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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. We are experiencing technical difficulties.

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Speaker 2: This is the Bobby Cast. Welcome to episode five twenty three.

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Speaker 2: She's a living legend. She's a country queen. She's a philanthropist.

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Speaker 2: She is a rock star.

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Speaker 3: I mean, she's in the Rock and Roll Hall of

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Speaker 3: Fame because she said no to it, didn't she end

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Speaker 3: up saying yes to it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but she wanted to do a rock album in

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Speaker 4: order to get in. She's like, I feel like I

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Speaker 4: need to do a rock album to get into it.

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Speaker 2: So is she in then now?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Okay, because I know she said no, don't vote for me,

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Speaker 3: and then she said, Okay, I'll do that rock album.

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Speaker 4: And then I'll go in.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know if she was put in then

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Speaker 3: because I never got to vote for her, and I'm

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Speaker 3: a voting member. Let's see, unless it was before. So

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Speaker 3: I sat down with her, and I sat down with her.

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Speaker 3: This has been a bit because she agreed to be

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Speaker 3: in My comedy special which aired on CMT, and it

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Speaker 3: was really cool that she agreed to do it, and

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Speaker 3: she voiced the opening of it, she voiced the closing

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Speaker 3: of it. We did some interview segments in the middle

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Speaker 3: that was kind of about what I was talking about

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Speaker 3: in my comedy special. And so I went and sat

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Speaker 3: with her, and I just haven't put it out because

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Speaker 3: I had used it for that and I didn't kind

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Speaker 3: of want to get it mixed up, and she was

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Speaker 3: so kind to do it. But I had this, you know,

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Speaker 3: basically half hour with her that I thought was really cool.

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Speaker 2: What do you have?

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Speaker 3: She was inducted in twenty twenty two, the year before. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I started voting before. My votes really were instrumental. And

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Speaker 3: who made the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? So

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Speaker 3: you weren't with us when we recorded this.

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Speaker 2: I was there for this one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah you can, yeah, Scoop Steve.

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Speaker 3: Oh good, it's in her big warehouse. Awesome makes me

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Speaker 3: feel better than because I don't remember really. I remember

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Speaker 3: going and doing it, but my mind was on. I

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Speaker 3: got to get to certain places because I know all I

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Speaker 3: want to use it in special, So I don't even

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Speaker 3: know what we really talked about.

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Speaker 4: That whole thing is fascinating just going in there and

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Speaker 4: seeing like how much they do out of that location

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Speaker 4: and like, oh, you mean her facility, she's like a

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Speaker 4: weal old machine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a facility.

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Speaker 4: With.

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Speaker 3: It's weird to say multiple rooms, but this building is

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Speaker 3: so big, it's like multiple areas that feel like different

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Speaker 3: warehouses that they do different. If it's like Home Shopping Network,

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Speaker 3: if it's like shooting a TV show, if it's what

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Speaker 3: we did. We set up for a full interview with

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like I've never been on a movie studio

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Speaker 4: a lot, but that's what it felt like.

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Speaker 2: It kind of feel like that. So I did this.

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Speaker 2: It was Dollie and I a one on one.

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Speaker 3: We talked about and you'll hear the roots, the artists

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Speaker 3: who inspired her, the drive that she still has, which

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Speaker 3: is crazy. She's done at all, yet she still has

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Speaker 3: the drive. She gives me marriage advice. Her and her

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Speaker 3: husband were married for fifty nine years. Sadly KRLDI and

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Speaker 3: her husband passed away back in March, so always thinking

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Speaker 3: about Dolly and her family. But that was recorded a

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Speaker 3: while ago, way before that happened. So we're talking about

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Speaker 3: it and you're like, man, Bob's kind of not even

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Speaker 3: addressing that he died.

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Speaker 2: This is way before that. Dolly's a busy lady.

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Speaker 3: She got a new book that came out called Star

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Speaker 3: of the Show My life on stage, but that doesn't

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Speaker 3: come out to November, right, Yeah?

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Speaker 2: This year, yeah, okay, the Country.

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Speaker 3: Music Hall of Fame and Museum will debut Dolly Parton

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Speaker 3: Journey of a Seeker, and that is already out because

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Speaker 3: I saw her doing the press conference for it is out.

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Speaker 3: She also partnered with Good American to launch Joe Leane's

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Speaker 3: for Sure a gene Right, Joe Lene's that's the greatest name.

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Speaker 3: I bet she's written so many songs. You can probably

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Speaker 3: do so many products just off the twist of the

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Speaker 3: song names Dollywood's fortieth anniversary, which, by the way, I

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Speaker 3: saw was just voted the number one theme park again

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Speaker 3: in America.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I've never been of you.

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Speaker 3: No, I've never been. My wife is asked to go

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Speaker 3: like three times. It's not like I get to say

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Speaker 3: yes or no. But we've made like we'll both suggest

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Speaker 3: somewhere to go for vacation, and that's been on her

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Speaker 3: list three times in a row.

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Speaker 2: We have not done it.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, it was seeing a name number one that maybe

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Speaker 4: want to go for the first time, like Man, which

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Speaker 4: could really.

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Speaker 2: Be good Man.

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Speaker 3: We are really influenced. So this is my conversation with you.

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Speaker 3: One and the only Dolly parton.

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Speaker 5: Dolly, I Love You. I want to leave with that.

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Speaker 6: Set that the.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, especially now I think we've been there we all

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Speaker 3: love you, so a question.

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Speaker 5: I want to set it up first.

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Speaker 3: I have a story that I do in my act

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Speaker 3: where I talk about people that show up whenever you

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Speaker 3: really can't. They're to offer you something but nothing in return.

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Speaker 5: And I talk about Lionel.

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Speaker 3: Richie and how I was freaking out one day because

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Speaker 3: Ryan secrets he got sick and had to miss Idol,

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Speaker 3: so I had to go host it with like four

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Speaker 3: minutes before the show starts. He's never missed an episode

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Speaker 3: and here I am. And it's not that I can't

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Speaker 3: big part about it. And I talked about how Lionel

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Speaker 3: got to get back to his seat too, and just

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Speaker 3: gives me this real hey man, hands on the shoulders.

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Speaker 5: You can do this. The commodorees did this. He didn't

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Speaker 3: Like Lionel Richie's is famous, nice as cool as could be.

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Speaker 3: He didn't have to do that. And so I talk

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Speaker 3: I say a story like that to you, who comes

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Speaker 3: to mind that did not have to be there for you?

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Speaker 5: But was there?

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Speaker 6: Well, so many people. I actually have more than one

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Speaker 6: in my early days, my uncle Bill, who's the one

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Speaker 6: and even when my daddy didn't even want me to go,

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Speaker 6: that didn't have to do it. He just saw that

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Speaker 6: that was my dream of my bazare. But there are

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Speaker 6: and she said, Dolly, you're a right pretty girl. And

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Speaker 6: it seemed like you got, you know, a lot of

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Speaker 6: talent because I've heard some of your songs. She said,

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Speaker 6: But don't let anybody ever tell you that you need

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Speaker 6: You just be you. And she said, and don't let

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Speaker 6: none of these old hairy legged boys try to make

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Speaker 6: because you can be whatever you want to be. And

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Speaker 6: she didn't have to do that. But she saw that

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Speaker 6: I was about to do my number and she did

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Speaker 6: not want me to get caught up, and like some

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Speaker 6: needed to do to get a break, but she saw

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Speaker 6: something else in me. But she just said, don't do it.

