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Speaker 1: Forty to thirty four. The Lions roar back in the

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Speaker 1: second half thanks to two brock pretty interceptions, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I just it really cracks me up. If you're listening

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Speaker 1: to this, you have a team, and you're a fan,

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Speaker 1: many of your Niner fans, some of your Lion fans.

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Speaker 1: You have to be an adult. If you're a general manager.

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Speaker 1: You're watching John Lynch on TV tonight. How did he

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Speaker 1: react with those brock Purty picks? Baker Mayfield's making thirty

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Speaker 1: three million this year. Brock Purty is not nearly as

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Speaker 1: talented as Baker Mayfield. One's a first round pick. You know,

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Speaker 1: one's number one pick. One's the last guy picked. Baker's

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Speaker 1: got a better arm. I think Baker's a better athlete.

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Speaker 1: Baker leads the NFL in touchdown passes the entire NFL,

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Speaker 1: including Josh Allen and Joe Burrow since he started in Tampa. Well,

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Speaker 1: he's got Mike Evans. Everybody's got a receiver. Everybody's got

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Speaker 1: at least one decent receiver. So here's a prime example,

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Speaker 1: so defensive players in the NFL get hurt more than

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Speaker 1: offensive players statistically, and Detroit's down like seven or eight starters.

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Speaker 1: So this was a moment to really seize an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to beat Detroit. I thought Detroit would win, and my

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Speaker 1: takeaway was because I trusted Golf on the road more

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Speaker 1: than brock pretty at home. I thought it would be

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Speaker 1: a high scoring game just because the Lions, that's all

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Speaker 1: they can play now. They have so many players down

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Speaker 1: and listen, it doesn't help that Jake Moody missed a

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Speaker 1: fifty one yarder and a fifty eight yarder and a

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Speaker 1: pat But folks, there's a reason they were settling for

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Speaker 1: fifty one yarders and fifty eight yarders because there was,

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Speaker 1: for instance, a key third pass by brock Purty in

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Speaker 1: the second half the Juwan Jennings that was behind him.

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Speaker 1: I just don't understand how you can watch brock Purty.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I'd argue, when he got hurt, he'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: But when he got dinged up, they put in Josh Dobbs,

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Speaker 1: who ran for a touchdown that athletically brock Purty would

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Speaker 1: not have raced to the corner and got into the

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Speaker 1: end zone. He could have scrambled, but he's not as

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Speaker 1: fast as athletic as Josh Dobbs, who's a pretty remarkable

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Speaker 1: player who just bounces around the league and he's always

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Speaker 1: pretty effective. But people get so caught up on statistics. Well,

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Speaker 1: he had three hundred and seventy seven yards. First of all,

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Speaker 1: Shanahan is one of the great play scriptors in the league.

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid and Shanahan are probably one and two in

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Speaker 1: the league. Sean Payton's probably third those three guys. Bow

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Speaker 1: Next played Justin Herbert a week ago. Bo Nicks looked

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Speaker 1: way better in the first half than Justin Herbert. Why

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Speaker 1: because the first half is scripted. In the second half

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Speaker 1: against the Chargers defense, bow Knicks didn't look as good.

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Speaker 1: That's about talent in the first half. Brock Purty on

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan's script is remarkable. In the second half, two

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Speaker 1: picks behind Jowan Jennings on a key third down throw.

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Speaker 1: Here are the numbers for Brock Purtty in the second

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Speaker 1: half this year and again the first half, especially when

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Speaker 1: you have elite offensive coordinators or elite play designers like

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid, Sean Payton, Shanahan McVeigh, by the way, is

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Speaker 1: not an elite play designer. The Rams have been an

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Speaker 1: average offense all first half. Nick Sirianni's an offensive coach.

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Speaker 1: He's not an elite play designer. Not all offensive coaches are.

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Speaker 1: Dan Campbell's more offensive side, He's not an elite play designer.

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Speaker 1: Pretty in the second half. First half off and on script.

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Speaker 1: Second half is talent pretty second half this year eight touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter. Broock Perty's awful. This is not his first

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Speaker 1: other thing is Shanahan you get so many open Ricky

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Speaker 1: Pearsall and George Kill opportunities. And this is what Andy

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Speaker 1: Reid does. I mean Andy Reid in a Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: great play designers do. By the way, Ben Johnson's very

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Speaker 1: good tonight in the red zone down near the goal line.

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Speaker 1: You know Jared Goff had open receivers. That's what clever

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Speaker 1: He's good, he's functional. But the idea, I'm gonna pay

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Speaker 1: him forty and fifty million, Baker's make him thirty three million.

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Speaker 1: You got to be kidding me. Yeah, it's just eight touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: those two second half picks, that was the difference. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: think with Purty, you just have to be totally honest.

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Speaker 1: he sits. If Sam Darnold's available, go pay for him.

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Speaker 1: But I'm and this is not hate. Second half numbers abysmal.

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Speaker 1: Second half is off script. That's when the true talent

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Speaker 1: Second half ad libbing, that's when Justin Herbert has been

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Speaker 1: and they gave Detroit pushback when they were all banged up.

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Speaker 1: Now Detroit's all banged up. So Detroit's been this media

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Speaker 1: They were there for the taking. Detroit was there for

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Speaker 1: a rock pretty guy. I am for thirty two million

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Speaker 1: All Right, here we go. Former NFL scout John Middlecoff.

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Speaker 1: They're asking him to make big boy throws. Some of

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, he's treating this guy like Mahomes meets

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Speaker 3: You know, sometimes you can be overjuiced to go seventeen

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Speaker 3: to do immediately? I had to google Jordan Love's contract

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Speaker 3: I don't see how you could take anything less than that.

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Speaker 1: Look at the twenty eighteen draft class, Baker, Darnold, Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: Because I think what Sam has learned is Wow, coaching

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Speaker 3: Of the year. You know, I'm sure we'll talk about

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Speaker 3: Why you would want to mess with that is because

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Speaker 3: you drafted a quarterback who cares.

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Speaker 1: Okay Bill's forty Jets fourteen Jets had sixteen penalties.

