1 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, presented by Draft Kings Sportsbook, where 2 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: we're finally sleeping. 3 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: Well because the heat wave is over in Los Angeles. 4 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 1: I feels so much better here in the Chris Westling 5 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 1: podcast studio where it's always cool, and I'm here with 6 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: the two of the coolest guys at NFL Network, Steve 7 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: Weish and Patrick Claybond. 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:29,319 Speaker 3: Well, we're trying to be cool. 9 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 4: I mean, it has cool down, but still half of 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 4: the county is on fire right now, and I've had 11 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 4: I've had to clarify to people because it's like you 12 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 4: say hot, and it's like, well, it's la hot. 13 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 3: There were a couple of days. Oh yeah, it was 14 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 3: just hot period, Like it would have been hot no 15 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 3: matter where. 16 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: I'm sleeping on couches downstairs, because yeah, my bedroom and 17 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: forget it, forget about it. 18 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 2: It's not happening. 19 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: So I feel good that it's finally over, and I 20 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,639 Speaker 1: feel good that we're here too. 21 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: Week two a fun week. 22 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: Steve, you were you were talking, I remember in the 23 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: newsroom last week, just Week ones. The ultimate liar. 24 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 3: It is. 25 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 4: It's a non true teller to some degree, like some 26 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 4: teams that's got smoked last week or didn't look good, 27 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 4: or they'll get it back, and some teams it came 28 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 4: out like Gangbusters. They'll settle back down to Earth and 29 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 4: then by week three that's when things will stabilize. I 30 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 4: mean a lot of guys didn't play in the preseason, 31 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 4: a lot of guys didn't have to go to the 32 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 4: headset operation and things like that, So these things will 33 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 4: be worked out. I don't think the Bengals are going 34 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 4: on seventeen, you know, so we'll figure some things out. 35 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: Yes, and this is the first time. If you have 36 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: you're checking in that Steve which is in the building 37 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: for the previous show, But we're going to be doing 38 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: this up to every week and that you might not 39 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 1: know Steve unless you listen. 40 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 2: Hopefully you did. 41 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: It was a great show that we're ordering the games 42 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: every week in order of the point spread. So the 43 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: closer it is, we're going to lead the show, which 44 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: means Patrick, we're probably the only show in the country 45 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: leading with Rams Cardinals. 46 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 3: Yes, and that's why we start with what the unknown is? Right. 47 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 3: We journey into the unknown with a divisional matchup in 48 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 3: the afternoon Sunday. The Rams favored by one and a 49 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 3: half points, excuse one point. Actually it's the Cardinals. I know. 50 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: I had to reread update. 51 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 3: I'm looking at the Arizona Cardinals, a one point home 52 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 3: favorite against the Rams. Both teams coming into h one 53 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 3: to one. Massive injury report for Los Angeles a Pookinakols 54 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 3: on our Steve Avilla, the lineman had a knee injury. 55 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 3: Joe Noteboom left the game with a high ankle sprain. 56 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 3: Other than that, miss Lincoln, how was the play? Greg 57 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 3: Is Maddie is nine enough to just go out there 58 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 3: throw doms and beat the Cardinals? 59 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 2: I don't know. It's last week. 60 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: It was one of those weeks where McVeigh and Stafford 61 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: both in Cooper Cup ROAs to the moment so well, 62 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: but then when you don't get a W in that spot, 63 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: like can they do it again? Because the Cardinals don't 64 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: have much of a pass rush, so this is the 65 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: right team and situation for the Rams to maybe get 66 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: a W. But a Curry at left tackle did not 67 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: look like an NFL player. McLendon at right tackle did 68 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: not look like an NFL player. You have a new 69 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: guy at center, so we'll see how he works out. 70 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: Haven Stein, We're not sure if he's going to play, 71 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: but he isn't expected to practice early in the week, 72 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,119 Speaker 1: so they could be missing four of their starting offensive 73 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: linemen and without Pooka Nakua. Yeah, it's all about Cooper 74 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: Cup Like can Cooper Cup handle this sort of load? 75 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: The Cardos did have maybe the. 76 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: Worst defense in the league last year, and we're one 77 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: of the worst or the worst in Week one. So 78 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: if maybe this is a good time to play the 79 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: Rams because mcvay's owned this matchup Steve at least last year. 80 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: They won this game by a combined forty points in 81 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: the two matchup. 82 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 4: But historically they have not played great defensively against Kyler Murray. 83 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 4: He's had some really nice games against the Rams. 84 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 3: The thing is. 85 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison only three targets, I mean only one catch. 86 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 4: They've got to figure something out. If they're gonna throw 87 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 4: the ball and get it. Oh that guy James Connor, 88 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 4: I mean that's one. Then they're gonna have to run 89 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 4: the football without Kyler. I mean Connor's gonna have to 90 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 4: get his hands on the ball a lot. I think 91 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 4: this Rams defense showed itself some but then showed it 92 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 4: some week. This is some, but it gets a very 93 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 4: good Lions team. But I want to get back to 94 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 4: the Rams offense. Matthew Stafford thrown the ball forty nine 95 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 4: times last week. I mean the Lions have a good front, 96 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 4: they don't have a great front. He can't be throwing 97 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 4: the ball forty nine times a game and the Rams 98 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 4: have a shot. So they've got to find a way. 99 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 3: To run it. 100 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 4: They didn't really try to run it. They kind of 101 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 4: got back into that rut. They've got to try to 102 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 4: establish a run against Arizona. Otherwise this clock game, James Connor, 103 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 4: you just saw them. It could be very interesting. 104 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 3: There's a style issue for the Arizona Cardinals, as they 105 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 3: allowed the worst EPA in the league per dropback when 106 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 3: their opponents used motion. And so here comes Sean McVay. Yeah, 107 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 3: and again they're going to see them twice a year. 108 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 3: But there is one like there's a quote alert out 109 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 3: there that Kyler's being taken out of context because like 110 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 3: the quote graphic that's being used is like, it's not 111 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 3: my job to get Marvin Harrison the ball. But the 112 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 3: way Kyler said it is, I'm going through progressions. I'm 113 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 3: not out there to just get balls to Marvin Harrison, 114 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 3: and he missed him late in the game. But ultimately 115 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 3: that's not a fair quote to Kyler. It's kind of 116 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 3: being taken out of context. I'm the Rams defensive line 117 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 3: is the spot for me because that first start for 118 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 3: Jared Verse, he had twenty six point one percent pressure 119 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 3: rate the force highest by a rookie, and he's a 120 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 3: monster of all time. And that's it. Like it's like, well, 121 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 3: what are we gonna how are we going to replace? 122 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 3: So they've got all that youth on the defensive line. Yeah, 123 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 3: they lose one of the best football players we've all 124 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 3: ever seen, but they get good that aspect. I can't 125 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 3: say the same for like Cardinals defenders. Like now, the 126 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 3: Cardinal defender, I'm hanging my hat on right now. 127 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 2: That's like Buddha Baker. 128 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: They're okay at linebacker Kaisier White, but you're right, they 129 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: just they don't have the defensive line. So this might 130 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: be a perfect manage the season. I think about the 131 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: how long the season is, and the Rams have the 132 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,119 Speaker 1: forty nine ers next week, you're missing four offensive linemen 133 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: this week. You get your left tackle back. Next week, 134 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: Eric Jackson will be off his suspension. You might get 135 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: haven steinback and so it's a manage the season type 136 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: of game. 137 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 2: Can you sneak out a road win in the division. 138 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: You mentioned how good Verse has been and and like 139 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: now you're playing a tough Arizona running game though, and 140 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: that was how you lost last week. 141 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 2: The Lions ran through you at the end. 142 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: And the way Kyler was running last week, I mean, 143 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: he has got that wiggle back. James Connor is awesome. 144 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: They have a nice backup in Trey Benson, and they 145 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: throw a lot at you. So to me, that's kind 146 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: of the key matchup. Can they Can they stop the 147 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: Cardinals running game and just just escape with the win? 148 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: And you mentioned Harrison just to close on him. His 149 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: max speed per next Sensetat's was like insanely low, which I. 150 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: Don't know how much to put into that. 151 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: That was just something I saw, but like, I don't know, 152 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: maybe he wasn't going downfield, maybe he was thinking too much. 153 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 2: He just he didn't have a great week. 154 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 3: There were some covered shades which I think probably played 155 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 3: into Kyler not necessarily getting back to him towards it, 156 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 3: and again with him being open. Of course, the broadcast 157 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 3: is showing him doing jumping dracks, but Kyler would have 158 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 3: had the three sixty spin no scope like throw one 159 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 3: kind of no look to get him to that in 160 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 3: that point. And that's where like still frames can kind 161 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 3: of be misleading. He was open, but it's not always 162 00:06:58,560 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 3: that ea. 163 00:06:59,080 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: I know. 164 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: I do my pick again to spread with Cynthia later 165 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: in the week, but Rams as an underdog against the 166 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: Cardinals is pretty tempty. 167 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 3: That is, that's a real tempting play right there. You 168 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 3: may not be alone in that one. Yeah, we do 169 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 3: our game debut coming up here, shout out to that 170 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 3: particular show. Let's go to our next game here, and 171 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 3: that is a one and a half point home favorite 172 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 3: Washington Commander's team. Another set of zero to one divisional 173 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 3: foes in week two, the Giants visiting the Commanders. Jayde 174 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 3: Daniels plays in front of his hometime home crowd for 175 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 3: the first time. Steve the defense didn't do him a 176 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 3: ton of favors of the first time out. Baker Mayfield 177 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 3: had one of the best games of his career touchdowns. 178 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 3: Can they do enough to get Jaden to win over 179 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 3: Dimes and Crew? Yes they can because Dimes. I mean, look, 180 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 3: I say this because my wife is Jamaicas. I'm not 181 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 3: trying to offend He's dimes in Jamaican money, which translated 182 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 3: to about negative one hundred in US currency. Look, I 183 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 3: just think that this is this is a game with 184 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 3: the commanders offensively. You know, you're not gonna have Jaden 185 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 3: Danis run the ball sixteen times. You just cannot do 186 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 3: that every week like last week. But they're gonna run 187 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 3: the ball. 188 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 4: And so if they can get it going against this defense, 189 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 4: they're just gonna milk clock and milk clock. They will, 190 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 4: hopefully if you're a defensive coordinator Joe Witt, be able 191 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 4: to get Danny dimes in some long down and distances, 192 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 4: He's gonna cough a couple up to you. I just 193 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 4: the big story is gonna be like, this is only 194 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 4: week two, but this is a bigger. 195 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 3: Game for Daniel Jones. 196 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 4: Yes, then we think he cannot come out and play 197 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 4: like he did last week, that just will not. Then 198 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 4: the coaching staff is going to sense their vulnerability and 199 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 4: livelihoods and they will make a moveack quarterback change sometime soon. 200 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 4: As much as we thought they're a ride with him 201 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 4: for all seventeen for you know, everything they've done, they 202 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 4: will get desperate because they will sense the vultures coming 203 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 4: out and make a move. 204 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 3: If he comes out and stinks it up like he 205 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 3: did in Week. 206 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: One, I'm with you. 207 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: I think this could be Daniel Jones's last start as 208 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: wow a Giant. Now he's playing the right opponent that 209 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: their defense was lost last week. Commanders, it's not a 210 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: talented team overall, and so there's certainly a real scenario 211 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: Dariel Jones plays much better this week, the offense scores points. 212 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 1: But if he looks like he did last week because 213 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: he did not pass pass what I call like the 214 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: NFL QB test, people say it's like, oh, if you 215 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: protect him, he's solid. 216 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, that's true. 217 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: But that's true of every NFLQB who has a long career, 218 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: literally everyone. If you can deliver when protected, you'll have 219 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: a long career. Maybe it's a starter, maybe it's a 220 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: fringe starter, whatever it is. Last year, he actually last week, 221 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: actually he was protected pretty well in that game, and 222 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: there were ground balls, there were times where he held 223 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: it forever, and he looked a little gun shy on 224 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: short passes. He's always been a little gunshy on throwing 225 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: the long ones. Now he was gun shy and everything. 226 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: And I listened to this John Boy media show talking giants, 227 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: and they had a great insight. So I want to 228 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: give them credit. Where they were listening to the radio 229 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: and they're saying the radio call with Bob Papa and 230 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: all that those are team employees. They'd always been defending 231 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: Daniel Joe in the past, and in this time they're 232 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: kind of asking questions about Daniel just and usually the 233 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: radio guys don't start saying that unless the people above 234 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: maybe are saying that. And you do wonder organizationally, if 235 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: they're ready to just be like, hey, you're giving us 236 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: no choice. 237 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe we'll ride with Drew Locke soon if this continues. 238 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you're not safe in your own booths, 239 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 3: like like where where are you safe? And he's not 240 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 3: safe when the defense is playing zone, So the Vikings 241 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 3: played zone eighty six percent of his dropbacks. In Week one, 242 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 3: he was nineteen of thirty seven fo one hundred and 243 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 3: fifty yards and two interw The only quarterbacks worse than 244 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 3: that over the past couple of years were Zach Wilson 245 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 3: and Bryce Young. In a particular game, it's it's not 246 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 3: good for dimes only other side like I'm excited for 247 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 3: Jane Daniels. I know that Todd Bowles defense got a 248 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 3: whole lot of pressure on him. Right, he was one 249 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 3: of five against pressure, but that doesn't account for all 250 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 3: the times he ran away from the pressure right and 251 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 3: he was able to get positive games. In his very 252 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 3: first game, Brian Robinson Junior got tackled at the goal, 253 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 3: one McCaffrey got tackled at the goal on if you're 254 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 3: watching the video version of our show, and Jane Daniels 255 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 3: finished those off and it made it look easy. And 256 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 3: it's funny to see the juxtaposition of these two quarterbacks, 257 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 3: one on his way in and the other. You guys 258 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 3: said this might be the last shot. 259 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: And now I hear everything you're saying on Jayden and Daniels, 260 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 1: and he's an incredible runner. But our guys at next 261 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: time Stas noted he had the sixth highest scramble rate 262 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: in any game in the last three years of that game. 263 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: And you're right. Sometimes it was the pressure. I think 264 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: they coached them up. Maybe if it comes and you 265 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 1: don't see your first read open, just go. But there 266 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 1: were some times where he had pretty open receivers where 267 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: their first read looked like it was there and he 268 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 1: just wanted to run, and he got his helmet knocked 269 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: off a couple of times, so you got to be 270 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: careful there. And he's a fantastic runner, but he missed 271 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: a couple throws and he missed seeing a couple, so 272 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: they had a couple. 