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Speaker 1: All right, This is a question we kind of asked

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Speaker 1: every guest that we have on the show. And question

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Speaker 1: is when you got to the league, who's the first

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Speaker 1: person to like bust your ass like this? This the level,

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Speaker 1: like this is the highest level to go.

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Speaker 2: But my first game was against Mellow, you know, and Ai.

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Speaker 2: But I had to guard Mellows and he was what

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Speaker 2: I was eighteen nineteen. He was probably with twenty four

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Speaker 2: Denver twenty three. Yeah, and you don't Yeah, I never

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Speaker 2: played that Denver altitude. I don't really know too much about.

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Speaker 2: And Mellow just physical, you know. He just he'll duck

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Speaker 2: you in in the paint, hit you with the shoulder,

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Speaker 2: and then he'll take you out, jab jab, pull over

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Speaker 2: top of you. So you can't You want to be physical,

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Speaker 2: but you don't. Like he just had you thinking too

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Speaker 2: much on D and he I was just I went

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Speaker 2: we had to back to back that night. I just

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Speaker 2: I got on the plane confused. I'm like, it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be like this every night, Yo, this cue, it's D Miles.

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Speaker 2: We in San Francisco to Bay Area.

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Speaker 3: Out here right across from the Golden Gate Bridge. My

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Speaker 3: man easy Money Sniper a K A K D a

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Speaker 3: k A m VP.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: He didn't invited us into his space, and he rocking

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Speaker 3: out with the knuckleheads. Man, we appreciate you for rocking

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Speaker 3: with him. Bro, this is que Rich and d Miles

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Speaker 3: and knuckleheads.

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Speaker 2: And we coult a push up. That's when I knew.

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Speaker 2: I was like, this is.

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Speaker 4: Fact finder right here. This is a story that people

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Speaker 4: don't know.

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Speaker 1: Can't call me soft, and you can't disrespect where I'm from.

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Speaker 2: I did deal with a lot of losers, and that's

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Speaker 2: just sucked. I got your crack.

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Speaker 3: We come from an authentic old jeek standpoint, but it's

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Speaker 3: always good vibe. Yo, what a y'all doing here? I

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Speaker 3: thought I was just coming over to watch the game,

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Speaker 3: and you guys got microphone set up in the backyard,

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Speaker 3: and okay, I liked it.

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Speaker 4: I liked it.

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 1: When Mellow came to the league, when we played against him,

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Speaker 1: you know, being in Portland, being in the conference and

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Speaker 1: playing against him and so forth. On the aggression and

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Speaker 1: how aggressive he was as a rookie just coming to

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Speaker 1: the league, how aggressive and physical he was.

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Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, a dog he was, like he

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Speaker 2: wanted them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I knew he was gonna be like scoring like

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Speaker 1: that definitely in the league because it's aggression towards you.

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Speaker 4: And I hated guarding Mellow. I had to guard him

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Speaker 4: all the time too.

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Speaker 2: Like there's some certain games you know you gotta get it,

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Speaker 2: you gotta physically get up for you know you're gonna

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Speaker 2: be bumping and grinding. You know, he wan of those

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Speaker 2: games for sure.

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Speaker 4: I could.

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Speaker 3: Like for me, I could deal with the bumping and grinding.

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Speaker 3: But then he was six sake, so now like so

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Speaker 3: now like the fact that you know, I was one

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Speaker 3: of the people that could deal with like the physicality

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Speaker 3: of it.

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Speaker 4: Now he gonna drag me out there, and now.

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Speaker 3: He could like you say, jab jab, but then just

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Speaker 3: raise up and shoot over. So so for me, that

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Speaker 3: was always an issue. But I want to tell you

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Speaker 4: I think y'all had.

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Speaker 3: Y'all had a lot of dudes, you know what I'm saying, Like,

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Speaker 3: talk about some of the dudes you grew up playing

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Speaker 3: with that was like some of them dudes that was boys.

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Speaker 3: I know, Bees is a dude that you you know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying, grew up playing. I played with him

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Speaker 3: my one year in Miami, so I know, like he

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Speaker 3: walking buckets. So like just like y'all gotta y'all got

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Speaker 3: just like, you know, well respected as far as like

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Speaker 3: the people, y'all, don't put out.

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Speaker 2: Just talk about some of the people you grew up

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Speaker 2: playing against. It may go back far, you know, to

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Speaker 2: like watching y'alls Like I came up watching like Keith

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Speaker 2: and then Damar Johnson, all those dudes you kind of

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Speaker 2: and making it to the league. And and then you're

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Speaker 2: when you're playing uh reck ball and you see one

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Speaker 2: And that one dude for me was Mike Beasley. You

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Speaker 2: know how crazy was that? And then as I got older,

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Speaker 2: because like, we so sheltered, so like then you were

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Speaker 2: seeing so many dudes just go to you know, nice

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize how much talent we had in the

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Speaker 2: into who I was. Because every night we was playing

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Speaker 2: coming up. So it was it was a good competition

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Speaker 2: nationally too.

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Speaker 1: Like talk about that, like the other high school players

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Speaker 2: You just know it a lot of noise about them. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean that's when the Internet was really just you know,

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Speaker 2: of those sites, and you know, you wanted to see

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Speaker 2: and and you know, hopefully once you got out and

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Speaker 2: got some exposure in the country. So you was hearing

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Speaker 2: about so many players six nine, two forty, Like what

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Speaker 2: I've never seen this before, so like your imagination was just,

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Speaker 2: chasing the NBA life, just wanted to see what that

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Speaker 2: was just it was perfect for me at that time

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Speaker 2: because it was not too much basketball, but it was

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Speaker 2: just enough, you know what I'm saying. It was I

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Speaker 2: Da Mar Johnson was a he was crazy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for real, Like me and him. I met him.

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Speaker 4: I met him in ABCD.

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Speaker 3: Me and him played on the same team together, and

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Speaker 4: Like that's what it was crazy.

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Speaker 3: I remember we sitting there one day, we looking at

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Speaker 3: the rankers and I'm like, yo, you know, what's your name?

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Speaker 4: What grade?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 4: Were going over each other name and You're like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I say, man, bro, you number.

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Speaker 2: One, like you know that.

