1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: US Open Tennis Stay two. Jenny Brandover is here partner 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: at d h R International, Executive search company, to talk 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: about what she's seeing in the job market. GENI welcome back. Well, 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: I love being here with you. Well, you wouldn't miss it. 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: The girl who grew up next door to Bobby Riggs 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: and learned to play tennis as a child and has 7 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: loved it ever since. Absolutely so. We know a lot 8 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: of people from Wall Street come to the Open. I 9 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: want to know a year almost ago, Cheenie, you are 10 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: at the end of last year, we're saying Wall Street 11 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: is gonna do more hiring this year? Have they? Did 12 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: they pick up the pace? Yet? Everybody picked up the pace. 13 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 1: We're busier at DT International. We're busier than I think 14 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: we've been since two thousand and seven. It's unbelievable. I 15 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: know the jobs report didn't really reflect that, but the 16 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: c e o s are really driven to build revenue 17 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: and they do that through their talent. So we're seeing 18 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: unbelievable mans of hiring right now. Is there any part 19 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: of Wall Street? Is it on the tech side where 20 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: people want to compete with fintech? Is it on the 21 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: cybersecurity side? Is it on the sales side, is it trading, 22 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: what is it? Where do you see the most really 23 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: all of that, but where we see the most growth 24 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 1: period is in technology and financial services with technology. So 25 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: either it's in financial services where they are revving up 26 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: their technology, or it's in fintech, or it's in technology itself. 27 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: And really what it's about when you think about it, 28 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: big data, right, huge amounts of data every one of 29 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: these companies have, and then it expands beyond financial services. 30 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: We're talking healthcare, We're talking other industries that are also 31 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: hiring these people. So the trend that we're seeing hugely 32 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: is everything in technology from PhDs, you know, data scientists, 33 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: search scientists. They want the best and don't forget technology 34 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: is the driving factor for product. So our companies having 35 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: to offer higher salaries, more pay or are people still 36 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: at the point where they're just happy to get a 37 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: good job at a confirm. Those days are way behind 38 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: us right now. I mean, clearly a lot of people 39 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: are just happy to be employed. But the reality of 40 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: it is if you are a person with talent in 41 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: technology and through what you do it can build revenue, 42 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: you will be in demand and you will get a 43 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: higher salary. So it's very competitive in the Silicon Valley 44 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: to New York. They're everywhere now, so it's not just 45 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: in one region. Are we not seeing as reflected more 46 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 1: in the broad national job support that covers all industries 47 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: because these are high skilled jobs, and these are the 48 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: kind of jobs that are coveted at the same time 49 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: not often filled, and people without the skills just don't 50 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: even just don't even qualify, you know. That's actually one 51 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: of the problems. People have to change their skill sets. 52 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: What I'm always trying to advise young people in school 53 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: all the way to people that are very experienced, You've 54 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: got to be today's person, and that I don't care 55 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: if you're a CFO, a CEO, anything, you are a 56 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: technology driven person. So uh, in terms of tech more 57 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: broadly than fintech, you still seeing demand there absolutely the 58 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: same kinds of people all the firms are looking for 59 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: because that's where they're going to get their market share. 60 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: And if they have the best product, which is technology driven, 61 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: they're going to be the best. Quickly coding should I 62 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: learn coding doesn't make anything? And I should well, okay, 63 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: and this summer beginning of autumn that we're just gonna 64 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: get together and code like crazy. We'll come up with 65 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: a whole new company on there. Hey, oh, don't tell 66 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: my boss that. Yeah, okay. Jenny brown O bran Over 67 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: continues as we continue our special live coverage here at 68 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: the US Tennis Open, Day two, Taking Stock Bloomberg Radio. 69 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: Richard Kent's back. He's the author of two books, one 70 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: of them Federal Nadal, very important both those. Roger's not 71 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: here and Dal's been doing surprisingly well. I'm Kathleen Hayes, 72 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: and this is Bloomberg. You're listening to Taking Stock with 73 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: Kathleen Hayes and Pim Fox on Bloomberg Radio D two. 74 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: Taking Stock Bloomberg Radio Live from the US Tennis Open, 75 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: Flushing Queens in New York. We are going to take 76 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: a look now at some of the big features, some 77 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: of the big themes at this year's Open. We have 78 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: two very special Shell guests. Jennie bran Over continues with us. 79 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: She is a partner in DHR International. She helps important 80 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: people find big jobs on Wall Street and in technology, 81 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: and she's also an avid, avid tennis player in a Fionado. 82 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: She's out here every year for the Open and another 83 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: return engagement Richard Kent. He's an attorney. He's also covering 84 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: the Open this year again part of the media, author 85 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: of two books. The one I particularly want to focus 86 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: on is a federal Nadal. So Richard, welcome back, Thank you, 87 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Well, let's start though Roger feder is 88 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: not here. Rafa Nadal is playing well despite his many 89 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: injuries of late, but American tennis. When I spoke to Nicolitieri, 90 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: Tennis Hall of Famer, he's the guy who did so 91 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: much to create tennis training. American tennis needs more investment 92 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: in its young players. Jack Sock is up in a 93 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: very important match, an American man actually advancing potentially, I 94 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: don't want to jink them at the Open. And Ryan 95 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: Harrison in court seventeen with an unbelievable crowd behind him, 96 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: is tied in the second set against Marco Bagdadas well 97 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: us the first at six three. I mean, those are 98 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: two great hopes for American tennis. And Jared Donaldson a 99 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: great story in this Open. So what's wrong with American 100 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: tennis that we do not, especially on the men's side. 101 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: On apart from Serena and I guess we're sister anyway, 102 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: we don't we don't get further like we used to. Well, 103 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: I think if you asked me the question two years ago, 104 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: I would have said that young athletes are going into 105 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: other sports. Other sports that day deemed to be more 106 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: lucrative from day one, perhaps, like baseball or basketball or football. 