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Speaker 1: So I will say this about Buffalo. I think these

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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about Josh Allen. Okay, this

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Speaker 1: to watch Buffalo. They have to at minimum get to

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Speaker 1: the conference championship. At minimum, in my opinion, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean what they're going to be a more than likely.

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Speaker 3: I think Denver's gonna win next week. If Andy rest

426
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Speaker 3: everybody and it's a kitchen sink game for them, they

427
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Speaker 3: would be a huge favorite in that game. I mean

428
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Speaker 3: we're talking touchdown plus maybe eight nine points. I'm pretty

429
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Speaker 3: confident Buffalo wins that game. Game the next game though

430
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Speaker 3: it gets real. I mean, you're playing Baltimore, who feels

431
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Speaker 3: like they're really coming on, right. I don't know what

432
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Speaker 3: Baltimore did, their defense looks better. That would be a

433
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Speaker 3: make or breaker because then if you win that game

434
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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you'd have a lot of momentum

435
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Speaker 3: going into Kansas City, right, and you've beat them already

436
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Speaker 3: this year. So I think it go one to two ways.

437
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Speaker 3: I think they're winning Week one or you know that

438
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Speaker 3: that first in Buffalo, no matter what. I have a

439
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Speaker 3: hard time, but that Week two game against Baltimore is

440
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Speaker 3: a massive, massive games because I because I would say this,

441
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Speaker 3: if they go to Kansas City and they have another

442
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Speaker 3: one of those and I listen, he's had some weird

443
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Speaker 3: moments with clock management. If it feels like he blows

444
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Speaker 3: the game, maybe, but if you get beats like some

445
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 3: people just couldn't be Michael Jordan, some people just couldn't

446
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 3: beat Tiger Woods, I don't think it. I think lose

447
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 3: to Baltimore, you already lost to him this season. You

448
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Speaker 3: get him at home in the second round. I think

449
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Speaker 3: you've got to be in the conference championship game. I

450
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Speaker 3: think you can lose to the Chiefs and keep your

451
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Speaker 3: head high. Yeah, even though it would start to feel

452
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Speaker 3: like are we just always going to be second fiddle?

453
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Speaker 3: Or us in Baltimore is always gonna be second? And

454
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Speaker 3: the fact is, yeah, you might. You know, that was

455
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Speaker 3: kind of like Pittsburgh and some of these other teams

456
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Speaker 3: to Bill Belichick and Tom Brady, you just played for

457
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Speaker 3: second in your conference. But I think they'd have to

458
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Speaker 3: win that game or else it could be weird because

459
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Speaker 3: and listen, I think it's hard. I mean, what do

460
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Speaker 3: you even make of the Jets? The Jets are a joke?

461
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Speaker 3: I mean, and I give the Bills credit. It was

462
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Speaker 3: a little weird early and then it was forty to

463
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Speaker 3: nothing and it's like, okay, you guys are just toying

464
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Speaker 3: with him.

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Speaker 1: Well we learned this. Maddy Eberflus and Robert saw I

466
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Speaker 1: got fired and their teams got worse. So I always

467
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: believe be very careful about firing a coach in season,

468
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Speaker 1: because if the interim coach wins, you get fan and

469
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Speaker 1: player pressure to hire in him coach, and if he loses,

470
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Speaker 1: then you lose the locker room. So they're two and

471
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Speaker 1: nine since Robert Sala left. But I have always felt

472
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Speaker 1: that Solo wasn't the problem. There's an argument he was

473
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Speaker 1: not the solution, but I never thought he was the problem.

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Speaker 3: But really quick, before the Jets on the Bills, if

475
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Speaker 3: you and I own the team and we were sitting down,

476
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Speaker 3: like going to the playoffs, like, what are our different

477
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Speaker 3: options if things go south? Our division is a disaster.

478
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Speaker 3: The Jets couldn't be any more of a laughingstock. The

479
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Speaker 3: Patriots are not even a year away from being a

480
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Speaker 3: year away from winning nine games, and the Dolphins, I mean,

481
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Speaker 3: I just don't really take the franchise safely, and we

482
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Speaker 3: own them. So it's like, now, you know, trying to

483
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Speaker 3: go from really good to great. Totally admire anyone who's

484
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Speaker 3: willing to do that, but it is a pretty risky proposition. Now,

485
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Speaker 3: if that job became open, everyone and their mother would

486
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Speaker 3: be calling them. But I just think that, like, you

487
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Speaker 3: do have a pretty good thing going, yes, And to me,

488
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Speaker 3: especially if you lose the Chiefs, you're gonna keep winning

489
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Speaker 3: twelve thirteen games every year in this division, and you

490
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Speaker 3: know you have a capable guy. I'm just saying it's

491
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Speaker 3: pretty yes, I do you just say you do? You

492
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Speaker 3: ride the course a little bit because the Jets could

493
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Speaker 3: go backwards from here and the Patriots could be stuck

494
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Speaker 3: here for a couple of years. Yeah, no, I think

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Speaker 3: I think it's I think it is something you got

496
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Speaker 3: to take into account.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not saying I had fire Sean McDermott, but

498
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Speaker 1: I do believe the pressure is on Sean McDermott notre

499
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Speaker 1: whereas in Baltimore the pressure's on Lamar. John Harbaugh's got

500
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Speaker 1: a ring the pressure with Joe Flacco. Lamar needs to

501
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Speaker 1: play better. That's that's indisputable. He's got to play better.

502
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Speaker 1: Josh has played very well in most spots.

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Speaker 3: I would agree with that organization. I think most people

504
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Speaker 3: would choose the Ravens roster over the Bills roster. I

505
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 3: think that there's gonna be a tough that game. I mean,

506
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Speaker 3: we have to play it out to look at all

507
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Speaker 3: the different games. That's gotta be one of the better

508
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Speaker 3: playoff games of the entire tournament. If I tell you

509
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Speaker 3: Ravens that Bills, what's on the line for those two guys,

510
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 3: it doesn't. I mean that's Saturday or Sunday night the

511
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Speaker 3: week two. Right, that's as good as it gets.

