WEBVTT - The Returns: Hush Rush

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin. I promise not to get too technical with you,

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<v Speaker 1>but bear with me for a second. I am speaking

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<v Speaker 1>to you now through an electro voice ARI twenty microphone.

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<v Speaker 1>It's black with a mesh cap at the top, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of clunky, very eighties looking. It's pretty weighty. I think

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<v Speaker 1>if you clubbed someone with it, you could probably knock

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<v Speaker 1>them unconscious. Same deal if you just talk real slow

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<v Speaker 1>and boring. Some people, people who spend all their time

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about recording equipment, think it sounds honky in the parlance.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not entirely sure what that means. In any way,

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<v Speaker 1>I like it. My Ari twenty, however, is not gold plated.

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<v Speaker 1>But today on the show, we have the story of

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who's was Rush Limbaugh is probably the most famous

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<v Speaker 1>conservative talk radio host of the twentieth and twenty first century.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a larger than life personnel, and he contributed

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot to the hyper partisan, hyper polarized media

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<v Speaker 1>landscape we live in today. Making the story you're about

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<v Speaker 1>to hear, we listened to a lot of Rush limbat tape,

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<v Speaker 1>and when you listen to enough of it, you begin

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<v Speaker 1>to feel his voice like it's hammering into your skull.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever you think of the man's politics. He was an

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<v Speaker 1>all time Hall of Fame shock chock. He was very,

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<v Speaker 1>very good at his job. When he really wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>make a point, he'd lean in really close to the

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<v Speaker 1>microphone like this. It's called eating the microphone. Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>episode I'm about to play you is about how that

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<v Speaker 1>gold plated microphone eight American politics. Since the beginning of radio,

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<v Speaker 1>people have worried about its power. On the radio, millions

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<v Speaker 1>of people can hear a single voice all at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, with sound effects and on scene reporting, radio

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<v Speaker 1>could put images and ideas into the listener's mind, your mind.

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<v Speaker 1>People thought it was so powerful it could be a

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<v Speaker 1>great tool for democracy, a way to educate everyone in

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<v Speaker 1>the country. But if radio was that powerful, couldn't it

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<v Speaker 1>be a tool for totalitarianism and groupthink. In nineteen thirty three,

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<v Speaker 1>Hitler's propaganda minister Joseph Gerbels wrote, the German radio, under

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<v Speaker 1>national socialist auspices must become the clearest and most direct

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<v Speaker 1>instrument for educating and restructuring the German nation end quote.

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<v Speaker 1>In the US people were worried about that version of

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<v Speaker 1>the radio, so they made laws and rules and norms

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<v Speaker 1>to keep it at bay, the fairness doctrine, equal time.

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<v Speaker 1>Those were some of them. But surveying the last one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred years of media history, you might get the feeling

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<v Speaker 1>that fairness and equality haven't really been the trajectory. This

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<v Speaker 1>episode looks at what went wrong with the media and

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<v Speaker 1>politics and points to the history of the moment we're

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<v Speaker 1>in now, where it seems as if every American lives

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<v Speaker 1>in his or her own version of reality. From our

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<v Speaker 1>second season, recorded back in twenty twenty one, Here's hush Rush.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a place in our world where the known things go.

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<v Speaker 2>A corridor of the mind, lined with shelves cluttered with proof. Inside.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been cataloging my collection of evidence about propagandists, hypnotists

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<v Speaker 2>and conspiracy theorists, labeling reels with masking tape and sharpies,

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<v Speaker 2>organizing them by date, reel after reel of tape. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like the Nixon Novle Office in here, recordings of the

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<v Speaker 2>sorts of people we've been listening to all season, episode

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<v Speaker 2>after episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Your command of whole life in the months of worldwide lungfuls.

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<v Speaker 4>The man who makes his living by telling the truth, the.

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<v Speaker 5>Man who I got to say.

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<v Speaker 4>I want you to keep on going back and back

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<v Speaker 4>and back in your mind, the wall of secrecy, the

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<v Speaker 4>news media being silent, and the Patsy's locked up, and

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<v Speaker 4>the psychological profile.

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<v Speaker 2>Robert Ripley, access Sally, Maury Bernstein, May Brussel, Valentine, Yeah, boys,

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<v Speaker 2>Kaya and I I mean, each of them asking you,

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<v Speaker 2>the listener, to doubt what you think you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>very often that doubt is delivered through the medium of radio.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got just one more of these voices. He's all

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<v Speaker 2>the rest, all balled up together.

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<v Speaker 6>You are, my.

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<v Speaker 7>Friends, about to be exposed to the kind of bristling,

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<v Speaker 7>cogent analysis available nowhere else. Because of this, your initial

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<v Speaker 7>reaction may be shock and disbelief.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the voice of mister Rush Limbaugh. And I'm Jill Lapour,

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<v Speaker 2>host of a show that could hardly be more different

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<v Speaker 2>from the Rush Limbaugh Show. Welcome to the Last Archive,

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<v Speaker 2>the show about how we know what we know and

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<v Speaker 2>why sometimes it seems lately as if we don't know

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<v Speaker 2>anything at all. Step over the threshold and along the

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<v Speaker 2>passage of time to the year nineteen eighty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't fight it, don't even try. Just surrender yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Surrender yourself that's his mantra, it's not mine. My mantra

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<v Speaker 2>is never surrender. What's the first thing you do when

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<v Speaker 2>you get in the car, Collect the seatbelt, switch on

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<v Speaker 2>the ignition, Turn on the radio. Yeah, find the right station.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's a little there you want there, jingle one gracious Roman.

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<v Speaker 4>Her just say times.

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<v Speaker 2>Carry radios first became common in the nineteen thirties. For

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<v Speaker 2>decades radio was am radio, local stations, maybe with some

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<v Speaker 2>top of the hour news and a lot of sports.

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<v Speaker 8>Baseball.

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<v Speaker 9>You by the first bag of the bank of since

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<v Speaker 9>that or your money grows safely and high return certificates

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<v Speaker 9>of the body.

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<v Speaker 2>Something else that had long been popular on AM radio

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<v Speaker 2>gospel shows.

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<v Speaker 6>The voice of the Hour of Decision, Billy Graham, So

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<v Speaker 6>for you, for the nation, this is the Hour of Decision.

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<v Speaker 2>By the nineteen seventies, the most popular AM radio shows

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<v Speaker 2>were drivetime shows, the ones that aired during your commute.

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<v Speaker 2>Rock and Roll hosted by fast talking djsk.

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<v Speaker 10>Nine oh three and fourteen k on the award winning

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<v Speaker 10>Ye Rock Game.

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<v Speaker 11>Roll Over the show with Bunny and Product for all

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<v Speaker 11>some of you, no doubts, no wondering, one award.

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<v Speaker 5>I have won.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll tell you not out of the Marconia Warren More

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<v Speaker 7>Textlent Rock Kennery, that.

