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Speaker 4: say hot, and it's like, well, it's la hot.
Speaker 3: There were a couple of days. Oh yeah, it was
Speaker 3: just hot period, Like it would have been hot no
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Speaker 1: So I feel good that it's finally over, and I
Speaker 1: feel good that we're here too.
Speaker 2: Week two a fun week.
Speaker 1: Steve, you were you were talking, I remember in the
Speaker 1: newsroom last week, just Week ones. The ultimate liar.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 4: It's a non true teller to some degree, like some
Speaker 4: teams that's got smoked last week or didn't look good,
Speaker 4: or they'll get it back, and some teams it came
Speaker 4: out like Gangbusters. They'll settle back down to Earth and
Speaker 4: then by week three that's when things will stabilize. I
Speaker 4: mean a lot of guys didn't play in the preseason,
Speaker 4: a lot of guys didn't have to go to the
Speaker 4: headset operation and things like that, So these things will
Speaker 4: be worked out. I don't think the Bengals are going
Speaker 4: on seventeen, you know, so we'll figure some things out.
Speaker 1: Yes, and this is the first time. If you have
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Speaker 2: Hopefully you did.
Speaker 1: It was a great show that we're ordering the games
Speaker 1: every week in order of the point spread. So the
Speaker 1: closer it is, we're going to lead the show, which
Speaker 1: means Patrick, we're probably the only show in the country
Speaker 1: leading with Rams Cardinals.
Speaker 3: Yes, and that's why we start with what the unknown is? Right.
Speaker 3: We journey into the unknown with a divisional matchup in
Speaker 3: the afternoon Sunday. The Rams favored by one and a
Speaker 3: half points, excuse one point. Actually it's the Cardinals. I know.
Speaker 2: I had to reread update.
Speaker 3: I'm looking at the Arizona Cardinals, a one point home
Speaker 3: favorite against the Rams. Both teams coming into h one
Speaker 3: to one. Massive injury report for Los Angeles a Pookinakols
Speaker 3: on our Steve Avilla, the lineman had a knee injury.
Speaker 3: Joe Noteboom left the game with a high ankle sprain.
Speaker 3: Other than that, miss Lincoln, how was the play? Greg
Speaker 3: Is Maddie is nine enough to just go out there
Speaker 3: throw doms and beat the Cardinals?
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's last week.
Speaker 1: It was one of those weeks where McVeigh and Stafford
Speaker 1: both in Cooper Cup ROAs to the moment so well,
Speaker 1: but then when you don't get a W in that spot,
Speaker 1: like can they do it again? Because the Cardinals don't
Speaker 1: have much of a pass rush, so this is the
Speaker 1: right team and situation for the Rams to maybe get
Speaker 1: a W. But a Curry at left tackle did not
Speaker 1: look like an NFL player. McLendon at right tackle did
Speaker 1: not look like an NFL player. You have a new
Speaker 1: guy at center, so we'll see how he works out.
Speaker 1: Haven Stein, We're not sure if he's going to play,
Speaker 1: but he isn't expected to practice early in the week,
Speaker 1: so they could be missing four of their starting offensive
Speaker 1: linemen and without Pooka Nakua. Yeah, it's all about Cooper
Speaker 1: Cup Like can Cooper Cup handle this sort of load?
Speaker 2: The Cardos did have maybe the.
Speaker 1: Worst defense in the league last year, and we're one
Speaker 1: of the worst or the worst in Week one. So
Speaker 1: if maybe this is a good time to play the
Speaker 1: Rams because mcvay's owned this matchup Steve at least last year.
Speaker 1: They won this game by a combined forty points in
Speaker 1: the two matchup.
Speaker 4: But historically they have not played great defensively against Kyler Murray.
Speaker 4: He's had some really nice games against the Rams.
Speaker 3: The thing is.
Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison only three targets, I mean only one catch.
Speaker 4: They've got to figure something out. If they're gonna throw
Speaker 4: the ball and get it. Oh that guy James Connor,
Speaker 4: I mean that's one. Then they're gonna have to run
Speaker 4: the football without Kyler. I mean Connor's gonna have to
Speaker 4: get his hands on the ball a lot. I think
Speaker 4: this Rams defense showed itself some but then showed it
Speaker 4: some week. This is some, but it gets a very
Speaker 4: good Lions team. But I want to get back to
Speaker 4: the Rams offense. Matthew Stafford thrown the ball forty nine
Speaker 4: times last week. I mean the Lions have a good front,
Speaker 4: they don't have a great front. He can't be throwing
Speaker 4: the ball forty nine times a game and the Rams
Speaker 4: have a shot. So they've got to find a way.
Speaker 3: To run it.
Speaker 4: They didn't really try to run it. They kind of
Speaker 4: got back into that rut. They've got to try to
Speaker 4: establish a run against Arizona. Otherwise this clock game, James Connor,
Speaker 4: you just saw them. It could be very interesting.
Speaker 3: There's a style issue for the Arizona Cardinals, as they
Speaker 3: allowed the worst EPA in the league per dropback when
Speaker 3: their opponents used motion. And so here comes Sean McVay. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and again they're going to see them twice a year.
Speaker 3: But there is one like there's a quote alert out
Speaker 3: there that Kyler's being taken out of context because like
Speaker 3: the quote graphic that's being used is like, it's not
Speaker 3: my job to get Marvin Harrison the ball. But the
Speaker 3: way Kyler said it is, I'm going through progressions. I'm
Speaker 3: not out there to just get balls to Marvin Harrison,
Speaker 3: and he missed him late in the game. But ultimately
Speaker 3: that's not a fair quote to Kyler. It's kind of
Speaker 3: being taken out of context. I'm the Rams defensive line
Speaker 3: is the spot for me because that first start for
Speaker 3: Jared Verse, he had twenty six point one percent pressure
Speaker 3: rate the force highest by a rookie, and he's a
Speaker 3: monster of all time. And that's it. Like it's like, well,
Speaker 3: what are we gonna how are we going to replace?
Speaker 3: So they've got all that youth on the defensive line. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they lose one of the best football players we've all
Speaker 3: ever seen, but they get good that aspect. I can't
Speaker 3: say the same for like Cardinals defenders. Like now, the
Speaker 3: Cardinal defender, I'm hanging my hat on right now.
Speaker 2: That's like Buddha Baker.
Speaker 1: They're okay at linebacker Kaisier White, but you're right, they
Speaker 1: just they don't have the defensive line. So this might
Speaker 1: be a perfect manage the season. I think about the
Speaker 1: how long the season is, and the Rams have the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers next week, you're missing four offensive linemen
Speaker 1: this week. You get your left tackle back. Next week,
Speaker 1: Eric Jackson will be off his suspension. You might get
Speaker 1: haven steinback and so it's a manage the season type
Speaker 1: of game.
Speaker 2: Can you sneak out a road win in the division.
Speaker 1: You mentioned how good Verse has been and and like
Speaker 1: now you're playing a tough Arizona running game though, and
Speaker 1: that was how you lost last week.
Speaker 2: The Lions ran through you at the end.
Speaker 1: And the way Kyler was running last week, I mean,
Speaker 1: he has got that wiggle back. James Connor is awesome.
Speaker 1: They have a nice backup in Trey Benson, and they
Speaker 1: throw a lot at you. So to me, that's kind
Speaker 1: of the key matchup. Can they Can they stop the
Speaker 1: Cardinals running game and just just escape with the win?
Speaker 1: And you mentioned Harrison just to close on him. His
Speaker 1: max speed per next Sensetat's was like insanely low, which I.
Speaker 2: Don't know how much to put into that.
Speaker 1: That was just something I saw, but like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe he wasn't going downfield, maybe he was thinking too much.
Speaker 2: He just he didn't have a great week.
Speaker 3: There were some covered shades which I think probably played
Speaker 3: into Kyler not necessarily getting back to him towards it,
Speaker 3: and again with him being open. Of course, the broadcast
Speaker 3: is showing him doing jumping dracks, but Kyler would have
Speaker 3: had the three sixty spin no scope like throw one
Speaker 3: kind of no look to get him to that in
Speaker 3: that point. And that's where like still frames can kind
Speaker 3: of be misleading. He was open, but it's not always
Speaker 3: that ea.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: I do my pick again to spread with Cynthia later
Speaker 1: in the week, but Rams as an underdog against the
Speaker 1: Cardinals is pretty tempty.
Speaker 3: That is, that's a real tempting play right there. You
Speaker 3: may not be alone in that one. Yeah, we do
Speaker 3: our game debut coming up here, shout out to that
Speaker 3: particular show. Let's go to our next game here, and
Speaker 3: that is a one and a half point home favorite
Speaker 3: Washington Commander's team. Another set of zero to one divisional
Speaker 3: foes in week two, the Giants visiting the Commanders. Jayde
Speaker 3: Daniels plays in front of his hometime home crowd for
Speaker 3: the first time. Steve the defense didn't do him a
Speaker 3: ton of favors of the first time out. Baker Mayfield
Speaker 3: had one of the best games of his career touchdowns.
Speaker 3: Can they do enough to get Jaden to win over
Speaker 3: Dimes and Crew? Yes they can because Dimes. I mean, look,
Speaker 3: I say this because my wife is Jamaicas. I'm not
Speaker 3: trying to offend He's dimes in Jamaican money, which translated
Speaker 3: to about negative one hundred in US currency. Look, I
Speaker 3: just think that this is this is a game with
Speaker 3: the commanders offensively. You know, you're not gonna have Jaden
Speaker 3: Danis run the ball sixteen times. You just cannot do
Speaker 3: that every week like last week. But they're gonna run
Speaker 3: the ball.
Speaker 4: And so if they can get it going against this defense,
Speaker 4: they're just gonna milk clock and milk clock. They will,
Speaker 4: hopefully if you're a defensive coordinator Joe Witt, be able
Speaker 4: to get Danny dimes in some long down and distances,
Speaker 4: He's gonna cough a couple up to you. I just
Speaker 4: the big story is gonna be like, this is only
Speaker 4: week two, but this is a bigger.
Speaker 3: Game for Daniel Jones.
Speaker 4: Yes, then we think he cannot come out and play
Speaker 4: like he did last week, that just will not. Then
Speaker 4: the coaching staff is going to sense their vulnerability and
Speaker 4: livelihoods and they will make a moveack quarterback change sometime soon.
Speaker 4: As much as we thought they're a ride with him
Speaker 4: for all seventeen for you know, everything they've done, they
Speaker 4: will get desperate because they will sense the vultures coming
Speaker 4: out and make a move.
Speaker 3: If he comes out and stinks it up like he
Speaker 3: did in Week.
Speaker 2: One, I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I think this could be Daniel Jones's last start as
Speaker 1: wow a Giant. Now he's playing the right opponent that
Speaker 1: their defense was lost last week. Commanders, it's not a
Speaker 1: talented team overall, and so there's certainly a real scenario
Speaker 1: Dariel Jones plays much better this week, the offense scores points.
Speaker 1: But if he looks like he did last week because
Speaker 1: he did not pass pass what I call like the
Speaker 1: NFL QB test, people say it's like, oh, if you
Speaker 1: protect him, he's solid.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: But that's true of every NFLQB who has a long career,
Speaker 1: literally everyone. If you can deliver when protected, you'll have
Speaker 1: a long career. Maybe it's a starter, maybe it's a
Speaker 1: fringe starter, whatever it is. Last year, he actually last week,
Speaker 1: actually he was protected pretty well in that game, and
Speaker 1: there were ground balls, there were times where he held
Speaker 1: it forever, and he looked a little gun shy on
Speaker 1: short passes. He's always been a little gunshy on throwing
Speaker 1: the long ones. Now he was gun shy and everything.
Speaker 1: And I listened to this John Boy media show talking giants,
Speaker 1: and they had a great insight. So I want to
Speaker 1: give them credit. Where they were listening to the radio
Speaker 1: and they're saying the radio call with Bob Papa and
Speaker 1: all that those are team employees. They'd always been defending
Speaker 1: Daniel Joe in the past, and in this time they're
Speaker 1: kind of asking questions about Daniel just and usually the
Speaker 1: radio guys don't start saying that unless the people above
Speaker 1: maybe are saying that. And you do wonder organizationally, if
Speaker 1: they're ready to just be like, hey, you're giving us
Speaker 1: no choice.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe we'll ride with Drew Locke soon if this continues.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you're not safe in your own booths,
Speaker 3: like like where where are you safe? And he's not
Speaker 3: safe when the defense is playing zone, So the Vikings
Speaker 3: played zone eighty six percent of his dropbacks. In Week one,
Speaker 3: he was nineteen of thirty seven fo one hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty yards and two interw The only quarterbacks worse than
Speaker 3: that over the past couple of years were Zach Wilson
Speaker 3: and Bryce Young. In a particular game, it's it's not
Speaker 3: good for dimes only other side like I'm excited for
Speaker 3: Jane Daniels. I know that Todd Bowles defense got a
Speaker 3: whole lot of pressure on him. Right, he was one
Speaker 3: of five against pressure, but that doesn't account for all
Speaker 3: the times he ran away from the pressure right and
Speaker 3: he was able to get positive games. In his very
Speaker 3: first game, Brian Robinson Junior got tackled at the goal,
Speaker 3: one McCaffrey got tackled at the goal on if you're
Speaker 3: watching the video version of our show, and Jane Daniels
Speaker 3: finished those off and it made it look easy. And
Speaker 3: it's funny to see the juxtaposition of these two quarterbacks,
Speaker 3: one on his way in and the other. You guys
Speaker 3: said this might be the last shot.
Speaker 1: And now I hear everything you're saying on Jayden and Daniels,
Speaker 1: and he's an incredible runner. But our guys at next
Speaker 1: time Stas noted he had the sixth highest scramble rate
Speaker 1: in any game in the last three years of that game.
Speaker 1: And you're right. Sometimes it was the pressure. I think
Speaker 1: they coached them up. Maybe if it comes and you
Speaker 1: don't see your first read open, just go. But there
Speaker 1: were some times where he had pretty open receivers where
Speaker 1: their first read looked like it was there and he
Speaker 1: just wanted to run, and he got his helmet knocked
Speaker 1: off a couple of times, so you got to be
Speaker 1: careful there. And he's a fantastic runner, but he missed
Speaker 1: a couple throws and he missed seeing a couple, so
Speaker 1: they had a couple.