512
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Speaker 1: So I've been talking about this for two weeks. Nine

513
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Speaker 1: teams right now have four wins or fewer less than

514
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Speaker 1: half of that last year four this year. It's almost

515
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Speaker 1: NBA like there is a lot of bad football. It

516
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Speaker 1: is atrocious. We also have three thirteen win teams, so

517
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Speaker 1: the top is bigger and the bottom's huge. Is it

518
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Speaker 1: a one off or is it the reality now? Of

519
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: two things? The league is now so quarterback centric that

520
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Speaker 1: again Burrows the only good quarterback, elite quarterback that's not

521
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Speaker 1: going to make the playoffs. If you have one, you

522
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Speaker 1: get in. And Cincinnati may still but if you have one,

523
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Speaker 1: you get in. I mean, go, look, I went I'm

524
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Speaker 1: going to go seven for eight I think potentially in

525
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Speaker 1: my division picks. Why because I took the best quarterbacks.

526
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Speaker 1: It's never been easier. And because of every owner's a billionaire,

527
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Speaker 1: there's more chaos and ownership, they're more impulsive. They fire

528
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Speaker 1: people quicker, which creates more chaos. So the bad organizations

529
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Speaker 1: are worse, you know, like the Giants have been bad

530
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Speaker 1: for six years now they're I mean, it's despite today

531
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Speaker 1: it's like, oh my god, this is embarrassing. Chicago's embarrassing.

532
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's a one off I think we're

533
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Speaker 1: gonna have a larger bottom because owners getting wealthier, wealthier,

534
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Speaker 1: they're writing forty eight million dollars to get coaches off

535
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Speaker 1: the payroll. As a rounding air, you used to just

536
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Speaker 1: stick it out? What do you make of this massive

537
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Speaker 1: bottom tier?

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Speaker 3: Now? I feel like for the last couple decades, the

539
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 3: quarterback thing has been pretty true. You know. I think

540
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 3: you've been able to get away with it in the

541
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Speaker 3: eighties and nineties if you built up your team. But

542
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Speaker 3: I think that's been a pretty consistent theme, Like the

543
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Speaker 3: shitty teams don't have a quarterback, that's why they're drafting high.

544
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Speaker 3: I think the money aspect of it and the ability

545
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Speaker 3: to fire whoever. And I think on the flip side,

546
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Speaker 3: you have coaches and executives doing everything humanly possible for power,

547
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Speaker 3: and I would imagine the league's always been relatively political.

548
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 3: But when there is this much money on the line

549
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 3: to be a general manager and pay five I mean,

550
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 3: how many gigs in America paid W two jobs pay

551
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Speaker 3: five million dollars. An assistant coach as a coordinator makes

552
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 3: two three million dollars. They're not the decision maker, they're

553
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 3: not near the top of the org chart, they're way down.

554
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 3: They don't have any responsibility really beside calling the plays

555
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 3: in terms of when shit hits the fan. So I

556
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 3: think you have a lot of Like I think it's

557
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 3: much more difficult. We talk about this a lot with players,

558
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 3: you know, building a team, and I think young people

559
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 3: naturally kind of gravitate toward each other and good teams

560
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 3: like everyone's kind of friends. I think coaching is just

561
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 3: so corporate. Everyone's trying to take out each other. You

562
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Speaker 3: can't trust anybody. I think the league, the amount of

563
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 3: money that has come in for front office and coaching

564
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Speaker 3: has made this completely separate from a lot of politicians

565
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Speaker 3: in the end, just because you work in the NFL

566
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Speaker 3: and I wasn't there long, but I always had this

567
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 3: asp like once you get there, everyone is such a

568
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Speaker 3: high level guy. It's just not the case, right. And

569
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Speaker 3: then the longer I've been around this, knowing a bunch

570
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 3: of people with a bunch of teams, you hear these stories.

571
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Speaker 3: It's just like any industry when there's a lot of money,

572
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 3: the cream will always separate. But people can still make

573
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Speaker 3: a lot of money being shitty. And how often do

574
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 3: we see I mean, the Atlanta Falcons are about to

575
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 3: play like McKay runs Arthur Blank's trust, you know, and

576
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 3: he like runs the football. But you know, it becomes

577
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 3: like these family businesses, but these are billion dollar businesses.

578
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Speaker 3: Most family. I've had some family business like close personal

579
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 3: friends that run family businesses and got bought out for

580
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 3: let's say twenty thirty million dollars. Like that's an American

581
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 3: success story. They built this business, they sold it for

582
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Speaker 3: thirty forty million dollars. These people have businesses that are

583
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 3: worth not a billion. We're talking like six seven. If

584
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 3: Mark Davis put the Raiders for sale, I mean, could

585
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Speaker 3: he get eight? Could he get nine? I mean, how

586
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 3: many companies in America are worth as much money? I think,

587
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 3: and the Raiders are a good example. They've always had

588
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Speaker 3: these people that like leads their way in because it's

589
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 3: just like a money training. I think it's hard for

590
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Speaker 3: some of these owners. And we look at all the

591
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 3: bad teams. It's all these owners that are listening to

592
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 3: the wrong people. Yeah, but you know who Steve Bushatty

593
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 3: listens to Da Costa, Ozzy and Harbaugh. You know New

594
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 3: York's it's New John and Kyle. It's like the I

595
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 3: think the chiefs Andy and Veach are very simple. They

596
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 3: operate like a small business. These others start operating like

597
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 3: fortune five hundred companies where I want it on the

598
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 3: board of directors, I got an idea for you. The

599
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 3: kids are involved, and it just becomes Wackoville. And obviously

600
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 3: because it's so public and it's a fun thing. It's

601
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 3: why Kevin Warren. Kevin Warren has a seven figure job,

602
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 3: but you know what his job, No one cares. When

603
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 3: he sells PSLs or sells the naming right steel for

604
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 3: hundreds of millions of dollars, no one will give a shit.

