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Speaker 2: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up

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Speaker 2: straight Fire? Fam, It's me Jason McIntire, Straight Fire for Monday,

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Speaker 2: October ninth. If you're watching a YouTube and I know

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Speaker 2: we got a new a lot of new listeners on YouTube, folks,

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Speaker 2: your boy is baming ear to ear grin my best

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Speaker 2: weekend gambling of the NFL season. It was a banger

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Speaker 2: of a weekend in the contest five and zero finally

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Speaker 2: bouncing back. It was ugly one for four last week,

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Speaker 2: so I'm now thirteen and twelve above five hundred. But basically,

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Speaker 2: if you listen to Friday's podcast, I think every side

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Speaker 2: hit a couple totals missed, but it was an unbelievablely

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Speaker 2: great weekend on the NFL front, and the Jets one

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Speaker 2: in Denver, left town in ski masks after kind of

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Speaker 2: stealing when thirty one points if they had one offensive touchdown,

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Speaker 2: we will take it, folks. It was just an unbelievable

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Speaker 2: Sunday in the NFL, started with the Bills losing. Gotta

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Speaker 2: love that. Overall. I can't complain.

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Speaker 1: You know we're in October.

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Speaker 2: I got my Halloween costume. I cannot reveal it yet

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Speaker 2: it's the wife's idea. We're, you know, doing a tandem thing,

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Speaker 2: and you know me, like, she had a couple ideas

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Speaker 2: and I had to shoot them down and said, listen,

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Speaker 2: it's Halloween. You know, fine, I won't we're a tank

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Speaker 2: top on Halloween, but I gotta look cool a little bit.

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Speaker 2: So I think I have a good outfit. We'll discuss

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Speaker 2: it as we get closer to October thirty first, but

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Speaker 2: we got to start, folks with the beatdown by the Bay.

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Speaker 2: Holy cow. So all week last week, all the chatter was, wow, hey, listen,

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Speaker 2: see I Franciscoes whooping up on people. They haven't beaten anybody.

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Speaker 2: You got j Mac over here talking about Brock Party

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Speaker 2: MVP after one week and then some Christian McCaffrey MVP,

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Speaker 2: Like stop it. The Dallas defense is here. They are

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Speaker 2: legit sanfree. We don't know Brock Party, you know, we

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Speaker 2: do this this? What about ism? Well, what about brock Purty?

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Speaker 2: Come on? He it was a seventh pick, seventh round pick,

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Speaker 2: the dead last pick in the draft, and like really, like,

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Speaker 2: you know, he got hurt against the Eagles, so I

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Speaker 2: know he's never lost to start in the NFL. But

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Speaker 2: like come on, he hasn't been that. Look at the

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Speaker 2: defense's face. Here's all these excuses. Oh well, he's got

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Speaker 2: the he's got the greatest scale position players, he's got,

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Speaker 2: he's got all the weapons. Like we keep making excuses

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Speaker 2: for Brock party and I don't know what else he

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Speaker 2: can do after Sunday night to convince people that Brock

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Speaker 2: Purty is slam dunk, lock it up, one of the

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Speaker 2: ten best quarterbacks in the NFL. And I'll go through

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Speaker 2: the ten shortly. But like we're talking about a national

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Speaker 2: TV game, all the money's coming in on Dallas shrinking

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Speaker 2: the line line moving toward the Cowboys. So the big market,

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Speaker 2: big money gamblers, one hundred thousand dollars figures, they like Dallas.

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Speaker 2: In this one, all the Sharks.

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Speaker 1: Go Brock Purdy.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, we'll see Rock Purty four touchdown passes,

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Speaker 2: slicing and dicing dan Quinn's defense. It's funny because George

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Speaker 2: Kittle slow start to the season. I'm sure you have

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Speaker 2: him in fantasy, we have him on my son's team,

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Speaker 2: and not a lot of big games. And it's almost

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Speaker 2: as if Shanahan is really just taking his time. A

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Speaker 2: heavy dose of McCaffrey every week, but one week at

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Speaker 2: say Yuk Ayuk. One week is Deebo Samuel. Last week

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Speaker 2: Deebo Samuel did nothing. This week is George Kittle Folks.

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Speaker 2: Brock Purty is doing whatever he wants to anyone in

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Speaker 2: the NFL. And yes, he has a masterful play caller

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Speaker 2: in Kyle Shanahan. And you saw the stat last night.

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Speaker 2: NBC showed it on Sunday Night Football. Since I believe

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Speaker 2: it was twenty twenty the no, I'm sorry, it's this season.

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Speaker 2: You saw it last night. This season, the San Francisco

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Speaker 2: forty nine ers have thirty one points scored on the

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Speaker 2: opening drive most in the NFL. They're unbelievable. Off the script.

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Speaker 2: You you saw Dallas's defense look totally befuddled. And listen,

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Speaker 2: Dallas has a good defense when they play you know,

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Speaker 2: cellar dwellers and quarterbacks who can't read defenses. Yeah, they're gonna.

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Speaker 1: Bottle them up.

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Speaker 2: Mac Jones can't do a damn thing. We will get

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Speaker 2: to back Jones. Trust we will get to back Jones. Okay,

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Speaker 2: you know we like the Saints here on the pod

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Speaker 2: when they say Zach Wilson, Yeah, they're gonna mix up

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Speaker 2: coverages and make him confused. Okay, Daniel Jones, whoop the

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Speaker 2: damn do can't do anything? Rock Party? How about that

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Speaker 2: mapples All Party did four touchdown passes and you started

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Speaker 2: to see it if you went online during the game

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Speaker 2: last night. Oh it's brock Purty gonna be an MVP candidate.