Speaker 2: They had plenty of design runs.
Speaker 1: But I think they would love it if he scrambled
Speaker 1: a little less.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 4: I mean, look, he's really and I'm just bit a
Speaker 4: real here. He plays for Cliff Kingsbury. He is going
Speaker 4: to be scrambling. You've heard me say hit Oh, ask
Speaker 4: Kyler Murray, as ask Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: USC's offensive line hasn't looked nearly as terrible this year
Speaker 4: as did last year. Cliff Kingsbury has a lot of
Speaker 4: protections where he leaves his quarterback in situations you get
Speaker 4: rid of it quick or to pull it down and
Speaker 4: run it. And he's going to be facing Dexter Lawrence
Speaker 4: and Caveon, Thibodeau and guys.
Speaker 1: He needs to stand up. By the way, they were
Speaker 1: very quiet last week. Burns and cava On that in
Speaker 1: a tough matchup, this is the easier matchup.
Speaker 2: They need to get.
Speaker 4: Correct correct, much much better offensive line they played against
Speaker 4: last week.
Speaker 3: So yep, it's a crossroads for a couple of different
Speaker 3: teams and a couple of different aspects. They're looking forward
Speaker 3: to that one. In the NFC East, let us go
Speaker 3: to what would have been, guys, the Russell Wilson revenge game.
Speaker 3: The Denver Broncos playing host to the Pittsburgh Steelers, who
Speaker 3: were on the road a two and a half point favorite.
Speaker 3: Spirit Adidas out of Arceletta who had one of the
Speaker 3: calls of the week and our friend Adidie Kinkawalla on
Speaker 3: that call, Justin Fields announced as the starter. More Leeway,
Speaker 3: there was some opportunity last week where they had a
Speaker 3: package put in for Justin Fields. Turns out he's the
Speaker 3: starting quarterback. Now he's going up against bow Nicks in
Speaker 3: his second game, Greg more bow Knicks.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 1: I took you know the Steelers that are a road
Speaker 1: dog last week, they're not dopes this week.
Speaker 2: They're going to make them the favorite.
Speaker 1: I think the Steelers' role because I think now let's
Speaker 1: just embrace Fields like life here. And they knew he
Speaker 1: was going to start last week. I believe during the
Speaker 1: week Russell Wilson, according to reports, isn't doing a ton
Speaker 1: of practice on Wednesday, so it's not even like they
Speaker 1: really have an option. He has a calf injury, and
Speaker 1: it will be interesting to see how much Arthur Smith
Speaker 1: embraces it, because there are strengths here with Justin Fields.
Speaker 1: Number one, I believe him to be one of the
Speaker 1: greatest running quarterbacks of all time in terms of his
Speaker 1: instincts as a runner, in terms not just his power
Speaker 1: but avoiding hits, making people miss like he is talented.
Speaker 1: He's not always the most act you're on the short stuff,
Speaker 1: but had some beautiful deeper throws last week to George Pickens.
Speaker 1: He can throw to the outside and he did that,
Speaker 1: and yeah, this is a fine matchup. I would say
Speaker 1: it's a neutral matchup to me against the Broncos defense
Speaker 1: that's average, and I think all you're gonna look for,
Speaker 1: Steve is if the Steelers offense can be average, they're
Speaker 1: happy because this is a defense first team, and maybe.
Speaker 3: They could score a touchdown.
Speaker 4: I mean, you're not gonna win week kicking sixth that helps, Yeah,
Speaker 4: but you talked about it. I thought Justin Fields to
Speaker 4: George Pickens, there is something there. There were some beautiful
Speaker 4: throws and some amazing catches. Yeah, some of them came
Speaker 4: on scrambles, real plays. That's how it's gonna be with
Speaker 4: the Steelers offensively in the passing game. So now is
Speaker 4: Denver gonna put Patrick Hirtan on George Pickens. Are we're
Speaker 4: gonna see this great you know, one on one match
Speaker 4: up with this incredible talent. I would, because I'm really
Speaker 4: not fearing too much of the other receiving game. But
Speaker 4: in watching a lot of that game, you were right,
Speaker 4: Fields was inaccurate with some of his throws.
Speaker 3: But I think as the.
Speaker 4: Game wore on, even though they weren't getting the ball
Speaker 4: the ends on, he was feeling something. There was something
Speaker 4: working there. The offensive line had some things working. The
Speaker 4: run game was popping.
Speaker 3: They did.
Speaker 2: He managed the game, made good decisions.
Speaker 4: I thought so too. They just didn't get into the
Speaker 4: end zone. And that's gonna be a problem. Remember, they're
Speaker 4: they're trying, They're they're on the road, right, it's games
Speaker 4: in Denver. They're they're gonna have to adjust. I just
Speaker 4: think this is going to be an intriguing game. Some
Speaker 4: big plays from the Steelers offense, and then if Sean
Speaker 4: and if I'm sorry, if Arthur Smith and tom can
Speaker 4: get it going, they'll run the ball in the second half.
Speaker 3: But I think was he some big plays early. One
Speaker 3: thing that I think Arthur Smith and Mike Tomain will
Speaker 3: both be okay with if because Patrick ris witham gave
Speaker 3: DK metcalf all kinds of problems. He's one of the
Speaker 3: best corners. If not, you can make a case he's
Speaker 3: the best up between him and Sauce. But they'll be
Speaker 3: perfectly fine with the Broncos defenders turning their backs and
Speaker 3: running away from Justin Fields. If you guys want to
Speaker 3: play man, I think they will be great. Great point,
Speaker 3: comfortable with a great point considering his prediction. As you mentioned,
Speaker 3: Greg one of the best to ever do it when
Speaker 3: he's out in space. Now, when we saw the Falcons
Speaker 3: Fields did take a couple of shots where they're running
Speaker 3: quarterback runs, designed quarterback run, and he's just powered it
Speaker 3: in he had with absolutely nobody in front of him.
Speaker 3: We don't want to see that, it's true, But considering
Speaker 3: what their defense did and how the Broncos really struggled
Speaker 3: in protection against the Seahawks in Week one, I'm looking
Speaker 3: at TJ Watt's potential to just, oh my gosh, TJ.
Speaker 2: Watt wants that Defensive Player of the Year. He wants it.
Speaker 1: He was insane and Seattle showed how to beat Denver.
Speaker 1: They were all over Bonnicks like they got a lot
Speaker 1: of pressure and they just dared him to throw.
Speaker 2: They just said, we dare you to go.
Speaker 1: We're gonna single you up, We're dare you to go
Speaker 1: more than ten yards. We think our guys can cover
Speaker 1: your guys. I think Pittsburgh can do that too, because
Speaker 1: I just I just think this defensive front can be special.
Speaker 1: I think it might be top three defensive front in
Speaker 1: the entire league. And Garrett Bowles was banged up in
Speaker 1: that game, unsure if he's playing, I guess what he
Speaker 1: does because he never missed his game, but he didn't
Speaker 1: play well last week because he was playing through an injury,
Speaker 1: and so that that's something to watch. And bo Nicks
Speaker 1: just he's not gonna have answers if he's under that sit.
Speaker 4: I will say this to Falcons of their blocking scheme,
Speaker 4: that was like what are they doing? Like did they
Speaker 4: realize who they're playing against?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was absolutely crazy. You think Sean
Speaker 4: Payton would be a little wiser to that. So there's
Speaker 4: gonna be a lot of quick game stuff like there was.
Speaker 4: I mean, bon Nicks only threw a four hundred times
Speaker 4: for oh, you know, twenty two yards.
Speaker 1: There was a stat he threw it more than forty
Speaker 1: times and had less yards in the game than anyone was.
Speaker 1: It was like the top four in NFL history. I
Speaker 1: think it was Jesse Palmer. There was an old like
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger in his last season in like a Rainstorm.
Speaker 1: I kind of remember that game too, And there was one.
Speaker 1: There was one other and that was it with with
Speaker 1: Bow last week.
Speaker 3: That was the meme game where it was it was
Speaker 3: fourth in me in like seven and Ben throws this
Speaker 3: flare out to Nase and the entire defense is standing
Speaker 3: within three yards of him. There's a shot of nause
Speaker 3: in half of the other team. He did eclipse in
Speaker 3: terms of yards per attempt one player last week, and
Speaker 3: that's Caleb Williams by one tenth of a yard. If
Speaker 3: Keenan Allen catches that ball in the gola and then
Speaker 3: then o Nicks would have But it was it was
Speaker 3: a rough and every one of their offensive lineman gave
Speaker 3: up multiple pressures as well. It was a rough Patrick.
Speaker 3: So both you guys.
Speaker 4: If Justin Fields comes out and plays even as well
Speaker 4: as even as adequately as he played in week one,
Speaker 4: maybe a little bit.
Speaker 3: Better, is he the guy? To me, there's no more conversations.
Speaker 1: No more as long as they that'll get them to
Speaker 1: two and zero on the road, as long as they
Speaker 1: have a winning record.
Speaker 2: Tomlin is not going back and both road games now.
Speaker 3: I ja.
Speaker 2: By the way, speaking of look good, I.
Speaker 3: Think look very good. He appeared liberated in author Smith's
Speaker 3: offense and the Steelers.
Speaker 4: Cordial Patterson's gonna take his touches up. Man, Arthur Smith
Speaker 4: can't help himself. You can't have too much cordial Patterson.
Speaker 3: In the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty four, Let's
Speaker 3: go to Douveall for our next game, that is the
Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns, a three point dog on the road at Jacksonville,
Speaker 3: where Trevor Lawrence had a cryptic it's time for change
Speaker 3: tweet this week with like multiple shots of his head.
Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't see it.
Speaker 3: I don't know if Trevor Lawrence is gonna cut his hair.
Speaker 3: That's that's kind of the leading things. But the Jags.
Speaker 2: Oh, I thought he was talking about the front office there.
Speaker 3: Oh no, just it's like Trent Trent's super saying because
Speaker 3: the Jags retweeted it. So the Cleveland Brown struggled on
Speaker 3: offense against Michael Parson and the Cowboys. Now here comes
Speaker 3: Joshua hans Allen and trey Von Walker, who played pretty well. Gris, Yes,
Speaker 3: what do you see taking play? Yeah? You know.
Speaker 1: Traywan Walker rewatching the game was outstanding in the running game.
Speaker 1: He also got a couple of sacks in that game.
Speaker 1: But he is becoming an elite run defender and that
Speaker 1: to me is huge because you're going up against a
Speaker 1: team that doesn't have much of a pass game until
Speaker 1: proven otherwise in Cleveland and wants to run the ball.
Speaker 1: They did a lot of creative stuff and people think
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson was making excuses that well except for three
Speaker 1: plays we had the Dolphins locked down. But watching that game,
Speaker 1: I kind of agree with them, like they did some
Speaker 1: creative things on defense. This is not the Dolphins they're
Speaker 1: playing against, and Doug Peterson and this Jaguar seemed desperately
Speaker 1: need to win because the way last season ended, and
Speaker 1: then to start this season, blowing a big lead like that.
Speaker 2: He was extremely testy.
Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, Monday's press conference, and this is
Speaker 1: just a team, really, two teams, but especially the Jaguars
Speaker 1: that desperately just need to get a win and to
Speaker 1: relax a little bit.
Speaker 4: You know, Look the Browns, we don't know either tackle
Speaker 4: is going to be back this week. So you talk
Speaker 4: about the pressure coming on DeShawn, they looked and I
Speaker 4: think the joke, who is nicked? Right, So what's gonna happen? Okay,
Speaker 4: a lot of Mari Cooper. They tried doing it last week.
Speaker 4: They just couldn't do it consistently. Now Dallas was giving
Speaker 4: them fits. Mike Zimmer came out and gave them a
Speaker 4: lot of different looks, gave them pressures with four There's
Speaker 4: just no flow to this offense. And again that's why
Speaker 4: week one will it be the ultimate non truth teller,
Speaker 4: As I say, comes to the Browns, We'll see, but
Speaker 4: I just you know they're all the talking from last
Speaker 4: year to Shaun Watson did not on schedule running of
Speaker 4: this offense. It's got to be better this week because
Speaker 4: I think Actonville is going to be a problem. I
Speaker 4: think their offense is gonna get going. We know they
Speaker 4: could points on the board, but I think defensively they
Speaker 4: could be a thorn for the Browns. And what did
Speaker 4: I say, I've said it on the show. No player
Speaker 4: is under greater pressure entering the season than Deshaun Watson,
Speaker 4: and with all the noise around him again this week,
Speaker 4: the pressure is only going up ten million more degrees.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And that pressure should you know, honestly never
Speaker 3: go away considering the scope and the scale of the
Speaker 3: things that took place back in twenty twenty. But the
Speaker 3: actual pressure that the Jags will apply, considering what how
Speaker 3: Deshaun looked bouncing up and down in the pocket coming
Speaker 3: off roots, making bad throws to Amari Cooper. That actual
Speaker 3: tax trouble is going to be a little more of
Speaker 3: a problem. Football field was because James Hudson allowed eight
Speaker 3: pressures on fifty six pass blocking snaps in Week one
Speaker 3: where the Browns had all this trouble, and now he's
Speaker 3: going to deal with Joshua hans Allen who kind of
Speaker 3: got locked up by toront Armstead. But it's still going
Speaker 3: to be even more of an issue. And we also
Speaker 3: get a sneaky, a little bit of a sneaky coaching
Speaker 3: heat and oh wait, Jim Schwartz and Doug Peterson going
Speaker 3: back at it. Yeah, back and things were good, you know,
Speaker 3: they celebrated together, but also there were some concerns the
Speaker 3: end of the exit there in Philadelpia.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 3: I like that too.
Speaker 4: But but speaking of this, I mean, Cleveland defense is
Speaker 4: not going to make it easy on Trevor Lawrence either.
Speaker 3: Let's let's let's not overlook that.