605
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 3: But you know what people care about your third round

606
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 3: pick the offensive coordinator. And so when you can start

607
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 3: getting involved with that, and I think that has permeated

608
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 3: all over the league, or at least you know, all

609
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 3: these crappy teams, and I think they struggle with that.

610
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 3: And these owners have money. Everyone's just trying to leach

611
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 3: on because the money right now is I mean, it's

612
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 3: like outrageous. I mean it's crazy. If you could bring

613
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 3: back Lamar Hunt and Al Davis and Eddie de Barbelow

614
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 3: and I would have told these guys in the eighties

615
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 3: what this would become. No one could have foreseen what

616
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Speaker 3: it has become. I mean we've seen it come in

617
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 3: the last decade, but forty years when I was a

618
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 3: kid in football. I mean the teller capt one point time.

619
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Speaker 3: I think when it first started, it wasn't like thirty

620
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 3: forty million dollars. Yeah, that was thirty years ago. John

621
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 3: Madden was being paid eight million dollars, making more than

622
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Speaker 3: like all the players.

623
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Speaker 1: So listen to thirteen member committee selected, you know, the

624
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Speaker 1: teams to get in. And this is what bureaucrats and

625
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: you know, people who are political create. Is that nobody

626
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: thought SMU and Boise State they didn't look the part

627
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: in the regular season. You know they play in weaker conferences.

628
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: But the thing that really outraged me was Oregon's first

629
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Speaker 1: game against the winner of Ohio State Tennessee, which is

630
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Speaker 1: a much tougher path than Penn State. It's against SMU

631
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Speaker 1: and Boise State. So the failing of the committee and

632
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 1: committees are created to innately fail. I mean, it's thirteen

633
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: different people with thirteen different opinions. We know, juries in

634
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: this country have let the wrong people walk. In my life,

635
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: I just look at Oregon season and they were the

636
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Speaker 1: best team on the field, and it's very hard to

637
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Speaker 1: ask somebody to beat somebody for a second time. I

638
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: picked Ohio State to win it. I didn't think it

639
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: would look like this. But that's not the inclusion of

640
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: Boise State or SMU. This is what bothered me.

641
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I clearly Oregon got a raw deal.

642
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 3: But let's face it, the Walehio State has played the

643
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 3: first game, and the way they look in the second game,

644
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 3: I don't think anyone would sniff them right now. They

645
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 3: would beat everyone in the country easily. But I hear you.

646
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I think part of it is they were

647
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 3: so there's so much cya of not getting sued. We

648
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 3: had to include a non power forward program showed out decently,

649
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 3: I thought, yeah, right, and so today a shoe who

650
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 3: plays in the Power Fife Conference. But we all look

651
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 3: at Big twelve like, are they any good?

652
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: Right?

653
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 3: I think you could argue also, Oregon, these teams, you're

654
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 3: all tied in with the bulls, with this money, so

655
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 3: many people with their hands in the cookie jar. How

656
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 3: does Oregon not get a home game? How do these

657
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 3: teams Texas? I mean, it's a pretty big advantage to

658
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 3: play in these neutral site games. What's the point of

659
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 3: play it all season?

660
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Oregon did not get a home game.

661
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: That to me is just you gotta be kidding me.

662
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 1: I mean Notre Dame lost to a directional school and

663
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: got one crazy not even a good directional school. Let's

664
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Speaker 1: talk about Ohio State and listen, when you go to

665
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 1: a movie, if you went to a movie that took

666
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: a while to build up but the ending was great,

667
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: I always thought that was usual suspects. It's a good movie,

668
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: you go home feeling great. If a movie starts fast

669
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: and dies out, you never feel satisfied. College football now

670
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: has a bigger, more dynamic ending to the season. But

671
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 1: it does, and we knew this was coming.

672
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Speaker 3: John.

673
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Speaker 1: It's not that the regular season doesn't matter, but Ohio

674
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: State not only lost a horrible game, they lost it late,

675
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: and they looked like garbage against Michigan and they still

676
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: got in. Now I don't have a problem with them

677
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: getting in. I don't mind the regular season meaningless because

678
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna watch the games. I watch the NFL.

679
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: I know that you can start off one and four

680
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: and make the playoffs. I still watch the games. I

681
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 1: think we put I think the narrative that it's going

682
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: to kill college football. College football ratings this year were good.

683
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: It's just what it means is if you're a good

684
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: team with lots of blowouts, you can even lose a

685
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: really ugly game late and you get in. And my

686
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: take is, yeah, the Kansas City Chiefs lost the Raiders

687
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: late in the season last year and won the Super Bowl.

688
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 1: You shouldn't be punished severely if you're excellent just because

689
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: you lose in November and not in September. So I'm

690
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: that part of it has never bothered me that the

691
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: regular season will mean less. I'm still watching the games.

692
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Speaker 3: I think there's a magnifying glass. I was just thinking

693
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 3: to listen to you talk. I don't think there's a

694
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 3: game that actually means more a non playoff game in

695
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 3: college football or the NFL than Ohio State versus Michigan.

696
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 3: I think it's clearly separated as the game that means

697
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 3: the most. Saban recently went off. He can't comprehend because

698
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 3: even in his mind, he was able to make every

699
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 3: game the same, even though they had Auburn as one

700
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 3: of the biggest rivalries in college football. Tennessee is a

701
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 3: big rivalry but it never felt any different than when

702
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 3: they played Ole Miss than when they played LSU. He

703
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 3: was BELICHICKI in that way, every opponent meant a lot.