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Speaker 2: I quickly, I said, folks, we gave it out after

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Speaker 2: week one, Party the MVP. Could you buy stock in

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Speaker 2: perty MVP plus twenty five hundred at the time, I

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Speaker 2: think I saw fan duel dealing plus seven fifty, you know,

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Speaker 2: and we obviously a DraftKings sponsor. Folks, we told you

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Speaker 2: after week one we're giving away month, literally giving away money.

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Speaker 2: I hope you went and got some some Rock Party.

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Speaker 2: I hope you did, because he right now top ten

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Speaker 2: quarterback undeniable. You can't even say, well, no, no, it's this,

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Speaker 2: it's that. No, just shut up. All they do is

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Speaker 2: score thirty plus points in every game that Brock Party starts.

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Speaker 2: Look at the numbers this season. They don't lie. So

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Speaker 2: I'll give you Rob g and I went through the

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Speaker 2: ten quarterbacks. Now Rob has it a little less than ten.

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Speaker 2: I've got it at eight. Here are my guys, no

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Speaker 2: particular order, Patrick Mahomes, Trevor Lawrence, and yes, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: sure I'm gonna get some pullback on Lawrence. He had

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Speaker 2: some gross missteps occasionally happens, justin Herbert. So that's three,

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, I know he's digged up. Let's

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Speaker 2: not do recency bias. Okay, this is right now. Best

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the NFL, not like last two weeks. Like

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Speaker 2: you know, simple size is sixteen games at least a season, okay,

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Speaker 2: at least Okay, so that's five. Then you got Jalen

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Speaker 2: Hurts would be six. Lamar Jackson would be the seventh. Again,

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Speaker 2: this is no particular order. I go Matt Stafford eight,

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Speaker 2: I'll put Tua in there at nine, and I will

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Speaker 2: have brock Perty ten. Those are your ten best quarterbacks down.

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Speaker 2: I cannot find an argument to push any of those out.

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Speaker 2: If you want to get granular, who would you rather have, well,

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Speaker 2: Matt Stafford's offensive line, you go, look what the Eagles

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Speaker 2: You know, you look at some of these other guys.

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Speaker 2: Justin Herbert does not have a playoff win, you know,

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Speaker 2: Brock Purty has two. You know, I know both were

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Speaker 2: at home. But again, Jason Jalen Hurts only did it

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Speaker 2: for a year. Folks, Just we gotta stop with this.

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Speaker 2: And here's the interesting thing. Not all those guys were

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Speaker 2: I think when tenth Trevor Lawrence obviously went first, Joe

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Speaker 2: I just think we're at the stage where we need

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Speaker 2: to stop with the well what about you know we're

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Speaker 2: not sit and look at that.

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Speaker 3: Just stop.

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Speaker 2: Brock Purdy can make all the throws. He processes quickly,

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Speaker 2: gets the ball out. Dallas didn't really, they didn't confuse

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Speaker 2: And all this being said, I'm throwing all the gas

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Speaker 2: all the smoke. Yes, Brock Purdy is the man. The

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Speaker 2: first bet I made for Week six in the NFL

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Speaker 2: was the Cleveland Browns getting three and a half at

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Speaker 2: home against the undefeated mighty San Francisco forty nine ers.

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Speaker 2: Rob G does not like the Niners because he's a

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Speaker 2: Raiders fan, but I know, Rob, any NFL rankings worth

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Speaker 2: their salt has to has to have the Niners at

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Speaker 2: the top of the charts heading into Week six.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think that's you know, even a debate

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Speaker 3: it's all subjective, right, is well, who have you beaten?

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Speaker 3: Because that was the big argument about the Cowboys coming

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Speaker 3: into last night, where it's like, yeah, they beat up

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Speaker 3: they inexplicably lost to the Cardinals. But like, you know,

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Speaker 3: they're great, but who have they been to make us

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Speaker 3: feel like they're really that good?

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Speaker 3: That's one thing that had that Buffalo had going for

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Speaker 3: a little bit about the Niners coming into Sunday, and

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Speaker 3: what did they do? They did what they do to

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Speaker 3: everybody else. They beat the living shit out of the

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Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys. It looked exactly the way the way they

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Speaker 3: the Steelers. It's exactly the way they played against the Giants,

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Speaker 3: exactly the way they played against the Rams. They out

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Speaker 3: physical let the line of scrimmage and brock mother e

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Speaker 3: f and Purdy was making all the throws whenever he

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Speaker 3: had to. Last night, completed seven of ten passes over

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Speaker 3: ten air yards for one sixty six and three touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: He currently leads the NFL and completion percentage on passes

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Speaker 3: over ten yards that's seventy two percent. All four of

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Speaker 3: he wasn't just standing back there like a statue with

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Speaker 3: was still able to throw it in stride and kittle

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Speaker 3: Waltzon to the end zone. Brock Party, I personally have

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Speaker 3: him at eight, you have him at ten. I'm not

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Speaker 2: I don't hold on, hold on, I don't have him

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Speaker 2: exactly a ten. I just had like a note order those.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, whatever you have him. We're pretty much on

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Speaker 3: in line with that.

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Speaker 2: Pretty much on the.

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Speaker 3: The one thing that I'm going to say, and this

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Speaker 3: I think about it, the more I'm convincing myself that

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Speaker 3: this is the case. To me right now in October

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Speaker 3: of twenty twenty three, is it fair to say that

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Speaker 3: Brock Party is the next coming or the second coming,

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Speaker 3: or this version of Joe Burrow? Because Brock Purty, like

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow, doesn't have the biggest arm. He's not the

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Speaker 3: fleetest to foot, He's not a at hulking six foot five,

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Speaker 3: two hundred and thirty five guy like Justin Herbert. You know,

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Speaker 3: he's not super elusive like Lamar Jackson. He's not a

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Speaker 3: squad at six hundred pounds like Jalen Hurts. But all

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Speaker 3: he does is win games, and he's highly productive. Going

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Speaker 3: back to Joe Burrow's second season when they made the

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl, completed seventy percent of his passes thirty four touchdowns,

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Speaker 3: fourteen interceptions, about two hundred eighty eight yards a game

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Speaker 3: Sunday night, when the numbers are all going to go up.