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Speaker 6: You just be you and believe in your talent and

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Speaker 5: Why do you think she did that because.

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Speaker 6: She's a good person. Like you said, people that are

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Speaker 6: good tend to do good things. And I think that

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Speaker 6: was probably Lioneld's good heart that saw that he had

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Speaker 3: We went to Italy, my wife and I and I'm

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Speaker 5: So now that we'll older get to do some cool stuff.

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Speaker 3: And we go and they would have Italian music on

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Speaker 3: we went, and three of the four places they turned

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Speaker 3: on your music when we walked in. They assume every American,

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Speaker 3: and it's probably right, loves Dolly Parton.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm sure every American don't. Yeah, I'm sure there's

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Speaker 6: a lot of people that slapped me upside of here,

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Speaker 6: but I don't want to hear about them. It's a

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Speaker 6: great confident. But see, I've been at this a long time,

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Speaker 6: and I've been famous in Europe for years and years

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Speaker 6: and years because of the songs that I used to

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Speaker 6: related to that. They knew that I was brought up

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Speaker 6: a mountain Cinderella's story, and people related to my music,

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Speaker 6: and so therefore they related to me. And then when

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Speaker 6: wasn't uncommon. A lot of my music was playing more

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Speaker 6: from my early records. But it's nice to be loved

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Speaker 3: I was impasta your music, though, That's what everywhere most

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Speaker 3: or in a pasta.

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Speaker 6: And all, what does that make you happy? Was you

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Speaker 6: trying to get out of the country.

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Speaker 3: No, it made me feel like I was at home,

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Speaker 3: which is great set on my show. I have a

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Speaker 3: couch and a couple of lamps, and really that's it

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Speaker 3: because when I grew up in this we grew up

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Speaker 5: I never had a bedroom.

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Speaker 3: My whole life, I saw on the couch and so

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Speaker 3: my closet was underneath my couch and it was literally

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Speaker 3: everything was on the couch. Never had a bedroom, and

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Speaker 3: so that was what it was like though for me,

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Speaker 3: growing up in its small house with a lot of

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Speaker 3: people around. Your story similar ish you're from a small

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Speaker 5: What was home like for you growing up?

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Speaker 6: Well, home was like full. There was a lot of

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Speaker 6: kids we had. Mama had one kid on her and

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Speaker 6: one kid in her as long as I can remember,

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Speaker 6: one on her hip and want to grow in in

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Speaker 6: But we lived in the in the house you know

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Speaker 6: run and get it, and you know, we just kind

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Speaker 6: of washed in a wash pan. And people said, how

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Speaker 6: six girls in my family ultimately, I mean after we

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was gonna ask you still crave it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think I just was seeking love, Like I think

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Speaker 5: Because I already kind of had my ways wired. It

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Speaker 6: Well, yeah, does she have her ways?

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Speaker 5: Word?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean I feel like I'm way more wired though,

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Speaker 3: I'm almost twelve years older than her, so it's not

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Speaker 5: I'm trying to not be that way.

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Speaker 6: But no, don't you not be let her change? Don't

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Speaker 5: I've never heard anyone advice, Jane. I've never heard anyone

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Speaker 6: You know what, I've been with my husband for fifty

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Speaker 6: I think that word is better about adapting than it

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna take her that clip though of you saying

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Speaker 5: Alex, Well, I don't think you need to.

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Speaker 6: I don't know what he's like at home. I ain't her,

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Speaker 3: That similarity that I think. Your husband not known for

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Speaker 6: Oh my husband hates it. He don't, he never was.

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Speaker 5: So how do you what was that balance?

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Speaker 3: Because we struggle with that now because I, again, I

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Speaker 5: She does not want it at all. How did you

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Speaker 6: Well, my husband was a homebody and he's very he's

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Speaker 6: Those are compatible signs if you go, if you put

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Speaker 7: And I loved you who.

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Speaker 6: It wasn't being left alone to do it, and so

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Speaker 6: then you got to find some new things so you

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Speaker 5: They are who they trying.

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Speaker 3: To make her be what I want to be. But

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Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying. You can't make anybody change. You've

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Speaker 6: And you couldn't live with me and my husband.

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Speaker 3: Well I will use this in court when I show

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So, uh but it's not easy, uh no matter we've

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Speaker 5: Do you guys have it?

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Speaker 3: Just an example about my wife and I usually don't

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Speaker 3: But I really try hard not to do three in

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Speaker 5: Little bench marks and pillars. Did you guys have any

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Speaker 3: So you didn't get lost because my time management skills

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Speaker 6: Well, I hadn't become a star when I met my husband,

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Speaker 6: and I just came here to be one and he

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Speaker 5: She did? I think though?

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Speaker 3: When we we dated pre COVID for six eight months

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Speaker 6: Well, that's when you get to know some you know

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Speaker 5: With him, You got a pooper close to them, you

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Speaker 6: That's so well, that's when you know who you really are.

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Speaker 5: And that's how I knew I loved her. But then

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Speaker 6: Don't you blame her faults on COVID? So you both

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Speaker 5: Oh, it's all me. I've also learned that. So she said, right,

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Speaker 5: it's all yes, I've learned. It's all mean, it's not

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Speaker 3: I have to apologize for what she doesn't, for what

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Speaker 5: That's the thing. Now, Like he says about dream, something

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Speaker 6: I better take a long or I will say too bad.

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Speaker 3: Well you about fame, Like, what is it fame? H?

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Speaker 6: Well, I guess the word fame is after you. I

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Speaker 6: is you know, money as that whoever said it? Money

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Speaker 6: You know, it's like you've got to But fame, I

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Speaker 6: guess that just means you've made it and there you are,

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Speaker 6: at it like that. So it's what I guess what

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00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:32,280
Speaker 6: you tag it too. I feel like I'm famous meaning everybody.

443
00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,440
Speaker 6: I think fame means that everybody knows who you are.

444
00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:39,040
Speaker 6: You know, you're famous because everybody knows your name and

445
00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,840
Speaker 6: you you know they'll see you on TV. But that

446
00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,360
Speaker 6: still doesn't should not make you a different person?

447
00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:47,920
Speaker 5: Or does it make you more of who you kind

448
00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,240
Speaker 5: of really are?

449
00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:55,400
Speaker 3: Since you have access and since you have resources, does

450
00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:56,840
Speaker 3: fame success make.

451
00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,439
Speaker 5: You more of who you originally are? And word you think?

