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Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue,

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Speaker 1: Joe Grande and Marking Craig Wasserman the Pot Brothers at Law.

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Speaker 1: We're the world's number one podcast for everything cannabis. Hello

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Speaker 1: and welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one and he's Blue.

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Speaker 1: Alongside of me is the world famous Joe grand Thank

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Speaker 1: you very much, pleasure to be here with their world

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Speaker 1: famous Craig Asserman. We lost my little brother today because

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Speaker 1: he had to go pick up a dear friend of us. Pack.

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Speaker 1: We love you, Packs. Taking too much ton of the show.

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Speaker 1: I just kind of stay packed. Now that you're better,

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Speaker 1: Dog And you've been on road trips, You've been camping,

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Speaker 1: I can't believe the old guy, Craig has a freaking dog.

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Speaker 1: are you gonna feel when that dog has more fans

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Speaker 1: And that's happening to well Blues at one. Christopher Wright

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Speaker 1: and I am at Joe Grande fifty two today. We

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Speaker 1: have a very special guest. You can see him behind us.

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Speaker 1: He's on the screens and he's online with us, James mcclinnis.

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Speaker 1: He's running for sheriff of Pineless County and you can

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Speaker 1: see him at mcclinnis for sheriff dot com. It is

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Speaker 1: a great website. Thank you James for joining us today.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing. I'm doing fantastic. Thanks for having me,

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Speaker 1: no doubt so off the top. I've watched several videos

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Speaker 1: aware of who you are, I mean before I say,

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Speaker 1: are you being attacked right now by sheriff and police outside?

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Speaker 1: Because you're attacking folks, you're attacking cops, dog, You're going

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Speaker 1: because he's a dirty son of a bitch and he

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Speaker 1: needs to be taken down. I grew up in Detroit.

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Speaker 1: When you say you're referring to Robert Gallatin or yeah,

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Speaker 1: all Thiery, he's the sheriff here. Uh. He's also extremely tyrannical.

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Speaker 1: He is a racist. It's against the campaign law for

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Speaker 1: You know what, I actually I actually seen you standing

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Speaker 1: but we're not getting a choice. We're actually just getting

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Speaker 1: help him come up with a lot of different slogans

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Speaker 1: and he doesn't stand a chance. I mean, he's a

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Speaker 1: marijuana referendum. Back then it was sixty percent of the

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Speaker 1: voters were in favor of medical marijuana, and the polls

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Speaker 1: today say the sixties seven are in favor of recreational

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Speaker 1: adult use. And so I don't think a lot of

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Speaker 1: people understand the difference between legalized, which is no such thing. Well,

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Speaker 1: like here an example, if you get a medical marijuana

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Speaker 1: card and you think you're okay, you get you get

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Speaker 1: pull over and you're post smoking your car, you grab

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Speaker 1: your your medical marijuana card, show to the cop. Here

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Speaker 1: they use that it's probable costs to drag your ass

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Speaker 1: out of the car and search you. Because medical cannabis lasses,

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Speaker 1: you're only allowed to have a very small amount, and

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Speaker 1: they want to make sure that you have that amount,

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Speaker 1: and then they're gonna go through your whole card, arrestue

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Speaker 1: for anything that they can find. If it's not in

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Speaker 1: it's original packaging, they will arrest you. So the card

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Speaker 1: actually creates more of a problem for you because of

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Speaker 1: the mindset of the sheriff's here, which is insane. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean all of that. The legislatures have to change

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Speaker 1: something in some of the I mean in some of

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Speaker 1: the states where they have decriminalized, because in not one state,

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Speaker 1: not one state where they say, you know, it's legalized.

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Speaker 1: Colorado California, Oregon, doesn't matter. It's not legal. People are

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Speaker 1: still getting arrested for it. Period. They may have decriminalized

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Speaker 1: certain amounts, certainly, you know, under a certain amount to

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Speaker 1: use to buy, to you know, to transport, but all

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Speaker 1: in all, there's not one state where it's truly legal

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Speaker 1: because people are still getting arrested. Well, Oklahoma is almost

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Speaker 1: close to it. I mean, you know, but but I

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Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. You're still getting arrested in

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Speaker 1: every single state. They're getting arrested. Well that's the reality.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're rolling down the street, you know,

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Speaker 1: with a truck full of alcohol, we always say this,

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Speaker 1: you know, the coup will give you a high five

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Speaker 1: and be like, have a great party. Man, looks like

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Speaker 1: a good time. Yeah, it looks like a great time.

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Speaker 1: And the whole back of your truck and be full

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Speaker 1: of liquor bottles and Budweiser cans and everything else. And

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Speaker 1: not to say that, you know, I haven't had my

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Speaker 1: fair share of drinks, but you should be able to

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Speaker 1: do the same thing with cannabis. And and it's kind

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Speaker 1: of ridiculous, but you know, going into some of the

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Speaker 1: thoughts of of you know this, uh, Robert or Bob.