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<v Speaker 2>Young Boogaroo, that's the young Rush Limbaugh. Jeff Christy, this

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<v Speaker 2>is non to radio backs in.

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<v Speaker 4>Boy, congratulate our name and acclaiment winners.

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<v Speaker 7>Jeff round With of Eastmont.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll tell you, Jem I will think you twelve six

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<v Speaker 5>packs of Carefree sugarlist gun to get to it all day.

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<v Speaker 2>Limbaugh was born in Missouri. He went to Southeast Missouri

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<v Speaker 2>State University for a year, but dropped out to work

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<v Speaker 2>in radio. In nineteen seventy one, he got a job

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<v Speaker 2>as a disc jockey at an AM station outside Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 2>He got fired after a year and a half and

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<v Speaker 2>went to a station called.

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<v Speaker 7>Kqv And that one time made the twelve more entries

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<v Speaker 7>for you in the Camfree Rock Concert contrast.

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<v Speaker 5>You and Jack Box for Tomorrow is.

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<v Speaker 7>Two hundred and forty dollars and fourteen sent the lot

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<v Speaker 7>of guys that you can remember it. Bob deccannell makes

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<v Speaker 7>the next.

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<v Speaker 5>Call the one.

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<v Speaker 2>Limbaugh died in twenty twenty one at the age of seventy.

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<v Speaker 2>His obituaries head headlines like We're living in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Rush Limbaugh created and that's true. But even though you

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<v Speaker 2>may think you know all the ways we now live

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<v Speaker 2>in Rush Limbaugh's world, there's more to understand. It has

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<v Speaker 2>to do with what a lot of this season has

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<v Speaker 2>been exploring how we hear voices on the radio. There

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<v Speaker 2>were lots of testimonials to Limbo after he died, but

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<v Speaker 2>one comment really stuck with me. A guy wrote on

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube his show was the only one that came in clearly.

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<v Speaker 4>So I listened.

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<v Speaker 7>People are thinking of a Jefferson Startist show.

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<v Speaker 5>Work of way details them.

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<v Speaker 2>Limbaugh even when he was Jeff Christi. He was a

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<v Speaker 2>big guy, wide grin waved his hands a lot, big personality,

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<v Speaker 2>a little George Costanza meets Fred Flinstone. In nineteen seventy four,

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<v Speaker 2>he lost yet another job. He moved back home with

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<v Speaker 2>his parents in Missouri. He was twenty three. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a very tough time to try to make a career

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<v Speaker 2>in AM radio, mainly because FM radio was on the rise.

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<v Speaker 5>FM radio a fight free static three FM or FM

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<v Speaker 5>stereo car radio. Child Survey It's out of silent day.

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<v Speaker 2>Starting in the nineteen fifties, the era of Elvis the

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<v Speaker 2>Little Richard, people bought FM radios for their houses. But

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<v Speaker 2>the FMI I only really exploded in the nineteen seventies, when,

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<v Speaker 2>for the first time, you could get FM in your car.

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<v Speaker 2>At this point, AM radio was mono, just one track.

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<v Speaker 2>FM was stereo. It was immersive. Naturally, everyone wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>switch from plain old mono to stereo. He'd bring your

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<v Speaker 2>car into the shop and switch out your AM radio

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<v Speaker 2>for an FM radio with stereo speakers. Seem this change

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<v Speaker 2>in the sound of radio from AM to FM would

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<v Speaker 2>have vast repercussions for the history of knowledge. A very

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<v Speaker 2>long reverb, AM radio suffered, listenership plummeted, and then so

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<v Speaker 2>did AD revenue. By nineteen eighty seven, the majority of

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<v Speaker 2>AM radio stations were no longer making a profit, and

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<v Speaker 2>people who worked at AM radio stations in the nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>seventies were losing their jobs, including in Kansas City, where Limbaugh,

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<v Speaker 2>who'd been moving from job to job had landed.

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<v Speaker 12>All the DJs got fired.

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<v Speaker 11>I was spared as assistant program director, and you know

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<v Speaker 11>what that meant, programming the automation machine.

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<v Speaker 2>Limba didn't last long as an assistant program director. He

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<v Speaker 2>took a job instead with the Kansas City Royals baseball team. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>AM radio stations were beginning to figure out that if

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<v Speaker 2>they could leave music to the FM band and concentrate

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<v Speaker 2>on talk shows, they could start making money again. In

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<v Speaker 2>mono talk sounds fine, even if you might not agree

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<v Speaker 2>with what someone's saying.

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<v Speaker 7>The simple fact matter is that the homeless advocacy in

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<v Speaker 7>this country is, I think, based upon fraud.

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<v Speaker 2>In nineteen eighty four, broadcasting under his own name, Limbaugh

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<v Speaker 2>started a new kind of talk radio show in Sacramento

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<v Speaker 2>on KFBK. He pretty much invented a whole new format.

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<v Speaker 2>Soon he had a deal for national syndication.

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<v Speaker 4>The opinions expressed on the Rush Limbaugh program did not

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<v Speaker 4>necessarily reflect those of WABC Radio or its management, and

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<v Speaker 4>now here's Rush Limbaugh.

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<v Speaker 7>Either way. That's a Gutlass disclaimer. The view is expressed

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<v Speaker 7>by the host of this show ought to become federal

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<v Speaker 7>law in the station and sponsors all who heartily endorse them.

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<v Speaker 2>The Rush Limbaugh Show was a one way wall of talk.

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<v Speaker 2>Limbaugh was funny, he was angry. His program started with

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<v Speaker 2>a news digest, then a series of opinions mixed with

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<v Speaker 2>calls from listeners who agreed with those opinions. Year's voice now,

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<v Speaker 2>and it sounds so utterly familiar. That's because it's the

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<v Speaker 2>voice of the political YouTuber, or of a certain sort

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<v Speaker 2>of podcaster, brash, annoying, know it all. But it was

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<v Speaker 2>a new voice then, and it spoke to listeners for

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<v Speaker 2>three hours a day, five days a week.

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<v Speaker 7>So to give you just a bit of an idea

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<v Speaker 7>about the show, there are no guests never. We don't

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<v Speaker 7>talk about single issues or themes unless they evolve as

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<v Speaker 7>the program goes. It is pretty much an open line

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<v Speaker 7>discussion each and every day.

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<v Speaker 2>Limba revolutionized radio open line. It was all him, even

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<v Speaker 2>some of the ads. At a time when human resources

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<v Speaker 2>departments were newly requiring sexual harassment training, Limbaugh spent a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of his time on air attacking feminists, especially after

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<v Speaker 2>Anita Hill accused Supreme Court nominee Clarence Thomas of sexual harassment.

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<v Speaker 2>Limba made a fake ad about Feminazi trading cards. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>give you two glorious nyems for an Anita Hell.

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<v Speaker 1>Trading cards have always been for males only.

