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Speaker 1: is a special report because you got the source Krins

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Speaker 1: one didn't come out, so I had to bend it

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00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: back and I sat down and I just started kicking

425
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 1: the screen. I kicked it, I don't know, probably a

426
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 1: dozen times. And I told him, I said, well, you're right,

427
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,360
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't get through this. I can't break

428
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 1: it down. They're they're screwed in better than I thought.

429
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: He goes okay, and I said, well, just hanking tough.

430
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see if I can jim me this lock somehow.

431
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: So um, so I took a flathead screw driver and

432
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: I stuck it into the dead bolt and just started

433
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: reefing on it, you know, just you know, thinking I'm

434
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 1: never going to get this open, and and uh, you know,

435
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: lo and behold. After about the sixth three pulled jim

436
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: In did enough and it's the door popped open. Oh yeah,

437
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: when that popped open, it was you know again, I'm

438
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 1: talking it's ninety degrees by this time, and you know,

439
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: it a wall of stench. Just it just about knocked

440
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: me over, absolutely worse than normal. There's a reason they

441
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 1: tell you to keep the lids closer, to keep the

442
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: lids closed. But um so, once I kind of got

443
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: through the whole, man, that's that's that's awful. I I

444
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: looked expecting to see a guy stuck in the pedestal,

445
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 1: but the pedestal toilet is laying on the floor and

446
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 1: he's in the hole and as I can see is

447
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: his head and you know, he's kind of resting with

448
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: his arms up on the on the floor. So he

449
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 1: had taken those toilets, that toilet often. I didn't know

450
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: you could do it. And then as soon as I

451
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 1: saw that, I went, oh, that's how they clean those out,

452
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: you know, because I was sure I was wondering, you know, God,

453
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: that's gotta be a pain in the butt. You know,

454
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: go get the septic truck or who whatever, pumps him

455
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: out and stick it down that and you know, never,

456
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: you know, it's not like I lay awake at night

457
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: wondering how they clean bolt toilets. But how how wide

458
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: is that? What's the aperture on that whole? Um? Oh? Three?

459
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 1: You know it's it's kind of it's just round dish,

460
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:53,239
Speaker 1: maybe ovalish, three feet, you know. So he must have

461
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: had limited upper body strength because if you can get

462
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: your elbows up through a hole, well, he was so

463
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,719
Speaker 1: so when I got when I saw him, you know,

464
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: when I when I saw his head, I didn't think much.

465
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: I just kind of thought, oh, this is weird. How old?

466
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: How old is he? Oh? I suppose he's in his

467
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: you know, early forties, only forties, younger than yeah, yeah,

468
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 1: are you older than young forties? Okay, so yeah, younger,

469
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: probably younger than you. Certainly younger than me. Like I

470
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 1: somehow I like to picture older than me. Yeah, well

471
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: we can do that. So I I I when I

472
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: got through and I walked up to him, I just

473
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: kind of went, hey, how you doing? And he goes, well,

474
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: I've been fucking better. So anyway, I said, yeah, I'm

475
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: sure you have. I'm sure you have. So I walked

476
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: up to him and I looked in. He pretty much

477
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: fills up the whole hole. I mean, he's a big

478
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: he's a big man. Um. But I looked. I went, oh,

479
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: he's naked. He doesn't have any clothes on. I turned

480
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: and I looked at the door, and I went, yeah,

481
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: he is naked. All his clothes are hanging on the

482
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: hook in the door. And I said, so you took

483
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: all your clothes off, and goes, Yeah. I didn't want

484
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: to get him dirty. So I hung him up and

485
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: crawl down in here and get it, get the phone,

486
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: and and and you know, and I was just gonna

487
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: crawl out, He goes, I just can't get myself out.

488
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: I just don't have the strength. And I keep getting

489
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: my body keeps getting stuck on the whole because he's he's,

490
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: he's he was a mountain of a man. Like, what's

491
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: what's the volume of waste down in the vault? Uh? Well,

492
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: I I I'll get into that little later. I can't

493
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: say exactly, only based on sound like the level of

494
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: commitment to get down in there from him. Yeah, Well

495
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: it would be a matter. It's simply have just taken

496
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: the vault toilet off or you're going in You going,

497
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I would say he's probably knee deep in there. Okay,

498
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if it had been just so recently

499
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: cleaned that he felt like he could stand over in

500
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: the corner and be on pavement. No, no, no, you

501
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: were down. You were not going to avoid anything that

502
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: was down in that hole. Knee, Yeah, that would be

503
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: my guess. And and so um So when I walked in,

504
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: I the first thing I saw actually was his phone.

505
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: He got his phone. He reached down in there and

506
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: dug around and got and the phone was, you know,

507
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: just laying there on the on the on the floor

508
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: and lit up. It was still working, So he was successful.

509
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: Why why hadn't he called there? There is no cell

510
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: service there. It's absolutely that entire big hole valley is

511
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: completely void of cell service. That sounds like a good placed.

512
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: Three hours no one shows up, But can't you call

513
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: like one without yeah, soul service. I have no idea.

514
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: Uh did you ever find out what he was doing

515
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: or how the phone got in there? All's he said

516
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: was he was he stopped there to do some fishing,

517
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: and he said, well, I had some business to take

518
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: care of and before and he went in there and

519
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: he said, he just dropped his phone into the toilet.

520
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,719
Speaker 1: Mm hmm uh. You know it sounds like you know,

521
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: something everybody's done. I don't usually take my phone in

522
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: anywhere that has no cell service, in a vault, even

523
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: if it does, I don't take my phone in there

524
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: just because you know, how many times have you taken

525
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: a you know, something in with you and it's slipped

526
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: out and went in there. It's like, oh crap, but no,

527
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,479
Speaker 1: that's down there, but it's going to stay there. But

528
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: I just think he walked in and I don't know

529
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: if he slipped or went to turn and the phone slip,

530
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: but it dropped down in there, and and he was

531
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: adamant he was going to get it, you know, I

532
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: can't tell you why. And the phone on the floor

533
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: was soiled. Yeah, well it was, Yeah, no doubt it

534
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:33,479
Speaker 1: was soiled. But it was still working, you know. I mean,

535
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: you know, you know, like I dropped my phone in

536
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: our hot tub at home a week or so ago

537
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: and pulled it out, you know, within about thirty seconds,

538
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: and it still works. So yeah, you know, so liquid solids,

539
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: if you know, I think it was an iPhone. I

540
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: think they're you know, they're pretty solid, pretty solid products.