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Speaker 1: What's the current ultery? You know, are you a fear

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Speaker 1: of your life? Yeah, that's a good question. Well after

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Speaker 1: what he's done before, some of the things he's done,

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Speaker 1: like as an example, I put a face that video

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Speaker 1: of me out front of his house. Yeah, and one

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Speaker 1: of my followers literally wrote there about him and his wife.

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Speaker 1: His wife is a judge. They both collect three hundred

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Speaker 1: thirty five thousand dollars a year. So he put on

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Speaker 1: there both of them, they need to have the ship

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Speaker 1: best out of them. B e s t out of them.

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Speaker 1: Now he misspelled beat, but what is having the ship

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Speaker 1: best out of you? The next day, a sheriff's office

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Speaker 1: showed up at his house, called him on iPhone, demanded

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Speaker 1: that he called him immediately to explain the threat he

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Speaker 1: did against Sheriff Galtieri. So Sheriff Galtieri is is literally

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Speaker 1: monitor my page to that degree, and she's chasing people

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Speaker 1: down that make comments about they need to have the

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Speaker 1: ship best out of them. That's insane, and that's what

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Speaker 1: he's trying to do. He's gonna try and jam me

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Speaker 1: up and say I'm inciting violence against him. He will

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Speaker 1: do anything to arrest me. And that's the only way

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Speaker 1: he's gonna stop me is to kill me. So is

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Speaker 1: he thinking about it? I'm sure he is, James mcclinnis,

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Speaker 1: he's running for sheriff in Panellis County and by any

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Speaker 1: means necessary, it looks like that's how you're going about it.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, brother, Malcolm, go ahead and do your thing.

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Speaker 1: You by any means necessary, you're trying to take it over.

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Speaker 1: Something I want to touch on though, is I know

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Speaker 1: you're saying lay off the bad cops. What are you

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Speaker 1: thinking on how to produce new cops and to get

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Speaker 1: that culture out of the system. What's your thoughts on that? Oh,

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Speaker 1: that's an easy one. Uh. Basically, what I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: down there, I'm going to literally get all of the

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Speaker 1: complaint files and the fifty cops that have the most

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Speaker 1: complaints are gone, period. What if there's what if they're

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Speaker 1: at fifty, we there's there's ten more with the same

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Speaker 1: amount of complaints, it's fifty the solid number. Or if

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Speaker 1: there's seventy five people with twenty complaints each, what do

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Speaker 1: you do Well, I'm gonna fire the fifty immediate or

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Speaker 1: layoff I should say the fifty immediately. And I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: review the next two hundred, and I'll keep doing that

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Speaker 1: until we get down to a manageable number. It's my

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Speaker 1: opinion that in all police agencies, not just here in

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Speaker 1: panellis that you have the agencies to broke it up

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Speaker 1: into thirds. You've got a third of the officers that

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Speaker 1: are just assholes. They like to beat people over the head,

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Speaker 1: abuse their rights, bully people around. They have no business

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Speaker 1: having a badge and a gun. Then on the other spectrum,

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Speaker 1: you have a third of the cops that are good guys.

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Speaker 1: They got into it for the right reason. They want

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Speaker 1: to help up the community, but they're not treated properly.

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Speaker 1: If they speak up, they get fired, so they learned

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Speaker 1: to just shut up and collect their paychecks. Then you've

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Speaker 1: got the middle third that will go either way depending

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Speaker 1: on who they're paired with. So my concept is and

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Speaker 1: cannabis enforcement not need a third of the officers, get

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Speaker 1: rid of the third officers, promote the good third of

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Speaker 1: the officers, and try and save the middle third. Very

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Speaker 1: nicely said I I like that that it's a good

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Speaker 1: concept in theory, but it just makes me fear. If

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Speaker 1: you know, Craig was my father and he was a

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Speaker 1: sheriff before I want to get into law enforcement. You

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Speaker 1: laid him off. You know, it's hard to stop that

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Speaker 1: breed that continues to want to be law and first enforcement.

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Speaker 1: And they come in with that quote unquote blue mentality.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, that's part of my name

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Speaker 1: and trying to kind of my name. It's funny what

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Speaker 1: I say it. I don't even think of you when

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Speaker 1: you say it. I think of blue badge mentality. I

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Speaker 1: think of that mentality those it's fostered in in the academy.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's it's us versus them mentality, and that's

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Speaker 1: what we have to get away from. Ay to stop

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Speaker 1: the US versus them. It's stopped the instead of pulled

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Speaker 1: me over because your your blinkers out and if your

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Speaker 1: front blinkers out and you're making a left turn, I

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Speaker 1: mean that could kill somebody. So yeah, pull him over,

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Speaker 1: hey ticket, give him a warning. But I'm doing this

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Speaker 1: because we need to keep the community safe. Not every

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00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: traffic stop it's meant for them to get into your car.

