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Speaker 3: glad you maated g I merely Louis Scruggs Show brought
Speaker 3: to you by toast to Dak Prescott getting praise from
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers on who do did his Pat McAfee hit.
Speaker 3: He said, Dak's playing the position good. Says he takes
Speaker 3: a lot of because he's a Dallas Cowboys quarterback, but
Speaker 3: he says he's really impressive. Likes the way he's using
Speaker 3: the cadence with the here we go and say he's
Speaker 3: playing playing really good football.
Speaker 2: And I thought that was you know on ESPN.
Speaker 3: I mean, how rare is that to hear somebody get
Speaker 3: up there and actually have good things to say about
Speaker 3: Dak Prescott And of course he didn't come from anybody
Speaker 3: works for the company, comes to somebody who's employee in.
Speaker 2: National Football League courtesy of the New York Jets. Thoughts
Speaker 2: on that I don't know.
Speaker 4: Listen, shout out to Aaron Rodgers for realizing that Mike
Speaker 4: McCarthy has put his fingerprints all over this Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 4: offense and it's starting to look the way that it
Speaker 4: did in Green Bay when they I'm not gonna say that,
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say the word, but ceedee lamb. And
Speaker 4: the connection that they have is similar to what Aaron
Speaker 4: Rodgers has had with his receivers when they've been in
Speaker 4: Green Bay. And Aaron Rodgers sees that, So shout out
Speaker 4: to him, give him some credit. Also, want to get
Speaker 4: some shout out to grind Clark because he he give
Speaker 4: Dak Prescott some prise to you.
Speaker 2: He's unless you gout. You know what I'm saying. He
Speaker 2: know how how to when he.
Speaker 3: Gets despite that club, not the club?
Speaker 2: What club is that?
Speaker 4: I don't know that club? Okay, yeah, well they don't
Speaker 4: have the same founders day. Okay, is that what it is? Okay? Look, man,
Speaker 4: the compliments and the hate you know, few and far
Speaker 4: for Dak, and you know it's about time that he
Speaker 4: got some compliments from his peers based off of the
Speaker 4: kind of season that he's having. I think one it
Speaker 4: was the turnovers. You know, people always know that Dak
Speaker 4: cauld throw the ball, He's gonna the yards are gonna
Speaker 4: be there. But once he started to turn the ball off,
Speaker 4: that was his stick, that was.
Speaker 2: Who he was, had turnover machine.
Speaker 4: They didn't even go back to even thinking about what
Speaker 4: he did previous in his career. But coming from a
Speaker 4: guy like Aaron, I think that's high praise, and I
Speaker 4: think even taking it a step further, was talking about
Speaker 4: that here we go and how unique that is in
Speaker 4: the league, how they've been working on that in the cadence,
Speaker 4: and just you guys know, I mean just that the
Speaker 4: nuances of the game, just playing the game, and Dak
Speaker 4: is playing it at a high level. He talked about
Speaker 4: more than just that, bringing the tight end back in
Speaker 4: on zero covers, things like that, and just understanding it.
Speaker 4: Being just a student of the game the way that
Speaker 4: he is. Everybody that does that, they know that Dak
Speaker 4: is playing at a high level. Nah, I'm with all
Speaker 4: y'all on this one, and I gotta go with you
Speaker 4: on this.
Speaker 2: Danny.
Speaker 5: When you talk about, you know, McCarthy's fingerprints on what
Speaker 5: Dak has been able to do this year. I mean,
Speaker 5: if you look at it to turnovers a way down
Speaker 5: these past four or five games. I mean, he's telling what,
Speaker 5: twenty touchdowns only maybe three or four interceptions. Twenty three
Speaker 5: touchdowns or four or three interceptions out there, So he's
Speaker 5: taking care of the football. You don't see him compounding
Speaker 5: issues like we did last year, like trying to force
Speaker 5: things in there to double on triple coverage.
Speaker 2: If it's not open down there, he's.
Speaker 5: Chucking the ball down to Tony Pollard or one of
Speaker 5: these tight ends out there, and they're able to get it,
Speaker 5: get it going that way. You see him using his
Speaker 5: legs a lot more often with this offense. So look,
Speaker 5: they're offensively right now. They're hitting on all cylinders. But
Speaker 5: you gotta be careful about this praise, man, because they
Speaker 5: will build you up just to tear you down.
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm not trying to hear any of that
Speaker 2: noise about. You know, he's having a hell of a year.
Speaker 2: He's gonna lead this team, that, this, that, and the third.
Speaker 5: Just keep doing what you've been doing, keep that circle
Speaker 5: tight with McCarthy and these teammates, and you know, let
Speaker 5: the place speak for itself, because they will build you
Speaker 5: a quick and then as soon as something bad happening,
Speaker 5: like let's just go out there in Philadelphia. Let's say
Speaker 5: he doesn't have a great game, man, they will chop
Speaker 5: you down like a tree quickness, with a quickness.
Speaker 4: I got two things, Okay, First thing is I think
Speaker 4: Dak not feeling comfortable using his legs over the last
Speaker 4: couple of years played a huge part into while he
Speaker 4: was throwing some turnovers, not not being able to extend
Speaker 4: players like he used to, having to make different reads
Speaker 4: without being able to extend those plays. I think that's
Speaker 4: been a big thing. And I think that yes, that
Speaker 4: does get a lot of hate. He get a lot
Speaker 4: of hate. But that got a lot of hate when
Speaker 4: he threw out those interceptions because that is something that
Speaker 4: you don't usually see from a guy like Dak. And
Speaker 4: then it starts to make you wonder, like what's going
Speaker 4: on because that is something that you just you don't see.