273 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 2: They had plenty of design runs. 274 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,359 Speaker 1: But I think they would love it if he scrambled 275 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: a little less. 276 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 3: Well. 277 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 4: I mean, look, he's really and I'm just bit a 278 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 4: real here. He plays for Cliff Kingsbury. He is going 279 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 4: to be scrambling. You've heard me say hit Oh, ask 280 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 4: Kyler Murray, as ask Caleb Williams. 281 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 3: Right. 282 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 4: USC's offensive line hasn't looked nearly as terrible this year 283 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 4: as did last year. Cliff Kingsbury has a lot of 284 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 4: protections where he leaves his quarterback in situations you get 285 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 4: rid of it quick or to pull it down and 286 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 4: run it. And he's going to be facing Dexter Lawrence 287 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 4: and Caveon, Thibodeau and guys. 288 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: He needs to stand up. By the way, they were 289 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: very quiet last week. Burns and cava On that in 290 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: a tough matchup, this is the easier matchup. 291 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 2: They need to get. 292 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 4: Correct correct, much much better offensive line they played against 293 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 4: last week. 294 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 3: So yep, it's a crossroads for a couple of different 295 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 3: teams and a couple of different aspects. They're looking forward 296 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 3: to that one. In the NFC East, let us go 297 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 3: to what would have been, guys, the Russell Wilson revenge game. 298 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 3: The Denver Broncos playing host to the Pittsburgh Steelers, who 299 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 3: were on the road a two and a half point favorite. 300 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 3: Spirit Adidas out of Arceletta who had one of the 301 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 3: calls of the week and our friend Adidie Kinkawalla on 302 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 3: that call, Justin Fields announced as the starter. More Leeway, 303 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 3: there was some opportunity last week where they had a 304 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 3: package put in for Justin Fields. Turns out he's the 305 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 3: starting quarterback. Now he's going up against bow Nicks in 306 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 3: his second game, Greg more bow Knicks. 307 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 2: Let's go. 308 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: I took you know the Steelers that are a road 309 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: dog last week, they're not dopes this week. 310 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 2: They're going to make them the favorite. 311 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: I think the Steelers' role because I think now let's 312 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: just embrace Fields like life here. And they knew he 313 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: was going to start last week. I believe during the 314 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 1: week Russell Wilson, according to reports, isn't doing a ton 315 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: of practice on Wednesday, so it's not even like they 316 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: really have an option. He has a calf injury, and 317 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: it will be interesting to see how much Arthur Smith 318 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: embraces it, because there are strengths here with Justin Fields. 319 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: Number one, I believe him to be one of the 320 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: greatest running quarterbacks of all time in terms of his 321 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: instincts as a runner, in terms not just his power 322 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: but avoiding hits, making people miss like he is talented. 323 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: He's not always the most act you're on the short stuff, 324 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: but had some beautiful deeper throws last week to George Pickens. 325 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: He can throw to the outside and he did that, 326 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: and yeah, this is a fine matchup. I would say 327 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: it's a neutral matchup to me against the Broncos defense 328 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 1: that's average, and I think all you're gonna look for, 329 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: Steve is if the Steelers offense can be average, they're 330 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: happy because this is a defense first team, and maybe. 331 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 3: They could score a touchdown. 332 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 4: I mean, you're not gonna win week kicking sixth that helps, Yeah, 333 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 4: but you talked about it. I thought Justin Fields to 334 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 4: George Pickens, there is something there. There were some beautiful 335 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 4: throws and some amazing catches. Yeah, some of them came 336 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 4: on scrambles, real plays. That's how it's gonna be with 337 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 4: the Steelers offensively in the passing game. So now is 338 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 4: Denver gonna put Patrick Hirtan on George Pickens. Are we're 339 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 4: gonna see this great you know, one on one match 340 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 4: up with this incredible talent. I would, because I'm really 341 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 4: not fearing too much of the other receiving game. But 342 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 4: in watching a lot of that game, you were right, 343 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 4: Fields was inaccurate with some of his throws. 344 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 3: But I think as the. 345 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 4: Game wore on, even though they weren't getting the ball 346 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 4: the ends on, he was feeling something. There was something 347 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 4: working there. The offensive line had some things working. The 348 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 4: run game was popping. 349 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 3: They did. 350 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 2: He managed the game, made good decisions. 351 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 4: I thought so too. They just didn't get into the 352 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 4: end zone. And that's gonna be a problem. Remember, they're 353 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 4: they're trying, They're they're on the road, right, it's games 354 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 4: in Denver. They're they're gonna have to adjust. I just 355 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 4: think this is going to be an intriguing game. Some 356 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 4: big plays from the Steelers offense, and then if Sean 357 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 4: and if I'm sorry, if Arthur Smith and tom can 358 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 4: get it going, they'll run the ball in the second half. 359 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 3: But I think was he some big plays early. One 360 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 3: thing that I think Arthur Smith and Mike Tomain will 361 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 3: both be okay with if because Patrick ris witham gave 362 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 3: DK metcalf all kinds of problems. He's one of the 363 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 3: best corners. If not, you can make a case he's 364 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 3: the best up between him and Sauce. But they'll be 365 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 3: perfectly fine with the Broncos defenders turning their backs and 366 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 3: running away from Justin Fields. If you guys want to 367 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 3: play man, I think they will be great. Great point, 368 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 3: comfortable with a great point considering his prediction. As you mentioned, 369 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 3: Greg one of the best to ever do it when 370 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 3: he's out in space. Now, when we saw the Falcons 371 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 3: Fields did take a couple of shots where they're running 372 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 3: quarterback runs, designed quarterback run, and he's just powered it 373 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 3: in he had with absolutely nobody in front of him. 374 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 3: We don't want to see that, it's true, But considering 375 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 3: what their defense did and how the Broncos really struggled 376 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 3: in protection against the Seahawks in Week one, I'm looking 377 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 3: at TJ Watt's potential to just, oh my gosh, TJ. 378 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 2: Watt wants that Defensive Player of the Year. He wants it. 379 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: He was insane and Seattle showed how to beat Denver. 380 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: They were all over Bonnicks like they got a lot 381 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: of pressure and they just dared him to throw. 382 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 2: They just said, we dare you to go. 383 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna single you up, We're dare you to go 384 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: more than ten yards. We think our guys can cover 385 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: your guys. I think Pittsburgh can do that too, because 386 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: I just I just think this defensive front can be special. 387 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: I think it might be top three defensive front in 388 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: the entire league. And Garrett Bowles was banged up in 389 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: that game, unsure if he's playing, I guess what he 390 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: does because he never missed his game, but he didn't 391 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: play well last week because he was playing through an injury, 392 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: and so that that's something to watch. And bo Nicks 393 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: just he's not gonna have answers if he's under that sit. 394 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 4: I will say this to Falcons of their blocking scheme, 395 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 4: that was like what are they doing? Like did they 396 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 4: realize who they're playing against? 397 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 3: What? 398 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? 399 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was absolutely crazy. You think Sean 400 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 4: Payton would be a little wiser to that. So there's 401 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 4: gonna be a lot of quick game stuff like there was. 402 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 4: I mean, bon Nicks only threw a four hundred times 403 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 4: for oh, you know, twenty two yards. 404 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: There was a stat he threw it more than forty 405 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: times and had less yards in the game than anyone was. 406 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: It was like the top four in NFL history. I 407 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: think it was Jesse Palmer. There was an old like 408 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger in his last season in like a Rainstorm. 409 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: I kind of remember that game too, And there was one. 410 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: There was one other and that was it with with 411 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 1: Bow last week. 412 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 3: That was the meme game where it was it was 413 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 3: fourth in me in like seven and Ben throws this 414 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 3: flare out to Nase and the entire defense is standing 415 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 3: within three yards of him. There's a shot of nause 416 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 3: in half of the other team. He did eclipse in 417 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 3: terms of yards per attempt one player last week, and 418 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 3: that's Caleb Williams by one tenth of a yard. If 419 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 3: Keenan Allen catches that ball in the gola and then 420 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 3: then o Nicks would have But it was it was 421 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 3: a rough and every one of their offensive lineman gave 422 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 3: up multiple pressures as well. It was a rough Patrick. 423 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 3: So both you guys. 424 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 4: If Justin Fields comes out and plays even as well 425 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 4: as even as adequately as he played in week one, 426 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 4: maybe a little bit. 427 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 3: Better, is he the guy? To me, there's no more conversations. 428 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: No more as long as they that'll get them to 429 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: two and zero on the road, as long as they 430 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: have a winning record. 431 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 2: Tomlin is not going back and both road games now. 432 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 3: I ja. 433 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 2: By the way, speaking of look good, I. 434 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 3: Think look very good. He appeared liberated in author Smith's 435 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 3: offense and the Steelers. 436 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 4: Cordial Patterson's gonna take his touches up. Man, Arthur Smith 437 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 4: can't help himself. You can't have too much cordial Patterson. 438 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 3: In the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty four, Let's 439 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 3: go to Douveall for our next game, that is the 440 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns, a three point dog on the road at Jacksonville, 441 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 3: where Trevor Lawrence had a cryptic it's time for change 442 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 3: tweet this week with like multiple shots of his head. 443 00:18:58,320 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't see it. 444 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 3: I don't know if Trevor Lawrence is gonna cut his hair. 445 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 3: That's that's kind of the leading things. But the Jags. 446 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 2: Oh, I thought he was talking about the front office there. 447 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 3: Oh no, just it's like Trent Trent's super saying because 448 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 3: the Jags retweeted it. So the Cleveland Brown struggled on 449 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 3: offense against Michael Parson and the Cowboys. Now here comes 450 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 3: Joshua hans Allen and trey Von Walker, who played pretty well. Gris, Yes, 451 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 3: what do you see taking play? Yeah? You know. 452 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: Traywan Walker rewatching the game was outstanding in the running game. 453 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: He also got a couple of sacks in that game. 454 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,239 Speaker 1: But he is becoming an elite run defender and that 455 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: to me is huge because you're going up against a 456 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: team that doesn't have much of a pass game until 457 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: proven otherwise in Cleveland and wants to run the ball. 458 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: They did a lot of creative stuff and people think 459 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson was making excuses that well except for three 460 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: plays we had the Dolphins locked down. But watching that game, 461 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 1: I kind of agree with them, like they did some 462 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 1: creative things on defense. This is not the Dolphins they're 463 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: playing against, and Doug Peterson and this Jaguar seemed desperately 464 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: need to win because the way last season ended, and 465 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: then to start this season, blowing a big lead like that. 466 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: He was extremely testy. 467 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, Monday's press conference, and this is 468 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: just a team, really, two teams, but especially the Jaguars 469 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: that desperately just need to get a win and to 470 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: relax a little bit. 471 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 4: You know, Look the Browns, we don't know either tackle 472 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 4: is going to be back this week. So you talk 473 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 4: about the pressure coming on DeShawn, they looked and I 474 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 4: think the joke, who is nicked? Right, So what's gonna happen? Okay, 475 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 4: a lot of Mari Cooper. They tried doing it last week. 476 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 4: They just couldn't do it consistently. Now Dallas was giving 477 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 4: them fits. Mike Zimmer came out and gave them a 478 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 4: lot of different looks, gave them pressures with four There's 479 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 4: just no flow to this offense. And again that's why 480 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 4: week one will it be the ultimate non truth teller, 481 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 4: As I say, comes to the Browns, We'll see, but 482 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 4: I just you know they're all the talking from last 483 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 4: year to Shaun Watson did not on schedule running of 484 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 4: this offense. It's got to be better this week because 485 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 4: I think Actonville is going to be a problem. I 486 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 4: think their offense is gonna get going. We know they 487 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 4: could points on the board, but I think defensively they 488 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 4: could be a thorn for the Browns. And what did 489 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 4: I say, I've said it on the show. No player 490 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 4: is under greater pressure entering the season than Deshaun Watson, 491 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 4: and with all the noise around him again this week, 492 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 4: the pressure is only going up ten million more degrees. 493 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And that pressure should you know, honestly never 494 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 3: go away considering the scope and the scale of the 495 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,479 Speaker 3: things that took place back in twenty twenty. But the 496 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 3: actual pressure that the Jags will apply, considering what how 497 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 3: Deshaun looked bouncing up and down in the pocket coming 498 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 3: off roots, making bad throws to Amari Cooper. That actual 499 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 3: tax trouble is going to be a little more of 500 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 3: a problem. Football field was because James Hudson allowed eight 501 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 3: pressures on fifty six pass blocking snaps in Week one 502 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 3: where the Browns had all this trouble, and now he's 503 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 3: going to deal with Joshua hans Allen who kind of 504 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 3: got locked up by toront Armstead. But it's still going 505 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 3: to be even more of an issue. And we also 506 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 3: get a sneaky, a little bit of a sneaky coaching 507 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 3: heat and oh wait, Jim Schwartz and Doug Peterson going 508 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 3: back at it. Yeah, back and things were good, you know, 509 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 3: they celebrated together, but also there were some concerns the 510 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 3: end of the exit there in Philadelpia. 511 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 2: I like that. 512 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 3: I like that too. 513 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 4: But but speaking of this, I mean, Cleveland defense is 514 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 4: not going to make it easy on Trevor Lawrence either. 515 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 3: Let's let's let's not overlook that. 516 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: I felt good about Trevor's performance. There is more under 517 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: center stuff. They had a good run game. Tank Bigsby 518 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: uh popped in that game. There was a couple of 519 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: drops by Kirk that would have really changed it. I 520 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: think Brian Thomas Junior is fantastic. One that he had 521 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: a stat the highest EPA per route of any rookie 522 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: wide receiver in the last X amount of years, like 523 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: he was. He just he passes the eye test. So 524 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: I feel better about their offense. And yeah, you talk pressure, 525 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: just to wrap up Watson and then we'll take a break. 526 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: On Wednesday, Stefanski did confirm because they hadn't spoken up 527 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: other than a brief statement that they're going to listen 528 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: to the NFL about how the NFL handles this, They 529 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: said they will start Deshaun Watson on Wednesday. That's not 530 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: a question. And Deshaun Watson did meet with the media. 