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Speaker 1: So let's begin this week's episode. Y'all. He was literally

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Speaker 1: just keep keying. I'm like, let me start this conversation

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Speaker 1: with her, because I can tell it it's going to

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Speaker 1: be an amazing conversation. I am super excited to speak

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Speaker 1: with my guests today. She is an award when an

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Speaker 1: expert in the field of human trafficking, a feel she

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Speaker 1: comes to with five years of pain experience as a

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Speaker 1: survivor of human and labor trafficking. With her multicultural background,

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Speaker 1: she is committed to edge encouraging diversity and inclusion, making

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Speaker 1: a difference in the decriminalization of human trafficking, poverty, and

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Speaker 1: homelessness with minors. She is a doctoral learner, veteran wife,

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Speaker 1: mother of eight, and a comedian, which I can already

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Speaker 1: tell y'all got you funny hell, And most importantly, she

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Speaker 1: led the nation's first political campaign against human trafficking. So

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Speaker 1: to my guest, thank you so much for being a

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Speaker 1: part of the show. And how are you doing? Girl?

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Speaker 1: Doing good? And this this this cold? It's not sunny.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say sunny. It was like cold and

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Speaker 1: cloudy day out in Houston. Textlas So all my Houstonians,

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Speaker 1: what's up y'all? Hey, just shout out to age Town. Yes,

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Speaker 1: aged Town, the city of their birth, beyoncey. Now, what

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Speaker 1: is the life expectancy of a survivor that makes it out? Oh?

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Speaker 1: You know what, that's a great question. I tell people

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Speaker 1: to ask that question all the time. Now, according to

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Speaker 1: uh most statistics, because of the amount of trauma I've

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Speaker 1: been through, I wasn't supposed to make it past twenty five.

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Speaker 1: I'm forty five years old with eight children, and I'm

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Speaker 1: probably gonna be, you know, one of the only survivals

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Speaker 1: with as many children as I do have. Because you know,

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Speaker 1: once you start getting pregnant by your abusers and things

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Speaker 1: like that, you know, you start looking at other options

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Speaker 1: other than uh foster care or adoption. A lot of

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Speaker 1: time girls don't want the pain of the memory to exist,

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Speaker 1: and you know they want to abort um. And so

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Speaker 1: you know, you get the way of tearing your body

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Speaker 1: with pregnancies because to be traffic needs to be traded,

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Speaker 1: you know, uh, not being able to go to the

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Speaker 1: you gotta include what if you're on drugs or not,

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Speaker 1: you know, what was your health and mental h status? Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, like before you were trafficking, and then after

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Speaker 1: you are trafficing things like that, you know you can't

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Speaker 1: time and things like that. To kind of curb some

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Speaker 1: of the disadvantages of the woman's body because we go

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Speaker 1: through things right, Um, we have ovariads and uteruses and

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Speaker 1: things like that. You know, you were walking around here

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Speaker 1: mean by the time you're about you know, in my situation,

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Speaker 1: and by the time I was nineteen, I had already

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Speaker 1: slept with fift men. So as you can imagine, had

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Speaker 1: somebody who had not been trafficed or had been able

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Speaker 1: know that we um usually getting stuff like that. So

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Speaker 1: if I had to guess, just per my experience and

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Speaker 1: what I've gone through, UM, only one percent of survivor survived.

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Speaker 1: But if I had to guess, the life expectancy probably

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Speaker 1: also depend on codependency levels. Are the drugs involved? Is

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Speaker 1: that alcohol involved? Um? And what what will it take

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Speaker 1: for you to stop? Because I don't think people count

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Speaker 1: that in when they're thinking about survivors. You know, you

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Speaker 1: do get addicted to the strip pole, you do get

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Speaker 1: So well, let me tell y'all, you don't look like

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Speaker 1: she'd been through anything. The skin is on, the eyebrows

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Speaker 1: the white Okay, come on, now, come on. Well, you

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Speaker 1: know that was one of the advantages of being a stripper. Um,

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Speaker 1: I worked with a lot of white girls, you know,

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Speaker 1: if I could just be candid, I worked a lot

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Speaker 1: of white girl clubs before I was even introduced to

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Speaker 1: it's a whole production. It's and it's so beautiful the

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Speaker 1: Working in white girl clubs is they are so helpful

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Speaker 1: and supportive and just like, oh my god, you need things.

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Speaker 1: You know. It's just like you. I mean, like shout

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Speaker 1: out to my white girl friends, like y'all freaking rock

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Speaker 1: my girls that are stripping. Uh still, you know, hey,

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Speaker 1: I am a survivor, but I love you, sis. And

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Speaker 1: when you're ready to come out, I'm I'm I'm here

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Speaker 1: ready to catch you, sis. But I know that's a

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Speaker 1: very hard thing to do, but uh, it's glamorous. I mean,

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Speaker 1: and the legs. Black girl clubs, ask ask ask as

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Speaker 1: there's already asked in a black girl club, but in

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Speaker 1: white girl clubs, it's like, you don't need an ass,

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Speaker 1: you don't need none of that. You need posture and

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Speaker 1: you need positioning. You need to be able to acrobatically, okay,

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Speaker 1: romantically and mathematically work that motherfucker pole. If you don't

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Speaker 1: know how to work that pop baby, you're not gonna

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Speaker 1: make no money, okay, because that's where your money is at.