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<v Speaker 9>It's just not fair, It's not right. Damn I spilt

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<v Speaker 9>ill past my Betty freedan.

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<v Speaker 1>Feminazi cards are designed with a woman in mind.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll up front, I remember in those years my dad

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<v Speaker 2>listening to Limba, who drove my mother nuts. I bet

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of families had an experience like that. Limba.

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<v Speaker 2>He'd say it seemed anything, so partly people tuned in

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<v Speaker 2>for the thrill of it, to hear what he'd say next.

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<v Speaker 2>For the rest of us, though, it was like getting

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<v Speaker 2>kicked in the face every day. He went after feminists,

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<v Speaker 2>He liked to mock environmentalists, gays and lesbians. He made

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of jokes about aides. Despite or really because

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<v Speaker 2>of all that, Limbo's audience just grew and grew. Mainly

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<v Speaker 2>that audience was men, white men who were angry. As

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<v Speaker 2>angry as Rush seemed to be real. Wages for white

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<v Speaker 2>men who had gone to college were dropping. They're still dropping.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of these guys really did have a lot to

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<v Speaker 2>be angry about. Rush told them who to be angry at.

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<v Speaker 2>The people who loved Rush. They called themselves dittoheads because

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<v Speaker 2>they believed everything he said and would say it back ditto.

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<v Speaker 2>Limbo's format, the wall of Talk pushed nearly everything else

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<v Speaker 2>off talk radio, all the kooky chit chat and cooking

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<v Speaker 2>shows and carpentry shows and community theater everything. Meanwhile, radio stations,

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<v Speaker 2>which for a long time time had been mom and

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<v Speaker 2>pop operations, were getting bought out by giant, consolidated, national,

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<v Speaker 2>and even global corporations. Here I've got to disclose something

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<v Speaker 2>about that consolidation. The Rush Limbaugh Show was eventually syndicated

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<v Speaker 2>by an outfit called clear Channel. More recently, clear Channel

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<v Speaker 2>rebranded itself as iHeart Media, and an arm of iHeart

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<v Speaker 2>now sells ads for Pushkin Industries, which is the production

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<v Speaker 2>house that makes the last Archive. So this is like

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<v Speaker 2>when the Washington Post reports on Amazon and then has

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<v Speaker 2>to mention that the Post is owned by Jeff Bezos. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>the last Archive is not the Washington Post, and iHeart

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't own Pushkin. But still it's important to disclose these things.

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<v Speaker 2>Limbaugh liked to present himself as a cowboy, a maverick, bold, reckless,

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<v Speaker 2>and unpredictable. In reality, he was more like the Wonderbread

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<v Speaker 2>of radio, the factory made whitebread of radio, who was

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<v Speaker 2>the same every goddamn day, rant, rant, ad rant, rant,

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<v Speaker 2>ad rant, rant, big rant, station break rant. What he

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<v Speaker 2>was selling was his own predictability three hours a day,

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<v Speaker 2>five days a week. But the forces that had to

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<v Speaker 2>do with Limbaugh's success had to do with more than

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<v Speaker 2>just radio formats. For years, Limbaugh's fortunes rose while other

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<v Speaker 2>medias fell. Daily newspapers were going out of business. Limbaugh

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<v Speaker 2>didn't seem to mind.

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<v Speaker 7>If you listened to this show every day, you never

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<v Speaker 7>need to read another newspaper again, never read on a magazine.

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<v Speaker 7>I do it for you, and you get a bonus.

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<v Speaker 7>I tell you what to think about this incredibly complicated

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<v Speaker 7>and controversial issue.

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<v Speaker 2>I tell you what to think. And he wasn't joking.

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<v Speaker 2>Limba presented himself as a prophet liberals and Feminazis, they

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<v Speaker 2>were heretics. Limba was talking politics, but his show was

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<v Speaker 2>less like a news program than like those old radio

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<v Speaker 2>gospel shows. Politics as preaching, listening as worship, conservatism as

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<v Speaker 2>a new religion. Scholars call this called sectarianism, and in

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<v Speaker 2>this era, sectarianism was headed to Washington.

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<v Speaker 12>At gopack, our mission is to gain control of the

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<v Speaker 12>US House of Representatives.

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<v Speaker 13>We're developing a farm team of future congressional candidates.

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<v Speaker 2>That's audio from what's known as a go Pack tape,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the thousands of tapes made by a GOP

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<v Speaker 2>political action committee that had become the mouthpiece for just

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<v Speaker 2>one man.

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<v Speaker 13>This is Congress and Nude Gingrich. As a candidate, you've

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<v Speaker 13>probably been listening to tapes from gopack all year, and

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<v Speaker 13>you know that we've emphasized certain basic ideas and certain

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<v Speaker 13>basic approaches.

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<v Speaker 2>Newt Gingrich, then a congressman from Georgia. Gingrich heard what

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<v Speaker 2>Limbaugh was doing on air, and in the late nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighties started to record his own version of that format

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<v Speaker 2>through these go pack cassette tapes. If you were a

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<v Speaker 2>Republican running for office or working on a campaign, you'd

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<v Speaker 2>probably listen to these tapes in your car as cassette player.

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<v Speaker 13>In this tape, we have a speech I gave to

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<v Speaker 13>the Republicans in California. We decided to share with you

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<v Speaker 13>as an example of how you can bring all the

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<v Speaker 13>basic values together.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the sound of modern political history, shifting gears

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<v Speaker 2>and burning out the clutch. The tapes were mailed to

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<v Speaker 2>thousands of people every month. One Republican from Minnesota told

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<v Speaker 2>PBS's Frontline how crucial they were when.

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<v Speaker 1>They would come.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, and you spent some time in a car,

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<v Speaker 7>particularly going back and forth to the state legislature.

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<v Speaker 9>When they would come in the mail.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean I would open them up right away, and

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<v Speaker 7>I would put them in a cassette player within twenty

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<v Speaker 7>four hours.

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<v Speaker 2>The purpose of the tapes was to create a single

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<v Speaker 2>national message for a conservative insurgency, to make newt dittoheads.

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<v Speaker 13>There are two movements in America. There's a left wing

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<v Speaker 13>radical movement, and there's a common sense, practical, center right majority,

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<v Speaker 13>the basic conservatives. Let me give you an example of

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<v Speaker 13>how we think you can draw those lines.

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<v Speaker 2>Gingrich proposed a set of dualisms for candidates to use

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<v Speaker 2>in ads. You might think this kind of hyper polarized

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<v Speaker 2>rhetoric is more recent, a product of social media, maybe,

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<v Speaker 2>but you'd be wrong.

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<v Speaker 13>We believe in locking up criminals, especially dangerous criminals, but

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<v Speaker 13>allowing honest citizens stone guns. The radical left introduced to

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<v Speaker 13>build a legalize sex with animals, but we oppose legal

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<v Speaker 13>sex with animals. In fact, frankly, we oppose any kind

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<v Speaker 13>of sex with animals.