Speaker 1: I felt good about Trevor's performance. There is more under
Speaker 1: center stuff. They had a good run game. Tank Bigsby
Speaker 1: uh popped in that game. There was a couple of
Speaker 1: drops by Kirk that would have really changed it. I
Speaker 1: think Brian Thomas Junior is fantastic. One that he had
Speaker 1: a stat the highest EPA per route of any rookie
Speaker 1: wide receiver in the last X amount of years, like
Speaker 1: he was. He just he passes the eye test. So
Speaker 1: I feel better about their offense. And yeah, you talk pressure,
Speaker 1: just to wrap up Watson and then we'll take a break.
Speaker 1: On Wednesday, Stefanski did confirm because they hadn't spoken up
Speaker 1: other than a brief statement that they're going to listen
Speaker 1: to the NFL about how the NFL handles this, They
Speaker 1: said they will start Deshaun Watson on Wednesday. That's not
Speaker 1: a question. And Deshaun Watson did meet with the media.
Speaker 1: He didn't really say much about the allegations, although he
Speaker 1: said that they were news to him, and that was
Speaker 1: counteracted by a long statement by the lawyer who represents
Speaker 1: the woman suing Deshaun Watson, saying that actually, this has
Speaker 1: been going on for ten months and they tried to
Speaker 1: reach a settlement separately, so because they knew all the
Speaker 1: media attention that would happen. And yes, the Deshaun Watson
Speaker 1: and his lawyer strongly denies those allegations, which are brutal
Speaker 1: to read. And yeah, the alleged victims attorney Tony Busby,
Speaker 1: put a lot of that out there today. So let's
Speaker 1: take a quick break and we will back with more
Speaker 1: games after this, back on NFL Daily. So excited about
Speaker 1: the Rosenthal ball. That's it, Seahawks Patriots. Yeah, back in
Speaker 1: the old round the NFL days, We're going to we
Speaker 1: drafted the games. This would have been my number one
Speaker 1: overall draft pick for the entire season, and I love
Speaker 1: that Kenny Albert and Jonathan Vilma are on it. I
Speaker 1: love Vilma's energy. To me, he is the perfect guy
Speaker 1: for this game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the perfect for the battle of the heart and
Speaker 3: soul of Greg Rosenthal. Because the Seahawks three and a
Speaker 3: half point favorites on the road at New England, where
Speaker 3: the Seahawks made the type of mistakes that the Bengals
Speaker 3: did against the Patriots, but Seattle managed to win. Now
Speaker 3: it's are they gonna do the same type of thing?
Speaker 3: They allowed two safeties in the first half against the
Speaker 3: Denver Bronx, just a calamity of errors, but they managed
Speaker 3: to find a way to win. And here comes New
Speaker 3: England where we're getting Christian Gonzalez back.
Speaker 2: He looks good.
Speaker 3: It's a solid it's a solid, solid opportunity. Can they
Speaker 3: get to Andino though.
Speaker 4: Steve, Well, okay, this is where I'm going to play
Speaker 4: the West Coast, the West Coast, early coast. Yeah, you
Speaker 4: can always get the two and oh but remember I
Speaker 4: said Week one is the great non truth teller. And yes,
Speaker 4: New England Pageots should be Kobe pid sky high for
Speaker 4: what they did to the Bengals. The anyone out to
Speaker 4: put it on them, I mean they out physicaled them.
Speaker 4: I think they out coached.
Speaker 3: Them, So.
Speaker 4: This I just but you know, Greg, the Seahawks are
Speaker 4: my that's my team. No one's talking about that. I'm
Speaker 4: very high on it. Okay, I know you love Gino.
Speaker 4: This is just one where I think their ground game,
Speaker 4: we saw Kenneth Walker, we saw them come out and
Speaker 4: they rushed for a bunch of yards I think one
Speaker 4: hundred and eighty plus yards last week.
Speaker 3: I think that continues this week.
Speaker 4: I think they'll be able to go there, control the clock,
Speaker 4: get things going against a Page's defense that is underrated.
Speaker 4: I don't think people are gonna sleep on it for
Speaker 4: too much longer. I think it's going to continue to
Speaker 4: play well. But I just think this week Seattle, with
Speaker 4: its ability to run, set up to play action the
Speaker 4: way Tyler Lockett looked last week, it's going to open
Speaker 4: up the field from the other guys. I just think
Speaker 4: Seattle's offense is to start getting going.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Look, if I had to pick the game, that three
Speaker 1: and a half sounds about right. I think the Seahawks
Speaker 1: are a favorite, but it wouldn't shock me if the
Speaker 1: Patriots won this game. Because of what you said about
Speaker 1: the defense, So what they have, I think most teams
Speaker 1: don't have is a great combination of continuity and experience,
Speaker 1: but not aged experience. If you look at kind of
Speaker 1: all the guys on their team, it's it's Dugger. It's
Speaker 1: some second year players like Gonzalez who was great last week.
Speaker 2: Now you may maybe travel them. I mean he traveled
Speaker 2: around last.
Speaker 1: Week with Chase and will he do it again with
Speaker 1: DK that that would be fascinating and Keon White. So
Speaker 1: some young players, but other guys who've just been in
Speaker 1: the system, not superstars, but Anthony Jennings in the prime
Speaker 1: of his career, Joan Bentley in the prime of his career,
Speaker 1: Jilani Tavai has played great ball for them, Kyle Dugger
Speaker 1: in the prime of his career.
Speaker 2: So okay, it's not a new system either.
Speaker 1: Gerard Mayo was running this defense already and so Marcus Joes.
Speaker 2: They just play well together. Jabrill Peppers.
Speaker 1: There's a cohesion and an aggression that takes me back
Speaker 1: to like that two thousand in one days that that's
Speaker 1: their recipe if they're not going to turn into a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion. But what they'll try to do and
Speaker 1: we'll see if they can, is just not be sloppy,
Speaker 1: not beat themselves on offense and see if the other
Speaker 1: team can make enough mistakes to scrape out.
Speaker 2: A bunch of wins.
Speaker 1: Because Bill Belichick's teams, he doesn't like to talk about it.
Speaker 2: Last few years, they were making all sorts of mistakes.
Speaker 1: They were terrible on special teams, a ton of penalties
Speaker 1: like mental errors.
Speaker 2: You didn't see that in week one.
Speaker 1: So that's that's the promise, because we know the offense
Speaker 1: isn't going to be explosive.
Speaker 3: And that's the difference right between the early era Belichick
Speaker 3: teams and the late era teams where things got late
Speaker 3: and it kind of started to feel like, all, well,
Speaker 3: Bill will figure it out. We don't necessarily need this
Speaker 3: mid vet guy. He can go somewhere else and make
Speaker 3: his money. And then incomes rookies and things are disjoined.
Speaker 3: Matt Patricia's leaving, coming back to Josh ll Daniels, leaven
Speaker 3: coming back. It's all but now there's actual real continuity
Speaker 3: among the unit. On the secondary, it was twenty twenty
Speaker 3: eight routes for Gonzales lined up against Jamark It's fun wow.
Speaker 3: Three catches for fifteen yards against Jamar's and again Jamar's
Speaker 3: missed up. But it's still Jamar Chase. I don't think
Speaker 3: he forgot how to get opens.
Speaker 2: It was a great it's exciting.
Speaker 4: But if he travels this week, does he travel DK
Speaker 4: or do they or did he float him?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: Because he can travel DK part of the time, he
Speaker 4: can travel with Jack Smith and jigg with some times.
Speaker 3: There's ways to do that. And you talk about the
Speaker 3: continuity doing this, but let's also keep.
Speaker 4: It real because you over the over runner here is
Speaker 4: thirty seven point five, Greg, You make.
Speaker 2: That out perfect?
Speaker 3: Yeah, making how the over runners should be six?
Speaker 4: Right, you're you know, you talk about the safetiest You're
Speaker 4: talking about a three to two ball game with the
Speaker 4: way you're you know, you're really excited about this value.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just saying they can be like a top
Speaker 1: eight defense. Ultimately, it's an offensive league. But the Seahawks
Speaker 1: offensive line certainly struggled early in that game, and they
Speaker 1: figured it out and they were awesome in the second half.
Speaker 1: The offense was it is tough to cover up these
Speaker 1: three receivers. Kenneth Walker is awesome. I do think that's
Speaker 1: why they probably lose because unlike the Seahawks, like the
Speaker 1: Seahawks have both sides of the ball.
Speaker 2: You have to be pretty well to say we haven't
Speaker 2: talked about their d.
Speaker 1: Right, you could be pretty excited about their new They
Speaker 1: talked about how they were going to play, and they
Speaker 1: were great tackling, flying around.
Speaker 2: They look disciplined.
Speaker 1: So all the good things I said about the Patriots,
Speaker 1: the Seahawks have that on defense more or less two
Speaker 1: and they have a lot more explosive playmakers and everyone,
Speaker 1: like even Drod Maya was like, you guys overreacted about
Speaker 1: the offensive line. I said, it was gonna be fine.
Speaker 1: I they gave up the second most amount of pressures
Speaker 1: in terms of dropbacks in the NFL last year. Jacobe
Speaker 1: Prisett and the offense barely moved the ball through the air.
Speaker 1: And as much as I'd like to give credit to
Speaker 1: the offensive right Ramandy Stevenson broke like twelve tackles, it
Speaker 1: was more just that he it.
Speaker 2: Was awesome in that game. It's gonna be tough to
Speaker 2: do everything well.
Speaker 3: When they added an offensive lineman, when they had six
Speaker 3: offensive linemen, they averaged four yards to play and they
Speaker 3: scored their only touchdown of the game. So that's it.
Speaker 3: That's how you get that three to two games deep.
Speaker 2: Six offensive lineman. Yeah.
Speaker 1: They it seemed like they were doing that like every
Speaker 1: other play, which is that's.
Speaker 3: All smart coaching. That's smart coaching. All right, we'll leave
Speaker 3: that game and get to the Indianapolis Colts on the road.
Speaker 3: A three and a half point favorite for the Green
Speaker 3: Bay Packers, who were loveless for now we think, and
Speaker 3: that's a big factor. The over under seid at forty
Speaker 3: and a half points. Josh Jacobs had his best game
Speaker 3: last week in terms of yards over expectation since he
Speaker 3: led the league in rushing back in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3: And now he's going up against the Colts team that
Speaker 3: gave a career day to Joe Mixon and the opener
Speaker 3: Gregor he and Malik Willis enough.
Speaker 2: I think they have a chance.
Speaker 1: I think that Matt Lafleur has a chance here to
Speaker 1: really flex his coaching muscles because you think about what
Speaker 1: they did well last week. They ran the ball great,
Speaker 1: the two plus twenty run, twenty yard plus runs like
Speaker 1: he had three all of last year. Can you build
Speaker 1: a running game around Jacobs? Emmanuel Wilson look good as
Speaker 1: a backup, and Malik Willis as a part of the
Speaker 1: run game. I think it would be a fun challenge
Speaker 1: for Lafleur to do. And then you look at this
Speaker 1: Colts defense. They really struggled against the run last week.
Speaker 1: The Texans really ran them over. So this is it's
Speaker 1: a different Packers setup. Normally you would say like they
Speaker 1: have great receiver depth in the they just lost Juju
Speaker 1: Brents and they don't have many good cornerbacks.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you can really take advantage of
Speaker 2: this game.
Speaker 1: This is one where you see if you can have
Speaker 1: the luck the Texans did on the ground against them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that they're gonna have to because Gus
Speaker 4: Bradley's gonna be giving Malik Willis all kind of different looks,
Speaker 4: even if he only ends up rushing for and things
Speaker 4: like that. They're gonna see a lot of different stuff
Speaker 4: they didn't see against the Eagles. I'm with you, though,
Speaker 4: I thought the Packers' offensive line played fairly well in
Speaker 4: this game.
Speaker 3: I thought they protected fairly well. I thought they ran
Speaker 3: blocked fairly well.
Speaker 4: The game circumstance was just odd with those guys being
Speaker 4: in Brazil, and I like the fact that Matt Lafleur
Speaker 4: came out and I was expecting to get a pass
Speaker 4: rush from our defense. I was expecting a lot more
Speaker 4: from certain things of our offense.
Speaker 3: So he was dis paid clearly.
Speaker 4: After the game, especially with the way things went on defense.
Speaker 3: This is but even with some of the pressures.
Speaker 4: That they generated in that game against the Eagles, Anthony
Speaker 4: Richardson's a different monster.
Speaker 3: And we saw that last year.
Speaker 4: He wasn't great passing, but the way he ran the
Speaker 4: ball because they didn't have a run game otherwise, This
Speaker 4: to me, when I look at this has got the
Speaker 4: intrigue bubble okay like no other game, just because there's
Speaker 4: still a ton of unknowns about both teams. You know,
Speaker 4: the Malik Willis one being the most but still the Colts,
Speaker 4: what exactly are they that might that might still take
Speaker 4: a minute to figure out.
Speaker 3: And I think the thing that we know and the
Speaker 3: most unique thing about Anthony Richardson because we comp right,
Speaker 3: people make the cam comp and I think the cam
Speaker 3: comp is actually Josh Allen. But the way that because
Speaker 3: we see Anthony Richardson run over Jalen Petrie in the
Speaker 3: end zone, but it's always the first defender to me,
Speaker 3: the guy that comes up out of the secondary that
Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson generally just disregards oh yeah, you're he never
Speaker 3: affects that first movement from Anthony Richardson. He's able to
Speaker 3: get around that guy almost every single time. I haven't
Speaker 3: seen anybody get him out on the edge. And when
Speaker 3: I and I think about the problems that Jalen Hurts
Speaker 3: created on the wet field in Brazil against this team,
Speaker 3: it's it's tough for me to see because I know
Speaker 3: that they've had a lot of Jeff Afley's done a
Speaker 3: lot of changes. Xavier McKinney's a great pickup, but just
Speaker 3: to stop Anthony Richardson consistently enough. When Malik Willis has
Speaker 3: never had a player have over fifty receiving yards in
Speaker 3: a game, and that he started, it's just tough for
Speaker 3: me to imagine a circumstance where, you know, all credit
Speaker 3: to Matt Lafleur that he's able to scheme something up
Speaker 3: that's going to overcome. Right.
