1 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. He is radio hit 3 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: broadcasting live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 4 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Have No Your hosts Tyler Klutz, Christie Scales, 5 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: and Brad Sham Defer, we defer. Wait, I'm Walter Anderson. 6 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: I did not hear, so after the show you want 7 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: it right, we do? Well. Um, first of all, I'm 8 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: I'm very glad that I heard Babe Laffenberg and Tyler 9 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: Klutz talking late in the week about the fact that 10 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: the Cowboys would probably beat the Rams by three touchdowns 11 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: at least. He totally called it way to go. Tomasan 12 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 1: just yeah, check my my Space. It was on there. Yeah. So, 13 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: and then I'm just going to presume if you are 14 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: tuned into this podcast, whenever you're tuned into it, that 15 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: you're aware of the kerfuffle over the opening coin flip, 16 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: which is just perfect for the way their season has gone, 17 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:26,199 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. But just to recap for a moment, because 18 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: Christy is still a little exercised about the whole thing, 19 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: which exercise very amusing. So we always on the radio broadcast, 20 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: Kerry the coin flip and sometimes depending on what's said, 21 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: I'll throw a little comment in and sometimes not. And 22 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: I think that the we were a tick late getting 23 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: the audio turned up for me to hear the whole thing, 24 00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: but I knew that the Rams were the visiting team. 25 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: They called to flip and I heard wald Anderson said 26 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: was whatever the opposite was. And then the next thing 27 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: I thought I heard was Dak Prescott saying something that 28 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: I didn't make sense because it sounded like defer. Why 29 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: would he pronounce he knows how to pronounce it, but 30 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 1: he was apparently saying defense. And only later then did 31 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: we find out that. But I knew right away as 32 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: soon as I heard him say we want to kick off, 33 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: we want to be on defense. And I then said, no, no, 34 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: you don't want to was going off at that point 35 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: because if you say that, then they're going to get 36 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: their choice in the second half. Yes, And you can 37 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: see the video here, and you know, nobody knew what 38 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: was going on. And then to be totally tickled this 39 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: morning to read that DeMarcus Lawrence took it and that 40 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: was not the instruction. The instruction from the bench, apparently, 41 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: Christy was take the ball. Yes, that's right, and so 42 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: which I also don't like. You mess up the coin toss, 43 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: which is the easiest thing to do, You mess up 44 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: the opening kickoff, and you blow out the Rams forty 45 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: four to twenty one. And they got two garbage touchdowns 46 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: at the end the Rams did. It was even more 47 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: lopsided than that. But Tyler, have you ever been in 48 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: a situation in a game where you are you come 49 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: out from halftime, from gathering together with your coaches and teammates, 50 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: you come back on the field and you don't know 51 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: who's going to get the ball because that's what happened yesterday. 52 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: Has that ever happened to you? Yes? Yeah, so I 53 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: think the year was nineteen ninety nine. That was a 54 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: Turkey Bowl in Clovis, California, and we took a little 55 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: break and we couldn't decide who was going to get 56 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: the ball. But that was literally the only outside I 57 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: was playing my uncle, my buddy's uncle. Oh so yeah, 58 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: it's a couple of kids involved literally were No. It 59 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: was literally like the Thanksgiving turkey ball that you play 60 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: with your family. So I've never been a part of 61 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: an organized game where you don't know what it is. 62 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: The only thing I can think of it like somewhat 63 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: relates to this, is that whole coin flip fiasco, right, 64 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 1: Like what did you call? I thought you said heads 65 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: or I thought you said tales like that, that would 66 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: be the only thing that I've ever seen remotely because 67 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: you know what it is, right, and your game plan 68 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: through the first half has influence based off of what 69 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: happens in the second. And that's why this is outrageous 70 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: to me because now it ended up everyone's kind of 71 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: laughing about what happened with it might not be left. 72 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. So just with a minute and 73 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: a half to go in the first half, Shaan Lee 74 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: intercepts the ball, sets up the Zeke Elliott second touchdown 75 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: of the first half. The Cowboys have a big lead 76 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: going into halftime. But if Lee had not gotten that interception, 77 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: if the Rams had gone on a drive and scored, 78 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: would have been a one possession game going into the 79 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: second half. And so this is huge and nobody knew 80 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: who was getting the ball and what happened was Walter 81 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: Anderson the referee, conferred with Al Riveron, the director of 82 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: officiating in the league offices in New York. This is 83 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: the guy who determines like the replay stuff and all 84 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: of the controversy that has happened this year with pass 85 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: interference or not pass, all of that. That's Al Riveron 86 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: and he's the one that corrected the mistake, that tried 87 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: to get everything under control. But he waited until halftime. Yeah. See, 88 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: that's crazy to me that you wouldn't say if there's 89 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: any uncertainty, because it's such a pivotal point in the 90 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: game in the direction of what is hold on, hold on, 91 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: stop or I'm gonna walk over the sideline and I'm 92 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: going to confirm, but I'm also going to repeat back 93 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: the exacts. Okay, the Cowboys have chosen to defer, and 94 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: they will be kicking off in the first half. Rams, 95 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: you will be receiving from this end zone. I mean, 96 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: and that's pretty standard. They do this, remember, like back 97 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: in the day, instead of just calling it and running off, 98 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: you switch sides. The referee will tap him on the 99 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: shoulder and he'll say he's receiving. I mean, it's very 100 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: clearly stated. And so just how quickly they ran through this, 101 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: and you know, Dak and DeMarcus are like, oh, we 102 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: want we want to want to be on defense. We 103 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: want to defense, all right, we'll see it. And then 104 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: ran off. And then but the referee's job, well, he 105 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: did say we defer, but it was after he said 106 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: but it was after it was too Anderson did not 107 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: hear we defer, right right, And that's what I'm saying. 