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<v Speaker 2>In the early nineteen nineties, and a memo sent out

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<v Speaker 2>with the tapes, go Back supplied candidates with a vocabulary list.

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<v Speaker 2>It suggested words to use to help define your campaign change, opportunity, legacy, challenge, control, truth.

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<v Speaker 4>Moral, courage, reform, prosperity, crusade, movement, children, family, debate, compete, humane, pristine, provide, liberty, commitment, duty, fair, protect, confident, incentive,

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<v Speaker 4>hard work, initiative, common sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Go Peck also listed words to use to describe your

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<v Speaker 2>political opponents, words like sick, pathetic, liberal.

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<v Speaker 4>Lie, shallow, traders, sensationalists, in danger, coercion, hypocrisy, radical, threatened, devour, waste, corruption, incompetent, permissive, attitude, destructive, impose,

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<v Speaker 4>self serving, greed, sheet steel, abuse of power, obsolete.

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<v Speaker 2>This was political warfare on all fronts. Gingrich trained the officers,

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<v Speaker 2>Limbaugh rallied the troops. Gingrich's political power grew, and so

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<v Speaker 2>did Limbaugh's audience to round fifteen million listeners each week.

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<v Speaker 2>In nineteen ninety one, Limba appeared on CBS's sixty Minutes.

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<v Speaker 4>What are you trying to do with this show?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm trying to attract the largest audience I can and

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<v Speaker 7>hold it for as long as I can so that

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<v Speaker 7>I can charge advertisers confiscatory advertiser rates. This is a business.

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<v Speaker 11>You're in it for the money.

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<v Speaker 7>Sure, of course, I'm doing a lot of this for money.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Limbaugh earning points for being honest. It's also a tactic.

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump would adopt honesty about loving money. Listeners adored it.

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<v Speaker 2>For talk radio, the money came rolling in, and not

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<v Speaker 2>just for Limbaugh. Between nineteen eighty nine and nineteen ninety four,

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<v Speaker 2>an average of twenty new talk radio stations went into

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<v Speaker 2>business every month. Their shows weren't all conservative, at least

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<v Speaker 2>not at first, but soon station owners discovered that if

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<v Speaker 2>they ran only conservative talk, they had more listeners.

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<v Speaker 14>No sports, no back, no information for mindless shatter your station.

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<v Speaker 4>Kay BBL Talk Radio on Alice Springfield's papered conservative and

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<v Speaker 4>author of the well selling book Only Turkeys Have Left Wings,

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<v Speaker 4>Ladies and Gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 8>Birch Barlow.

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<v Speaker 2>You know you're in the zeitgeist when you're satirized on

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<v Speaker 2>the Simpsons.

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<v Speaker 7>Good morning, fellow freedomlikers, Birch Barlow, the fourth branch of government,

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<v Speaker 7>the fifty first State.

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<v Speaker 2>The more famous Limbaugh got, the more worried observers got,

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<v Speaker 2>especially about how he talked about talk, how he talked

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<v Speaker 2>about the freedom of speech, how he talked about fairness itself.

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<v Speaker 7>This is also a benevolent dictatorship. I am the dictator.

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<v Speaker 7>There is no First Amendment here except for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, right, the First Amendment only constrains the government, not

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<v Speaker 2>a privately owned radio station. But for most of the

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<v Speaker 2>twentieth century there'd been some rules in place, rules that

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<v Speaker 2>date to a time when people understood just how dangerous

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<v Speaker 2>radio could be if broadcasters became dictators. In the nineteen forties,

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<v Speaker 2>a guy named Clifford Dirr got a job offer from

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<v Speaker 2>President Roosevelt. Derr was a lawyer from Alabama. He's best

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<v Speaker 2>known to history for something he did much later in

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen fifty when he and his wife bailed Rosa

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<v Speaker 2>Parks out of jail. Anyway, in nineteen forty one, FDR

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<v Speaker 2>appointed Dr to the Federal Communications Commission, the FCC, and

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<v Speaker 2>I said, what was that? The FCC is the federal

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<v Speaker 2>agency that regulates who can get broadcast licenses to use

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<v Speaker 2>the airwaves, which after all, belonged to the public.

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<v Speaker 6>When I went on to the FCAC, I knew absolutely

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<v Speaker 6>nothing about it. But at the time, we will monitor

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<v Speaker 6>all the access broadcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I did an episode earlier this season called The Inner Front.

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<v Speaker 2>It talks about how the US government monitored Radio Berlin

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<v Speaker 2>and Radio Tokyo. That was part of the FCC's job

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<v Speaker 2>during the Second World War, but the content of those

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<v Speaker 2>enemy broadcasts really changed how Durer and the FCC thought

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<v Speaker 2>about the power of radio.

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<v Speaker 6>My god, this is a terrific medium. The other can

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<v Speaker 6>be magnificent. I can completely ruin you if you've got

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<v Speaker 6>this thing in the wrong hands. So then Adam again

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<v Speaker 6>to take a more place to look at an American broadcast.

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<v Speaker 2>The FCC started enforcing some rules that were on the

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<v Speaker 2>books but that have been mostly ignored, and Der's influence

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<v Speaker 2>would lead to a new rule that would shape broadcasting

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<v Speaker 2>for the next half century. In nineteen forty nine, the

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<v Speaker 2>FCC established what became known as the Fairness doctrine.

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<v Speaker 9>Under the American system of broadcasting, the individual licensees of

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<v Speaker 9>radio stations have the responsibility for determining the specific program

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<v Speaker 9>material to be broadcast over their stations.

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<v Speaker 2>So you could broadcast whatever you wanted.

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<v Speaker 9>Except This choice, however, must be exercised in a manner

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<v Speaker 9>consistent with the basic policy of the Congress that radio

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<v Speaker 9>be maintained as a medium of free speech for the

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<v Speaker 9>general public as a whole, rather than as an outlet

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<v Speaker 9>for the purely personal or private interests of the licensee.

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<v Speaker 2>The fairness doctrine is about the public interest. It says

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<v Speaker 2>the government has an interest in what radio is dinations broadcast.

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<v Speaker 2>It says that on the issues of the day, radio

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<v Speaker 2>stations have to broadcast more than one view.

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<v Speaker 9>This requires that licensees devote a reasonable percentage of their

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<v Speaker 9>broadcast time to the discussion of public issues of interest

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<v Speaker 9>in the community served by their stations, and that such

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<v Speaker 9>programs be designed so that the public has a reasonable

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<v Speaker 9>opportunity to hear different opposition positions.