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Speaker 1: And then you gotta think about the class of the audience.

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Speaker 1: These are prestigious white men, prestigious a lot of times

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Speaker 1: conservative white men who do not want the ambiance of

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Speaker 1: the secular world in the strip club. Meaning I know

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Speaker 1: I'm coming here to be entertained by someone, but if

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Speaker 1: And so you have to meet that criterion. So you

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Speaker 1: can't come in there, you know, all flamboyant. You need

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Speaker 1: have to channel that whole feminine creative exactly it is

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Speaker 1: a total uniform. So how we all you know, black women,

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Speaker 1: I love us, but we are raw raw raw, Right,

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Speaker 1: you can't do that in no white girl club. You okay,

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Speaker 1: raw raw row and the white girl club. It's not

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Speaker 1: gonna work. Since it's not you can't have attitude and

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Speaker 1: used to go to troop clubs a lot, especially when

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Speaker 1: Like it's a complete difference. A man and even how

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Speaker 1: john because essentially he's you know, they're they're all buying sex, right,

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Speaker 1: I want your presence. Okay, you're buying sex, you're buying

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Speaker 1: the ambiance. And you can be with a john and

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Speaker 1: if that one girl isn't enough, or if that girl

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Speaker 1: and when we're talking about a white girl club, if

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Speaker 1: My name was Ginger when I was in the White

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Speaker 1: Girl Club, who's your name is? Club girl? Cash? Okay cash,

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Speaker 1: cash and seduction? Oh my god, horrible, horrible girl. So

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Speaker 1: every time when Ustra came up with that song said

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Speaker 1: God forgive me and the club, I said, okay, now, okay, girl,

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Speaker 1: that was my song. But see, you can't like the

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Speaker 1: ambiance and the Black girl club and slow songs is

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Speaker 1: not the same. Like you gotta give like anyway, I'll explained.

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Speaker 1: and Trishia will be like, oh my god, I have

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Speaker 1: You know, by the time one drink turns into five

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Speaker 1: Yeah's a hustle. I'm with my man. That's whoever that

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Speaker 1: Why do you think audulfication is so common in black children, Well,

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Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying, no matter how much you

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Speaker 1: see you as dating so many men, especially if ever

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Speaker 1: he's an uncle. Now problem what that was? Because your

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Speaker 1: human being, I'm thinking now and my interpretation as a child,

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Speaker 1: the success level of us return to this kid home,

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00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: back to this parent or back to this relatives. How

426
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: else would you measure it right? How else would you

427
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: measure it it being successful that they made a good decision.

428
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying. And I think that if

429
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: that was in place, then bout the six month marker

430
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: once my grandmother had died. Because my grandmother died like

431
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: six months after me being returned back home, UM, and

432
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 1: she she passed away from breast cancer. You know the

433
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 1: adults that were you know, that were in my life,

434
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: which would be in her children, m you know, they

435
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: they did not directly want to you know, control the

436
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: part of her state that dealt with her grandchildren, which

437
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 1: which would have made me dead. Niece and nephew at

438
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: that time, you know, they didn't want that, and which

439
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 1: is fine, But at that particular point, I believe, you know,

440
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: the state should have been able to step in and say,

441
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: you know, hey, well you guys are awarding of this thing.

442
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: I was a bandon, and so let's just get that

443
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: out of style. I was a bandit. I was sleeping outside.

444
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: I was living behind a Walmart. I slept in a

445
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 1: cardboard box for months. I took a bath in Walmart

446
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: bathrooms and this is before they were even eco friendly. Okay,

447
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: so I just slept on so many bathroom floors. It's unimaginable,

448
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: you know. And just having to live within the constraints

449
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: of a cardboard box, I mean, you can only imagine

450
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: what that felt like for me to just have to

451
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 1: be right to die. Um. But I mean I I

452
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: understood some level, you know, I understood some level of accountability.

453
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: And I had a lot of levels of adaptability just

454
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: because of the transition and of life I had experienced

455
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: before being homeless, which was fonds to care, which was

456
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: being removed from family's home. I think, not to cut

457
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 1: you off, how much accountability can you take us a child.

458
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: You're right, You're right, But what I'm saying is as

459
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: far as survival, accountability is for as survival. I knew

460
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: I needed to eat. I knew I needed to have

461
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: somewhere to stay, like I knew I needed to stay

462
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: in school. Do you understand what I'm saying? Like, you know,

463
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 1: even though my situation was bad, I think it really

464
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 1: could have been worse had I made just had I

465
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: had that fucking attitude, like you know what, fucking nobody

466
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: cares about me, right, you know what I mean? And

467
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 1: I didn't take that approach. And you know, because I

468
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: didn't take that approach, that actually pissing some people off

469
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: because they wouldn't have preferred me to make other decisions right,

470
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: to not end up in the situation. But I really

471
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: didn't have any choice. And it's it's so freaking hard

472
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: for people to believe that I didn't have a choice.

473
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 1: Another part, Yeah, I think life is hard. This is

474
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 1: not easy when you don't have support. That's so true.