452
00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,960
Speaker 6: I think so? I'd like to think so. In my case,

453
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,080
Speaker 6: it does because I've never been a diva. I've never

454
00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:09,320
Speaker 6: you know, I'm thankful that I'm successful. I always wanted

455
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,320
Speaker 6: to have money. I wrote a song called Sacrifice, and

456
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,400
Speaker 6: it says I was going to be rich no matter

457
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,760
Speaker 6: how much it took. See, I was going to be

458
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:20,679
Speaker 6: rich no matter how much it costs. And I was

459
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,119
Speaker 6: going to win no matter how much I lost, you know,

460
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,880
Speaker 6: And that to me, those two lines. You know, it's

461
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,680
Speaker 6: like if you're willing to sacrifice all through the years,

462
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,720
Speaker 6: I kept my eye on the prize, you know, and

463
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,240
Speaker 6: you ask if it's worth the sacrifice, but you don't.

464
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,240
Speaker 6: You know, it's like an empty or full you know.

465
00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,160
Speaker 6: I've carried my pail, but you don't drink the water,

466
00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,720
Speaker 6: if you don't dig the well. You know, it's like

467
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,480
Speaker 6: all those things. I think that I'm the same person

468
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 6: I always was. I'm just more relaxed now. I'm more

469
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,679
Speaker 6: comfortacause I can afford it to be That's what you

470
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,159
Speaker 6: were saying. I can afford to be myself. Just like

471
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 6: when I started cutting, I had to wait. I never

472
00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,480
Speaker 6: could make money big money sing and I love bluegrass.

473
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 6: And so when I did my bluegrass that and I

474
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 6: said I had to get rich in order to sing

475
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 6: like you know, and it's like you kind of you know,

476
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 6: you can look at things like that, but I guess

477
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 6: everybody has their own version of what they think fame

478
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 6: and stardom is. I'm a celebrity. But all those words

479
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 6: like celebrity, star, you know, and fame, they're just words

480
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,400
Speaker 6: to tag the people that hopefully that have become successful

481
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 6: and what they're best at. And if you're like I said,

482
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,359
Speaker 6: if you're a true success, that means you should be

483
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:36,360
Speaker 6: able to enjoy it.

484
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 5: Do you enjoy it? Yeah?

485
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 6: Well, when I quit being able to enjoy it, I'm

486
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:43,119
Speaker 6: gonna quit altogether.

487
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:43,920
Speaker 4: Now.

488
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 6: There are times I get stressed out because there's so

489
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 6: much you have to do that you just get you know,

490
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,120
Speaker 6: you're just burnt out, you just beat. Then you think

491
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 6: all kinds of things, well and you know, maybe it's time,

492
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 6: you know, maybe I should do this and do that.

493
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,680
Speaker 6: But I mean, you're up the next more to think

494
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 6: about something you want to go do. You can't help it.

495
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 6: If that's who you are. You know, I suck my song.

496
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 6: I wrote a song called whatever you are, be that,

497
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 6: whatever you do, do that, because anything else is just

498
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 6: an act. So whoever you are, be that. So if

499
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,399
Speaker 6: you're a comedian, be that, if you're a DJ, be that.

500
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,239
Speaker 6: You know, whatever you are, that's true to you, and

501
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 6: that's how you express yourself. We don't have to make

502
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 6: ourselves over or allow somebody else to make us over.

503
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 6: We need to be who we are and find ways

504
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 6: to make that work force.

505
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 3: I found that if I lie or fabricate a story,

506
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 3: it's not that I'm too good for I just can't

507
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,399
Speaker 3: remember it all the time, so I try not to.

508
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:40,880
Speaker 5: So I don't.

509
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 3: I just try to tell the truth and be as

510
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 3: honest as I can, not because I'm too good to lie,

511
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 3: because I would love to lie and remember it because

512
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 3: this is more entertaining, but I can't remember.

513
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,439
Speaker 5: It, so I stay honest. With you.

514
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 3: I feel like that's been a big part of who

515
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 3: you are, is just honesty.

516
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,880
Speaker 5: At all costs. Was that always the idea with you?

517
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,360
Speaker 6: Well, I don't know. I don't think about it like that.

518
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 6: I always say all my lives are true. No, it's

519
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 6: like I think, sometimes you have to make excuses that

520
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 6: might turn out you like a lot of people might

521
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 6: say that that's a lie, but usually it's it's an

522
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 6: excuse you have to make. You have to bend the

523
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 6: true mostly to spare someone else's feelings for myself. Well,

524
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 6: I'm not saying a lot, is okay. I'm just saying

525
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 6: sometimes when you.

526
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 3: Say I come to your house, that's a lie. Say

527
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 3: and come to your house and live with you and

528
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 3: your husband.

529
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 5: That's a little that's a lie, right, that's my point.

530
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 6: Yes, but my good heart would allow you to if

531
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 6: you needed to.

532
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 5: Okay, if you needed.

533
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 6: To come, of course I was saying it to be funny,

534
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 6: but my good heart would welcome you into my house.

535
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 6: So that, I guess that's when you're successful, if you

536
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 6: appreciate what you've got and be able to help somebody

537
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,080
Speaker 6: else with it.

538
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 3: The album rock Star and the book Behind the Scenes,

539
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 3: like they are both so new, meaning you put new

540
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 3: songs on an album.

541
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 5: You didn't have to do that.

542
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 3: You could have just done these amazing songs with these

543
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 3: amazing artists and do your version of it. Same thing

544
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 3: with the book. It is a book of something you've

545
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 3: never released before. Your fashion and fashion. You have created

546
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 3: fashion for so many people, So why keep on pushing

547
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 3: as hard as you do?

548
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 5: Oh?

549
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 6: Why I'm not pushing, That's just I want to leave things.

550
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 6: Like we were talking earlierfore, we went on the air

551
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 6: about working so hard, but you know, I feel like

552
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 6: I got to make hay while the sunshine. I'm seventy

553
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 6: seven years old and I've done a lot in my time,

554
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 6: and I'm thankful for every bit of it. But there's

555
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,479
Speaker 6: stuff out there that I want to have my hands

556
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 6: on to be part of my legacy. I want to

557
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 6: be part of all these things that I know somebody's

558
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 6: going to cash in on when I'm dead. So why

559
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 6: not make it right? Why not do do it? And

560
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 6: why not do it great? Well? Certainly with the book.

561
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 6: You know, I had a book called Song Teller, and

562
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 6: it was all about my songwriting, Why I wrote songs,

563
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 6: How was feet on winning wrote song? What has bore them?

564
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 6: What period of you know in my life I was in?

565
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 6: And so this one is the behind the scenes, and

566
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 6: it's about who can tell my story better than me.

567
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 6: I know those feelings, I know those thoughts. I know

568
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 6: the pain and the sorrow and the joy and the

569
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 6: fun of all of it, and the people and the

570
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 6: jerks and the you know, everything that has to do

571
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 6: with my life. Nobody can guess that you might guess

572
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 6: at it, but you're not going to know. So I'm

573
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 6: doing that because I want to get as much stuff

574
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 6: out as I can, with as much quality as i can,

575
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 6: so it don't just get counterfeited when I'm dead and

576
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 6: gone and I've got my next book is going to

577
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 6: be Giving Star of the Show. It's like a three,

578
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 6: you know, the song Teller, uh, behind the scenes, and

579
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 6: the UH the one I'm calling the Star of the Show,

580
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 6: which is the name of one of my songs, And

581
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 6: it's about my life on the road, the musicians, the travel,

582
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 6: the hotels, the craziness and all this stuff. So I

583
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 6: want to tell those stories. I don't want somebody else

584
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 6: to tell them. But anyway, getting back to what you're saying,

585
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 6: I'm the kind of person I have to be busy

586
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 6: and I can tell and you're the same way. I

587
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 6: got a lot of energy, and if I didn't use

588
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 6: that to be creative, I'd just turn that in on

589
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 6: myself and that'd be dangerous, or I'd turn it in

590
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 6: on somebody else that would be worse. So I think

591
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 6: that if you're creative and you have these thoughts, you

592
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 6: have to just keep on doing it, and you know

593
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 6: it's like, I can't even imagine just quitting. That's why

594
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 6: I say I'll never retire. I might have to quit

595
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 6: if my husband got sick and I need to be

596
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 6: with him, and if I needed if I was ill.