107 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: But if you're asking me today, with SoC on the 108 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: court at the at Louis Armstrong and with Ryan at 109 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: that beautiful court seventeen, I've got to tell you, American 110 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: tennis looks really good right now and the crowd is ugeer, 111 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: so clearly people care about it. So I personally miss 112 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: Federate terribly. So do you think it's the same kind 113 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: of open that it was before without him? Actually, Federate 114 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: told me yesterday that he misses you before. Oh my god, 115 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: you're married my day. No, it is not the same 116 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: type of open as it was with Roger. And you 117 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: could just listen to interviews and I'll take two of them. 118 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: Stan Vavrinka obviously from Switzerland, Rodgers doubles partner in the Olympics, 119 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: not this time but in the previous times, and Raphael 120 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: the Doubt. In their post match interviews they incorporate Roger's name, 121 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: so it shows how significant he is to the game. 122 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: Snow his Labor Cup, which was announced the Wednesday before 123 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: the Open started, is you just being discussed in the 124 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: media room all the time. Europe against the rest of 125 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: the world in Czechoslovakia Prague next October, and that's a 126 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: federal run event. His agency with Tony Godsick, is running it. 127 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: So Federer is somewhere around the numbers of this event 128 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: right now, even though he's I don't think he's on 129 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: premises today. Well, I do think personally that he just 130 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: changed tennis and how people wanted to watch him, and 131 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: they respected him, and he gave an incredible image at 132 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: a very senior level to mentor correctly in tennis. So 133 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: he's missed. Can you imagine and going to Wimbledon as 134 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: I have for a Murray Federer match and having the 135 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: crowd root for Federer. I mean that that is that's 136 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: almost incredulous. And and let me give you the other example, 137 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: and that's right here, I believe in oh five when 138 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: Roddick was playing Federer in the final, Roder went ballistic 139 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: after saying, this is my country. I grew up in Lincoln, Nebraska. 140 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: I'm the University of Nebraska football fan, and this crowd 141 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: is for Roger Federer and Tiger Woods, of all people 142 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: is sitting in Federer's box, which is unbelievable. So what 143 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: about this year? What do you think in terms of 144 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: who's gonna who's gonna come out the victor? Well, I 145 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: picked uh in my bracket challenge uh Andy Murray to 146 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: wint it. I think he's playing the best tennis right now. 147 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: Um I would have said forty two minutes ago that 148 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: Chilich was a strong favorite to wint it. He's good 149 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: chance of losing the sock today. And del Potro has 150 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: far and away the best forehand in tennis, even if 151 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: Roger was in the game. And in terms of popularity 152 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: though and revenues, though, do we need to have another Roger? 153 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: Editor her? And hopefully you know, I mean, I'm not 154 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: just in Novak, Djokovic or Rapa who's still playing, But 155 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: do you have to because all these guys are getting older, 156 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: do we need a youngster like that coming up? And 157 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: same thing on the women's side, Serena is not gonna 158 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: play forever. I think in terms of do we need 159 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: another Roger Federer, it's really the big four and it 160 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: was the Big four previously with Lyndell, McEnroe, Borg and 161 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: Connors and now obviously Djokovic, Nadal, Murray and Federer. So 162 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: it's it's more than Roger. It's it's the fact that 163 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: he's a part of the big four. So you know, 164 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 1: if if it was a Roger isolated in two years 165 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,599 Speaker 1: with no clear definable number two or number three, I 166 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: don't think that would do much for the game. Right Well, 167 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,719 Speaker 1: how about the women's side, what are you thinking? I'm 168 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: thinking Serena is gonna win this. I'm thinking there's a 169 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 1: lot of pressure that was taken off of her by 170 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: win in Wimbledon. I think she's got a real chip 171 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: on her shoulder because of what happened last year against Vinci. 172 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 1: I mean, I I don't know how this is gonna sound. 173 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: I don't think that Vinci won that match. I think 174 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: Serena lost that match, and I think Serena is gonna winness. 175 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: I love Madison Keys, who's playing right now. I think 176 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: she won the first set. I'm not sure at the 177 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: score in the second set, but she's a She's going 178 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: to be a great, great player, and woes Niaki is 179 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: playing a lot better. I watched her in New Haven 180 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 1: some eight days ago, who was in the first day, 181 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: and I said, she's done. And now it looks like 182 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: the woes Niaki who was number one in the world 183 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: for eight weeks at one point in time, little known 184 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: fact of old. Do you think the Olympics are going 185 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: to affect Serena at all emotionally or mentally in what way? Well, 186 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: she didn't. She didn't really do that. Well, correct, I 187 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: think that's long behind. Okay, so you know what, I'm 188 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: a normal person, she's not, so I guess that doesn't 189 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: affect her. And now I went to her opening press 190 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: conference and it's it's in like an issue. The Olympics 191 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: are huge, obviously, uh, but I don't think that's going 192 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: to impair Serrina's performance. All right, well, just getting started. 193 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: Richard can't thank you so very much for joining us 194 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: his uh fetter and a doll one of his books, 195 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: Roger Federer back on top as well. There you go, 196 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 1: so you see and you can reach o like that, 197 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: you can. I'm sure you can find his book many places. 198 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: He's got such a good mind for tennis. Jenny brown 199 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,599 Speaker 1: Over thanks for joining his partner at d HR International, 200 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: helping US dive into tennis and the excitement and the 201 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: business of it as well. Coming up, our exclusive Bloomberg 202 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: interview with Vladimir Putin. I'm Kathleen Hayes. This is Bloomberg.