475
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: It is so true. And I think too, you know,

476
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: the other part of adultifying is when other grown of

477
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: people start measuring their ability to manage your conflict. Meaning

478
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: I was hearing adult conversations of how they were gonna

479
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: manage my conflict on a long a long term uh

480
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: basis meaning I'm living with them. I'm CouchSurfing, but I'm

481
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: living with them for a couple of months. Everything is

482
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 1: going good, nothing bad has happened. I'm not a bad kid.

483
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: I'm not doing anything wrong. But the conversation with adults

484
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: are are and I'm hearing it. It is, well, you know,

485
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 1: you can't stay here too long because you might get pregnant.

486
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: And I don't think that I should have been in

487
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: a place where I had to manage that conflict. If

488
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: it was if I can't stay here too long because

489
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: I might get pregnant, that should have been a conversation

490
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: that I wasn't privy to. If you didn't want me

491
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: in your household um longer than longer than um necessary,

492
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: then then you know, maybe how about talk to a

493
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: school counselor and say, hey, I got the kid living

494
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 1: with me. What do you think you know I should do.

495
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: She's not a bad kid, nothing's going on wrong. But

496
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 1: should I contact the proper authorities? Her parents has been deceased,

497
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: but she's going to school from my house? What can

498
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 1: what can the school do and that's not what happened.

499
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: It was like to move me out of the structure.

500
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: It was and they couldn't find anything wrong. It was okay,

501
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: you can't stay here too long because you might get pregnant,

502
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: and I don't want that happening. But I didn't know

503
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: when they told you you might get pregnant. Who was

504
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: gonna impregnate you the men in the house. But well

505
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: not only just the men in the house. You know,

506
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: a lot of the people I was living with a

507
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: couch surfing with. There was your boys. M so all

508
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: my friends was like, you know, these were young boys

509
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: that I had grew up with, and they were just like,

510
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna look out for you. You know

511
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It was easy for them to beg

512
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: their mama who was working all the time for me

513
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: to stay because I'm like a straight A students. For instance,

514
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: if if if it was a young boy who needed

515
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: help with his homework, because I was really good at

516
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: math and I was helping with the homework all the time,

517
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: I could end up, you know, spending a night that

518
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: particular night because I stayed over helping with homework, right,

519
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: And if I was helping them get their grades better,

520
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: getting their grades together and stuff like that. Then it

521
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: would end up me staying a little bit longer. It

522
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: took a stress off the parents me being around. But

523
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: the second part of the conflict would be, oh, when

524
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: y'all might end up in a dating relationship with each

525
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: other and you might get pregnant. So every time there

526
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: was a decent situation for me to build a strong

527
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: partnership with with kids who did have parents, it always

528
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: turned into it being you know, let me cut this

529
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: short because there's another conflict that can arise out of this,

530
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: which at that time, I wasn't even having sex having right,

531
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: But I wasn't having sex right, So that's what ended

532
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: up happening. Yo, Niggas is trash man, I'm telling you

533
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: people are just trashed. But I'm telling you two girls, yeah,

534
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: so sad. But because of you always hearing that you

535
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: thought that pregnancy was the key to not being homeless,

536
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. I thought pregnancy was going to fix me

537
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: not having to pick my bags up, and it was

538
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: only a bag. Like when you are desperate and you

539
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: do not want to sleep outside and you do not

540
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: want to eat chicken out the trash can for that night.

541
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: You are like, look, what is gonna solve this problem?

542
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: Don't nobody want me? Okay, maybe I need to get

543
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: pregnant because if I'm pregnant, people will sympathize with me

544
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: more and it won't be so quick to put me

545
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: out their house. Right. Wow, that's adultified. Right. So you

546
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: had your baby and he was taking your baby to

547
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: see in your purse, and I thought this was crazy.

548
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,479
Speaker 1: How the school counselor was telling you to drop out

549
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: get your g e D. But you wasn't even a

550
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: d yet. And that's I wasn't. I wasn't. I wasn't

551
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: even old enough. The unregistered myself out of school. So

552
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: less than ten days after I had my kid, I

553
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: was sued by the State of Texas. I think I

554
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: had like my kid, I want to say, ten days

555
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: in less than thirty days. So I had justin at

556
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: ten ten oh three, I turned uh sixteen October thirty

557
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: of and then eleven oh five is when I was

558
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: sued by the state of Texas. So I wasn't even

559
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: a mom for thirty days and here it is, I'm

560
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: sued by the state of Texas. So how did you

561
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: get out of that situation and transition into the strip club. Well,

562
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: that's the thing. I didn't get out of that situation.

563
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: That's how I ended up in a strip club. So

564
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: once once the lawsuit happened, I mean, I didn't have

565
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: an attorney, I was an the doctor, I was treating

566
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: like an at I wasn't taken into foster care again.

567
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: As a miner with a child old, I was treated

568
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: like a mother, and I was victimizing my child. Mm hmmm.

569
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: My child was listened as a victim the entire time.

570
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Do you see what I'm saying? And so

571
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: I was listened as a mother, but my child was

572
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: listed as a victim. Yo. It's crazy how they treat

573
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: black women, men, or just black girl if you was

574
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:31,959
Speaker 1: a different race, right right. I think what is insiduous

575
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: was at that particular time, which I didn't know anything

576
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: about having conservative views, was that being judged against conservative

577
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: views when I didn't grow up in a conservative household.