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Speaker 3: He's like, I ain't even know. I'm like, man, that's

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Speaker 3: when that's back when he really was he.

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Speaker 2: Was crossover crossover.

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Speaker 3: I ain't gonna you like throw on you shoot the

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Speaker 3: three like everything, like when he was he can come.

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Speaker 2: He could have went straight out.

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Speaker 3: He was telling him to leave after junior year and everything.

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Speaker 3: I remember that he could have.

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Speaker 1: Went straight out of high school. I couldn't believe he

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and then we was in the same draft for

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Speaker 1: Kenyans, Kenny Field, He's pretty good though it was it

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Speaker 2: Heouldn't want to got hurt. Kenyan broke his leg, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 3: So so like speaking of DJ right, him being like

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Speaker 2: He like did he?

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Speaker 4: And like if he did?

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Speaker 3: But what other players like the influenced you being like

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Speaker 3: a tall you know what I'm saying, six nine six

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, shooting jumpers, handling the ball as well as

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Speaker 4: Like who named some of the guys?

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Speaker 3: I mean I heard you say some of the guy

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Speaker 3: that I looked at looked at you was like D

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Speaker 3: Miles two point zero. Like when D Miles hit the scene,

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Speaker 4: Six nine bang? But I'm talking about really had to

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Speaker 2: It was moving phase all that, and it was.

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Speaker 4: Like banging that thing.

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Speaker 3: And like then you came and like you like him,

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Speaker 3: were like combined D Miles with like a I don't know,

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: The one thing that he was missing was like his

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Speaker 3: you know, the fifty ninety whatever everybody you're just like.

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Speaker 2: You're doing with all those dudes you watch coming up

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Speaker 2: DJ Like he ain't have to, but he took me

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Speaker 2: on his wing as I was coming up from like

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Speaker 2: wanted to be a part of. He was always who

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Speaker 2: to be around the life. So he showed us love

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Speaker 2: and you realized what the ogs really did for the game,

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Speaker 2: you know. So the stuff that I seen him do

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Speaker 2: seeing how you can how far you can take it,

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Speaker 2: because it's just about evolution of the game, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean. So somebody that's gonna do what I do,

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Speaker 2: it's gonna maybe fine tuning in a different way. So

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Speaker 2: I was seeing that at an early age. I was like,

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Speaker 2: finally it's somebody that looked like me right walking around here,

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Speaker 2: long and skinny and playing and in sports. So I'm like, man,

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Speaker 2: finally somebody that looked like me. And it just makes

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Speaker 2: you feel like you can do anything out there.

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Speaker 1: For me, it was like when I was coming up,

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Speaker 1: I was seeing I seen KG, tall, dark skinned, lanky,

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Speaker 1: aggressing especially, and I ain't really seeing that. Even in

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Speaker 1: South Carolina, I heard about him, but I didn't see him,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: When he came to Chicago, it was like.

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Speaker 1: Man, I got a chance to see who KG was

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Speaker 1: and seeing like you know McGrady, you know, and you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, lamar old them seeing these tall

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Speaker 1: six or nine dudes.

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Speaker 2: Like, oh, they moving around a little more.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I just added, try to add stuff, like

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Speaker 1: And so Jayall was explaining his journey like the people

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Speaker 4: And like the gas that ended it for him.

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Speaker 2: Time out I said, Man, I get dressed every day

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Speaker 4: Like that.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't nowhere you're just hooping, yeah, we said, but

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Speaker 2: It was in La We was everywhere. Yeah, a couple

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Speaker 4: So then, what made you choose Texas?

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Speaker 2: Man? I was, I wanted to go to North Carolina.

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Speaker 4: Right, we know, all right, right right?

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Speaker 2: I went to a game when they beat Duke at

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what today somewhere, I'm like height up there

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Speaker 3: That's literally why I went to Paul Over like going

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: So it was like it's your chance to make a stamp.

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like you know what I'm saying,

440
00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:45,600
Speaker 3: You ain't about the top that are Like not that

441
00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,800
Speaker 3: you're going to try and be the top dog or whatever,

442
00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,040
Speaker 3: but like just you know that all right a Texas,

443
00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,200
Speaker 3: when I go do what I do, it's gonna ring,

444
00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,639
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like it's gonna ring. Careal,

445
00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,600
Speaker 3: it ain't gonna be like all right, like all of

446
00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:01,320
Speaker 3: these it's like you wanted a few, yeah, man, and

447
00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,280
Speaker 3: you see that now like all these years later, it

448
00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:05,720
Speaker 3: mean that much more to you.

449
00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,400
Speaker 1: I committed to Saint john Like I was coming off

450
00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,680
Speaker 1: the Ryan or test Eric Barklay.

451
00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,240
Speaker 2: They was kind of making it still a good team.

452
00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,120
Speaker 2: That was still a good.

453
00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:21,919
Speaker 1: John's lover when Jordan's Yeah, me and Omar because Omar

454
00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,760
Speaker 1: wanted to go to North Carolina Cook, I told North Carolina, yeah,

455
00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,159
Speaker 1: you get Omar and Eddie Griffin.

456
00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,040
Speaker 2: I'm definitely coming, you know what I'm saying, Like I

457
00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:30,959
Speaker 2: want to squad up.

458
00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,920
Speaker 1: Yea and Eddie went to Seaton Hall and they picked

459
00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,480
Speaker 1: Adam Boom over Omar Cook. Omar Cook led the nation

460
00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,840
Speaker 1: and assists was nice. You know what I'm saying when

461
00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:44,600
Speaker 1: he let the nation this sis it's freshman. I was like,

462
00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:49,199
Speaker 1: I made a great decisions catching that dunk in that

463
00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:53,720
Speaker 1: jont But yeah, I committed to Saint John's and I decided,

464
00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,840
Speaker 1: like I'm out. I want to touch on your like

465
00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,920
Speaker 1: your draft. I seen you and Greg Old. I was

466
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,280
Speaker 1: importantly I seen y come in because they had the

467
00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,960
Speaker 1: number one pick. Yeah, and I seen you and Greg

468
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,600
Speaker 1: And I remember the first time I seen you when

469
00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,040
Speaker 1: I kind of like should.

470
00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,320
Speaker 2: Yeah he was in the locker room.