531 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: He didn't really say much about the allegations, although he 532 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: said that they were news to him, and that was 533 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: counteracted by a long statement by the lawyer who represents 534 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: the woman suing Deshaun Watson, saying that actually, this has 535 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: been going on for ten months and they tried to 536 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: reach a settlement separately, so because they knew all the 537 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: media attention that would happen. And yes, the Deshaun Watson 538 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 1: and his lawyer strongly denies those allegations, which are brutal 539 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: to read. And yeah, the alleged victims attorney Tony Busby, 540 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: put a lot of that out there today. So let's 541 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 1: take a quick break and we will back with more 542 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: games after this, back on NFL Daily. So excited about 543 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: the Rosenthal ball. That's it, Seahawks Patriots. Yeah, back in 544 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: the old round the NFL days, We're going to we 545 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: drafted the games. This would have been my number one 546 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: overall draft pick for the entire season, and I love 547 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 1: that Kenny Albert and Jonathan Vilma are on it. I 548 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: love Vilma's energy. To me, he is the perfect guy 549 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: for this game. 550 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, the perfect for the battle of the heart and 551 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 3: soul of Greg Rosenthal. Because the Seahawks three and a 552 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 3: half point favorites on the road at New England, where 553 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 3: the Seahawks made the type of mistakes that the Bengals 554 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 3: did against the Patriots, but Seattle managed to win. Now 555 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 3: it's are they gonna do the same type of thing? 556 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 3: They allowed two safeties in the first half against the 557 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 3: Denver Bronx, just a calamity of errors, but they managed 558 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,239 Speaker 3: to find a way to win. And here comes New 559 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 3: England where we're getting Christian Gonzalez back. 560 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 2: He looks good. 561 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 3: It's a solid it's a solid, solid opportunity. Can they 562 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 3: get to Andino though. 563 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 4: Steve, Well, okay, this is where I'm going to play 564 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 4: the West Coast, the West Coast, early coast. Yeah, you 565 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 4: can always get the two and oh but remember I 566 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 4: said Week one is the great non truth teller. And yes, 567 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 4: New England Pageots should be Kobe pid sky high for 568 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 4: what they did to the Bengals. The anyone out to 569 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 4: put it on them, I mean they out physicaled them. 570 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 4: I think they out coached. 571 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 3: Them, So. 572 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 4: This I just but you know, Greg, the Seahawks are 573 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 4: my that's my team. No one's talking about that. I'm 574 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 4: very high on it. Okay, I know you love Gino. 575 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 4: This is just one where I think their ground game, 576 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 4: we saw Kenneth Walker, we saw them come out and 577 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 4: they rushed for a bunch of yards I think one 578 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 4: hundred and eighty plus yards last week. 579 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 3: I think that continues this week. 580 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 4: I think they'll be able to go there, control the clock, 581 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 4: get things going against a Page's defense that is underrated. 582 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 4: I don't think people are gonna sleep on it for 583 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 4: too much longer. I think it's going to continue to 584 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 4: play well. But I just think this week Seattle, with 585 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 4: its ability to run, set up to play action the 586 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 4: way Tyler Lockett looked last week, it's going to open 587 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 4: up the field from the other guys. I just think 588 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 4: Seattle's offense is to start getting going. 589 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 590 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: Look, if I had to pick the game, that three 591 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 1: and a half sounds about right. I think the Seahawks 592 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: are a favorite, but it wouldn't shock me if the 593 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: Patriots won this game. Because of what you said about 594 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: the defense, So what they have, I think most teams 595 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: don't have is a great combination of continuity and experience, 596 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: but not aged experience. If you look at kind of 597 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 1: all the guys on their team, it's it's Dugger. It's 598 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 1: some second year players like Gonzalez who was great last week. 599 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 2: Now you may maybe travel them. I mean he traveled 600 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 2: around last. 601 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: Week with Chase and will he do it again with 602 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: DK that that would be fascinating and Keon White. So 603 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: some young players, but other guys who've just been in 604 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: the system, not superstars, but Anthony Jennings in the prime 605 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: of his career, Joan Bentley in the prime of his career, 606 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: Jilani Tavai has played great ball for them, Kyle Dugger 607 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: in the prime of his career. 608 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 2: So okay, it's not a new system either. 609 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: Gerard Mayo was running this defense already and so Marcus Joes. 610 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 2: They just play well together. Jabrill Peppers. 611 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: There's a cohesion and an aggression that takes me back 612 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: to like that two thousand in one days that that's 613 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: their recipe if they're not going to turn into a 614 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion. But what they'll try to do and 615 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: we'll see if they can, is just not be sloppy, 616 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 1: not beat themselves on offense and see if the other 617 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 1: team can make enough mistakes to scrape out. 618 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 2: A bunch of wins. 619 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: Because Bill Belichick's teams, he doesn't like to talk about it. 620 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 2: Last few years, they were making all sorts of mistakes. 621 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: They were terrible on special teams, a ton of penalties 622 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: like mental errors. 623 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 2: You didn't see that in week one. 624 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: So that's that's the promise, because we know the offense 625 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: isn't going to be explosive. 626 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 3: And that's the difference right between the early era Belichick 627 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 3: teams and the late era teams where things got late 628 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 3: and it kind of started to feel like, all, well, 629 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 3: Bill will figure it out. We don't necessarily need this 630 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 3: mid vet guy. He can go somewhere else and make 631 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 3: his money. And then incomes rookies and things are disjoined. 632 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 3: Matt Patricia's leaving, coming back to Josh ll Daniels, leaven 633 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 3: coming back. It's all but now there's actual real continuity 634 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 3: among the unit. On the secondary, it was twenty twenty 635 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 3: eight routes for Gonzales lined up against Jamark It's fun wow. 636 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 3: Three catches for fifteen yards against Jamar's and again Jamar's 637 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 3: missed up. But it's still Jamar Chase. I don't think 638 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 3: he forgot how to get opens. 639 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 2: It was a great it's exciting. 640 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 4: But if he travels this week, does he travel DK 641 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 4: or do they or did he float him? 642 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:12,199 Speaker 3: Right? 643 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 4: Because he can travel DK part of the time, he 644 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 4: can travel with Jack Smith and jigg with some times. 645 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 3: There's ways to do that. And you talk about the 646 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 3: continuity doing this, but let's also keep. 647 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 4: It real because you over the over runner here is 648 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 4: thirty seven point five, Greg, You make. 649 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 2: That out perfect? 650 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, making how the over runners should be six? 651 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 4: Right, you're you know, you talk about the safetiest You're 652 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 4: talking about a three to two ball game with the 653 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 4: way you're you know, you're really excited about this value. 654 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just saying they can be like a top 655 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: eight defense. Ultimately, it's an offensive league. But the Seahawks 656 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: offensive line certainly struggled early in that game, and they 657 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: figured it out and they were awesome in the second half. 658 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: The offense was it is tough to cover up these 659 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: three receivers. Kenneth Walker is awesome. I do think that's 660 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: why they probably lose because unlike the Seahawks, like the 661 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: Seahawks have both sides of the ball. 662 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 2: You have to be pretty well to say we haven't 663 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 2: talked about their d. 664 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: Right, you could be pretty excited about their new They 665 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: talked about how they were going to play, and they 666 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: were great tackling, flying around. 667 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: They look disciplined. 668 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: So all the good things I said about the Patriots, 669 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: the Seahawks have that on defense more or less two 670 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: and they have a lot more explosive playmakers and everyone, 671 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: like even Drod Maya was like, you guys overreacted about 672 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: the offensive line. I said, it was gonna be fine. 673 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: I they gave up the second most amount of pressures 674 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: in terms of dropbacks in the NFL last year. Jacobe 675 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: Prisett and the offense barely moved the ball through the air. 676 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: And as much as I'd like to give credit to 677 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: the offensive right Ramandy Stevenson broke like twelve tackles, it 678 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: was more just that he it. 679 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 2: Was awesome in that game. It's gonna be tough to 680 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 2: do everything well. 681 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 3: When they added an offensive lineman, when they had six 682 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,959 Speaker 3: offensive linemen, they averaged four yards to play and they 683 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 3: scored their only touchdown of the game. So that's it. 684 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 3: That's how you get that three to two games deep. 685 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 2: Six offensive lineman. Yeah. 686 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: They it seemed like they were doing that like every 687 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: other play, which is that's. 688 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 3: All smart coaching. That's smart coaching. All right, we'll leave 689 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 3: that game and get to the Indianapolis Colts on the road. 690 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 3: A three and a half point favorite for the Green 691 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 3: Bay Packers, who were loveless for now we think, and 692 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 3: that's a big factor. The over under seid at forty 693 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 3: and a half points. Josh Jacobs had his best game 694 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 3: last week in terms of yards over expectation since he 695 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 3: led the league in rushing back in twenty twenty two. 696 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 3: And now he's going up against the Colts team that 697 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 3: gave a career day to Joe Mixon and the opener 698 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 3: Gregor he and Malik Willis enough. 699 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 2: I think they have a chance. 700 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: I think that Matt Lafleur has a chance here to 701 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: really flex his coaching muscles because you think about what 702 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: they did well last week. They ran the ball great, 703 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: the two plus twenty run, twenty yard plus runs like 704 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: he had three all of last year. Can you build 705 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: a running game around Jacobs? Emmanuel Wilson look good as 706 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: a backup, and Malik Willis as a part of the 707 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: run game. I think it would be a fun challenge 708 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: for Lafleur to do. And then you look at this 709 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: Colts defense. They really struggled against the run last week. 710 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: The Texans really ran them over. So this is it's 711 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: a different Packers setup. Normally you would say like they 712 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: have great receiver depth in the they just lost Juju 713 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: Brents and they don't have many good cornerbacks. 714 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 2: I don't know if you can really take advantage of 715 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 2: this game. 716 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: This is one where you see if you can have 717 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: the luck the Texans did on the ground against them. 718 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that they're gonna have to because Gus 719 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 4: Bradley's gonna be giving Malik Willis all kind of different looks, 720 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 4: even if he only ends up rushing for and things 721 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 4: like that. They're gonna see a lot of different stuff 722 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,719 Speaker 4: they didn't see against the Eagles. I'm with you, though, 723 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 4: I thought the Packers' offensive line played fairly well in 724 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 4: this game. 725 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 3: I thought they protected fairly well. I thought they ran 726 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 3: blocked fairly well. 727 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 4: The game circumstance was just odd with those guys being 728 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 4: in Brazil, and I like the fact that Matt Lafleur 729 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 4: came out and I was expecting to get a pass 730 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 4: rush from our defense. I was expecting a lot more 731 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 4: from certain things of our offense. 732 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 3: So he was dis paid clearly. 733 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 4: After the game, especially with the way things went on defense. 734 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 3: This is but even with some of the pressures. 735 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 4: That they generated in that game against the Eagles, Anthony 736 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 4: Richardson's a different monster. 737 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 3: And we saw that last year. 738 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 4: He wasn't great passing, but the way he ran the 739 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 4: ball because they didn't have a run game otherwise, This 740 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 4: to me, when I look at this has got the 741 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 4: intrigue bubble okay like no other game, just because there's 742 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 4: still a ton of unknowns about both teams. You know, 743 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 4: the Malik Willis one being the most but still the Colts, 744 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 4: what exactly are they that might that might still take 745 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 4: a minute to figure out. 746 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 3: And I think the thing that we know and the 747 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 3: most unique thing about Anthony Richardson because we comp right, 748 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 3: people make the cam comp and I think the cam 749 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 3: comp is actually Josh Allen. But the way that because 750 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 3: we see Anthony Richardson run over Jalen Petrie in the 751 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 3: end zone, but it's always the first defender to me, 752 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 3: the guy that comes up out of the secondary that 753 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson generally just disregards oh yeah, you're he never 754 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 3: affects that first movement from Anthony Richardson. He's able to 755 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 3: get around that guy almost every single time. I haven't 756 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,239 Speaker 3: seen anybody get him out on the edge. And when 757 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 3: I and I think about the problems that Jalen Hurts 758 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 3: created on the wet field in Brazil against this team, 759 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 3: it's it's tough for me to see because I know 760 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 3: that they've had a lot of Jeff Afley's done a 761 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 3: lot of changes. Xavier McKinney's a great pickup, but just 762 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 3: to stop Anthony Richardson consistently enough. When Malik Willis has 763 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 3: never had a player have over fifty receiving yards in 764 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 3: a game, and that he started, it's just tough for 765 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 3: me to imagine a circumstance where, you know, all credit 766 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 3: to Matt Lafleur that he's able to scheme something up 767 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 3: that's going to overcome. Right. 768 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: I mentioned managing the season. Now that the Packers really 769 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: managing this very tough spot. Man, if they can just scrape, 770 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: they can get one of these two next games. They 771 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: have the Colts this week, you know, in Green Bay, 772 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: and then they're at Tennessee next week. Just getting finding 773 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: one win somewhere here would be so big. But I'm 774 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: with you, I would take the Colts. The Colts front 775 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: is no joke. They can get after it when they 776 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: do pass the ball, and the Packers defense was disappointing 777 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: that that is kind of why I don't lean on 778 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: a potential. 779 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 3: Upset here and all the things that we're saying about 780 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 3: Brian Thomas Jr. If if Richardson's able to hit Ady 781 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 3: Mitchell on a couple of those balls, we're saying all 782 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 3: those Thames about ad Mitchell, and I think they may 783 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,959 Speaker 3: connect in this one plenty opportunity. Looking forward to that game, 784 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 3: maybe Malik Willis comes out and shocks the world, and 785 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 3: I'd be on the happiest part. 786 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 4: They gotta do it early on the fifteenth places that 787 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 4: they're statuscripted get him early. 788 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 3: From there, we go to the New York Jets visiting 789 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 3: the Tennessee Titans, who are a three and a half 790 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 3: point dog at home against Aaron Rodgers and the Jets 791 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 3: will Levis vowing to play better after a turnover laid 792 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 3: in the second a half, do them the Titans and 793 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 3: the opener of their defense limited Kayleb Williams and the 794 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 3: Bears to under one hundred and fifty yards were very impressive. 795 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 3: Can we'll let us keep away from those mistakes against 796 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:38,919 Speaker 3: the Jets defense. 797 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 4: We'll see, because I thought the Jets defense was a 798 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 4: major problem. 799 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 3: You know, in the game against the Niners. 800 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, the Niners this and that, but when you got 801 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 4: Jordan Mason coming out and gashing you like he's Walter Payton, right, 802 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 4: they were poor against the run. 803 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 3: Rock Purty to me, was rarely under pressure. 804 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 4: I think, you know, the look, the Jets are going 805 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 4: to be better, but coming off the short week, I'm 806 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 4: just not sure defensively if they're going to be great. 807 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 4: Yet this is an opportunity to get get to get better. 808 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 4: I just something just did not look right with the 809 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:19,240 Speaker 4: way they played defense. 