541
00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: So um So anyway, so I told the guy, I said, well,

542
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: and he was all scraped up. He had scrapes everywhere

543
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: on his body from trying to get out because edges

544
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: are pretty sharp on those on those holes. I mean,

545
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: they're just completely square. And I was just like, uh yeah, man,

546
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: the poor guy. And so I said, well, we're going

547
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: to try the easiest thing first, and I said, I'm

548
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: just gonna come. I said, I'm gonna go get some gloves,

549
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: and I said he was okay, And so as I

550
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: was walking, I turned around trying to make a joke,

551
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: and he didn't think it was very funny. But I

552
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: turned around and said, don't go anywhere. I'll be right back,

553
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: and he goes, I'm not gonna go anywhere. Okay, Well

554
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: that's not so I went and got my gloves and

555
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: I came back in and I said, all right, I'm

556
00:33:53,640 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: gonna grab your hand and under your elbow arm armpit area,

557
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: and I said, you just push with your other hand.

558
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: Let's just see if I can pull you up. I said,

559
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard, but maybe it's our first, you know,

560
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: the first thing we gotta do. He was okay, So

561
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: you know, I said, I'm gonna say one, two, three,

562
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: go and on go, just start working. I said, okay.

563
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: So I grabbed his hands, his hand as you know,

564
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: there's arm pit, and I went one, two, three, go,

565
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: and I went to lift. I I didn't move them

566
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: an eighth of an inch. I mean, it was just

567
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: I just went, hell, this is not gonna work, and

568
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: he goes, yeah, plus I'm tired. I just can't. I

569
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: can't push myself up. I went, okay. So, uh you know,

570
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: he did say, he goes, if I could get just

571
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: a little elevation something to stand on, it might help,

572
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: you know, help push myself out as your lift. And

573
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: I said, okay. I said, well, I don't have anything

574
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: in my in my truck. Uh you know, I I

575
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,439
Speaker 1: did think, well, I could put you know, Kristen down

576
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:04,439
Speaker 1: in the hole and stand on her shoulders, but I don't.

577
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: I don't think she would have gone for that. So

578
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: so I went, you know, I just did not have

579
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: anything in my truck. I had a couple of fly

580
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: rods and uh, you know a little travel bag, and

581
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: that wasn't gonna work. So I went to his pickup

582
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: and I looked in the back and he had two

583
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: pieces of would basically you know, quarter sections like firewood

584
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: that were um, we're chopped that he had back there.

585
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: So so I grabbed one of those and uh, I

586
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: took that in and I said, let's try this. He goes, well,

587
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: it might be pretty wobbly. I don't know if it's

588
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: gonna work. I said, well, we really don't have a

589
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: whole lot of options right now. I mean, we got

590
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: to give this a try. And he goes, yeah, you're right.

591
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: I said, so can you get that down there? Because

592
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: I'm looking at him, I'm looking at the whole and

593
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: I'm going there isn't a quarter inch or how bench

594
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: of room between his body and it's a tight fit

595
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 1: even when he duck away from the hole. Yeah, yeah,

596
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: he could. I mean, you know, like I said, he was,

597
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: he was. He was a big man. And I I

598
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: just just like, I don't know how we can get

599
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: this in there. But you'll see, you know, I'll let

600
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: him do what he needs to do and to see

601
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: if he can, you know, squase it between his So

602
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: I said, okay, take this and let's give this a try.

603
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: Give this a shot. He goes, I said, yeah, can

604
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: you get that in there? And he goes, oh, yeah,

605
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: I can get it. I can get it there. And

606
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: I said okay. So I gave him a block of

607
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: wood and he dropped in the hole and I just went,

608
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: holy shit. I was like, oh my god, he's gone.

609
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 1: He fell in, he sunk. He's just you know, and

610
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 1: I didn't know what, you know. I was just kind

611
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: of freaked out about it. And I hear him down

612
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: in the hole just walking around. Knowledge you can hear,

613
00:36:55,120 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: you know, it's the sound you can of all this

614
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 1: here stuff coming up between his toes, like walking through

615
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: the marsh. Yeah. Yeah. And so the you know, the

616
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: block of wood is you know, maybe twelve inches tall,

617
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe sixteen inches, and you can hear

618
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: him down there, you know, pushing it down and getting

619
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: his studies. He guys down, his head pops back up.

620
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: I said, did you get it in there? And he goes, yeah,

621
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: it's kind of wobbly, but you know it might work.

622
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 1: And I went, okay, okay, And now I'm looking at thinking,

623
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: I don't know which hand he used to do that,

624
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: but I had a long sleeve shirt and gloves. I that, okay, well,

625
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: we just got to get this poor guy out of here.

626
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: And had had had you at this point, has you

627
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: thought I'm gonna leave this to the professionals, or were

628
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: you just like committed to making at this point, I

629
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: was a d percent committed to get him out, uh,

630
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: you know, just to see if we could get him out,

631
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: because you know, he'd been in there for three hours.

632
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: And it's like, you know, so i'd call you a

633
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: good Smaritan. But my understanding of a Smaritan is they

634
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: were generally bad people. Yeah, some people say someone's a

635
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: good smart and they're messing it up. It's like a

636
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: good Smaritan was, these are like bad people, but here

637
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: one did a good turn. That was my understanding. A

638
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: little known fact about being a good Smarit. No, I

639
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't throw that around because you might

640
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: be like, well, what's wrong with me? Well, no, I

641
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 1: actually was kind of thinking about that. Technically probably fits.

