sent down to other teams. 339 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 5: Where does that money go? I'd also love to see 340 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 5: the books on that, but we don't have time for 341 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 5: all this. 342 00:14:58,480 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 3: So would you be okay? 343 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 5: As a player, every owner said, here's every dollar that 344 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 5: I made under every company that I owned. 345 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 6: Would that make you feel better? 346 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 4: Because it made me feel better for sure. I mean 347 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 4: some transparency. He's always appreciated in negotiations, right. So it's 348 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 4: it's just difficult when you know you have a lot 349 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 4: of teams and and and people like you, like you 350 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 4: kind of said, like, you know, we were losing money, 351 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 4: We're not or generating enough revenue to sustain this payroll 352 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 4: or whatever it is. But then they refuse to kind 353 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 4: of open that up and and let us see that 354 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 4: for ourselves. I think it's it comes across as a 355 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 4: little disingenuous, It comes across a little dishonest, and it 356 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 4: would be a way to probably take some steps toward 357 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 4: each other in a negotiation process if we could get 358 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 4: some some more transparency when it comes to that subject. 359 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 4: So I think you're exactly right. 360 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 7: A lot was made about Rob Manford going into the 361 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 7: Phillies and Bryce Harper kind of standing up to him. 362 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 7: Did he come and talk to you guys in Sacramento 363 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 7: or did he visit you guys on. 364 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 4: The road He gave me Sacramento. Yeah, Rob came to 365 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 4: see us when we were at home towards towards the end. 366 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 3: And how did that go? 367 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 7: How did that conversation go? From your viewpoint, but also 368 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 7: from a lot of the younger players on the roster 369 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 7: that don't necessarily have as much dirt in or cleats 370 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 7: as say the Phillies team, where it was a little 371 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 7: bit more of an uprising. 372 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would assume ours was a little quieter, obviously, 373 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 4: with so many young guys in our clubhouse who are 374 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 4: still kind of learning about these things and figuring how 375 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 4: the system works and how the business works. And you know, 376 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 4: they came away with questions that they communicated to to 377 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 4: Sevy and to Jeffrey Springs and to myself and to 378 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 4: guys who have been around for a little bit longer. 379 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 4: But you know, my main takeaway from the meeting was, 380 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 4: I just think it's interesting how the first in the 381 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 4: first ten to fifteen minutes of the meeting is kind 382 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 4: of spent telling us that exactly what I talked about 383 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 4: at the beginning of this interview, Like, hey, guys, attendance 384 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 4: was was way. Viewership's way up, revenue's way merch sales 385 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 4: his way up. All these things are way up. The 386 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 4: business of the league is thriving, it's booming, but hey, 387 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 4: here's why the system isn't working. And it's like, okay, well, 388 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 4: those two things seem to be a little contradictory, Like 389 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 4: you just you just told us how great we're doing 390 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 4: and how much money the league and teams and players 391 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 4: are making. But now you're telling us if the system 392 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 4: is broken and it's not working, and that just kind 393 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 4: of seems to not really mesh in my mind. It 394 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 4: doesn't early gel. It seems like a like I said, 395 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 4: like a contradictory message, and that was kind of my 396 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 4: main takeaway is like, Okay, well, you know, from from 397 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 4: your guys perspective, from the league's perspective, if everything is 398 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 4: going so well, then why is there this complaint that, oh, 399 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 4: we have to change everything, we have to tear the 400 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 4: system down and rebuild it. Like that doesn't seem to 401 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 4: be the case at all, based on these facts and 402 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 4: the numbers that you're giving us. 403 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 6: True. True, I agree. 404 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 5: Speaking of merch sales, I know you've been to the 405 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 5: new site of Las Vegas, right the new stadium that 406 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 5: you guys are going to have in a couple of years. 407 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 5: It looks amazing. Hopefully it comes out like the renderings. 408 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 5: But I know you saw this, and I just have 409 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 5: to ask this. Have you thought of a nickname for 410 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 5: the Las Vegas baseball team when athletics since they can't 411 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 5: get a trademark, have you guys talked about like what 412 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 5: could be that, like the Lost Vegas Strippers or like 413 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 5: the Las Vegas Strips or something, you know, like something 414 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 5: if they can't get this. 415 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 4: I think we're pretty confident that the athletics thing is 416 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 4: going to work out. I think I love that. 417 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 5: I love the strippers, because you guys are gonna be 418 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 5: able to strip, and then you could be like, honey, 419 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 5: I'm going to the strippers to see the strippers, and 420 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 5: your wife would never get mad. I'm gonna go play 421 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 5: with the strippers. 