Speaker 4: Dak has been a guy who takes care of the football,
Speaker 4: right then they talk about Josh. Josh Allen is a
Speaker 4: guy who always turns the ball over So it is
Speaker 4: not surprising. It's no shock at all when John's Allen
Speaker 4: goes out there and has two interceptions in the game,
Speaker 4: because everybody's like, we knew he was gonna give it
Speaker 4: to us, all right, when it's Dak Prescott, Right, when
Speaker 4: it is Dak Prescott going out there, and you're like, wait,
Speaker 4: something's off. He's not having a good day because we
Speaker 4: know this is not what we usually expect from Dak Prescott.
Speaker 4: So it's more of a shock of like, man, it
Speaker 4: must be must be something going on over there, because
Speaker 4: this ain't what we usually see from Dak Prescott. You're
Speaker 4: being very fair about that, you know, you're being very
Speaker 4: fair about that assessment between and I think people want
Speaker 4: to call the Josh Allen out on his interceptions, the
Speaker 4: way he played versus the way that the media criticizes Dak.
Speaker 4: I think on the other side, for Josh Allen, it's
Speaker 4: just that he meets all the schematics on what you
Speaker 4: think a quarterback here, a big strong arm, and yeah
Speaker 4: he kind.
Speaker 2: Of mobile too. He could do it all.
Speaker 4: But then I think those tendencies Latin games call it
Speaker 4: a brain forward. Whatever it is, he's gonna give the
Speaker 4: ball up, But he doesn't get racked over the coles
Speaker 4: the same way that Dak does. And you just made
Speaker 4: the one about him early in his career taking care
Speaker 4: of the ball, and josh Ain't never done that, And
Speaker 4: he doesn't face the same criticism if people don't talk
Speaker 4: about him in the same breath even as some of
Speaker 4: these other.
Speaker 2: Quote unquote elite quarterbacks.
Speaker 4: So look, it's gonna be interesting coming down to the
Speaker 4: end of this season how he how he compares to
Speaker 4: those guys, because right now he's playing the best football
Speaker 4: I've seen him playing.
Speaker 5: In your opinion, does he need to do it against
Speaker 5: a better competition like throwing that out?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, This is what Dak said yesterday. Quote what I
Speaker 3: say to myself is as I haven't done you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. It's regular season numbers and are great.
Speaker 3: We're getting wins, that's what's most important. But at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, we're trying to stack and keep
Speaker 3: growing this team. So he's not what you talked about
Speaker 3: there he said yesterday. You know, he's basically he's not
Speaker 3: buying into what's being said. He knows what the mission
Speaker 3: is and Clarence Hills set it on the media match
Speaker 3: several times.
Speaker 2: We know these guys are going to get judged playoff time.
Speaker 2: Where else should you be judged? Then that's it.
Speaker 4: I mean, because we've seen Dak Prescott in the Dallas
Speaker 4: Cowboys here stack up big time of regular season's twelve
Speaker 4: wins here, twelve wins that we've seen it happen, and
Speaker 4: we know that the mission here and the goal is
Speaker 4: to get to the NFC Championship possibly super Bowl. Right,
Speaker 4: So if you don't, you're looking at that. As a player,
Speaker 4: you're saying, Okay, our season was, we had some success,
Speaker 4: but it's not where we want to be.
Speaker 3: But I do think you get judged in both places.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, first off, if you don't have
Speaker 3: a good regular season, that's thank you. So I do
Speaker 3: think that's that's a fair judgment to look at what
Speaker 3: you're doing in the regular season to make sure you
Speaker 3: put your team in that position.
Speaker 2: For years that was.
Speaker 3: I mean, people act like we forgot the first seven
Speaker 3: years of Peyton man. I mean, dude, the struggle bus
Speaker 3: in the playoffs. But you roll out these thirteen and
Speaker 3: three seasons going the first round getting bounced on the rag.
Speaker 3: So and you look at Peyton's.
Speaker 2: Overall playoff record ain't good.
Speaker 3: I mean, you think about Peyton's last football game, two
Speaker 3: Bowl fifty.
Speaker 2: The defense won that game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it don't make me go get old footage every
Speaker 4: time that we lose in the playoffs. Your conversations that
Speaker 4: you be having now he over talking about it now
Speaker 4: the regular season. He's like, what, we know they're gonna
Speaker 4: win twelve games. You know they're gonna make the playoffs.
Speaker 4: That is a thing that has been that that's consistent. Okay,
Speaker 4: that's consistently they've been talking about firing guys who make
Speaker 4: the playoffs. We had all these conversations over the last
Speaker 4: couple of years, and I knew we were talking about Yeah.
Speaker 2: Come on, man, you ain't.
Speaker 6: I know.
Speaker 4: I'm not letting you have that because because we were
Speaker 4: all on this show together.
Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying it, Matt to you discounted it.
Speaker 2: What Heckman and I are saying.
Speaker 4: He discounted it. He said it's regular season. You read it.
Speaker 4: He said regular season.
Speaker 3: But I'm but I'm also saying that the regular season
Speaker 3: does have some merit and matter. Now we know cowboys,
Speaker 3: the Cowboys, you know, the win fan in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: But you have to play well in the regular season
Speaker 3: to get yourself there, and then you look at last
Speaker 3: year's regular season threw all those interceptions. Okay, so he's
Speaker 3: improved this year. He's done his part. It's a totality.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's why I'm not saying it's a whole. We
Speaker 3: all look at the whole totality, but I know where
Speaker 3: the ultimately It's like in the NBA playoffs for years,
Speaker 3: le Brian, you can't win it. You know, That's what
Speaker 3: it looked at For Michael Jordan, it was like, you
Speaker 3: know what mean doing all his scoring, you can't win.