642
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: So you're really good at being a bad person, really

643
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 1: good at being a bad person, that's right. So so anyway,

644
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: you're just a nice guy. Next time you go into

645
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: the coffee shot, you can when and you can be like, hey,

646
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: can you give me the nice guy deal? And'd be like, really, bro, listen,

647
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: pull the dude out of a well. But you know,

648
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: and really, where I was thinking is you know, when

649
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: I go inside of all toilet, hopefully somebody will do

650
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: the same. So anyway, so we got he's got the

651
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: block of wood down there, and he comes up and

652
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: goes that giving you a little more elevation. He goes, yeah,

653
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: a little bit, but pretty wobbily. He said, well, let's

654
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: give it a try, and so he stood up on

655
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: it and TELL lifted him up a little bit, but

656
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: not a lot. That might be enough. And I said,

657
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: just keep your knee bent, and when I say go,

658
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: just push yourself and even if it falls over, it

659
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 1: might give you enough momentum to get up. Because okay,

660
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: So then one, two, three go, I went left block

661
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: of wood fell over, and we got no further than

662
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: we did the other way. I said, okay, let me

663
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: go get that other block of wood. I said, let's

664
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: we can make at least a half a block half around, yeah,

665
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: or a half around, And so I I went and

666
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: got the other one, handed it to him. He went

667
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: back in the hole, um squished around in there. Now

668
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: that didn't bother me at all. So we had you

669
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: guys introduced yourselves to each other, yet, like were you

670
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: on a first name basis? Well, we did, he I

671
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: asked him what his name was, and I was so

672
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: freaked out. I didn't really pay attention to what his

673
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: name was. But but we'll say his name was Steve

674
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: Chris And are you getting in there and helping him?

675
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: Was kind of hanging around? No, I was just kind

676
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: of hanging out because there's nothing I could have done. Um.

677
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: But one thing I do have to say about Joe

678
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: is that he always he was so calm with him.

679
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 1: He never like freaked out, never, and he would talk

680
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: to him just trying to keep him calm right because

681
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 1: he's been in there for three hours already, And so

682
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: I was really impressed with that, is because he just

683
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: kept him calm, going, you know, but we're going to

684
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: do this, We're going to get you out, you know,

685
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: just hang tight kind of thing. So you picked the

686
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,919
Speaker 1: right guy all those thirty two years ago, I did. Yes, Yes,

687
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 1: for sure, Yes, the guy getting tan could you could

688
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: you sense there was like a little bit of like anxiety. Yeah,

689
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: he was, you know, um you know, and and obviously

690
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 1: the thing is just heating up and when you take

691
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 1: that's just now it's just a hole. The it's hot,

692
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: the gases are much worse. I mean it's just because

693
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: it starts to the gate that it starts to the

694
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: gate that vent pipe. That vent pipe is not getting

695
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: it's not drawn a draft. Yeah, and it's it was,

696
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: and it was bad. So so I put the other

697
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: block of wood down and basically got the same result.

698
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:42,919
Speaker 1: It just wasn't gonna work. So this is where I went, Okay, well,

699
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: in my truck, I've got rope and I've got a

700
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: toe strap. So I was kind of looking and I thought, well,

701
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: you know, they've got the the bar in there for um,

702
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: you know, then the handicap bar. I thought that's not

703
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: gonna work, and I don't want to rip that off

704
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: the wall. And I thought, well, I could pull my

705
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: truck up, and I thought, ropes out, that's just not

706
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: gonna work. But the toast drop, you know whatever, four

707
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: inches wide, and I thought, well, I could hook it

708
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: to my truck and have him wrap it around maybe

709
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: pull him out. Went no, that's not gonna work. I

710
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: thought well, I could drop it down and maybe he

711
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: could use it to try to climb up. And I

712
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: thought he's not gonna be able to do that either.

713
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: And this at this points when I thought, well, you know,

714
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: I never actually thought about calling nine one one, but

715
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: I did think about I thought I might have to

716
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: drive over to there's a couple of ranch houses. I thought,

717
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: maybe drive over there, and they probably have a landline

718
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: we can call and then we can get you know,

719
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: professional rescue crew there. And so I was sitting here

720
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: and I was trying to say, how what am I

721
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 1: going to do here? And maybe I'll maybe I'll just

722
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: drive to the ranch house. And I'm still talk into

723
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: the guy, but I'm thinking about what I want to do.

724
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: And I hear another vehicle drive up, and and so

725
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: I I thought, oh, it's fantastic. I said, hey, I

726
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: just heard a vehicle drive up. I'm gonna see if

727
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: somebody's in there that might be able to give us

728
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: a hand. He goes okay, and sort of being in

729
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: a in a bit of a smartass move, I started

730
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: walking out. You turn around, and I went, don't go anywhere,

731
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: just stay right there. And he thought it was about

732
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: as funny as he did the first. So so I

733
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:38,959
Speaker 1: went out and Kristen had waved him down and stopped him,

734
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: and uh, and so I walked up and and and

735
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: when you when you stop them, what did you say? Well?

736
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: I just kind of flagged him down, because sometimes when

737
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: you go to a place like that, it's like, oh

738
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: or else, somebody's already there. We're just gonna leave, right,

739
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: So I didn't want him to leave, so I was

740
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 1: just flagging him down. Then they pull up and um,

741
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 1: husband and wife for boy for girlfriend. So he was driving.

742
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: She was on the passenger side, of course, so she

743
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: rolled down the window. About that time Joe came out.

744
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: So you're you're able to introduce the subject, yes, So

745
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 1: so I walked up and she rolled down the window,

746
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: and you know, the guy they were actually coming there.

747
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: They wanted to do a little bit of fishing, and

748
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: and so I walked up to the window and I

749
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: kind of leaned up under the passenger window and kind

750
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: of stuck my head in because just so the guy

751
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: at the vault toilet wouldn't hear the conversation. And I said,

752
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: I could use I need I need a hand, I

753
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: need some help. And the guy goes, well, what's going on?

754
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 1: I said, And he had a hat on, had has

755
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: a ponytail coming out the back and and I go, well, uh,

756
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 1: there's a guy stuck in the vault toilet. I mean

757
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: like stuck neck deep in the hole, and I had

758
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: to break in, and the door was locked, and I

759
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: had to break in and and I found him. He's

760
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: been in there for three hours and closer to four

761
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 1: hours now. And the guy just took his hat off,

762
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: kind of pulled his ponytail out, rubbed his head, put

763
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: his hat back on, put his ponytail back in his hat.