Speaker 1: I mentioned managing the season. Now that the Packers really
Speaker 1: managing this very tough spot. Man, if they can just scrape,
Speaker 1: they can get one of these two next games. They
Speaker 1: have the Colts this week, you know, in Green Bay,
Speaker 1: and then they're at Tennessee next week. Just getting finding
Speaker 1: one win somewhere here would be so big. But I'm
Speaker 1: with you, I would take the Colts. The Colts front
Speaker 1: is no joke. They can get after it when they
Speaker 1: do pass the ball, and the Packers defense was disappointing
Speaker 1: that that is kind of why I don't lean on
Speaker 1: a potential.
Speaker 3: Upset here and all the things that we're saying about
Speaker 3: Brian Thomas Jr. If if Richardson's able to hit Ady
Speaker 3: Mitchell on a couple of those balls, we're saying all
Speaker 3: those Thames about ad Mitchell, and I think they may
Speaker 3: connect in this one plenty opportunity. Looking forward to that game,
Speaker 3: maybe Malik Willis comes out and shocks the world, and
Speaker 3: I'd be on the happiest part.
Speaker 4: They gotta do it early on the fifteenth places that
Speaker 4: they're statuscripted get him early.
Speaker 3: From there, we go to the New York Jets visiting
Speaker 3: the Tennessee Titans, who are a three and a half
Speaker 3: point dog at home against Aaron Rodgers and the Jets
Speaker 3: will Levis vowing to play better after a turnover laid
Speaker 3: in the second a half, do them the Titans and
Speaker 3: the opener of their defense limited Kayleb Williams and the
Speaker 3: Bears to under one hundred and fifty yards were very impressive.
Speaker 3: Can we'll let us keep away from those mistakes against
Speaker 3: the Jets defense.
Speaker 4: We'll see, because I thought the Jets defense was a
Speaker 4: major problem.
Speaker 3: You know, in the game against the Niners.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Niners this and that, but when you got
Speaker 4: Jordan Mason coming out and gashing you like he's Walter Payton, right,
Speaker 4: they were poor against the run.
Speaker 3: Rock Purty to me, was rarely under pressure.
Speaker 4: I think, you know, the look, the Jets are going
Speaker 4: to be better, but coming off the short week, I'm
Speaker 4: just not sure defensively if they're going to be great.
Speaker 4: Yet this is an opportunity to get get to get better.
Speaker 4: I just something just did not look right with the
Speaker 4: way they played defense.
Speaker 1: Especially No I mean they were.
Speaker 4: Going up, they were going up to the NFC champ,
Speaker 4: but I mean their defensive front they got mopped up.
Speaker 4: When you looked at every time they had a nice run,
Speaker 4: used check, had someone locked up Kittle, had someone locked
Speaker 4: up their interior guys, they had Velcrow on their jerseys.
Speaker 4: And so again, I'm sure they're going to be hearing
Speaker 4: about pad level and and everything when it comes to
Speaker 4: this game because this should be a get right game
Speaker 4: for them. But you know, Bill Callahan, that offensive line
Speaker 4: coach for Tennessee, knows some things. So again, I'm not
Speaker 4: sitting here saying that the Titans are going to go
Speaker 4: up and down the field on them, but I think
Speaker 4: there's an opportunity for Tennessee's offense to do some things correct.
Speaker 1: Interesting, Brian Callahan was not as optimistic as you talking
Speaker 1: about his offense after the game.
Speaker 5: I just we were playing so good on defense that
Speaker 5: it's almost as if, I mean, if we just punted
Speaker 5: it on first and ten every time, we might have
Speaker 5: won the game.
Speaker 3: The way of the way that you know, we gave
Speaker 3: it away.
Speaker 4: So he's not that's so awesome.
Speaker 2: That's that's the man that's not happy with this quarter.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing though, you mentioned Calahead. Actually I did
Speaker 1: see the total difference. This was his dad, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: his dad innocent. I don't give both the lot credit. Uh,
Speaker 1: the run game looks reborn. I mean, Tony Pollard had
Speaker 1: a great week last week. They were top ten in
Speaker 1: the league in terms of efficiency on the ground. This
Speaker 1: was not a consistent running team last year, even with
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry. So I saw them kind of look like
Speaker 1: a like a Callahan type of running game. You have
Speaker 1: Taji Spears as the backup Pollard, but Pollard really looked
Speaker 1: like he had a little more juice this year. And
Speaker 1: that's cohesive and it's against that bad rush defense. The
Speaker 1: problem is, yeah, you need will Lews to help you
Speaker 1: do something. I think that was probably the worst game
Speaker 1: of his career because not just the bad decisions, but
Speaker 1: even when he hit a couple of plays, he just
Speaker 1: was like really late. Maybe it was the t you know,
Speaker 1: he was a Tennessee thing, and I'm remembering Jay Clor
Speaker 1: even when Jay Cutler was good, like he would really
Speaker 1: have to see it and for it to really be
Speaker 1: open for him to just rip the ball.
Speaker 2: And that was Will Levis last week.
Speaker 1: He just did not feel like he was comfortable with
Speaker 1: what he saw. DeAndre Hopkins only played seventeen snaps. Supposedly
Speaker 1: he's practicing a little more. There was a miscommunication with
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley at the end of the game and he
Speaker 1: blew a block. Jaguars fans are like, oh, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a little familiar. So I always worry about a team
Speaker 1: that doesn't have much of a passing game yet and
Speaker 1: backing their chances to win.
Speaker 3: I think it's a style thing and he's gonna have
Speaker 3: to figure out how to marry his yolow deep shots
Speaker 3: stock because I think over half of his career touchdowns
Speaker 3: have come on bombs, and he got one. He got
Speaker 3: away with one on that late pass to Chigokonkwo where
Speaker 3: Conkwo goes up and gets the ball away from the defender.
Speaker 3: If not for that, Will Levis has an even worse
Speaker 3: game than the way things turned out, and so it's
Speaker 3: he was one of four on deep passing attempts against
Speaker 3: the Bears. One thing that I did have an eye
Speaker 3: on for Tennessee was Jeffrey Simmons had no pressures. Now,
Speaker 3: there was that shot of four Chicago Bears on Jeffery Simmony,
Speaker 3: but he hasn't had a game like that since twenty two.
Speaker 3: We want to see ninety eight gig going.
Speaker 1: It may have found something though with Tvandre Sweat, who
Speaker 1: was a divisive guy because of some off the field
Speaker 1: issues in the draft and people just didn't think he
Speaker 1: was that great of.
Speaker 2: A player because there was weight issues.
Speaker 1: He looked like a problem, like he looked really good
Speaker 1: last week. And then you know Lagerius, Steed and CHADOBEI
Speaker 1: huse who didn't practice. I was banging this drum all camp.
Speaker 1: They go out there and they look good and their
Speaker 1: defense played great. So yeah, this is a little it's
Speaker 1: a worrisome game for the jet.
Speaker 4: And to get to the Jeffrey Simmons saying, when you
Speaker 4: watch that Niners game, their interior players were resetting the
Speaker 4: line of scrimmage over and over. Even one time towards
Speaker 4: the end of the game with the Jets tried to
Speaker 4: run on a short down and distance, they had tight end.
Speaker 3: A full back leading behind a tackle and they got stacked.
Speaker 2: They couldn't run at all.
Speaker 3: It could not run the ball.
Speaker 4: So this is this is something even with this revamped
Speaker 4: offensive line didn't look very physical or didn't look very intimidating.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at that three and a half for the
Speaker 1: Titans for later the week.
Speaker 3: He's got the Jets on fraud. Watch Jets on.
Speaker 4: Early early again a week one the great non truth teller.
Speaker 4: But they're gonna hear a lot. It's gonna be a
Speaker 4: tough film week for them.
Speaker 2: Well, that's a big game. They can't go to no otherwise.
Speaker 3: I haven't even played in met Life, the only team
Speaker 3: of the division to lose. You guys know, things are
Speaker 3: more important in the New York metropolitan so things may
Speaker 3: be very, very different if the Jets don't. It's the
Speaker 3: value is there? All right, guys, It's time for the
Speaker 3: Game of the Week presented by Draft Games. Let's get
Speaker 3: into the rivalry game. It's it's always gonna be rough.
Speaker 3: It's the Cincinnati Bengals at the Kansas City Chiefs, who
Speaker 3: are a five point favorite at home. Greg, I have
Speaker 3: to think that has a lot to do with the
Speaker 3: fact that the Bengals who lose in Week one, Oh yeah, Patriot,
Speaker 3: the Patriots under Zach Taylor lost to your pay. Should
Speaker 3: they be concerned, Greg, going up against a team that
Speaker 3: is giving them so much trouble and a quarterback in
Speaker 3: a wide receiver who've done the same. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, they called it Burrowhead for a little bit.
Speaker 2: They don't. They don't call it now. Maybe this is
Speaker 2: what Joe Burrow needs.
Speaker 1: I spoke about it with Jordan Rodriege and Colleen, like,
Speaker 1: maybe he needs a game, to a big game to
Speaker 1: make him feel alive, to get him out of these
Speaker 1: early season dul drums.
Speaker 2: He's always in.
Speaker 1: You know, they showed him kind of flexing the wrist
Speaker 1: that that is worrisome. I don't know if that's affecting
Speaker 1: his play. It's too hard to guess. But the reason
Speaker 1: why I'm concerned is actually not the Bengals offense, which
Speaker 1: I even if t Higgins doesn't come back, that's uncertain.
Speaker 1: I just I have too much faith in Burrow that
Speaker 1: they get it going. It's the matchup on the other
Speaker 1: side of the ball. The guys are so open last
Speaker 1: week for the Chiefs, they have extra rest coming into
Speaker 1: this game. They have all this Rashi Rice on these
Speaker 1: free releases, and now he's running slants. They're expanding kind
Speaker 1: of what he does. He's they're an empty They were
Speaker 1: really dictating against a really good Ravens defense the matchups
Speaker 1: that they wanted. And I was thinking, like, how how
Speaker 1: is Patrick Mahomes the better when he's not as flashy,
Speaker 1: And to me, maybe it's because of just the pocket movement.
Speaker 1: He's always been good, but now it's like you mentioned before,
Speaker 1: how Richardson disregards the first guy. Mahomes is like that
Speaker 1: with every guy, except he's still throwing in the pocket.
Speaker 1: And it's just incredible and he'll need that because he's
Speaker 1: going up against Hendrickson in this group.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I was at that opener and it was such an
Speaker 4: exhibition of great coaching by Andy Reid. He saw that
Speaker 4: the Ravens are leaving open the middle of the field.
Speaker 4: He was matching up linebackers on his wide receivers. I mean,
Speaker 4: you saw Roe Kwan Smith chasing Rashid Rice. I mean,
Speaker 4: they did some incredible things. I don't think lou Ana
Speaker 4: Roumo is gonna put his linebackers asking them to do
Speaker 4: as much, but again, they were really put in tremendous
Speaker 4: conflict by Andy Reid.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna flip it back though. I mean, I know Joe.
Speaker 4: Burrow used to be Burrowhead, but this Chief defense is
Speaker 4: a different monster in the last two years. And what
Speaker 4: you saw that game down the opener, it came down
Speaker 4: to Lamar Jackson just being superman against the defense that
Speaker 4: had everything else blocked up until and Patrick.
Speaker 3: We were talking about it.
Speaker 4: The back half of the fourth quarter, when the Ravens
Speaker 4: went up tempo and they went no huddle, that's when
Speaker 4: they started moving the ball on the Chief. That's when
Speaker 4: they started being on schedule. Maybe we'll see some of
Speaker 4: that early on the game for Cincinnati, to try to
Speaker 4: prevent some of the substitutions for the Chiefs and to
Speaker 4: allow them to get into a type of a rhythm,
Speaker 4: because that's one thing that Chiefs defense in the opener
Speaker 4: did not let the Ravens do.
Speaker 3: Until a get in the back half of the fourth
Speaker 3: quarter and Lamar gets time, He's able to get those
Speaker 3: balls to Isaiah, likely because they're they're staying on the field,
Speaker 3: they're in the hurry up. Lamar has been running all game. Yes,
Speaker 3: Chris Jones was wiped out. Ye, he was absolutely zeroed out,
Speaker 3: and that provided the assistance. The Bengals an't gonna have
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow running like that. I don't think it's smart
Speaker 3: for Joe to be aggressive like that. He can be,
Speaker 3: but it's it's really just is can they rely on
Speaker 3: Joe and Jamar to make those types of plays? Was
Speaker 3: that all Christian Gonzales was that a little bit of
Speaker 3: hangover from off season stuff with Jamar Chase have to
Speaker 3: be explosive against Case and they just could do nothing right.
Speaker 3: And again, if Tanner Hudson doesn't get the ball knocked
Speaker 3: away from Kyle Duggart, right, if there's no fumble, right,
Speaker 3: we're looking we might be looking at this game a
Speaker 3: whole lot differently.
Speaker 2: But man, it's a big spot. It's a big spot.
Speaker 3: Five is a big number.
Speaker 2: Two though it was six.
Speaker 1: So so the public agrees with you and it brought
Speaker 1: it back. It's a big game, though you don't. I
Speaker 1: know they've done it before and they've rallied, but it's
Speaker 1: just tough start in your season. Oh win two, So
Speaker 1: it's a it's a big game for them. It's also
Speaker 1: a big game for Tony Romo. I mentioned how I
Speaker 1: thought he was kind of ducking the competition last week
Speaker 1: with Tom Brady was on a four h five game,
Speaker 1: and so this is back at his big spot. Patrick
Speaker 1: with that, with the world watching the four to twenty five,
Speaker 1: this is the big game. This is his game. Really,
Speaker 1: He's probably called it many times before. He needs to
Speaker 1: have a big gear.