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Speaker 3: Brock Purty seventy two percent completion, two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 3: five yards per game, five touchdowns, no pick, one hundred

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Speaker 3: and fifteen QB rating, So that's all gonna go up.

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Speaker 3: He's at nine touchdowns now. The QB rating is going

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Speaker 3: And the thing that they both have in common, Purty

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Speaker 3: him play, he's never sweating. I know this is like

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Speaker 3: on the flip side, Dak Prescott heavy sweater doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: I had to write these numbers before he got pulled

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Speaker 2: if you watch Dak rolling out, he can't escape those

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Speaker 2: Who is more likely to spoil the Niners Eagles rematch? Okay,

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Speaker 2: been shut out since twenty sixteen when Tom Brady was

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Speaker 2: serving a Deflake Gates suspension the Patriots. Similar to how

428
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,439
Speaker 2: Dallas kind of pooped their pants on Saturday Night football.

429
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 2: Not a lot of people watched this Patriots Saints game

430
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 2: because it was crap. The Patriots had eight first downs

431
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 2: in the game. They had one turnover in the second half.

432
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 2: Turnover machine. Mac Jones started it and the story and

433
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 2: we've been hammering this home every week. They start the

434
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 2: game with ineptitude, and this is on Mac Jones. They

435
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 2: were down sixteen nothing to the Eagles, seventeen three to

436
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 2: the Dolphins, twenty eight three to Dallas, twenty one zero

437
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 2: to the Saints. The lone win the Patriots have. It's

438
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,160
Speaker 2: against my guy, Zach Wilson. You know whatever beat him

439
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 2: fifteen to ten. Survived that game. By the way, three

440
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 2: weeks ago was the last time the cow Patriots offense

441
00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 2: scored a touchdown. Now, listen, when Bill Belichick loses back

442
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 2: to back games by combined seventy two to three I

443
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,360
Speaker 2: think something's up. I think Rob I gotta start here.

444
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 2: I'm not a Mac Jones guy. I don't think New

445
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 2: England's in on Mac Jones anymore. We saw some pushback

446
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 2: on a Fox Sports article by a former colleague of mine,

447
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 2: Henry McKenna. Really good piece about how Mac Jones is

448
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 2: starting to let his displeasure be known or people in

449
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 2: his circle are starting to put it out like, hey,

450
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 2: this isn't all on Mac. You know, it's tough to

451
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 2: cook when you got some garbage vegetables and the meat stale, Like,

452
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 2: I don't have much I'm working with. Well, didn't we

453
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 2: hear that last year? Mac? What Matt Patricia? Come on,

454
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 2: this is a defensive guy.

455
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy stinks.

456
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 2: Well Bill O'Brian, let's bring in Bill O'Brien. Okay, Mac,

457
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 2: you got your guy. How are things working out with

458
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 2: Bill O'Brien. You can blame now offensive line injuries. Everybody

459
00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 2: has those, Devonte Parker. I mean Bill went out in

460
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 2: got juju, Smith Schuster. Oh wait a minute, Bill got juju.

461
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 2: Bill got Mac and Bill and the Patriots are now

462
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 2: one and four, and folks, we talked about a preseason.

463
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 2: This has This is the toughest or second toughest schedule

464
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 2: in the league, and I can honestly say this is

465
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 2: a five win team I think at best. And where

466
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 2: it really gets interesting, Rob, is what do the Patriots

467
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 2: end up doing if they're bad enough? Does Craft say,

468
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 2: you know, Bill, let's let's just move you to a

469
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 2: higher up role in the organization. We'll just you know,

470
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 2: you have such a good vision and you're a legend

471
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Speaker 2: it We'll just move you into the front office kind

472
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Speaker 2: of like an emeritus role, and we'll just bring in

473
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Speaker 2: a new coach, you know, the coaching. You know, we're

474
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 2: doing a rebuild here. We'll have you up in the uh, up.

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Speaker 1: In the front office.

476
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Speaker 2: You think Bill would take that or he'd say, whoa,

477
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 2: Now we stink And I got a shot at a

478
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Speaker 2: quarterback in the top five.

479
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 1: And you're not letting me do it? What's going on here?

480
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 2: I don't think Belichick wants to go out like this.

481
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 2: And it's gonna get really interesting in Foxborough. Like Bill,

482
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,479
Speaker 2: we let you take Mac Jones, and now you're drafting

483
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 2: high and we're gonna let you take the quarterback again.

484
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 2: I mean everything I look at, Rob when I watch

485
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 2: Mac Jones is that's not a modern quarterback. He's immobile.

486
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 2: He's got cement shoes on, panicky in the pocket, and

487
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 2: he doesn't you know how Like when you're playing basketball

488
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 2: and you're on a fast break and you maybe throw

489
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 2: it away, you tap your chest. That's my bad.

490
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:36,959
Speaker 1: It's on me, got it.

491
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Speaker 2: I don't see mac Jones taking ownership of anything out there.