764
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: He looked out. It was just just cracked me up.

765
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: And looked out, you know, stared off out the windshield

766
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 1: for about five seconds. He kind of had this look

767
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: on his face. Then he just turned and looked at

768
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: me and goes, well, there's something I didn't expect to

769
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: hear today. I said, well, that makes two of us.

770
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: I didn't expect to find this either. And I said,

771
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: I said, I just can't get the guy out. I

772
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: can't get him out by myself. I said, between the

773
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 1: two of us, we might be able to lift lift

774
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 1: him out. And he goes, yeah, okay, I'd be happy

775
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: to give you a hand. So he pulled up and yeah,

776
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 1: I said, get gloves. He goes, oh, yeah, he got gloves.

777
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: And so we go walking in and I said, hey,

778
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: I gotta I've got an extra body here. I give

779
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: me a hand. He goes all good good, and the

780
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 1: guy walks in. He goes, hey, how you doing. He goes, well,

781
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: like I told the other guy, but fucking better. He goes, well,

782
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: we'll get you out of here. We'll get this all

783
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: figured out. So the guy goes, hey, hang on a minute,

784
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: I just I'm gonna go out and check something. So

785
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: the guy walks out. Kristan and his wife or his

786
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 1: girlfriend were just kind of standing over by the vehicle,

787
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: and he walks out with his hands on on his

788
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: hips and he just goes what the fuck it was?

789
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: And she and I under standing there, I'm like, I know,

790
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: I know. So he just he just had to get

791
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: that off his chest, and he just kind of looked

792
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: at him. I was like, yeah right. I mean, so

793
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: we walked in and we said, well, let's just do

794
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: the simple thing first, let's give up the old and

795
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: so we get down there and do the same thing.

796
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: I grab an arm, hand, he grabs the other hand.

797
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 1: We okay, one to three, and we this time you

798
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: know where I didn't really budge them before. We maybe

799
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: lifted him, you know, half an inch. It just it

800
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: just wasn't gonna work. And so I told the guy said,

801
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: you know what we need is just something he can

802
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: stand on that we can put down there. I said,

803
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: we put a couple of blocks of wood down there

804
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: that they just weren't steady enough, maybe not talking. He goes,

805
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: I said, do you have anything in your truck? I said,

806
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 1: I don't have anything, and he goes, well, he goes,

807
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: maybe let me let me go look. And so at

808
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: some point in time when this was going on, he

809
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: told his wife, you've got to get a picture or

810
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 1: his girlfriend whatever it was, And that's where that picture

811
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 1: came from. So she just kind of watched. They reported

812
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: it to the they sent it into the well. I

813
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: don't know how it got on Facebook. I have no idea. Well,

814
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: and I'll get to that. The first time I saw

815
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: that picture kind of here at the end of this

816
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: kind of this story, because I didn't know she took pictures.

817
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:24,439
Speaker 1: I didn't know any pictures existed. Let's slot. So the guy,

818
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: we walk over his truck and he's kind of looking

819
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 1: and he's pulling things up. Finally he goes pulls out

820
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: a lawn chair. It's one of those lawn chairs that

821
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: you know, you can fold up, slip into a bag,

822
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: and uh so he pulls that out. He goes, well,

823
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: I'll dedicate this to the cause, you know, and I'm

824
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: kind of bummed out because we introduced ourselves to each other.

825
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: They were great people apparent I think apparently they're from Ennis,

826
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: and you know, just they were really really nice folks

827
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: and good sense of humor. You know, we had pretty

828
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 1: some good chuckles while we're doing this because it's just

829
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: so unbelievable. And and so he grabbed the lawn chair

830
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: and he also grabbed a towel um because he thought,

831
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: you know, if we get him out, you know, I'll

832
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: put it on the edge of the hole because it's

833
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: just a cement floor. You know, he's sweaty, sticky. He

834
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: had a really good idea, get him on the towel

835
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: and then we can kind of slide him, slide him out.

836
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: And so so he laid the towel down. It's like

837
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: a mill, right job. Yeah, yeah, engineering involved in this thing.

838
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: The guy has lawn chair and he's going, I don't

839
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: know how he's going to get this down that hole. Yeah.

840
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 1: I just kind of went, oh, I'm sure he'll figure

841
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: out way. And so he's because he's he's filling the

842
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: whole hole, and I said, well, he'll get it down there.

843
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: So the guy goes, okay, we're gonna use this lawn chair.

844
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: It should be steadier if you can get it opened

845
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 1: up and all four ft. He goes, if you can

846
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: get it down there, and guy goes, yeah, I can

847
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: get it down here. So he hands the guy the

848
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: lawn chair and he's having the same thought I am

849
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: at this point the guy that had gave him a

850
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: lawn chair, Um, and how is he gonna get in there?

851
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 1: And so he gives him the lawnchair. The guy drops

852
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: into the hole, and the guy's going holy, he just

853
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: went fell into I just looked at me, said, oh

854
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: it's okay, it's all good. I've seen that before. He'll

855
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: pop back up and he's like, oh my god. You

856
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: can hear the guy down and there slashing around, and

857
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: you know you hear the lawn chair open up and

858
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: you can hear it hit the ground. He's kind of

859
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: squeezing and that down into the bottom to get it steady.

860
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: And and the guy pops up and we go, you

861
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 1: got that lawn chair steady? And goes, yeah, it's pretty steady,

862
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: and he said okay, Um, we're gonna say one to

863
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: three and on go push yourself up, you know. And

864
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: and I didn't know if the lawn chair would really

865
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: hold with the you know, hold him and stuff. And

866
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: he's standing up on yeah, at this point he standing

867
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: and we looked and we went, this gives us, this

868
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: gives us some some height that a lot better, you know.

869
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: It lifted him up, you know whatever, probably you know,

870
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: so we got more leverage. So he's sitting were on

871
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: his on his torso as the edge of the hole.