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Speaker 1: That's what they're taught at the academy. So they have

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Speaker 1: to stop all this and retrain people at the academy

549
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: level coming in. It's like servant protect our servants search.

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Speaker 1: It's like, what am I doing here? Right? No? We

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Speaker 1: we we heard it on they took it off the

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Speaker 1: air live PD. You know, one of one guy made

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Speaker 1: it very very clear that the mentality is we pull

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Speaker 1: you over to get into your car. That's what they

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Speaker 1: that's off the PD show because they were trying to

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Speaker 1: you know, they slanted that so bad too. You know,

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Speaker 1: they didn't show any any they didn't show any bad propaganda.

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Speaker 1: You showed all all the cool guys, which is great

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Speaker 1: because there are good ones out there, and the I

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Speaker 1: watched those shows. My daughter and I would sit here

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Speaker 1: watched those shows and go, all right, he just pulled

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Speaker 1: them over. How many seconds before he starts saying you

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Speaker 1: got anything in the car I need to know about

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Speaker 1: because they were gonna starch they were on TV doing it. No, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: it was no. And we would watch it. My brother

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Speaker 1: would break those down and on our I g page

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Speaker 1: and go, you know, break him down. Now this is

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00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: where it comes here, you know, wait for it. And

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Speaker 1: it's like the minute they asked what's in your cards?

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Speaker 1: I'm not discussing my day, I mean, and we were

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Speaker 1: just waiting for someone to say that. But no, everybody's like, yokay, uh,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing. You can go ahead and search and then

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Speaker 1: god knows what they find. There was a time, there

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Speaker 1: was a time when you when you said, I'm not

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Speaker 1: discussing my day and being free. Am I free or

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Speaker 1: am I entertained or whatever? You start using the script

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Speaker 1: and they just pushed your window and yankee out the window.

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Speaker 1: Heart beat those days. No, that's good. But they're starting

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Speaker 1: to change because there's so much people filming the police

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Speaker 1: and there's but I disagree, I disagree the majority we get.

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Speaker 1: We get direct messages from around the country, from people

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Speaker 1: of color, from all minorities that have used the script

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Speaker 1: in the Deep South, and it has worked. Now, if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna disagree with yeah, you just did. If you're

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00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: you're gonna get your the script was never meant to

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Speaker 1: have you not get arrested. The script was meant for

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Speaker 1: you to maintain your rights. If you do get arrested,

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00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: and if they kick your ass after using the script,

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00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 1: you've done nothing but used the script, and hopefully you're

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Speaker 1: praying that you either film the police or their body

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00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: cams were working. More importantly, you film it, you're gonna

592
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Speaker 1: have a big gass case against someone they pull you

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Speaker 1: out of the car for using the script. You know.

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Speaker 1: One of the things, James, I think that's that's super

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Speaker 1: important in in in the world of law enforcement right

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00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: now that hasn't been addressed is the education that they

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00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: are not receiving, meaning that you can go to Uh

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Speaker 1: you know, how long to take you to be a lawyer?

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Speaker 1: Uh well, three years of law school, four years of college,

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Speaker 1: three years of law school, four years of college. If

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Speaker 1: I want to be a police officer, six months, six months?

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Speaker 1: If that and now and now I'm patrolling, I'm a

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Speaker 1: police officer. I don't know, But I still think if

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Speaker 1: you if you change that culture when they come in,

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Speaker 1: I mean they're learning a bad culture in six months.

606
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 1: They can learn a good culture in six months. But

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00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: how about like like, you know, sincere, sincerely, like understanding

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00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: the environment that you're in. You know, you take a

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00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: cop from Hollywood or or from you know, Beverly Hills,

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00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 1: and you place him in Compton. Okay, you you put

611
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: you know, and now he's dealing with people from Compton.

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00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: He has no understanding of how to develop in relationship

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00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: with these people. He's not from their area. So you

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00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,239
Speaker 1: can't just walk into these towns. And I know that

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00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: because I grew up in a town like this where

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Speaker 1: it's like, you know, you got these cops are coming

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Speaker 1: in and these are call the cops a little Germany

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Speaker 1: and this now because every single one of them were white,

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Speaker 1: every single one of them were not from our town,

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00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: and every single one of them would tell us and

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Speaker 1: threaten us, telling us they're the biggest gang in our city.

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00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: You know, so they don't know how to communicate. If

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Speaker 1: if you have an officer that understands, you know, more education,

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00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: like you're saying, and then you need to be taught

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00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: out of communicate. They need take sociology thought, they need

626
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: to start start start putting the people from that, start

627
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: pulling people from the community, community from community policing. I

628
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: mean more people would sign up, Like James, what are

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Speaker 1: your thoughts from that as far as you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: more education compo some kind of residency requirement and how

631
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Speaker 1: do you think that would fly? Part of it, it's

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Speaker 1: part of it is less education. Eight percent of the

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00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: cops are being taught eighty percent of that as the

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00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: education cops probably get, they're being fought how to hurt

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00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: or help people, and is the job. They don't get

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00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: tough the laws, they don't get compic constitution, they don't

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00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: get taught how to act like human beings. And then

638
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Speaker 1: they're also indoctrinated into this military mindset where he had

639
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: captains and lieutenants and corporal And as soon as you

640
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: start developing a military mindset than your war, if you're

641
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: at war, you need unanomy. And here in American the

642
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,479
Speaker 1: enemy as the people. So I'm literally gonna end that

643
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: we're not gonna have pohold of startings in lieutenants anymore.