422 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 4: Could be a real, uh, real good out of Joe 423 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 4: free card there for a lot of people on No. 424 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 4: I think, uh, I think, I think we feel pretty 425 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 4: good that the athletics is going to work out. 426 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 7: Somebody does Frankie his name does out of context, so 427 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 7: he takes clips and he just got like thirty seconds 428 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 7: of content. By how many times a j said over 429 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 7: the place. It definitely is one of the things we 430 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 7: talked about. One of the things we talked about earlier 431 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 7: in the show was the Brewers. You know they got 432 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 7: rid of Freddy Peralta, and we're talking about going all 433 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 7: in or missing the playoff. Yes, as a player, would 434 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 7: you like to see the front office go all in 435 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 7: to make that last move? It might cause you because 436 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 7: you're on a longer term contract, maybe a couple losing 437 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 7: seasons later in your contract, go all in and give 438 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 7: it everything you have for that one season, that one 439 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:22,959 Speaker 7: shot at a world series. 440 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think so I think the interesting 441 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 4: thing about what you just said is, you know, winning 442 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 4: cultures breed breed winning, Right, So if you go all 443 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 4: in and for one year and you say, okay, here 444 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 4: we're going for right now, and then you make the playoffs, 445 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 4: you make a playoff run, that is going to breed 446 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 4: more winning down the road because you're create a winning culture. 447 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 4: You're creating a clubhouse and an environment. A franchise it 448 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 4: expects to get back to the playoffs, it expects to 449 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 4: make these runs. And I think that can't be understated 450 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 4: as well as how much just kind of that commitment 451 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 4: and that dedication to winning is going to create future 452 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 4: winning opportunities and winning seasons down the road, just from 453 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 4: like I said, a culture and an expectation perspective. 454 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 5: Brent, how confident are you in the athletics this year 455 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 5: taking that next step? I know you've put out quotes 456 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 5: you guys are gonna be much comfortable in Sacramento, much 457 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 5: more comfortable to travel everything. So how much and we 458 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 5: talked about this a little bit earlier, that you think 459 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 5: guys are ready for the next step. So how confident 460 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 5: are you that the athletics can compete in a division 461 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 5: that's pretty tough. 462 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, a really tough division. But I love where we're at. 463 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 4: I think we have people talk about the offense and 464 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 4: talk about the hitters we have and talk about Nick 465 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 4: Kurtz and talking about Jacob Wilson, Tyler Soda Sherman, Lawrence 466 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 4: Bouler and all these guys, and I think that is 467 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 4: obviously very well justified and people should be talking about that. 468 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 4: But we've got some really really exciting young arms too. 469 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 4: I think Luis Morales showed frontline stuff last year at times, 470 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 4: and I think he's still so young and developing that 471 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 4: he's going to be really good. You know, Perkins same way, 472 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 4: had a great year when he was healthy, through the 473 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 4: ball really well. And you kind of couple those guys 474 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 4: up with some veterans, with Sevy and with Jeffrey, who 475 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 4: can teach those guys how to go out there and 476 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 4: do their thing at the major league level. I think 477 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 4: it's super exciting. And then I think, I think adding 478 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 4: Jeff to our lineup. Getting Jeff McNeil and there is 479 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 4: going to be huge for us, and it makes the 480 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 4: lineup deeper, it makes us more well rounded, versatile. He 481 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 4: can play all over the place, plays great defense, and 482 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 4: I think when you throw him in Jacob Wilson the 483 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 4: same lineup and just being like, all right, look here, 484 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 4: here's two guys that you're like, you're not gonna punch out, like, 485 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 4: they're gonna grind, they're gonna foul pitches off, they're gonna 486 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 4: put the ball in play. And you put that in 487 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 4: the same lineup with guys who can hit homers left 488 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 4: and right. I think it makes us very dangerous. And 489 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 4: I think we're an exciting team, and I think inside 490 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 4: our clubhouse there's a lot of confidence that we can 491 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 4: go out there and and and do some damage this here, 492 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 4: So we're excited about it. 493 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 6: Nice, nice, All right, Before before we let you go, 494 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 6: I have to ask you. 495 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 5: On Saturday night, I have to go up on the 496 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 5: stage and present Drake Baldwin with his National League Rookie 497 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 5: of the Year. 498 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay. 499 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 5: Now somewhere sitting next to me will be Nick Kurt 500 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 5: m Is there a story that. 501 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 3: I need to ask him? 502 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 6: Well? 503 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 5: And when I see him that we can obviously tell 504 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 5: on the air that I need to go up to 505 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 5: him and say, hey, Nick, I heard this happened or 506 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 5: rook said this. 507 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 4: Oh I'm thinking nothing comes to mind. I don't think 508 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 4: he's a pretty laid back guy. I mean he's he's 509 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 4: not like he wasn't like an abrasive rookie who got 510 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 4: who had a tough time. You know. He he kept 511 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 4: throw himself a little bit. He did his work, and 512 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 4: he was he was a he was a good young player. 