492
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 2: I don't see any fire on the sideline. It just

493
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 2: I don't want to say he looks checked out. But

494
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 2: clearly there's a disconnect between Bill O'Brien, mac Jones and

495
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick because every game Mac Jones is screwing up early,

496
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 2: putting him in a hole, and they can't take out

497
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 2: of it. Folks that intercept that pick six by Honey Badger,

498
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 2: Like what the hell was that? It's like, oh, pressures coming,

499
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 2: just vomits up a ball in the middle of the field,

500
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 2: Like what are you doing? You know, I'm coaching the

501
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 2: with this other dad, you twelve girl soccer, Like the

502
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 2: number one rule for defenders go to the outside, don't

503
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 2: put the ball in the middle field. Don't do that,

504
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 2: like mac Jones, Bro, you were a quarterback at Alabama,

505
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 2: you know, in the NFL and you're just vomiting the

506
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 2: ball up into the middle of the field in traffic

507
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 2: to avoid a sack like Zach's. That's some Zach Wilson stuff.

508
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Speaker 1: Rob. I don't know.

509
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 2: I don't know if you could tell me clearly that

510
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Speaker 2: at this point, like Mac Jones is better than justin

511
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 2: fields or Zach Wilson, Like I'm starting to put him

512
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 2: in that category at this point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's totally fair. And before I get to

514
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Speaker 3: what you said, my favorite stat this it might be

515
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 3: my favorite stat of all time. As of early Monday morning,

516
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 3: Mac Jones is now responsible for almost as many defensive

517
00:26:54,080 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 3: touchdowns four as offensive touchdowns five three, pick six is

518
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 3: and a fumble six Like that is unbelievably bad. That

519
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 3: is Little Giants level bad, right, And it's interesting that

520
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 3: you bring up Zach Wilson because I think that Zach

521
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 3: Wilson and Mac Jones have one thing in common, and

522
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 3: it's not great just looking from the OUSEID I don't

523
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 3: know these guys. I know to people who cover the teams,

524
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 3: but I don't know them personally, so you know, but

525
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 3: take it for the grain of salt. They both give

526
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 3: off the vibe that they are petulant, entitled, spoiled brats.

527
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 3: Nothing's ever their fault. They don't know how to galvanize

528
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 3: a room because in their in their eyes, it's not

529
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 3: they didn't do it wrong. It was someone else's fault.

530
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 3: And these these comments the Fox Sports that you brought

531
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Speaker 3: up the a source close. I didn't know is Mac

532
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 3: Jones good enough to have a source close to Mac Jones?

533
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 3: Like is he that level of player yet where you

534
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 3: can have that probably? I mean usually usually you gotta

535
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 3: be like, you gotta be somebody like an of a

536
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 3: certain ilk to you have a source close to that.

537
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 3: Jersal homes there are exactly something like that, Hey, sources

538
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 3: close to brock party. You know, I'll put brock perty

539
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 3: in that right, But no, like you're not good enough

540
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 3: for that kind of stuff. And you know, you have

541
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 3: the nut shots, the sauce Gardner, the kicking defensive line

542
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 3: that's going back to last season in a pile and

543
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 3: he makes like this little whiny face and he's like, oh,

544
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 3: what do you mean with what's going on? And even

545
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 3: his own teammates, according to multiple reports, that tell them like,

546
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 3: hey man, you got to stop this stuff because then

547
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 3: it's going to lead to us getting kicked and us

548
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 3: getting pinched whatever in these piles. So you need to

549
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 3: cut it out. And even the worst quarterbacks, like I

550
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 3: think Daniel Jones is not a good quarterback, but you

551
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 3: see on that team that there are a number of

552
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 3: guys who are like, no, we're rolling with Daniel Jones.

553
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 3: That's our guy. We think he's elite. They're they're wrong,

554
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 3: but they think he's elite, like they they there's on

555
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 3: record guys have said that, I don't see anyone anywhere

556
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 3: in that locker room saying Mac Jones is our guy.

557
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 3: We're rolling with Mac Jones because he just doesn't have

558
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 3: that same kind of leadership qualities that you look for

559
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 3: in a quarterback. And if you don't have that to

560
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 3: fall back on when you stack together, these continue as

561
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 3: bad games, one on top of another, they're gonna discard

562
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 3: you real quick. And it's interesting to me that last

563
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 3: week Tom Curran, who covers the team, floated out on

564
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 3: a podcast who lasts longer, Bill Belichick or Mac Jones?

565
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 3: And I mean, is that even crazy to say anymore?

566
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I've seen nothing from Mac Jones to think

567
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 2: that he would be worthy of keeping over Belichick. Of you.

568
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 3: No, But has Mac Jones done anything you see me?

569
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 3: Has Bill Belichick doing anything to make you you just

570
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 3: said you want to bump up to the front office.

571
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 2: Post, bro, Come on, He's a icon in New England.

572
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 2: He's been with the I mean, what were the New

573
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 2: England Patriots before Belichick and Brady?

574
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: Give me like one or two names.

575
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:03,719
Speaker 3: Wasn't Bill Parcell's there? They weren't terrible? Didn't they make

576
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl for Belichick?

577
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: I think?

578
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 2: I think in eighties? Are they the ones that got

579
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 2: smashed by the eighty five Bears?

580
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 3: I don't have to look it up, but didn't didn't

581
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 3: they lose to the Packers.

582
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: In the nineties they had I think, yeah, that was

583
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 2: I think was it was? It bled?

584
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 3: So I think it was line.

585
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 2: They're largely an irrelevant franchise, you know, a cut above

586
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: the Jets. But what is that saying they made a

587
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 2: Super Bowl or two? You know, and the Jets didn't

588
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 2: you know for thirty years since?

589
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: Like Joe Namath, I don't know.

590
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,719
Speaker 2: I just I mean, part of me wonders, like is

591
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 2: the game passing Belichick by? But at the same time,

592
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 2: like Mac Jones, isn't built for the modern game, but

593
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 2: Belichick drafted him. You know, It's like one of those

594
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 2: chicken and egg things like which came first, And it's like,

595
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 2: I don't know, you would you would take back Jones

596
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 2: over Belichick.