471
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was working out in the gym and I

472
00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,440
Speaker 1: seen how tall you was, and I was like, damn,

473
00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 1: the small food was coming in trouble.

474
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,960
Speaker 2: So I seen him come in, and I know, everybody want.

475
00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,720
Speaker 1: To be number one, like like Kenya Martin deserved to

476
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,399
Speaker 1: be number one pick when I was coming out, but

477
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 1: he got he broke his leg and I had an opportunity.

478
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,520
Speaker 1: You know, they was thinking about passing on him to

479
00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,160
Speaker 1: pick me, you know what I'm saying.

480
00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:40,360
Speaker 2: And of course I.

481
00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,879
Speaker 1: Wanted to be number one, but he deserve and he

482
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 1: should have been number one, and I'm happy that he

483
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 1: got to be number one.

484
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,240
Speaker 2: But you and Greg Olden.

485
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 1: Y'all kind of was doing the same thing playing that

486
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,640
Speaker 1: one year and yeah, come out.

487
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,439
Speaker 2: I mean it was I mean, like you said, you

488
00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 2: definitely want to be a number one pick, you know,

489
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,600
Speaker 2: especially in that situ. You know, you had Brandon Roy

490
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 2: there and Marcus and like I know, LaMarcus from Texas.

491
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 2: So it'd been cool to play with them, and you know,

492
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 2: being at Nike a few times and kind of being

493
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 2: familiar with that in Portland, I'm like that kind of

494
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 2: feel at home just a little, you know, so it'd

495
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,120
Speaker 2: been cool to be number one play, you know, play there,

496
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,439
Speaker 2: pull into black and red jerseys. It just seemed like

497
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 2: it was right. But I also knew Greg was one

498
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 2: of those centers that can be franchise changing. So I'm like,

499
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,440
Speaker 2: either way, it's cool with me. I mean, I'm still

500
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 2: in the league and I'm nice, so whatever happens, it happens,

501
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 2: and you know, I'm down for any journey. But after

502
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,159
Speaker 2: a while I was more so everybody else was telling me, like, yo,

503
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,399
Speaker 2: you should think about being No. One pick. You should

504
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 2: you know, want that. I'm just like, yo, were just hooping,

505
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,399
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, But it is cool to

506
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 2: seek the be Ce David Stern come out on you,

507
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 2: the first guy taking after he was chosen, I'm like, damn,

508
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 2: that shit does probably feel good to him. You know.

509
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 2: I ain't realized that until he got drafted, and it

510
00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,679
Speaker 2: was just like, man, that shit probably feel good. But

511
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 2: you know, we both still in the league, so let's

512
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 2: just go hoop man pulling the skipped on and Kim Durant, right,

513
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 2: that's crazy, that is crazy.

514
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 3: That's crazy, And it was unfortunate that they on both picks.

515
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 4: It was for big guys that had.

516
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 3: You know, injuries that that kind of vented them from

517
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:25,400
Speaker 3: their greatness because otherwise, sure I'm telling me that when

518
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 3: he played with left hand right hand like hands.

519
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 2: He's not a dunker. He is shipter.

520
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, like he's shocked, you know what I'm saying.

521
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 2: Ship Yeah, he's Joe kick you in your face. He

522
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 2: was different. He was he was definitely gonna be hold.

523
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 3: I want you to talk about how many years is

524
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 3: it that you had in Seattle, one or two?

525
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 2: Just one?

526
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 3: First of all, let me just say I love Seattle.

527
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 3: I love going to play in Seattle. I felt like

528
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 3: it was a great city for the league.

529
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 4: Like it was.

530
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 3: It was the cools, one of the coolest cities to

531
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 3: fly in to and you know, be there for a

532
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 3: day or two and like, vibe out. I love Seattle,

533
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 3: and you know, I wish I hope they get the

534
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 3: team back then and all that, because I felt like

535
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 3: you and Jeff Green had a cool first year there,

536
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,199
Speaker 3: and I mean, just talk about yours being stay in

537
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 3: Seattle with you know, with the Sonics.

538
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 2: Man, it was fun. Fans came out and supported from

539
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 2: day one, you know, just even when I had to

540
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 2: work out there, they was always at the facility, you know,

541
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,360
Speaker 2: trying to greet us and make sure we felt that home.

542
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 2: From day one, you know, even before we were drafted,

543
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 2: so you know, every day and practice they coming out

544
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 2: supporting it. We were bad, we were twenty and sixty

545
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 2: two that year. Fans really didn't come out to support

546
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 2: so much because what was going on up top with

547
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 2: the you know, they were trying to move the team

548
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 2: to relocation, so the fans were kind of odds with

549
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,199
Speaker 2: the organization, but they still supported the player. So it

550
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 2: was kind of weird being in the city. But the

551
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 2: love that they showed us, you know, just walking around

552
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 2: and just being players there, it was cool. Man. It

553
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 2: was They definitely deserve a team because that market is

554
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 2: just a basketball market, you know what I mean.

555
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 4: And then how was that like going from that?

556
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 2: All?

557
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,959
Speaker 3: Right, like your rookie year, you know, for me, it

558
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 3: was right, I'm in LA, I give me a place,

559
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 3: so I'm staying here for you.

560
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 4: Then you like boom, y'all.

561
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 3: Get moved and it's like, okay, See, I don't even

562
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 3: know if like I had never been to Oklahoma City

563
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 3: for anything until we started playing there, so like I

564
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 3: don't know if you was like that, like that was

565
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 3: your first time, Like.

566
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 4: What is it in C City?

567
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 2: See? When we I spent a lot of time at Texas,

568
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 2: so we played Oklahoma a lot in Oklahoma state. So

569
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 2: it's a six hour drive from Austin, Texas to Oklahoma City,

570
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 2: so all my friends would come up from Texas. I'm

571
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 2: always that was like my home, being in Oklahoma City

572
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 2: for that long. So I was cool with going back

573
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 2: to the Midwest because I was so close to the university.

574
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 2: So that helped my transition. But as far as just

575
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 2: like moving the organization, we have a practic city. For

576
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 2: a second, we ain't had no logo. We ain't even

577
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 2: know who was going to be on the team. Yeah,

578
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 2: like we got there. I stayed in the hotel. The

579
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 2: hotel was talking about I stayed there, Yeah, discurbing. I

580
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 2: stayed there for like the first two months until you

581
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 2: found the cred Like you didn't even know.