810 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: Especially No I mean they were. 811 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 4: Going up, they were going up to the NFC champ, 812 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 4: but I mean their defensive front they got mopped up. 813 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 4: When you looked at every time they had a nice run, 814 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 4: used check, had someone locked up Kittle, had someone locked 815 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 4: up their interior guys, they had Velcrow on their jerseys. 816 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 4: And so again, I'm sure they're going to be hearing 817 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 4: about pad level and and everything when it comes to 818 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 4: this game because this should be a get right game 819 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 4: for them. But you know, Bill Callahan, that offensive line 820 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 4: coach for Tennessee, knows some things. So again, I'm not 821 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 4: sitting here saying that the Titans are going to go 822 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 4: up and down the field on them, but I think 823 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 4: there's an opportunity for Tennessee's offense to do some things correct. 824 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:03,760 Speaker 1: Interesting, Brian Callahan was not as optimistic as you talking 825 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: about his offense after the game. 826 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 5: I just we were playing so good on defense that 827 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 5: it's almost as if, I mean, if we just punted 828 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 5: it on first and ten every time, we might have 829 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:12,959 Speaker 5: won the game. 830 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 3: The way of the way that you know, we gave 831 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 3: it away. 832 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 4: So he's not that's so awesome. 833 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 2: That's that's the man that's not happy with this quarter. 834 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:20,879 Speaker 3: Right. 835 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 1: Here's the thing though, you mentioned Calahead. Actually I did 836 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 1: see the total difference. This was his dad, right, Yeah, 837 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: his dad innocent. I don't give both the lot credit. Uh, 838 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: the run game looks reborn. I mean, Tony Pollard had 839 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: a great week last week. They were top ten in 840 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: the league in terms of efficiency on the ground. This 841 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: was not a consistent running team last year, even with 842 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,359 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry. So I saw them kind of look like 843 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: a like a Callahan type of running game. You have 844 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: Taji Spears as the backup Pollard, but Pollard really looked 845 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: like he had a little more juice this year. And 846 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: that's cohesive and it's against that bad rush defense. The 847 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: problem is, yeah, you need will Lews to help you 848 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: do something. I think that was probably the worst game 849 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 1: of his career because not just the bad decisions, but 850 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 1: even when he hit a couple of plays, he just 851 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: was like really late. Maybe it was the t you know, 852 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: he was a Tennessee thing, and I'm remembering Jay Clor 853 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: even when Jay Cutler was good, like he would really 854 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 1: have to see it and for it to really be 855 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: open for him to just rip the ball. 856 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 2: And that was Will Levis last week. 857 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: He just did not feel like he was comfortable with 858 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: what he saw. DeAndre Hopkins only played seventeen snaps. Supposedly 859 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 1: he's practicing a little more. There was a miscommunication with 860 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley at the end of the game and he 861 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,919 Speaker 1: blew a block. Jaguars fans are like, oh, yeah, that's 862 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 1: a little familiar. So I always worry about a team 863 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 1: that doesn't have much of a passing game yet and 864 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: backing their chances to win. 865 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 3: I think it's a style thing and he's gonna have 866 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 3: to figure out how to marry his yolow deep shots 867 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 3: stock because I think over half of his career touchdowns 868 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 3: have come on bombs, and he got one. He got 869 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 3: away with one on that late pass to Chigokonkwo where 870 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 3: Conkwo goes up and gets the ball away from the defender. 871 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 3: If not for that, Will Levis has an even worse 872 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 3: game than the way things turned out, and so it's 873 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 3: he was one of four on deep passing attempts against 874 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 3: the Bears. One thing that I did have an eye 875 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 3: on for Tennessee was Jeffrey Simmons had no pressures. Now, 876 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 3: there was that shot of four Chicago Bears on Jeffery Simmony, 877 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 3: but he hasn't had a game like that since twenty two. 878 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,399 Speaker 3: We want to see ninety eight gig going. 879 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 1: It may have found something though with Tvandre Sweat, who 880 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,760 Speaker 1: was a divisive guy because of some off the field 881 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 1: issues in the draft and people just didn't think he 882 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: was that great of. 883 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,720 Speaker 2: A player because there was weight issues. 884 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: He looked like a problem, like he looked really good 885 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 1: last week. And then you know Lagerius, Steed and CHADOBEI 886 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: huse who didn't practice. I was banging this drum all camp. 887 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 1: They go out there and they look good and their 888 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: defense played great. So yeah, this is a little it's 889 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 1: a worrisome game for the jet. 890 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 4: And to get to the Jeffrey Simmons saying, when you 891 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 4: watch that Niners game, their interior players were resetting the 892 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 4: line of scrimmage over and over. Even one time towards 893 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 4: the end of the game with the Jets tried to 894 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 4: run on a short down and distance, they had tight end. 895 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 3: A full back leading behind a tackle and they got stacked. 896 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 2: They couldn't run at all. 897 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 3: It could not run the ball. 898 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 4: So this is this is something even with this revamped 899 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 4: offensive line didn't look very physical or didn't look very intimidating. 900 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: I'm looking at that three and a half for the 901 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: Titans for later the week. 902 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 3: He's got the Jets on fraud. Watch Jets on. 903 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,800 Speaker 4: Early early again a week one the great non truth teller. 904 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 4: But they're gonna hear a lot. It's gonna be a 905 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 4: tough film week for them. 906 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 2: Well, that's a big game. They can't go to no otherwise. 907 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 3: I haven't even played in met Life, the only team 908 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 3: of the division to lose. You guys know, things are 909 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 3: more important in the New York metropolitan so things may 910 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 3: be very, very different if the Jets don't. It's the 911 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 3: value is there? All right, guys, It's time for the 912 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,959 Speaker 3: Game of the Week presented by Draft Games. Let's get 913 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 3: into the rivalry game. It's it's always gonna be rough. 914 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 3: It's the Cincinnati Bengals at the Kansas City Chiefs, who 915 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,839 Speaker 3: are a five point favorite at home. Greg, I have 916 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 3: to think that has a lot to do with the 917 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 3: fact that the Bengals who lose in Week one, Oh yeah, Patriot, 918 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,840 Speaker 3: the Patriots under Zach Taylor lost to your pay. Should 919 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 3: they be concerned, Greg, going up against a team that 920 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 3: is giving them so much trouble and a quarterback in 921 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 3: a wide receiver who've done the same. Yeah. 922 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 2: I mean, look, they called it Burrowhead for a little bit. 923 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 2: They don't. They don't call it now. Maybe this is 924 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 2: what Joe Burrow needs. 925 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: I spoke about it with Jordan Rodriege and Colleen, like, 926 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 1: maybe he needs a game, to a big game to 927 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 1: make him feel alive, to get him out of these 928 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: early season dul drums. 929 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 2: He's always in. 930 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: You know, they showed him kind of flexing the wrist 931 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 1: that that is worrisome. I don't know if that's affecting 932 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: his play. It's too hard to guess. But the reason 933 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,399 Speaker 1: why I'm concerned is actually not the Bengals offense, which 934 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 1: I even if t Higgins doesn't come back, that's uncertain. 935 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 1: I just I have too much faith in Burrow that 936 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 1: they get it going. It's the matchup on the other 937 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 1: side of the ball. The guys are so open last 938 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 1: week for the Chiefs, they have extra rest coming into 939 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: this game. They have all this Rashi Rice on these 940 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: free releases, and now he's running slants. They're expanding kind 941 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: of what he does. He's they're an empty They were 942 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 1: really dictating against a really good Ravens defense the matchups 943 00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 1: that they wanted. And I was thinking, like, how how 944 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 1: is Patrick Mahomes the better when he's not as flashy, 945 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,360 Speaker 1: And to me, maybe it's because of just the pocket movement. 946 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: He's always been good, but now it's like you mentioned before, 947 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: how Richardson disregards the first guy. Mahomes is like that 948 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,760 Speaker 1: with every guy, except he's still throwing in the pocket. 949 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 1: And it's just incredible and he'll need that because he's 950 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 1: going up against Hendrickson in this group. 951 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 952 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 4: I was at that opener and it was such an 953 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 4: exhibition of great coaching by Andy Reid. He saw that 954 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,839 Speaker 4: the Ravens are leaving open the middle of the field. 955 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 4: He was matching up linebackers on his wide receivers. I mean, 956 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 4: you saw Roe Kwan Smith chasing Rashid Rice. I mean, 957 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,719 Speaker 4: they did some incredible things. I don't think lou Ana 958 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 4: Roumo is gonna put his linebackers asking them to do 959 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 4: as much, but again, they were really put in tremendous 960 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 4: conflict by Andy Reid. 961 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 3: I'm gonna flip it back though. I mean, I know Joe. 962 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 4: Burrow used to be Burrowhead, but this Chief defense is 963 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 4: a different monster in the last two years. And what 964 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 4: you saw that game down the opener, it came down 965 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 4: to Lamar Jackson just being superman against the defense that 966 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,319 Speaker 4: had everything else blocked up until and Patrick. 967 00:41:59,040 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 3: We were talking about it. 968 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 4: The back half of the fourth quarter, when the Ravens 969 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,399 Speaker 4: went up tempo and they went no huddle, that's when 970 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 4: they started moving the ball on the Chief. That's when 971 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 4: they started being on schedule. Maybe we'll see some of 972 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 4: that early on the game for Cincinnati, to try to 973 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 4: prevent some of the substitutions for the Chiefs and to 974 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 4: allow them to get into a type of a rhythm, 975 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 4: because that's one thing that Chiefs defense in the opener 976 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 4: did not let the Ravens do. 977 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 3: Until a get in the back half of the fourth 978 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 3: quarter and Lamar gets time, He's able to get those 979 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 3: balls to Isaiah, likely because they're they're staying on the field, 980 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 3: they're in the hurry up. Lamar has been running all game. Yes, 981 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 3: Chris Jones was wiped out. Ye, he was absolutely zeroed out, 982 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,840 Speaker 3: and that provided the assistance. The Bengals an't gonna have 983 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow running like that. I don't think it's smart 984 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 3: for Joe to be aggressive like that. He can be, 985 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 3: but it's it's really just is can they rely on 986 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 3: Joe and Jamar to make those types of plays? Was 987 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 3: that all Christian Gonzales was that a little bit of 988 00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 3: hangover from off season stuff with Jamar Chase have to 989 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 3: be explosive against Case and they just could do nothing right. 990 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,919 Speaker 3: And again, if Tanner Hudson doesn't get the ball knocked 991 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,879 Speaker 3: away from Kyle Duggart, right, if there's no fumble, right, 992 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 3: we're looking we might be looking at this game a 993 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 3: whole lot differently. 994 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,760 Speaker 2: But man, it's a big spot. It's a big spot. 995 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,240 Speaker 3: Five is a big number. 996 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 2: Two though it was six. 997 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,959 Speaker 1: So so the public agrees with you and it brought 998 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: it back. It's a big game, though you don't. I 999 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 1: know they've done it before and they've rallied, but it's 1000 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,840 Speaker 1: just tough start in your season. Oh win two, So 1001 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 1: it's a it's a big game for them. It's also 1002 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 1: a big game for Tony Romo. I mentioned how I 1003 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:39,399 Speaker 1: thought he was kind of ducking the competition last week 1004 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,879 Speaker 1: with Tom Brady was on a four h five game, 1005 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 1: and so this is back at his big spot. Patrick 1006 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,919 Speaker 1: with that, with the world watching the four to twenty five, 1007 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 1: this is the big game. This is his game. Really, 1008 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,840 Speaker 1: He's probably called it many times before. He needs to 1009 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 1: have a big gear. 1010 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 3: And I think the winner here is the people, right, Yes, 1011 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 3: because Tony came out, he was he was explosive, he 1012 00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 3: was prepared, he was excited, and maybe maybe we locked 1013 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 3: a little bit of that. And so now that Tom 1014 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 3: is dominating the discussion, whether you know again Tom's calling 1015 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,240 Speaker 3: his first game like Jill a little bit, and people 1016 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,359 Speaker 3: were thinking Scott Hansen was being critical of Tom. Like no, 1017 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 3: Scott was just excited, like I was to see a 1018 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 3: seventy one yard field goal, and he wanted Tom to 1019 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 3: be as excited as everyone else was. They wasn't saying 1020 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 3: Tom's bad. I think Tom being in the broadcast booth 1021 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 3: in general. I don't know if if Tony's ducking folks, okay, 1022 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 3: but I do know that that it helps with the 1023 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,759 Speaker 3: idea that like, hey, you know people people want to 1024 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 3: hear Tom Brady and Tony rom was going to come 1025 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 3: out and say this is this is why I'm here. 1026 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 3: I like this. He's gonna up his game. 1027 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,399 Speaker 1: I mean he he's heard, he's heard the criticism out there. 1028 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 1: Hopefully the Bengals run defense has too. That's been the 1029 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 1: big concerned in Cincinnati this week that they were a 1030 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,320 Speaker 1: bad run events last year. Then you lose DJ Reader 1031 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,279 Speaker 1: and they got steam rolled last week. So they will 1032 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 1: be challenged by the Chiefs and their big front in 1033 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 1: Isaiah Pacheco. Let's take a quick break. Yeah, that's the 1034 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,319 Speaker 1: only way we can do it. After that kind of game, 1035 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 1: download the DraftKings Sportsbook app now and use the code daily. 1036 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 1: New customers can bet just five bucks to get two 1037 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty instantly in bonus bets only on Draftking 1038 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:22,800 Speaker 1: sports Book with a Code daily. 1039 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 2: The crown is yours in a city divided by so 1040 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:28,719 Speaker 2: many factions. 1041 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 1: Kendrick Lamar proof that one man night, Los Angeles. 1042 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 2: But what if it was two. 1043 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 5: Pop out to sofar stadium all season long to catch 1044 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 5: Jim Harbaugh. He'll bring extra Khakis, extra blockers, and a 1045 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 5: return to simpler times with good kids in this mad 1046 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 5: city when the forward passed was backwards, thinking to. 1047 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 2: Leave your swimming pools on Sundays and drank with us. Oh, 1048 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 2: and we have some decent players too. Pay four by 1049 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:02,319 Speaker 2: the who's got the hot shot coach? 1050 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 1: Now, how rams actual. 1051 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,239 Speaker 4: Chargers We're not like aggressive, We're like we're not like 1052 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 4: Greg Patrick. 1053 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 3: No, that's the goal is to try to get like Greg. 1054 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 3: But sometimes you know. 1055 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,280 Speaker 2: Chargers, you know, coming after him, they're China. 1056 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 1: It's it's like when the Clippers put up those billboards 1057 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,879 Speaker 1: you know about the Lakers a few years back. It's 1058 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,359 Speaker 1: the Chargers taken over, and you know they have good 1059 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 1: players too. 1060 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 3: And here's the thing. The Chargers are six and a 1061 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 3: half point favorites two thousand and one hundred and twenty 1062 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:38,319 Speaker 3: miles away from Los Angeles International Airport on the road 1063 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 3: to take on Bryce Young, Dave Canalis and the Carolina Panthers, 1064 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,800 Speaker 3: who were run all over, all over by Alba Kamara 1065 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,879 Speaker 3: and the Saints in Week one. Incomes JK. Dobbins, greg 1066 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,800 Speaker 3: who had thirteen yards of carry, which what is crazy? 1067 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 3: What are they gonna do against the Panthers. 1068 00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 1: They'll probably do whatever they want because the Panthers had 1069 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 1: one of the worst defensive lines in the league when 1070 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 1: they had an All Pro and Derek Brown, and now 1071 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 1: they don't have an All Pro. And look, there was 1072 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 1: a lot of interior pressure actually on Justin Herbert last week. 1073 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,319 Speaker 1: The Raiders were getting after him early. But that's the 1074 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 1: thing about Harby, you heard it. He not a big 1075 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,719 Speaker 1: fan of the Ford pat They stayed consistent with the run. 1076 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 1: It really wasn't working all day. You just wait and 1077 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 1: wait and waiting. It finally popped and they might not 1078 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 1: have to wait as long this week for it to POPSI. 