597
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 3: No, I would take Bill Belichick. But you know the

598
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 3: fact that somebody reputable around the team would even float

599
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 3: that out says a lot about both guys in my opinion,

600
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 3: because I think everyone, everyone from the outside, I think,

601
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 3: knows that Mac Jones not the guy. But it seems

602
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 3: to be like there's a ground swell in the New

603
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 3: England area of people saying, well, Mac Jones may not

604
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 3: be the guy, but Bill Belichick is definitely not the

605
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 3: guy anymore because he's the one who runs this team.

606
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 3: He not only he is the coach, he is the

607
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 3: general manager. He is the grocery purchaser and the chef.

608
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 3: So ultimately the buck has to stop with him. I

609
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 3: understand that maybe the plan is, like you said, take

610
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 3: away one of those responsibilities and then he can flourish again.

611
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 3: Maybe you say, hey, you're no longer the GM, We're

612
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 3: just gonna make you the coach. But then does he

613
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 3: even roll with that what he said, rather step down

614
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 3: than be demoted in that way, so.

615
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 2: I part of Okay. So remember Nick Saban went through

616
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: some growing pains at Alabama and he was he's historically

617
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,719
Speaker 2: been a great defensive guy and the offense is kind

618
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 2: of passing it by.

619
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Speaker 1: And do you know what he said? You know what,

620
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: I don't get offense in the modern era?

621
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 2: Hands off. And he basically said, I'm handing off the

622
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 2: offense every year to some genius offensive coordinator who's gonna

623
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 2: dial up whatever's current and we're gonna roll with that.

624
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: And Lane Kiffen was certainly in there. I'm pretty sure

625
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,719
Speaker 2: Sarkisian was in there. But he would just get smart

626
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: young minds and say, you run the offense. And like

627
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 2: that's very self aware of Nick Saban to be.

628
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: Like, I don't get anymore. I can't hang.

629
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 2: Let's go with these guys.

630
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: They know what they're doing.

631
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: And it's like, does Belichick have that awareness?

632
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: Now?

633
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 2: Robi takes a special person to say I don't get

634
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 2: this anymore, you know, and I'm just gonna I'm gonna

635
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 2: take a back seat to the offense. Like I don't

636
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 2: see Belichick doing that, but you know, Bill O'Brien's his guy.

637
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: I don't think Bill O'Brien's very modern.

638
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: At any rate, let's move on for I don't know

639
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 2: there's a final topic, but I have to take them

640
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: all again. As great as the weekend was, and it

641
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 2: wasn't perfect, Nick cox A lost a very bad very

642
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 2: bad for a lot of things.

643
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: But you don't care about Mexican soccer.

644
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: I was wrong on Sean Payton and Denver. I thought

645
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 2: they would be like an eight, nine to ten win

646
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: team this year. I thought they would be in the playoffs.

647
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 2: I'm in a wins pool where you have to pick

648
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 2: which team is going to have the most wins, and

649
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 2: I drafted the Broncos. So that's not going well. Although

650
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 2: my other teams are going awesome, the Broncos are weighing

651
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 2: me down, and folks, it's about to get worse. Denver

652
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: now one and four, okay, and that's a one and

653
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 2: four record having faced Jimmy Garoppolo, Sam Howell, Tua seven

654
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: hundred yard game fields and Zach Wilson and they're one

655
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 2: and four. They're zero and three at home. This is

656
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 2: heading toward disaster. This week they have the Kansas City

657
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 2: Chiefs on a short week on the road. I don't

658
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 2: think Mahomes and Reader going down. We'll see what's up

659
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 2: with Kelsey. You know, he had the ankle, came back,

660
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 2: was okay, we'll see. Then they have green Bay. I

661
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: would say that's winnable, but we'll see. I like, we'll

662
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 2: talk about Packers Raiders a second. Then they have Chiefs again,

663
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 2: then the buye, then Buffalo. Very good chance. They're definitely

664
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 2: losing three of those games. So you're now one in

665
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 2: seven and if you beat Green Bay you'd maybe be

666
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 2: two and seven. What are we doing? But the problem is,

667
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 2: and Rob and I looked at this like the contract

668
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 2: hasn't kicked in yet really for us, So all of

669
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 2: a sudden you're like, oh geez, what like okay, maybe

670
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 2: they start selling off Hey, who wants Jerry Judy?

671
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: Does anybody want Courtland Suton? You start selling.

672
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 2: Off pieces, great, go for it, get a bunch of

673
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 2: draft picks to get back in the mix.

674
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: But what are you getting awful for.

675
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 2: A left tackle, an edge rusher, or you're just saying, hey,

676
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 2: by sheer volume and quantity, we'll get back in the

677
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 2: mix if we can get let's say, if we go

678
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 2: into this draft with an extra second and an extra

679
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 2: third and you know, we come Let's just say we

680
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 2: get four of the top five of the top ninety

681
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 2: picks or something like that, and we could get four

682
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 2: of those guys started out to be starters.

683
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 1: Boom, we're on the comeback.

684
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 2: You know, because the defense can't stop a nosebleed. This

685
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 2: is that getting Sean Payton excited. Like I know everybody's

686
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: gonna want to say Russell Wilson sixs, but Rob, we agree,

687
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 2: he's not the problem. The problem right now is the defense.