108 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: If I was the Rams at that point, I'd be 109 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: jumping up and down. Yeah, for all of this. Right, 110 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Hold on a minute. You can't let 111 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: him defer after he said defense. So here's what happens 112 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: with the Rams. We're a couple of possessions into the game. 113 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: It is early in the first quarter, and Aaron Andrews, 114 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: who's on the sideline obviously for Fox. We've been buddies 115 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: a long time. We share information all the time. She 116 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: comes up to me and she's like, you know about 117 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: the coin toss. I'm like, yeah, we got the audio. 118 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: Who she says, Sean McVeigh just asked me who's getting 119 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: the ball to start the second half? She says, I asked, 120 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: I asked Byron Boston. He's the line judge. Byron Boston 121 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: said the Rams get it because the Cowboys elected to kick. 122 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: We're in the first quarter, okay, and there and so 123 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: she comes back. I said, we we have the audio. 124 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: That's true, and she says to me, now she's talking 125 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: about the Fox crew in the production truck they had 126 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: in I believe she said the stick microphone. So the 127 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: one that's out there when they're gathered at midfield for 128 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: the coin toss. They're going through trying to find the audio. 129 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: We don't know yet or they haven't heard whether he 130 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: said if we defer, meaning dak So it's going, it's going, 131 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: it's going. They go into halftime, The Rams go into 132 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: halftime thinking they're going to get the ball. We've been 133 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: talking about it on Cowboy's Radio the whole time, as 134 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: I thought Baby was going to hit me at one 135 00:07:58,360 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: point he was sick of talking about it. But you 136 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: and I understood that they didn't. It wasn't clear. There's 137 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: a lot and there's a lot writing on that. And 138 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: so it was as Walter Anderson and the officiating crew walk, 139 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: they go to that would be the southwest tunnel to 140 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: in the corner of the end zone. They're going up 141 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: the tunnel to take their break. They've got a locker 142 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: room up that direction, and I asked Walter Anderson, who 143 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: is getting the ball to start the second half. We're 144 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: unclear on what happenes. My favorite, this is my favorite 145 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: part of the whole day, he says to me. I 146 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: can't comment. That's my favorite part of the whole day. 147 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: I can't comment. Now, that's actually not unusual, still in negotiations. 148 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. At this point he doesn't know that. 149 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: He doesn't know really either, because Al Riveron has waited 150 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: until halftime to talk to confer with Walt Anderson. So okay, 151 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: now here's what happens at halftime. The players leave the 152 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: field and the referee in the Ukraine, I can't comment. Well, 153 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: Walt punches out. So what he does is the referee 154 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: just like when you have a time out, he waves 155 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: his arm over his head and then he punches out. 156 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: And when he gives that signal, the punching out signal, 157 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: that's when the time keeping starts. The clock starts, either 158 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: to countdown a commercial break or to countdown halftime. Thirteen 159 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 1: minutes on the clock. Punch out. Anderson heads up towards 160 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: the tunnel along with the officiating crew. Now we're at 161 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: the two minute mark. There's two minutes left in halftime. 162 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: We're about eleven minutes later, so a lot of the 163 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: Cowboys are back in the bench area. I'm at the 164 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 1: tunnel because I want to talk to the officiating crew. 165 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: Gary Brown, the running backs coach for the Cowboys, is 166 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 1: the first offensive coach out of the tunnel. I ask Gary, 167 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: are we getting the ball to start the second half? 168 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: He says, I don't know. I said, how can you 169 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: not know? He says, we don't know. Gary keeps walking. 170 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: Several seconds later, here comes Kellen Moore, the offensive coordinator, who, 171 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: by the way, calls the place. Kellen, I asked, what's 172 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: up we getting the ball to start the second half? 173 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: We don't know? Wow? Is as I think they were 174 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: supposed to talk at halftime. And just then we turn 175 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: and we look and they're in front of that, just 176 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: in front of the Cowboys bench at the fifty yard line, 177 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: one of the offensive team captains, Zack Martin, is talking 178 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: with Walt Anderson. Jason Garrett joined them, and at that 179 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 1: point we see a signal of a five dollar bill 180 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: being exchanged. And then and at that point I looked 181 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: up at the countdown clock and there was a minute 182 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: and thirty seconds left in halftime. Wow. And I learned 183 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: I didn't learn until this morning that Sean McVay said 184 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: that they learned a little earlier in halftime that that 185 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 1: they weren't getting the ball. You couldn't make it up. No, 186 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: you couldn't make it up. It's professional football. And for 187 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: those of you that we're listening to the radio cast 188 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: and listening to Brad and Christy and Babe over the game, 189 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: I mean that sequence of events on the coin flip 190 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: and then the kickoff. I mean, if you're a fan, 191 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, here we go, here we go, and 192 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: you could just hear it and Brad's voice it was 193 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: just like the ultimate just like, guys, my emotions very 194 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: well is going on here. And poor Kai for Bath, 195 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: the new kicker, his head just went down. There was 196 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: just like Charlie Brown after Lucy rips, you know, more 197 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: time good for him. I mean outside of the last kickoff, 198 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: but at that point the game had been won and 199 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: you know you could start to smirk about it. I 200 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't say you were allowed to have an all out laugh, 201 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: but um, but he rebounded I mean three three huge 202 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: field goals and was consistent and to be able to 203 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: just to put that behind him, you know, like Hey, 204 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: welcome to Dallas. But I was kind of angry at 205 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: myself because it just kind of got by. I knew 206 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: that he'd only kicked in one game for one team 207 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: this year, and he'd only kicked a few games last year, 208 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: but I had it just went through my brain pan 209 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: to check with him on have you kicked off? Because 210 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: a lot of teams have their punters kickoff, including New 211 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: England where he was for the one game, So that means, 212 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: what has been three years since you kicked off live 213 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: in a game? Live in a game? And he said 214 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: later on the postgame TV show, I said, you know, congratulations, 215 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: nice win. The hell happened to the first kickoff? And 216 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: he said, I think I was too excited. Yeah, I 217 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: was just all pumped up. But it would it's he 218 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: might not have kicked off for three years. Yeah, well, 219 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: I know, you know, I know he practiced kicking off 220 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: at UCLA. He lives in Santa but you know where 221 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: he works out. But that's not just totally different, right 222 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: from a kicker's mentality, Right, the mechanics have to be 223 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: the same, very every single time you go and kick. 224 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: And I lived with the kicker through college, and I 225 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: mean this kicker was a different breed. I mean, he 226 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: was like a four hundred bench press so many of 227 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: them are, but I mean different from the rest where 228 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: I mean he was a monster. But it's so important 229 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: to them in mechanics and the mindset. If you are 230 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: wound up at all and your mechanics are short, or 231 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: or you're too fast or you're too slow. I mean, 232 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: there's so many things that play into it. And if 233 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 1: you're off a little bit and your steps are off, 234 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: because think about how how meticulously they measure their steps 235 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: on field goals and kickoffs. It's the exact same every 236 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: single time. And if you're off just a little bit 237 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: and your first step you're too excited, is too big, 238 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: it throws the whole thing off. And so I get it. 239 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: I totally get its second because I want people to 240 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: understand the ramifications of it throws the whole things off 241 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: because you've played on kickoff teams, yeah, most of your life, 242 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: right yep. So even today with the touchback rules what 243 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: they are, and you know you have to stand on 244 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: one foot with a handkerchief in your left ear, and 245 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: you know nobody can do what they used to do, 246 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: but you're told this is a kickoff. This is a 247 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: right return, right, We're we want we are positioning people 248 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: in the kickoff team to funnel them to a certain 249 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: place if the ball is short or we want to 250 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: kick it short or only the players on the kickoff 251 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: team though, so and just tell me if I'm right 252 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: when you say it throws everything off. You guys know 253 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: what the return is. And if the kicker missteps, miss hits, 254 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: then everybody is doing one thing and the ball might 255 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: be going somewhere else. And that's when you get one 256 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: run right back down your throat. That's right. And so yeah, 257 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: to your point, right, there's a level of trust on 258 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: that kickoff unit, and that ball has to be It's 259 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: not like, oh, hey kick it to the left side. No, 260 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: it's like on the numbers five yards deep that's where 261 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: you need to put the ball, or hey, this kickoff, 262 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: we're actually going to drop it in on the number 263 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: on the fifteen yard line because we know there's a gap. 264 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: So from a kickoff coverage unit, what it does is okay. 265 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: So there's generally you know, left kick, middle kick, right kick, skykick, 266 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: you know, both ways, and then there's deep and then 267 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: there's there's other levels of it and what you do 268 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: is your coverage and the point of kicking it to 269 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: a side right is now you're forcing the return team 270 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: into being a one dimensional team because you're saying, we're 271 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: going to kick it to the left, We're not going 272 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: to let you bring it back to our right based 273 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: off of our coverage and our lanes that we've got 274 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: to go down and cover. We're forcing you into one thing. No. 275 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: On the other side of the ball, the kickoff return 276 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: team is like, okay, we know if you're going to 277 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: kick it here every single time that this is how 278 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: we're going to design a return off of that. But 279 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: the trust level so it's not like field goals where 280 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: everyone's like, Okay, you gotta be perfect. You're got to 281 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: be exact. It's exact on kickoffs. It has to be 282 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: in the same place every time because you are building 283 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: a coverage unit based off of where that kick. Is 284 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: same with punters. When punters, when you see where they're 285 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: going the coverage and you see the releases from the gunners, 286 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: which is like what the receivers are the gunners where 287 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: they release, you could tell where he's kicking the ball, 288 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: so you know exactly where he's kicking it because the 289 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: coverage is dictated off of where they're kicking it, so 290 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: it's not just going out and just swinging as hard 291 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: as he can. I got a tremendous education two weeks 292 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: ago from Justin March, the Cowboys linebacker