644
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: We're gonna have supervisors, and we're gonna have managers, and

645
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna have regional directors. We're getting rid of those

646
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: stripes and that crack's. Let's take a break and come

647
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: back and talk about about a little more. All right,

648
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: So that was fired. That was great. I want to

649
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: be repeat it again, James. Can you please repeat what

650
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: you said and how you would change things within the

651
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: organization when you're here. Yeah, the problem with police is

652
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: that when you're trained to be a hammer, everything looks

653
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: like a nail. And the police are trained eighty presenter.

654
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: The training is how to hurt people, how to kill people,

655
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,719
Speaker 1: how to beat up people, how to restrain them, and

656
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,719
Speaker 1: that's got to stop. I want to do less training

657
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,719
Speaker 1: on how to hurt people and more training on how

658
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: to interact with them. And the bottom line for me

659
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: is that when you have the police that are that

660
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: are trained this way, they're they're going to basically have

661
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: their trained militarily. They have sergeants and tenants, captains, and

662
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: when you are are in the military, the problem is

663
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: you have to have an in them. And if you're

664
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: a military mindset person and the enemy is gonna be

665
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: the people and I'm going to end them, We're not

666
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: gonna have any captains, any sergeants, any tenants anymore. They're

667
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: gonna be regional managers, they're going to be supervisor, they're

668
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: going to be community directors, and there's not gonna be

669
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: any more military hierarchy. In my now, it's kind of

670
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: shriff off. And if there's like we're the we're the ones.

671
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: I thing. I always feel like I'm the victim right there, right,

672
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm the enemy. You're right, that's minorities feel

673
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: like they minorities relfill that, right, I mean, and that's

674
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: across the board. But we all get that feeling going

675
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: all that light when I'll find me. You get that

676
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: numb feeling everybody gets. My god, I mean, I can't

677
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: imagine what it would be like for you, Joe, Yeah,

678
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: and oh no, oh, and when I was bald, there

679
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: was no joke, James. You guys bringing up a great point.

680
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: One of the things I fully intend on doing here

681
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: is creating a police agency where you look up in

682
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: your review mirror and you see a cop car and

683
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: you're not afraid. I'm gonna be teaching my officers screw

684
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: the damn ticket, don't steal their hundred and thirty four

685
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: dollars because they're let their bulb is out of their

686
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: cards and natural occurring eventable old breaking. Instead, pull up

687
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: next to him at the light, roll your window down

688
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: and say, hey, I just happen to notice you have

689
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: a light out back there. You only want to get

690
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: that taking care of for your safety and everybody else

691
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: on the road, have a nice day. And in communities

692
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: over in Europe where they've actually done that, the community

693
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: response going, you know what, what a nice guy? That

694
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: makes sense. I'm gonna go get my bolt fixed tomorrow,

695
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: and they respond to that right on their cars with

696
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: a sharper. We warned him one time for the light

697
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: and having port an arrow right here. If they don't

698
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: fix it in a week, put the date on it

699
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: going man, we gave you two weeks. We wrote it

700
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: on a sharpie on your car. On a more on

701
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: a more serious note, how do you deal with or

702
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: or or how do you train those who are gonna

703
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: handle I mean real crime, because there's gonna be those

704
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: bad guys. There's always gonna be bad guys. There's always

705
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: gonna be bad guys with guns. There's always gonna be that.

706
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I maybe I'm being pessimistic, but I think

707
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: there's always gonna be that. So I mean, how is

708
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,959
Speaker 1: that dealt with? Well? For in my agency, what I'm

709
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: gonna do is that we're gonna have basically two levels

710
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: of enforcement. We're gonna have the community enforcement that these

711
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: guys are gonna be a lot more laid back in

712
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: mellow uh. And if they perceived that there's a problem

713
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: that they can't handle, then we'll have another team that

714
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: could come in and be a little bit more forceful.

715
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: But they're gonna have a highly tight used to force

716
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: parameters set on them as well. Uh, they're not gonna

717
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: shoot people because the car moves towards them. They're not

718
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: gonna try and take life. I'm gonna have a presumation

719
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: of life policy where if we have to sit and

720
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: hide behind our cars for an hour while the guy

721
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: get sleepy and buy him a pizza, whatever the hell

722
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: it's gonna take. We're just not gonna kill people if

723
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: we can do anything at all to get away from it.