Speaker 3: So I get that part of it. But what he's done.
Speaker 3: We asked him all of us who you got to
Speaker 3: cut down on the picks? And right now he's twenty
Speaker 3: three touchdowns six interceptions. That I look at Josh Allen,
Speaker 3: who is leading the league in terms of touchdown pass
Speaker 3: He's got twenty four touchdown twelve thirteen thirteen picks including bumble.
Speaker 2: Two years in the road though, like he's right behind
Speaker 2: that last year.
Speaker 4: Maybe tired. I'm like that, that's who he is though,
Speaker 4: So like I don't just rick him over the cols
Speaker 4: every week. Every time you see him throw too, And
Speaker 4: I'm tired of talking about Josh Allen Thorn. And you know,
Speaker 4: as a defensive player, when you go out there and
Speaker 4: you play the Buffalo.
Speaker 2: Bills, that it is time to eat right. I'm going
Speaker 2: to try to pass it.
Speaker 4: As good as he is, you know that there's going
Speaker 4: to be an opportunity for you to go out there
Speaker 4: and get a turnover off for me. That is not
Speaker 4: the case with Dak Prescott usually year was that he was.
Speaker 4: That was the case.
Speaker 2: If you think about that.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of guys over there, like, hey, put
Speaker 4: me on whoever he throwing the balls?
Speaker 2: I ain't old y'ardough. Would you rather go against?
Speaker 5: If you're a defender, you're a defense would you rather
Speaker 5: try to defend Dak or Josh Allen?
Speaker 2: Dak? You rather try to defend that?
Speaker 5: Yet, Dak or Josh as a defender?
Speaker 4: Like, who's rather as a defender? As a defensive coordinator?
Speaker 4: I brother brother Josh Allen as a defender. If I'm
Speaker 4: a guy out there on the field, Josh Allen is
Speaker 4: a dude, I'm.
Speaker 2: Like man looking at it, like man, hold up, I
Speaker 2: got run.
Speaker 4: I gotta bring my shoulder pass with That's what I'm
Speaker 4: saying he brings a whole nother dimension. And look, I'm
Speaker 4: not I'm not into this bashion of Josh Allen. I
Speaker 4: know what kind of arm talent that he has. Just
Speaker 4: the fact that he's what you say, he's a turnover.
Speaker 4: She is. That's the thing, that's the that's the gift
Speaker 4: in the curse with him. But come on, let's just
Speaker 4: let's let's be real about this man. When we talk
Speaker 4: about the Dallas Cowboys right now, we're not even getting
Speaker 4: credit for being eight and three because to the teams
Speaker 4: that we beat, we're beating nobody's so allegedly, and so
Speaker 4: until we get to go against those teams with winning records,
Speaker 4: and it's Seattle one of those teams. Okay, one of
Speaker 4: those teams. So when you pull out a victory versus Seattle,
Speaker 4: that's one for you, you know, for your belt.
Speaker 2: You can notch that up.
Speaker 4: And then we know coming on coming after that, that's
Speaker 4: the big showdown that everybody's looking for. So I think
Speaker 4: that just already knows that he knows what you guys
Speaker 4: have already talked talked about.
Speaker 2: You were at a star.
Speaker 4: You're not gonna get into credit and you're gonna get
Speaker 4: all the blame. So for him and even this MVP
Speaker 4: talk man put that to a big win MVP of
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl, Dak, then.
Speaker 2: Look at you. Let's do that, you know what I
Speaker 2: So let's do that.
Speaker 4: It sounds like he forgot about the San Francisco game,
Speaker 4: which he should not. All right, there, you have motivation
Speaker 4: to continue to get better because you have not arrived yet.
Speaker 4: And Dak Prescott has always been a leader like that.
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, I know we ended issues, Okay, we
Speaker 4: know when when it comes time, like the game that
Speaker 4: really matters, that's what we have to show up at.
Speaker 4: We've been showing up against these teams and doing exactly
Speaker 4: what we're supposed to do. But when we get in
Speaker 4: that competition with the Eagles, forty nine Ers, the Lions
Speaker 4: later in the season of Seattle, Seattle Miami, those are
Speaker 4: the opportunities. When you go into that game and you
Speaker 4: come out with those type of stats. That's where everybody's
Speaker 4: sitting there saying, you know what.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because you weren't not playing with the league like
Speaker 5: in those games you might have and then in Miami
Speaker 5: it might be a shootout.
Speaker 2: Like you look, that's a lot.
Speaker 5: Of speed on that side when you talk about Miami
Speaker 5: and then even in this game, this to me is
Speaker 5: gonna be the best defense they've played all year except
Speaker 5: for San Francisco.
Speaker 2: When you look at Siatle on all three levels. I'm
Speaker 2: talking about the d Lion.
Speaker 5: Leonard Williams coming in there from the Giants helps that
Speaker 5: interior to second level get a Hall of Famer, and
Speaker 5: Wagner Brooks is a beast. And in the secondary, which
Speaker 5: I think is a strength, you got three willand you
Speaker 5: got all these This is gonna be a heck of
Speaker 5: a challenge for Dallas Cowboys, you know, offensively, because I
Speaker 5: feel like three Willing matches up with Ceedee Lamb like this,
Speaker 5: I mean, long you run. This is gonna be a
Speaker 5: tough matchup, and I think it's the second best they've
Speaker 5: played since San Francisco.