872
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 1: After with the lawn chair, uh can so before he

873
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: was only able to go armpit, you know, just resting

874
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: his arms. Now he lifted up about the bottom of

875
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: the sternum. So I mean he went from from basically

876
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: here there so his neck neck up to um. Yeah,

877
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: and and he had he had something he could push

878
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: on to help lift himself a fun So we told

879
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: the guy, we said, okay, we need you to push up,

880
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: but you need to do something for us because otherwise

881
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 1: we're not going to get you out of this hole.

882
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 1: And he goes, well, what's that. We said, as soon

883
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: as we start lifting, you gotta suck in your your gut.

884
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: You gotta suck that gut in so we can get

885
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: you up over the hole. He said, but as soon

886
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: as that your gut starts coming out, you need to

887
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: thrust your ass otherwise it's gonna get stuck on that whole.

888
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 1: So it's suck and thrust and he's okay, okay, yeah,

889
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: its life lesson. So so anyway, so one, two three go,

890
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 1: we grab him, you know, and he forgot to suck

891
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: it first, and so we put him back down and said, okay,

892
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: remember to sucking. You're gotting all right, one two three,

893
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: go and pull him. We said, suck sucking, you gotta suck,

894
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,919
Speaker 1: suck it in, and we got him lifted up and

895
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: then we had, you know, but got stuck on the

896
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 1: other side of the hole, and it said thrust, so

897
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: he thrust. So then he thrust it and up he came,

898
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 1: and we got him on the towel and kind of

899
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: slid him across, and we're just like, you know, so

900
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: now we have this naked guy laying on the towel,

901
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 1: and we just went, okay, you're out. We're gonna go out.

902
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: Just take the towel, wrap it around you and walk

903
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: to the river and go clean yourself. And so we

904
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: just went out and we just went, Holy crap. I

905
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: cannot believe that we just had to do this, But

906
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: we got him out. The guy's good, you know, he was.

907
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: He kind of laid there for a minute just to

908
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: catch his breath. And so we went over and we

909
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: were standing by our vehicles and talking. You know, I

910
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: was thanking him for the help, and you're thanking the

911
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 1: ponytail guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I wish, yeah, we

912
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: introduced ourselves. I wish I could remember for their their names,

913
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: like you'd go fishing with him. Yeah, oh yeah, he

914
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 1: was a good yea And they said they're from Ennis,

915
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: and Chris and I talked at some point in time,

916
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 1: we're gonna go to Ennis. We're gonna go to the

917
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: distillery or the brewery or something. And I'm gonna tell

918
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:22,760
Speaker 1: this story because I'm sure it's floating around and somebody's

919
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 1: going to go. There's no way that guy hasn't gone.

920
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 1: And yeah, and somebody because I bet you he's from Bozeman.

921
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:35,919
Speaker 1: And just didn't want to admit. I want to buy

922
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 1: the guy a bottle of Whiskyers beers or so I

923
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: just yeah, but it's not your But he helped, but

924
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,399
Speaker 1: he helped. Yeah, oh yeah, I mean I just want

925
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 1: to thank him for the for the help. I mean,

926
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: I thanked him, but I want to, you know, thank

927
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: them but a toast or something, you know, because he

928
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: didn't have to he didn't have to stay, but he

929
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: and it was his idea for you should both be honored.

930
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: You know those one you're driving along and you see

931
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: those things like historical marker up ahead, yeah, historical marker. Yeah.

932
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,879
Speaker 1: So so anyway, so we're standing there talking and and

933
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 1: the guy comes walking out. He's got the towel wrapped

934
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,879
Speaker 1: around him, and he's like, oh God, thank you guys.

935
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how much I appreciate that. We're like,

936
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: no problem, you know, jeez, I'm glad we could help.

937
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 1: And and he comes why and he tells the guy

938
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: He goes, I'm gonna buy you a new lawn chair.

939
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: And he goes, no, no, don't worry about it. I

940
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,879
Speaker 1: can get another one of those pretty pretty easily. Don't

941
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: don't worry about that. And so we just said you

942
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: just keep walking, just keep walking to the to the river,

943
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: go take a bath, and he goes, yep, yea, And

944
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 1: so he's got his uh clothes kind of I think

945
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: dangling off his arm or something. He's holding the towel

946
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 1: and he went walking by and and the towel, let's

947
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: just say the towel didn't quite go around around, you know,

948
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 1: he went. He was fine in the front, but we

949
00:55:55,480 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 1: just watched back. The back half just walshed towards the river.

950
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: And so we were just sitting there and we were

951
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:05,959
Speaker 1: kind of talking a little bit, and I said, well,

952
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 1: we're we were actually going to stop and the distiller

953
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: impute and have a Caesar on the way home, and

954
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: and so we were running a little late. But I

955
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 1: went to my truck and I have hand sanitizer in there,

956
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: and I took some and I cleaned myself up, and

957
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 1: I asked, you want some of this. He's like, oh,

958
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: hell yes, So I you know, she said, oh no,

959
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: give me more. So I just emptied my bottle that

960
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 1: you know, it's just a little bottle, gave him. And

961
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 1: we were just like, you know, and so I said, well,

962
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,399
Speaker 1: he goes, well, we're here to fish. And I said,

963
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 1: I'm just guess we're gonna pull our rods out and

964
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna Because it wasn't two o'clock yet, it was

965
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,399
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. It was like eleven, you know, noon,

966
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: and so he goes, I'm we're gonna go fish for

967
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 1: a little bit. Said, yeah, we're gonna We're gonna head

968
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: off to Umpute. You already knew what you were going

969
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: to order. Al yeah, Well we actually talked about it

970
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: when we left the VR. And I guess you know

971
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 1: that because head Frame Distillery is a fantastic distillery. And

972
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: you got a good Caesar and if you can't Caesar

973
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 1: or a Caesar salad, drink, drink the drink. Also get

974
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: your fixing to go get a Caesar. And it's actually

975
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: a gin Caesar, which is the way they makes fantastic.

976
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: So well, there must be a Montana thing because I

977
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: was recently in White Sulfur and someone's like, oh, we

978
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: should go get a Caesar over here. They have good ones.