Christy you can 293 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: correct me. I think he's either one or two in 294 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: special teams taxes and an offseason award winner again this year. 295 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: And he went through for me what because they were 296 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: getting ready to play Quodurel Patterson, who is by far 297 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: the most proteanous reductive kickoff returner in the league this year, 298 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: And so he was explaining to me how they would 299 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: have been switching they the number four position on the 300 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: kickoff team right and left. Turns out to be you're 301 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: probably your fastest most safety generally, like that's what like 302 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: Jeff Heath for a lot of time he would play. 303 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: So March has been playing in one of them, and CJ. Goodwin, 304 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: who they consider their best tackler and special teams player 305 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: on the other one. And so if people had been 306 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: designing their kickoff return I know this is so esoteric, 307 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: but games swing on these things. People have been designing 308 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 1: their return teams to try to run Goodwin out of 309 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: the play. So they the Cowboys had been working on 310 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: switching Goodwin in March from one side to the other, 311 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: with the idea being to get mostly Goodwin and then 312 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: March freed up and off what they thought the blocking 313 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: scheme would be. And if the ball is not hit 314 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: the way you practiced all week for whatever reason you 315 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: got the only gauge that you have on a coverage 316 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: unit is where the returner is right. So that's the 317 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: only you can't see the ball while you're running down 318 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: the field. It's a level of trust saying Okay, he's 319 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: gonna put it where I before the kick have decided 320 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: lane is going to be based off of the kick. 321 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: So whether you're running down the numbers, whether you're switching 322 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: with a guy and going from the numbers to the 323 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: hash and now the hashes, you're lane like, there are 324 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: landmarks on the field that you have to run down 325 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: and cover based off of where you're expecting that ball 326 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: to hit. So you hear special teams coaches lose it 327 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: on kickers and punters if they mishit it because if 328 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,719 Speaker 1: you've got your entire let's just use punt. For example, 329 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: if You've got your entire coverage unit going deep right 330 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,479 Speaker 1: and he mishits it to the left. You cannot have 331 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: lane integrity as you come back to the other side. 332 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: Now you're chasing the play, and so it's a huge 333 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,239 Speaker 1: deal for these guys. But yeah, you're exactly right. I mean, 334 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 1: all those returns are dictated on the two cover guys 335 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: that are the most dangerous, and they're going to change 336 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: up the scheme to try to take those guys out 337 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: of it. And the other wrinkle, actually a few wrinkles 338 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: yesterday with special teams is the injuries Luke Gifford, who's 339 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: been playing special teams. He has not had any defensive 340 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: snaps this season. He's the rookie linebacker from Nebraska who 341 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: suffered a broken for three season and over fifty snaps 342 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: on special teams in five games. He suffers a fractured 343 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: left forearm early in the first quarter. It was actually 344 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: on the ram second possession they punted with a little 345 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,479 Speaker 1: over eight minutes to go, sorry, a little under ten 346 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: minutes to go in the first quarter. Luke Gifford suffers 347 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: fractured forearm. Key guy on special teams now his role 348 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: Joe Thomas, the linebacker, huge role on special teams all year. 349 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: He's out with a knee injury. Chris Covington, who's been 350 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: on your practice squad all year, who got promoted on Saturday. 351 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: He's playing special teams in a game for the first 352 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: time this year. And they've been they've been switching, they moved, 353 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: They did some more movement with Ventell Bryant this week, who, 354 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: by the way, heard his knee in practice on Friday. 355 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 1: They weren't sure if he was going to play. Oh yeah, 356 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: and you have a new kicker who probably hadn't kicked 357 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: off for a few years. So other than that, how 358 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: did you enjoy them? So now on the show, we've 359 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: made it through the first two minutes the game. Yes, 360 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: may I tell one more story though? And this has 361 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: to do because we mentioned CJ Goodwin. Yes, okay, CJ Goodwin. 362 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: I just want Cowboys Nation to know how much this 363 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: player is appreciated among teammates and coaching staff and others 364 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: in the league as one of the really great coverage 365 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: men in the NFL and as a flyer. Okays, he's 366 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 1: got a lot of respect among his teammates. But I 367 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: finished writing a feature that's going to be in the 368 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: game day program for the final regular season home game 369 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,719 Speaker 1: against Washington, And it has to do with how you 370 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: get your shot in the league. Now, Tyler plays at 371 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: Fresno State and then he plays in Arena League in 372 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: Canada and the United Football League, and you know, so 373 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: everybody's got a story, but I've never met a player 374 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: whose story of getting to the NFL has to do 375 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: with shoveling Kalmanore. And that is how CJ. Goodwin literally 376 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: shoveled Blank to help get to the NFL. So CJ. 377 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,239 Speaker 1: Goodwin is from Wheeling, West Virginia, which is about an 378 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 1: hour's ride from Pittsburgh. It's basically kind of like a 379 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh market kind of place and team. And CJ. Goodwin 380 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: was a great basketball player in high school and he 381 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: played Division three and then Division two college basketball. But 382 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: he was school teammates with the son of Mel Blunt. 383 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 1: Mel Blunt, who was named to the NFL's All Time 384 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: one hundred Great Team, one of the greatest cornerbacks in 385 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: NFL history, obviously, and Mel has a working farm that 386 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: does like youth things, youth programs. It's sort of like 387 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: a happy Hill farm almost, except that kids don't live there. 