582
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 4: Wait, did you ever have any any type of credit?

583
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 2: I have a nigga.

584
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 3: That's why I'm asked, Yeah, that's what you said.

585
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 4: I ain't never felt, I ain't never had nothing.

586
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 2: Crazy, No, it was, it wasn't too bad. I spent

587
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 2: two months in there, So with that move was and

588
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 2: I bought a house in Seattle, so just moving so fast,

589
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 2: it was it was weird, but we figured it out

590
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 2: after a while.

591
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, straight up. Hey, this one this one question.

592
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 3: That we love to ask everybody, Like, so when you

593
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 3: first got drafted, like it's your first time coming into

594
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,239
Speaker 3: some change, you know what I'm saying, Or you can

595
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 3: do something. What's like, what's the wildest thing going up?

596
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 3: Craziest thing you did? Like buying something when you got

597
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 3: some bread, like we all guilty of. Like we were

598
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 3: young boys. Brother, he was eighteen, I was nineteen. What

599
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 3: was you nineteen? Yeah, so you young.

600
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 4: So you get dropped in our minds we rich.

601
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 2: We're not rich.

602
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 4: Were wealthy, that's what we think.

603
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 3: We don't know, Like right, so so what did you do?

604
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 2: You know, it's not it's not like one thing. It's

605
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 2: just like you just you just spend it on stupid

606
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 2: stuff like I'm buying five or six xboxes for no reason,

607
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 2: like listen for everyone, man, like seven a TVs. Everyone

608
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 2: gotta have it. I'm buying like coins for my Xbox.

609
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 2: I spend like a thousand dollars to get the VC

610
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 2: all my Xbox. I'm like just doing wild ship and

611
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 2: like just doing a bunch of electronics just persons is crazy.

612
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 2: I said, you I sent you there.

613
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 4: I set you to of these.

614
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 2: You don't need this, I got this.

615
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 3: Go to the store and just get four copies of

616
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 3: matter and just because like one I'm gonna scratch.

617
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 4: I need like for like.

618
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 2: I think it was when I first got to the league.

619
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 2: So when we get to l a first time playing

620
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 2: in La. You know, we go to that Ritz right there.

621
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 2: As soon as you walk in there, all them dudes

622
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 2: with the clothes, they just got the what do you need,

623
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 2: my friend? You know they're still wearing the walkers when

624
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 2: I got up the Donald Plners. So the thing was

625
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 2: the Red Monkeys. I bought like nine pair of.

626
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 3: Them Drens, mister red Monkey himself, I bought nine them.

627
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 2: Joints was expensive and they were terrible jeans. It ain't

628
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:26,239
Speaker 2: fit well at all.

629
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 3: But I just a bunch of did you not still

630
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 3: have them as recent as when you came to Florida?

631
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 2: I bring them back out now, joints, vinage ns real,

632
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 2: you know, just stupid stuff. You know, he's just buying

633
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 2: for no reason. You wouldn't buy if he an't had

634
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 2: this money.

635
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 1: Talk about I think it was like lockout. Yeah, you

636
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 1: went on off the court turn I'm talking about everywhere

637
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: you was going, like like from the summer on you

638
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 1: fifty ball and every turnment for Drew League to the

639
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: rough up to just everywhere you was going to see

640
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: you off the court swag when you don't got no

641
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: coach around, I can just give fifties out like like

642
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: you're giving charity out every city and that was amazing,

643
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: And like you know about this cause we hear it

644
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: be classic classic kill mode during the summer, Like you

645
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: hear people he'dn't been at this workout or that workout

646
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: and headnet killed, but you never really see it. The

647
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: first time I ever seen somebody kill and go to

648
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: all these places for the summer was you.

649
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 2: It was in a time.

650
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: Where footage was out there where everybody was taping everything

651
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: because we done went to summers where we done went

652
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: down in Miami, were going everywhere we come to Hoo.

653
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. That's when it wasn't it

654
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: wasn't no working out with each other.

655
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: We coming down there to straight play five on five

656
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: and hoop against y'all every single day and get our game,

657
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: work on our game like that way.

658
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 2: But I've seen you go on a turn some I

659
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 2: was like, you know, just like that. We like the

660
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 2: hoop though, you know, we're just hooping everywhere, and everybody

661
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 2: was just trying to get together and just like play.

662
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, just the least a game

663
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 2: style somewhere, you know. So we had all them games.

664
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, ain't no structure. We all playing pickup. So

665
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 2: whoever the best out here, they're not gonna get the

666
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 2: most shots everywhere. I went rolling the Red capetof for me,

667
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I'm just spawning right now. I'm just

668
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 2: getting my action in because i can't really get no

669
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 2: game action game. I'm tired of working out. I'm just

670
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 2: trying to hoop.

671
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 4: So so what did that do like for your confidence?

672
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: Like that was a key summer, Like that's what I'm saying.

673
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 3: I know, man, Chicago playing you know how it is

674
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 3: like you had your best year when you come fresh

675
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 3: in the camps, fresh into out bopping, like you really

676
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 3: you really been right leading to it into your highest peak,

677
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 3: like you've been playing, you've been working out, you've been

678
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 3: getting it in, and you're feeling like you've been killing

679
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 3: foods like like we was looking, I'm like, yo, boy,

680
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 3: like making a statement right now. Let me like, that's

681
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 3: what you're going to do.

682
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 2: Going into that summer, we had just lost in the

683
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 2: Western Conference finals and that was our first time there.

684
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm working out a month we know,

685
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 2: I mean a month like two weeks after the season

686
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: over with and not expecting the lockout, you know. So

687
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 2: I'm just working out and hooping like I usually do,

688
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: and we're just going everywhere just like, man, just let's

689
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 2: just get together and work out at least. Is that

690
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 2: when you had the van, Yeah, I was going so

691
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 2: much like he was, like, it just turns in something

692
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: something like.

693
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 3: It was a dope little movement had with the Van

694
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 3: basketball going because that lockout, man, that was that was wack.