1079 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,239 Speaker 4: There's nothing like seeing a team as a six and 1080 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,959 Speaker 4: a half point favorite with an over underline of thirty. 1081 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:32,239 Speaker 3: Eight and a half. 1082 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 4: Oh, that's I mean, that means you're not thinking the 1083 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,359 Speaker 4: other team's gonna score very much, that being the Carolina Panthers. Look, 1084 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,880 Speaker 4: I spoke to somebody in league circles. I'll put it 1085 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 4: to you that way. Who saw the game with the 1086 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:51,840 Speaker 4: Panthers and the Saints. It said, Carolina Panthers are just 1087 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,399 Speaker 4: not a good football team. Just look again, it's week one. 1088 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 4: They could have been totally discombobulated, but they did not 1089 00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 4: come down ready to play in week one, playing against 1090 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 4: a team that is not going to beat itself. I mean, 1091 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,279 Speaker 4: the Chargers are going to be fundamentally sound. You know 1092 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,279 Speaker 4: what they are, you know their identity. They are going 1093 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 4: to pound the ball, they're going to run the ball, 1094 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 4: and they're going to choke you out defensively. 1095 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 3: Maybe nothing spectacular, but if Bryce. 1096 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,399 Speaker 4: Young and the way that the Carolina Panthers came out 1097 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,880 Speaker 4: and tried to do whatever they didn't functionally do against 1098 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,280 Speaker 4: the Saints, this is gonna get bad. Like they're at home, 1099 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,840 Speaker 4: they have got to find some semblance of a running 1100 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 4: game to take the pressure off of Bryce. 1101 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,439 Speaker 3: But he just looked bad. I mean, look at that throw. 1102 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:32,959 Speaker 3: Right there. 1103 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,400 Speaker 4: And you know, another person said to me, some of 1104 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,239 Speaker 4: the things that concerned you about why he shouldn't have 1105 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,360 Speaker 4: been the top pick have surfaced a little too often, 1106 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,839 Speaker 4: and again we might not be giving him a fair shake. Right, 1107 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 4: we gave Trevor Lawrence a pass on year one. But 1108 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 4: they're like, these things are flaring up, some of the 1109 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:56,120 Speaker 4: things they're saying so against again, a highly physical, disciplined 1110 00:48:56,239 --> 00:49:01,279 Speaker 4: Chargers team, they better really reverse as we reverse on 1111 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,960 Speaker 4: what happened week one if they want to cover that 1112 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:05,840 Speaker 4: six and a half. 1113 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, Bryce, of course, being the quarterback and the number 1114 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 3: one overall pick, they gave up so much to get 1115 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 3: oh first places a whole lot. But we need some 1116 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,839 Speaker 3: other Panthers to be good too, Like Ikey Aquanu got 1117 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,640 Speaker 3: absolutely worn out by Chase Young had a career game. 1118 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 3: It was one of the worst games Aquanu gave, giving 1119 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 3: up six pressures and so like I think that there's hope, 1120 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 3: there's some hope for Carolina. You could take solace in this, 1121 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,719 Speaker 3: right because Rashisha he catches that fifty five plus yard 1122 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,239 Speaker 3: bomb on the on one of the first possessions of 1123 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 3: the game for New Orleans. Justin Herbert had his fewest 1124 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 3: completions of over ten air yards second fewested his entire career. 1125 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,319 Speaker 2: So the harball look like they're playing in a phone 1126 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:49,320 Speaker 2: with two Yeah. 1127 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 3: The hardball. Chargers aren't gonna throw up and down Bank 1128 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,279 Speaker 3: of America Stadium with big shots. So they don't have 1129 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,720 Speaker 3: they don't have anyone to do it. Maybe like they're 1130 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,560 Speaker 3: at least style wise, they can take a few body 1131 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 3: shots and maybe have a chance to shock the world. 1132 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 3: Maybe shock me at least because it's it's bad. 1133 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 1: Right now, and wow, shock the world against the Chargers too, like, 1134 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 1: and I love I love the idea that the Chargers 1135 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:12,840 Speaker 1: could get to to and oh and get get at 1136 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 1: a little bit of heat coming. 1137 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,840 Speaker 2: Into I think they have the chiefs coming into the building. 1138 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 3: It'll be great. That's gonna be. That's gonna be damn 1139 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:19,279 Speaker 3: next week. 1140 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,920 Speaker 1: But one thing if you're a Panthers fan that has 1141 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,800 Speaker 1: to concern you is there was so much unblocked pressure 1142 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 1: last week against Bryce Young. And so I don't know 1143 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,560 Speaker 1: if that's the coaching which we saw with Philadelphia last year. 1144 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,160 Speaker 1: I think it was more about the coaching than it 1145 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:34,360 Speaker 1: necessarily was the quarterback. 1146 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:35,880 Speaker 2: And Bryce Young has some freedom. 1147 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,000 Speaker 1: Dave Canaw has talked about this week to change things 1148 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:40,880 Speaker 1: up at the line of scrimmage if we see in something. 1149 00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,240 Speaker 1: But once that's on tape, you can believe that Jesse 1150 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,239 Speaker 1: Minterer that coordinated for the Chargers and Jim Harbaugh they 1151 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 1: saw that too, and so they're gonna have to have 1152 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,880 Speaker 1: some answers. And I just don't know if this offense 1153 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,799 Speaker 1: is makes sense. We got to see it. Does Bryce 1154 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,760 Speaker 1: Young make sense in this style of kind of McVeigh, 1155 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,760 Speaker 1: you know, adjacent type of offense. 1156 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,320 Speaker 3: Well, look, I mean shorter quarterbacks. 1157 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,960 Speaker 4: There are other quarterbacks here, Russell Wilson, Gino Smith, Baker 1158 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 4: Mayfield made sense in this game that Dave Kannalis coach. 1159 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,359 Speaker 3: But again it goes down to the protection. You talk 1160 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 3: about ikey Iguanage. 1161 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,320 Speaker 2: But those guys were all throwing it deep. 1162 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,400 Speaker 1: When I think of like, what was their strength, and 1163 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 1: maybe Bryce Young can do that, but I think of 1164 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,359 Speaker 1: him more as maybe get the ball out quickly and 1165 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 1: point guard type. 1166 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,719 Speaker 4: Well he's gonna have to because Patrick talked about Ikey 1167 00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 4: Iguana Getty steam rolled last week. The Chargers are coming 1168 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,239 Speaker 4: to town with Khalil mac Joey Boson, tu La Tuiya 1169 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:30,799 Speaker 4: Polo two. 1170 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 3: Those dudes get after it now. 1171 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,440 Speaker 4: So it's gonna have to be a quick passing game 1172 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:39,080 Speaker 4: unless it's just a twenty step drop for Bryce shung to. 1173 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,759 Speaker 3: You have to buy time and launch it. Yeah, and 1174 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 3: there's there's plenty that the Panthers have put on film 1175 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,560 Speaker 3: for people to see. In that film everybody has access to. 1176 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 3: We know what Harball and company can do when they 1177 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,440 Speaker 3: have film that only they have access to. Oh, it's 1178 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:53,920 Speaker 3: gonna be something. It's the Carolina Panthers. From there, we 1179 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:58,200 Speaker 3: go to another revenge game after being discarded by the 1180 00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 3: San Francisco for I'm just kidding. Sam Darnold coming back 1181 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 3: to take on the place that kind of reborn. It 1182 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,640 Speaker 3: gave him another opportunity. He's back and starting now after 1183 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 3: the injury. The Minnesota Vikings are a six point underdog 1184 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,960 Speaker 3: at home. Wow, that's a huge number. Man Rock and 1185 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:23,440 Speaker 3: Trenton Company. After Greg they blitzed the Giants in MetLife 1186 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,480 Speaker 3: on a day where they're celebrating the franchise and everybody 1187 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:26,960 Speaker 3: left two. 1188 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know who else they blitzed last year on 1189 00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,959 Speaker 1: Monday Night football kind of Brian Flores his big coming 1190 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,680 Speaker 1: out party as a defensive quarter the San Francisco. 1191 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:37,000 Speaker 2: Forty nine ers. 1192 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,759 Speaker 1: Brock Perty has never looked worse than he did in 1193 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,760 Speaker 1: that game. Now, knowing Flora's not personally, but just knowing 1194 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,000 Speaker 1: his get down, my guess is he'll flip the script 1195 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 1: this year and he doesn't need to blitz quite as 1196 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:52,600 Speaker 1: much because they have better pass rushers overall, or they 1197 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,239 Speaker 1: feel like they're they're deeper. Obviously you lose Denel Hunter, 1198 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 1: you don't get better, but they have more players there. 1199 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,239 Speaker 1: Dallas Turner had a sack last week. Van ginkels out 1200 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,600 Speaker 1: there doing all sorts of things. Brian Flores loves him, 1201 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,239 Speaker 1: and you have Jonathan Grenard. You got the safeties, so 1202 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,640 Speaker 1: he won't do the same plan as last time. But 1203 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,560 Speaker 1: you better believe that Kyle Shanahan is a little more 1204 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,399 Speaker 1: prepared for what's coming at him. It sounds like, though, 1205 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:18,200 Speaker 1: according to our guy Ian rapport, that CMC will probably 1206 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,120 Speaker 1: not play I think so in this game. Jordan Addison 1207 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,120 Speaker 1: also ify he missed practiced on Wednesday. 1208 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, remember Ryan Flores came out blitzing like that. That's 1209 00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,439 Speaker 4: the game when the Niners didn't have Debo or Trent 1210 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 4: Williams either. Both of those guys will be playing huge 1211 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,360 Speaker 4: roles in this game. But that's still that's a huge number. 1212 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,640 Speaker 4: I mean, San Francisco's coming off a game that they 1213 00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 4: were really pumped up for. Jordan Mason running back is Mason. 1214 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:43,600 Speaker 2: It's Jordan Mason. Baby. 1215 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,360 Speaker 3: I'm like, I just want to make sure Georgia, Texa 1216 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:46,759 Speaker 3: like that. 1217 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 2: He's not in my starting fantasy lineup this week. 1218 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:49,480 Speaker 3: Let's go. 1219 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:54,319 Speaker 1: I drafted Jordan Mason. I saw anybody, No, I just 1220 00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,080 Speaker 1: took him. I just took him. Wow. 1221 00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,480 Speaker 4: But I mean, look at the blocking we're watching video 1222 00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 4: right here. There is nothing but red just annihilating guys 1223 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:03,480 Speaker 4: and white jerts. It's not going to be like that 1224 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,440 Speaker 4: against the Vikings. I mean, the Vikings and Flora will 1225 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,560 Speaker 4: scheme things up. I don't think Sam Frantis who is 1226 00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,160 Speaker 4: gonna be able to run the ball a little bit more. 1227 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,000 Speaker 4: The Vikings are a tougher team. It's not that they 1228 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,120 Speaker 4: just mopped up on the Giants. They are going to 1229 00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,120 Speaker 4: be a better team than people expect. I think this 1230 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,759 Speaker 4: is gonna be a really challenging game. Remember the forty 1231 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:21,359 Speaker 4: nine went up there and they coughed the ball up 1232 00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:22,919 Speaker 4: a couple times last year. 1233 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:24,320 Speaker 3: That's gonna be a point of emphasis. 1234 00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,600 Speaker 4: But I think this is gonna be a highly contested 1235 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 4: game and that's why I'm looking at that number at six. 1236 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:29,479 Speaker 2: And a half. 1237 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:30,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would like six. 1238 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 4: Like wow, that's a big number, you know, for the 1239 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:35,960 Speaker 4: game being in Minnesota as well. 1240 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,560 Speaker 2: For a team that's really talented. I think that gets lost. 1241 00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,040 Speaker 1: So I just mentioned a lot of like kind of 1242 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,560 Speaker 1: the periphery defensive players. But you have maybe the best 1243 00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:48,200 Speaker 1: tackle combination in football, well one Cristin Darisaw and O'Neill. 1244 00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,279 Speaker 2: And maybe they canmit again. 1245 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,000 Speaker 1: I mean, there's no great matchup against Nick Bosa, but 1246 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,080 Speaker 1: maybe they can do a good job. They're like they 1247 00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 1: have legit players. Aaron Jones last week, I mean I 1248 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,919 Speaker 1: would say it's the Fountain youth. But he looked great 1249 00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:02,080 Speaker 1: at the end of last year too. He looked like 1250 00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:02,640 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones. 1251 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, six point seven yards per carry against the Giants. 1252 00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,360 Speaker 3: This this is the Giants defense, uh with Fred and 1253 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,920 Speaker 3: company who gave Breese and the Jets all kinds. But again, 1254 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:17,000 Speaker 3: as the Jets, it's week one. Perhaps the Jets are 1255 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 3: on fraud watch it and we don't necessarily know, but 1256 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:24,879 Speaker 3: they they look Darrisaul was spectacular. Yes, great to see 1257 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,120 Speaker 3: Aaron Jones still doing it and his kind of I 1258 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,480 Speaker 3: can't wait for for his like actual revenge game. I 1259 00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,280 Speaker 3: hope Jordan Love is back for that one. But it's 1260 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:38,080 Speaker 3: six points. I understand it. It makes sense to me. 1261 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:42,360 Speaker 3: I may have them them covering that just really based 1262 00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:47,040 Speaker 3: on everybody being back. A gets Yeah, he'll be better. Yeah, 1263 00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,520 Speaker 3: I think he catches that touchdown nine times out of ten, 1264 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,200 Speaker 3: and it's it's tough. It's a tough spot for the Vikings. 1265 00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,080 Speaker 3: But show me Sam, show me. 1266 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:55,799 Speaker 2: That for test. 1267 00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:57,960 Speaker 1: You know, he was very good last week when they 1268 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,640 Speaker 1: did blitz Sam Darnold. I have a theory that he's 1269 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,920 Speaker 1: almost better when he doesn't have time to think. It's 1270 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,120 Speaker 1: like you blitz him and he's like, I just got 1271 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:05,520 Speaker 1: to get. 1272 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:05,920 Speaker 2: Rid of the ball. 1273 00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,879 Speaker 1: When he holds the ball in his career included even 1274 00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,280 Speaker 1: last week, the numbers aren't as good then just things 1275 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,880 Speaker 1: get muddy and confused. 1276 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:15,080 Speaker 2: But so maybe don't blitz him. 1277 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean paralysis by over analysis Joey Harrington syndrome. 1278 00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,160 Speaker 4: You got too much time, you're gonna overthink about all 1279 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,120 Speaker 4: the possibilities. Get it out, especially to a guy we 1280 00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,880 Speaker 4: haven't mentioned justin Jefferson, You'll be able to do some 1281 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,200 Speaker 4: things against this defense, which is a. 1282 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,640 Speaker 3: Weird juxtaposition with him and Brock. They were on the 1283 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,880 Speaker 3: same team, because when Brock gets on the outside and 1284 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,880 Speaker 3: things get a little squirrely, he knows exactly what to do, 1285 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,200 Speaker 3: and he's so calm, so operating about it. He'll throw 1286 00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,600 Speaker 3: a spin move in there. It's fun, it's always, but 1287 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,800 Speaker 3: almost as fun as a chance to see the number 1288 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:52,920 Speaker 3: one overall pick Caleb Williams on Sunday Night Football, a 1289 00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:57,040 Speaker 3: six point dog to the Houston Texans, who were spectacular 1290 00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,680 Speaker 3: with their new additions. Joe Mixon goes off, as well 1291 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:05,560 Speaker 3: as two touchdowns for Stefan Diggs. Greg Is there a 1292 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,560 Speaker 3: world in which Caleb and the Bears defense can overcome 1293 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,000 Speaker 3: this monster of the Houston Texas. 1294 00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,920 Speaker 2: Absolutely, there's a world. I'm not living in that world. 1295 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:16,440 Speaker 1: Like you know, it's a six point spread that feels 1296 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,520 Speaker 1: about right to me, Like I feel comfortable the Texans 1297 00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,280 Speaker 1: win this game. I would, I would, I would feel 1298 00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,000 Speaker 1: good about that. And yet this is a perfect Sunday 1299 00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:26,640 Speaker 1: Night game. I gotta give a shout out to is 1300 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,120 Speaker 1: it Mike North in the scheduling department. Yes, they came 1301 00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,320 Speaker 1: out with the primetime games in Week one and they 1302 00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,280 Speaker 1: say like fire show. It's like a concert that starts 1303 00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,720 Speaker 1: with all your biggest songs. Okay, now we're sliding into 1304 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,760 Speaker 1: Week two. I'm not going to say they're like deep 1305 00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,760 Speaker 1: album cuts, but very nice. Thursday night matchup with Miami 1306 00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,919 Speaker 1: Buffalo and in this to be is a perfect Week 1307 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,640 Speaker 1: two Sunday night. Let's get Caleb Williams in early. He 1308 00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,640 Speaker 1: has some answers, some questions to answer. 1309 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:52,600 Speaker 2: You have CJ. 1310 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:56,400 Speaker 1: Stroud, our next big star, the number two pick last year. 1311 00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:57,520 Speaker 2: It's absolutely perfect. 1312 00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,640 Speaker 1: And yet I think the biggest single mismatch in this 1313 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,720 Speaker 1: entire game, at least if Week one wasn't a liar, 1314 00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,360 Speaker 1: is the Houston Texans running game. They went from worse 1315 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,560 Speaker 1: to first, worse than the league DVOA last year to 1316 00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,120 Speaker 1: best in the league in Week one, and that is 1317 00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,320 Speaker 1: the way you always want to attack a Matt Eberflu's defense. 