597
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 6: You know, it would have to be a serious illness.

598
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 6: You know, i'd have to you know, I'd still be

599
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 6: writing if my right arm worked. You know, if my

600
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 6: arms work, I could still write. But I just want

601
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 6: to do everything I can because it won't always be

602
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 6: this way. I won't always have this opportunity. And God's

603
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 6: been good to me and people are being good to me,

604
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 6: and I get scared sometimes when everybody tries to put

605
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 6: me on some sort of a pedestal. I think, God,

606
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 6: don't put me up there. All you can do is

607
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 6: to knock me off. You know, I'm not all that,

608
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 6: you know. I talk about things like I'm not an angel.

609
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 6: I just play one on TV and that's the truth.

610
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 6: So I'm a lot of things. But when I try

611
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 6: to be mostly is a good person and try to

612
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 6: be creative and try to be good to others.

613
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 5: Final three questions.

614
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 3: I have a lot of people that will be watching this,

615
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 3: and they're watching because they want to laugh and have

616
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 3: a good time, but hopefully to be inspired to just

617
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 3: you know, commit to being better.

618
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 5: If it's a mom, if it's a dad.

619
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 3: Or a better fireman, or a bank or work at

620
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 3: a bank, and it's just committing to it. And a

621
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 3: lot of people have trouble just committing to it because

622
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,719
Speaker 3: of the fear of failure. And I have to imagine

623
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 3: that someone that has all these successes, as yourself, has

624
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 3: had a fair share of pretty big failures too.

625
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 5: Well.

626
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 6: We all have failures, but you don't look at it

627
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 6: like that if you're a smart person. Because even just

628
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 6: like when I had my variety show years ago, it

629
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 6: was entitled to be going to be this or that,

630
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 6: and I got a ton of money for it, which

631
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 6: they had to pay before it anyway, even though it

632
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 6: didn't last. But you know, I was disappointed that it

633
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 6: didn't work. But it didn't work for all the reasons

634
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 6: I knew it wasn't going to work when we started it.

635
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 6: I wasn't me. I couldn't be me. They were trying

636
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 6: to revamp the old variety shows, and I'm you know,

637
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 6: I'm just a one kind of person. I'm just me.

638
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 6: And if we can work off of me, I can

639
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 6: make it successful. But if I try to go outside

640
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 6: of my comfort zone, I never can make it work.

641
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 6: But I learned so much about that show. Learn you

642
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 6: learned what you should. Not look at it like a failure,

643
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 6: but as a stepping stone. I learned so much from

644
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 6: that of what not to do, what not to allow

645
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 6: to appen next time, that even in other shows I've

646
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 6: done since then that I've produced or worked in, I've

647
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 6: learned from that. So everything is something you can learn from.

648
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:15,239
Speaker 6: It's just a stepping stone. And so I'm even you know,

649
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 6: I really am almost glad that it didn't work because

650
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 6: I didn't want to continue. I was under stress with

651
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 6: it because I wasn't happy doing that. So as it was,

652
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 6: I could have still been on there if they'll let

653
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 6: me know, do more of what you know who I am.

654
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 6: But we all have those things in our lives, and

655
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 6: we're all you know, it takes a while to overcome it.

656
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 6: You know, you're embarrassed by certain things and all that,

657
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 6: But if you're the right kind of talent and the

658
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 6: right kind of person, you'll just take that as a

659
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 6: good lesson, which, by the way, I'm going to do

660
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 6: a comedy album one these days. Since you were having

661
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 6: a comedy show. That's gonna be one of my next things.

662
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 6: People have always said.

663
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 3: Your songs are super funny and witty, like even the

664
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 3: ones you don't mean to be funny. Yeah, Like, what

665
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 3: what do you think the most clever line, the most

666
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 3: clever couple of rhyming line that you have in your

667
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 3: song the top of your head?

668
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 7: I just think that one.

669
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 6: I just said, you know, I was going to be

670
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 6: rich no matter how how much it costs, and I

671
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 6: was gonna I was gonna win no matter how much

672
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 6: I lost. Or one of my favorite lines in the

673
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 6: songs I've written is a cup of ambition. You know.

674
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 6: I get excited about those those kinds of things. I

675
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 6: don't know. I can't think right off the top of

676
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 6: my head, but a lot of my songs are have

677
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 6: a lot of comedy. But I don't want to do

678
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 6: a stand up comedy album some day because I like being.

679
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 5: Funny me too. I just wish I was, well, you

680
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 5: are funny.

681
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 6: I want to say you are funny and you are good,

682
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 6: and you were capable of so many things and you

683
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 6: are so like I.

684
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 3: Start crying, this is not about me.

685
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 5: I don't like comedy.

686
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 6: Let me just say a lot of those people that

687
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 6: watch this, uh you know, they'll be all over the world,

688
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 6: all over the country. But you we think of you

689
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 6: as like a local boy. And here in Nashville. I mean,

690
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 6: you're just fantastic on the radio. Everybody does love the

691
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 6: Gold Show. I mean it's like we get up to

692
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 6: do it, you know, Amy and all the all the

693
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 6: people you have on the show. But and then when

694
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 6: you go out and do some of these shows like

695
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,959
Speaker 6: American Idol and just you just have a spirit and

696
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 6: an energy and a and a little I don't know,

697
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 6: You've just got magic somehow. And I think you're good,

698
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 6: and I think you are to just be allowed to

699
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 6: be good.

700
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 5: I don't need any more questions after that. I think

701
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:39,239
Speaker 5: we're to end on that.

702
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 3: And I'm not even going to play any other other interview,

703
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 3: just that last segment over and over.

704
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 6: Well, we like you. You're a local boy to us.

705
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 5: Thank you very much. You're the best.

706
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 3: Thank you for the time and the inspiration to so

707
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,959
Speaker 3: many and for letting me find your enjoy here.

708
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 6: You got to come to mind Carl's house, and he's

709
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 6: got to give you permission.

710
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 5: You told me at the beginning had her mission. All right,

711
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 5: thank you guys. Back to you guys, there's nobody there.

712
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 5: I'm just pointing, Okay, you hang tight.

713
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: The Bobby Cast will be right back. Wow, And we're

714
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: back on the Bobby Cast.

715
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 2: So, as you can tell, Dolly is still on it.

716
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 2: Super funny.