Speaker 4: Then, the thing that scares me really about Seattle's they
Speaker 4: are a team that mimics their head coach. I mean
Speaker 4: old school guy. That mean they got an old school
Speaker 4: flair abottom. They play tough, you know what they're gonna bring,
Speaker 4: and they're not ever out completely out of a game.
Speaker 4: They're just gonna continue to battle. But man, this is
Speaker 4: a This is a good test. You know, this is
Speaker 4: a good test. And I think that's why Philadelphia is
Speaker 4: so intriguing because the last what four weeks, they've been
Speaker 4: playing halftime, they've been behind and they've had to pull
Speaker 4: out victories. And that's what you want to see from
Speaker 4: the Cowboys. That's what you want to see from Dak.
Speaker 4: Can't he lead them from behind to get the win?
Speaker 3: See, Ile's got three good receivers to absolutely they loaded.
Speaker 2: It's good. Look they're.
Speaker 3: It's not easy. I'll say it again, a second week
Speaker 3: in a row. While I didn't think Washington would be easy,
Speaker 3: it was easy. But Seattle is here comes at six
Speaker 3: and five, team, here comes a team winning record. So
Speaker 3: let's see. Let's see what the Cowboys do at home.
Speaker 3: They're very good at all.
Speaker 2: It's a twelve straight, thirteen straight. It's very good at
Speaker 2: at and T Stadium.
Speaker 3: And Mike McCarthy went out of his way after the
Speaker 3: Thanksgiving their game and praise the fans and the energy
Speaker 3: they brought here.
Speaker 2: So this is.
Speaker 3: Gonna be diff because you know, it's not a holiday,
Speaker 3: it's Thursday. Folks going to get off work and get
Speaker 3: on down there and and and fill up phill up
Speaker 3: the stadium. So I don't know if it will be
Speaker 3: an l a type crowd where people coming in a
Speaker 3: little late, but.
Speaker 4: They taking off Friday. If you go to the games,
Speaker 4: you're taking off taking off. I've never heard it like this,
Speaker 4: Like you you've been to a game this year.
Speaker 2: I have not been.
Speaker 5: It's never been as loud as it's been this year
Speaker 5: in that stadium. And we played here for years and
Speaker 5: every time we came in here it was kind of
Speaker 5: you know, it was it was cool, but it wasn't
Speaker 5: like you know, people was walking around in stilettos and
Speaker 5: like it was the club and everybody was, yeah it.
Speaker 2: Was That's how it was with you. That's how it was.
Speaker 2: Now you got you know, fansving that white flag.
Speaker 5: I mean it's it's a loud stadium now compared to
Speaker 5: what it was when when I was playing.
Speaker 2: You know it was when when it was it was
Speaker 2: a place to be seen.
Speaker 3: So when the lights so when American Airlines Center first
Speaker 3: came out, that was a place to be seen.
Speaker 2: That was like that was it, like you want to
Speaker 2: be seeing them Sunday.
Speaker 4: So that playoff year wasn't loud like that, not like
Speaker 4: years when you was here.
Speaker 2: It wasn't even in that home.
Speaker 4: Game for the playoffs, and fourteen we played Detroit, it
Speaker 4: was nowhere near as loud as it is. Man, wait
Speaker 4: a minute now, twenty sixteen, when y'all came back, When
Speaker 4: y'all came back, man that I hadn't heard a T
Speaker 4: and T stadium that loud when y'all, I mean the
Speaker 4: first half, y'all to give us no reason screens.
Speaker 2: When that second half once it got tied up, I mean,
Speaker 2: everybody woke up.
Speaker 4: But you're right, man, it's they're getting a home field advantage.
Speaker 4: And I think just the Dallas Cowboys fans know that
Speaker 4: we need a home field advantage for so long. Man,
Speaker 4: at and T is like a tourist spot. You know,
Speaker 4: if it's somebody we're not even interested in seeing other
Speaker 4: teams get the tickets and you show up, it's like
Speaker 4: dance more than here than it is us. Now, teams,
Speaker 4: now we're starting to understand. Look, we have to give
Speaker 4: our team that home field advantage, and it would be
Speaker 4: horrible if we didn't get.
Speaker 5: A home About the playoff game versus the Niners two
Speaker 5: years ago, here, I mean, I was it was a
Speaker 5: sea a red.
Speaker 2: And then when Pittsburgh came to town, you've seen terrible
Speaker 2: towels all over the place.
Speaker 3: Different Now it's no law under the tourist spot because
Speaker 3: it's changed.
Speaker 2: The tourist spot's changed.
Speaker 3: It's Vegas that's the tourist spot. That's the tourist spot.
Speaker 3: Now where you look on the schedule. Hey, let's go
Speaker 3: get that game. Because I remember when at and T first,
Speaker 3: when the back when the Cowboys say we first came out.
Speaker 2: I have friends like if we come in, we coming
Speaker 2: and that was a win. Is our team going to
Speaker 2: play there?
Speaker 3: And you know it took a while for certain teams
Speaker 3: to come through, cycle through, but yeah, that was the
Speaker 3: things that well, I got to go see the stadium,
Speaker 3: so people seem the stadium, but hey, it's cool. Let's
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Speaker 3: Heck Maharrison Berry Church, I am merely knew he Scruggs.
Speaker 3: So Shaq Leonard was in the building today. The former
Speaker 3: Indianapolis colt, now free agent, is a meeting with the Cowboys,
Speaker 3: has a meeting schedule with Philadelphia. Mike McCarthy went asked
Speaker 3: during the noon hour of his press conference that there
Speaker 3: was nothing to report. Jerry Jones said he was going
Speaker 3: to have lunch with Leonard today, and that's always a
Speaker 3: good sign when when Jerry sits down chats with you.