578
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: M hmm. And and that's the reason why we need

579
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: judges that look like us, because a lot of us

580
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: do not grow with conservative views. I knew, I knew,

581
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: I knew nothing about a conservative view. Absolutely nothing. I

582
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: knew nothing about a man raising his daughter, whether it

583
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: was black or white. I do absolutely nothing about that.

584
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: I knew that white girls grew up with in the

585
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: two parent households, right, but I did not know what

586
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: the extent of her being raised, her being reared by

587
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: her parents. I just knew that she had both parents.

588
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: Whereas I'm a black girl, I know that I'm either

589
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: gonna have one other other or neither. And in my case,

590
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: I had none of I had no grandmother, no mother,

591
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: no father. I was an orphan. And here it is,

592
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: I'm an orphan standing in court with and like I said,

593
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: it's not a white black issue because black people are

594
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: conservative and I absolutely love and I'm conservative today. But

595
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: I'm standing in court as an orphan, and I'm being

596
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: measured by the justice system by somebody's conservative views of

597
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: how they think I should have been raised as a

598
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: young girl. And that's not the way I grew up.

599
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: So I feel like I was punished by somebody's opinion

600
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: about how I should have been raised and what my

601
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: life should have been like before I had even got

602
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: a chance to experience life. So at that that and

603
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: I know it's true because that helped me to understand

604
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: why the judge made his decisions about the future of

605
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: my life because there was no expectancy. There was not

606
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: an expectancy for me to get my children back. My

607
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: requirement was to get a g D, find a job,

608
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: to get a big a bank account and put money

609
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: in it, because I needed to prove that I could

610
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: be fi dociarily responsible for my kids. Right and to him,

611
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 1: to him, he was already a statistic right. Right, I

612
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,959
Speaker 1: was already a statistic right. There was no coming back

613
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: from that. I mean that expected why I didn't have

614
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: a right. It explains why I didn't have an attorney. Um,

615
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: it explains why d psn't asked for me to have

616
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: an attorney. You know, I didn't have an airline. Nobody

617
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: worked my case, nobody, you know what I mean? Like,

618
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: there were a lot of things done wrong, Um in

619
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: my situation. I don't. I don't think that the expectation

620
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: was was for me to be successful in that situation.

621
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: I think that I just made a bad situation successful

622
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: mm hmm. Facts. Now, how are you introduced to the

623
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: strip club? So, my home girl, why do you why

624
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: do you start smelling? Because I'm addicted to it. I'm

625
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: addicted to the strip club. There's no I have to

626
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: stay away from him and the erie to me now.

627
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 1: But I let me tell you something, And I had

628
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: the best time in the strip club. I will not

629
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: lie about that. Sin is always so much fun. I

630
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: love my singing. I love I said, and I'm not

631
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: saying it to brag on that. What I'm saying is

632
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want people to just feel like,

633
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: you know, I'm embarrassed about what it was that I

634
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: went through. I didn't. I didn't ask for the strip club.

635
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 1: That was what was impressed upon me, because it was

636
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: it was a way out. And when you are not

637
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: an independent person, you're automatically codependent. You were allied on

638
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: other people's ideas to facilitate the future of your life,

639
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: and that slavery. And I thought my home girl would

640
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: have been the best person to be able to advise

641
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: me because she had already had two children, and she

642
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: was already she was already stable. He was that statistical

643
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: anomaly that was that that was presentable to a court.

644
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,919
Speaker 1: Here's my home girl, got two kids, she's in church,

645
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: she's doing well, and that's what it appeared to be

646
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: and then I started thinking, oh, I only have to

647
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: do this based on appearance. Let me just make this

648
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: stuff look good on paper. And they really got to

649
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: be like this, you know, behind closed door. You know,

650
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: you start coming up with all of these different analogies,

651
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 1: and y'all gotta remember I was a kid. I was

652
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: a kid trying to protect my kid, and I never

653
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: knew what it was like for myself to be protected.

654
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: My mama never protected me, right, right, So I'm trying

655
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: to figure it. I'm trying to figure life out for

656
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: me and this kid who doesn't deserve this bullshit and

657
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: who doesn't deserve to be separating from his mom. Mm hmm.

658
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: That's all I knew. All I knew was I ain't

659
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: gonna be like my mama. Right. My mama dropped off

660
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: the school in the eighth grade. I dropped out of

661
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: school in the tenth grade. There's a lot of things

662
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: I thought I wasn't gonna be like my mama, and

663
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: that I ended up being just like my mother. And

664
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 1: mm hmmm, I'll go ahead, No, no, I'm listening, No, no,

665
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: I was gonna say. I also read that her mother

666
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: passed away and she too was a survivor of human trafficking, right,

667
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: I could wish I could say that she survived. She

668
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: was actually murdered by um um, the guy who was

669
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: pimping her out and stuff for drugs, because my mother

670
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: was addicted to crack. Okay, m hm. And my mother

671
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: was the type of mother she would always tell you

672
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: the truth. She did chicken cold things. She looked you

673
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: in your face and she'll say, you know what, I

674
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 1: love crack one, and I love you, and I don't

675
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: think it's a good decision for you too, you know, uh,

676
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: not necessarily following the footsteps, but but to try to

677
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 1: uh redeem me or you know, trying to take me

678
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: away from it, because I'm going to choose crack. This

679
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: is where I'm at. And I knew that about my mother.