695
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 2: I was whack. It was whack. But I know it

696
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 2: has to happen when it comes to the business. But

697
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 2: we just had to keep the ball going, you know

698
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It was tough to not play. Everybody

699
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 2: was feeling for.

700
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: Who It was a good song because I watched you

701
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: all summer fifty ball man.

702
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 2: Every state. He was a every state just coming in

703
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 2: just fifty it. Man. You know how I feel when

704
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: you're out there just hooping and you got the rock

705
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 2: all the time. You're just working on stuff. Everybody wanted

706
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 2: to see and how how live the crowd. That's that

707
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 2: free money that we in here. Yeah, I'm taking fifty

708
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: shots one game, I'm taking like fifty five shots. I'm like,

709
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 2: I just need to get him up to see if

710
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 2: I can. He deep as hell deep when he was

711
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: coming up.

712
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: Somebody that the world might not know, or somebody that

713
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: you pay attention to the world might do, no that

714
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: you was like a walking bucket every time you see him,

715
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: Like man, he scored like with the best of them.

716
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: So this was a dude around the neighborhood. Name was

717
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 2: Kurt Smith. He was like five to nine point guard.

718
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 2: But he played like Sam Pracel. How would be a

719
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: little you know, and they back you down, They back

720
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 2: anybody down. Shoot the turnaround Jay, it's not it don't

721
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 2: look good, but he's scoring every time, so it's like

722
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: he's still impacting the game. It's like, no matter who

723
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 2: was on we play out doors all the time, even

724
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 2: when I was in the league, league dudes playing against him,

725
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 2: like he's still getting buckets getting to where he wanted

726
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: to get to. He played at Drake and he played

727
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 2: back in the day and he was in the Capitol

728
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: Classic playing in the Capitol Classic, so he's actually played

729
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: some ball. He could have played in the league he

730
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 2: was in it had a training camp, you know how

731
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 2: that go, getting the training bit. But he was still

732
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 2: solid up until he's probably thirty six thirty seven playing

733
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 2: around the neighborhood. It was like he still had game though.

734
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: He was all the OG moves that I learned, back down,

735
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: turn around phase, all that he was doing all of it.

736
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: How to shoot, Like who taught to your form? Like you

737
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: got good form?

738
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 2: Like yeah, so tall, you got high or you know

739
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like you.

740
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: Got good form and you've been having good form since

741
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: the first time I sent you play man.

742
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: I've been crafting this joint for a minute.

743
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 4: You know.

744
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: When I was like nine or ten, I used to

745
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 2: have to lay on my back watch martinto the commercials

746
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 2: go off and I used to lay up that's a

747
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 2: real commercials every commercial I could break. I do that

748
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 2: for with like two two episodes. I do that every night.

749
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 2: And that's that just had me stuck there for a second.

750
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 2: Like my godfather who taught me how to play when

751
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 2: he bought me in the gym at seven, Yeah, hand

752
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 2: me the ball. So he was doing a little stuff

753
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 2: like that in my workout routine, and that just stuck.

754
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 2: I had to I had to like shoot so many shots,

755
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 2: just one in front of the rim. Yeah, all the

756
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 2: way back to the three point line, just just working

757
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: every small part and it just got to where it

758
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 2: is now. Man, that's crazy.

759
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 3: That's why I'm telling you, That's why I'd be trying

760
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 3: to get my kids do, like watch the game every

761
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 3: time out knock out, tensive, like the whole game, like,

762
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:44,959
Speaker 3: just get it in.

763
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 2: We ain't there yet.

764
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: We came in and man, we got the privilege to

765
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: be with Jordan's and I was represent Jordan's.

766
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 4: Crazy.

767
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 2: I work out with him ever, work out with him. Yeah.

768
00:33:58,400 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: We used to play against him when I was in

769
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: high school. He was a high school in college. We

770
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: used to go to a Santa bar bro and he

771
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: was invited to his camp and we used to play

772
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: against him.

773
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 2: I wasn't in a pickup though.

774
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: What how, he was a little lot of cursing and

775
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: a whole lot of buckets.

776
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 2: He's getting buckets easy and feel.

777
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: When he got to the league, when he was with

778
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: the Wizards, he was getting buckets still still like they

779
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: like a forty year old man averaging twenty twenty one

780
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: that's getting in the league, Like this is the league.

781
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: This is where they can touch.

782
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 2: You a little bit. Come on, he's posting up young young,

783
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 2: all them the average that like, come on, be for real.

784
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 2: But he different.

785
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: We got the opportunity to wear his shoes and represent

786
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: his brand and so forth on.

787
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 2: You gotta deal with Nike.

788
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: And you got the KDS like my son got kd's.

789
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 2: You remember what you ain't going.

790
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 3: Like.

791
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: They are a hot commodity and everybody was supporting and

792
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: warning and you got a dope shoe the field to

793
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: have a dope shoe, I know, coming up and where

794
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: we come from and had your own shoes and people

795
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 1: rocking with.

796
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 3: Them and they dope and like you say, people rocking

797
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 3: with it too, like rocking with man.

798
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 2: It's crazy. Man, happened so fast from always getting the

799
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 2: East Base and opening the East Base and shoes.

800
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 3: In the East Base. It's just like you teams getting

801
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 3: the KD.

802
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: It just happened so fast. I still can't. It's just

803
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 2: it's crazy to think about it and then see everybody

804
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 2: showing love and appreciating the stories I bring within the

805
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 2: shoe too. It's just the journey. I'm twelve shoes right

806
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 2: now and they told me only me, M J, Kobe

807
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 2: and Bron got twelve signature shoes drop like me and

808
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 2: like where I come from and where how I grew up.

809
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 2: Like that's just like wanting to do stuff like that,

810
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 2: to actually do it, it's like, man, it's crazy all

811
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 2: off from the game. So I appreciate just hooping every day.

812
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 2: That got me that, you know what I'm saying, But

813
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 2: you DNA on your shoes, put exactly everything. Stuff that's

814
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 2: gonna live on even though people might not know about it,

815
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: but it's gonna live on with my family, you know

816
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. That's the most important thing. Word up.

817
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 3: What I want to ask you is like back when

818
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 3: y'all was in Okay, see when it's you, Russ and

819
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 3: James Harden, did y'all three know that? It was like, okay,

820
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 3: y'all about the all three be future MVPs and y'all

821
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 3: all three?