717
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 3: So in this next part of the interview, we talked

718
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 3: about her album rock Star and how the album came

719
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 3: together because, as we talked about earlier, she wasn't gonna

720
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,239
Speaker 3: accept being a member of the Rock and Roll Hall

721
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 3: of Fame until she did a rock album, which I

722
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 3: get it, but rock and roll Hall of Fame now

723
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 3: is not really about quote unquote rock music.

724
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but to her it was, Yep, it was.

725
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 3: And now I respected the fact that she wanted to

726
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 3: do this and there were people.

727
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 2: I'll let her talk about it.

728
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 3: So she shared a few stories, and you know, I

729
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 3: was talked about the songs and how she asked certain

730
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 3: artists to come and sing on the album.

731
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 2: So here is that with Dolly parton the.

732
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 3: Songs that you chose to do, because there are just

733
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 3: so many great songs in the world, period, but you

734
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 3: chose some of my family songs of all time. And

735
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 3: I was just talking to you about I Don't let

736
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,719
Speaker 3: the Song go down on Me? Like, why did you

737
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 3: pick these songs specifically for this album?

738
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 6: Well, I picked song that I love, and I picked

739
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 6: songs that my husband loved because he's the real rock

740
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 6: and roller and he was a big inspiration for doing

741
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 6: the album. But I picked this don't let the Song

742
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 6: go down on Me because I love l John. I

743
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 6: love his singing and I love his songs, and every

744
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 6: time we get together, we were always singing together and

745
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 6: it sounded good, and so I thought, well, I'm doing

746
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 6: this song on the album in hopes that he'll sing

747
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 6: with me. So of course he said he would, and

748
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 6: so that this is a highlight on the album for

749
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 6: me because I love how he sound and that's just

750
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 6: such a good song.

751
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 3: The first time you guys sang together where how like,

752
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 3: that's just such a collision of awesomeness.

753
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 6: You know what we were the first time we ever

754
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 6: did sing together. We were behind stage, actually he did.

755
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 6: I did a song, the song Imagine years ago. I

756
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 6: was on one of my albums, and he sang it

757
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 6: with me on the CMA Awards. He played Vianna and

758
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 6: I sing it, and so backstage, though we were singing

759
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 6: all these great old country songs. He knew them, he

760
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 6: knew every country song in the world, those great songs

761
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 6: like behind Closed Doors, especially Love that Make the World

762
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 6: Go Away and all that. So we'd start singing and

763
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 6: we just sounded so good together, and we said, you

764
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 6: know what, we got to do an album together someday,

765
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 6: and we never got around to that, and we're both

766
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 6: too overstarted now talk. But but I thought, when I

767
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 6: did this song, I'm going to see if he'll sing

768
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 6: it with me, and he just was so nice, jumped

769
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 6: right at the chance, and I thought it turned out

770
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 6: pretty good.

771
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 3: With this album being a rock record and it's called

772
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 3: rock Star, I'm friends with the president of the Rock

773
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 3: and Roll Hall of Fame, and there was we want Dolly,

774
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 3: and then it was Dolly says she's not not really

775
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 3: deserving to be because she didn't do rock music. And

776
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 3: then now, I mean, to me, the Rock and Roll

777
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 3: of Fame was just if you do awesome music, like

778
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 3: rock and roll is so just synonymous with great, great music,

779
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 3: doesn't matter of the format. To me, how much of

780
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 3: that was true to where you were, like, I just

781
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 3: don't think I deserve to be in how much that

782
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 3: was kind of made up.

783
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 6: No, it was not made up because I hate controversy

784
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 6: of any kind. I don't like to be in anything

785
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 6: that said, oh they do this and you know in

786
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 6: a bad way. But when they said they were going

787
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 6: to put me in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame,

788
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 6: I thought, why not rock and Roll Hall of Fame?

789
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 6: Because I know so many people like meat Loaf and

790
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 6: some of the greatest artists of all times, and you know,

791
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 6: almost to the point, you know, almost since they get

792
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 6: almost bitter about the fact that some of the greatest

793
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 6: artists have never been in the Rock and Roll Hall

794
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 6: of Fame. And I thought that you voted on that,

795
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 6: and I thought, I am not taking votes away from

796
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 6: people for them to put me in the Hall of

797
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 6: Fame just because I was having a hot streak at

798
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 6: the time of the other things. And I didn't feel

799
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 6: right about it, and so I said, no, I didn't.

800
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 6: I thought other people, because I spent my life in country,

801
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 6: anything they give me in country, I'll take it. Oh well,

802
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 6: you know, I thought, I don't feel I deserve it

803
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 6: because I spent my life. But anyway, when they explain

804
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 6: what it was and that it's people's music that's that's

805
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 6: influenced other things. When I had a better understanding, I

806
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 6: understand more why, but I just didn't feel right about

807
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 6: it still. So I'm like my daddy, I don't want

808
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 6: nothing that's you know that I don't earn. So when

809
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 6: they put me in anyhow, I thought, well, I'd always

810
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,760
Speaker 6: thought about doing a rock album. I thought Thimmon's everything,

811
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 6: and I ain't want to miss out on Timon, so

812
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 6: I thought, well, I'm going to do it. So I

813
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 6: naked it there that night. I said I want to

814
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 6: think about doing rock and roll album. Any of you

815
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 6: want to join me, and a lot of them be yeah,

816
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 6: But no it was sincere. I wasn't making it up

817
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 6: for attention.

818
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 3: But was this album really because you've mentioned your husband

819
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 3: too being a big factor on the songs or a

820
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 3: picked for it? But was this album? Did it derive

821
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 3: from you going? Well, now I got to do a

822
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 3: rock album.

823
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 6: Kind of I felt like I needed to earn that title,

824
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 6: And now I feel like that this album is good enough.

825
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 6: Think OF's some of my best work. I chose great

826
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 6: song and I also chose great artists to sing with me,

827
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 6: and now I feel like I at least earned the

828
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 6: fact that I'm in the rubble ro all of FAMI

829
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 6: and if somebody sees my name and I say, oh yeah,

830
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 6: did you ever hear that?

831
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 5: Rock a rock star?

832
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 6: And that was the title was just tongue in cheek.

833
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 6: I just kind of like, here, I am seventy seven

834
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 6: years old, I'm going to be a rock story.

835
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 5: You know.

836
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 6: It was just I thought, well, long not, I'll leave

837
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 6: that from my legacy.

838
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 5: What was the first track you cut, because that's at

839
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 5: least the first one you knew you wanted to cut.

840
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 6: Well, I think the first one I cut was a

841
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 6: song of mine because I wanted to get comfortable. It

842
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 6: was more country flavored. It was my Blue Tears I

843
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 6: did with Simon Levon. I wrote that song when I

844
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 6: was young kid, and I'd recorded a couple of times,

845
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 6: even within the Trillo album Lending in Me, and so

846
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 6: I did that one just to kind of get, you know,

847
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 6: get my stuff going. And then we started cutting songs

848
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 6: like Satisfaction. I think that was the second one, and

849
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 6: then we just really went on with some of those

850
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 6: hard ash.

851
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 5: The real rock, right real rock.

852
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 3: What about Simon made you go to him first to say, hey,

853
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 3: do the song with me because you wrote that by yourself, right.