513 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 4: I'll say that. So nothing comes to mind. If anything 514 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 4: comes to mind, specifically that I can't stay live, also, 515 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 4: I'll shoot you a text about it. But no, I 516 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 4: wish I wish Kurt said more. But he's just kind 517 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 4: of a great, great dude and just and just does 518 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 4: the right stuff too often where it's a little bit annoying, 519 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 4: but you're gonna enjoy being around him. You're gonna enjoy 520 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 4: being around him. I'll say that he's a good song. 521 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 3: I know this. 522 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 6: He won the introduction battle. Do you know who's introducing him? 523 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 5: No, I don't know if I'm allowed to say it, 524 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 5: but she was a tall blonde pitcher from softball Jenny Finch. 525 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 6: Okay, yes, he's definitely he definitely want to. 526 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 3: Introduction Jenny Finch and a J Perzinski. 527 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 2: Yeah that's a great dude. 528 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, have you been have you? 529 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 2: Have you been? 530 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 4: Around him. I think you're going to be shocked at 531 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 4: how big he is. He's gigantic. It's always he's like 532 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 4: surprisingly large. 533 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 6: No, because we've had him on the show. 534 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 5: But unfortunately, I've never done an Oakland game Sacramento game. Yeah, 535 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 5: I actually have. I take them back, I have. I've 536 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 5: never done one at their home ball. I've done one 537 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 5: in Toronto, which is the weirdest thing of life. 538 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 4: Time. 539 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 5: So I've no in the last I don't know the 540 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 5: last time Sacramento was on Fox, but it's probably hasn't been. 541 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 3: He is he Adam? I beg to go there every year. 542 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 3: Can I go to Sacramento? 543 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 4: Please? I don't think I've ever met Adam, but probably not. 544 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 4: But Kirks is like, uh, he's huge, but his head 545 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 4: is tiny, so he kind of like I think people 546 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 4: don't realize how big he is because his head so 547 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 4: small on TV and it doesn't do it justice how big. 548 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 6: So if I walked in to him beetlejuice, you might 549 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 6: get a little langeah. 550 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 4: A little tiny head. You should make fun of that. 551 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 2: You might not know what beetlejuice is. 552 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:17,959 Speaker 1: It just came out of yeah, oh yeah, right right, Well, 553 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: Rook This was great, man, great catching up with you. 554 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: Will catch it actually spring training. Perhaps you'll be out 555 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: in Arizona. 556 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 4: Quick in Arizona. 557 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 2: Yes, thanks Brook, good to see you, dude. 558 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 4: Sounds good, guys, appreciate it. Sorry for all the technical trouble. 559 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 4: I'm glad we figured it out somewhat. 560 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 2: It was great. So appreciate you. Man. Than thank you. 561 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: We just go round and round futures regular season wins 562 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: for the Red Sox. The number, every number for the 563 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: good teams is around the same number. Eighty seven and 564 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: a half for the Red Sox over under. 565 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 5: M I'm staying away from this one. I'd just like 566 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 5: to see him get one more bat. 567 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 2: They're looking to get one. 568 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 3: I love their pitching. 569 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 1: I mean, everybody in the Al East can't win ninety 570 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: games under. 571 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 6: Krauts is going under. 572 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 7: Overrat's going under Today January twenty second, we are weeks 573 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 7: away from spring training starting. They're gonna get another bat. Okay, 574 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 7: then I might change it to over. But last year 575 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 7: they hung around a five hundred team. 576 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 3: They hung around. 577 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 7: They had a few spurts here and there is Roman. 578 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 7: If they don't get another bat, I have a hard 579 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 7: time taking the over just because that's saying Roman Anthony, 580 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 7: who everyone has said is going to be a superstar, 581 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 7: like a generational superstar, and I just can't bet on 582 00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 7: that going into the season. Gark O, it's gonna be awesome. 583 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 7: Ranger Suarez, I love his I love his repertoire in 584 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 7: Fenway in the American League East. He doesn't seem phased 585 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 7: by big games, so he's gonna have big games all 586 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 7: the time. I think they won eighty nine games last 587 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 7: year and without Bregman. I can find two games that 588 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:21,719 Speaker 7: they would have lost without Bregman. 589 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 6: So, by the way, it's right, what is it? 590 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 5: Ron Hair run rent Hand, Oh. 591 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: Not Ranger Suarez. But he said Rangers, okay, So Rangers okay. 592 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 7: The g is silent. Yes, I've been I've been saying 593 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 7: it wrong the whole time. 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