724
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: James mclinnis's rearing for sheriff in Panella's County out in Florida.

725
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: I want to ask you, uh, I want to tell

726
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: you a scenario and your thoughts on it. I was

727
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: just told today that the rookie of the year in

728
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: Santa Anna. Is that what I was? Weird told the

729
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: rookie of the year policeman in Santa Anna was named

730
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: rookie of the year and as two deaths this year

731
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: this year in his rookie year, two deaths that he got.

732
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,959
Speaker 1: Now what therefore exactly? We only heard of one that

733
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: was it was self sounded sounded deservingly the guy was

734
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: shooting at him. But we don't know the second one.

735
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 1: Either way, your thoughts on two deaths and you become

736
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: rookie of the Year. I mean, that's like you're giving

737
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 1: him a prize for for taking too Whether they're they're

738
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: they're human beings, what race they are, I don't care

739
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: what they did wrong. Santa And did shoot give year

740
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: to give this guy by the way, Jameson and just

741
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: to give you a little thought process on it, the

742
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: gentleman came out of his vehicle and started shooting at

743
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: the police officer. Officer Dodgson bullets shot him, shot him

744
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: several times. They killed him. Okay, And another occurrence happened

745
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: in Santa Ana, Santa Anna over here is is you

746
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 1: know rougher town for should have got facts on the

747
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: second one before we bring it up? No, no, but

748
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 1: but it's not about no, that's not the moral of

749
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: the story. Because if if someone gets out of a

750
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: car and start shooting, they deserve to get shot at it.

751
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: If they die, they shouldn't have pulled that. Disagree, But

752
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: the question is shouldn't get a medal? He went into

753
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: the line of duty and he rightfully got out of

754
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: a car and someone got out of a car with

755
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: a gun. We had one of our associates downstairs. X

756
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: a lawyer, X cop walked up to a car Asian

757
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: Asian guy As a cop walked up to the car,

758
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: guy opened the window and shot his ass understanding, I'm

759
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: not disagreeing. I'm saying, to two deaths, give you an

760
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 1: extra Was he a good cop? You have to look.

761
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: I mean, if both of those scenarios were like the first,

762
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: he did that putting it in perspective for James, that's all.

763
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: I'm just putting in perspective and not answering the question.

764
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: I agre with you, and I think Blue agrees with you.

765
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: We all agree that he was serving and protecting for

766
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: the first one. We don't know the second. I'm asking

767
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: and this is the question in general. The guy has

768
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: two deaths with that play, apart and becoming Rookie of

769
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: the Year, Yeah, I would have probably not made him

770
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: Rookie of here just for the simple optics of it.

771
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: It just looks bad. Why would I do that? Would I?

772
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: Why would I use that as an example in the

773
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: in the face of the community. Yeah, he killed two

774
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: of you guys, here's his badge. But I wouldn't make

775
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: a judgment necessarily on the actual shoot. If it's there's

776
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: if it's a good clean shoot, for sure, I mean

777
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: it's obviously he's got to protect himself. But at the

778
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: same time, let's go back before the shoot and why

779
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: did that guy shoot? I Did he shoot because he's

780
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: been pulled over twenty or fifty times? Does he shoot

781
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: because he's been arrested for f t a failure to

782
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: appear and he has he been rousted several times? Does

783
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: he have a long rap sheet because it's never ending

784
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: once he's get in their little spiderway, but it's never ending.

785
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: And if he's just sick of it and people get

786
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 1: sick of this, think about the window with a gun.

787
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,760
Speaker 1: Did any of that happen? Was the guy on drugs?

788
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: Who knows what the situation is. But the bottom line

789
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 1: is we have to have a different way that the

790
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: community perceives police. And I think if we can establish

791
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: that here, I think it takes a foothold. And I

792
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: don't think we're gonna have people pulling guns out and

793
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: shooting my officers around here, because we're not gonna be

794
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: treating people like that. I hope to not have any

795
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: ask the entire time I'm shriff, not only no deaths

796
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: of officers, but no deaths of citizens. And how long

797
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: everything I can to make sure that happens. How long

798
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: is the term four years? When when is the election

799
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: November three? I have a primary August eighteen and then

800
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: the election November three. How do you feel about it

801
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: like the community? Have you been getting out to the community.

802
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: Have you reached out? I mean, obviously there's not a

803
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: lot of I mean, well here we we have a

804
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,919
Speaker 1: lot of lockdowns and there's not quite as many people

805
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 1: on the streets. How is it out there and are

806
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: you getting out to the people. Do you feel good

807
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: about this election? Yeah, I've actually been down to the protest.

808
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: I've taken part in a lot of the protests, and

809
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: I've been in the middle of it. I was down

810
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: in downtown St. Pete Uh, and I was marching at

811
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: the tail end of the protest where there was literally

812
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: four to five d protestors marching in the pouring down rain.

813
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 1: It was one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen.

814
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: The rain started coming down, not a single one of

815
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: them backed out. They kept marching down to the St.