Speaker 3: So you got that going on there. But he's come,
Speaker 3: he's gone. Dan Quayn apparently wants to have him on
Speaker 3: the defense. And if you shack Leonard, look at Cowboys
Speaker 3: linebacker spot, you can see yourself getting some playing town.
Speaker 2: A lot, a lot of play.
Speaker 5: And it ain't it ain't like he's gonna have to
Speaker 5: be in my opinion, least, he adn't gonna have to
Speaker 5: be a three down linebacker.
Speaker 2: He can be that.
Speaker 5: He can be that, but I don't think he has
Speaker 5: to be especially with the player of Marque's bell. You
Speaker 5: throw him in there on third downs passing situations, he
Speaker 5: can guard those tight ends running back, So I think
Speaker 5: you know you're saving his body as far as Marky's
Speaker 5: belt in the box.
Speaker 2: But then you got a.
Speaker 5: Guy like Shaq Leonard that can come in there. He
Speaker 5: can play the run. He's all pro for a reason.
Speaker 5: He could play the run. He can play all that
Speaker 5: good stuff. So to me, I don't see why not.
Speaker 5: You know, if he's healthy and everything's you know. I
Speaker 5: don't know is that he had a contract with him
Speaker 5: or he once you clear waivers, you can, man, why
Speaker 5: not bring him on in?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Deal? Ja, Yeah, I feel the same. I think.
Speaker 4: I think when we were talking about the trade deadline,
Speaker 4: I was talking about defensive line and Church mentioned linebackers,
Speaker 4: and you didn't have an opportunity to go get one.
Speaker 4: You got an opportunity right now to get a guy
Speaker 4: seems like pretty and then he will also have the
Speaker 4: opportunity to step in because LV is not coming back,
Speaker 4: Marquis Bell is playing well. But you still know that
Speaker 4: when you get into these games with these physical teams,
Speaker 4: they are going to try to run the ball on you,
Speaker 4: and it would not hurt you to have a guy
Speaker 4: who is a proven player, run stopper to be in there.
Speaker 2: On your defense.
Speaker 4: And if dan Quinn is vouching for him and says
Speaker 4: he wants them, then you know, I'm all in on him.
Speaker 4: It is, you know, my only take on this. And
Speaker 4: you guys talked about his physical abilities and what he's done.
Speaker 4: He's twenty eight years old, he's a guy that's known
Speaker 4: to stop the run. But I'm gonna say this, guys,
Speaker 4: I don't want him to use us as a bargaining
Speaker 4: chip on down the road. You know, if you go,
Speaker 4: if you're gonna, you came here, you visit, stay, you
Speaker 4: know where you want to go. And it's a business.
Speaker 4: It's a business, and I respect the business aspect of it.
Speaker 4: But on the flip side, I know that he's gonna bargain.
Speaker 4: He's gonna highest bidder, you know, And don't use us
Speaker 4: against somebody else, like look, man, you know you want
Speaker 4: to be here.
Speaker 2: Come on, it's a business. But forget the Jerry took
Speaker 2: me to lunch. What you gonta do? Is that what
Speaker 2: to sound like?
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, forget the business man.
Speaker 2: Take that man now stands to the Cowboy club.
Speaker 3: Get it right, man, don't do this like Odell even
Speaker 3: out here.
Speaker 2: So don't even that didn't happen, like did you go
Speaker 2: to a Mavericks game the night they will be remember
Speaker 2: he did that mass man.
Speaker 3: They had a whole bunch of need following like I
Speaker 3: didn't go in the old situation like Calva Walkers Clarens
Speaker 3: and then the old dude running around there.
Speaker 2: With the video what do you think? How is it?
Speaker 3: And your boy was, you know, drinking it all up,
Speaker 3: like you don't want this, you don't want this year.
Speaker 2: Man's celebrity. You want to celebrity game Brown, take it up.
Speaker 2: You're covering the own one and hold on talking about it.
Speaker 3: He wasn't worth the circus, okay he was. No, I've
Speaker 3: been through it with the player. Okay, he wasn't even
Speaker 3: the player. The player, the player actually.
Speaker 4: Produced the guy. Yeah you know the guy. I Knowdell.
Speaker 4: He ain't worth eighteen million right now. But the boy
Speaker 4: looked good. It looks like he's on his way back.
Speaker 4: So I gart Jared right, he should know. He was
Speaker 4: tripling now. Garrett was tripping on if you read social
Speaker 4: a lot, ye don't get him started, bro, Yeah.
Speaker 6: You got.
Speaker 4: Come on, can agitated to take He's a trigger man.
Speaker 2: They followed Odell around with you're still all right right now, I.
Speaker 3: Ain't blowing nothing up yet, so.
Speaker 2: You know what up? Yes, y'all, So shack Leonard Man.
Speaker 4: It's just one of those It's one of those guys
Speaker 4: that we talked about before the season that that was
Speaker 4: the question mark over the lineback and coreps. But I
Speaker 4: think Damon Clark and now with Rashaan Evans, you're seeing
Speaker 4: the linebacker group start to play so much better. And
Speaker 4: also with Marquis Bell. But y'all keep on it out.
Speaker 4: I mean, y'all keep recycling the same thing like Heyo,
Speaker 4: they picking on fourteen because you say they finding them,
Speaker 4: And I think with that dimension of bringing in Leonard,
Speaker 4: he changes all of that because then that rotation includes
Speaker 4: a guy that can step up, especially versus the forty
Speaker 4: nine ers in the way that they run scheme.