979
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, what, yeahin Bloody Mary with clam juice. Yeah,

980
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: clamato clamato yeah yeah, but it's just not Tomato with

981
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: juice is just thick and gross tomato juice. It's yeah,

982
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: you're like, I've had enough of the thick, gross stuff.

983
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: So but anyway, so so we said our goodbyes and

984
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: it's so dumbast you know, you didn't exchange phone numbers

985
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: with these folks that you know, we were just I

986
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: was still, you know, we were just kind of I

987
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 1: just wanted to get out there, but you didn't know

988
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: you're a part of a national news I figured this

989
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: was the end of So so we went and I

990
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: told Chris and I said, I gotta stop at the

991
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: bar wise River. I could literally drink a six pack,

992
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: but I just need to stop in there and wash

993
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 1: my hands in the bathroom and I'll get a diet

994
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: pepsi or something until we get to bawt. So we

995
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: walked in and then you know, I went I said, hey, no,

996
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: no one's in there except that there's an older lady.

997
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: And the younger guy behind the bar said, I just

998
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: got to use your bathroom and I'll take it. Just

999
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: how about diet pepsi. You haven't had one of those

1000
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: for ten years? Because okay, So I went in there

1001
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: and I washed about four times, and well they obviously

1002
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 1: Christen had said that my husband's got a story. You know,

1003
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: he said, hey, we got to hear this. So I

1004
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: went through the story, and you know, this is what's funny,

1005
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: isn't the band woman Venus Mars thing. You know she's

1006
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: she's going just like your hero. God, Thank God for

1007
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: people like you. And you know that guy could have died.

1008
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: And I'm saying, the young guy behind the bar was going,

1009
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: how stupid was this guy? It's like, no, you know,

1010
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: the guy made a bad arab and judgment and blah

1011
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. So anyway, we went off and had

1012
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: our our Caesar. I told that the guy that helped me.

1013
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: I said, Hey, one thing I'm gonna do is I'm

1014
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: going to call at WP on Monday. This was a Saturday.

1015
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: The story makes me want to get retired so bad.

1016
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: I just like this whole, groovy guy, phenomenal man. So

1017
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: I said, I know, I know who I have to

1018
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: call over there. I said, I'm not going to call

1019
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: the regional office because they have a new division over

1020
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly what it's called that the outdoor

1021
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: Recreation and something, but I knew they uh that they

1022
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: oversee the access sits now and and uh. And it

1023
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: turns out the division ministrators somebody used to walk work

1024
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 1: down the hall from me, uh in the Capitol building,

1025
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: And so I called her and left a message and

1026
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 1: just uh said, hey, I got something I need to

1027
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: talk to you about it. But the fish Trap fishing

1028
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: access site. Um, if you can give me a call back,

1029
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 1: you appreciate it, you know, I don't know a half

1030
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: hour later, so she calls me and she goes, hey, Joe,

1031
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: let's go and how's the retirement? Said's great? I love it,

1032
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 1: you know, doing a lot of fish in the skiing

1033
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: and you know, traveling and hunting and all that stuff

1034
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,439
Speaker 1: and stuff. And I said, hey, congratulations on the new job.

1035
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: You like it. Yeah, she goes, oh, I love It's

1036
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: my dream job. And yad yad yda. So we got

1037
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: done with the small talk. She goes, what's going on

1038
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: fish Trap? And I went, well, uh, so I told

1039
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: her the story and she's, you know, going kind of

1040
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: laughing and going, oh my god. I did not know

1041
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: I was gonna start my monday like this. And uh

1042
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: and so I told her, I said, oh, look, I

1043
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: just want you to know. I told her about the

1044
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: event and I had to pry the lock h and

1045
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 1: I said, I just want you to realize no, that

1046
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: it wasn't vandalism, that it was you know, this is

1047
01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: what happened yeah, and oh. She goes, why apreciate that?

1048
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 1: I said, oh, by the way, I because I just

1049
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 1: told her we got him. And I said, by the way, um,

1050
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 1: I do need you to apologize for the maintenance staff

1051
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: for me when they go there, like, who doesn't want

1052
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: stuff down? The vaul's got a chair? I said. She goes, well,

1053
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 1: what do you mean? I said, well, because they're going

1054
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 1: to find two blocks of wood in a lawn chair

1055
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 1: inside and she just what I said, Well, we had

1056
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 1: to use these as part of the extraction, and and

1057
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: she goes okay, okay. So I said just let them know.

1058
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 1: And she goes, okay, well, maybe a game ward might

1059
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 1: want to call you just to file report. I said

1060
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 1: it's fine, and one never did. But I said, I

1061
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 1: also wanted to make sure you had it on records

1062
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 1: what happened, because you know, I said, certainly in my career,

1063
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: you know, you see various frivolous lawsuits somebody tries to

1064
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 1: soothe the state for something. I said, I just wanted

1065
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 1: to know if that happened, you know where you need

1066
01:01:55,680 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: to come. She goes, okay, great, well I gotta text

1067
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 1: the next day from her and she goes, does this

1068
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 1: look familiar and it was that picture and I went

1069
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 1: in Vice. No, no, this is before anything happened. This

1070
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: is two days after the whole extraction. And I looked

1071
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 1: at it. I went, where did you get that? And

1072
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 1: she said, well, the maintenance guys. Why so I can

1073
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: only imagine she called the maintenance people and they were like, wow,

1074
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,439
Speaker 1: oh my god, what And he probably told his wife

1075
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: somehow she found it on Facebook and found this picture

1076
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: and you know, and send it the picture that was snapped. Yeah,

1077
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 1: the picture that you see on Vice. And I looked

1078
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 1: at I said, where did you get that? And she said, well,

1079
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 1: the maintenance guy's wife found it on Facebook. I was like,

1080
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 1: and I asked it, do you have any idea who

1081
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 1: posted that? And um, she didn't. But that was the

1082
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 1: first time I saw the picture, and quite us, I

1083
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 1: showed Kristen. We had a chuckle. I sent it to

1084
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 1: my my boys and said, oh, yeah, here's here's a picture.

1085
01:02:56,880 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 1: And that's where I thought it was pretty much gonna end.