1318 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,200 Speaker 2: They are built to stop the pass. 1319 00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,880 Speaker 1: They are fantastic stopping the past, and their pass rush 1320 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:22,800 Speaker 1: was good last week too, but they weren't as good 1321 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,880 Speaker 1: against the run. They're traditionally not as good against the run. 1322 00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,440 Speaker 1: So is this Joe Mixon rushing attack a lot of 1323 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,240 Speaker 1: times into light boxes because you have all these great receivers. 1324 00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:32,240 Speaker 2: Is that for real? 1325 00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,240 Speaker 1: Because if it is, this is gonna be a top 1326 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:36,680 Speaker 1: three offense in the NFL. 1327 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,840 Speaker 4: So Houston goes out and gets Joe Mixon because he's 1328 00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,960 Speaker 4: familiar with the zone runs game. Damian Pierce was not. 1329 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:45,000 Speaker 4: That was something that he's gotten better, right. But mixing 1330 00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,440 Speaker 4: comes in and you see it operate functionally and what 1331 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,840 Speaker 4: Bobby Schlook likes to do offensively. 1332 00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,000 Speaker 3: That's gonna set up so much more. 1333 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,240 Speaker 4: And we know the Texas, They've got receivers for days, 1334 00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,320 Speaker 4: they've got tight ends for days, and they've got a 1335 00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,280 Speaker 4: strong offensive line. 1336 00:58:58,600 --> 00:58:59,680 Speaker 3: I'm just looking a let's go. 1337 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,520 Speaker 4: Back to Caleb Williams, who, by the way, still is 1338 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:02,640 Speaker 4: not on Quarterback Island. 1339 00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:06,120 Speaker 1: Greg, Oh, that was a good call, you guys, at 1340 00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,240 Speaker 1: least after one week relaxed. I was trying to put 1341 00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,919 Speaker 1: him onto the island. If you missed it, we will 1342 00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,080 Speaker 1: be bringing back quarterback Island. It is a special place 1343 00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:20,040 Speaker 1: where only ten quarterbacks twelve quarterbacks can live. And I thought, Caleb, 1344 00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,040 Speaker 1: you should just start him there since he's going to 1345 00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,360 Speaker 1: be there his whole career, but maybe I was wrong 1346 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,200 Speaker 1: about that. Well, we'll revisit in a couple of weeks 1347 00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:27,040 Speaker 1: on a Tuesday. 1348 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:30,040 Speaker 4: But his comp his comp was CJ Stroud, I mean, 1349 00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:31,760 Speaker 4: and the Bears, Brian Pace. 1350 00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,400 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Ryan Poles, not Ryan Pace. Ryan Poles general manager. 1351 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,080 Speaker 4: You know at the Hall of Fame game, he told 1352 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,680 Speaker 4: me and Brian Baldinger, we're not running from that comp 1353 00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,080 Speaker 4: We think the fact that c J. Stroud came out 1354 00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:44,720 Speaker 4: and lit it up like that as a rookie is 1355 00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,760 Speaker 4: something that Caleb Williams can do. They've put him in 1356 00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:49,600 Speaker 4: position to do it now. He said, Caleb has to 1357 00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,720 Speaker 4: run his own race, but they think he's talented enough 1358 00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,640 Speaker 4: to do the great things that c J. Stroud did. 1359 00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,000 Speaker 4: Don't think a competitor like c J Stroud has not 1360 00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,600 Speaker 4: heard that. Also, yeah'll spice. 1361 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:01,959 Speaker 2: It off and CJ. 1362 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:07,640 Speaker 1: To be fair, his first couple games were not crazy. Now, 1363 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:09,440 Speaker 1: he didn't have like a ninety three yard game, but 1364 01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,240 Speaker 1: he did have one game where he really struggled. That 1365 01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,000 Speaker 1: was about it. But even but they were more conservative early. 1366 01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,520 Speaker 1: I don't think it was about being conservative with the 1367 01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,000 Speaker 1: Bears last week, they just you know, he missed it. 1368 01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:19,800 Speaker 2: It was a combination. 1369 01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:21,600 Speaker 1: I think he made more good plays in that game 1370 01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,560 Speaker 1: than I expected when I went to rewatch it. But 1371 01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:27,080 Speaker 1: he struggled when he was under pressure, and he didn't 1372 01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,120 Speaker 1: create kind of like he expected. There was like one 1373 01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,000 Speaker 1: or two plays, but when he tried to go into 1374 01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:32,680 Speaker 1: create mode, it didn't work. 1375 01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we saw the preseason magic. Of course, the 1376 01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,560 Speaker 3: spin throw to Romo Dunze. We saw that a million 1377 01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,840 Speaker 3: times out of the preseason, but like it wasn't just 1378 01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,280 Speaker 3: when there was no pressure. When the time to throw 1379 01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,160 Speaker 3: was over two and a half seconds, he was three 1380 01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:48,320 Speaker 3: or thirteen mm through the air. And and some of 1381 01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,400 Speaker 3: those there's the keenan Allen drop, right, there's the one 1382 01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,000 Speaker 3: he missed, Keen Nollen. You can pick and choose there. 1383 01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,680 Speaker 3: But where Caleb succeeded was he didn't on the other 1384 01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:01,040 Speaker 3: side like Will Levis's of whirling urbans throwing the ball 1385 01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:04,160 Speaker 3: to the other team and fumbles and all this other stuff. 1386 01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,600 Speaker 3: But Caleb had that nice third and ten run that 1387 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,400 Speaker 3: set up a Cairo Santos field goal, the cut into 1388 01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,480 Speaker 3: that lead to give that defensive play a chance to 1389 01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:18,320 Speaker 3: tie the ball game up, and ultimately, like no turnovers, 1390 01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:23,000 Speaker 3: he took the ball, No, he's not. You know CJ. 1391 01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:26,200 Speaker 3: Stroud or in that early game last year against Anthony 1392 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,520 Speaker 3: Richardson where he throws for three hundred and eighty something 1393 01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:30,680 Speaker 3: yards and it's like world beating. 1394 01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,480 Speaker 1: Maybe this week Sunday Night football. He's a big time player. 1395 01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,480 Speaker 3: Got a chance? Why not? Why not? 1396 01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,240 Speaker 2: I love that would be fun. I own that said. 1397 01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:42,240 Speaker 1: I almost took this as my Survivor pick Texans over 1398 01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:43,240 Speaker 1: the Bears. 1399 01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:47,280 Speaker 3: Thought about it. So, speaking of the state of Texas, 1400 01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,080 Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys, we're going to be at home in 1401 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,480 Speaker 3: our next game where they play host to Derek Carr 1402 01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:57,000 Speaker 3: and the New Orleans Saints, who took the foot off 1403 01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:00,320 Speaker 3: the gas and still scored forty seven points. Again the 1404 01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,640 Speaker 3: Carolina Panthers. Dallas is a six and a half. That's 1405 01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:07,960 Speaker 3: a point favorite over this New Orleans Saints team. Greg 1406 01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:12,920 Speaker 3: where Alva Kamara looked great. Talis Uaga was incredible against 1407 01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,800 Speaker 3: the Carolina Panthers. It's the Panthers caveat we get to 1408 01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,120 Speaker 3: find out what's real and what's not here because the 1409 01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:22,760 Speaker 3: Cowboys are kind of this litmus test type team where 1410 01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:23,840 Speaker 3: you could tell if you're really. 1411 01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:24,560 Speaker 2: Over or not right. 1412 01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,480 Speaker 1: I think it's the ultimate sort of Week two reality 1413 01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,320 Speaker 1: check or test that you actually might have it for 1414 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:34,320 Speaker 1: the Saints offensive line, specifically more than any other group 1415 01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,800 Speaker 1: in this game. The Saints offensive line coming into the 1416 01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:41,960 Speaker 1: season looked like such a problem it might hold the 1417 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:42,880 Speaker 1: whole team back. 1418 01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:44,320 Speaker 2: They had a great Week one. 1419 01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,080 Speaker 1: Now they were playing the Panthers who have no one 1420 01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,760 Speaker 1: really upfront, but Trevor Penny the best game of his career, like, 1421 01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:51,840 Speaker 1: looked like an NFL player. Now you got to go 1422 01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:55,520 Speaker 1: up against DeMarcus Lawrence and Michael Parsons who's lining up 1423 01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,880 Speaker 1: in different spots when he's rushing, and they're a little 1424 01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,680 Speaker 1: deeper than we expect. Did because this kid de marve 1425 01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:05,320 Speaker 1: On Overshan who linebacker, looked good. Kneeland's out there, he's 1426 01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,160 Speaker 1: a rookie setting the edge. Like there's just a lot 1427 01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,360 Speaker 1: to deal with. So we'll see if the Saints offensive 1428 01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,040 Speaker 1: line can hold up. And it's the scheme with Clint Kubiak, 1429 01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,760 Speaker 1: because if they can, they had a good, cohesive looking 1430 01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:17,520 Speaker 1: running game. I just don't know if it was just 1431 01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,560 Speaker 1: Week one. I will say that I know last year 1432 01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,120 Speaker 1: they didn't look like that against the worst defense in 1433 01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:26,160 Speaker 1: the league ever. The Saints offense so I already feel 1434 01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:29,080 Speaker 1: much better, especially about the running game in Alvin Kamara. 1435 01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:29,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1436 01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,440 Speaker 4: I mean, look, the Cowboys came out looked. They look 1437 01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,240 Speaker 4: like a dominant defense. I mean Cleveland they just could 1438 01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,080 Speaker 4: not figure it. I think part of that's on Cleveland. 1439 01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,160 Speaker 4: So this is why I'm saying this is a test, 1440 01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,480 Speaker 4: like this is a big number, because maybe the Saints 1441 01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:44,880 Speaker 4: are a little bit better than what we thought. Are 1442 01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:48,240 Speaker 4: the Cowboys as good? Especially on defense? I think again 1443 01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:52,560 Speaker 4: the Saints calling card though is their defense. 1444 01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:54,640 Speaker 3: But is Dak gonna be able to move with the ball? 1445 01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,360 Speaker 3: And now we know the Browns had a great defense. 1446 01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:57,920 Speaker 4: But the Saints have been like a top eight defense 1447 01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,720 Speaker 4: for five or six years in a row. And of 1448 01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:04,080 Speaker 4: course they came on they dominated Carolina Panthers. I think 1449 01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:07,000 Speaker 4: they're gonna have a little something. They tend to play 1450 01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,720 Speaker 4: the Cowboys tough. I think they're gonna be able to 1451 01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:11,760 Speaker 4: generate some stuff like Dallas is gonna be able to 1452 01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,160 Speaker 4: run the ball on the Saints like they did against Cleveland. 1453 01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:15,440 Speaker 3: They were They were really. 1454 01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,959 Speaker 2: Good offensively until the second half. 1455 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:19,800 Speaker 1: For what it's worth. I know they had a big lead, 1456 01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:21,720 Speaker 1: but they didn't do it. They had like fifty yards 1457 01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:22,160 Speaker 1: in the second. 1458 01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:23,760 Speaker 4: It was all CD Lamb and that was the thing. 1459 01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:25,800 Speaker 4: It was a pitching gat. Dak and Ceedee Lamb look great, 1460 01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:29,880 Speaker 4: But otherwise you just were kind of That's what I'm saying. 1461 01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,400 Speaker 4: You're kind of wondering with all of the stuff, with 1462 01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:35,240 Speaker 4: that the Saints have in their secondary and tomorrow Davis 1463 01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:36,680 Speaker 4: being one of the best players in the NFL and 1464 01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,000 Speaker 4: some of the stuff they do up front, I think 1465 01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,120 Speaker 4: this is gonna be a very tough game for Dallas's defense. 1466 01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,960 Speaker 1: Just one injury note about that secondary, and these were 1467 01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,560 Speaker 1: kind of surprises. Tyron Matthew miss practice Wednesday with a 1468 01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:51,720 Speaker 1: hamstring injury, and Marshawn Lattimore also missed practice, So if 1469 01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:53,040 Speaker 1: they were both out that that would hurt. 1470 01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:55,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, kol A McKinstry, the rookie came in and replaced 1471 01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:59,320 Speaker 3: Marshawn Latimore and the third orps and the Saints. You know, 1472 01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,600 Speaker 3: that's kind of because there was the off season discussion 1473 01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:03,840 Speaker 3: about whether or not Marshan gets traded, right, I think 1474 01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:05,680 Speaker 3: they make the right decision and keep him because there's 1475 01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:08,320 Speaker 3: more value if he stays there and you get a 1476 01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,720 Speaker 3: very good football player. But the plans in place for 1477 01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:14,920 Speaker 3: Marshawn if he's if he's not available, my overall question 1478 01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:17,120 Speaker 3: is gonna be the same question with the Dallas Cowboys 1479 01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,280 Speaker 3: week in and week out. I understand it was the 1480 01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:23,000 Speaker 3: Browns in week one, but the run game is is 1481 01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,880 Speaker 3: an afterthought at this point. It seems like a tacit 1482 01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:29,280 Speaker 3: admission that, hey, like, we're not necessarily prioritizing ball. We'll 1483 01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,760 Speaker 3: get Rico a few carries, a z Heke comes in, 1484 01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,160 Speaker 3: he gets some give up carries. Maybe Dak will check 1485 01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:37,200 Speaker 3: to it. But it's so much to put on Dak 1486 01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,440 Speaker 3: and CD. But if you're gonna put a lot on 1487 01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:42,400 Speaker 3: two players in the NFL at this point in their careers, 1488 01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:43,800 Speaker 3: it's Dak and those two. 1489 01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:45,480 Speaker 1: That's why I want That's why I want the same 1490 01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:48,120 Speaker 1: secondary to be healthy for this game, because it that's 1491 01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:49,960 Speaker 1: a tough matchup. I think this could be a bit 1492 01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,800 Speaker 1: of a rock fight where yeah, six and a half 1493 01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,400 Speaker 1: points feels like a lot, just because the final score 1494 01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,800 Speaker 1: could be something like seventeen to thirteen in either direction. 1495 01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,040 Speaker 3: And if Jake Ferguson which his health status to the 1496 01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:01,520 Speaker 3: tight end. 1497 01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,560 Speaker 2: They seem hopeful that he'll play. I think he was 1498 01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:04,080 Speaker 2: a big. 1499 01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:07,040 Speaker 3: Part of what they do. Yeah, okay, more more more, 1500 01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:11,240 Speaker 3: Luke Schoonmaker, which is you know. 1501 01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:11,720 Speaker 2: I'm one. 1502 01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:15,200 Speaker 1: I'm at least one week away, probably two before issuing 1503 01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:19,840 Speaker 1: an apology for the incredible amount of Eric Kendricks slander. 1504 01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:23,880 Speaker 1: I put it on this podcast, however, because he had 1505 01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,560 Speaker 1: a great week one. Their linebackers look good. Maybe Mike 1506 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:27,640 Speaker 1: Zimmer knows what he's doing. 1507 01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:28,960 Speaker 3: Zim's gotta figure it out. 1508 01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:31,280 Speaker 1: And if we'll see, I'm giving in another week before 1509 01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:32,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna issue an apologies. 1510 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,560 Speaker 3: And if Eric Kendricks has lost steps to marve On 1511 01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:37,600 Speaker 3: Overshawan makes up for that, Okay, and his ability because 1512 01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,080 Speaker 3: covering that space to get Deshaun Watson last week was 1513 01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:43,360 Speaker 3: one of the scariest, insane examples of speed from a linebacker. 1514 01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,320 Speaker 4: The rosie just wants to take a backhanded slab of 1515 01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:46,400 Speaker 4: Brandon Staley. 1516 01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:50,080 Speaker 1: What uh yeah, that's a fair point. He's making me 1517 01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:52,920 Speaker 1: look bad. Not the only one, Oh yeah taking shots 1518 01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,480 Speaker 1: at Brandon Staley. Right, I'm saying I'm not the only 1519 01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:58,160 Speaker 1: one Brandon Staley made look bad because it's him that 1520 01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:01,000 Speaker 1: made Eric Kendricks takes It's it's a tangled web. We 1521 01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:04,680 Speaker 1: should we take one more break. Let's do it on 1522 01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:08,440 Speaker 1: the podcast. We will be back and wrap up our 1523 01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:24,400 Speaker 1: week to preview right after this back on NFL Daily. 1524 01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:29,480 Speaker 1: Wanted to hear some words from Tyreek Hill on Wednesday. 1525 01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,800 Speaker 1: Of course, they're playing on Thursday Night Football, so they're 1526 01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:35,600 Speaker 1: not part of this preview show. But this story of 1527 01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:38,680 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill when he was detained from police officers and 1528 01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:40,720 Speaker 1: pulled out of his car has just been one of 1529 01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:46,520 Speaker 1: the most upsetting and unique stories I can remember covering 1530 01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:49,040 Speaker 1: the league in Tyreek Hill was on the podium talking 1531 01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:50,200 Speaker 1: about it on Wednesday. 1532 01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:54,720 Speaker 6: Yes, I will say I could have been better. You know, 1533 01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:56,760 Speaker 6: I could have let on my window, you know, in 1534 01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:01,240 Speaker 6: that instant. It's shell shocking, man. Is really it's really 1535 01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:07,640 Speaker 6: crazy to know that, you know, you have officers in 1536 01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:11,040 Speaker 6: this world that would literally do that with body cams on. 1537 01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:11,800 Speaker 2: You know. 1538 01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:12,400 Speaker 3: It's sad. 1539 01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:18,679 Speaker 6: It's really sad, which brings up another conversation and leads 1540 01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:22,040 Speaker 6: into what would they do if they didn't have body cams, 1541 01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:23,519 Speaker 6: which is even crazier. 1542 01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:27,160 Speaker 1: So, yeah, he said he didn't want attention, he didn't 1543 01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:29,400 Speaker 1: want to be cameras out. He saw the phones tape 1544 01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:31,720 Speaker 1: in them and and uh, that's what he was when 1545 01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:33,519 Speaker 1: he was talking about the windows, and then he did 1546 01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:35,080 Speaker 1: add and I wanted to put this in Now, does 1547 01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:37,080 Speaker 1: that give them the right to literally beat the dog 1548 01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:37,479 Speaker 1: out of me? 1549 01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:43,240 Speaker 3: Absolutely not, No, it doesn't if anybody's seen any of 1550 01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:46,400 Speaker 3: the multiple angles. There was one angle included, which was 1551 01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:48,920 Speaker 3: frustrating me once I saw it on Sunday, because you know, 1552 01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:52,800 Speaker 3: the verbiage that we use, the official verbage right, and 1553 01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:56,160 Speaker 3: the police or the arbiter effect, and their statements get 1554 01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:58,919 Speaker 3: to be presented as fact, and so it's it's detained. 