Speaker 2: Was until you were bringing them for boom, you got.
Speaker 4: To Yeah, the ten, twelve and twenty one person there,
Speaker 4: like Markus Bell, is not gonna go to the bench
Speaker 4: or anything like that. He still gonna get a lot
Speaker 4: of playing time. It's just there are certain instances in
Speaker 4: the game where you need some heavy hitters to come
Speaker 4: in there with a little weight on them because them
Speaker 4: offensive tackles. They seem to be getting off a little bit.
Speaker 4: So you need a guy who can get in there. Shocking, shocking, shocking.
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Speaker 4: Hey, I know y'all see this dude on social media,
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Speaker 2: Did? You were supposed to last one? But uh yeah
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Speaker 4: Go ahead? Yeah, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. He's
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Speaker 2: Go ahead. I saw it on his face. I ain't
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Speaker 3: cow Eagles face the Niners. Niners can do the Cowboys
Speaker 3: a favor by winning. Vegas has the forty nine Ers
Speaker 3: as a three point favorite at the Link this.
Speaker 5: Week, and that's surprising. Usually the home team and get
Speaker 5: the three points. It's a ten to one team.
Speaker 2: I mean, forty nine ers they good, they real good.
Speaker 2: But eight and three, man, they came back, they came
Speaker 2: back healthy.
Speaker 4: I think it's a little difficult just because how the
Speaker 4: Eagles have been playing in the first half. Eventually they
Speaker 4: gonna get yeah, yeah, So eventually they gonna get got.
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a hell of a game.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that was.
Speaker 4: A hard one to pick because it probably was man
Speaker 4: and just having to watch study up on Seattle and
Speaker 4: watching them versus forty nineer system, it's the nightmare relive,
Speaker 4: bro It's just reliving the trauma all over again.
Speaker 2: It's that run system like all this stuff.
Speaker 4: It confuses, the confuses Debo Deebo's back running and then
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, brock Purty can have
Speaker 4: a four touchdown game, not like Sam Howard where it
Speaker 4: could just the bottom fall out, but all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: brock Perty can get in there look.
Speaker 2: Like a guy.
Speaker 4: So is he not an MVP conversation because yeah, he
Speaker 4: had a couple of weeks where you was like you
Speaker 4: got found out throwing them big routes. He's still he
Speaker 4: still can, he still can make a push for it,
Speaker 4: and I think it's not over with. And especially versus Philadelphia,
Speaker 4: that secondary is worn out.
Speaker 2: Bro you can talking about it. Yeah, it's you know,
Speaker 2: see Dustyle he was handling.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was standing on it right, And it's one
Speaker 4: of those This is gonna be one of those games,
Speaker 4: especially for like a guy like Debo that's like kind
Speaker 4: of taking a step back because of the injuries and
Speaker 4: all like, he's definitely wanting to be a big factor
Speaker 4: in this game.
Speaker 2: And so I mean, and for both of these.
Speaker 4: Squads, I'm sure for uh Philadelphia, this is the man.
Speaker 4: We're gonna prove it that we'll do it to you again,
Speaker 4: even with your quarterback, because that was the main thing
Speaker 4: that the forty nine Ers was throwing into it. Our quarterback,
Speaker 4: I heard, So we couldn't we couldn't do anything. So
Speaker 4: you know, here's the rematch credited. Let's let's go.
Speaker 3: He's got two games coming up down this stretch here
Speaker 3: where I think he can make this this MVP push
Speaker 3: for himself. Obviously, he got the Eagles game coming up,
Speaker 3: and then after they face the Seahawks and Cardinals, they
Speaker 3: get the Ravens Christmas Night national game on on on
Speaker 3: ABC Monday Night Football. So if you go up against
Speaker 3: these two teams who have good defenses, and you're able
Speaker 3: to go out here and you know, show out, I
Speaker 3: think that's going to be what you need. And I
Speaker 3: do believe playing these games on national TV help you out,
Speaker 3: and you know, playing for the forty nine ers, you
Speaker 3: don't always get that. So he's about to be able
Speaker 3: to get to put himself with the spotlight.
Speaker 4: Scary thing about Philadelphia is do we think we've seen
Speaker 4: them play their best football yet?
Speaker 2: Because I don't. I don't think. I don't think we have.
Speaker 2: I'll continue to say this, I think this is what
Speaker 2: they are.
Speaker 3: And that was the next percent. But what if this
Speaker 3: is who they are? Maybe it's and we're thinking and
Speaker 3: judging them off last year's team and they're not last
Speaker 3: year's team.
Speaker 4: I mean, the only place that they're different is obviously
Speaker 4: they lost running backs. They still their offensive line is
Speaker 4: still in check, you know, not healthy, not healthy albeit,
Speaker 4: but I think they still represent the same components. To me,
Speaker 4: when I look at Jalen Hurts, he's just playing in
Speaker 4: his system that Taylor made for him. That first half
Speaker 4: was abysmal. It looked like, man, he was a shell
Speaker 4: of himself. And then he comes out in the second
Speaker 4: half and he balls out because the offense gives him
Speaker 4: an opportunity to be a playmaker.
Speaker 2: And no matter how.
Speaker 4: Good San Francisco's defense is, once Philadelphia gets inside of
Speaker 4: the forty, it becomes the Jalen Hurts Show because then
Speaker 4: you have so much else to worry about. You can
Speaker 4: you can spy him with Fred Warner all you want to,
Speaker 4: and he'll still figure out a way to beat Fred
Speaker 4: Warner to the edge. It's just one of those things
Speaker 4: that you see them playing. He's playing in the system
Speaker 4: that Taylor made for him.