1086
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: And then um, I Kristen, I'm not on Facebook on

1087
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: my Instagram, but she started seeing all these Facebook posts

1088
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 1: and then people she knows started reposting it and you know,

1089
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: re sharing it, and pretty soon you're like solely that

1090
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 1: guy that landed that plan, and I'm just like I

1091
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 1: started reading things. I'm like, oh jeez, that's you know,

1092
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 1: it's just things are sort of getting out of you know,

1093
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 1: because the people are making assumptions of this and that.

1094
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: So uh, I just sort of went, well, it is

1095
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 1: what it is, and we'll just not worry about. And

1096
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 1: then somebody sent me that I think it was the

1097
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 1: Cowboy Daily or whatever, it was Cowboy State Daily. And

1098
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 1: then Karn sent me the Vice article and I was like, oh, yeah,

1099
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 1: well no, I told her. I said, it's yeah, it's

1100
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 1: on something called Vice. It's you know, I assume it's

1101
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 1: some little sort of online rag. She goes, well, no, actually,

1102
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:02,919
Speaker 1: there it's a big it's a big online news organization.

1103
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 1: She and then what clarified it for me was she does,

1104
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 1: like HBO Max or you know some of the streaming

1105
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 1: smart TVs, you'll see an app called Vice, and yeah,

1106
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: I've never paid attention to it. Just well, that's that's it.

1107
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 1: I went, oh, okay. So then I went in and

1108
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 1: read the article. I'm like, well, they did some they

1109
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 1: did some work. They didn't did someone else's They actually

1110
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 1: tracked down finally got to f w P and you

1111
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 1: know that's where they found out when somebody you know,

1112
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 1: but the hand found you. Well they did because I

1113
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 1: called them. They just didn't share my name, which which

1114
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 1: you know, I guess I appreciate it. But long story short,

1115
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 1: I just you know, we're coming back from a long

1116
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 1: road trip. And Chris was like, oh my god, that

1117
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 1: somebody's a son of somebody of a friend of hers

1118
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 1: reposted it, and so she had to text him and say,

1119
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 1: you know that's Joe in the picture. He's like, what

1120
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 1: the hell and she's yeah, A long story, blah blah

1121
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: blah blah. And I was just sort of trying to

1122
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 1: let this go. And and then it was about maybe

1123
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 1: a week or two later that my son sent me

1124
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 1: a text and link to the podcast said, hey, Steve

1125
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 1: and Rella just talked about the ship house extraction on

1126
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 1: his podcast. I went, what And then then now here

1127
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 1: we are, man, then because of my buddy Bruce getting

1128
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 1: ahold of her in and yeah, and now you know

1129
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 1: the whole story. And I don't know, I mean, I

1130
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 1: just kind of blabbed about the story. But if you

1131
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 1: have questions or and you asked some but I just

1132
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 1: was trying to let this thing just sort of fade

1133
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 1: away into the sunset. Yeah, but it's it's just it's

1134
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 1: such an interesting um scenario and there's some and uh

1135
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 1: and I appreciate your efforts on his behalf. Yeah, well

1136
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 1: I sure he probably appreciates it more and you um.

1137
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 1: And I also appreciate that you're you don't you're not

1138
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 1: going out of your way to uh to reveal his identity.

1139
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 1: And I respect his desire for a nononymity. Um. But

1140
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 1: are you guys in touch? No? No, no, no. Two

1141
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 1: ships in the night. It was a one night stand.

1142
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: We went we went camping just this last week and

1143
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 1: Joe and Christian Dorothy and I and another couple. We

1144
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 1: were over in Lincoln and let's get around. Yeah. Yeah,

1145
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 1: we just went over the camp and there's a vault

1146
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 1: toilet there. There's a little campground and so I I

1147
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 1: go walking into the vault toilet and I thought, hey, Joe,

1148
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 1: come here and show me how this how this thing works.

1149
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 1: I mean, because I didn't know you could take the

1150
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 1: pedestal off. Yeah, the sick and so he goes, he goes, well,

1151
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 1: this is a four service one. He says, I'm not

1152
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 1: sure it's the same thing he says, but he walks in.

1153
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: Joe walks in and just kind of bear hugs and

1154
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 1: pedestal puffs right off, so you don't even need to no,

1155
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 1: it just it just slides off. And I looked at that,

1156
01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 1: and he said, Dorothy, go get my camp chair. I said,

1157
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 1: I looked at that, and I and so two pieces

1158
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 1: of Joe looks Joe, Joe standing there, I'm standing there,

1159
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 1: a little standing there, and we both look kind of

1160
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 1: down this cement oval hole, which, like Joe said, about

1161
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 1: two ft by three ft give or taken, and we

1162
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 1: both just kind of glanced in there. It's like peering

1163
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 1: into a volcano. And we both just kind of stood

1164
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 1: back and went, oh God. Then then the whole campfire

1165
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 1: conversation at night was what would it take for you

1166
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 1: to go down into a vault toilet? Yeah, that's my question?

1167
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 1: Can I do it for your fan? And I'm thinking

1168
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 1: to myself, Okay, so a smartphone is a high end

1169
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 1: a thousand dollars. If somebody said I'll give you a

1170
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 1: thousand dollars to crawled down in there, I'd be like, Nope.

1171
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 1: But I think that there's there's issues of um, it's

1172
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 1: really inconvenient to lose your phone. I dropped mind this winter,

1173
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 1: not down a vault toilet, but I dropped mind down

1174
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 1: an ice fish and hole. And you know it's like,

1175
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 1: you're not the thing occurs you isn't well there goes

1176
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 1: a thousand bucks. What occurs to you as like oh yeah,

1177
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 1: like all the things that has lost the inconvenience, they

1178
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 1: can't transfer it now. I can't call my wife now,

1179
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 1: do you. I mean like it's it's not it's not money.

1180
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 1: It's just like, oh really, so I feel that I would. Honestly,

1181
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 1: there's plenty of people that and I've had I raised

1182
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:29,440
Speaker 1: three kids. You get to where your relationship to excrement

1183
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 1: having babies just changes a lot. Manly. It's not you know,

1184
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 1: general general public. Yeah, no, it's it's very different. Don't

1185
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 1: mean I don't mean to draw like a total parallel

1186
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 1: between what's in that hole and raising kids, just saying,

1187
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 1: you know, just that that everything kind of changes over time.