822
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 2: Is this cold I'm talking about?

823
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 4: Like this color?

824
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 3: I know, playing against y'all, I didn't like like obviously

825
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 3: you struck out the most and like you know, russ

826
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 3: and Russing and James was was was good, but like

827
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 3: I never was sitting there like, okay, all three that

828
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,479
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be an at some point in this league,

829
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 3: Like that's like crazy, like like you going in practice

830
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 3: and going at it with them dudes, like and the relationship,

831
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 3: the tightness y'all had, I felt like that was like

832
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 3: like like to me in my opinion, like that was

833
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 3: like one of the biggest screw ups that they let

834
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 3: that they allowed. I don't know what the whole how

835
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 3: anything went, but just because the tightness of y'all and

836
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 3: that reminded me of how we were three young boys.

837
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 3: It's still should be in college level like, but they

838
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 3: was all like young and hungry out there dogs and

839
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 3: they was all but they loved each other.

840
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 4: They was everywhere together.

841
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 3: Every time you saw one, you almost saw all of

842
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 3: y'all never reminded me of how we was, So I

843
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 3: was like, how.

844
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 2: They let this break up?

845
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 3: Like these dudes love each other, these three young boys

846
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 3: is coming up superstars that it ain't no hating on

847
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 3: each other. Everybody love each other and they all rock together.

848
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 3: And it's like, how you don't keep that.

849
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 2: Man, you know it's you know how the business gets

850
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 2: sometimes it's out of your control to the point where

851
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 2: it's just like even the great thing you just man,

852
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 2: we still we're still gonna be homies, but like and

853
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 2: we're still gonna appreciate the little days we had together.

854
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 2: But us like, man, we just stuck together. For me,

855
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 2: like for real, for real, if we all just stuck together,

856
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 2: and when we was doing it just looked beautiful. But

857
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 2: at the same time, it still worked out for all

858
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 2: three of us because they all went on our own

859
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 2: separate pass and kind of created our own lanes for

860
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 2: ourselves and made a name for ourselves and had some

861
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 2: team success along the way. So it worked out perfectly

862
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 2: because we had enough time with each other to kind

863
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 2: of know who, kind of build a relationship man, and

864
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 2: appreciate the how goody we were because playing with Russ

865
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 2: and not never seen somebody jump that high or run

866
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 2: that fast or be that explosive ever on anything in

867
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: my life, you know what I'm saying. And to see

868
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 2: that up close every night and know that he has

869
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 2: a physical advantage over every point guardy playing against I

870
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 2: had the utmost confidence walking into every game. I'm like

871
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 2: my man is coming to go y'all every day.

872
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 4: I know it.

873
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 2: Y'all don't know it yet, but he going hard on

874
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: everybody from to the point where it like, yo, chill,

875
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 2: chill for a second, big you know what I'm saying,

876
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: But you liked that aggression. And then out of nowhere

877
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: because Russ come from out of nowhere. He wasn't even

878
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 2: playing his first year at UCLA. Coming off the bench,

879
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 2: he dunk on somebody like number ze ro all right,

880
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 2: bet we got Durren Collins and Aaron fo Then next

881
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 2: year that's when he jumped on his sophomore year, now

882
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 2: he was a fourth pick and now he's starting point guard.

883
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, Yo, this reminded me and me just coming

884
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 2: out of nowhere and this happy stuff happening so fast.

885
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 2: And then James the same way. I'm like, our paths

886
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: are just too parallel, Like we all grew up in

887
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: different sections, but I see the similarities and how we

888
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 2: came up. You know what I'm saying, That just James James,

889
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 2: James just different. I've seen that in college and high school,

890
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 2: like go behind the back past the pick and roll

891
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 2: in high school, like nobody doing that coming off the

892
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 2: pick and roll manipulating the pick and roll in high

893
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 2: school at six y five strong shooting the jay, I'm like, yeah,

894
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 2: he's different.

895
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,479
Speaker 3: I think it just speaks to each one of y'all

896
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 3: individual greatness for what y'all been able to. Like you say,

897
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 3: it's dope as y'all were together and how y'all had

898
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 3: it going and then to have it be pulled apart

899
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 3: like that. You know, everybody go their separate ways, but

900
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 3: it's still y'all all have still succeeded and putting yourself.

901
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 4: On that on that level like well like look y'all

902
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 4: got your own shoe.

903
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 3: Everybody their own shoot, everybody, everybody trophy like like that's.

904
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 2: Dig in the shoe. More importantly, like charisma be tied

905
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 2: together forever, forever, forever matters.

906
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 3: And those kids say this is photo shot like.

907
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 4: Like like nah, like.

908
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 2: What that's for real? Like five more years they't like

909
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 2: hold up, nah, they ain't like that didn't like what's

910
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 2: already happened today. But like you said, it's just it's

911
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 2: just crazy to see how far we all come, like

912
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: how so fast.

913
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: I'm proud with you to see James finally get m

914
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: v P. S. Russell Westbrook win even p and and

915
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: do what they did. Like like you said, y'all went

916
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 1: on the whole journey, got all the way to the championship.

917
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 2: And won it. Yeah early, yeah, man, you know what

918
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:00,720
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

919
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,479
Speaker 1: But then y'all, y'all break up and then you see

920
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: them shine and get MVP.

921
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

922
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 3: Contrary to what people would believe about your relationship, we

923
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 3: as players don't feel the need to answer or address

924
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 3: scenarios that the media or whoever may create or whatever

925
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 3: they think. Like, they can create whatever narrative they want,

926
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 3: and we find behind closed doors and completely supporting and

927
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 3: rooting for each other, but they think whatever narrative they think.

928
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 3: So for you to see those dudes, like he's saying,

929
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 3: how at that feel, see them dudes achieve those goals

930
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 3: and you know what I'm saying, that level of success

931
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 3: and you knowing already how I feel.