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts doing this thing. I do worry.
Speaker 4: Don't you lean over here and me don't do that.
Speaker 2: Just give him You know what I'm saying. I guess
Speaker 2: did then knocked.
Speaker 4: The battle a little bit system because it's a system
Speaker 4: tailor made for the guys.
Speaker 2: Guy playing the system, tailor made for.
Speaker 4: The guys playing good football, throwing and running, running the ball.
Speaker 4: And even when he starts the game off as a
Speaker 4: shell of himself, three of Alanda thirty three yards when
Speaker 4: it's when it's time to turn, and how the end
Speaker 4: that game a winner?
Speaker 2: How many touchdowns? Like so, you tell me did that?
Speaker 6: Five?
Speaker 2: He did that and a half and over time?
Speaker 4: I mean, goodness, Grace, you're talking about.
Speaker 3: The worry I have for shock Leaders if he gets
Speaker 3: up there to Philadelphia. Is that the conversation with Jalen
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts and just his ability to recruit as well.
Speaker 4: They didn't go to Super Bowl last year because you know,
Speaker 4: you're looking for a contender and right now you've got
Speaker 4: two contenders that you're visiting.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, I hope he comes over here.
Speaker 3: But you know, we see Jalen Hurts in the Mega
Speaker 3: Man shot Litter Maga Man had that kind of talk
Speaker 3: like that, and.
Speaker 2: That's how y'all do it? Huh could could go that way.
Speaker 3: Let's Jerry right now, you know does his thing?
Speaker 4: Well, you need to go have a conversation, you and
Speaker 4: Derek and uh who else.
Speaker 2: We weren't invited to lunch was Brady James at lunch?
Speaker 2: Al y'all need a Q counsel hopefully Harold Nash back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, get the good brus together, Jerry. Look, Jerry can
Speaker 3: close now you know how to close, and so hopefully
Speaker 3: he does. But I would, I would highly if you
Speaker 3: like him, I highly recommend you don't.
Speaker 2: Let him get on that plane. Ahead, don't let him,
Speaker 2: don't let him, can't.
Speaker 3: Go, don't let jail Hurst talk to him, because okay,
Speaker 3: be strong that the force is strong.
Speaker 5: What do you say he never lost a player that
Speaker 5: he wanted or something, Jerry, And he's like, I ain't
Speaker 5: never lost a player I wanted.
Speaker 2: So I mean, look this that I would be tempted.
Speaker 4: I would be tempted to man, I would be tempted
Speaker 4: to make make that offer for him, especially knowing that
Speaker 4: l V you don't know what the future is. Would
Speaker 4: you've been being able to get a guy like this man,
Speaker 4: that would be pretty good?
Speaker 2: It would it would compete with that state y'all leave
Speaker 2: Randy alone, you know doing this thing. They leaving Randy
Speaker 2: alone alone games?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and they ship him about it and is
Speaker 4: going to Winter Street. H Russell Wilson playoffs that amazing
Speaker 4: laughing stocks of the first three first three games of
Speaker 4: the season.
Speaker 2: Were sitting there like man like Walmart made a mess
Speaker 2: mess seventy points. But no, look, Grandy Gregor, shouldn't the
Speaker 2: credit also be given to Sean Payton?
Speaker 4: Yes, your coach, But we were talking about him too.
Speaker 4: We were sitting y'all thought was gonna fix it. He
Speaker 4: wanted to talk.
Speaker 2: Can't fix Russ. I'm about Hackett and all that. Now
Speaker 2: you he's done.
Speaker 3: He's done a fantastic job of Michael Lombardi talks about
Speaker 3: Apollo thirteen. I know you guys ain't watched the movie.
Speaker 2: I have no idea the spaceship movie. Yeah, I saw
Speaker 2: that way back when though. Okay, well, I.
Speaker 3: Mean they coming in, they dropped the parts and they say,
Speaker 3: we gotta make We got to take this and make
Speaker 3: it into this with this and put all the parts
Speaker 3: up there and they have to figure outw to get
Speaker 3: him back home. And that's what Sean Payton has done.
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, I got to take this, let's right
Speaker 3: and put it in with that. And so far they've
Speaker 3: made it work. And that's what he's done as a coach.
Speaker 3: And that's what good coaches do. They figure out, Okay,
Speaker 3: what are the strengths. Because Russ still has his issues.
Speaker 3: He's covered up the warts. That's what he's done. A
Speaker 3: great job. He's covering up the warts in Denver and
Speaker 3: they're playing good football right now. They are they unlike
Speaker 3: your boy Brandon Staley, they have actually found themselves competing.
Speaker 2: In the AFC West.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna give no credit to Russ. I gona give
Speaker 2: a lot of turn around nor I think Russe has
Speaker 2: been playing. He'saying with it. He's been playing within himself.
Speaker 2: He ain't let Russ beat in. He ain't let Russ.
Speaker 4: They've gotten better over I'm saying cooking though, all of
Speaker 4: a sudden, thank you.
Speaker 2: That's why.
Speaker 4: That's exactly the point that I was gonna make. I
Speaker 4: think Russ has kind of figured out. Man, I got
Speaker 4: some weapons for real in Courtland Sutton, and he's using them.
Speaker 4: I think, man, before it just looked like those first
Speaker 4: couple of games, Russ was just now he was late
Speaker 4: with the ball.
Speaker 2: Uh, And now you see all of that changing.