688
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 2: But the other problem is Sean Payton to borrow a

689
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 2: line from the top gun. His mouth wrote a lot

690
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 2: of checks that his butt has not been cashing. They

691
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 2: lost some close ones. I still maintained that Raiders. They

692
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 2: should have won that Raiders game. I still maintain they

693
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 2: should have won that Washington game. But at some point

694
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 2: you gotta stop with the woulda, coulda should have. The

695
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 2: Jets scored thirty one points with one offensive touchdown. The

696
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 2: Jets were zero for five in the red zone, and

697
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 2: they still won in Denver.

698
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: It's like, oh my gosh, I don't.

699
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: Know ro I don't think there's an easy fix here.

700
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 2: This is really tough. I don't think they're gonna be

701
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 2: aggressively bad enough to play them their way to KILEB Williams.

702
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 2: But even if you did, what are you doing? Are

703
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: you trading the pick because you've got to pay Russ

704
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,919
Speaker 2: Like I none of this makes sense.

705
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're stuck within a rock and a hard place.

706
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 3: Just looking at spot track, they don't have even a

707
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 3: realistic out on Russell Wilson until following the twenty twenty

708
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 3: five season. And even if they did that, even if

709
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 3: they said, okay after was it now? That would be

710
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 3: year four the Russell Wilson you know, so twenty half

711
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 3: years from now, the following year twenty twenty six, if

712
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 3: they were to let them go in the offseason, the

713
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 3: dead cap is still thirty one million. That's even if

714
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 3: that's the even with the quote unquote realistic out, so

715
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 3: realistically is no, it's.

716
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 2: Not the worst thing in the world as the cap

717
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:54,919
Speaker 2: goes up, but it's still a massive hit.

718
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 3: Right, thirty one million for a guy who's not playing

719
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 3: for you? Is you know Atlanta Falcons asque they did

720
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 3: that with Matt Ryan, you know, like.

721
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 2: It rob of those big cap What was the Matt

722
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: Ryan win? That's a good one. You just brought that Mac.

723
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think like thirty Matt Ryan's was probably

724
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: twenty five, thirty million, thirty five. Now, listen, they were

725
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 2: aggressively bad and oh they've turned it around and we

726
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 2: don't know what they are.

727
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 3: It was forty forty million. They took a one year

728
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 3: bath for forty million, but then they had zero the

729
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 3: rest of the way. So but if then if Denver

730
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 3: did that though, if they let them go, they'd have

731
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 3: thirty one twelve point eight, four point four, So they

732
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 3: still wouldn't even be able to get out like Scott

733
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 3: Free in one season. It's still a cass skating cap number.

734
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 3: So that's number one. Number two you brought up. Their

735
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 3: defense is absolutely abysmal. According to Aaron Shatz, friend of

736
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 3: the show. It's been on this pod multiple times now.

737
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 3: The Denver Broncos through the first four weeks of the

738
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 3: season had the worst defense ever according to DVOA. Then

739
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 3: they played Week five and they are still the worst

740
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 3: defense ever according to DVOA. This season alone, they give

741
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 3: up forty six more yards per game than the second

742
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 3: worst team, the Chargers. To put that into context, that

743
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 3: the forty six yard difference in the same different between

744
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 3: the number three defense, which is Baltimore and the number

745
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 3: ten defense, which is the Eagles. Okay, they're points per game.

746
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 3: I know that's kind of skewed by the seventy Burger,

747
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 3: but we got to keep it real here. They're given

748
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 3: up thirty six points per game.

749
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 1: How much of it's skewed.

750
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a lot skewed by the Miami

751
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: or the Raiders only had seventeen points.

752
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 3: Right, but that's the Raider. They don't score more than

753
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 3: seventeen against anybody and just go off against him. Yeah,

754
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 3: he really did. And just look last season. They gave

755
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 3: up twenty one with a lot of the same players.

756
00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 3: The common denominator is Sean Payton. Payton came in, couldn't

757
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 3: get Vic Vangiel to stay and up going to Miami

758
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 3: and even their defense isn't that great, to be honest

759
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 3: with you, but he came in, and the whole narrative

760
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 3: around this team in the offseason was if they could

761
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 3: just get their offense right, that's a playoff team. Heck,

762
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 3: that might even be a dark horse super Bowl team

763
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 3: because that defense is very No, there were I didn't

764
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 3: say that, but that was out there because they say, hey,

765
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 3: if this defense is giving up twenty one to twenty.

766
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 3: There was a stat I wish I had in front

767
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 3: of me that if they had just scored seventeen points

768
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 3: per game, that they would have won ten games. Like

769
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 3: it was ridiculous, how good, how inept there was offensively.

770
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 3: So they said, hey, if this offense is even average,

771
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 3: they're going to be in the playoffs. They're going to

772
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 3: you know, make some noise in the AFC. And now

773
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 3: the offense is middle of the road. You know, Sean

774
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 3: Payton's lived up to that end of the bargain, but

775
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 3: in the process has just let the defense fall off

776
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 3: a cliff And and it's why, because of all the

777
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 3: talk he did in the offseason, It's why I don't

778
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,919
Speaker 3: think anyone feels sorry for him. It's why everyone's gonna

779
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 3: keep pointing and laughing as long as they can, because

780
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 3: he came in and talked to big talk, and he

781
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 3: has fallen flat on his face in a way I

782
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 3: don't think I've seen any coach fall this quickly.

783
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 2: You know, you get a new job, and obviously you

784
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 2: want to bring your team in right, you want to

785
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,959
Speaker 2: ring in your guys. It takes some time. Right, Rome

786
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 2: wasn't built in a day. Obvious cheesy quote. Ye, you know,

787
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 2: I can't crush him, And again, I know him a

788
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 2: little bit. I just feel like everybody needs a little

789
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 2: bit of time to get their right coaches in there,

790
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 2: got to get the right players, Like he's still in

791
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 2: the evaluation phase, right, he evaluated Randy Gregory was like,

792
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 2: why did you guys give him this horrible contract? And

793
00:40:55,600 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 2: I wonder Rob if jettison Gregory, who I believe leave

794
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 2: the last GM drafted or not.