704
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 3: At Ohio State, it just doesn't. I mean even Ryan

705
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 3: Day said like this can never happen again. That was

706
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 3: three days before they lost, you know, so the emphasis

707
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 3: that has been put on that game, and I think

708
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 3: Harbaugh helped take it to another level. And then Ryan

709
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,959
Speaker 3: Day starting to lose, and I just think that game

710
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 3: feels like five games in one and then the way

711
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 3: they lost, and in fairess, you watch Michigan twenty four

712
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 3: hours ago against Alabama. Now I understand Alabama has had

713
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 3: some opt outs. They look pretty good. I mean, they're

714
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 3: coming to play. They have a defensive coordinator that makes

715
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 3: two and a half million dollars that was just coaching

716
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 3: at Baltimore a couple of years ago and was viewed

717
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 3: as one of the best defensive minds in football. So

718
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 3: it's like that's a real, real defense. And I just

719
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 3: think you look at that game, it was hard not

720
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 3: to overreact, but it might have just been as simple

721
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 3: as the coaching staff, specifically Ryan the players. They got

722
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 3: a little tight because the way they've looked now, it's

723
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 3: like a looseness. We have been talking about their roster

724
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 3: and the talent on their team. Like to me, the

725
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 3: difference of them in Texas, Texas man for man is

726
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 3: loaded as well their quarterback. I'm sorry, I just don't

727
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,959
Speaker 3: trust on a play and play. Will Howard's playing pretty

728
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 3: well right now. Will Howard we have seen in the

729
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 3: first playoff game and the second playoff game is gonna

730
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 3: look like this. They're just not gonna lose, right And

731
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 3: they have a wide receiver, an eighteen year old kid.

732
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 3: It looks like you weighs two hundred and thirty pounds.

733
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Speaker 3: That is unstoppable because John, like Oregon's not trying to

734
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 3: cover them, they just can't.

735
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Speaker 1: You're you're a former NFL scout. Because Travis Hunter won

736
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: to go both ways. If you told me today Caleb

737
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 1: Downs and Jeremiah Smith and the Buckeyes were in this draft,

738
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Speaker 1: I would take them one and two in any order

739
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: because Travis Hunter, I do not like this high profile

740
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: want to play both sides the ball. Eventually you're going

741
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: to have to pick a side. I think Caleb Downs

742
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: is a better corner than Travis Hunter. I think he's

743
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 1: one of the best college players I've seen in the backfield.

744
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding me when I say this. I was

745
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: told by an NFL general manager that Caleb Downs will

746
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: be the number one pick next year. He said, I

747
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 1: don't care who improves he goes outside of a star quarterback,

748
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: and we may have one. If Drew Allert Penn State flourishes,

749
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: he may come out this year, next year, whatever. But

750
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith and Caleb Downs, and they're not eligible for

751
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: the draft. Those guys are not college players. They're pros

752
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: playing on Saturday. So my takeaway is Ohio State has

753
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: two players won on both sides. They're just not college players.

754
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 1: I felt this about Jamar Chase at LSU. It's like, Okay,

755
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 1: that's not a college player. It's a pro playing on Saturdays.

756
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: If he was a basketball player, he'd be in the NBA.

757
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 3: I think the problem with Travis Hunter, and I saw

758
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 3: Dion say this within the last month, do not draft

759
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 3: him if you don't embrace him playing both ways, because

760
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 3: that's the game plan. And to me, Dion not only

761
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 3: speaks as his coach, it feels like he speaks as

762
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 3: his parent, feels like he speaks as his agent, like

763
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 3: that's his representation for Travis Hunter, and I do think

764
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 3: that's going to be complicated because he is truly dead

765
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 3: set on that and based on what he's doing in college.

766
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 3: I understand that mindset. I don't believe it can work

767
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 3: because of the wear and tear. You know, same, But

768
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 3: like you say, those other two guys like just have

769
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 3: defined roles. It's very defined because I my thing with

770
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter is if you're my best corner, my best

771
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,720
Speaker 3: wide receiver, if you get injured, I lose two players.

772
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,240
Speaker 3: You know, were those other guys you also get rest,

773
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 3: So I yeah, I hear you. Jeremiah Smith thing. I

774
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 3: don't remember seeing a wide receiver this time, this early,

775
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 3: where his body type was that physically developed.

776
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it reminds me of when I was

777
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: a sportscaster in Las Vegas. I covered Larry Johnson, the

778
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 1: basketball player at UNLV, and that was before weightlifting was

779
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: a part of sports in general. I mean, it was

780
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 1: out there, but it wasn't like basketball players weren't spending

781
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 1: a lot of time in the gym. But Larry Johnson

782
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: was so physically dominant that at the college level, you

783
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: got twenty six points just on putbacks just on second opportunities.

784
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: He weighs. He weighed forty five pounds more than other

785
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: forwards and was stronger than all of them. So I

786
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: just look. And here's the thing about Will Howard. I

787
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: mean to me, he's a big, strong kid who's mobile.

788
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 1: So he's a draftable player.

789
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 3: You know.

790
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 1: I saw him play at Kansas State. I thought, that's

791
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 1: a big strong kid. Now you give him star players.

792
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's an NFL starter, but I

793
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: think right now Ohio State has the best combination of

794
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: coaching and talent. Whether they have better talent than Georgia

795
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,439
Speaker 1: or or or Texas, you know, who knows. But last

796
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: year Michigan only had like three five star guys. Alabama

797
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: had like eighteen. You know, Georgia has fifteen over the

798
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 1: last couple of years. So talent's hard to do. You

799
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 1: get the most out of your talent. But I don't

800
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: think we're overreacting to say that the last two games,

801
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: Ohio State's hitting harder, they're more explosive. They don't look

802
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: these these games. They're intimidating Oregon, they intimidated Tennessee. They

803
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: looked like Tyson at twenty one years old like other

804
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: big men feared him in the ring. Ohio State looks.

805
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: I think Oregon like surrendered about eight minutes in.

806
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 3: It was like it was over. Well. The irony was

807
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 3: is when the other game ended and you came right

808
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 3: to the game and it was seven to nothing and

809
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 3: you're like, whoa, we'll there's a minute end of the game.

810
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 3: And then Fowler was like, yeah, it was a two

811
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 3: play seventy yard drive. You're like, uh, that's gonna be

812
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 3: a problem. But we had just seen the same thing

813
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 3: with Texas. And then they slowed down right Ohio State.