Speaker 4: They're also getting the running game involved, which is a
Speaker 4: pivotal part of your passing game. So look, Sean Payton,
Speaker 4: as much as we talked about him in the year's
Speaker 4: past on Mike's neck, know he is showing that he's
Speaker 4: that dude. Take guess how many passes Russ completed thirteen
Speaker 4: thirteen twenty two for one hundred and thirty four yards.
Speaker 4: He ain't letting him come, just saying he ain't letting
Speaker 4: Russ cook. They ain't doing this because of Russ. He's
Speaker 4: a numbing team Russ. And he's like, you're not gonna
Speaker 4: beat me Russ. This ain't Drew Brees said, are you
Speaker 4: not going to give him any Russ has made some
Speaker 4: big time plays, It's a big time moment.
Speaker 3: Russ has played well, but I'm telling you, I just
Speaker 3: believe that Sean Payton is making him play within his system.
Speaker 2: That's what.
Speaker 4: No credit, like rusting it like Bobby Fla. He said,
Speaker 4: credit us get some credit. He gets some credit. I
Speaker 4: watched I watched the Broncos games. Now, how about that
Speaker 4: your quarterback takes.
Speaker 2: I can't trust you on that. Man, like Herber's trash,
Speaker 2: they're going miss the playoff. Everybody gonna get he on
Speaker 2: the priority list. He probably like fifth. I'm just saying
Speaker 2: abouty get fired. Oh yeah, all yeah, you couldn't say
Speaker 2: killing one and done. Boy, wonder it's looking like it.
Speaker 2: It's looking like it. Come on, you can't.
Speaker 3: Staley is now worse than Anthony Lynn when they got
Speaker 3: rid of Anthony Lynn. Oh you can't win close games.
Speaker 3: You're charging you're charging up, and they're doing this.
Speaker 2: They're worse. He's still there, worse. How are you still there?
Speaker 2: All that talent?
Speaker 5: They got the highest, the highest defensive rids of defense
Speaker 5: trash to be a defensive coach defense trad he's that man.
Speaker 3: Everybody thought because they defense played well last the last
Speaker 3: two games.
Speaker 4: They scored three points at the first We said in
Speaker 4: Washington game, like where is did.
Speaker 2: You did you look at the previous eleven games. Defense
Speaker 2: was horrible, terrible. That's why I started, Lamar said. I said,
Speaker 2: I wasn't starting them all season.
Speaker 4: They played the charges I figured out I got.
Speaker 2: I still won that game though, and other league.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just made know Mike McCarthy real good. Look
Speaker 3: like Mike exactly what he was doing, man, exactly what
Speaker 3: he's doing.
Speaker 4: I compare that to how Russe and Denver and them
Speaker 4: looked and at the beginning of the season to where uh,
Speaker 4: Dak and McCarthy and Dack said he had to figure
Speaker 4: out the offense. Now he feels comfortable in the offense.
Speaker 4: I think, not as good as Dak has been playing.
Speaker 4: But I think you see that same thing happening with Denver.
Speaker 4: But I think the sky is the limit for us
Speaker 4: if we continue to get everybody involved to Super Bowl wedding.
Speaker 2: Head coaches know what to call plays you're talking about
Speaker 2: versus you guy, the guy who yo, y'all cool with
Speaker 2: the people that they put the Cowboys played against. It's
Speaker 2: just like no click, no no, no, no, no no no, because.
Speaker 4: Man, I'm just saying I want to see what happens
Speaker 4: the next five But that's come on, there's certain there's
Speaker 4: certain aspects about it that it does boil down to execution, right,
Speaker 4: I mean, and you have seen them clean up a
Speaker 4: lot of those things that they were doing and starting slow.
Speaker 2: They're not starting slow.
Speaker 5: The penalties aren't, you know, adding up against them. So
Speaker 5: that's that's kudos to the team and Mike McCarthy. But
Speaker 5: you still got to take a look at who they've
Speaker 5: played against.
Speaker 2: Are the top three top three? And what record with
Speaker 2: NFC teams? Yes, yes, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 5: Whose Detroit three and four? With Detroit three or four,
Speaker 5: it's like even after you wow, so you got I'm
Speaker 5: just throwing Detroit. You got Philly, friend, Yeah, those are legit.
Speaker 5: They beat them, and y'all just this is no question
Speaker 5: that the better than Detroit.
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not, y'all know.
Speaker 4: Let me say it for the record. Hell yeah, we
Speaker 4: better than you want to hell yeh yeah.
Speaker 2: Yes, better than Troit. Okay, yeah, we'll see. I'm like,
Speaker 2: it's like, we'll see. Come on, Detroit has played some things.
Speaker 5: They got blown out by, they got beaten back, they.
Speaker 2: Got drilled it home by Green Bay on thanks.
Speaker 3: They loved about seven Man that they came out Jason
Speaker 3: Garret Spec Dream Band came out there with swap inside
Speaker 3: their head. They came back again and then unlike the
Speaker 3: week before where they came and escape, they wasn't no
Speaker 3: escape this.
Speaker 4: I'm blamed that on the Jack Hallow performance, Heads and
Speaker 4: Tails above Detroit.
Speaker 2: I feel like there's a lot of pride talking.
Speaker 4: Like I'm not I'm not going. I'm telling you our
Speaker 4: defense has been better than detroits for years. I mean
Speaker 4: they're just now getting that, so, I mean we've been
Speaker 4: used to them sucking and now that they look good,
Speaker 4: we just want to give it to them.
Speaker 2: I'm just no bro, you see it and heck man,
Speaker 2: you get the last word. We appreciate that. That's a
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