795
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 3: Drafted but signed free agency?

796
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 2: Yep?

797
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: Right?

798
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: Is that a way for Peyton to see like, hey,

799
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 2: I got one hand tie on my back. You guys

800
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: are signing clowns like Gregory. We're getting rid of them,

801
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 2: shipping him to Sanford. We got to get out of

802
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: the get off this guy. Is that planting the seed that, Hey,

803
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 2: look what I'm working with here. We got a lot

804
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 2: of stuff to clean out. Would not be surprised if

805
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 2: jen Fer had some big moves here coming forward and

806
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 2: quickly I'm trying.

807
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 3: To you know, you know who else did that? Josh

808
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 3: mcdanim's with the Raiders. He took a wild card playoff

809
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 3: team that was already in place added Davante Adams and

810
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 3: Chandler Jones and got markedly worse. Sean Payton shows up

811
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 3: to a team with a top ten defense and they

812
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 3: get markedly worse. You know, I'm just just putting it

813
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 3: out there, just saying.

814
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 2: I don't know, uh, you know, Cooper cups back. I mean,

815
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 2: there's some okay stuff. I will just say before we

816
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 2: get to the best bet for Monday and Football, one

817
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 2: of the crazier games I've seen this year is Steelers Ravens.

818
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, Ravens went down the field ten nothing lead,

819
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 2: real quick, and I wrote that off as a loss.

820
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 2: I said, this is why you don't bet like gross

821
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 2: teams that stink. But as we talked about at length,

822
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 2: anytime a spread in the series is bigger than three,

823
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 2: you've got to really take a close look. And I mean,

824
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: what do they say by hook or by crook.

825
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: I don't even really know what that means, but my

826
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: parents say it.

827
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,240
Speaker 2: Baltimore just falls on its face in the second half.

828
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 2: Rob I've never seen anything as crazy this season as well.

829
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 2: There's been a lot of crazy stuff. I'll say this week, Steelers,

830
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: you can feel the vibes. They're coming back. Baltimore punts

831
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 2: it and the returner gunner, the white kid who used

832
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 2: to be on the Patriots fumbles, Lamar takes over I

833
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: think at like the ten yard line and it's ten eight.

834
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, great, they're gonna score it. There's no chance

835
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh can cover. Lamar throw is one of the ugliest

836
00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: fades that I've seen underthrown woefully intercepted by the rookie

837
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 2: Joey Porter Jr. And that just flipped the game. And

838
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: it's weird because Harbaugh at the end of the first

839
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 2: half and I watched this way too closely because of

840
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 2: the pit investment, like they were fuelal range. They were

841
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 2: like at the thirty and for whatever reason, Lamar like

842
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: took too long scrambling and threw it away and like

843
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 2: the half ended and John Harball was like, what did

844
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 2: we just do? We just left points on the board,

845
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 2: and they totally did in the end zone. Now, I'll

846
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 2: say this, Baltimore had rob I don't know how close

847
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 2: you watched two touchdown passes dropped, like, I mean straight

848
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 2: up dropped. One of them I think was Bateman, And

849
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if that guy got back on the

850
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 2: field because it was bad down the right sideline and

851
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 2: the other one was pretty bad.

852
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:36,439
Speaker 1: Tube.

853
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: But then Lamar had a quote to the Athletic about hey,

854
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Speaker 2: hold on, let me get the exact quote, total misquote

855
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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson. But it was one of those like, oh wow,

856
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:48,720
Speaker 2: this is a real thing, Lamar Jackson. We don't expect

857
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: our guys to drop passes like Lamar, how about an

858
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 2: underthrown I t in the end zone. Odell Beckham did

859
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 2: not look great Baltimore. I don't know if they're good.

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00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 2: Rob are they good?

861
00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 1: They're three and two?

862
00:43:58,920 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 2: Are they good?

863
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 3: I think they're good. I mean to your point, I

864
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Speaker 3: mean it's hard for me.

865
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Speaker 2: Yess yes, with like a minute seventeen left, it what

866
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 2: mar their best cornerback up cook by Pickens.

867
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 3: Totally factual, I believe though. Coming into Sunday's game, they were,

868
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 3: along with the Niners, the only team who had not

869
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 3: dropped the pass yet. They were credited on Sunday against

870
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh with six official drops, but you know they have

871
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 3: the unofficial ones by like the Beat writers or the fans,

872
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 3: you know, the redditors. They said they counted closer to

873
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:37,760
Speaker 3: ten drops, and according to one poster, uh Rashad Bateman

874
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 3: dropped a touchdown, Nelson Agelo dropped Nelson Agilore dropped two touchdowns. Well,

875
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 3: I think maybe the second one. It seems like it's

876
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 3: kind of a stretch you think would have been a

877
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 3: deep pass, but I don't think he would have actually

878
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 3: scored on that play. As a Flowers dropped a touchdown.

879
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 3: So yeah, four touchdown drops, so you know, if even

880
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 3: half of those are converted, it's it's a blowout. But

881
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 3: as I say it was.

882
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: You say that and you're like, oh, well, maybe they're better.

883
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 2: Then the score indicates Rob. They go to Tennessee this week.

884
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: Tennessee's good at home, crappy on the road. Baltimore's favored

885
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: by four. And I just want to remind people go

886
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 2: look up Lamar Jackson in the playoffs against Tennessee. He

887
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 2: had one awesome scheme totally shut him down. The other one.