814
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 3: Their foot never came off the pedal. I do wonder

815
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 3: if after because they tried to get into a heavyweight

816
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 3: fight with Michigan instead of just slinging the rock around

817
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 3: where Michigan wouldn't slow them down, and they lost and

818
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 3: it bit them, and I think everyone called out their

819
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 3: manhood and their toughness, like you think you're a tough program,

820
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 3: We've seen you against this Harbaugh level operation, and I

821
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 3: would say Michigan still has that soul in them the

822
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 3: way they play, and you're not as tough as them,

823
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 3: and they go, we are a tough team. We've paid

824
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 3: a premium for all these guys. I mean, you see

825
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 3: the physicality and the speed in which they have and

826
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 3: it's almost like they got to reset and take it

827
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 3: personally because they've come out with a violence that you

828
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 3: just haven't seen in college football.

829
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think perfect word is violent. They look

830
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 1: violent defensively. Two takeaways. First, Kenny Dillingham, who was an

831
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator briefly at three schools, is a sensational coach.

832
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: They had five hundred and ten yards. They had twenty

833
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: eight to seventeen first down advantage. Evan is sixty play advantage,

834
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: twenty eight to seventeen first down edge. And I don't

835
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:08,720
Speaker 1: believe they have a five star athlete one the level

836
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,479
Speaker 1: of coaching and you know what I like, they don't.

837
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: I mean cam Scoutabo is one Division one offer. Now

838
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: he's gonna end up getting drafted. As you've talked about,

839
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: this is the best running back draft in a long time. Jesus,

840
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 1: I mean, good God, the Penn State has that Singleton kid.

841
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: He didn't get talked about instead of Ashton Genty. If

842
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: Singleton goes to the right team with a better offensive line,

843
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: he could end up being the better running back in

844
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: the NFL, so there's just running backs everywhere. But I mean,

845
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: I like Sam Levitt a lot. He's a very young quarterback.

846
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: He will be a pro six two and a half

847
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: two ten, dual threat mobile.

848
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 3: You know.

849
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: Again, you can see him and think, oh, that's what

850
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: a pro is going to look like in two years.

851
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: I think he's like twenty years old in two years,

852
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: and so the quarterback's good. But to have that kind

853
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: of dominance thirty seven to twenty two minute time of

854
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: advantage when Texas has I bet you at least sixteen

855
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: fourteen to sixteen five star guys and forty four star guys.

856
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: To me, I thought, if I was start coming out

857
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: of that game, I'd be a little embarrassed. I thought

858
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: it was a coaching mismatch.

859
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. I thought he even kind of mentioned that, like

860
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 3: that was we gotta play a lot better. He was

861
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 3: in his postgame interview on the field, it looked like

862
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 3: he was pretty show shocked. I mean, at one point

863
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 3: in time, it was fourth and thirteen. I me, it's

864
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 3: basically fourth in Texas or the game's over. And then

865
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 3: they scored that touchdown on the D bunk. Yeah, geez, Luise, Uh,

866
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 3: you know one thing. You know, the Boise State team

867
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 3: that we saw play Penn State is not as good

868
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 3: as Chris Peterson's Boisese teams, but they just have an

869
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 3: all time great player. Yep. This ASU team. The more

870
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 3: and more I watched them today reminded me a lot

871
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 3: of those Chris Peterson teams because probably has more guys

872
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 3: that you realize that it probably end up going like sixth,

873
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 3: seventh round. And they just had a grittiness, a toughness

874
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 3: to him. The quarterback was really fantastic. I mean he

875
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 3: had to pull plays out of as you know what,

876
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 3: just to give them an opportunity. Yeah, and that running back,

877
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 3: I mean, I thought, listen to hype on him. This

878
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 3: kind of is easy for everyone to latch onto this

879
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 3: white guy running guys over. He might have had the

880
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 3: flu or something today because he was clearly sucking some

881
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 3: win and throwing up He single handedly gives them an

882
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 3: edge and obviously the double pass, but he was freaking

883
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 3: fantastic and break thirty against those guys.

884
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: Thirty you know, carries one hundred and forty three yards.

885
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: I watched him and I thought he's the guy that

886
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 1: played for Tampa years ago.

887
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 3: The ball stop Mike Alstadt.

888
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like he is a there's a Mike Allstock component.

889
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: I think he's got a little better speed. Maybe he doesn't,

890
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: but here he's a kid. I think he's out of

891
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,919
Speaker 1: like Sacramento or something. He had like one one scholarship

892
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: offer that is a pro. But I think Dillingham, you know,

893
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: he grew up a chandler Arizona. He always wanted to

894
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: be Arizona State's coach. This is his dream job. This

895
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: is not a stepping stone, like, this is the job

896
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: he always wanted. And it's cool because I think Arizona

897
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: States has been one of those programs we think is

898
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,720
Speaker 1: a little bit of a sleeping giant, like why aren't

899
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: they better? And I think they found they're Chris Peterson.

900
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: I think they found a brilliant coach. But the Texas

901
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: thing and I wrote this down and listen, Sark Saban

902
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: loved him. Washington had a good ad that loved him,

903
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:37,959
Speaker 1: USC hired him. Texas is ad. Chris Decante is maybe

904
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:44,439
Speaker 1: the smartest ad in the country. Smart people higher Sark Okay,

905
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 1: John like three schools with big football brands have hired him.

906
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: NFL teams liked him. Saban loved him. We know he's

907
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: a good coach, but one of the things, and we

908
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: know he can scheme plays. I mean they have. I

909
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: thought today they had a couple of different crisis situations

910
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: where they had good scheme plays. But I will say

911
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: his teams feel loose. So it's easy from a couch

912
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: from somebody to say he's overrated. But if Saban thinks

913
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 1: you're a good coach, and he won. He won Assistant

914
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: of the Year in college under Saban, and he's had

915
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: three different programs hire him, and again he may end

916
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,439
Speaker 1: up in the national you know. I mean, this guy

917
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,720
Speaker 1: is in the right spot, right he's in the playoff.

918
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: How do you define him? My knock on him is

919
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: that his teams always look loose, like they're just not

920
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: buttoned up, which is interesting because he coached under Saban,

921
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: who's the opposite. That's my take. And I don't know,

922
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what his comp is, but I just

923
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: feel like too many times on the passing game, it's

924
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: a jump ball, like he doesn't have defined reads. Too

925
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: often it's just like, let's just get better players and

926
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: throw a ball at the sideline. Is that yours are sharp?