854
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 6: I wrote that by myself, and I wrote that years ago.

855
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 6: But I thought this song was so pretty and I

856
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 6: wanted to add more to it. But I was the

857
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 6: reason I picked Simon is because, uh he was on

858
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 6: the rock and roll Uh he went in the Rock

859
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 6: and Roll Hall of Fame with Deran Duran that night.

860
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 6: Same night I did. Same reason. I picked Pat Benatar

861
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 6: and Rob Helford. You know, they were all there that

862
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 6: night and I got a chance to talk to all

863
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 6: of them, but that one, I just thought it would

864
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 6: make just a beautiful song. I just pictured that song

865
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 6: about going off to war, you know, like all the

866
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 6: war going on and the you know that lovers and

867
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 6: husbands going off the war, and the girls singing you know,

868
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 6: my blue tears, and I just pictured that as a

869
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 6: movie theme almost. And I just thought Simon's voice was

870
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 6: so beautiful because it was old world and I did

871
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 6: some harmonies that world top harmonies with myself, but he's

872
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 6: got that really beautiful, high pitched voice, and I thought

873
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 6: he was perfect than any one.

874
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 3: Whenever you're singing some of these songs that other artists

875
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 3: made famous, we talked about Elton John but sting every

876
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 3: breath you take, Steve Perry Journey, open arms.

877
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 5: Do you have pressure?

878
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 3: Do you put it on yourself when you're singing a

879
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 3: song and then you're asking the original.

880
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 5: Artist to get on it with.

881
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 3: You deserve a standard that has to hit before you'll

882
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 3: send it off.

883
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 6: Well, you know what. I talked about this on different things.

884
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 6: I hate to ask anybody to do anything. Anybody asked

885
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 6: me to sing on anything, I nearly ninety nine percent

886
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 6: of the time I will, and if it don't, it's

887
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 6: just cause I can't make the time to do it

888
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 6: or something. But I just listened to the songs and

889
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 6: I think, who would be great on it? I actually

890
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 6: recorded the whole album and had not thought of putting

891
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 6: anybody on it. Then after I got the album recorded,

892
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 6: then I started thinking, wouldn't it be great if I

893
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 6: could get some of these artists. So it was hard

894
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,479
Speaker 6: for me to ask them because I didn't. It wasn't

895
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 6: that I thought they'd say no so much as because

896
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 6: I know we're professional and they would if they could.

897
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 6: And you know, I just had trouble doing it. But

898
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 6: I thought, well, it'd be worth it because it'd be

899
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 6: great if I'm going to do the rock album. To

900
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 6: really make it something special, I mostly called the people,

901
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 6: you know, I wrote a note through my management because

902
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 6: my manager knowed everybody else's manager, so we did a

903
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 6: lot of it through their managers, so I didn't have

904
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 6: to put myself nor them on a total spot. But

905
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 6: I wrote that. I wrote the note myself saying what

906
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 6: I wanted to say to them. Then I thought, well,

907
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 6: if they get back to me, they can just say

908
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 6: they can't or whatever, and they won't have to be.

909
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 6: But my heart was open to it and to them,

910
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 6: and I was really honored that so many of them

911
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 6: wanted to do it.

912
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 3: I picture, there's a meme or like a beautiful mind

913
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 3: where he's doing, you know, there's connecting all the dots

914
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 3: and the ropes in that movie. You doing this with

915
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 3: songs and all these artists because it's so many great artists,

916
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 3: and you're going, well, Debbie Harry sounds really good on

917
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 3: this one, but what because she's so good?

918
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 5: Like, how did that process come?

919
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 6: Well? Actually, when I recorded all those songs, I thought

920
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 6: about all those people that were still living and still productive.

921
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 6: Some of them went and heard from in a long time,

922
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 6: you know, like Steve Perry, who was always one of

923
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 6: my favorite singers ever. And some people say, I don't

924
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 6: think you'll get him because he don't work that much anymore,

925
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 6: and this and this and this. Well, when I got

926
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 6: in touch with him, he'd called me right back and

927
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 6: he said, I've been a fame for years. I used

928
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 6: to watch you on the Border Wagner Show, and my

929
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 6: family loved you, so I knew you. So they all

930
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 6: had their own kind of story and their own kind

931
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 6: same with Rob Halford when we were standing there at

932
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 6: the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, he was saying

933
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 6: how his whole family grew up on my little color

934
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 6: of many colors, and he was naming songs down from

935
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 6: Dover off of albums that you'd have to really know

936
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 6: my history and know me to know some of the songs.

937
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 6: And so we just made some we just made personal connections.

938
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:02,720
Speaker 6: And then when I called about singing on it, they.

939
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 5: Were all in the book behind the scenes.

940
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 3: It's interesting to me because something that you're so known

941
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 3: for and celebrated for, we now understand that as being normal. However,

942
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 3: you're the one that had to kind of create these

943
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,439
Speaker 3: these new highways people to drive down and I would

944
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 3: assume that it always wasn't so easy. When people were

945
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 3: just celebrating you for your fashion, people had to be like, wow,

946
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 3: what is she wearing at times where now again we

947
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 3: look at it and go, that's dolly, She's set the

948
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 3: standard for everybody else. But when you're ground, when you

949
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 3: just wanted to breaking around on new things, there's a

950
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 3: lot of criticism or there's a lot of just judgment

951
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 3: on you. Yeah, couldn't have been so easy all the time.

952
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,280
Speaker 6: It wasn't. But I chose to be myself even still

953
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 6: some things would embarrass me something for my feelings, but

954
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 6: not enough to help me, you know, because I always

955
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 6: just wore things that I was comforable with. I didn't

956
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 6: have the money to be fashionable, you know, back in

957
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 6: the in the days, and but I just what I

958
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 6: was comfortable with when I felt my personality, and it

959
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 6: was a country girl's idea of glam, you know, my

960
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 6: backwoods barbie look, so to speak. But it really was,

961
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 6: you know, when I wrote the song backwards Barbie, you

962
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,720
Speaker 6: know it's like, I'm just a backwards Barbie. Too much makeup,

963
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 6: too much hair, but don't be food by thinking that

964
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 6: the goods are not all there. You know, don't let

965
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 6: these false outlashes lead you to believe that I'm as

966
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 6: silly as I look, because there's a lot to me

967
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 6: kind of ideas. So, but I just felt if I

968
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 6: had anything worth having, people would see it in time.

969
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 6: If my songs were worth singing and recording, people would

970
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 6: find them in time. So I felt it was more

971
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 6: important that I pleased myself and that I'd be happy

972
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 6: within myself, and that i'd be mostly be comfortable in

973
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 6: my own skin, as I say, no matter how far

974
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 6: I've stretched it or but certainly I need to be

975
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 6: comfortable in my own clothes and in my own self.

976
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 6: So if I'm comfortable, everybody around me is comfortable.

977
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 3: Final question I have free Dolly. I want to go

978
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 3: back to the Grand Ole Opry. You're thirteen or fourteen

979
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 3: years old, the first time you play it?

980
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 5: Do you have Do you have a memory of that?

981
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 3: And then the Tale of the Three Standing Ovations? Can

982
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 3: you remember them? I just my first night flight the opera.