388 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: So CJ. Goodwin gets hired by mel Blunt as a 389 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: teenager to work on mel Blunt's farm, literally shoveling kalmaneure 390 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: and mucking the horse stalls because mel Blunt breaks horses 391 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: and trains. He gets he gets promoted. CJ does to 392 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: working with the kids because they do all these mentoring 393 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: and educational programs, so he's working his way up. He 394 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: continues to work for mel Blunt all through high school 395 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: and college and then uh, CJ only plays. He switches 396 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: from basketball to college football his senior year, plays wide receiver. 397 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: Long story short. Mel Blunt says, you know what you 398 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: do well this year, and I will make a call 399 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,239 Speaker 1: to the Steelers for you and mel Blunt all the 400 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: good graces that he has as a Steeler's legend. Only 401 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 1: once as he ever picked up the phone call and 402 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: picked up the phone and asked for a favor, to 403 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: ask for a tryout, and it was for CJ. Good one. 404 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: And it's because not only you know, obviously CJ's work ethic, 405 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: but his high character. And that's how CJ. Goodwin got 406 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: a shot in the NFL. And it goes back to 407 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: the time that he was mu mucking horse stalls and 408 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: shoveling calmaneure for a legendary Pittsburgh steel You had Cush 409 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: saying no really though, like he was, you had you 410 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: were on easy straight. You just didn't know it. I 411 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: was selling pumpkins, but he was. He was literally, wow, 412 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,239 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. That's that's incredible. But you know what, 413 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,479 Speaker 1: the reason it translates to the field, right, You can 414 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: see when a guy appreciates where he's at and loves it. 415 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: And and not to say not to say that, you know, 416 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,719 Speaker 1: guys that are first round picks don't deserve it, or 417 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: they're not good players, or they don't have a good 418 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: workoutic because some of the hardest workers were first round 419 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: picks that I've been around. But there's a there is 420 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: just an appreciation for guys that go through things like that, 421 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: that have a story that they had to scratch and 422 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: claw to get there. Because Wednesday practice, when you're sore 423 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: and your tie, those guys are excited to be there. 424 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: Those guys continue to work hard. Those are the guys 425 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 1: that everyone else is like, dude, slow down, man, come on, seriously, 426 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: so us look bad? Yeah, I mean really like the 427 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: Jeff heats. I mean, he's another guy that, like I 428 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: hated practicing against, but I hope that the defense hated 429 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: practicing against me too, because every single time you know 430 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: that that person is, but it translates and the guys 431 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: that are productive on special teams, those are those guys. Um, 432 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: I've gone. We've gone this far without me mentioning the 433 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: fantastic Christmas sweater Christie's wearing is that Christmas party? I'm 434 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: wearing it to the Christmas party tonight. 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We forgot 479 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: what Victory Monday was like a little bit, he said snarkily. 480 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: Brad Sham with Tyler Klutz and Christie Scales. Michael Urban, 481 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: you may have seen, decided yesterday on the NFL network 482 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: to go back to something that he that he had 483 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: done before that he felt he needed he needed something 484 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: for the mojo, so he started wearing the other teams 485 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: colors the teams the Cowboys were playing on his NFL 486 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: Network assignments. So Christie apparently has adopted that with her 487 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: with her Christmas garb. I'm putting the mojo hecks on 488 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: the Eagles for next Sunday. No, this is not Eagle 489 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: screen for those of the Christmas Tree green, but thank 490 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: you for those who comments. I guess on camera it 491 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: does have that pretty eagles. Pretty Eagles. Yeah, it's in 492 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: person it is lighter, pretty eagles. Grad all right, well, Christie. Once, 493 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: by the way, when when I think you'll correct me, 494 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: when the Cowboys had signed tarall Owens, Oh, this is great, 495 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: and we and when the trip was to Philadelphia, so 496 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: so tell them a story about you in the parking 497 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: lot at Veterans Stadium in Philadelphia with the Eagle with 498 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: the tarall Owens jersey. My dear friends Kennon Elvia Davis 499 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: who live in Philadelphia and I visit with on every trip, 500 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: and I'll see him this weekend, they had a tarall 501 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: Owens Eagles jersey, and so as it kind of a 502 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: bit as a joke, and actually I was going to 503 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: write a story about it for the team magazine, I 504 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: decided to wear the tarall Owens Eagles jersey. Even though 505 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: he wasn't an Eagle anymore. He was a cowboy playing 506 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia for the first time as a former Eagles player. 507 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: So I went out tailgating for about four hours before 508 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: kickoff in a Terrell Owens Jersey just to see the reaction. Yeah, 509 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you can blend in Ish, but not with 510 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,959 Speaker 1: a t O and it, you know. So I'm walking 511 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: through and people are kind of looking at me and 512 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm pretending that I'm from Canada and I've never been 513 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: to a game before and what's the big Like, you 514 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: play in London and they were like every other. Yeah. 515 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: So a very nice couple who had their RV all 516 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: outfitted in Eagles the you know, very nice middle aged 517 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: couple pulled me to the side and said you might 518 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: not want to be wearing that. I'm like, I'm like, well, 519 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: it's it's the only thing I have the problem. And 520 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: so what they did was they took UM duct tape yeah, 521 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: and that they had in the RV and they ghostbusted 522 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: the front and the back, you know, like a circle 523 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: with the thing across, so that it was anti Terrell 524 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: Owens and UM. And then I was getting high fived 525 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: and free food in the parking lot, but they would 526 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: make for a great ben I mean, who would have thought, though, 527 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: and this is me just being a hater, who would 528 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: have thought that you actually would have come across some 529 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: nice Eagles fans? Actually, Can I tell you how much 530 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: old Veteran Stadium was such an armpit? And ever since 531 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: they moved to the Link, Yeah, it's just not as vitriolic. 