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<v Speaker 2>In the nineteen sixties, the fairness doctrine was strengthened by

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<v Speaker 2>way of congressional action, and the Johnson administration added a

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<v Speaker 2>guarantee for a right of reply after a criticism during

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<v Speaker 2>a broadcast. It wasn't often enforced, but it did happen sometimes,

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<v Speaker 2>like when Medgar Evers once got seventeen minutes of airtime

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<v Speaker 2>to respond to criticism of the NAACP, or once when

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<v Speaker 2>conservatives attacked Kennedy's proposed nuclear test ban treaty, stations were

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<v Speaker 2>required to play a pro test ban speech by the

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<v Speaker 2>president himself. This was exact bactly the kind of thing

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<v Speaker 2>that ticked conservatives off. Rules that required listeners to hear

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<v Speaker 2>more from Edgar Evers hear more from President Kennedy.

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<v Speaker 6>All mankind has been struggling to escape from the dockning

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<v Speaker 6>prospect of mash destruction on Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>In nineteen sixty nine, the Supreme Court affirmed much of

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<v Speaker 2>the Fairness Doctrine, but conservatives are getting more and more

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<v Speaker 2>peeved about it, believing that the Fairness Doctrine suppressed conservative views.

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<v Speaker 2>By the nineteen eighties, they really wanted to get rid

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<v Speaker 2>of it, and it was vulnerable because it was a regulation,

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<v Speaker 2>not a law. In nineteen eighty five, a new FCC

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<v Speaker 2>head appointed by President Reagan said he would fight to

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<v Speaker 2>end the Fairness Doctrine. Two years later, in a bipartisan vote,

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<v Speaker 2>Congress passed a bill that would have established the doctrine

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<v Speaker 2>as law, but Reagan vetoed it and Congress didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>the votes to override his veto. The doctrine was.

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<v Speaker 9>Dead, and now here's Russe Limbaugh.

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<v Speaker 2>Limbaugh could not have operated if the Fairness Doctrine had

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<v Speaker 2>still been in place, at least not without worrying that

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<v Speaker 2>the FCC might come after him because he used his

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<v Speaker 2>airtime to promote partisanship. In fact, he was more than

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<v Speaker 2>a partisan. Limbaugh wanted to be a king Maker. In

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety two, after his preferred candidate, Pat Buchanan failed

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<v Speaker 2>to win the nomination, Limbaugh stumped for George Bush, Senior.

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<v Speaker 2>But when Bush lost to Bill Clinton, Limbaugh sounded a

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<v Speaker 2>battle cry. He made it his mission to take down

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<v Speaker 2>the Clintons, both of them.

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<v Speaker 7>The Clintons are running around on this national tour. Now,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, I don't know how else to say this.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, the president gets away when he says something

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<v Speaker 7>it isn't true later being told about, Oh yeah, I

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<v Speaker 7>was an inadvertent statement. The motto of this administration every

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<v Speaker 7>day is what can we do to fool him? Today?

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Clinton, for sure did sometimes lie, no question, but

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<v Speaker 2>fooling people was not the motto of his administration. Clinton

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<v Speaker 2>got exasperated. You can hear him on Saint Louis AM

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<v Speaker 2>Radio practically begging for a rite of reply.

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<v Speaker 5>After I get off the radio today with you, Rush Limbaugh,

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<v Speaker 5>I'll have three hours to say whatever he wants, and

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<v Speaker 5>I won't have any opportunity to respond. And there's no

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<v Speaker 5>truth detector. You won't get on afterwards and say what

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<v Speaker 5>was true and what was.

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<v Speaker 2>In nineteen ninety three, Democrats in Congress tried to bring

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<v Speaker 2>back the fairness doctrine. Limbaugh like to call their effort

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<v Speaker 2>the hush rush Bill, but other people on talk radio

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<v Speaker 2>didn't see.

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<v Speaker 5>It that way.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm a proponent of the fairness doctrine.

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<v Speaker 2>That's longtime radio and television host Larry King in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>ninety three.

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<v Speaker 5>I like it.

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<v Speaker 12>I like the fact that we as broadcasters have to

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<v Speaker 12>be fair. It is not out to get any broadcast.

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<v Speaker 12>I know Rush Limbaugh thinks they're out to get them.

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<v Speaker 12>All it means is that a station who has if

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<v Speaker 12>you have eight right wing hosts, you better put some

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<v Speaker 12>left wing hosts on.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's wrong with that.

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<v Speaker 2>But the fairness doctrine was not reinstated, and in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>ninety four, in the midterm elections, Republicans flipped the Senate

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<v Speaker 2>and the House. It was a wipeout. They took ten governorships,

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<v Speaker 2>they won state legislatures if they elected Newt Gingrich Speaker

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<v Speaker 2>of the House. The freshman Republicans in the House named

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<v Speaker 2>Rush Limbaugh an honorary member of their class, and he

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<v Speaker 2>went to Capitol Hill where he was besieged by reporters

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<v Speaker 2>asking him how talk radio had led the Conservatives to victory.

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<v Speaker 7>These reporters who asked me questions about talk radio were

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<v Speaker 7>all trying to say, in a roundabout way, that I

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<v Speaker 7>took a bunch of brainless people and converted them to

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<v Speaker 7>mind numbed robots, and every day would send out code

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<v Speaker 7>in my show that would force them to march to

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<v Speaker 7>the polls on November the eighth of the poll the

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<v Speaker 7>lever I wanted them to poll.

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<v Speaker 2>Listening to Limbaugh's speech to the freshman Republican members of

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<v Speaker 2>the House, you can hear them giggling as Limbaugh turned

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<v Speaker 2>to a new topic, reports of secret meetings that Built

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<v Speaker 2>and Hillary Clinton were holding in the White House about me.

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<v Speaker 7>They're trying to come up with a liberal version of me.

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<v Speaker 8>They're scouring America looking for some liberal.

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<v Speaker 7>Host who can automatically end up on six hundred and

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<v Speaker 7>sixty radio stations.

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<v Speaker 5>They think that they can.

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<v Speaker 7>Just pluck some liberal out of the sky and put

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<v Speaker 7>him on the radio and create a bunch of liberal

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<v Speaker 7>mind numb robots.

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<v Speaker 2>Point taken Limbo's listeners, any listeners weren't mind numb robots.

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<v Speaker 2>But remember he asked his listeners to surrender to his

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<v Speaker 2>point of view, and millions of them did just that

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<v Speaker 2>you might not like the fairness doctrine. You might want

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<v Speaker 2>some other sort of guidelines or mechanisms in place, you

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<v Speaker 2>might want none at all. But whatever your view, you

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<v Speaker 2>still got to wrestle with this fact. A democracy can't

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<v Speaker 2>really work if people only listen to one kind of

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<v Speaker 2>political opinion all day, every day. Limbo was right about

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<v Speaker 2>one thing, though, in this era with the fairness doctrine dead,

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<v Speaker 2>some people really were looking for a liberal version of him,

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<v Speaker 2>not someone who would hush Rush, someone who would crush Rush.

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<v Speaker 15>Hen you welcome me out, Franken, show, I'm out, Franken.