Speaker 3: And I think the winner here is the people, right, Yes,
Speaker 3: because Tony came out, he was he was explosive, he
Speaker 3: was prepared, he was excited, and maybe maybe we locked
Speaker 3: a little bit of that. And so now that Tom
Speaker 3: is dominating the discussion, whether you know again Tom's calling
Speaker 3: his first game like Jill a little bit, and people
Speaker 3: were thinking Scott Hansen was being critical of Tom. Like no,
Speaker 3: Scott was just excited, like I was to see a
Speaker 3: seventy one yard field goal, and he wanted Tom to
Speaker 3: be as excited as everyone else was. They wasn't saying
Speaker 3: Tom's bad. I think Tom being in the broadcast booth
Speaker 3: in general. I don't know if if Tony's ducking folks, okay,
Speaker 3: but I do know that that it helps with the
Speaker 3: idea that like, hey, you know people people want to
Speaker 3: hear Tom Brady and Tony rom was going to come
Speaker 3: out and say this is this is why I'm here.
Speaker 3: I like this. He's gonna up his game.
Speaker 1: I mean he he's heard, he's heard the criticism out there.
Speaker 1: Hopefully the Bengals run defense has too. That's been the
Speaker 1: big concerned in Cincinnati this week that they were a
Speaker 1: bad run events last year. Then you lose DJ Reader
Speaker 1: and they got steam rolled last week. So they will
Speaker 1: be challenged by the Chiefs and their big front in
Speaker 1: Isaiah Pacheco. Let's take a quick break. Yeah, that's the
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Speaker 2: The crown is yours in a city divided by so
Speaker 2: many factions.
Speaker 1: Kendrick Lamar proof that one man night, Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: But what if it was two.
Speaker 5: Pop out to sofar stadium all season long to catch
Speaker 5: Jim Harbaugh. He'll bring extra Khakis, extra blockers, and a
Speaker 5: return to simpler times with good kids in this mad
Speaker 5: city when the forward passed was backwards, thinking to.
Speaker 2: Leave your swimming pools on Sundays and drank with us. Oh,
Speaker 2: and we have some decent players too. Pay four by
Speaker 2: the who's got the hot shot coach?
Speaker 1: Now, how rams actual.
Speaker 4: Chargers We're not like aggressive, We're like we're not like
Speaker 4: Greg Patrick.
Speaker 3: No, that's the goal is to try to get like Greg.
Speaker 3: But sometimes you know.
Speaker 2: Chargers, you know, coming after him, they're China.
Speaker 1: It's it's like when the Clippers put up those billboards
Speaker 1: you know about the Lakers a few years back. It's
Speaker 1: the Chargers taken over, and you know they have good
Speaker 1: players too.
Speaker 3: And here's the thing. The Chargers are six and a
Speaker 3: half point favorites two thousand and one hundred and twenty
Speaker 3: miles away from Los Angeles International Airport on the road
Speaker 3: to take on Bryce Young, Dave Canalis and the Carolina Panthers,
Speaker 3: who were run all over, all over by Alba Kamara
Speaker 3: and the Saints in Week one. Incomes JK. Dobbins, greg
Speaker 3: who had thirteen yards of carry, which what is crazy?
Speaker 3: What are they gonna do against the Panthers.
Speaker 1: They'll probably do whatever they want because the Panthers had
Speaker 1: one of the worst defensive lines in the league when
Speaker 1: they had an All Pro and Derek Brown, and now
Speaker 1: they don't have an All Pro. And look, there was
Speaker 1: a lot of interior pressure actually on Justin Herbert last week.
Speaker 1: The Raiders were getting after him early. But that's the
Speaker 1: thing about Harby, you heard it. He not a big
Speaker 1: fan of the Ford pat They stayed consistent with the run.
Speaker 1: It really wasn't working all day. You just wait and
Speaker 1: wait and waiting. It finally popped and they might not
Speaker 1: have to wait as long this week for it to POPSI.
Speaker 4: There's nothing like seeing a team as a six and
Speaker 4: a half point favorite with an over underline of thirty.
Speaker 3: Eight and a half.
Speaker 4: Oh, that's I mean, that means you're not thinking the
Speaker 4: other team's gonna score very much, that being the Carolina Panthers. Look,
Speaker 4: I spoke to somebody in league circles. I'll put it
Speaker 4: to you that way. Who saw the game with the
Speaker 4: Panthers and the Saints. It said, Carolina Panthers are just
Speaker 4: not a good football team. Just look again, it's week one.
Speaker 4: They could have been totally discombobulated, but they did not
Speaker 4: come down ready to play in week one, playing against
Speaker 4: a team that is not going to beat itself. I mean,
Speaker 4: the Chargers are going to be fundamentally sound. You know
Speaker 4: what they are, you know their identity. They are going
Speaker 4: to pound the ball, they're going to run the ball,
Speaker 4: and they're going to choke you out defensively.
Speaker 3: Maybe nothing spectacular, but if Bryce.
Speaker 4: Young and the way that the Carolina Panthers came out
Speaker 4: and tried to do whatever they didn't functionally do against
Speaker 4: the Saints, this is gonna get bad. Like they're at home,
Speaker 4: they have got to find some semblance of a running
Speaker 4: game to take the pressure off of Bryce.
Speaker 3: But he just looked bad. I mean, look at that throw.
Speaker 3: Right there.
Speaker 4: And you know, another person said to me, some of
Speaker 4: the things that concerned you about why he shouldn't have
Speaker 4: been the top pick have surfaced a little too often,
Speaker 4: and again we might not be giving him a fair shake. Right,
Speaker 4: we gave Trevor Lawrence a pass on year one. But
Speaker 4: they're like, these things are flaring up, some of the
Speaker 4: things they're saying so against again, a highly physical, disciplined
Speaker 4: Chargers team, they better really reverse as we reverse on
Speaker 4: what happened week one if they want to cover that
Speaker 4: six and a half.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bryce, of course, being the quarterback and the number
Speaker 3: one overall pick, they gave up so much to get
Speaker 3: oh first places a whole lot. But we need some
Speaker 3: other Panthers to be good too, Like Ikey Aquanu got
Speaker 3: absolutely worn out by Chase Young had a career game.
Speaker 3: It was one of the worst games Aquanu gave, giving
Speaker 3: up six pressures and so like I think that there's hope,
Speaker 3: there's some hope for Carolina. You could take solace in this,
Speaker 3: right because Rashisha he catches that fifty five plus yard
Speaker 3: bomb on the on one of the first possessions of
Speaker 3: the game for New Orleans. Justin Herbert had his fewest
Speaker 3: completions of over ten air yards second fewested his entire career.
Speaker 2: So the harball look like they're playing in a phone
Speaker 2: with two Yeah.
Speaker 3: The hardball. Chargers aren't gonna throw up and down Bank
Speaker 3: of America Stadium with big shots. So they don't have
Speaker 3: they don't have anyone to do it. Maybe like they're
Speaker 3: at least style wise, they can take a few body
Speaker 3: shots and maybe have a chance to shock the world.
Speaker 3: Maybe shock me at least because it's it's bad.
Speaker 1: Right now, and wow, shock the world against the Chargers too, like,
Speaker 1: and I love I love the idea that the Chargers
Speaker 1: could get to to and oh and get get at
Speaker 1: a little bit of heat coming.
Speaker 2: Into I think they have the chiefs coming into the building.
Speaker 3: It'll be great. That's gonna be. That's gonna be damn
Speaker 3: next week.
Speaker 1: But one thing if you're a Panthers fan that has
Speaker 1: to concern you is there was so much unblocked pressure
Speaker 1: last week against Bryce Young. And so I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's the coaching which we saw with Philadelphia last year.
Speaker 1: I think it was more about the coaching than it
Speaker 1: necessarily was the quarterback.
Speaker 2: And Bryce Young has some freedom.
Speaker 1: Dave Canaw has talked about this week to change things
Speaker 1: up at the line of scrimmage if we see in something.
Speaker 1: But once that's on tape, you can believe that Jesse
Speaker 1: Minterer that coordinated for the Chargers and Jim Harbaugh they
Speaker 1: saw that too, and so they're gonna have to have
Speaker 1: some answers. And I just don't know if this offense
Speaker 1: is makes sense. We got to see it. Does Bryce
Speaker 1: Young make sense in this style of kind of McVeigh,
Speaker 1: you know, adjacent type of offense.
Speaker 3: Well, look, I mean shorter quarterbacks.
Speaker 4: There are other quarterbacks here, Russell Wilson, Gino Smith, Baker
Speaker 4: Mayfield made sense in this game that Dave Kannalis coach.
Speaker 3: But again it goes down to the protection. You talk
Speaker 3: about ikey Iguanage.
Speaker 2: But those guys were all throwing it deep.
Speaker 1: When I think of like, what was their strength, and
Speaker 1: maybe Bryce Young can do that, but I think of
Speaker 1: him more as maybe get the ball out quickly and
Speaker 1: point guard type.
Speaker 4: Well he's gonna have to because Patrick talked about Ikey
Speaker 4: Iguana Getty steam rolled last week. The Chargers are coming
Speaker 4: to town with Khalil mac Joey Boson, tu La Tuiya
Speaker 4: Polo two.
Speaker 3: Those dudes get after it now.
Speaker 4: So it's gonna have to be a quick passing game
Speaker 4: unless it's just a twenty step drop for Bryce shung to.
Speaker 3: You have to buy time and launch it. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: there's there's plenty that the Panthers have put on film
Speaker 3: for people to see. In that film everybody has access to.
Speaker 3: We know what Harball and company can do when they
Speaker 3: have film that only they have access to. Oh, it's
Speaker 3: gonna be something. It's the Carolina Panthers. From there, we
Speaker 3: go to another revenge game after being discarded by the
Speaker 3: San Francisco for I'm just kidding. Sam Darnold coming back
Speaker 3: to take on the place that kind of reborn. It
Speaker 3: gave him another opportunity. He's back and starting now after
Speaker 3: the injury. The Minnesota Vikings are a six point underdog
Speaker 3: at home. Wow, that's a huge number. Man Rock and
Speaker 3: Trenton Company. After Greg they blitzed the Giants in MetLife
Speaker 3: on a day where they're celebrating the franchise and everybody
Speaker 3: left two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know who else they blitzed last year on
Speaker 1: Monday Night football kind of Brian Flores his big coming
Speaker 1: out party as a defensive quarter the San Francisco.
Speaker 2: Forty nine ers.
Speaker 1: Brock Perty has never looked worse than he did in
Speaker 1: that game. Now, knowing Flora's not personally, but just knowing
Speaker 1: his get down, my guess is he'll flip the script
Speaker 1: this year and he doesn't need to blitz quite as
Speaker 1: much because they have better pass rushers overall, or they
Speaker 1: feel like they're they're deeper. Obviously you lose Denel Hunter,
Speaker 1: you don't get better, but they have more players there.
Speaker 1: Dallas Turner had a sack last week. Van ginkels out
Speaker 1: there doing all sorts of things. Brian Flores loves him,
Speaker 1: and you have Jonathan Grenard. You got the safeties, so
Speaker 1: he won't do the same plan as last time. But
Speaker 1: you better believe that Kyle Shanahan is a little more
Speaker 1: prepared for what's coming at him. It sounds like, though,
Speaker 1: according to our guy Ian rapport, that CMC will probably
Speaker 1: not play I think so in this game. Jordan Addison
Speaker 1: also ify he missed practiced on Wednesday.
Speaker 4: Yeah, remember Ryan Flores came out blitzing like that. That's
Speaker 4: the game when the Niners didn't have Debo or Trent
Speaker 4: Williams either. Both of those guys will be playing huge
Speaker 4: roles in this game. But that's still that's a huge number.
Speaker 4: I mean, San Francisco's coming off a game that they
Speaker 4: were really pumped up for. Jordan Mason running back is Mason.
Speaker 2: It's Jordan Mason. Baby.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I just want to make sure Georgia, Texa
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 2: He's not in my starting fantasy lineup this week.
Speaker 3: Let's go.
Speaker 1: I drafted Jordan Mason. I saw anybody, No, I just
Speaker 1: took him. I just took him. Wow.
Speaker 4: But I mean, look at the blocking we're watching video
Speaker 4: right here. There is nothing but red just annihilating guys
Speaker 4: and white jerts. It's not going to be like that
Speaker 4: against the Vikings. I mean, the Vikings and Flora will
Speaker 4: scheme things up. I don't think Sam Frantis who is
Speaker 4: gonna be able to run the ball a little bit more.
Speaker 4: The Vikings are a tougher team. It's not that they
Speaker 4: just mopped up on the Giants. They are going to
Speaker 4: be a better team than people expect. I think this
Speaker 4: is gonna be a really challenging game. Remember the forty
Speaker 4: nine went up there and they coughed the ball up
Speaker 4: a couple times last year.
Speaker 3: That's gonna be a point of emphasis.
Speaker 4: But I think this is gonna be a highly contested
Speaker 4: game and that's why I'm looking at that number at six.
Speaker 2: And a half.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would like six.
Speaker 4: Like wow, that's a big number, you know, for the
Speaker 4: game being in Minnesota as well.
Speaker 2: For a team that's really talented. I think that gets lost.
Speaker 1: So I just mentioned a lot of like kind of
Speaker 1: the periphery defensive players. But you have maybe the best
Speaker 1: tackle combination in football, well one Cristin Darisaw and O'Neill.
Speaker 2: And maybe they canmit again.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no great matchup against Nick Bosa, but
Speaker 1: maybe they can do a good job. They're like they
Speaker 1: have legit players. Aaron Jones last week, I mean I
Speaker 1: would say it's the Fountain youth. But he looked great
Speaker 1: at the end of last year too. He looked like
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones.
Speaker 3: Yeah, six point seven yards per carry against the Giants.
Speaker 3: This this is the Giants defense, uh with Fred and
Speaker 3: company who gave Breese and the Jets all kinds. But again,
Speaker 3: as the Jets, it's week one. Perhaps the Jets are
Speaker 3: on fraud watch it and we don't necessarily know, but
Speaker 3: they they look Darrisaul was spectacular. Yes, great to see
Speaker 3: Aaron Jones still doing it and his kind of I
Speaker 3: can't wait for for his like actual revenge game. I
Speaker 3: hope Jordan Love is back for that one. But it's
Speaker 3: six points. I understand it. It makes sense to me.
Speaker 3: I may have them them covering that just really based
Speaker 3: on everybody being back. A gets Yeah, he'll be better. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think he catches that touchdown nine times out of ten,
Speaker 3: and it's it's tough. It's a tough spot for the Vikings.
Speaker 3: But show me Sam, show me.