983
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 3: It's all a blur. When I was doing comedy of

984
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 3: the opera, it's all a blur, and I don't remember

985
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 3: it that well.

986
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 5: Can you remember that? That seems like such a big moment.

987
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 6: Well, I remember even the very first time that I

988
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 6: sang on the radio when I was ten years old,

989
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 6: and that's when I got addicted to that feeling of

990
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 6: that audience where it gave me confidence, and that same thing.

991
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 6: You know, it gives you confidence, it makes you feel

992
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 6: like you're doing something right. And I always say that

993
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 6: was a lot of that was not because I was good.

994
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 6: It was because I was young, because I was little

995
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 6: back then. But that's just like a shot of adrenaline,

996
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 6: and that just gives you encouragement. That just gives you more.

997
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 6: You know, it's like fuel to the flight, as they say.

998
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 6: But I remember all all of the things the same thing,

999
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 6: the same way I feel now when I'm out there

1000
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 6: in the audience, I mean, and with the audience out

1001
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 6: there when I'm out on stage. Now, you never get

1002
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 6: over that feeling because it's like a oh, you know,

1003
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 6: it's like a great feeling. You feel like you've done

1004
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 6: something right, you feel like you've done something good. So

1005
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 6: you're proud of yourself and you're proud of them, you know,

1006
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 6: for making you feel good and that you feel like, well,

1007
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 6: they've made me believe that. You know that I'm worth

1008
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 6: what they've paid to come to see me, because you know,

1009
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 6: the fans are everything. We all want to think we're

1010
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 6: good at what we do. But if we didn't have

1011
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 6: that following, if we didn't have those people that believed

1012
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 6: in us to the point of bond records and all that,

1013
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 6: we wouldn't have them. So there's something to be said

1014
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 6: about when people react in that way. It makes you

1015
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 6: feel good, and it makes you feel proud, and it

1016
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 6: makes you feel like that you've done something right and

1017
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 6: something good.

1018
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: The Bobby Cast will be right back. Welcome back to

1019
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:00,720
Speaker 1: the cast.

1020
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 3: One more thing I wanted to play just because I

1021
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 3: love this story, and this is from the Bobby Bone Show,

1022
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 3: But this is Dolly talking to us about writing Joline,

1023
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 3: I Will Always Love You same day. Yes, that's a

1024
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 3: very fortuitous financial day. She made a lot of money

1025
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 3: that day. I've never made near that amount of money

1026
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 3: one day that she made write those two songs one day.

1027
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 3: So here's Dolly talking about that.

1028
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 8: Do you feel like in your heart you're a songwriter

1029
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 8: or an artist first?

1030
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 6: I'm a songwriter first, And because I've been asked that

1031
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 6: more than one time. If you had to just stop

1032
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 6: everything and just do one thing. What would that be?

1033
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 6: And I said, I probably choose to write because I

1034
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 6: love that, not just songs, but but poems and jokes

1035
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 6: and stories and you know, coming up with I'm a

1036
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 6: creative person, but I love it all.

1037
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 7: I would never want to, you know.

1038
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 6: To separate it because I need all the other elements

1039
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 6: to you know, make the writing, make sensor, have an

1040
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 6: outlet for that.

1041
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 7: But I just love to write. That's my personal time.

1042
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 6: To write is my therapist, it's my friend, it's my

1043
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 6: god time, it's my you know, it's feeling like I'm

1044
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 6: leaving something in the world you know today that you

1045
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 6: know or for tomorrow that wasn't there, you know, yesterday.

1046
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 6: And so I'm not necessarily a great writer. I've got

1047
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 6: I say I've I've written at least five thousand songs.

1048
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 6: I got probably five good ones. But it's important to

1049
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 6: I think, to express yourself, you know, like that.

1050
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 3: And I just enjoy that you started as a songwriter,

1051
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 3: like right before you kind of got signed as a

1052
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 3: recording artist.

1053
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 7: Well, yes, I did.

1054
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 6: I got on salary for when I was trying to

1055
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 6: get a record deal too, and when I first came

1056
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 6: to Nashville, I started writing for me and my when

1057
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 6: I was just a little kid, sending songs back and

1058
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 6: forth to Nashville in the mail. And so I wanted

1059
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 6: to sing too. I wanted to be a star. I

1060
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 6: wanted to be uh, to travel the world. I wanted

1061
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 6: to be rich and famous like we all do. But

1062
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 6: it was more about the art with me always, you know,

1063
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 6: I wanted to I wanted to make good money, but

1064
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 6: I wanted people to hear my songs, and I just

1065
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 6: wanted to get out there and perform.

1066
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 8: What was the first song that someone sang that you wrote?

1067
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 2: Do you remember?

1068
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 6: Yes, the first record I won with my uncle Bill Owens,

1069
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 6: who's the one that kind of helped me get around.

1070
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 7: He was my mother's brother.

1071
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 6: He played guitar and he was a writer singer, but

1072
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 6: he saw my great desire and he's the one that

1073
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 6: would take me around to sing.

1074
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 7: So we wrote a song.

1075
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 6: Together on different trips back and forth to Nashville when

1076
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 6: I was young and we were trying to get record

1077
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 6: deals or songs recorded, and we wrote a song called

1078
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 6: put It Off until Tomorrow.

1079
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 7: That was the song that was the b of my

1080
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 7: Song of.

1081
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 6: The Year that year nineteen and sixty six. I guess

1082
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 6: maybe sixty five or sixty six Bill Phillips on Deck

1083
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 6: of Records.

1084
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 7: So I felt like I'd made it.

1085
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 3: Then another that was a huge deal, right to have

1086
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 3: someone to sing your song.

1087
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 6: Yes, And actually, what's so funny that is kind of

1088
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 6: what got me started as a singer. Well, because they

1089
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 6: were trying when I first came to Nashville. I was young,

1090
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 6: and so Fred Foster and different people that I would

1091
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 6: go to talk to with Monument Records, and they thought

1092
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Speaker 6: since I was young, I should do more like rockabilly

1093
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 6: or more pop things. And I kept saying, I'm a

1094
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 6: country singer. I don't know that world, and I'm not

1095
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 6: you know, I'm not comfortable with that. But they when

1096
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 6: I sent this song out as a songwriter, my uncle

1097
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 6: Bill and I, I didn't have my name on it.

1098
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 6: I just was singing the harmony on it, and so

1099
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 6: Bill Phillips and the Deck of Record said, who is

1100
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 6: the girl singing the harmony on that? And Bill Phillips said,

1101
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 6: I want that girl to sing the harmony. So I'm

1102
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 6: singing harmony on Bill Phillips record. And that's when my

1103
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 6: name wasn't on the record, and people were calling through

1104
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 6: the radio station. Who's the girl singer, Who's the girl singer?

1105
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 7: And so that's how I went to the record label.

1106
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 6: And said, see, I told you.

1107
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 7: So, let me sing country. And that's kind of how

1108
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 7: that got started.

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00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 3: So many emails like cite you as their biggest influence,

1110
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 3: like the women that come in here, like Kelsey Ballerini.

1111
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 3: I saw Carly Pierce just tweet that she's listening to you.