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<v Speaker 2>The left answer to Rush Limba would be for a while,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy, Alan Stuart Franken, a comedian best known at

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<v Speaker 2>the time for his work on Saturday Night Live. Franken

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<v Speaker 2>had written a book called Rush Limbo Is a Big,

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<v Speaker 2>Fat Idiot and Other Observations. He came out in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>ninety six. The audiobook version gives you an idea of

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<v Speaker 2>Franken's vibe at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought the title, aside from the obvious advantage of

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<v Speaker 3>being personally offensive to Limbaugh, would sell books. Let me

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<v Speaker 3>explain why it makes fun of Rush Limbaugh by pointing

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<v Speaker 3>out that he's a big lard butt.

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<v Speaker 2>Franken told c SPAN he wanted to be Limbaugh's kryptonite.

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<v Speaker 10>If Rush Limbaugh were to write a book about you,

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<v Speaker 10>what would its title be?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, The guy who got me, the guy who held

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<v Speaker 3>me accountable, the guy who my ass.

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<v Speaker 2>Franken owned his comedy style deadpan, a bit obnoxious, part

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<v Speaker 2>smart alec, part frat boy. Here he is talking to

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<v Speaker 2>an audience of college students.

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<v Speaker 3>What I do is in propaganda.

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<v Speaker 16>What I do is taking what they say and using

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<v Speaker 16>it against them.

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<v Speaker 3>What I do is jiu jitsu.

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<v Speaker 16>They say something ridiculous and then I subject them to

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<v Speaker 16>scorn and ridicule.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my job.

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<v Speaker 2>Franken had a lot in common with Limbaugh. They were

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<v Speaker 2>both born in nineteen fifty one. They're both from the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the country. Limba's from Missouri, Franken grew up

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<v Speaker 2>in Minnesota. They both love to perform. Then there are

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<v Speaker 2>the differences. Limbaugh dropped out of college, Franken graduated from Harvard.

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<v Speaker 2>The same year that Franken published Rush Limbaugh as a

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<v Speaker 2>Big fat Idiot, a new cable television network started up,

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<v Speaker 2>Fox News. Its motto was fair and balanced. This was

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<v Speaker 2>the cable TV version of stuff that Limbaugh and Gingrich

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<v Speaker 2>had pioneered. Really, you can put everything on early Fox

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<v Speaker 2>News into one of two bins that first labeled Limbaugh,

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<v Speaker 2>the second labeled Gingridge. The courser stuff Limba, the more

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<v Speaker 2>professory stuff Gingridge. But it was all the same in

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<v Speaker 2>the end, lots of opinion monologues getting viewers to distrust

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<v Speaker 2>other sources of information, rewriting American history. Meanwhile, talk radio

0:32:43.595 --> 0:32:47.915
<v Speaker 2>was getting harsher, meaner, more vulgar. Limba did a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of schoolyard name calling. He called MSNBC PMSNBC. He called

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<v Speaker 2>US News and World Report, US News, Meet the Press,

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<v Speaker 2>meet the depressed. Things got darker in nineteen ninety eight,

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<v Speaker 2>when the Monica Lewinsky scandal drove ratings through the roof,

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<v Speaker 2>both for Fox News and for Talk radio.

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<v Speaker 9>Bill Clinton got call Stumpen.

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<v Speaker 11>Legan turn Monica Lewinsky the blue stain dress.

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<v Speaker 2>All this time, and especially after nine to eleven, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of liberals were still wishing there was a liberal Limbaugh,

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<v Speaker 2>so they started a new radio network called Air America.

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<v Speaker 2>Air America would launch all kinds of careers, including Rachel

0:33:34.315 --> 0:33:39.955
<v Speaker 2>Maddows before joining MSNBC. She had her own Air America show. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>Franken came to Air America from the USO. He'd been

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<v Speaker 2>going on tours entertaining the troops overseas Bob Hopestyle. He

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<v Speaker 2>saw that work as a chance to show that right

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<v Speaker 2>wingers didn't have a monopoly on patriotism. Franken, like all

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<v Speaker 2>of Air America, had the idea that left wing radio

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<v Speaker 2>would offer listeners the opposition positions that the fairness doctrine

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<v Speaker 2>would have required if it had still been in place,

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<v Speaker 2>though he didn't put it in such lofty terms.

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<v Speaker 15>It's about.

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<v Speaker 16>Answering these fuckheads that have been on the air and

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<v Speaker 16>lion and delivering this simplistic, black and white babble about

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<v Speaker 16>how the world works, as if they know something, and

0:34:23.555 --> 0:34:34.275
<v Speaker 16>they have built this infrastructure of feeding people misinformation about

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<v Speaker 16>economic justice and about how our society is run. And

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<v Speaker 16>it's about time that somebody fought back.

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<v Speaker 17>Talk to me, talk about the right wing.

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<v Speaker 3>Dis honesty.

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<v Speaker 2>Franklin launched his own Air America radio show in two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and four. He delivered something surprising, an old fashioned

0:35:03.955 --> 0:35:07.035
<v Speaker 2>variety show sort of Marx Brothers but about politics with

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<v Speaker 2>lots of skits.

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<v Speaker 17>Show is brought to you by the Union of Jewish Archaeologists.

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<v Speaker 1>We look at fossils of arightly Man and asked, was.

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<v Speaker 8>This a Jew?

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<v Speaker 2>What else Franken was doing was different from anything else

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<v Speaker 2>on the air, mostly though it was different from the

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<v Speaker 2>Rush Limbaugh Show. Everything about Franken Show was designed in

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<v Speaker 2>opposition to Limbaugh's show. Unlike Limbaugh, who only had guests occasionally,

0:35:35.435 --> 0:35:39.755
<v Speaker 2>Franken Show featured them, and unlike Limbaugh, Franken invited calls

0:35:39.795 --> 0:35:43.235
<v Speaker 2>from people who disagreed with him. When Franken did monologues,

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<v Speaker 2>he often got serious.

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<v Speaker 17>In the early sixties, We'd watch TV. We watched the news,

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<v Speaker 17>maryor TV trays in there, watched the news. We'd see

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<v Speaker 17>southern sheriff's sicken police dogs on black demonstrators.

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<v Speaker 14>Made that so that no Jew can be for that.

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<v Speaker 2>The most important part of Franken Show came when he

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<v Speaker 2>fact checked the Rush Limbaugh Show.

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<v Speaker 17>How many people listened to him Fifteen to twenty million, right, right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 17>so those people believe him, right, yeah, Okay, so most

0:36:12.275 --> 0:36:15.315
<v Speaker 17>of his listeners believe is seventy five percent people making

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<v Speaker 17>minimum wage are teenagers in their first job. I had

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<v Speaker 17>our staff look at up sixty one point one percent

0:36:23.315 --> 0:36:25.995
<v Speaker 17>of people earning minimum wage are twenty or over. You know,

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<v Speaker 17>we got our statistics from the Bureau of Labor Statistics,

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<v Speaker 17>and he got it from the Bureau of Limbaugh's butt.