816
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: P Police Department and it was amazing. But and here

817
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: the same police department, if they protest out front. They

818
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: opened the doors and they scrow a flash bank grenades

819
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 1: out of the peaceful protesters. There's nobody doing anything wrong,

820
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: and it's a whole mindset that needs to change, and

821
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: I think the community is ready for that, just by

822
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: the fact that we're having all these cities burned across

823
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: the country. Were finally sick and tired of the overfunded policing,

824
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: the over policing, the mass incarceration, the arresting everybody for nothing.

825
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: It's finally starting to wake up and the average person

826
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: is going, hey, wait, we got a problem here. Yeah,

827
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: it's gonna be as well know, but he's right, as

828
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: pervasive across the country. It's it's the business of policing

829
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 1: as that forfeiture and that whole line of things where

830
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: it's a business how many tickets, how many how far

831
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: can I go? I mean, it's we that just has

832
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 1: to change. When you said, James, you know thirty percent

833
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: of of you know, their arrest are you know, from cannabis?

834
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 1: You know it would be of the arrest In my opinion,

835
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: they would make more money legalizing it than the thirty

836
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: percent that they're making arresting people and criminalizing. Now the police.

837
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: The police wouldn't necessarily make that because the money would

838
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: go out of places. So that's why they don't. They

839
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: don't want it decriminalized or legalized, because then they don't

840
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: get their asset forfeiture money when they and then they

841
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: turned it over to the Feds. That's a whole another

842
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: level of the misconduct. When the cops take a hundred grand,

843
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: they give it to the Feds because the Feds it's

844
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: illegal under the federal rules. And then what happens asset

845
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: forfeiture and profit sharing. The city or the county gets

846
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: eight percent of what was confiscated and the Feds keep twenty.

847
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: I love when you amazed me. I want to get

848
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: I want to get James. I want to get Robert

849
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: on the show. I want to both have both of

850
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: you guys on the show. Would he come on? You

851
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: think he won't come on? He might guy character. We

852
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 1: had a we had a debate, uh actually a forum

853
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: like this. It was online, and he told the people

854
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: that were hosting the debate that he would refuse to

855
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: go and participate in any debate where I was participating.

856
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what. He didn't want me on the

857
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: same screen as him, and he's refusing to literally debate me,

858
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: and you know the worst the threads. Yeah, exactly. Well,

859
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: good luck to you. November three out there in good

860
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: old Panellas County in Florida. It's now time for the

861
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 1: High five with the new sheriff, James mcclinnis God William.

862
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: Question number one, James, how old are you the first

863
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: time you smoked weed? And where did you get it from?

864
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: It was probably fourteen or fifteen years old. I was

865
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: living in Detroit and one of my buddies had an

866
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 1: older brother who grewesome in the backyard and uh and

867
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: um the uh. He had picked his plants and he

868
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: had processed all of his stuff in the garage and

869
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: there was a bunch of leaves left over on the ground,

870
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: the kind of stuff you'd actually probably throw out, and us,

871
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: being little kids, we just picked up all these leaves

872
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: and we dried about the sun. We rolled about. It

873
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: was the worst part you probably ever spoke. It was terrible.

874
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: You know, we didn't we probably didn't get buzzed. We

875
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: just convinced ourselves that we did. So that was what's

876
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:54,439
Speaker 1: your favorite way to medicate? Um? I bought. I lived

877
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: two blocks down from the beach, and there's just nothing

878
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 1: finer than walking down the beach, sticking your toes and

879
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: this and and watching the sunset as smoke to joint.

880
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: Question number three at the High five. Bless you, by

881
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 1: the way, thank you. I'm trying to regroup. Question number

882
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 1: three of the High five, Craziest place You've ever used

883
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: or smoked cannabis? When I was nineteen years old, I

884
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: was in the France in the Pyrenees Mountains, and I

885
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: was actually lucky enough to be with three very beautiful

886
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: girls uh in a natural hot tub out in the

887
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: woods next to a waterfall, and it was like it

888
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: was incredible. It was like one of those scenes I

889
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 1: call a movie scenes where you're living a moment where

890
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: everybody would like to watch this in a movie. It

891
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 1: was pretty awesome. That was a great picture you just

892
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: painted right there. Question number four the High Five, what

893
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 1: is your go to Munkey's after you get high? I'm

894
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: boring in that regard. It's just plain old piece that

895
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 1: we got a great piece of ria down the street.

896
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: They'll have it down here in about twenty minutes, and

897
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: it's it's like fantastic, So might just go with the

898
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: pizza last question. If you could smoke with anybody, dead

899
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,280
Speaker 1: or alive, who would it be. Oh, that's easy. Dave Chapelle.