1555 01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:01,599 Speaker 3: But there's a clear video of Tyrek Hill being struck 1556 01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:04,880 Speaker 3: while he's being held by two officers and in handcuffed, 1557 01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:09,520 Speaker 3: and so the language that we would use in another circumstance, 1558 01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:12,679 Speaker 3: if that happened to one of the ten to fifteen 1559 01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:16,040 Speaker 3: police officers, there would be the Tyreek Hill assaulted besaults. Yes. 1560 01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:20,479 Speaker 3: But because the position right of the positionality and the 1561 01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:25,040 Speaker 3: power structures only allow things to be said where people 1562 01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:29,080 Speaker 3: take what they say as a statement of fact as 1563 01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:31,280 Speaker 3: the universe's depiction of events, that we have to wait 1564 01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:34,200 Speaker 3: for evidence to the contrary, and time after time after 1565 01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:36,760 Speaker 3: time we find out that the initial reports from the 1566 01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:40,360 Speaker 3: police don't actually represent the sequence of events. And my 1567 01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:44,960 Speaker 3: overall question is if public safety is the priority, and 1568 01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:48,719 Speaker 3: we have ten to fifteen officers devoted to this going 1569 01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:53,040 Speaker 3: sixty in a forty outside the stadium, then is the 1570 01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:57,240 Speaker 3: priority of public safety what's happening everywhere else? Or maybe 1571 01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:01,320 Speaker 3: the priority is just for this to be what happens. 1572 01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,920 Speaker 3: And I understand that Miami's investigating, and and Tyreek Hill 1573 01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,240 Speaker 3: is saying that, you know, one officer should be fired. 1574 01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:09,559 Speaker 3: There were a whole lot of officers were completely fine 1575 01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:12,719 Speaker 3: with that sequence of events. And were there no evidence, 1576 01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:16,680 Speaker 3: I think we would just only hear whatever they say happened. Well, 1577 01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:18,479 Speaker 3: let's bring it to something that was current in the 1578 01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:22,519 Speaker 3: sports world. When Scotty Scheffler got pulled over. Was he 1579 01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:26,320 Speaker 3: getting roughed up? Okay, you see the dynamic I'm drawing here. 1580 01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:28,240 Speaker 4: If that were Scotti Scheffler who was speeding in his 1581 01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:31,960 Speaker 4: Lamborghini down there in Miami Gardens, would those four police 1582 01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:33,720 Speaker 4: officers have rouffed him up the same way? 1583 01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:35,400 Speaker 3: Had he if he handled things the same way? 1584 01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:38,360 Speaker 4: And yes, I've gone there because Patrick and I have experiences, 1585 01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:41,920 Speaker 4: We've seen this. Right, If it were a white dude 1586 01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:45,280 Speaker 4: built like Tyreek does en roll down his window. 1587 01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:47,880 Speaker 3: Are they yanking him out of the cart? Maybe okay? 1588 01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:51,120 Speaker 4: But after that, are they putting hands on him like 1589 01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:51,840 Speaker 4: the way they did? 1590 01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:53,360 Speaker 3: And the other part Patrick, because he showed me that. 1591 01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:56,760 Speaker 4: Patrick showed me the tape when an officer kicked Tyreek Hill. 1592 01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,080 Speaker 4: That I had not seen before was the aggressiveness at which 1593 01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:02,000 Speaker 4: they went after Kalay's Campbell, right, Like, what are we 1594 01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:03,880 Speaker 4: doing here? When Patrick talks about is the issue is 1595 01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,000 Speaker 4: public safety, He's sitting here saying like, hey, this is 1596 01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:07,880 Speaker 4: my guy. I'm just making sure everything's okay here. I've 1597 01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,840 Speaker 4: seen that I'm making sure everything's okay here. This is 1598 01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:12,400 Speaker 4: one of the most decent human beings you'll ever meet. 1599 01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:16,439 Speaker 4: In clay Is Campbell, shit out up, I'm cuffing you up? Like, 1600 01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:20,440 Speaker 4: what are we doing here? These are four hyper adrenalized 1601 01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:24,080 Speaker 4: at least four hyper generalized police officers in the moment. 1602 01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:27,040 Speaker 3: And we know that police officers have a tough job 1603 01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:29,080 Speaker 3: to do, right that they save lives. 1604 01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:30,920 Speaker 4: There are the first people I'm calling when I'm in trouble, 1605 01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:34,519 Speaker 4: when I'm worried, Right, But this was a situation where 1606 01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,760 Speaker 4: it seemed like okay, once Tyreek did not drop his 1607 01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:40,639 Speaker 4: or lower his window upon the request of the police officer, 1608 01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:42,880 Speaker 4: which Tyreek said, I should have handled that better. 1609 01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,800 Speaker 3: It was hyper adrenaline mode. Let's go. 1610 01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:50,360 Speaker 4: And it is as Tyreek said, what if I wasn't 1611 01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:52,680 Speaker 4: a famous football player, what if these guys didn't have 1612 01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:53,439 Speaker 4: body cams on? 1613 01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:56,439 Speaker 3: You know, it's and. 1614 01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:58,640 Speaker 2: What would happen is what's been happening. 1615 01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:01,080 Speaker 3: For yam of time. We've seen. 1616 01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:03,559 Speaker 4: We saw the young man in Memphis where those police 1617 01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:05,519 Speaker 4: officers would have probably gotten a way fort one for 1618 01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:08,160 Speaker 4: surveillance camera because they turned their cameras off. 1619 01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:12,559 Speaker 3: Any number of incidents happened every single day that we're 1620 01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:14,559 Speaker 3: not going to hear about, correct, and we won't hear about. 1621 01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,120 Speaker 3: And I just I keep coming back because because I 1622 01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:20,599 Speaker 3: understand Tyreek has a particular beef right with the officer 1623 01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:23,360 Speaker 3: who struck him right and the officer who took exception 1624 01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:25,559 Speaker 3: to the speed at which he rolled down his window. 1625 01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:29,160 Speaker 3: But again, every officer that was there, whose job right 1626 01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:33,960 Speaker 3: allegedly is to protect public safety and de escalate situations, 1627 01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:36,880 Speaker 3: was completely fine with the things that happened, completely fine 1628 01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:38,800 Speaker 3: because they allowed it to happen. That's their choice, that's 1629 01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:40,760 Speaker 3: the job they chose, and so if they're going to 1630 01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,320 Speaker 3: do that right and occupy thirty three percent of the 1631 01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:46,920 Speaker 3: City of Miami's budget, maybe they should do it and 1632 01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:47,880 Speaker 3: real quick. 1633 01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,040 Speaker 4: I will say this, and it goes back to the 1634 01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,400 Speaker 4: late Jason Jenkins, who used to be the Dolphins media 1635 01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:54,040 Speaker 4: relations director, a friend of mine and one of the 1636 01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:59,760 Speaker 4: most astute people. The Dolphins have an incredible partnership with 1637 01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:03,280 Speaker 4: police forces in Miami, Miami Gardens this and so it 1638 01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:06,479 Speaker 4: is gonna be interesting to see how this goes. I mean, 1639 01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:08,720 Speaker 4: it is a very very strong tie. I think I've 1640 01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:12,639 Speaker 4: even interviewed the police chief of Miami Gardens as part 1641 01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:15,000 Speaker 4: of a program that the Dolphins had. 1642 01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:16,000 Speaker 3: How does this work. 1643 01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:17,599 Speaker 4: Are the police all of a sudden be like, we're 1644 01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,840 Speaker 4: not gonna help you guys out because we're getting bad 1645 01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:22,800 Speaker 4: mouthed by you because you're talking tough with us. We've 1646 01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:24,680 Speaker 4: seen these threats before. We saw it in Cleveland a 1647 01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:27,559 Speaker 4: couple of years ago. So it's gonna be interesting to see. 1648 01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:32,160 Speaker 4: But hopefully the bigger conversation comes down to please do 1649 01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:34,200 Speaker 4: your job. You don't always have to be as physical 1650 01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:35,519 Speaker 4: and aggressive in doing so. 1651 01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:41,599 Speaker 3: Hopefully right and the outcome here is people who would 1652 01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,200 Speaker 3: have been less safe and less safe in these circumstances. 1653 01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:47,720 Speaker 3: Hopefully people in Miami, in the entire county area will 1654 01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:53,080 Speaker 3: be safer throughout all of this. Maybe maybe, But guys, 1655 01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:57,439 Speaker 3: we have a bird fight on Monday Night football. Kirk 1656 01:13:57,439 --> 01:13:59,599 Speaker 3: Cousins and the Atlanta Falcons get a chance to get 1657 01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:01,280 Speaker 3: back out and get a win. They are six and 1658 01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:05,559 Speaker 3: a half point dogs against Jalen Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles, 1659 01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:09,200 Speaker 3: who got the win last week on Friday Night. Tro 1660 01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:13,759 Speaker 3: Joe Buck, Troy Aikman, and Lisa Salters on the call. Steve, 1661 01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:18,200 Speaker 3: you've you've watched the Kirk o Chains version of Kirk 1662 01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:21,599 Speaker 3: Cousins from from the exception to this point? Or are 1663 01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:23,479 Speaker 3: we going to get better from Kirk Cousins against the 1664 01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:27,439 Speaker 3: Eagles than we did in the loss against the Pittsburgh 1665 01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:29,519 Speaker 3: steel Yeah, they should. He should be better. 1666 01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:31,560 Speaker 4: I mean he's facing a good defense, but not a 1667 01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:34,640 Speaker 4: Steelers defense, right. The Eagles, Yes, they went out and 1668 01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:36,959 Speaker 4: they tried to address their secondary, but it was still vulnerable. 1669 01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,760 Speaker 4: I mean, you saw Jordan Love make plays against this 1670 01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:46,600 Speaker 4: Eagle secondary. So offensively. What drove me crazy watching the 1671 01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:50,080 Speaker 4: game with the Falcons and the Steelers was they were 1672 01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:52,280 Speaker 4: like singing that we're gonna one on one block. 1673 01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:54,200 Speaker 3: TJ. 1674 01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:56,879 Speaker 4: Watt, Well, you better not do that against the Eagles 1675 01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:59,559 Speaker 4: because they're gonna become what we spoke for you. I mean, 1676 01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:01,920 Speaker 4: this is this is a lou Anaumo defense. They're gonna 1677 01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:05,400 Speaker 4: be blitzing, probably a lot more than the Eagles. They've 1678 01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:07,639 Speaker 4: got to do some stuff in the quick passing game, 1679 01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,280 Speaker 4: but it's just got to be a smarter passing attack. 1680 01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:10,680 Speaker 2: It was. 1681 01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:13,040 Speaker 4: It was all over the place. I think what they 1682 01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:14,880 Speaker 4: try to do offensively was all over the place. Maybe 1683 01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:18,640 Speaker 4: condense the playbook. Protect better. I mean, look at that. 1684 01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:21,000 Speaker 4: These are all guys one on one beaters right here upfront. 1685 01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:23,920 Speaker 4: Protect better and you have an opportunity and run the 1686 01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:27,679 Speaker 4: ball better. Okay, we saw the Eagles g get gashed, 1687 01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:30,320 Speaker 4: you know in the run game a little bit sometimes 1688 01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:32,360 Speaker 4: with Josh Jacobs, run the ball a little bit. Better, 1689 01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:35,200 Speaker 4: go go with Bishon and go with Alagi year stay 1690 01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:37,920 Speaker 4: out of some of these situations. But I think I 1691 01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:41,360 Speaker 4: do think Kirk kirk Cousins will look better playing place. 1692 01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:44,120 Speaker 4: He did not look great in that game for a 1693 01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:46,120 Speaker 4: lot of different reasons. But again, the Steelers will do 1694 01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:47,559 Speaker 4: that to a lot of other quarterbacks, right. 1695 01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:51,200 Speaker 1: So I think the Falcons were too confident that their 1696 01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:53,559 Speaker 1: offensive line is just going to win matchups, like they 1697 01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:56,320 Speaker 1: think of themselves as having one of the best offensive 1698 01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:58,200 Speaker 1: lines in the league for good reasons. 1699 01:15:58,240 --> 01:15:59,960 Speaker 2: But this is the new coaching staff. It's a different system. 1700 01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:00,720 Speaker 2: You just never know. 1701 01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:03,400 Speaker 1: And they were going up against maybe the best defensive 1702 01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:05,439 Speaker 1: front in the league, and so they lost those matches. 1703 01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:07,800 Speaker 1: The thing that would concern me more is how they 1704 01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:11,960 Speaker 1: approached the game offensively and what that says about Kirk Cousins. 1705 01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:16,160 Speaker 1: There was not a single play action pass from Kirk 1706 01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:19,600 Speaker 1: Cousins in that game. Thanks so he had been averaging 1707 01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,080 Speaker 1: more than thirty percent of his play He is a 1708 01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:26,280 Speaker 1: guy that gets helped by defining what you can define 1709 01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:29,320 Speaker 1: by doing the play action pass, and that was extraordinarily 1710 01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:31,920 Speaker 1: successful for him when he was with the Vikings, and 1711 01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:34,479 Speaker 1: his numbers when he wasn't doing the play action pass 1712 01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:37,080 Speaker 1: even with the Vikings last year, weren't that great. So 1713 01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:38,759 Speaker 1: how many times did he do it last week? 1714 01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:39,280 Speaker 2: Zero? 1715 01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:43,200 Speaker 1: And you wonder if that's just because he's a mid 1716 01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:47,599 Speaker 1: thirties guy coming off an achilles tear, because the next 1717 01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:50,559 Speaker 1: gen stats number in terms of how much they moved. 1718 01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:51,800 Speaker 2: I didn't know this was even a. 1719 01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:54,599 Speaker 1: Stat some of this stuff they have that they're digging up, 1720 01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,160 Speaker 1: that he moved an average of three point one yards 1721 01:16:57,200 --> 01:17:01,160 Speaker 1: per dropback. It is the least move ment he's ever 1722 01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:03,679 Speaker 1: had in a single game of his whole. 1723 01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:07,160 Speaker 2: Career by more than a yard. And when you watched 1724 01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:08,720 Speaker 2: the couple of times, insane. 1725 01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:12,160 Speaker 1: When you watched a couple of times like he he 1726 01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:14,440 Speaker 1: he just didn't look like a guy who was confident 1727 01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:18,880 Speaker 1: in moving And it's real hard to play quarterback that way. 1728 01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:22,519 Speaker 3: And I guess now that my mind's a little blown 1729 01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:25,720 Speaker 3: by that stat how much of that was the Pittsburgh Steelers. 1730 01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:26,000 Speaker 2: Right, That's the thing. 1731 01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:28,080 Speaker 1: It's like one week you never know, but the whole 1732 01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:30,200 Speaker 1: not no play action and playing out a pistol does 1733 01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:30,960 Speaker 1: not make sense. 1734 01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:36,000 Speaker 3: That's bad. It was bad the time. There was not 1735 01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:38,200 Speaker 3: a lot of out like the you're so used to 1736 01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,840 Speaker 3: saying Kirk hit those inbreaking routes. He's hitting the defenders 1737 01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:44,760 Speaker 3: in the face with those again week one caveat but 1738 01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:48,120 Speaker 3: who was not bad in their debut and saving things 1739 01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:50,120 Speaker 3: on the other side. As we look in the video 1740 01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:53,040 Speaker 3: show of just the passes that he did hit a 1741 01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:56,400 Speaker 3: couple to Drake London and and swinging back across, and 1742 01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:59,679 Speaker 3: there's a pick to Drake London. But the Kellen Moore 1743 01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:04,240 Speaker 3: Philip Delphia Eagles are such a departure where it's like 1744 01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:06,760 Speaker 3: you we talked about Todd Bowles and the Blitz with 1745 01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:10,960 Speaker 3: Hyden Daniels. The Blitz had the Eagles looking morose last 1746 01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:14,240 Speaker 3: year and then in the opener against Green Bay, aside 1747 01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:16,920 Speaker 3: from you know, Jayleen will say that was a bad 1748 01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:20,320 Speaker 3: decision on the interception, right, but they had answers for 1749 01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:24,680 Speaker 3: the Blitz in answers that I don't know if Atlanta 1750 01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:29,200 Speaker 3: right has the past rush capacity to bother the Eagles 1751 01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:30,400 Speaker 3: enough to keep them in. 1752 01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:32,320 Speaker 1: There, though they might want to get a little more aggressive. 1753 01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:34,120 Speaker 1: His numbers were great against the Blitz, and there were 1754 01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:35,880 Speaker 1: a couple of really nice plays, one to god Or 1755 01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:38,599 Speaker 1: I think kal Katara was another one where just quick answers. 1756 01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:40,160 Speaker 1: It was awesome, But they didn't do any of those 1757 01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:43,160 Speaker 1: big blitz. Is that the things that really got that 1758 01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:45,080 Speaker 1: I would still try it. Try to throw to six, 1759 01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:47,120 Speaker 1: try to throw seven, let's see what, let's see what happened. 1760 01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:49,640 Speaker 1: They were just seven five, and I just would be 1761 01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:51,680 Speaker 1: curious to see that, But I don't know if Atlanta 1762 01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:56,160 Speaker 1: has necessarily the horses. Ad Terrell is a great cornerback. 1763 01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:59,640 Speaker 1: He had a tough yeah, tough Week one. Yeah, but 1764 01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:01,840 Speaker 1: gonna have a tough Week one. But that's that's the 1765 01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:04,920 Speaker 1: thing that Egles do against you. They have matchup advantages 1766 01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:06,160 Speaker 1: because their players are awesome. 1767 01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:08,960 Speaker 4: They but the ultimatum advantage of Saquon Barkley. I mean, 1768 01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,040 Speaker 4: you talk about a blitzpeeder when you've got to also 1769 01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:14,680 Speaker 4: keep eyes on Saquon and you have to stop him 1770 01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:17,400 Speaker 4: in the run game, that's an issue, right, And we 1771 01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:21,080 Speaker 4: saw Pittsburgh het some runs against the Falcons and this 1772 01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:24,040 Speaker 4: was a close game, So you know, the six and 1773 01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:27,639 Speaker 4: a half number, yeah, I think that's a pretty big number. 1774 01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:29,240 Speaker 4: I think Atlanta's offense is going to be better. I 1775 01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:32,080 Speaker 4: don't know Philly's gonna be as crisp as they were 1776 01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:35,679 Speaker 4: coming out of the gate. But man, when I watched Philly, 1777 01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:37,960 Speaker 4: I kept saying that if they're gonna keep getting better 1778 01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:41,759 Speaker 4: and better, and this offense is frighteningly scary, especially because 1779 01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:45,280 Speaker 4: the slim reaper Vonte Smithley really really good. 1780 01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:47,439 Speaker 1: On top of it, defense did some good things. Yeah, 1781 01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:49,760 Speaker 1: they do creative stuff their pass rush. I think they 1782 01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:52,640 Speaker 1: want to get more consistent. But Quinjon mitchell I did 1783 01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:54,040 Speaker 1: want to make sure I just mentioned him. 1784 01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:59,240 Speaker 2: He just early, just real, just real positive vibe. 1785 01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:00,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to get over my skis here of 1786 01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:03,439 Speaker 1: like no potential defensive player of the year type of stuff. 