680
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 1: I said to that about my mother, and it's okay,

681
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: And that's one of the things, okay, No, I was

682
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: just saying that, that's one of the things that help

683
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: me to survive human trafficking. I mean, because at the

684
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: end of the day, you're born looking like your mother

685
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: and your father, but you die looking like your decisions

686
00:38:54,360 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: mm hmm. And and my preachesses come on, damn that's

687
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: a fact. And I had to think about, you know,

688
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: when I started having children, especially when I started having children,

689
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 1: a boy my dawns by to me and I was

690
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: trying to I had to think about, you know, and

691
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 1: I was having boys too. I was like, I had

692
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: to think about how I want to die, how do

693
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 1: I want to leave my children? What memory do I

694
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: want my children to leave with me? And you know

695
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,240
Speaker 1: about their mother and stuff. Because when my mother passed,

696
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: you know, I got a phone call from Harris County

697
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 1: asking me to Hers County and hp D. I worked

698
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: at the county at the time. HPD asked me to identify,

699
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: you know, my my mother, that my mother was, who

700
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: my mother was, and all it was was bones. My

701
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: mother had already been buried in the papers uh cemetery

702
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 1: meaning meaning somebody who who who didn't have any money

703
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: and who didn't have any family, and on my mother's

704
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: tombstone and says unknown from her birthday to her depth day.

705
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 1: M hm. And that's how my mother is remembered. It's

706
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: like she was never even here unknown And so that's

707
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: how I came up with that theory. And I was like,

708
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: you know what, yep, no, when when I die, it's

709
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: gonna be a great death. It's gonna be a great

710
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out strong, and my children are gonna

711
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: know me, My children gonna remember me, and my children

712
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: be able to have a headstone that says that the

713
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: mother was here and who that mother was, and and

714
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: who who is survived by her, and they will be

715
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: proud of who their mother is. That was important to me,

716
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,919
Speaker 1: right facts. I feel like also what your home girl

717
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: did was she recruited you because I remember watching one

718
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: of your interviews and you said that human trafficking starts

719
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 1: with recruitment, exploctations and fraud. Right, oh look at you,

720
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 1: not then my homeworks us Now come on now, yes,

721
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: get yeah, absolutely so my mother and listen, my she's

722
00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: my sister and I love her. Yeah, she's my sister

723
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: and I love her. You know, I don't think that

724
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: she knew she was being pimped out. M hmm, okay.

725
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: I think that the guy who was older than the

726
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: both of us just saw an advantage. He took He

727
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: took an advantage, He saw an opportunity, and he took

728
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: advantage of the situation. You know, it was you know,

729
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: I had work in the strip club. And all I'm

730
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: doing is wagers said, I work at this, won't take

731
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: my ID go work in another one, because back then

732
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: you could do that. There was no checks and balances.

733
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: Today though, because of what happened to me, there's e

734
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: verified Seeing now you got to put your right driver's license,

735
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: social and your birth certificate in the system. So the

736
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: strip club has to hire the same way McDonald's and

737
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: everybody else highed. You gotta go to verify so that

738
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,240
Speaker 1: the ship that happened to me, it can't happen nowhere.

739
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: So you can't go working one strip club and then

740
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: be working in another strip club. But then they don't

741
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: know that you were. They're both of them. Mm hmm.

742
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying, because back then you just

743
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: you just filled out a piece of paper and as

744
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: long as you was cool with somebody, you could get

745
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: in the door. Right that was it. Mm hmm. And

746
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: I worked at Gigs Cabaret. I worked at at and

747
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: Nicole Smiths Uh strip club where she got found at.

748
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: Oh rich man, man, you come on, come on, okay,

749
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: but you know and rich white men are. Let me

750
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: tell you something about rich white men. I would have

751
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: been around enough of them to know that they are

752
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: some of the most informative people you will ever meet

753
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 1: in your life. They are so helpful, they are happy

754
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: to teach you what you need to know. Oh man,

755
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: they want you to know. They want you to have

756
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: a better life. That's what's so fucking crazy about all

757
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: of this. But because people, I know when people are

758
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: listening to me talk, they listen at my story. But

759
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 1: not one time if I ever said anything bad about

760
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: my jawns except for the ones that I got pregnant by,

761
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: because that's bullshit. It's bullshit to expect. And I understand

762
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 1: the abortion laws today because listen, I am a pro

763
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: life And that's why the funk I have eight children. Okay,

764
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: I don't believe they killing kids. Don't kill them. I

765
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: don't care how they got here. Don't kill kids. That's

766
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: where I'm at. Talk about me. I don't give a funk.

767
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: But that's why I'm mad. I had all my kids.

768
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: What what I don't what I what I am against

769
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: is forcing girls to co parent with abusers. There's gonna

770
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: have to be some type of logical um sentiment, some

771
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: some type of legislative formation two two I mean to

772
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 1: coexist for somebody to be able to have to coexist.