1112
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 3: Laura and Lena messaged me. And so you coming up

1113
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 3: in an industry that was really really male driven at

1114
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:17,959
Speaker 3: the time like that for you had to be quite

1115
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 3: the shock right to go into all men.

1116
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 6: You know, it really wasn't and I people ask me

1117
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 6: that all the time. That didn't seem that a big

1118
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,720
Speaker 6: of a deal to me because I have six brothers

1119
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 6: and I'm very close to my uncles and my dad,

1120
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 6: and so I understand and love me and I understand

1121
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 6: the you know and all the personalities. And I just

1122
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 6: knew that I had the goods. I knew I had

1123
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 6: the songs, and I always felt like I had something

1124
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 6: to give. So I would just go in like a look,

1125
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 6: kind of like with a business attitude. But when they

1126
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 6: had flirt with me, I took it as a compliment

1127
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 6: because I knew I wasn't going to let it get

1128
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 6: out of hand, because you know, if I, if I

1129
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 6: didn't kick their butts.

1130
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 7: I had six brothers.

1131
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 8: So the six brothers, that that kind of set you up.

1132
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 6: I know every you know, I know the nature of men,

1133
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 6: and I know all the personalities. But I really think

1134
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 6: that helped me a lot, because I think it could

1135
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 6: have been a lot worse for me had I not.

1136
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 6: You know, I was so dumb too, I probably didn't

1137
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,280
Speaker 6: even know sometimes when things were maybe out of kilter,

1138
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 6: because I also had such confidence in myself that I

1139
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 6: would always know when something didn't seem right, and I would,

1140
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 6: you know, I'm read nick enough to know how to

1141
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 6: put a halt to that if I didn't want to

1142
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 6: do it. Like I said, I never slept with anybody

1143
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 6: I didn't want to. Nobody ever forced me.

1144
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 7: To do it.

1145
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 6: I didn't have to do it for a deal that

1146
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 6: was like that was just our own personal deal that

1147
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:36,760
Speaker 6: that happened.

1148
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 3: Tell me about this, because depending when you grew up,

1149
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 3: the song.

1150
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 2: Happens in many versions.

1151
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 8: And I feel like now this version's back, like this.

1152
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 3: Is the one that people know again because you wrote

1153
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 3: the song how long.

1154
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 7: Ago in nineteen seventy two.

1155
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 6: I think I wrote it at the same time I

1156
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:01,720
Speaker 6: wrote Joelene.

1157
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 7: That was a good writing day, Yeah, I believe.

1158
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 6: So it was writing that writing period of time because

1159
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 6: I remember all my paperwork and like they came out

1160
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 6: pretty close, you know, at the same time.

1161
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 7: So everybody said.

1162
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 6: Boy, you what was you taking? That was a good

1163
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 6: That was a good writing day.

1164
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 7: But it was.

1165
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 6: But that song, you know, came from a very serious place.

1166
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 6: And everybody's always heard the story. When I was working

1167
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 6: with the Porta Wagoner Show and we were I was

1168
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 6: trying to get out, go out on my own, and

1169
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 6: it was taking a big honk out of his show

1170
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 6: and the fact that we had one of those love

1171
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 6: hate relationships and it was just hard to move on,

1172
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 6: and so he wasn't listening to anything I had to say.

1173
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 6: So I went home and wrote that song, took it

1174
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,959
Speaker 6: back the next morning and said, sit down, I need

1175
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 6: you to hear something. So I sang it and he

1176
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 6: was grinding, so he said, okay, you can go, uh,

1177
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 6: providing I can produce that record. So he did, and

1178
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 6: so that's how it came about. But it was only

1179
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 6: when Whitney record that, it became like such a worldwide hit,

1180
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 6: and so that's just I always love Whitney Houston.

1181
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 2: How did they approach you for that?

1182
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 7: Well, that's a funny thing.

1183
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 6: Kevin Costner was producing or directing and I imagine producing also

1184
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 6: the Bodyguard.

1185
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 7: Movie, and he was in it.

1186
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 6: And so they had a song that was going to

1187
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 6: be the theme, and just before they got ready to

1188
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 6: do the movie, someone else covered the song they were

1189
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 6: going to use, so they had to find another song,

1190
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 6: and his secretary or his assistant somebody said, there's a

1191
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 6: Dolly Partner song I love I Will Always Love You.

1192
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 6: I think it would just fit this, and he said,

1193
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 6: oh yeah, I love that song. So they contacted me

1194
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 6: about using it. I said absolutely, and so I sent

1195
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 6: it and I hadn't heard anything more about it until

1196
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 6: I heard it going driving from my office to my

1197
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 6: house in Brentwood.

1198
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 7: I heard.

1199
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,240
Speaker 6: I didn't know if they had ever used it or anything.

1200
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 6: And so I just heard Whitney saying if I did

1201
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 6: the acapella part, and it was just it wasn't ringing Tratha.

1202
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 7: It was weird. That's you know.

1203
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 6: Something caught my attension. And it was only when She

1204
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 6: went into the course of it that I will always

1205
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 6: lovey that I realized what I was listening to, and

1206
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 6: it was so overwhelming. I almost wrecked. I just pulled

1207
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 6: off just the greatness and the bigness and the fact

1208
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 6: that that was my song and it was just so

1209
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 6: out of nowhere. And I have to honestly say, that

1210
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 6: was one of the biggest thrills and one of the

1211
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 6: most overwhelming feelings I've ever had about anything in my life.

1212
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 8: Well, you've always been so kind to me, so well,

1213
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 8: we love you.

1214
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 6: Everybody loves the bone, That's true. Did you ever hear

1215
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 6: a song of mine called these Old Bones I have? Well,

1216
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 6: you need to play that, just that part that these

1217
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 6: old bones will tell you a story. These old bones

1218
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 6: are never lie.

1219
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, you heard her?

1220
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 2: I heard her. Are you HEARDing financially?

1221
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 7: I mean, how many people have enough song about her?

1222
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 7: Old bones?

1223
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 2: Fair enough?

1224
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 3: Thank you guys for listening to this With Dolly, she

1225
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 3: continues to redefine what it is to be an artist,

1226
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 3: a storyteller, a cultural icon.

1227
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 2: We're so grateful for the time. I'm so grateful for

1228
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 2: the time.

1229
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 3: I've been grateful to work with Dolly in many capacities

1230
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 3: at this point, if it's philanthropy, if it's entertainment, if

1231
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 3: whatever it is, I've just been very lucky to know Dolly,

1232
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 3: so I feel lucky.

1233
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 2: I hope you feel lucky. Thanks for listening, and if you.

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00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 3: Enjoyed this episode, please follow the Bobby Cast. That helps

1235
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 3: us so much rate and review. I know people say

1236
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 3: that crap and you're like, I'm not gonna do that,

1237
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 3: but it does help. And if you know a Dolly fan,

1238
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 3: please send him this hit a little button that goes

1239
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 3: share and send them the link or wherever you listen

1240
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 3: to this, so yeah, go get it.

1241
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

1242
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 3: Thank you Dolly, You're an inspiration. And that is all

1243
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 3: for this week on the Bobbycast.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.