900
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he is freaking awesome, and it would

901
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: be my goal to make him laugh. I swear to God,

902
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: I think I could make that guy laugh. I thought

903
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: I could make Dave Chapelle laugh. I would feel like

904
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: I could go to heaven. I was gonna say, I

905
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: thought you're gonna say, Bob. But Dave Chappelle. Did you

906
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: see his last special on Netflix or the one that

907
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: was on YouTube. Yeah, that was that was deep. He

908
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: wasn't too too funny. He was very deep. You know,

909
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: we talk about those subjects too. Yeah, you know, I

910
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: wanted to to tell you. You know, I really feel that,

911
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: you know, I hope you get this because I read

912
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: your energy, man, and I think you're you're you seem

913
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: to be a great person, and if you do, I'd

914
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: like to follow up on you and stay with you

915
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: through the process of it, just to see how things

916
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: are turning out, because you know, I think it's it

917
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: is about the community. I think it is about the

918
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: structure of you know, being in this is not the military,

919
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: and having the way you Yeah, the way you broke

920
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: that down to me, Um, it makes sense because sometimes

921
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: we do feel like the police or the enemy. And

922
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: I always say, you know, to people, don't get it twisted. Man.

923
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: The moment you need a police officer is the is

924
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 1: the moment you love you know what, I love them,

925
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: and and and and not everybody thinks they need them,

926
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: but you know, if their mother needs them, or your

927
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: cousin needs them, or your friend needs them, that's the

928
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: moment you love them, you know. And and it's just

929
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: the moment that they're pulling you over and they're you know,

930
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: diving through your stuff, you hate them. So I understand

931
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: that the division there. But again, if the police officers

932
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: were more down to earth, more into the community, more

933
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: discussing with people, like you said, pull up next them,

934
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: hey man, you know your your back bumpers, dragon, you

935
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: need to fix it, your your lights out, And they

936
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: just gave them those those one ups. They would get

937
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: that back. I think from the city, the people, especially

938
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 1: in the urban communities, because urban communities get it better

939
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: than anybody. It's just when they're treated like you know,

940
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 1: animals are treated like you know, you know, lower get

941
00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: it loses the I literally had a phone conversation yesterday afternoon,

942
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: and I was driving home from work, and I was

943
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: talking to a young girl that I haven't talked to

944
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 1: in a long time. We were just her name is Pauline,

945
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: and we're just reminiscing. For some reason, she was on

946
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: my heart in my mind, and for whatever reason, we

947
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: started talking politics live. I haven't talked to her in years?

948
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: How long? How long was this? This is yesterday my

949
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: way home. But here I'm gonna get to the moral

950
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: of the story was we talked about cops and BLM

951
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: and all this stuff. She goes, Joe, do you realize

952
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: the first time I ever got pulled over with the

953
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: cops was when I was with you here in l A.

954
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: And I go, damn. That was about like fifteen years ago,

955
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: twenty years ago. She goes, Do you remember what happened?

956
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: I go no, I don't really remember. She goes, I'll

957
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 1: never forget it. It It was her first time being pulled

958
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: over by the cops. She goes, Joe, we were making

959
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: a left turn. A homeless person came out. You stopped

960
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: so that you didnt hit the homeless person. Then you

961
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: kept going. The cops came on. You came at you

962
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: at gunpoint, pulled you out of the car, pulled us

963
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 1: out of the car. She goes, I was like, why

964
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: are they treating you like this? And I was like, oh,

965
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 1: no wonder, I was no big deal because I'm used

966
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: to it. I was a bald head of Mexican. No

967
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: wonder why it didn't stick to me and excise me.

968
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: She was going, Oh, I don't even remember it that much.

969
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: She goes, Joe, I'll never forget it. And you're just like, oh,

970
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: just being nice and normal. But the cops pulled you

971
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: at a gunpoint, and then we were scared of her,

972
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: this other girlfriend of ours, Adriana, And so I was like,

973
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,919
Speaker 1: oh my god, I remember the story, but I don't

974
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,720
Speaker 1: remember it so well. Then she goes, at that first moment,

975
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: I got kind of like, man, cops are kind of dicks,

976
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: Like why they do this to my boy? Right? Then

977
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: she goes, I got pulled over in North Hollywood and

978
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,439
Speaker 1: the cop was an asshole yelling at her. She goes,

979
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: why can't you just give me my ticket and keep

980
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: it moving? Like what are you yelling at before? What

981
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: did I do? Just give me my ticket? I didn't.

982
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: I didn't use my blinker and and the more of

983
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: the stories. Cops have been this way for years, the

984
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: way they act, and for a lot of us minorities

985
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: who have been treated this way, sometimes we forget about

986
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: it because it's just the way we grew up. Like

987
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: I didn't even remember that that time being pulled over

988
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: at gunpoint. I could think of about three other times

989
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: I was pulled over at gunpoint, and this time I

990
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: was good because I was sober at the time and

991
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: I knew nothing's gonna happen to me. But fuck, this

992
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: is our reality of being a minority. Like you forget

993
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: it sometimes because it's so normal. I don't. And that's

994
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: the other more of the story. She reminded me of

995
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 1: a story that I got pulled over a gun point

996
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: and I looked at it as normal behavior. And I

997
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 1: was a I was a kid girl up in Detroit

998
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: of cops for a coin toss. You never know what

999
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: you were gonna get. And half of them were assholes.