Speaker 2: That for test.
Speaker 1: You know, he was very good last week when they
Speaker 1: did blitz Sam Darnold. I have a theory that he's
Speaker 1: almost better when he doesn't have time to think. It's
Speaker 1: like you blitz him and he's like, I just got
Speaker 1: to get.
Speaker 2: Rid of the ball.
Speaker 1: When he holds the ball in his career included even
Speaker 1: last week, the numbers aren't as good then just things
Speaker 1: get muddy and confused.
Speaker 2: But so maybe don't blitz him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean paralysis by over analysis Joey Harrington syndrome.
Speaker 4: You got too much time, you're gonna overthink about all
Speaker 4: the possibilities. Get it out, especially to a guy we
Speaker 4: haven't mentioned justin Jefferson, You'll be able to do some
Speaker 4: things against this defense, which is a.
Speaker 3: Weird juxtaposition with him and Brock. They were on the
Speaker 3: same team, because when Brock gets on the outside and
Speaker 3: things get a little squirrely, he knows exactly what to do,
Speaker 3: and he's so calm, so operating about it. He'll throw
Speaker 3: a spin move in there. It's fun, it's always, but
Speaker 3: almost as fun as a chance to see the number
Speaker 3: one overall pick Caleb Williams on Sunday Night Football, a
Speaker 3: six point dog to the Houston Texans, who were spectacular
Speaker 3: with their new additions. Joe Mixon goes off, as well
Speaker 3: as two touchdowns for Stefan Diggs. Greg Is there a
Speaker 3: world in which Caleb and the Bears defense can overcome
Speaker 3: this monster of the Houston Texas.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, there's a world. I'm not living in that world.
Speaker 1: Like you know, it's a six point spread that feels
Speaker 1: about right to me, Like I feel comfortable the Texans
Speaker 1: win this game. I would, I would, I would feel
Speaker 1: good about that. And yet this is a perfect Sunday
Speaker 1: Night game. I gotta give a shout out to is
Speaker 1: it Mike North in the scheduling department. Yes, they came
Speaker 1: out with the primetime games in Week one and they
Speaker 1: say like fire show. It's like a concert that starts
Speaker 1: with all your biggest songs. Okay, now we're sliding into
Speaker 1: Week two. I'm not going to say they're like deep
Speaker 1: album cuts, but very nice. Thursday night matchup with Miami
Speaker 1: Buffalo and in this to be is a perfect Week
Speaker 1: two Sunday night. Let's get Caleb Williams in early. He
Speaker 1: has some answers, some questions to answer.
Speaker 2: You have CJ.
Speaker 1: Stroud, our next big star, the number two pick last year.
Speaker 2: It's absolutely perfect.
Speaker 1: And yet I think the biggest single mismatch in this
Speaker 1: entire game, at least if Week one wasn't a liar,
Speaker 1: is the Houston Texans running game. They went from worse
Speaker 1: to first, worse than the league DVOA last year to
Speaker 1: best in the league in Week one, and that is
Speaker 1: the way you always want to attack a Matt Eberflu's defense.
Speaker 2: They are built to stop the pass.
Speaker 1: They are fantastic stopping the past, and their pass rush
Speaker 1: was good last week too, but they weren't as good
Speaker 1: against the run. They're traditionally not as good against the run.
Speaker 1: So is this Joe Mixon rushing attack a lot of
Speaker 1: times into light boxes because you have all these great receivers.
Speaker 2: Is that for real?
Speaker 1: Because if it is, this is gonna be a top
Speaker 1: three offense in the NFL.
Speaker 4: So Houston goes out and gets Joe Mixon because he's
Speaker 4: familiar with the zone runs game. Damian Pierce was not.
Speaker 4: That was something that he's gotten better, right. But mixing
Speaker 4: comes in and you see it operate functionally and what
Speaker 4: Bobby Schlook likes to do offensively.
Speaker 3: That's gonna set up so much more.
Speaker 4: And we know the Texas, They've got receivers for days,
Speaker 4: they've got tight ends for days, and they've got a
Speaker 4: strong offensive line.
Speaker 3: I'm just looking a let's go.
Speaker 4: Back to Caleb Williams, who, by the way, still is
Speaker 4: not on Quarterback Island.
Speaker 1: Greg, Oh, that was a good call, you guys, at
Speaker 1: least after one week relaxed. I was trying to put
Speaker 1: him onto the island. If you missed it, we will
Speaker 1: be bringing back quarterback Island. It is a special place
Speaker 1: where only ten quarterbacks twelve quarterbacks can live. And I thought, Caleb,
Speaker 1: you should just start him there since he's going to
Speaker 1: be there his whole career, but maybe I was wrong
Speaker 1: about that. Well, we'll revisit in a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: on a Tuesday.
Speaker 4: But his comp his comp was CJ Stroud, I mean,
Speaker 4: and the Bears, Brian Pace.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Ryan Poles, not Ryan Pace. Ryan Poles general manager.
Speaker 4: You know at the Hall of Fame game, he told
Speaker 4: me and Brian Baldinger, we're not running from that comp
Speaker 4: We think the fact that c J. Stroud came out
Speaker 4: and lit it up like that as a rookie is
Speaker 4: something that Caleb Williams can do. They've put him in
Speaker 4: position to do it now. He said, Caleb has to
Speaker 4: run his own race, but they think he's talented enough
Speaker 4: to do the great things that c J. Stroud did.
Speaker 4: Don't think a competitor like c J Stroud has not
Speaker 4: heard that. Also, yeah'll spice.
Speaker 2: It off and CJ.
Speaker 1: To be fair, his first couple games were not crazy. Now,
Speaker 1: he didn't have like a ninety three yard game, but
Speaker 1: he did have one game where he really struggled. That
Speaker 1: was about it. But even but they were more conservative early.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was about being conservative with the
Speaker 1: Bears last week, they just you know, he missed it.
Speaker 2: It was a combination.
Speaker 1: I think he made more good plays in that game
Speaker 1: than I expected when I went to rewatch it. But
Speaker 1: he struggled when he was under pressure, and he didn't
Speaker 1: create kind of like he expected. There was like one
Speaker 1: or two plays, but when he tried to go into
Speaker 1: create mode, it didn't work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we saw the preseason magic. Of course, the
Speaker 3: spin throw to Romo Dunze. We saw that a million
Speaker 3: times out of the preseason, but like it wasn't just
Speaker 3: when there was no pressure. When the time to throw
Speaker 3: was over two and a half seconds, he was three
Speaker 3: or thirteen mm through the air. And and some of
Speaker 3: those there's the keenan Allen drop, right, there's the one
Speaker 3: he missed, Keen Nollen. You can pick and choose there.
Speaker 3: But where Caleb succeeded was he didn't on the other
Speaker 3: side like Will Levis's of whirling urbans throwing the ball
Speaker 3: to the other team and fumbles and all this other stuff.
Speaker 3: But Caleb had that nice third and ten run that
Speaker 3: set up a Cairo Santos field goal, the cut into
Speaker 3: that lead to give that defensive play a chance to
Speaker 3: tie the ball game up, and ultimately, like no turnovers,
Speaker 3: he took the ball, No, he's not. You know CJ.
Speaker 3: Stroud or in that early game last year against Anthony
Speaker 3: Richardson where he throws for three hundred and eighty something
Speaker 3: yards and it's like world beating.
Speaker 1: Maybe this week Sunday Night football. He's a big time player.
Speaker 3: Got a chance? Why not? Why not?
Speaker 2: I love that would be fun. I own that said.
Speaker 1: I almost took this as my Survivor pick Texans over
Speaker 1: the Bears.
Speaker 3: Thought about it. So, speaking of the state of Texas,
Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys, we're going to be at home in
Speaker 3: our next game where they play host to Derek Carr
Speaker 3: and the New Orleans Saints, who took the foot off
Speaker 3: the gas and still scored forty seven points. Again the
Speaker 3: Carolina Panthers. Dallas is a six and a half. That's
Speaker 3: a point favorite over this New Orleans Saints team. Greg
Speaker 3: where Alva Kamara looked great. Talis Uaga was incredible against
Speaker 3: the Carolina Panthers. It's the Panthers caveat we get to
Speaker 3: find out what's real and what's not here because the
Speaker 3: Cowboys are kind of this litmus test type team where
Speaker 3: you could tell if you're really.
Speaker 2: Over or not right.
Speaker 1: I think it's the ultimate sort of Week two reality
Speaker 1: check or test that you actually might have it for
Speaker 1: the Saints offensive line, specifically more than any other group
Speaker 1: in this game. The Saints offensive line coming into the
Speaker 1: season looked like such a problem it might hold the
Speaker 1: whole team back.
Speaker 2: They had a great Week one.
Speaker 1: Now they were playing the Panthers who have no one
Speaker 1: really upfront, but Trevor Penny the best game of his career, like,
Speaker 1: looked like an NFL player. Now you got to go
Speaker 1: up against DeMarcus Lawrence and Michael Parsons who's lining up
Speaker 1: in different spots when he's rushing, and they're a little
Speaker 1: deeper than we expect. Did because this kid de marve
Speaker 1: On Overshan who linebacker, looked good. Kneeland's out there, he's
Speaker 1: a rookie setting the edge. Like there's just a lot
Speaker 1: to deal with. So we'll see if the Saints offensive
Speaker 1: line can hold up. And it's the scheme with Clint Kubiak,
Speaker 1: because if they can, they had a good, cohesive looking
Speaker 1: running game. I just don't know if it was just
Speaker 1: Week one. I will say that I know last year
Speaker 1: they didn't look like that against the worst defense in
Speaker 1: the league ever. The Saints offense so I already feel
Speaker 1: much better, especially about the running game in Alvin Kamara.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, look, the Cowboys came out looked. They look
Speaker 4: like a dominant defense. I mean Cleveland they just could
Speaker 4: not figure it. I think part of that's on Cleveland.
Speaker 4: So this is why I'm saying this is a test,
Speaker 4: like this is a big number, because maybe the Saints
Speaker 4: are a little bit better than what we thought. Are
Speaker 4: the Cowboys as good? Especially on defense? I think again
Speaker 4: the Saints calling card though is their defense.
Speaker 3: But is Dak gonna be able to move with the ball?
Speaker 3: And now we know the Browns had a great defense.
Speaker 4: But the Saints have been like a top eight defense
Speaker 4: for five or six years in a row. And of
Speaker 4: course they came on they dominated Carolina Panthers. I think
Speaker 4: they're gonna have a little something. They tend to play
Speaker 4: the Cowboys tough. I think they're gonna be able to
Speaker 4: generate some stuff like Dallas is gonna be able to
Speaker 4: run the ball on the Saints like they did against Cleveland.
Speaker 3: They were They were really.
Speaker 2: Good offensively until the second half.
Speaker 1: For what it's worth. I know they had a big lead,
Speaker 1: but they didn't do it. They had like fifty yards
Speaker 1: in the second.
Speaker 4: It was all CD Lamb and that was the thing.
Speaker 4: It was a pitching gat. Dak and Ceedee Lamb look great,
Speaker 4: But otherwise you just were kind of That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You're kind of wondering with all of the stuff, with
Speaker 4: that the Saints have in their secondary and tomorrow Davis
Speaker 4: being one of the best players in the NFL and
Speaker 4: some of the stuff they do up front, I think
Speaker 4: this is gonna be a very tough game for Dallas's defense.
Speaker 1: Just one injury note about that secondary, and these were
Speaker 1: kind of surprises. Tyron Matthew miss practice Wednesday with a
Speaker 1: hamstring injury, and Marshawn Lattimore also missed practice, So if
Speaker 1: they were both out that that would hurt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, kol A McKinstry, the rookie came in and replaced
Speaker 3: Marshawn Latimore and the third orps and the Saints. You know,
Speaker 3: that's kind of because there was the off season discussion
Speaker 3: about whether or not Marshan gets traded, right, I think
Speaker 3: they make the right decision and keep him because there's
Speaker 3: more value if he stays there and you get a
Speaker 3: very good football player. But the plans in place for
Speaker 3: Marshawn if he's if he's not available, my overall question
Speaker 3: is gonna be the same question with the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 3: week in and week out. I understand it was the
Speaker 3: Browns in week one, but the run game is is
Speaker 3: an afterthought at this point. It seems like a tacit
Speaker 3: admission that, hey, like, we're not necessarily prioritizing ball. We'll
Speaker 3: get Rico a few carries, a z Heke comes in,
Speaker 3: he gets some give up carries. Maybe Dak will check
Speaker 3: to it. But it's so much to put on Dak
Speaker 3: and CD. But if you're gonna put a lot on
Speaker 3: two players in the NFL at this point in their careers,
Speaker 3: it's Dak and those two.
Speaker 1: That's why I want That's why I want the same
Speaker 1: secondary to be healthy for this game, because it that's
Speaker 1: a tough matchup. I think this could be a bit
Speaker 1: of a rock fight where yeah, six and a half
Speaker 1: points feels like a lot, just because the final score
Speaker 1: could be something like seventeen to thirteen in either direction.
Speaker 3: And if Jake Ferguson which his health status to the
Speaker 3: tight end.
Speaker 2: They seem hopeful that he'll play. I think he was
Speaker 2: a big.
Speaker 3: Part of what they do. Yeah, okay, more more more,
Speaker 3: Luke Schoonmaker, which is you know.
Speaker 2: I'm one.
Speaker 1: I'm at least one week away, probably two before issuing
Speaker 1: an apology for the incredible amount of Eric Kendricks slander.
Speaker 1: I put it on this podcast, however, because he had
Speaker 1: a great week one. Their linebackers look good. Maybe Mike
Speaker 1: Zimmer knows what he's doing.
Speaker 3: Zim's gotta figure it out.
Speaker 1: And if we'll see, I'm giving in another week before
Speaker 1: I'm gonna issue an apologies.
Speaker 3: And if Eric Kendricks has lost steps to marve On
Speaker 3: Overshawan makes up for that, Okay, and his ability because
Speaker 3: covering that space to get Deshaun Watson last week was
Speaker 3: one of the scariest, insane examples of speed from a linebacker.
Speaker 4: The rosie just wants to take a backhanded slab of
Speaker 4: Brandon Staley.