932
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: Man, You just go back to them days they were

933
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: working out after practice and competing. You know, who can

934
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 2: shoot the father's jump shot? How many jump shots we

935
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 2: can make from the corner, playing one on one, playing

936
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 2: pick up? You know, in the little couple weeks before

937
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 2: training camp start, you just think all that stuff and

938
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 2: you crafting thus youngsters and to see, you know, dudes

939
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,959
Speaker 2: that you put in so much much time with because

940
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 2: like y'all know, we spend more time with my teammates

941
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,439
Speaker 2: than you do your family. So like you're really getting

942
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 2: to know these dudes. And now they on stage getting

943
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 2: MVPs and they making so much money for them and

944
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 2: their families and they starting families and like dudes doing

945
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 2: so much with their lives. I'm like, yo, we're getting old, right,

946
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 2: we're getting older in this league, but look where we

947
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 2: come from. So hell yeah, I was proud because like,

948
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 2: once you get something in this league and you got

949
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 2: other guys in that club which you was just like

950
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: good to share those experiences, man. So that's like I said,

951
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 2: we're gonna be tied together forever.

952
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: You got any funny stories with you and and Westbrook

953
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: and James Hard when y'all was younger, like they was

954
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: rookies or something like they made them do something, Oh.

955
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 3: Nah, because we were all so young. I remember one,

956
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 3: y'all one time. I remember one time James har got

957
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 3: so mad. We had Nate Robinson on the team, James

958
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 3: and James and even Eric Mayne, and they used to

959
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 3: always play around so we're in practice one day, were

960
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 3: wondering when they that Nate was in the James car

961
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 3: driver's car all the way around the corner parking at

962
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 3: the car wash.

963
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 2: Ain't telling nobody he read to it. He just parked

964
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 2: it at the car out of nowhere.

965
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 4: He being late for this, nowhere to be found.

966
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 2: He taking pictures like ghost riding his drinks, like on

967
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 2: top of the hood posts joint Ethic car wash and like,

968
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: ain't telling nobody. Walking the locker room, James like, yo,

969
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 2: my keys at he's steaming, he hot, he's ready to fighting.

970
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 2: They almost like pissed, you know, when somebody just moved

971
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 2: something you're trying to leave out of no way. You irritated. Man,

972
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: Like that's the first time I ever we ever got

973
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,919
Speaker 2: into anything as a team like that when Nate come

974
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 2: on the team, Like it was hilarious and I see

975
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 2: why James's pissed, but like that was the first time

976
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 2: anything happened. I'm like, yeah, these boys are different in

977
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,399
Speaker 2: the league, especially dudes like Nate said, like.

978
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 4: Did y'all play like one on one's king?

979
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 3: Like I just look at that, Like even just thinking

980
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 3: about that, that just makes me feel like when I

981
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 3: see the clips of y'all like the USA thing, because

982
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 3: that's like all y'all boys, is Olympic team level? Like

983
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 3: how was that and how did that was? Like that

984
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 3: had to be like one of the best examples of

985
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 3: iron sharpening iron, like all three boys spawning one on ones,

986
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 3: kink of the hills, five spots, three spots, three dribbles, whatever, like,

987
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 3: don't get no better than that. Man.

988
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 2: We used to bump in practice, That's what I'm saying.

989
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 2: We used to play five on five and James used

990
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 2: to have the bench mob and me and Russell be

991
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 2: on the first team. I'm talking about every practice. If

992
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 2: we're not going four court, we're going to have court

993
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 2: controlled scrimmage every practice. Scott Brooks, We're not calling no fouls.

994
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 4: It's going down.

995
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 2: We're going down. And were playing a little side throw

996
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 2: it at the elbow one on one just in the

997
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 2: middle of practice, just to just to throw something in there.

998
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 2: We're doing this every day. I'm talking about, dudes, is

999
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 2: we hacking? We throwing elbows? We're going all We're going

1000
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 2: hard in practice. So when we got into the games,

1001
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 2: nobody was punking us. We had Perk two when he

1002
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 2: got there, he was really the fast and knew what

1003
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 2: was going on, which he learned under KG. So it

1004
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 2: was like we had that influence in our locker room too,

1005
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 2: and it was just like, man, we just took off

1006
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 2: to another level when Scott Brooks was just like he

1007
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 2: just let us go after that, and man, we got

1008
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 2: so much better. Like just everything I was learning from James,

1009
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 2: or how to play on the pick and roll I

1010
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 2: was learning from Russ wouldn't be explosive in the lane

1011
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 2: and go for a left. You know. I was learning

1012
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 2: a little stuff from them just seeing them every day,

1013
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 2: and you got your coach who was just empiring us

1014
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 2: to be who we are. It was just perfect situation

1015
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 2: because a lot of dudes come in the league and

1016
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 2: they don't have that situation, but they might be just

1017
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 2: as good, you know what I'm saying. That's just a difference,

1018
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 2: a little small difference in careers, you know what I mean.

1019
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 2: It's like we was in the perfect environment for our skill.

1020
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how we was when we was with the Clippers,

1021
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: Like because we was on the bench and it was

1022
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: me and him and Corey mcghetti on.

1023
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 4: The bench and crazy.

1024
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 2: Then you got Lo and el Nil starting I had

1025
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 2: a nus to go through wars. I was in one

1026
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: on ones man.

1027
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 3: Listen, we used to really get into like fights and

1028
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 3: practice practice like that, like fight people for.

1029
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 2: Real, like y'all ain't gonna act right, just get real.

1030
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 3: Like nah, y'all got y'all tripping, y'all can't be fighting

1031
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 3: like we real used to get to that point because

1032
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 3: it was so many. I say, it was so many

1033
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 3: of us, all at the same age, first or second year,

1034
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 3: all trying to kick their career off, like nobody ain't

1035
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 3: looking at nobody like you not that much better than me.

1036
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 3: You don't just get the na like that, like I

1037
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 3: could work you out like that and I'm about to

1038
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 3: go at you. So it was every day.

1039
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 4: Back and forth. None stopped.

1040
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 2: Y'all practiced a lot.

1041
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, we was young, Like come on, man, back then.

1042
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 2: We wasn't gonna win. The team was everywhere.

1043
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 3: It wasn't none of that were young and just we

1044
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 3: don't got no, don't even know better, so they like,

1045
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 3: we know, like, hey, we shouldn't be like nah, it's

1046
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 3: whatever they're saying, dude.

1047
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 2: People seeing me and Q play against each other thought

1048
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,760
Speaker 2: they like each other. Yeah, that's how hard.