1000
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: Half of them are decent, but they or just didn't care.

1001
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: More like it. And I've had my fair shares of

1002
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 1: being beaten with flashlights in the back of cop cars

1003
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: with my hands cut handcuff behind my back, but we

1004
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: had the Michigan State Police, and the Michigan State Police

1005
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: wore those funny hats with a little strap around their chin,

1006
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: and they were very professional. If you did something wrong,

1007
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: they pulled you over. Excuse me, sir. So here I've

1008
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: got this thirty year old man calling me some eighteen

1009
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: year old kids, sir, may I please have your driver's license?

1010
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, And here's why I pulled you over.

1011
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: And when you got pulled over, even as a punk

1012
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 1: kid of growing up in Detroit, you respected them because

1013
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: they weren't trying to twist you over something you didn't do.

1014
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: They weren't giving you any crap. They were treating you professionally.

1015
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: And that made a big impression on me. And I

1016
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: think that all police should be professional. It is so

1017
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: much so that here in Panella's County, I'm actually gonna

1018
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: start a website that I call Andy's List, like Andy Taylor,

1019
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 1: where we're gonna be able to rate cops all across

1020
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: the whole country with the Yelp ratings zero star at

1021
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: the five stars, bad prop experience. You could go put

1022
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: it on there, and I'm hoping to make this national

1023
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: so that you can do this in your community, so

1024
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: you can actually go out there and see which cops

1025
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: have bad reviews and which cops have good Mr Checkpoint

1026
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: has that exactly. So we have a we have a

1027
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: guy that we work with the name Mr Checkpoint, and

1028
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: he has one very similar to what you're talking about

1029
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: that he started that app. He's always remember the name

1030
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: of astag always filmed the police. Yeah, a FTP always

1031
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 1: filled the police. I'm not sure the name of his

1032
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: his app, but it might be under Mr Checkpoints in

1033
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: the app store. I'm not sure. Yeah, but you know,

1034
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: I I command you. I value everything that you're discussing, man,

1035
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: And like I said, my hat's off to you. I

1036
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: really do hope you know, because we we came in

1037
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: this to you know, looking into you and and diving

1038
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: into your your you know, what's your stand for? Because

1039
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: it's important right now, you know. And if you know

1040
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,479
Speaker 1: you're gonna come on our show or any other show

1041
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: in the country right now and you're running for sheriff,

1042
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: you know, people want to hear you. We want to

1043
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: know what your stances, you know, because there's so much

1044
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,919
Speaker 1: going on right now it is we like that stance.

1045
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: It's a coin toss but I listened to you, and

1046
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: I appreciate yours, so I vote for you. There's there's

1047
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: one thing I wanted to have mentioned when of you

1048
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 1: guys were talking about what happens if if it's if

1049
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: we uh decriminalize it and they lose all the arrest

1050
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 1: money from doing that. But in my position here, if

1051
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: we have cannabis freedom, like real cannabis freedom, where everybody

1052
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: can grow their own if they want, if they can,

1053
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: if if someone owns the smoke shop, they can grow

1054
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: their own and put their own stuff in their own

1055
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: counter if they want to, if they can sell it

1056
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: amongst friends. If you're too lazy to grow your own,

1057
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: your neighbor down the streets growing. I picture older people

1058
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 1: having gardening parties and exchanging recipes. I mean, if we

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Speaker 1: have something like that, we're going to be such a

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Speaker 1: the restaurants, the bars, that everything that we live out

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Speaker 1: here at a tour basic economy is going to literally

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Speaker 1: double in less than two years, in my opinion. And

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Speaker 1: then when that happens, everybody's gonna be making money, everybody's

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Speaker 1: gonna have good jobs, everybody's rent is gonna be paid.

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Speaker 1: And instead of the police, the growers and the the

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Speaker 1: dispensaries making all the money, the money will just flow

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Speaker 1: through the community. And as it flows through the community,

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Speaker 1: the government will get there is too. Well. We wanna,

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Speaker 1: we wanna. We want to thank you for being on

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Speaker 1: this show. James and n you please tell us where

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Speaker 1: your donation site was one more time. Yes, Nick Lennis

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Speaker 1: for Sheriff dot com, M c l y n A

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Speaker 1: s for shriff dot com. And I really need the

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Speaker 1: cannabis community to support me because if you guys go

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Speaker 1: in Van Ellis, I promise you I will teach sheriff

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Speaker 1: all across the country to do exactly what I'm doing.

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Speaker 1: Hey man, well there it is guys, this Cannabis Talk

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Speaker 1: one on one. Remember this. If no one else loves you,

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Speaker 1: James mcclinis, does we do. That's right. Thank you for

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