Speaker 1: What uh yeah, that's a fair point. He's making me
Speaker 1: look bad. Not the only one, Oh yeah taking shots
Speaker 1: at Brandon Staley. Right, I'm saying I'm not the only
Speaker 1: one Brandon Staley made look bad because it's him that
Speaker 1: made Eric Kendricks takes It's it's a tangled web. We
Speaker 1: should we take one more break. Let's do it on
Speaker 1: the podcast. We will be back and wrap up our
Speaker 1: week to preview right after this back on NFL Daily.
Speaker 1: Wanted to hear some words from Tyreek Hill on Wednesday.
Speaker 1: Of course, they're playing on Thursday Night Football, so they're
Speaker 1: not part of this preview show. But this story of
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill when he was detained from police officers and
Speaker 1: pulled out of his car has just been one of
Speaker 1: the most upsetting and unique stories I can remember covering
Speaker 1: the league in Tyreek Hill was on the podium talking
Speaker 1: about it on Wednesday.
Speaker 6: Yes, I will say I could have been better. You know,
Speaker 6: I could have let on my window, you know, in
Speaker 6: that instant. It's shell shocking, man. Is really it's really
Speaker 6: crazy to know that, you know, you have officers in
Speaker 6: this world that would literally do that with body cams on.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: It's sad.
Speaker 6: It's really sad, which brings up another conversation and leads
Speaker 6: into what would they do if they didn't have body cams,
Speaker 6: which is even crazier.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, he said he didn't want attention, he didn't
Speaker 1: want to be cameras out. He saw the phones tape
Speaker 1: in them and and uh, that's what he was when
Speaker 1: he was talking about the windows, and then he did
Speaker 1: add and I wanted to put this in Now, does
Speaker 1: that give them the right to literally beat the dog
Speaker 1: out of me?
Speaker 3: Absolutely not, No, it doesn't if anybody's seen any of
Speaker 3: the multiple angles. There was one angle included, which was
Speaker 3: frustrating me once I saw it on Sunday, because you know,
Speaker 3: the verbiage that we use, the official verbage right, and
Speaker 3: the police or the arbiter effect, and their statements get
Speaker 3: to be presented as fact, and so it's it's detained.
Speaker 3: But there's a clear video of Tyrek Hill being struck
Speaker 3: while he's being held by two officers and in handcuffed,
Speaker 3: and so the language that we would use in another circumstance,
Speaker 3: if that happened to one of the ten to fifteen
Speaker 3: police officers, there would be the Tyreek Hill assaulted besaults. Yes.
Speaker 3: But because the position right of the positionality and the
Speaker 3: power structures only allow things to be said where people
Speaker 3: take what they say as a statement of fact as
Speaker 3: the universe's depiction of events, that we have to wait
Speaker 3: for evidence to the contrary, and time after time after
Speaker 3: time we find out that the initial reports from the
Speaker 3: police don't actually represent the sequence of events. And my
Speaker 3: overall question is if public safety is the priority, and
Speaker 3: we have ten to fifteen officers devoted to this going
Speaker 3: sixty in a forty outside the stadium, then is the
Speaker 3: priority of public safety what's happening everywhere else? Or maybe
Speaker 3: the priority is just for this to be what happens.
Speaker 3: And I understand that Miami's investigating, and and Tyreek Hill
Speaker 3: is saying that, you know, one officer should be fired.
Speaker 3: There were a whole lot of officers were completely fine
Speaker 3: with that sequence of events. And were there no evidence,
Speaker 3: I think we would just only hear whatever they say happened. Well,
Speaker 3: let's bring it to something that was current in the
Speaker 3: sports world. When Scotty Scheffler got pulled over. Was he
Speaker 3: getting roughed up? Okay, you see the dynamic I'm drawing here.
Speaker 4: If that were Scotti Scheffler who was speeding in his
Speaker 4: Lamborghini down there in Miami Gardens, would those four police
Speaker 4: officers have rouffed him up the same way?
Speaker 3: Had he if he handled things the same way?
Speaker 4: And yes, I've gone there because Patrick and I have experiences,
Speaker 4: We've seen this. Right, If it were a white dude
Speaker 4: built like Tyreek does en roll down his window.
Speaker 3: Are they yanking him out of the cart? Maybe okay?
Speaker 4: But after that, are they putting hands on him like
Speaker 4: the way they did?
Speaker 3: And the other part Patrick, because he showed me that.
Speaker 4: Patrick showed me the tape when an officer kicked Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 4: That I had not seen before was the aggressiveness at which
Speaker 4: they went after Kalay's Campbell, right, Like, what are we
Speaker 4: doing here? When Patrick talks about is the issue is
Speaker 4: public safety, He's sitting here saying like, hey, this is
Speaker 4: my guy. I'm just making sure everything's okay here. I've
Speaker 4: seen that I'm making sure everything's okay here. This is
Speaker 4: one of the most decent human beings you'll ever meet.
Speaker 4: In clay Is Campbell, shit out up, I'm cuffing you up? Like,
Speaker 4: what are we doing here? These are four hyper adrenalized
Speaker 4: at least four hyper generalized police officers in the moment.
Speaker 3: And we know that police officers have a tough job
Speaker 3: to do, right that they save lives.
Speaker 4: There are the first people I'm calling when I'm in trouble,
Speaker 4: when I'm worried, Right, But this was a situation where
Speaker 4: it seemed like okay, once Tyreek did not drop his
Speaker 4: or lower his window upon the request of the police officer,
Speaker 4: which Tyreek said, I should have handled that better.
Speaker 3: It was hyper adrenaline mode. Let's go.
Speaker 4: And it is as Tyreek said, what if I wasn't
Speaker 4: a famous football player, what if these guys didn't have
Speaker 4: body cams on?
Speaker 3: You know, it's and.
Speaker 2: What would happen is what's been happening.
Speaker 3: For yam of time. We've seen.
Speaker 4: We saw the young man in Memphis where those police
Speaker 4: officers would have probably gotten a way fort one for
Speaker 4: surveillance camera because they turned their cameras off.
Speaker 3: Any number of incidents happened every single day that we're
Speaker 3: not going to hear about, correct, and we won't hear about.
Speaker 3: And I just I keep coming back because because I
Speaker 3: understand Tyreek has a particular beef right with the officer
Speaker 3: who struck him right and the officer who took exception
Speaker 3: to the speed at which he rolled down his window.
Speaker 3: But again, every officer that was there, whose job right
Speaker 3: allegedly is to protect public safety and de escalate situations,
Speaker 3: was completely fine with the things that happened, completely fine
Speaker 3: because they allowed it to happen. That's their choice, that's
Speaker 3: the job they chose, and so if they're going to
Speaker 3: do that right and occupy thirty three percent of the
Speaker 3: City of Miami's budget, maybe they should do it and
Speaker 3: real quick.
Speaker 4: I will say this, and it goes back to the
Speaker 4: late Jason Jenkins, who used to be the Dolphins media
Speaker 4: relations director, a friend of mine and one of the
Speaker 4: most astute people. The Dolphins have an incredible partnership with
Speaker 4: police forces in Miami, Miami Gardens this and so it
Speaker 4: is gonna be interesting to see how this goes. I mean,
Speaker 4: it is a very very strong tie. I think I've
Speaker 4: even interviewed the police chief of Miami Gardens as part
Speaker 4: of a program that the Dolphins had.
Speaker 3: How does this work.
Speaker 4: Are the police all of a sudden be like, we're
Speaker 4: not gonna help you guys out because we're getting bad
Speaker 4: mouthed by you because you're talking tough with us. We've
Speaker 4: seen these threats before. We saw it in Cleveland a
Speaker 4: couple of years ago. So it's gonna be interesting to see.
Speaker 4: But hopefully the bigger conversation comes down to please do
Speaker 4: your job. You don't always have to be as physical
Speaker 4: and aggressive in doing so.
Speaker 3: Hopefully right and the outcome here is people who would
Speaker 3: have been less safe and less safe in these circumstances.
Speaker 3: Hopefully people in Miami, in the entire county area will
Speaker 3: be safer throughout all of this. Maybe maybe, But guys,
Speaker 3: we have a bird fight on Monday Night football. Kirk
Speaker 3: Cousins and the Atlanta Falcons get a chance to get
Speaker 3: back out and get a win. They are six and
Speaker 3: a half point dogs against Jalen Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles,
Speaker 3: who got the win last week on Friday Night. Tro
Speaker 3: Joe Buck, Troy Aikman, and Lisa Salters on the call. Steve,
Speaker 3: you've you've watched the Kirk o Chains version of Kirk
Speaker 3: Cousins from from the exception to this point? Or are
Speaker 3: we going to get better from Kirk Cousins against the
Speaker 3: Eagles than we did in the loss against the Pittsburgh
Speaker 3: steel Yeah, they should. He should be better.
Speaker 4: I mean he's facing a good defense, but not a
Speaker 4: Steelers defense, right. The Eagles, Yes, they went out and
Speaker 4: they tried to address their secondary, but it was still vulnerable.
Speaker 4: I mean, you saw Jordan Love make plays against this
Speaker 4: Eagle secondary. So offensively. What drove me crazy watching the
Speaker 4: game with the Falcons and the Steelers was they were
Speaker 4: like singing that we're gonna one on one block.
Speaker 3: TJ.
Speaker 4: Watt, Well, you better not do that against the Eagles
Speaker 4: because they're gonna become what we spoke for you. I mean,
Speaker 4: this is this is a lou Anaumo defense. They're gonna
Speaker 4: be blitzing, probably a lot more than the Eagles. They've
Speaker 4: got to do some stuff in the quick passing game,
Speaker 4: but it's just got to be a smarter passing attack.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 4: It was all over the place. I think what they
Speaker 4: try to do offensively was all over the place. Maybe
Speaker 4: condense the playbook. Protect better. I mean, look at that.
Speaker 4: These are all guys one on one beaters right here upfront.
Speaker 4: Protect better and you have an opportunity and run the
Speaker 4: ball better. Okay, we saw the Eagles g get gashed,
Speaker 4: you know in the run game a little bit sometimes
Speaker 4: with Josh Jacobs, run the ball a little bit. Better,
Speaker 4: go go with Bishon and go with Alagi year stay
Speaker 4: out of some of these situations. But I think I
Speaker 4: do think Kirk kirk Cousins will look better playing place.
Speaker 4: He did not look great in that game for a
Speaker 4: lot of different reasons. But again, the Steelers will do
Speaker 4: that to a lot of other quarterbacks, right.
Speaker 1: So I think the Falcons were too confident that their
Speaker 1: offensive line is just going to win matchups, like they
Speaker 1: think of themselves as having one of the best offensive
Speaker 1: lines in the league for good reasons.
Speaker 2: But this is the new coaching staff. It's a different system.
Speaker 2: You just never know.
Speaker 1: And they were going up against maybe the best defensive
Speaker 1: front in the league, and so they lost those matches.
Speaker 1: The thing that would concern me more is how they
Speaker 1: approached the game offensively and what that says about Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1: There was not a single play action pass from Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins in that game. Thanks so he had been averaging
Speaker 1: more than thirty percent of his play He is a
Speaker 1: guy that gets helped by defining what you can define
Speaker 1: by doing the play action pass, and that was extraordinarily
Speaker 1: successful for him when he was with the Vikings, and
Speaker 1: his numbers when he wasn't doing the play action pass
Speaker 1: even with the Vikings last year, weren't that great. So
Speaker 1: how many times did he do it last week?
Speaker 2: Zero?
Speaker 1: And you wonder if that's just because he's a mid
Speaker 1: thirties guy coming off an achilles tear, because the next
Speaker 1: gen stats number in terms of how much they moved.
Speaker 2: I didn't know this was even a.
Speaker 1: Stat some of this stuff they have that they're digging up,
Speaker 1: that he moved an average of three point one yards
Speaker 1: per dropback. It is the least move ment he's ever
Speaker 1: had in a single game of his whole.
Speaker 2: Career by more than a yard. And when you watched
Speaker 2: the couple of times, insane.
Speaker 1: When you watched a couple of times like he he
Speaker 1: he just didn't look like a guy who was confident
Speaker 1: in moving And it's real hard to play quarterback that way.
Speaker 3: And I guess now that my mind's a little blown
Speaker 3: by that stat how much of that was the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 2: Right, That's the thing.
Speaker 1: It's like one week you never know, but the whole
Speaker 1: not no play action and playing out a pistol does
Speaker 1: not make sense.
Speaker 3: That's bad. It was bad the time. There was not
Speaker 3: a lot of out like the you're so used to
Speaker 3: saying Kirk hit those inbreaking routes. He's hitting the defenders
Speaker 3: in the face with those again week one caveat but
Speaker 3: who was not bad in their debut and saving things
Speaker 3: on the other side. As we look in the video
Speaker 3: show of just the passes that he did hit a
Speaker 3: couple to Drake London and and swinging back across, and
Speaker 3: there's a pick to Drake London. But the Kellen Moore
Speaker 3: Philip Delphia Eagles are such a departure where it's like
Speaker 3: you we talked about Todd Bowles and the Blitz with
Speaker 3: Hyden Daniels. The Blitz had the Eagles looking morose last
Speaker 3: year and then in the opener against Green Bay, aside
Speaker 3: from you know, Jayleen will say that was a bad
Speaker 3: decision on the interception, right, but they had answers for
Speaker 3: the Blitz in answers that I don't know if Atlanta
Speaker 3: right has the past rush capacity to bother the Eagles
Speaker 3: enough to keep them in.
Speaker 1: There, though they might want to get a little more aggressive.
Speaker 1: His numbers were great against the Blitz, and there were
Speaker 1: a couple of really nice plays, one to god Or
Speaker 1: I think kal Katara was another one where just quick answers.
Speaker 1: It was awesome, But they didn't do any of those
Speaker 1: big blitz. Is that the things that really got that
Speaker 1: I would still try it. Try to throw to six,
Speaker 1: try to throw seven, let's see what, let's see what happened.
Speaker 1: They were just seven five, and I just would be
Speaker 1: curious to see that, But I don't know if Atlanta
Speaker 1: has necessarily the horses. Ad Terrell is a great cornerback.