532 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: And I think part of it is because the most 533 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: vitriolic fans have been like priced out of the good 534 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: seats down low and like over the tarnol and within 535 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: battery battery throwing. But um, anyway, so I mean there's 536 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: still a lot of them, but maybe they're more in 537 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: the upper decks than low. But here's how I knew 538 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: that that things had chilled with the new moved to 539 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: the new stadium. I think our first game there at 540 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: the Link, it had to be later in the season 541 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: because it was cold. I remember it being cold, and 542 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: behind the visiting bench they had set up a folding 543 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: table and on top of the folding table were three 544 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: hot beverage dispensers. They had coffee, they had hot chocolate, 545 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: and they had chicken broth. And that was behind the 546 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: visiting bench. So I'm helping myself to chicken broth, and 547 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: then it occurs to me, I wonder if they spit 548 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: in it, yeah or whatever else. Yeah, it actually it 549 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: actually wasn't chicken broth hot water. It said chicken broth 550 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: and um. And it was in Philadelphia about three years ago. 551 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: I think that the buses got eggs. I was just 552 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: gonna I was literally gonna make a reference to getting 553 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: egg I've well, I guess just when I was in Dallas. 554 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: It happened multiple times when we were in Dallas playing 555 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: in Philly, and I'd played there with some other teams 556 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: and it wasn't as bad. But the hat or the 557 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: hate for the hate for the Cowboys in Philadelphia, New 558 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: York and Washington, they know where you're coming. The fans 559 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: know where the skinner. Okay, they know the early crew 560 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: is coming two and a half hours before kickoff, and 561 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: then the next crew is an hour and a half 562 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: and yeah, they know. The funniest this is way back 563 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: in the nineties, is one of the first years I 564 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: was doing a road trip in the Redskins. It's still 565 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: at RFK, which is in a neighborhood. I mean, you're 566 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: going past rowhouses and things like that. And it's not 567 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: real far from the Capitol, but we're going from the 568 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: team hotel was somewhere near the White House, and we 569 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: go down Pennsylvania Avenue and past the Capitol building. You're 570 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: going through this neighborhood and there's this boy that he 571 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: couldn't have been more than seven or eight years old, 572 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: and he's just walking down the sidewalk and he looks 573 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: over his shoulder and he sees the cowboy buses coming 574 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: and he just dropped his drawers and Moon's the Moon's 575 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: the bus is coming by, And I thought, boy, they 576 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: teach him early here with the Red Skins. Yeah, hate 577 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: is a part of the education, very early, and that 578 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: can be energizing. Watch this seguay. That can be energizing 579 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: team right, Yes, And so the atmosphere should be electric 580 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: on Sunday afternoon in spite of the fact that both 581 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: teams have been occasionally absolutely rancid throughout the years. So 582 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: let's talk about psychology of the game. I was interested 583 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: in the fact that Shawn Lee and Dak Prescott, among others, 584 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: said after the game yesterday that Jason Garrett gave one 585 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: of the best hype talks they'd ever heard on Saturday 586 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: night before the game. You can attest he's pretty good 587 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,719 Speaker 1: at this when he when he brings his a game. Um, 588 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: this is what he sounded like after the game. Second, yeah, 589 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: big hugs all around, and we're going to hear the 590 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: audio of that in just a moment. But that has 591 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: a real effect. It does. It does right because the 592 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: difference between the Friday night game or or the Saturday 593 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: night speech, which is always good and you watch a 594 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: highlight video and like, you get it going, but then 595 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: you gotta go to bed, right and then you got 596 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: to wake up, and then you got to you got 597 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: to manufacture it again because generally, you know, three o'clock game, 598 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: you may do a walkthrough, but you're not coming together 599 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: as an entire team the day of the game. So 600 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 1: that's the last time you're all together. But it's prepared too. 601 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: So he has all week and Jason of all coaches, 602 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: works on this all week long like a sermon. Yes 603 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: I'm and very and very much so. And so he 604 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 1: brings in all these lessons that he's talked about over 605 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: the year, over the last couple of weeks, whatever is 606 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 1: relevant that week, and he implements it and he does 607 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: such a great job. But what will what we'll hear 608 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: in a little bit postgame is is that that is 609 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: raw and that is real, and that's been right so 610 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,879 Speaker 1: in all transparency. That is the thing that has been 611 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: the criticism of Jason this whole time, right from fans 612 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: from me who never see that part of it. Well, 613 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: and I'll say this, and I say and I said 614 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: transparent because I do believe in that. And that was 615 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: one thing I almost I craved a little bit as 616 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: a player, especially twenty fifteen when I wanted him to 617 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: go off on the team and I wanted him to 618 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: hold people accountable. But he is so consistent and he's 619 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: so well prepared, and I just what you heard on it. 620 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 1: I've heard this, um, I heard it earlier today, but 621 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: that was that's off the cuff. He didn't have time 622 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: on the field to like