927
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 3: Yeah? To me? Been as critical in Sark as anyone

928
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 3: over the years. I've been an astronomical amount of money

929
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 3: when my guy did Bor played him last year and

930
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 3: I thought that was it should have been easier. But

931
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 3: I'm going to defend him here. I think you can

932
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 3: look at yours box score. It doesn't look that bad.

933
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 3: He's twenty to thirty three, twenty two. To me, he's

934
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 3: a liability. And I just I mean it for the

935
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 3: talent that they have, because the one knock you've had

936
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 3: on Sark, if you've just watched them coach over the year,

937
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,959
Speaker 3: it's like a kind of a soft operation, a little

938
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 3: like Lincoln Riley, Well he pivoted pretty well, used that

939
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 3: check book. Their defense is not soft. I mean, look today.

940
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 3: I mean the way they got back into the game

941
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 3: was a freak double pass where the guy's covered and

942
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 3: he comes back Scouto underthrows him. You know, I I

943
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 3: the kicker missed a couple kicks. I mean it hadn't

944
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 3: he been nails all season long? Yeah, so it's a

945
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 3: little freakish. The way they came back. I mean that

946
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 3: game was one for the ages. With the stuff. I

947
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 3: think you look at quinn Ewers, who again if you

948
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,720
Speaker 3: just look at the box score, doesn't look that terrible.

949
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 3: This a national championship roster without a national che ambiship quarterback.

950
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 3: I actually think Sark has grown a lot. I think

951
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 3: he tries to call plays around this player. Sometimes. I

952
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 3: think he gets into situations where he doesn't trust them.

953
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 3: You know, that's the thing with Dilley Haam like they

954
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 3: have full trust in that court doesn't have a choice,

955
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 3: you know. I think sometimes just like hey, we could

956
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 3: just run some bubble screens. Our athletes are better than

957
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 3: your athletes, right and sometimes for whatever reason, how this

958
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 3: team fifty three yards rushing fifty three yards rushing against ASU,

959
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 3: Like you would think with the amount of talent they

960
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 3: have on their offensive line and the talent they have

961
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 3: a running back. If you would have said what do

962
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,439
Speaker 3: they rush for coming into this ASU game, I would

963
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 3: have said easily one hundred and forty yards and they

964
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 3: just had it wasn't working. They just abandoned it and

965
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 3: ASU selling out like make Quinn youwers beat us, which

966
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 3: ironically kind of did in the overtime because you didn't

967
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,439
Speaker 3: cover anyone in the end zone. But for most part,

968
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 3: the reason they got back into it the interception. How

969
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,280
Speaker 3: many times this year have Texas been in a position

970
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 3: where they can really put the nail in the coffin

971
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 3: and Quinn Ewers turns the ball over, Or they're down

972
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 3: in a game against George they're coming back and he

973
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 3: turns the ball over. There is just an element of

974
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 3: I mean, if he was an NFL player, he would

975
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 3: be highly, highly criticized, and I would imagine the Texas

976
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 3: Reddit community, in the football community. He's a pretty polarizing guy,

977
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 3: and everyone's like, we're going to arch banding next year.

978
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 3: Know if fans or busts about it. If I was

979
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 3: a Texas fan, I'd be like, well, why is he

980
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 3: just playing right now? Because if he's as good as

981
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 3: everyone says he's gonna be, and he's a manning, I mean,

982
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 3: who the only team that I've seen that could even

983
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 3: remotely play with us would be Ohio State. We can't

984
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 3: beat Ohio State with this player. That's what I would

985
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 3: be thinking. And if there's a loyalty and listen, I

986
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 3: think this is where coaches sometimes are different than personnel

987
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,919
Speaker 3: people definitely different fans. They're very loyal to a guy. Clearly,

988
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 3: him and Quinn have a long standing relationship. Now he's

989
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 3: roaded with them this long. They've had a lot of success.

990
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 3: Right last year they were in the playoffs. This year

991
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 3: they're now in the final four. But man, I think

992
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 3: you have this great I mean, they're defense. How many

993
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 3: those guys look like NFL players and they have freshmen

994
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 3: that look like they're gonna be top ten picks. And

995
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 3: what are they gonna be against Ohio State? Would you

996
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 3: guess a six point underdog? Oh?

997
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would. That's a that's a great question. I

998
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: would take Ohio State minus six to me. I wouldn't

999
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: take Texas until we got into like seven and a half.

1000
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: Penn State thirty one Boise State fourteen. Boise State, for

1001
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: the record, had the ball in the red zone. I

1002
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: counted four times it could have been five, and didn't

1003
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: get any points. So Penn State gave them multiple opportunities

1004
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: to make that game much closer. Boise State had a

1005
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: touchdown that was called back because of a holding penalty.

1006
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: So it was thirty one to fourteen, but it was

1007
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: it didn't look like a blowout. I mean there was

1008
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,720
Speaker 1: multiple opportunities to a Boiset game. It was a good game.

1009
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: So it's really interesting. So First of all, Carter is

1010
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 1: a top five player. He got banged up. Great player

1011
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 1: Nick Singleton, who was a Gatorade player the year in

1012
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: high school. He's going to be a stud. Pro running

1013
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: back Drew Aller is fascinating, big guy, big arm. There

1014
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: are stories out there that NFL scouts think he may

1015
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: still go pro, and many say he would go number

1016
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: one simply on arm, strength and size. Can I look

1017
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: at Penn State and I have great respect for the program,

1018
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: but they remind me a little bit of a poor

1019
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: man's Ohio State. They're just never quite they don't have

1020
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 1: quite as many NFL guys, They're just not quite as good.

1021
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: People criticize James Franklin, but the guy wonted Vandy, so

1022
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: he's fine. He's a great recruiter. Can Penn State win

1023
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: the Natty?