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<v Speaker 2>Frankn put on a good show, but Air America turned

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<v Speaker 2>out to be a disaster. The company was underfunded, badly run,

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<v Speaker 2>beset by financial mismanagement and scandal. Also, the audience for

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<v Speaker 2>Al Franken's show never got above a million and a

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<v Speaker 2>half weekly listeners, just a tiny fraction of the audience

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<v Speaker 2>of the Rush Limbaugh Show. There are lots of theories

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<v Speaker 2>about why left wing radio failed. One of them is

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<v Speaker 2>that liberals would rather listen to something more thoughtful and

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<v Speaker 2>temperate like NPR. But then again, liberals flocked to Comedy Central,

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<v Speaker 2>where John Stewart's Daily Show and the Colbert Rupport were

0:37:06.595 --> 0:37:08.915
<v Speaker 2>very much in the mold of Air America. So I

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<v Speaker 2>tend to think the was the company. Franken jumped ship

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<v Speaker 2>before the ship sank. In two thousand and seven, he

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<v Speaker 2>went off the air and announced his run for a

0:37:18.915 --> 0:37:22.075
<v Speaker 2>Senate seat from Minnesota. Two thousand and eight was a

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<v Speaker 2>wild election year. Barack Obama was seeking the Democratic nomination,

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<v Speaker 2>and after he defeated Hillary Clinton, he made his historic

0:37:31.115 --> 0:37:35.275
<v Speaker 2>bid for the presidency. Rush Limbaugh turned the fire hose

0:37:35.315 --> 0:37:38.715
<v Speaker 2>of his fury from the Clintons to the Obamas. He

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<v Speaker 2>played on air a song called Barack the Magic Negro.

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<v Speaker 2>Obama decided to let that pass, which is likely why

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<v Speaker 2>you've never heard of it. Obama won in something close

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<v Speaker 2>to a landslide, and Al Franken became the new Senator

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<v Speaker 2>from Minnesota. In office, Franken's comedic personality evaporated. He was

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<v Speaker 2>mostly known for being pretty reasonable, quiet, and hard working.

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<v Speaker 15>In addition to providing some budgetary certainty for the next

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<v Speaker 15>two years, the budget deal on the some of the

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<v Speaker 15>extreme across the board cuts of the sequester that will

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<v Speaker 15>enable us to make more.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty fourteen, Franken won reelection to the Senate. He

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<v Speaker 2>was sort of a non story. Meanwhile, rush Limbaugh's tirades

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<v Speaker 2>grew louder and louder all through Obama's two terms in office.

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<v Speaker 2>Limbaugh urged obstructionism, the rejection of all compromise. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 7>Let's say, as conservatives, liberals demand that we be bipartisan

0:38:46.675 --> 0:38:50.715
<v Speaker 7>with them in Congress. What they mean is we check

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<v Speaker 7>our core principles at the door. Come and let them

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<v Speaker 7>run the show, and then agree with them. That's my

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<v Speaker 7>partnership to them.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I've got to stop the tape. I am so

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<v Speaker 2>sick of this. Hel Franken, when he was writing that

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<v Speaker 2>book about Limbaugh, said it took a real toll on

0:39:03.835 --> 0:39:05.675
<v Speaker 2>him to have to listen to this guy all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel that it's like reading hate mail. To be honest,

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<v Speaker 2>I find listening to Al Franken pretty grading too. But

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<v Speaker 2>when you're researching historical development, you don't choose the evidence

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<v Speaker 2>you enjoy. Your job is to listen to all of it.

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<v Speaker 7>To us, bipartisanship is them being forced to agree with

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<v Speaker 7>us after we have politically cleaned their clocks and beaten them.

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<v Speaker 1>And that has to be what you're focused on.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty sixteen, Hillary Clinton was running for president against

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<v Speaker 2>a new.

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<v Speaker 8>Opponent, politicians are all talk.

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<v Speaker 6>And no action.

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<v Speaker 2>That year, Al Franken spoke at the Democratic Convention, still

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<v Speaker 2>fighting the far right.

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<v Speaker 18>I'm Al frankan Minnesota senator and world renowned expert on

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<v Speaker 18>right wing megalomaniacs, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly and now Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was the right genealogy, Limbaugh made Trump possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's whole I alone can fix it. Thing that was

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<v Speaker 2>straight Limbaugh. The style of followership that Limbaugh cultivated, those

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<v Speaker 2>dittoheads that became trump Ism, those schoolyard insults straight Limbaugh.

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<v Speaker 2>All this led the political outsider Trump to an unexpected victory.

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<v Speaker 2>But long after Trump won, Limbaugh remained fixated on the

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<v Speaker 2>outgoing president.

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<v Speaker 11>The first moment that Trump does anything that is the

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<v Speaker 11>unraveling of an Obama agenda item.

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<v Speaker 1>Obama's going to be on TV. Hey, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I won't go on TV.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm glad you'd exclue.

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<v Speaker 10>TMP about destroy Obama.

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<v Speaker 14>Ker.

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<v Speaker 2>I find Limbaugh's prediction super revealing because of how wrong

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<v Speaker 2>it was, Because, of course, Obama did not go on

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<v Speaker 2>television and damn Trump's every move. Instead, Obama kept quiet

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<v Speaker 2>for pretty much all four years of Trump's administration. Obama

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<v Speaker 2>played by old school rules. The ex president steps out

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<v Speaker 2>of politics, the rules that every other American president of

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<v Speaker 2>whatever party had played by from the beginning. Limba, though,

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<v Speaker 2>seemed no longer able to imagine that anyone still played

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<v Speaker 2>by rules. Twenty first century political warfare is a battle

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<v Speaker 2>for truth. People like to say, but more and more.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it has been a battle about doubt. Believe

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<v Speaker 2>only me, doubt everyone else. Rush Limbaugh said he was

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<v Speaker 2>the voice of America. L Franken tried to fact check him.

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<v Speaker 2>Then Donald Trump said he was the voice of America,

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<v Speaker 2>and then all hell broke loose.

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<v Speaker 1>I can do anything whatever you want, grab them by them,

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<v Speaker 1>I can do any of them.

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<v Speaker 2>After the Access Hollywood tape came out just before the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty sixteen election, Trump said it was just locker room talk.

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<v Speaker 16>I've been in a lot of locker rooms.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Al Franken on Late Night with Seth Myers.

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<v Speaker 16>I you know, I belong with a health club OA

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<v Speaker 16>in Minneapolis.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you can tell.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, we can tell.

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<v Speaker 14>And our locker room banter is stuff like is Trump crazy?

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<v Speaker 2>In the end, though, one politician who would be brought

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<v Speaker 2>down for trump sins would be Al Franken. In twenty seventeen,

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<v Speaker 2>a conservative talk radio host named Leeann Tweeden went on

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<v Speaker 2>the air at KABC in Los Angeles with a bombshell.