773
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,720
Speaker 1: That's gonna have to be a formality in the family code,

774
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: whether you're in Texas, California, Florida. I mean, like, I

775
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: don't give a funk where you at. Where the girl

776
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: who is having a baby by the abuser is not

777
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: forced to compare with them, that has to be some

778
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:23,959
Speaker 1: type of limited, limited purview on parentage, how much that parent,

779
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: how much interaction and things like that, because you know,

780
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: I didn't kill myself and that was fortunately for me,

781
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: but I know some survivors who would kill themselves just

782
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: so that they don't have to look at their abuser anymore,

783
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: or kill they child or kill the child. Yeah, I mean,

784
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: it is what it is. And I think that's one

785
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 1: thing that that the law has not considered. And I'm

786
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: really really asking them, especially this legislative session, because we

787
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: are until I'm in Texas. Guys, that's listening when I

788
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: a legislators, and and that's something that that's you know,

789
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: gonna be put on the table um because we don't abort,

790
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: which is fine, but we're gonna have to have some

791
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 1: type of some type of just curve, you know, for

792
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: how these girls have their parents. You're fifteen year old

793
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: daughter gets pregnant by somebody who raped her, or by

794
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: somebody who pimped her out. You ain't gonna wanna see

795
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: that nigga, right, You ain't gonna want that nigga have

796
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 1: your address. You ain't gonna want him to come pick

797
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: that your grand baby up. You're not gonna want none

798
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: of that, right, And so we we we have to

799
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 1: consider the new family dynamics and how to deal with

800
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: toxic family bonds. Hmm. I mean, because that's the truth

801
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: right now, once you start trusting the situation with you

802
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: being in the strip club and your friend put you

803
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: on her boyfriend did tell as you that you can't

804
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: have your baby back until you started paying him two

805
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: hundred dollars a day, right, because I wasn't giving him

806
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: enough money, mainly because I was trying to meet the

807
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:11,720
Speaker 1: judges requirements of keeping the money in the bank account, okay,

808
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,479
Speaker 1: and so to my little nickel and now my money.

809
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: I was giving him what was left over, and he

810
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: wasn't having that ship. So he was like, you need

811
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: to up the anti meaning you don't even know how

812
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: profitable you are, but I do. I was young, you know,

813
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: I have my I had my titties piers my tendos

814
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 1: had been pierces. About fourteen years old. I had already

815
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: had my first tattoo, you know, I just like I

816
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: wasn't a bad kid. I had just gotten just a ship.

817
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 1: And he was looking at me like, you know, you're skinny.

818
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: You you know you you got these legs. You can

819
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 1: do it, you know, go forward and put yourself out there.

820
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: And if putting yourself out there not enough, then maybe

821
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: I need to take something from you to make you

822
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: put you know, put your hustle game on. Put you

823
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: on your A game all the time. And you know what,

824
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 1: because that na took my kids away from me. It

825
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: put me on my A game all day long. I'm

826
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: all day I'm on my A game about my motherfucking

827
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: children and and and they and they never stopped because

828
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: since then, it has always been somebody trying to take

829
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: my children or use my children against me for me

830
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: to not have them, you know what I mean. And

831
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that that was my superpower. And today

832
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: I'm one of the first cases in the state of

833
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: Texas that were suited for child support about the men

834
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: they were trafficking me because the state placed me in

835
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: the house with the man that was pimping me out,

836
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: me and my children. Mm hmmm, how is it even possible? Well,

837
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: according to court documents, they knew I was living with him. Um,

838
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: they labeled him in my documents as my paramore, in

839
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: which a paramore as P A R A M. O.

840
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: You are you guys? It is a legal term. Uh,

841
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: you use for like a side piece. Uh, during a

842
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: divorce or in marriage. Right, you would have a pair

843
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 1: more like my husband had a pair more that would

844
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: be the name of side piece. But uh, it was

845
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: it's an illicit sexual relationship, so that was listed in there.

846
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 1: I was sixteen years old. You cannot consent to sex

847
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 1: at sixteen years old. And um was just the one,

848
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: just the one that was twenty eight years old. Girl,

849
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 1: you'll do it all my business years old, that's right, right.

850
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 1: So I was born in eighty seven. So by the

851
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 1: time in two thousand and so, he had gone to

852
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,439
Speaker 1: jail for the first time in nineteen because before dp DFPS,

853
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: which the Department of Family Protective Services, before they even

854
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: place you with someone, they always do a background check, right,

855
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: everybody knows they do a background check. His background check

856
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: it's in my court documents. So he had already gone

857
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: to jail as a first time offender. In well, I'm

858
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: born in eighty seven, was six years old. Right do

859
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 1: the math, yo, these niggas child child you have listeners,

860
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: look at that niggas real sideways y'all. Don'ta be pre

861
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: judging people. Just know that this ship happens, you know,

862
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: like like it it's real and you know this this

863
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,439
Speaker 1: would happened in the early two thousands where we didn't

864
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: have any rules, regulationships and laws that governed how we

865
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: treat people and the value that we have when people did.

866
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: The government know about human trafficking, absolutely, but the term

867
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: was used for international issue. It was never a time

868
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: that was used for the America's That's why when taking

869
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: came out, the first place they placed, uh, the identifying

870
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 1: mark of human trafficking wasn't in Paris, right because they

871
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 1: happen in our backyard, right, you know. But it made

872
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: people that that was the inclusion and made people think

873
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: that it only happens and other countries that only happened

874
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: internationally or how they say the military old coon is

875
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: overseas right. So yeah, now a pimp from the club

876
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: her what was going on, and he came to protect

877
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: you from the situation with the nigger at the house.