Speaker 1: He had a tough yeah, tough Week one. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: gonna have a tough Week one. But that's that's the
Speaker 1: thing that Egles do against you. They have matchup advantages
Speaker 1: because their players are awesome.
Speaker 4: They but the ultimatum advantage of Saquon Barkley. I mean,
Speaker 4: you talk about a blitzpeeder when you've got to also
Speaker 4: keep eyes on Saquon and you have to stop him
Speaker 4: in the run game, that's an issue, right, And we
Speaker 4: saw Pittsburgh het some runs against the Falcons and this
Speaker 4: was a close game, So you know, the six and
Speaker 4: a half number, yeah, I think that's a pretty big number.
Speaker 4: I think Atlanta's offense is going to be better. I
Speaker 4: don't know Philly's gonna be as crisp as they were
Speaker 4: coming out of the gate. But man, when I watched Philly,
Speaker 4: I kept saying that if they're gonna keep getting better
Speaker 4: and better, and this offense is frighteningly scary, especially because
Speaker 4: the slim reaper Vonte Smithley really really good.
Speaker 1: On top of it, defense did some good things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they do creative stuff their pass rush. I think they
Speaker 1: want to get more consistent. But Quinjon mitchell I did
Speaker 1: want to make sure I just mentioned him.
Speaker 2: He just early, just real, just real positive vibe.
Speaker 1: I don't want to get over my skis here of
Speaker 1: like no potential defensive player of the year type of stuff.
Speaker 1: But it was some real like okay, yeah and that
Speaker 1: and that backs up some stuff I some buzz i
Speaker 1: heard from there that they believe they got a real
Speaker 1: good one.
Speaker 3: How he does it again, they let him get away
Speaker 3: with it. So that's a big number. Six and a half.
Speaker 3: Let's add a half a point there. The Detroit Lions
Speaker 3: at home favored over a Tampa Bay Buccaneers team who
Speaker 3: scored a billion points. It was the Washington Commanders a
Speaker 3: billion points against the Washington Commanders and opener Baker Mayfield
Speaker 3: throws four touchdowns. The game is on Fox over under
Speaker 3: fifty one. Greg. The Detroit Lions at the end of
Speaker 3: the game against the Rams were like, hey, we're the Lions,
Speaker 3: We're gonna run you over. It worked out, but seven
Speaker 3: seven points.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's wild.
Speaker 1: I'm big on this Bucks team, and I thought the
Speaker 1: Lions had a pretty uneven performance they did what good
Speaker 1: teams do, which is maybe win a game where you're
Speaker 1: not at your best. But I wasn't overly impressed. And
Speaker 1: the Bucks were at their best last week. And they've
Speaker 1: got guys who I think can really test this Lion's
Speaker 1: secondary where Terry an Ardnold, I think he's going to
Speaker 1: be good. He is aggressive, but had some penalties. They
Speaker 1: could have issues in the back end because I think
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers present matchup problems for you. Chris Godwin looks
Speaker 1: like the old Chris Godwin if the other if that
Speaker 1: guy ever went away, but after all the injuries he's had,
Speaker 1: he's back. McMillan, AD's a nice three, and Mike Evans
Speaker 1: is still Mike Evans. I don't know if Baker is
Speaker 1: going to be that good week after week, but I
Speaker 1: think it'll be a competitive game.
Speaker 2: Like the playoff game.
Speaker 4: It was a playoff it was it was a one
Speaker 4: possession game. Again, this number is crazy to me. A
Speaker 4: seven point game. But yes, Detroit's at home and they
Speaker 4: had to grind it out against the Rams, a tough
Speaker 4: opponent who they knew they were going to have to
Speaker 4: grind it out against. But I think Tampa Bay as
Speaker 4: we're seeing some of their offensive players. I don't know
Speaker 4: if Tampa's gonna function this well offensively because they might
Speaker 4: be playing from behind. You know, they might have to
Speaker 4: do some things that allow, you know, Detroit a certain way,
Speaker 4: but Tampa might be playing from ahead and they can
Speaker 4: they can, you can play a physical style of football.
Speaker 4: I mean, this is gonna be a really, really tough game,
Speaker 4: and Todd Bowles is gonna be giving Ben Johnson looks
Speaker 4: that are gonna really this is gonna be a great
Speaker 4: chess match. I think some of the personnel groupings that
Speaker 4: Detroit's gonna use will probably end up winning some series
Speaker 4: for them. But I think the same thing could be
Speaker 4: said about some of the personnel groupings that the Buccaneers
Speaker 4: will be used defensively and slowing down this offense.
Speaker 1: I think the concern is that Antone Winfield is out
Speaker 1: of this game. You You've had a couple injuries in
Speaker 1: the back end, you have a couple injuries in the front.
Speaker 1: So they are missing somewhere between three to five starters total,
Speaker 1: and with a at least two to three in the secondary.
Speaker 2: That's worrisome against the wab Oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and just losing arguably one of your best players.
Speaker 3: I mean, mirk Evans. I agree with Kyle Brantz take
Speaker 3: the He's probably one of the best bucks to ever
Speaker 3: wear a buccaneer, you know. But Antoine Winfield Junior at
Speaker 3: this point is one of the better defenders in the
Speaker 3: entire NFL. That makes sense. But again, like we all agree,
Speaker 3: seven points, it feels feels like a lot. I do
Speaker 3: like the emergence where Jamis and Williams has felt like, yeah,
Speaker 3: window dressing, like decoration in this offense, and now he's
Speaker 3: like a part of the foundation of the house where
Speaker 3: he gets all these targets. He had the stopping go
Speaker 3: on tre Davius White for the for the touchdown, he
Speaker 3: gets hurt, comes back in the game, kind of guts
Speaker 3: it out and gets a game ball. I like what
Speaker 3: I see there, But I'm gonna need Jared to be
Speaker 3: a little more comfortable in the pocket. He seemed like
Speaker 3: the Rams pass rush was bothering him through stretches of
Speaker 3: that game and had some inaccuracies that I wasn't used
Speaker 3: to seeing from Jared Goff in the opener. But maybe
Speaker 3: week one we wiped that away and maybe they surpassed
Speaker 3: the seven points. Who knows.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: Now I'm suddenly thinking this matchup just he'll be protected better.
Speaker 1: I'm always worried about a team that, like they played
Speaker 1: poor one week, but they won Anyways, usually they play
Speaker 1: better than next week. Like maybe you get the A
Speaker 1: minus A version of the Lions this week, and you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to deal.
Speaker 4: With it and you're gonna see as fantastic as Dave
Speaker 4: Montgomery was in that open.
Speaker 3: I think Jimmy or Gibbs played bigger role in a
Speaker 3: game like this. Spectacular play. Love it. I'm looking forward
Speaker 3: to that matchup. Bringing us to our final game. The
Speaker 3: biggest number of the week nine points Steve Grief nine
Speaker 3: points the Las Vegas Raiders going into M and T
Speaker 3: Bank Stadium against Lamar Jackson, who was back at practice
Speaker 3: on Wednesday's. He sat out earlier in the week due
Speaker 3: to some soreness because he went super hard. We talked
Speaker 3: about four hundred combined yard against the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 3: Lamar's back and the Raiders again after getting gashed by
Speaker 3: former Raven JK. Dobbins, have to take on the King.
Speaker 4: Steve, Yeah, I'll be at this game on Sunday, but
Speaker 4: I'm I'm saying I'll be at the game.
Speaker 3: Well, let anybody know he's a million miler, multiple airlines.
Speaker 4: But this number actually doesn't look contained to me, just
Speaker 4: because the Ravens have so many things they can clean
Speaker 4: up on defense. Again, they really got out schemed and
Speaker 4: not coach, and they're gonna tighten it up. You know,
Speaker 4: with some of the matchups that did Andy Reeves scheming
Speaker 4: up against their linebackers, and Las Vegas just doesn't have
Speaker 4: the guys right. They've got Davonte, but other than that, offensively,
Speaker 4: there's no one you have. The two tight end stuff
Speaker 4: to the Ravens aren't familiar with two tight end stuff.
Speaker 3: I would work with that. I mean, that's all they.
Speaker 2: Rock powers look good.
Speaker 4: Look but I'm just saying that's all. They run, two
Speaker 4: tight end stuff. They know they're going to practice the
Speaker 4: hell out of this. They're gonna have some answers for
Speaker 4: the two tight end stuff that the Ravens that the
Speaker 4: Raiders are going to do. So, you know, IA think
Speaker 4: Baltimore's defense is going to look so much better than
Speaker 4: this game. Lamar is not gonna have to do as much.
Speaker 4: They're gonna be able to run the ball a little
Speaker 4: bit better. With Dereck Henry. That's one thing that was
Speaker 4: driving me crazy in the game. I mean, it was
Speaker 4: a tight game and they just got they just got
Speaker 4: away from Derrick Henry. They start playing horizontal football.
Speaker 1: Well, I just think they're gonna figure out over the
Speaker 1: course of the season how to construct the running game
Speaker 1: out of Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry, and they haven't
Speaker 1: yet because that's you know, Derrick Henry just makes more
Speaker 1: sense of it as an under center runner, but Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson in shotgun and you can certainly they're smart, they're
Speaker 1: great players, they're good coaches. They can figure out how
Speaker 1: to marry it up up. But it felt like almost
Speaker 1: like two different types of offenses. And when Justice Hill
Speaker 1: was out there, that almost looked to me more like
Speaker 1: the Ravens offense.
Speaker 2: And I was surprised.
Speaker 1: And I know they were trailing in that game, but
Speaker 1: Justice Hill played a little more than Derrick Henry.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because they were throwing the ball around a little
Speaker 4: bit more. You know, two things. That's first off, that's
Speaker 4: a great point because I was talking to people before
Speaker 4: that game with the Chiefs and they said that shotgun
Speaker 4: style is different for Derrick Henry. We saw it when
Speaker 4: Deshaun Watson first went to Cleveland, they wanted to go
Speaker 4: under center. He's like, I want to go to Shotgun.
Speaker 4: It really was an odd marriage of what they wanted
Speaker 4: to do with the run game and also, and it
Speaker 4: got talked about a lot, maybe not enough, those illegal
Speaker 4: formation penalties that kept getting called on Ronnie Stanley. It
Speaker 4: really bothered Stanley in the offensive play, so maybe that
Speaker 4: it hampered their effectiveness.
Speaker 3: They're going to make up.
Speaker 4: I'm sure it's a point of emphasis for the Ravens
Speaker 4: this week to get it right, and I think that
Speaker 4: offensive line is gonna play better as a result.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think considering Max Crosby and the problems that
Speaker 3: he can create, we're gonna see more pistol this week
Speaker 3: from from Monkin, and it kind of gets halfway between
Speaker 3: those issues because we saw that in Tennessee sometimes where
Speaker 3: Tannehills and Shotgun and Derek Henry's getting these slow handoffs
Speaker 3: and at that point in his career he's making it work.
Speaker 3: He does need to be a little more uh linear
Speaker 3: up and down the field in order to get things
Speaker 3: going now, but it's I'm I'm not taking the Ravens
Speaker 3: to to cover this nine points.
Speaker 2: Wow, I just there's some things that you're mister raven
Speaker 2: I am.
Speaker 3: I've seen this team come in and have some some
Speaker 3: weird circumstances take place, and Gardner Minshew going into imman
Speaker 3: Ted Bank Stadium and having like a weird career game.
Speaker 2: This is some fans stuff.
Speaker 1: Usually Patrick's not giving the fans, but he's talking like
Speaker 1: almost like a Ravens fan.
Speaker 2: That's too skeptical. I saw.
Speaker 1: I'm not skeptical at all. I'm picking them as my
Speaker 1: Survivor pick. By the way, I don't know if we
Speaker 1: even are continuing this. Put play the music. Patrick took
Speaker 1: this Inincinnati Bengals last week. We only had the two
Speaker 1: of us in the studio at the time. I took
Speaker 1: the Bills, who made me sweat it out a little bit.
Speaker 1: They could have called that penalty on Deamar Hamlin at
Speaker 1: the end that I might have been out too. But
Speaker 1: the Bills survived and I'm taking the Ravens. I'm not
Speaker 1: overthinking it. When you play Survivor, don't overthink it. Because
Speaker 1: I was thinking Texans this week and I'm looking at
Speaker 1: future schedules. No, just take the game that would shock
Speaker 1: you the most. Take the real favorite, and I don't
Speaker 1: agree with you at all.
Speaker 2: I think it's twenty six to nine.
Speaker 1: It's kind of a boring game actually, where they just
Speaker 1: put him to sleep.
Speaker 2: And Steve, since you weren't here last week.
Speaker 3: I can't believe it, let him do a week two?
Speaker 2: Should we should we let let's ask the back? Should yeah?
Speaker 3: Eric?
Speaker 2: Should we let Steven and take a survivor pack?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Because I mean, this is a week season long bit
Speaker 1: that died in week one night happy? Would it be
Speaker 1: a funny bit if I'm just spiking the football for
Speaker 1: sixteen straight week? Because if you just ride with my picks,
Speaker 1: if you're listening out there, I'm gonna take you, uh
Speaker 1: to a whole lot of victory, a lot of us.
Speaker 1: We're gonna survive on the island. But I'll let you
Speaker 1: play too, Steve, you can jump in.
Speaker 3: He at the home. Okay, so we're going with Houston.
Speaker 2: Okay, play the music. We're letting Steve go in week dude?
Speaker 2: Why not? Sorry? Sorry Patrick to me about bending the rules.
Speaker 3: I deserve it. I'm out. Jeff Probes has extinguished Mark Flint.
Speaker 1: It was a blast going over all these games with
Speaker 1: you both.
Speaker 2: In Week two?
Speaker 1: Why don't we do it each and every week this season,
Speaker 1: except for when Steve goes and covers overseas.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I will be.
Speaker 1: You are a big time I'll join you for one
Speaker 1: of those. I really enjoyed doing it today. Yes, we're
Speaker 1: doing the Ravens for the Survivor, and then we're gonna
Speaker 1: be doing Thursday Night recap and my picks with Cynthia
Speaker 1: coming up later this week.
Speaker 2: We'll see then football's back.