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<v Speaker 9>Who is your abuser?

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<v Speaker 19>Senator Al Franken. It was in two thousand and six

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<v Speaker 19>we were going on a USO tour. He gave me

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<v Speaker 19>the script, and you know, it was full of sexual

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<v Speaker 19>innu windows and it was supposed to be funny, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Tweeden told the story of how back in two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and six, she and Franken had been together in Kuwait,

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<v Speaker 2>backstage at a USO tour, rehearsing for the show.

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<v Speaker 19>And he mashes his mouth up against mine and he

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<v Speaker 19>sticks his tongue in my mouth. And as it happens,

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<v Speaker 19>it happens so fast, and he puts his tongue in

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<v Speaker 19>my mouth and his mouth is just wet and slimy.

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<v Speaker 19>I was violated. I was disgusted. That's not what I

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<v Speaker 19>was expecting. All I could think about was that's what

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<v Speaker 19>you wrote that in the script for, so you could

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<v Speaker 19>do that to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, there was a cringey photo.

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<v Speaker 14>A photo has surfaced today showing Tweeting asleep on the

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<v Speaker 14>flight back home, and it reveals Franken groping her.

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<v Speaker 2>Franken apologized sort of vaguely, but then seven other women

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<v Speaker 2>made accusations against him, mostly about unwanted touching. Pressured by

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<v Speaker 2>his Democratic Senate colleagues, Franken resigned. His speech on the

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<v Speaker 2>Senate floor was.

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<v Speaker 14>Bitter, I of all people am aware that there is

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<v Speaker 14>some irony in the fact that I am leaving while

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<v Speaker 14>a man who has bragged on tape about his history

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<v Speaker 14>of sexual assault sits in the Ovoil office.

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<v Speaker 2>When the New Yorkers Jane Mayer reinvestigated the case, Franken

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<v Speaker 2>told her that he regretted resigning. Seven current and former

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<v Speaker 2>senators who urged him to resign said they regretted it too.

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<v Speaker 2>As Mayor told NPR, there were holes in Tweeden's story.

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<v Speaker 10>She had never been subjected to any fact checking. She

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<v Speaker 10>had never produced any corroborators. And I spoke to eight

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<v Speaker 10>people on that USO tour who had no political agenda,

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<v Speaker 10>and most of them were in the military, and they

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<v Speaker 10>were right there and they just didn't she is voice

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<v Speaker 10>she saw it.

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<v Speaker 2>As Mayor pointed out, Leanne Tweeden claimed, Franken wrote the

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<v Speaker 2>controversial skit in two thousand and six for her, but

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, and this is indisputable, he wrote it in

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and three. Other actresses had played that same role,

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<v Speaker 2>but something else was lost in the frenzy around Tweeden's allegations.

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<v Speaker 2>Her employer, KABC is a conservative talk radio station. Tweeden

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<v Speaker 2>is a radio personality in the style of Rush Limbaugh

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<v Speaker 2>and KABC did not reach out to get a comment

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<v Speaker 2>from al Franken about Tweeden's accusations before airing them because

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<v Speaker 2>a right to reply that was a rule that dated

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<v Speaker 2>to the forgotten era of the fairness doctrine. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>saying al Franken is the hero of this story. He's not,

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<v Speaker 2>but he isn't the villain either. Hyper Polarized politics will

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<v Speaker 2>always tend to dualism, good versus evil. The error of

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<v Speaker 2>the left is that it keeps joining this game of

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<v Speaker 2>mayhem instead of restoring the rules. In February of twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 2>during his State of the Union address, Donald Trump awarded

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<v Speaker 2>Rush Limbaugh the nation's highest civilian honor, the Presidential Medal

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<v Speaker 2>of Freedom.

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<v Speaker 8>Here tonight is a special man, be loved by millions

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<v Speaker 8>of Americans who just received a Stage four advanced cancer diagnosis.

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<v Speaker 8>This is not good news. But what is good news

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<v Speaker 8>is that he is the greatest fighter and winner that

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<v Speaker 8>you will ever meet.

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<v Speaker 2>Limbaugh was dying of lung cancer. Al Franken was wandering

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<v Speaker 2>in the political wilderness all that year. Trump and Limbaugh

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<v Speaker 2>kept saying that Democrats were going to steal the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty election. But stealing elections was a go peck golden oldie,

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<v Speaker 2>the two nut Gingrich had played back in nineteen eighty eight.

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<v Speaker 13>They're going to buy a registration, they're going to buy votes,

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<v Speaker 13>they're going to turn out votes, They're going to steal votes.

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<v Speaker 13>They're going to do anything they can.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you have to understand that, stop the steal, Gingrich

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<v Speaker 2>said in nineteen eighty eight, and by twenty twenty he

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<v Speaker 2>was saying it all over again. Two days after the.

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<v Speaker 13>Election, you know, one's to be of any doubt. You

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<v Speaker 13>are watching an effort to steal the presidency, and I says.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden won, but Donald Trump refused to concede. Then

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<v Speaker 2>two months later, on January sixth, the next episode of

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<v Speaker 2>the Last Archive, I'll go paddling down the many ruvers

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<v Speaker 2>of doubt that dumped us into the sea of political catastrophe,

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<v Speaker 2>the day when supporters of a defeated president rioted inside

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<v Speaker 2>the nation's capital. But for now, I'll just say this.

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<v Speaker 2>Against the backdrop of murder and mayhem, some pillars of

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<v Speaker 2>right wing media began to crumble. A corporation that owns

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<v Speaker 2>talk radio stations across the country ordered its hosts to

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<v Speaker 2>stop saying the election was stolen and told them instead

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<v Speaker 2>to induce national calm. Now, Rush Limbaugh, though he was

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<v Speaker 2>having none of it.

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<v Speaker 11>There's a lot of people calling for the end of violence.

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<v Speaker 11>There's a lot of conservatives social media who say that

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<v Speaker 11>any violence or aggression at all is unacceptable, regardless of

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<v Speaker 11>the circumstances. I'm glad Sam Adams, Thomas Paine, the actual

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<v Speaker 11>Tea Party guys the minute Lexington and Conquered didn't feel

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<v Speaker 11>that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Rush Limbaugh died six weeks after that broadcast. The King

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<v Speaker 2>of a m Radio left behind in America more bewildered

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<v Speaker 2>and angry than ever, the nation split by a growing

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<v Speaker 2>canyon of talk with no bridges of meaning. That canyon

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<v Speaker 2>looked like it might just swallow up the oldest democracy

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<v Speaker 2>in the world. The Last Archive is written and hosted

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<v Speaker 2>and Ben Natt of Haffrey. Our editor is Julia Barton

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<v Speaker 2>and our executive producer is Mielbel. Martin Gonzalez is our engineer.

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