878
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: But he was no better. But that was that that

879
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: ended up being a nigga at the house. Right, So

880
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: the pimp, so the one, the one I ended up

881
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 1: being with. That's the one who had to fight with

882
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: the dude who I was living with, my homeworld's boyfriend. Right,

883
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: he had to fight with right, Right. Okay, So this

884
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: was the guy who took you to the hotel and

885
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: told you to make some money, and he pulled the

886
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: gun out on you. This is at the point I'm

887
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: being sex traffic the first part of my story. I

888
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: was just labor traffic. I didn't have to sleep with

889
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 1: my home girl's boyfriend, but I was. I was. I

890
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 1: was doing other stuff in the club to get the money.

891
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 1: I was lying about the drinks, how much the drinks cost.

892
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: I was getting the extra money from that. Yeah, yeah, child, girl,

893
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: I'm telling you because I knew nothing about the hospitality

894
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 1: industry and how it work. I knew absolutely nothing about

895
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,280
Speaker 1: serving people and about service and about the attitude of service.

896
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: I knew absolutely nothing about it. I knew how to hustle,

897
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: I didn't care who was sucking who in the club.

898
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: But I always knew who was sucking who. Everybody trusted

899
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: me with that secret. So the champagne room, the boom

900
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: boom room, I'm your girl. I'm your girl that's gonna

901
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: look out for you. So if you need to fun

902
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: somebody in the champagne room, because you did hit a lick,

903
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: so you need to suck him up or you need

904
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: to do whatever. Well, then when he paid you your five,

905
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 1: then you need to pay me my money too. So

906
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: he get your five, you need to give me a hundred.

907
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 1: So you're gonna walk away with four because I just

908
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: made sure that you didn't get a called by the

909
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: manager and you didn't get caught by swap because we

910
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: had bus and so I made sure you was one

911
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: of the girls who always had an alibi by what

912
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,879
Speaker 1: you where you was, and what she was doing right right,

913
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: That's how I made my money. So if a girl

914
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 1: make five, I'm good. She had to make five, because

915
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: you gotta give me a hundred I got because I

916
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: just looked out exactly exactly. Now you do you do?

917
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: You do about three or for them a night? You

918
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: you come out of that making a five dollars. Right,

919
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: That's how I cut throat it is. That's that's the

920
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: that's the club, though I don't I don't know what

921
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: the club is like now, but that that was the club,

922
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: you know, for me back then. And a lot of

923
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 1: the girls, because I was in the White Girl Club,

924
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: they knew my story, like they knew what was going

925
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: on and things like that. They would always just you know,

926
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: take care of me, you know, chuck me. Some of

927
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: them would just chuck me. I was the youngest one.

928
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: I was the youngest one of trip club. I was

929
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: the baby. I was everybody's baby. Wow, So they're gonna

930
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: look out for you. Yeah, it looks out that that's out.

931
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: You were trafficing for five years and at the age

932
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: of nineteen. You mentioned earlier that you slept with men

933
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: because of this. Did you ever look at men differently? No,

934
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: I looked at I look at marriage differently though, how so,

935
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: because you know, being married requires you to blind blindly trust,

936
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: It requires you to give to something that you may

937
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: not understand. Mm hmmm. Because you gotta remember, I was

938
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: sleeping with other people's husbands. What ain't ship stopping nobody

939
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: from sleeping with my right ain't ship stopping me from

940
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: feeling what I made those other women feeling sleeping with

941
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: their husbands. Mm hmm. Okay, So don't ever think I

942
00:53:55,040 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: walk around here and and and I'm just all, uh, shore,

943
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 1: I got my ship together kind of thing. No, I

944
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: hurt for them. I'm born for them. I'm I ain't

945
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: never apologize to God so much in my life, but

946
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: I do it all then. And I'm constantly encouraging other women. Hey,

947
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,240
Speaker 1: get the bag, but don't sleep with nobody spels together

948
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 1: because if you did that, you ain't gonna keep that bad.

949
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: That's not your bag, that's his wife's bag. And you're

950
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: gonna pay because you're stealing. That's why the Bible say

951
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: this is he said my house. He said my house,

952
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a house of prayer, not a deal

953
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: of robbers and thieves. I had to think about what

954
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: the funk that meant? What you mean Lord about your

955
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: house is the house of prayer? Meaning if I need something,

956
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: then I go to the Father. That's why Jesus is

957
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: my sugar Daddy. I'm gonna go to the Father and

958
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: tell Daddy God, this is what I need, X, Y

959
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 1: and Z to No, I but I'm not gonna parting

960
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: myself against his word, meaning giving the devil the opportunity

961
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: to use to to use my life and the covenant

962
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: God with me against the kingdom. That's not authority. That's

963
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: witch crowd. And I had to understand, Okay, prostitution is

964
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: witch crafd This this is like I was going down

965
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: a deep whole. I was like, I did not God,

966
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 1: who teaching this on this level? Right? Then I had to,

967
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: you know, reconvene because revelations to every the level tells

968
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 1: you we overcome the enemy three different ways, not one way.