prepare this speech. And nobody's 623 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: gonna say and how well that is as raw and 624 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: real as you're gonna get. This is it? Hey, listen off. 625 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: Just just a hell of a job, guys, that's a 626 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: hell of a job. It started on Monday when you 627 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: came in the way we've practiced all week long. Your 628 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 1: mindset in your mentality to come to work, to wait 629 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: in a one day season. That's what we did all 630 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: week long. And then we made it a one game season. Okay, 631 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: we know what was gonna be all about. You guys 632 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: got your mind right, your spirit right, your body right 633 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 1: to play the way we played. Okay. We talked about 634 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,280 Speaker 1: recapturing the DNA of our team, about team team without 635 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: just play today. You guys know where we are though, 636 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 1: you guys know where we're right back at it. It 637 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 1: talked about it all week long. When this one's done. 638 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 1: Now it's tomorrow, tomorrow, the one day season. Yes. The 639 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: consistency about him is something that I maybe I admire 640 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: it because I'm incapable of being so emotionally and you 641 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: can tell when he's when when it gets to him. Yeah, Kristy, 642 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:24,879 Speaker 1: you and I have both been around him a lot 643 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: when we've seen when it really touches him. But it 644 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: just whether he's the coach here next year or not 645 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: or whatever he does. That the fact that people think 646 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: that he is robotic and emotionless that drives me. Not 647 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 1: the case, not the case at all. And as a player, 648 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 1: you see it because here's the thing is, there's a 649 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: lot of work that goes into Sunday, right, and people 650 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,879 Speaker 1: don't see how much work and how much passion people 651 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 1: put into the preparation. And I know that, Like, yes, 652 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: Sundays have not been stellar this year, and there's been 653 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,760 Speaker 1: a lot of gaps and there's been some absence of downs. 654 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 1: And but the thing is is the players see how 655 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:05,720 Speaker 1: much he prepares, which it directly correlates to his passion 656 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: and how real he is and how much he cares 657 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: about the guys because he is always prepared and he's 658 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,320 Speaker 1: always ready for guys. And there's a sense of security 659 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: in knowing that your coach, he's not going to walk 660 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: into this game unprepared. He may not make the right 661 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: calls at the right moment. Nobody does Nobody does you. 662 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 1: I mean in Boston they talk about Bill Belichick not 663 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 1: making the right call on sports radio, like I guarantee it. 664 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 1: But here's the deal is and Jerry into you know, 665 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: what he is saying is like why why am I 666 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 1: going to make a change? What's better out there? What's 667 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: going to be better here? And here's it? And next 668 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: year is there anybody better than him? Team? Now you've 669 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 1: brought up something else and that is a question that 670 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 1: among the three of us, I think only you can answer, 671 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: and that is, do you reach a point barring the 672 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 1: kind of success that for instance, New England has head 673 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: where you just need a different voice. I don't. I 674 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 1: haven't seen the and we talk about it. There's no 675 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: quit in this team. But there's something really important to that. 676 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 1: These guys still play really hard. They may not do 677 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 1: the right things, um, but they still play really hard. 678 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: Which if they're playing hard for someone whatever the motivation is, 679 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: are they going to play harder for someone else? I 680 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 1: don't know, And I don't And I think that's the 681 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,320 Speaker 1: question that that you know, Steven and Jerry and Jerry 682 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: Junior and Will and all these you know, decision makers 683 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: or questions like is there someone out there that's better? 684 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 1: And I don't know, I don't. I'll say this, I 685 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: know there's no one out there that's going to prepare 686 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: as much as he does. Now again, is he preparing 687 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,399 Speaker 1: in the right way for this team? I don't. I mean, 688 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm I'm Jason, Jason Garrett advocate. I 689 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 1: think that he is a great man, He's a great leader. 690 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: Guys follow him. And the other thing too, is it. 691 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 1: I tell people, they are like, oh, what was your 692 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,439 Speaker 1: favorite team that you played for? And it's really easy 693 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,839 Speaker 1: for me. It's the Cowboys and like, oh yeah, because 694 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: you know there's a lot of perks were playing for 695 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: the Cowboys and the Jones family. No, it's it was 696 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: literally the first time I enjoyed football like I did 697 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 1: in high school. Really at one hundred percent the truth. 698 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 1: And you ask my wife that the same thing is 699 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: I enjoyed ball again to the level that I did. 700 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 1: Whereas there was a handful of years where I was 701 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 1: playing in the NFL, it was a job and it 702 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 1: was I have to work and every day it was 703 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 1: life or death, which okay is good and which is bad. 704 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,320 Speaker 1: But when I came here, I still wanted to work hard. 705 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: But I enjoyed football and Jason was the reason for that. 706 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: Be that why why Tyler and Tiffany on Friday night, 707 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 1: we're here at the Star, Yeah, helping Jason Witton and 708 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 1: Michelle Witton and the Dallas Cowboys Women's Association. Even though 709 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 1: Tiffany and Tyler haven't been, you know, on the roster, 710 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,399 Speaker 1: they're still helping with the charitable event on Friday night. 711 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 1: Because that all this stuff about football and family and stuff. 712 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's it's true in so many cases. 713 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: So before we have to wrap up, that will lead 714 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: me to a hearing, each of you answer a question. 715 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: I was asked on radio locally this morning, and that 716 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 1: was this, And you answer, and then I'll tell you 717 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: what I said. Was Lee, when yesterday more enjoyable or maddening? 