888
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 2: Lamar ended up coming back and winning, but it was

889
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 2: a close game. I almost bet the Ravens, but I

890
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 2: was like, let me hold off Rob. I guess final

891
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 2: thoughts before we get to best bet. Do you want

892
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 2: to guess the spread on Miami at home against Carolina?

893
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 2: Oh Man, Bryce Young against Tua two Alabama.

894
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 1: Guys.

895
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, Miami minus thirteen and a half.

896
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 2: Wow, nailed it. Now it's fourteen at one spot, but

897
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 2: thirteen and a half almost market wide. I almost hit

898
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 2: the pound button. I'm like, wait a minute, wait minute,

899
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 2: let me see what Miami has next.

900
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: Few Eagles after this?

901
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 2: Do they possibly, like you, like to play with their

902
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 2: food in the second half? And young destroys it? Just

903
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 2: be careful with the Eagles on deck the old the

904
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: other game, I told you guys, I bet Cleveland three

905
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: and I have nobody's touching that. Oh this is interesting.

906
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 2: Washington off a colossal embarrassment at home against the Bears,

907
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 2: where Magic Johnson, the new owner, took a shot. Okay,

908
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 2: they go to Atlanta. Falcons have only wanted home, and

909
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 2: the Falcons are favored by two.

910
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: Any lean there?

911
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 3: Give me the commanders? Was that ten days rest?

912
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 2: Now at that point extra rest? Desmond River only looks

913
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 2: good at home?

914
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: Man only right? Not? Oh?

915
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 2: Wait, one more Jets hosting the Eagles. Now Eagles do

916
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 2: have like I said, Miami next week, Jets a bit

917
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: of an afterthought. Jets have been plucky at home beat

918
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 2: Buffalo covered against the Chiefs six.

919
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: Who you got?

920
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 3: I got the equals that that defensive line is going

921
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 3: to rehavoc against the Jets offensive line.

922
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, good vibes.

923
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 3: It's just already gone.

924
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 2: No, listen, it's two either two and four. I don't

925
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 2: think it's over for the Jets. Look, the schedule is

926
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 2: very manageable and the defense is playing good.

927
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Speaker 1: Well, they're playing Okay.

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Speaker 2: your best bet. I don't get this. The Raiders are

946
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 2: favored by two tonight on Monday Night Football against the

947
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: Green Made Packers. I'm trying to get there. I don't

948
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 2: see how the Vegas Raiders are favored over anybody. The

949
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 2: last time we had this, they were favored against Pittsburgh,

950
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 2: and I'm like, what why? And they did not look

951
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 2: good and then Aiden O'Connell steps in. They're getting smashed

952
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 2: against the Chargers, come back and get feisty.

953
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Speaker 1: I don't see it, Rob, What am I missing?

954
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 2: How are the Raiders favorite? Are the Packers at bat well?

955
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 3: I mean Jordan Love I know the touchdowns look good,

956
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,720
Speaker 3: but he hasn't really been a good quarterback this season.

957
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 3: You know, he's falling behind, I mean multiple times now early.

958
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 3: I believe we only compete in like fifty five percent

959
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 3: of his passes, which in today's NFL is absolutely horrendous.

960
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 3: You know, when guys are completing upwards of seventy these days,

961
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 3: if you're you know, fifty five, that's that's horrible, and

962
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 3: they're still dealing with some key injuries in with the Packers,

963
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 3: so I could see if you're an odds maker or

964
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 3: how you might work that into your favor. But even

965
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 3: as a Raiders fan, I mean, we can't score more

966
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 3: than seventy points skin as anybody against the worst defenses.

967
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 3: So I would assume that the Packers can score more

968
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 3: than seventeen points even with Jordan Love, you know, missing

969
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 3: half of his passes. So yeah, I would lean Packers

970
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 3: on this one.

971
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 2: Packers are nothing for me. I think Packers money.

972
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: I think they win the game.

973
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 2: I just I know their defense was bad against the Lions.

974
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 2: I think that was a lot of the Lions looking

975
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 2: good and the Lions kind of are good. I've just

976
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 2: random rob Fantasy football. How did you do over the weekend?

977
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 3: Oh? Came back with the W I was I was

978
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 3: behind early because of Justin Field. Justin Fields was giving

979
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 3: me the business. But I tripled up on the Miami

980
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 3: Dolphins on Sunday. Excuse me, quite drupled. I have a chan,

981
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 3: I have Tyreek Hill, I have Tua, and I even

982
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 3: started the Dolphins defense, so that four alone was enough

983
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 3: for made me comfortably have the lead going into Monday Night,

984
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 3: so I'm gary. I could bench Josh Jacobs and still

985
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 3: get the win, but I won't because you know, long term.

986
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,240
Speaker 2: And he's not gonna fumble seven times exactly. So it's interesting.

987
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 2: I was down big to DJ Moore, and man, my

988
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 2: team came through. I mean me and my son had

989
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 2: a really really good weekend. I'll say it's interesting fantasy

990
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,280
Speaker 2: strategy going forward. Do you automatically pick play the defense

991
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 2: facing the Patriots.

992
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 3: Or the Giants?

993
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 2: I thought it was the Giants or the Giants. I

994
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 2: mean they gave up six sacks. Daniel Jones ends up leaving,

995
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 2: like eventually the Giants will get healthy and maybe when

996
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 2: some games I don't know, league is getting wild. All right,

997
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 2: that's a long, long, long Monday Pod. We will get

998
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Speaker 2: back to you tomorrow, hopefully Day Night Football or Monday

999
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Speaker 2: Night Football is good, and then we'll have a good

1000
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Speaker 2: pod Tuesday. And then a frequent guest who likes to

1001
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Speaker 2: come on the pod and always shed some light on

1002
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Speaker 2: gambling and other things. He will be stopping by on Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you later