1787 01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:06,479 Speaker 1: But it was some real like okay, yeah and that 1788 01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:08,920 Speaker 1: and that backs up some stuff I some buzz i 1789 01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,639 Speaker 1: heard from there that they believe they got a real 1790 01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:12,160 Speaker 1: good one. 1791 01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:15,200 Speaker 3: How he does it again, they let him get away 1792 01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:17,639 Speaker 3: with it. So that's a big number. Six and a half. 1793 01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:20,920 Speaker 3: Let's add a half a point there. The Detroit Lions 1794 01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:24,320 Speaker 3: at home favored over a Tampa Bay Buccaneers team who 1795 01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:26,920 Speaker 3: scored a billion points. It was the Washington Commanders a 1796 01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:30,000 Speaker 3: billion points against the Washington Commanders and opener Baker Mayfield 1797 01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:33,200 Speaker 3: throws four touchdowns. The game is on Fox over under 1798 01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:37,439 Speaker 3: fifty one. Greg. The Detroit Lions at the end of 1799 01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:40,120 Speaker 3: the game against the Rams were like, hey, we're the Lions, 1800 01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:43,000 Speaker 3: We're gonna run you over. It worked out, but seven 1801 01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:44,440 Speaker 3: seven points. 1802 01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:45,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's wild. 1803 01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:47,280 Speaker 1: I'm big on this Bucks team, and I thought the 1804 01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:50,080 Speaker 1: Lions had a pretty uneven performance they did what good 1805 01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:52,200 Speaker 1: teams do, which is maybe win a game where you're 1806 01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:54,920 Speaker 1: not at your best. But I wasn't overly impressed. And 1807 01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:58,120 Speaker 1: the Bucks were at their best last week. And they've 1808 01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:01,200 Speaker 1: got guys who I think can really test this Lion's 1809 01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:04,200 Speaker 1: secondary where Terry an Ardnold, I think he's going to 1810 01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:07,720 Speaker 1: be good. He is aggressive, but had some penalties. They 1811 01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:10,400 Speaker 1: could have issues in the back end because I think 1812 01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:15,120 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers present matchup problems for you. Chris Godwin looks 1813 01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:17,320 Speaker 1: like the old Chris Godwin if the other if that 1814 01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:19,559 Speaker 1: guy ever went away, but after all the injuries he's had, 1815 01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:22,160 Speaker 1: he's back. McMillan, AD's a nice three, and Mike Evans 1816 01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:23,920 Speaker 1: is still Mike Evans. I don't know if Baker is 1817 01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:26,280 Speaker 1: going to be that good week after week, but I 1818 01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:27,840 Speaker 1: think it'll be a competitive game. 1819 01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:28,880 Speaker 2: Like the playoff game. 1820 01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:29,960 Speaker 4: It was a playoff it was it was a one 1821 01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:33,280 Speaker 4: possession game. Again, this number is crazy to me. A 1822 01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:38,320 Speaker 4: seven point game. But yes, Detroit's at home and they 1823 01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:40,679 Speaker 4: had to grind it out against the Rams, a tough 1824 01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:41,960 Speaker 4: opponent who they knew they were going to have to 1825 01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:45,479 Speaker 4: grind it out against. But I think Tampa Bay as 1826 01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:47,840 Speaker 4: we're seeing some of their offensive players. I don't know 1827 01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:51,040 Speaker 4: if Tampa's gonna function this well offensively because they might 1828 01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:53,439 Speaker 4: be playing from behind. You know, they might have to 1829 01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:57,200 Speaker 4: do some things that allow, you know, Detroit a certain way, 1830 01:21:57,240 --> 01:21:59,559 Speaker 4: but Tampa might be playing from ahead and they can 1831 01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:01,759 Speaker 4: they can, you can play a physical style of football. 1832 01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:05,040 Speaker 4: I mean, this is gonna be a really, really tough game, 1833 01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:08,120 Speaker 4: and Todd Bowles is gonna be giving Ben Johnson looks 1834 01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:10,479 Speaker 4: that are gonna really this is gonna be a great 1835 01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:12,800 Speaker 4: chess match. I think some of the personnel groupings that 1836 01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:16,559 Speaker 4: Detroit's gonna use will probably end up winning some series 1837 01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:18,400 Speaker 4: for them. But I think the same thing could be 1838 01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:21,040 Speaker 4: said about some of the personnel groupings that the Buccaneers 1839 01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:23,599 Speaker 4: will be used defensively and slowing down this offense. 1840 01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:25,880 Speaker 1: I think the concern is that Antone Winfield is out 1841 01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:28,000 Speaker 1: of this game. You You've had a couple injuries in 1842 01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:29,639 Speaker 1: the back end, you have a couple injuries in the front. 1843 01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:35,080 Speaker 1: So they are missing somewhere between three to five starters total, 1844 01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,519 Speaker 1: and with a at least two to three in the secondary. 1845 01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:38,720 Speaker 2: That's worrisome against the wab Oh. 1846 01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:41,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, and just losing arguably one of your best players. 1847 01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:44,400 Speaker 3: I mean, mirk Evans. I agree with Kyle Brantz take 1848 01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:46,360 Speaker 3: the He's probably one of the best bucks to ever 1849 01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:49,360 Speaker 3: wear a buccaneer, you know. But Antoine Winfield Junior at 1850 01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:51,680 Speaker 3: this point is one of the better defenders in the 1851 01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:56,040 Speaker 3: entire NFL. That makes sense. But again, like we all agree, 1852 01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:59,479 Speaker 3: seven points, it feels feels like a lot. I do 1853 01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:03,200 Speaker 3: like the emergence where Jamis and Williams has felt like, yeah, 1854 01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:06,960 Speaker 3: window dressing, like decoration in this offense, and now he's 1855 01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:10,160 Speaker 3: like a part of the foundation of the house where 1856 01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:12,800 Speaker 3: he gets all these targets. He had the stopping go 1857 01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:15,840 Speaker 3: on tre Davius White for the for the touchdown, he 1858 01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:18,519 Speaker 3: gets hurt, comes back in the game, kind of guts 1859 01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:21,000 Speaker 3: it out and gets a game ball. I like what 1860 01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:24,840 Speaker 3: I see there, But I'm gonna need Jared to be 1861 01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:26,560 Speaker 3: a little more comfortable in the pocket. He seemed like 1862 01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:29,360 Speaker 3: the Rams pass rush was bothering him through stretches of 1863 01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:33,639 Speaker 3: that game and had some inaccuracies that I wasn't used 1864 01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,760 Speaker 3: to seeing from Jared Goff in the opener. But maybe 1865 01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:38,440 Speaker 3: week one we wiped that away and maybe they surpassed 1866 01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:39,559 Speaker 3: the seven points. Who knows. 1867 01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:39,800 Speaker 2: I know. 1868 01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:43,120 Speaker 1: Now I'm suddenly thinking this matchup just he'll be protected better. 1869 01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:45,320 Speaker 1: I'm always worried about a team that, like they played 1870 01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:47,439 Speaker 1: poor one week, but they won Anyways, usually they play 1871 01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:49,000 Speaker 1: better than next week. Like maybe you get the A 1872 01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:51,479 Speaker 1: minus A version of the Lions this week, and you're 1873 01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:52,200 Speaker 1: gonna have to deal. 1874 01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:54,040 Speaker 4: With it and you're gonna see as fantastic as Dave 1875 01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:55,679 Speaker 4: Montgomery was in that open. 1876 01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:57,400 Speaker 3: I think Jimmy or Gibbs played bigger role in a 1877 01:23:57,439 --> 01:24:01,720 Speaker 3: game like this. Spectacular play. Love it. I'm looking forward 1878 01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:05,000 Speaker 3: to that matchup. Bringing us to our final game. The 1879 01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:10,040 Speaker 3: biggest number of the week nine points Steve Grief nine 1880 01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:12,559 Speaker 3: points the Las Vegas Raiders going into M and T 1881 01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:15,839 Speaker 3: Bank Stadium against Lamar Jackson, who was back at practice 1882 01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:19,000 Speaker 3: on Wednesday's. He sat out earlier in the week due 1883 01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:21,840 Speaker 3: to some soreness because he went super hard. We talked 1884 01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:25,080 Speaker 3: about four hundred combined yard against the Kansas City Chiefs. 1885 01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:30,000 Speaker 3: Lamar's back and the Raiders again after getting gashed by 1886 01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:32,639 Speaker 3: former Raven JK. Dobbins, have to take on the King. 1887 01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:37,120 Speaker 4: Steve, Yeah, I'll be at this game on Sunday, but 1888 01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:38,559 Speaker 4: I'm I'm saying I'll be at the game. 1889 01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:41,439 Speaker 3: Well, let anybody know he's a million miler, multiple airlines. 1890 01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:45,000 Speaker 4: But this number actually doesn't look contained to me, just 1891 01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:47,760 Speaker 4: because the Ravens have so many things they can clean 1892 01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:50,360 Speaker 4: up on defense. Again, they really got out schemed and 1893 01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:52,680 Speaker 4: not coach, and they're gonna tighten it up. You know, 1894 01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:55,040 Speaker 4: with some of the matchups that did Andy Reeves scheming 1895 01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:58,240 Speaker 4: up against their linebackers, and Las Vegas just doesn't have 1896 01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:02,640 Speaker 4: the guys right. They've got Davonte, but other than that, offensively, 1897 01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:05,120 Speaker 4: there's no one you have. The two tight end stuff 1898 01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:07,320 Speaker 4: to the Ravens aren't familiar with two tight end stuff. 1899 01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:09,000 Speaker 3: I would work with that. I mean, that's all they. 1900 01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:09,960 Speaker 2: Rock powers look good. 1901 01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:12,360 Speaker 4: Look but I'm just saying that's all. They run, two 1902 01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:14,320 Speaker 4: tight end stuff. They know they're going to practice the 1903 01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:17,280 Speaker 4: hell out of this. They're gonna have some answers for 1904 01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:19,599 Speaker 4: the two tight end stuff that the Ravens that the 1905 01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:22,439 Speaker 4: Raiders are going to do. So, you know, IA think 1906 01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:25,160 Speaker 4: Baltimore's defense is going to look so much better than 1907 01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:27,080 Speaker 4: this game. Lamar is not gonna have to do as much. 1908 01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:29,920 Speaker 4: They're gonna be able to run the ball a little 1909 01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:31,439 Speaker 4: bit better. With Dereck Henry. That's one thing that was 1910 01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:33,040 Speaker 4: driving me crazy in the game. I mean, it was 1911 01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:34,559 Speaker 4: a tight game and they just got they just got 1912 01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:37,320 Speaker 4: away from Derrick Henry. They start playing horizontal football. 1913 01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:41,439 Speaker 1: Well, I just think they're gonna figure out over the 1914 01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:44,040 Speaker 1: course of the season how to construct the running game 1915 01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:46,839 Speaker 1: out of Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry, and they haven't 1916 01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:50,920 Speaker 1: yet because that's you know, Derrick Henry just makes more 1917 01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:53,280 Speaker 1: sense of it as an under center runner, but Lamar 1918 01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:56,840 Speaker 1: Jackson in shotgun and you can certainly they're smart, they're 1919 01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:59,400 Speaker 1: great players, they're good coaches. They can figure out how 1920 01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:01,960 Speaker 1: to marry it up up. But it felt like almost 1921 01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:04,920 Speaker 1: like two different types of offenses. And when Justice Hill 1922 01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:07,360 Speaker 1: was out there, that almost looked to me more like 1923 01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:08,679 Speaker 1: the Ravens offense. 1924 01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:10,320 Speaker 2: And I was surprised. 1925 01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:11,720 Speaker 1: And I know they were trailing in that game, but 1926 01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:14,040 Speaker 1: Justice Hill played a little more than Derrick Henry. 1927 01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:16,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, because they were throwing the ball around a little 1928 01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:17,880 Speaker 4: bit more. You know, two things. That's first off, that's 1929 01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:19,840 Speaker 4: a great point because I was talking to people before 1930 01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:22,600 Speaker 4: that game with the Chiefs and they said that shotgun 1931 01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:25,400 Speaker 4: style is different for Derrick Henry. We saw it when 1932 01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:27,400 Speaker 4: Deshaun Watson first went to Cleveland, they wanted to go 1933 01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:29,639 Speaker 4: under center. He's like, I want to go to Shotgun. 1934 01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:32,760 Speaker 4: It really was an odd marriage of what they wanted 1935 01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:35,000 Speaker 4: to do with the run game and also, and it 1936 01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:39,000 Speaker 4: got talked about a lot, maybe not enough, those illegal 1937 01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:42,960 Speaker 4: formation penalties that kept getting called on Ronnie Stanley. It 1938 01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:46,519 Speaker 4: really bothered Stanley in the offensive play, so maybe that 1939 01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:47,960 Speaker 4: it hampered their effectiveness. 1940 01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:49,080 Speaker 3: They're going to make up. 1941 01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:51,040 Speaker 4: I'm sure it's a point of emphasis for the Ravens 1942 01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:53,320 Speaker 4: this week to get it right, and I think that 1943 01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:55,200 Speaker 4: offensive line is gonna play better as a result. 1944 01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:58,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think considering Max Crosby and the problems that 1945 01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:02,000 Speaker 3: he can create, we're gonna see more pistol this week 1946 01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:04,759 Speaker 3: from from Monkin, and it kind of gets halfway between 1947 01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:08,000 Speaker 3: those issues because we saw that in Tennessee sometimes where 1948 01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:11,440 Speaker 3: Tannehills and Shotgun and Derek Henry's getting these slow handoffs 1949 01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:13,840 Speaker 3: and at that point in his career he's making it work. 1950 01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:17,120 Speaker 3: He does need to be a little more uh linear 1951 01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:19,840 Speaker 3: up and down the field in order to get things 1952 01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:24,960 Speaker 3: going now, but it's I'm I'm not taking the Ravens 1953 01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:26,719 Speaker 3: to to cover this nine points. 1954 01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:29,799 Speaker 2: Wow, I just there's some things that you're mister raven 1955 01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:30,439 Speaker 2: I am. 1956 01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:35,400 Speaker 3: I've seen this team come in and have some some 1957 01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:40,280 Speaker 3: weird circumstances take place, and Gardner Minshew going into imman 1958 01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:43,000 Speaker 3: Ted Bank Stadium and having like a weird career game. 1959 01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:44,320 Speaker 2: This is some fans stuff. 1960 01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:47,600 Speaker 1: Usually Patrick's not giving the fans, but he's talking like 1961 01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:49,080 Speaker 1: almost like a Ravens fan. 1962 01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:50,559 Speaker 2: That's too skeptical. I saw. 1963 01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:53,040 Speaker 1: I'm not skeptical at all. I'm picking them as my 1964 01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:55,559 Speaker 1: Survivor pick. By the way, I don't know if we 1965 01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:59,679 Speaker 1: even are continuing this. Put play the music. Patrick took 1966 01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:03,080 Speaker 1: this Inincinnati Bengals last week. We only had the two 1967 01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:06,800 Speaker 1: of us in the studio at the time. I took 1968 01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:09,320 Speaker 1: the Bills, who made me sweat it out a little bit. 1969 01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:11,479 Speaker 1: They could have called that penalty on Deamar Hamlin at 1970 01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:13,479 Speaker 1: the end that I might have been out too. But 1971 01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:16,080 Speaker 1: the Bills survived and I'm taking the Ravens. I'm not 1972 01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:20,240 Speaker 1: overthinking it. When you play Survivor, don't overthink it. Because 1973 01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:22,400 Speaker 1: I was thinking Texans this week and I'm looking at 1974 01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:25,320 Speaker 1: future schedules. No, just take the game that would shock 1975 01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:28,679 Speaker 1: you the most. Take the real favorite, and I don't 1976 01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:29,479 Speaker 1: agree with you at all. 1977 01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:31,880 Speaker 2: I think it's twenty six to nine. 1978 01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:34,960 Speaker 1: It's kind of a boring game actually, where they just 1979 01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:36,320 Speaker 1: put him to sleep. 1980 01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:38,360 Speaker 2: And Steve, since you weren't here last week. 1981 01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:39,880 Speaker 3: I can't believe it, let him do a week two? 1982 01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:44,200 Speaker 2: Should we should we let let's ask the back? Should yeah? 1983 01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:44,479 Speaker 3: Eric? 1984 01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:46,960 Speaker 2: Should we let Steven and take a survivor pack? 1985 01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:47,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1986 01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:49,320 Speaker 1: Because I mean, this is a week season long bit 1987 01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:52,040 Speaker 1: that died in week one night happy? Would it be 1988 01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:54,760 Speaker 1: a funny bit if I'm just spiking the football for 1989 01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:57,439 Speaker 1: sixteen straight week? Because if you just ride with my picks, 1990 01:28:57,439 --> 01:29:01,120 Speaker 1: if you're listening out there, I'm gonna take you, uh 1991 01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:03,840 Speaker 1: to a whole lot of victory, a lot of us. 1992 01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:05,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna survive on the island. But I'll let you 1993 01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:07,240 Speaker 1: play too, Steve, you can jump in. 1994 01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:10,479 Speaker 3: He at the home. Okay, so we're going with Houston. 1995 01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:12,800 Speaker 2: Okay, play the music. We're letting Steve go in week dude? 1996 01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:17,720 Speaker 2: Why not? Sorry? Sorry Patrick to me about bending the rules. 1997 01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:21,800 Speaker 3: I deserve it. I'm out. Jeff Probes has extinguished Mark Flint. 1998 01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:25,840 Speaker 1: It was a blast going over all these games with 1999 01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:26,439 Speaker 1: you both. 2000 01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:27,519 Speaker 2: In Week two? 2001 01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:30,439 Speaker 1: Why don't we do it each and every week this season, 2002 01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:33,479 Speaker 1: except for when Steve goes and covers overseas. 2003 01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:34,960 Speaker 2: I'm just saying I will be. 2004 01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:36,599 Speaker 1: You are a big time I'll join you for one 2005 01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:40,960 Speaker 1: of those. I really enjoyed doing it today. Yes, we're 2006 01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:44,200 Speaker 1: doing the Ravens for the Survivor, and then we're gonna 2007 01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:47,280 Speaker 1: be doing Thursday Night recap and my picks with Cynthia 2008 01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:48,759 Speaker 1: coming up later this week. 2009 01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:51,040 Speaker 2: We'll see then football's back.