1188
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 1: And if I had dropped rather than going down ice

1189
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 1: fishing hole, um, if I had dropped it in the

1190
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 1: vault to that, I don't know that I I would get

1191
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 1: in there and when pressed. I'm pretty crafty about stuff

1192
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 1: like that. I feel like I would have fashioned up. Um.

1193
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 1: I would have gotten some para cord and a couple

1194
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 1: of willow limbs and fashioned up with tongue or make

1195
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 1: like a little fishnet thing, big salad tongue fishing net.

1196
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I wouldn't have been like that,

1197
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,640
Speaker 1: goes my phone. Yeah, yeah, I mean I would have

1198
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 1: been in there figuring it out. I'd have had Yanni

1199
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 1: hang ankles down in there. I think I would have

1200
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 1: been hanging. I was like, I can't, you're slipping. Yeah,

1201
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 1: it's crazy. Yeah, so you know, I did you know

1202
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: I could do that with her, you know, because she's tiny.

1203
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 1: Drop down in there. You guys could have a little service. Yeah, yeah,

1204
01:09:55,640 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 1: contract ourselves out to you know, different government agencies stop

1205
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 1: for specialty cocktails. We could use that for a retirement.

1206
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 1: Many start started saving up money for the thirty third anniversary.

1207
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 1: That's that's right, well on behalf of Americans on behalf

1208
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 1: of Montana's thanks for fishing that guy out of the toilet. Yeah,

1209
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:23,600
Speaker 1: you're welcome. And I hope the guy never does that.

1210
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 1: I can and I'm pretty sure he won't. But if

1211
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 1: he does, I can't guarantee I'll be there, but to

1212
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 1: step up with no derision, no condescension, and step up

1213
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 1: and help man out of the toilet. That's American elbow grease. Yeah, yeah,

1214
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,679
Speaker 1: thanks for coming to tell the story. That's good, Gunny.

1215
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 1: Final thoughts on that one, Ni, No, I bet he's

1216
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 1: got one of those fancy lanyards now on his phone

1217
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 1: hanging around his neck, or like those old chain drive

1218
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:59,759
Speaker 1: wall let's just get one to hold your phone on there. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1219
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 1: the belt. I appreciate. I appreciate you guys coming in.

1220
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 1: I hope you enjoy your retirement. How Bruce, how long

1221
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 1: you and Dorothy you guys been married? How long we've

1222
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 1: been married? Twenty five years? Years? All right? Yeah? I

1223
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 1: love it, yep, yep, and I've been still get along

1224
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:18,760
Speaker 1: we do. We do as long as I listen to

1225
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 1: everything she tells me. That's good. You know what, I

1226
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 1: got one last favorite? Hit us with your best piece

1227
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 1: of marriage vice best each couple, I would say for

1228
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 1: Dorothy and I what works the best is, uh, we

1229
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:36,680
Speaker 1: allow each other to do the things that interest each other,

1230
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 1: so we allow each other to be individuals. I mean,

1231
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 1: you participate in or you let them give them room

1232
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 1: to go do what they want to do, exactly both,

1233
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, Okay, Dorothy hit it was

1234
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 1: he does a lot of fishing and a lot of

1235
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:51,640
Speaker 1: hunting that doesn't include me. And I have some of

1236
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:54,600
Speaker 1: the things I like to do that I don't include him.

1237
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:56,759
Speaker 1: But we also do a lot of things together as well.

1238
01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 1: So what's your what's your number one marriage advice? Allowing

1239
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:04,760
Speaker 1: each other space? Oh you guys have you guys kind

1240
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 1: of have the same philosophy. Absolutely, Yeah, Okay, Joe, well

1241
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:14,600
Speaker 1: he took my thunder. Yeah. Really, it's just like a

1242
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 1: really important component of a long marriage. Well, yeah, I

1243
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 1: think it's important to have time away, um, you know,

1244
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 1: and go do the things you're interested in. And you know,

1245
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:30,799
Speaker 1: I can I do what we call guy trips, you know, hunting, fishing,

1246
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 1: you know whatever, and she does girl trips. You know,

1247
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 1: it takes off and goes somewhere and might be a weekend,

1248
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 1: might be a week or whatever however long. But I

1249
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:45,639
Speaker 1: you know, the old absence makes the heart grow fonder yonder.

1250
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 1: So it's you know, I as soon as you said that,

1251
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 1: I went, yeah, it's this and uh, I just think

1252
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 1: it's really really important, you know, to do that. Christ

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01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:01,679
Speaker 1: and hits with your marriage. Boys, Yeah, I would say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so my girls trips that I do are very important

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Speaker 1: to me, and so are his guide trips. And then

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Speaker 1: we do stuff together just the two of us, and

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Speaker 1: then we have a group you know of couples that

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Speaker 1: we do things with that is also really fun. And

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Speaker 1: then our kids. So I I was brought up like that.

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Speaker 1: My parents worked there. They were married sixty some years,

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Speaker 1: so they kind of did the same thing. So I

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Speaker 1: had that to go off of. So hopefully we have

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Speaker 1: to emboy, So hopefully they you know, I think they

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Speaker 1: see how we interact and everything, and I think it

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Speaker 1: just flows down, right, It just everything flows down to

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Speaker 1: your kids and how they watch and everything like that.

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Speaker 1: So enjoy your time together. Yeah, go find time to

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Speaker 1: do your own thing, pursue your own interests, which I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you guys will do, right, Yeah, a little bit,

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of thinking I'm kind of thinking that. Yeah, yes,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for coming on. I think this is

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Speaker 1: the final definitive word unless the individual emerges, but at

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Speaker 1: this point we got the full story. Yeah. Yeah, so well,

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Speaker 1: thanks for thanks for having us, and thanks for having us.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad to be, glad to finally share the story.

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Speaker 1: At least put it off your chest. You get it

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Speaker 1: off my chest. Put it behind you. Thanks, Thanks guys,