1024
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 3: I think they need Carter to be healthy because early

1025
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 3: in that game he had won pass rusher like Holy,

1026
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 3: that looks like Micah Parsons in number eleven. And then

1027
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 3: when you go with the other guys, I told you

1028
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 3: I think last week, I think they could win the

1029
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 3: whole thing. But he's I mean, you lose a top

1030
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 3: five player. I don't care how good your recruiting is

1031
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 3: it's pretty damn good. That'd be a big blow. But

1032
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 3: how good does Warren look? The running backs look fantastic,

1033
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 3: the quarterbacks playing great is to you just trust James Franklin.

1034
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 3: I think the one thing we saw with ASU and

1035
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 3: Boise there's a gritty diss and a toughness that just

1036
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 3: even Ohio State. Ohio State's showing it now, but they

1037
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 3: go for a long period of time without it because

1038
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 3: they don't need it. Yeah, Boise State for twenty five

1039
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 3: years is built on that, and I think Kenny Dillinghan

1040
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 3: has brought that to Arizona State, and that's why they

1041
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 3: can go toe to toe with a team where they

1042
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,439
Speaker 3: don't have one guy that would start for the other team.

1043
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's truly if you remove Genty, which

1044
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 3: I mean gent would technically start for Penn State, but

1045
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 3: they would rotate the other guys in Yes, Singleton.

1046
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:34,959
Speaker 1: Singleton's a great running back.

1047
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I actually learn more about Genty in that

1048
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 3: game than I do with some of his two hundred

1049
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,399
Speaker 3: and fifty yard games against New Mexico running over Penn State.

1050
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 3: It was an impressive, just gritty effort by the guy

1051
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 3: running for every yard was contested running his ass off.

1052
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 3: He's a he's a big time player. Yeah.

1053
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: He he doesn't fumble, but he did twice in this game.

1054
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 1: Now he only f frea g Yeah, he only averaged

1055
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,919
Speaker 1: three and a half yards of carry. I think part

1056
00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: of gent's strength. I mean I don't put him on

1057
00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: the class of Zeke or Saquon Adrian Peterson. Er McCaffrey

1058
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: is an NFL first round running back. I don't he'll

1059
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 1: go first round because it's a weak draft.

1060
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 3: But he's five eight. I mean that's kind of a

1061
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 3: you know, it's not ideal.

1062
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think his strength is that he is so

1063
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: small and so powerful. He is hard, you know, like

1064
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: we're running backs. You don't want a six to two

1065
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 1: running back. I think he's hard. To get that pad

1066
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: level low enough to get him a shot, and so

1067
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 1: what you end up doing when you tackle him, it's

1068
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: almost always arm tackles because he's five to eight, so

1069
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 1: when he lowers, so when he runs and lowers his head,

1070
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 1: it's like tackling a five to five and a half guy.

1071
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: He always has the center of gravity and he always

1072
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: has sort of leverage on you hips down, and so

1073
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: it's like Penn State guys held him to three and

1074
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 1: a half yards to carry, but he broke so many

1075
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: arm tackles and I so it's like, I look at

1076
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:57,439
Speaker 1: him as a first round running back in a week draft.

1077
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: I don't look at him as an NFL superstar. I

1078
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: don't think he has the juice of Saquon I don't

1079
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: think he has the strength or speed of Adrian Peterson.

1080
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:07,879
Speaker 1: I don't think he's his talent that is McCaffrey, who's

1081
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 1: also small. I think part of the package with him

1082
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: is you just can't get under him and his size

1083
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: is and I think in the NFL he'll have success,

1084
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: but I don't know as I watch him. My take

1085
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: is he'll need the right fit in the NFL to

1086
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: be a star. But he is a starter.

1087
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, to me, he's gonna get drafted really high.

1088
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be a good player in the NFL.

1089
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 3: I would struggle. You know, let's say somewhere between fifteen

1090
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 3: and twenty five. I think a lot of people think

1091
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 3: that's the range he's gonna get picked. Well, if I'm

1092
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 3: drafting twentieth and then my next pick is fiftieth, why

1093
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 3: wouldn't I If I could take a corner or no

1094
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 3: offensive lineman at twentieth. I can get one of these

1095
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 3: other good running backs at fiftieth. So it's kind of

1096
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 3: supply demand. It's always why a lot of people why

1097
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 3: did Jim Harbaugh take the tackle at five and then

1098
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 3: take lad McConkey in the second round. Because there's a

1099
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 3: ton of wide receivers in every draft, So I'm gonna

1100
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 3: get a guy. It starts in the second round. We

1101
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 3: see it every year with wide receivers. Like, you know,

1102
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 3: would you take a wide receiver in the top ten? Well,

1103
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 3: if I'm drafting after you, I hope you do, so

1104
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,479
Speaker 3: I can take another position. I can take a wide

1105
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 3: receiver later. So I mean every game I watch Henderson

1106
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 3: for Ohio State, he's an NFL player. All these teams

1107
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 3: have NFL players and running back. So why would I

1108
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 3: take a running back in the first round if I

1109
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 3: think I get ninety five percent or ninety percent of

1110
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 3: that guy? Maybe in a third round? Well, if I

1111
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 3: get Skataboo, Skataboo's gonna run like a four to seven five.

1112
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 3: What if I can get the guy in the third run.

1113
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 3: You don't think Jim Harbaugh's gonna like Skataboo. Does that

1114
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 3: guy have charger written all over? Yeah?

1115
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's I think I told you this recently.

1116
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: Wood he marks for USC is their best back since

1117
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: Reggie Bush. He maybe a fifth round back. Now maybe

1118
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: Genti's better than him, He's not that much better than him.

1119
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: Like it is a loaded I mean this. This Singleton

1120
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: kid at Penn State was the National Gatorade Player of

1121
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: the Year, was the Big Ten Freshman of the Year.

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00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: He Singleton is again. I mean, I don't know as measurables,

1123
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: but he's like six feet two twenty seven with a burst.

1124
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: It's like if anybody dropped in the first round. I

1125
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: could see gent dropping. Not because he's not good, but

1126
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: because of the depth of the position, the volume