969
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,959
Speaker 1: It says by the power of our testimony, not loving

970
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,399
Speaker 1: life to death, and by the blood of the lamb.

971
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: And so I had to really really think about, Okay, God,

972
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna come out here and tell my story

973
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: and we're really going to do this, then people need

974
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: to be delivered. You. You can't just know my business.

975
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: To be knowing my business, you need to know how

976
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: I stay saved, how I stayed my black ass at

977
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: the strip club, how I stayed not sleeping with somebody

978
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 1: else's husband, how I stayed not selling my body but saying,

979
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: how I stayed doing exactly what I say to other

980
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 1: women to not do and that's through the word of God.

981
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm not practicing which crap. You're not gonna get me

982
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: to do with my mouth. You're not gonna get me

983
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: to do it with my body. But but I will

984
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 1: remain in a covenant contract agreement with the father because

985
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: that's what marriage is. It's about the covenant, right right,

986
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,399
Speaker 1: it is what it is. You know, that's what I said.

987
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: I was like, yea, I do a lot of things,

988
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: but I ain't missing nobody's household. Yeah, oh yeah, don't

989
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 1: do that, and don't and don't overstep your boundaries with why,

990
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: because why is a powerful why bibble says wife has

991
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 1: the authority to to get rid of unclean spirits. That's

992
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: even if it's through the husband, and even if it's

993
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: through you. I don't want nobody having that kind of

994
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: power over me. That's a lot of power, girl, not people.

995
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: I don't think why I was understand that because by

996
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: the time they find out they husband is in a

997
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,280
Speaker 1: strip club and he fell in love with a stripple.

998
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:54,399
Speaker 1: You know, a Tea Pain came up with that dumb

999
00:56:54,480 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 1: mans song, I'm in Love with a strip Say you

1000
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: love that song? Until you find your husband with some

1001
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 1: home and you're like, motherfucker, then you're gonna think about

1002
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:10,879
Speaker 1: how much you love this ship were singing. And then

1003
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 1: you gotta understand too, most of the holes that's singing

1004
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 1: a lot of these songs, they are all married and

1005
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: ship you gotta ask yourself why because coming it brings

1006
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: favor from God. You see what I'm saying. Party B

1007
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: was a hope, but that my fucking married and before

1008
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: she had our baby, she got married too, so right

1009
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: but she but but but you know what I'm saying.

1010
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: Valati's coming up and she's like that. You got a

1011
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:37,959
Speaker 1: lot of motherfucker's trying to pussy pop for a box

1012
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: of chocolate. This We do not need you pop locking

1013
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: and dropping it for the chocolates. Listen, I be telling

1014
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: these girls, especially my little young my little young sisters.

1015
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: I'll be like, listen, I said, you better stop looking

1016
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: at these girls and trying to be like thing goes.

1017
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 1: You don't know what they're doing, not at all, how

1018
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: they getting to it and what they get even up,

1019
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: I'm just getting to the money. Right. Everybody mad? Yeah,

1020
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: Like you can't be you can't be looking at what

1021
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 1: everybody is doing because they ain't your walk. Yeah, that

1022
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: ain't your no for sure, And then you know you

1023
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 1: gonta understand human trafficking covenants things like that. It is

1024
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: not the type of demon, is not the type of

1025
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: demon you want to play with. It's governed by a

1026
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: loving spirit. And I mean, and we can go on

1027
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: and on and on. Um, We'll have to bring me

1028
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: in on another episode so people can get down to

1029
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: the real nitty nitty gritty of the situation. But I

1030
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 1: would explain it to you like this, the reason why,

1031
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: the reason why stream clubs is such an illegal source

1032
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: and the reason why a lot of trafficking happens out

1033
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: of it. So the strip club is governed by two guards,

1034
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: which is the astroist and the ball right, and the

1035
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: Baba talks about this all the time. The astra was

1036
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: a female goddess, right, she was always naked, but the

1037
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: bill was resemblance of a foul write a penis or

1038
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 1: a pole. So when you get girls that get naked

1039
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: and want to strip and dance on the stage right

1040
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: on this pole, then she is the replica of the asteroisk,

1041
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: while the poll is the replica of the bout. So

1042
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 1: when you get men coming to pay money right to

1043
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: these girls because they feel like they're doing a good

1044
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: enough job. That's what they like to see. They're actually

1045
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: paying homage to these gods, but they're paying it with

1046
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: money that says in God we trust, well, which god? Motherfucker? Right,

1047
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: let's be clear. And so you got a lot of

1048
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 1: men that's in the strip club that's practicing witch classing.

1049
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 1: And they come into these clubs with you know what

1050
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 1: they would would with coving it because they're married. But

1051
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 1: then they leave with all these unclean spirits and they

1052
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 1: bring them to their wife and they wonder why they're

1053
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: having problems at home. Right, Okay, The Bible says that

1054
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 1: the power of life and depth is in the tongue.

1055
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: When you think on you think would come out your mouth,

1056
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: But people forget they wear fucking shoes and then your shoe.

1057
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: That's a little piece in the fucking shoe that's called

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Speaker 1: a tongue. So it ain't just about what the funk

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Speaker 1: you say, it's about where the funk you go to. Right,

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Speaker 1: You bring that ship right back home. You bring that

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Speaker 1: ship right back home, right,