718 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 1: Oh it was both. Actually, no, it was more enjoyable. 719 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 1: It was more enjoyable. And here's why Sean Lee and 720 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,760 Speaker 1: I said this on the air. Sean Lee's interception returned 721 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,760 Speaker 1: where he looked Zeke out zeke zeked on the return. 722 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: The celebration on the sideline, Jason Witton, I've never seen 723 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: him jump that high. I didn't know he had that 724 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,720 Speaker 1: much sky in him to do a flying chess bomb 725 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: to Sean Lee. But that was the big other than 726 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: a game winning play at the end, that was the 727 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 1: biggest celebration I can remember in a long time on 728 00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: the Cowboys sideline. I agree, And it was more fun. 729 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: It was. It was enjoyable to watch that. You know, 730 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 1: I'm an optimist, so I want these guys to do well. 731 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: You know, I still know and are friends with a 732 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: lot of guys on this roster and I want this 733 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,879 Speaker 1: this group of men to be successful. So seeing that 734 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 1: not that like I'm a dad, but but it's that 735 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 1: feeling like I want them to do well and I 736 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,479 Speaker 1: want them to be successful. And Sean having the game 737 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: that he did, like no one's more deserving of playing 738 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 1: at that level and getting the recognition for it than him. 739 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: And then Jason too, I mean you see that catch, 740 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: like he surprises you, I mean that one handed catch. 741 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: Watching those things, it was so fun to watch because yes, 742 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,839 Speaker 1: finally we're seeing what they're capable of and what we 743 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 1: expected them to do, but also just to see them, Okay, 744 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 1: that confidence and we've talked momentum all year, right, and 745 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 1: the effect of that and what that's going to have 746 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: to see that Okay, hey, here's a spark, right. And 747 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 1: then Troy was talking about I heard Troy talking about 748 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: it on the TV cast talking about the ninety five 749 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: team and how they just did not play very good ball, 750 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: but they hit it at the right time. And we 751 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: are built to play well against really good teams because 752 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,439 Speaker 1: we have the talent. Now, we haven't showed that consistently, 753 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 1: but the only time, the only time that it really 754 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,879 Speaker 1: matters is from here going forward. So we're here and 755 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: everything is at our fingertips. It's just now the big 756 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 1: question is is okay you can get up for games. 757 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 1: And I'll end it with this because I know we're 758 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,360 Speaker 1: running at the end. Is it's such a week to 759 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 1: week thing, right, And the Rams played lights out against 760 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 1: the Seahawks, and it was it was like really scary 761 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 1: thinking that, Okay, they're gonna come in here and they're 762 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 1: gonna have a momentum there. But they showed up like that. 763 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,439 Speaker 1: It reminds me of the twenty fourteen Indianapolis Colts game 764 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 1: when we when we secured the division and they were 765 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,720 Speaker 1: I think they were like nine and four at the time. 766 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 1: They were a really good team, playing really good ball, 767 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 1: and on film they looked amazing and they came in 768 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 1: and we beat the breaks off of them. And I thought, honestly, 769 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 1: coming into that game, I thought we were a little 770 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: bit laxed, and I thought that, like, I don't know 771 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 1: if we're focused, because this isn't we don't have to 772 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,919 Speaker 1: win this. We just have to win one more game 773 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: this year and we'll get one the next week. And 774 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 1: I honestly came in a little bit worried, and we 775 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,879 Speaker 1: came in and absolutely beat them up. And this game 776 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 1: reminded me of it. This really but it's a week 777 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 1: to week deal and the big question is is can 778 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 1: we replicate two weeks in a row? And that's why 779 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 1: my answer to the question was it more enjoyable or maddening? 780 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:35,280 Speaker 1: Was first I said to myself and not out loud. See, 781 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 1: this is why I hate fans and some media sometimes. 782 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 1: Why do you have to ask that question? Why? And 783 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 1: that's why the answer I gave on the air was 784 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Yeah, it doesn't matter if it was 785 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: more enjoyable or maddening, because then I said what you 786 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 1: just said, Tyler. The only thing that matters is what 787 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 1: they do now. If they just go do what they 788 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 1: know and have now reminded everyone they are capable of doing, 789 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 1: then they will continue to go and do what they 790 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:15,240 Speaker 1: wanted to do, and that's all that matters. It doesn't matter. 791 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 1: The Vikings game doesn't make Would you like to have 792 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,319 Speaker 1: the best record and play two games at home? And 793 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 1: of course sure, but Saint Louis Blues Washington Nationals you 794 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 1: have to be in. Once you're in, then you do 795 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 1: what you can do, and all the all the Green 796 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 1: Bay and Jets and all the nonset doesn't matter. It 797 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 1: just doesn't matter. Jason Garrett was one hundred percent right. 798 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:46,439 Speaker 1: It's a one game season. It's a one day, one 799 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 1: game season's correct, and today's the day. So if this 800 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,360 Speaker 1: isn't blinging enough for Christie to wear to the Christmas 801 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 1: party tonight, I'm looking forward to saying I'm looking forward 802 00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 1: because three hours I will have no blame, no blake. 803 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 1: We are not going to be here because of the 804 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,800 Speaker 1: holiday next week. We'll tell everybody that right now and 805 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,800 Speaker 1: um and then we'll see what's going on in two weeks, 806 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 1: but we might be looking forward to getting ready for 807 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 1: a playoff game in a week's time after that. Exactly right. 808 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:23,840 Speaker 1: Merry Christmas and hey holidays, mister Clarks you I'll see later. Yeah, 809 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,320 Speaker 1: all of you, Thanks for being with us. I'm Bradsham. 810 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 1: This is Radioheads. This has been a production of Dallas 811 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club