1049
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 4: We go at each other.

1050
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: They seen it like we worked out for the net.

1051
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: You was going in today, had pick We.

1052
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 4: Was going each other like they was over there looking like.

1053
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 2: We don't even know what to say. They're going to

1054
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 2: get in between, like you sharpened in each other.

1055
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,479
Speaker 1: The last time a three peter's been done is two

1056
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: thousand and three, Shaq and Kobe. You know, that's the

1057
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: last time of three people been done. You got the

1058
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: opportunity to be in the history books or that with

1059
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: the Michael Jordan's, with the Shacks, with the Kobe's, you know,

1060
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: with the Scottie Pippens, the Dennis Robbins. How you feel

1061
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: about getting that opportunity to and to win three and

1062
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: what's the constant grind, y'all going to championship after the

1063
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 1: championship after championship, playing the constant grind to get there.

1064
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 2: You know, first of all, the opportunity to do that, man,

1065
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,919
Speaker 2: it's just especially with a great group, you know, it's rare,

1066
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:53,919
Speaker 2: especially in the league, man, when you get a nice,

1067
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: you know, time period to settle in with a group

1068
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 2: and play basketball and learn and grow. So it was

1069
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 2: good to have that opportunity and then to win too,

1070
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 2: you know, how special that was and the experience and

1071
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 2: you know, to come back with the same team. Like

1072
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 2: I said, that business sometimes gets in a way, but

1073
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 2: that grind every day, man, is just that focus that

1074
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 2: you have to be on. And like in the playoffs,

1075
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. In the series, you know,

1076
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 2: when you get to each round, it gets it's a

1077
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 2: little tougher and tougher, the rotation is a little tighter.

1078
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 2: You might play seven to eight guys. Now you got

1079
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 2: to play forty two minutes instead of thirty seven, so

1080
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 2: you got to be more focused for a couple more minutes,

1081
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 2: you know. So it's like you just got to reach

1082
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 2: another level every day with your mentality and that's tough

1083
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 2: to get up every day and do that, you know

1084
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 2: what I mean, out your bed and really focus on

1085
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 2: like cannot be the greatest finals level focus that can

1086
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 2: be every single night. And that's the grind, you know,

1087
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 2: and it's hard to do it, but that's what we

1088
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 2: get paid to do. That's what we love to do.

1089
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 2: What else can we always supposed to do with our time,

1090
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So it's like that's the

1091
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 2: hardest part, is the mental part of it. Now, because

1092
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 2: when you win and you get some success, you expect

1093
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 2: to wake up and just be like, shit, I'm just chilling,

1094
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I got two chips, I'm

1095
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 2: doing whatever I want. I got bread, I can fly

1096
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 2: wherever I want. Let's just but I just want to

1097
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 2: keep playing and see how good I can get at

1098
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 2: the game. And then if I get we accomplished a

1099
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: lot as a team, that's that's even better. But that

1100
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 2: grind and getting up every day, man, it's tough.

1101
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 3: So for me, what I like, I look at you

1102
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 3: is like one of the best offensive players in the

1103
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 3: history of the game. Right, So how do you feel

1104
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 3: when you walk into the gym and you you know.

1105
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 4: You're getting ready to hope, you getting ready for the game.

1106
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 3: You got Steph and Clay on your team, like when

1107
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 3: you already yourself is one of the most lead through

1108
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 3: offensive weapons in the history of the game. And then

1109
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 3: you sit there and you turn around while you throwing

1110
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 3: your jersey on. You got two of the greatest shooters

1111
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 3: to ever put jerseys on.

1112
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 4: Period. It's just with you, like, how how does that feel? Like?

1113
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 3: You you already, like Steve Knight said, you are bad.

1114
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 3: You feel me and then you got these two light

1115
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 3: skinning murderers.

1116
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 2: With Yeah, I mean just you got to dudes that

1117
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 2: can shoot the accurate, you know, that consistent, you know

1118
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It's just like you they reliable every

1119
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 2: night with the jump shot. You know, you gotta respect

1120
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 2: everything else because they opened up so much for the team,

1121
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 2: and like just knowing that you're running with some dudes

1122
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 2: that love to play and they work on the craft

1123
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 2: every day and care about its just as much as

1124
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 2: you and make it coming into every game fun, you know,

1125
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 2: because you never know what they could do. Clay hit

1126
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:36,240
Speaker 2: fourteen threes in the game, and that's what's on random

1127
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 2: day back to back. I'm like, after struggling, after struggling,

1128
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, where's this. I've never seen this before? Out

1129
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 2: of nowhere like that, and then Steph Will had fifty

1130
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 2: one and three quarters and it's just like the crowd

1131
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 2: going crazy. Feel like you have to park playing with

1132
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 2: these dudes, and it's like, that's that real, that's how

1133
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 2: basketball supposed to be played, and that's how I enjoy

1134
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 2: playing the game. And then you got three snipers out

1135
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 2: there like that, dude, I can shoot that thing fair,

1136
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 2: Come on, man, it's good to see the ball go

1137
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,760
Speaker 2: to the rim man hit that net after a jump shot.

1138
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 2: That's what the best feelings on the court. How has

1139
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 2: it sharpened your game?

1140
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: From taking twenty to twenty five shots getting your thirty

1141
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: or your thirty five points to now you might get

1142
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,760
Speaker 1: thirty with twelve shots, you might get thirty with fifteen shots.

1143
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 1: You don't really get no more than fifteen shots. But

1144
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: to go from shooting all all the shots to every

1145
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 1: shot gotta count. Yeah, when you shoot? How much did

1146
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 1: that sharpen you up? Because I know sharp may allow

1147
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: you out a lot like you see it like.

1148
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it was adjustment because I didn't realize how

1149
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 2: tough that is on a ninth to ninth basis. When

1150
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 2: if I'm one for seven, two for eight to start

1151
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 2: the game, I usually can shoot myself out of that

1152
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 2: and get back to twelve for twenty whatever whatever forty eight,

1153
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 2: forty nine percent is. But on this team, I might

1154
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 2: not be able to have the time, first of all,

1155
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 2: because we blowing teams out sometimes to get back to

1156
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 2: where I want to get to. It's just a rhythm

1157
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 2: where I feel good, my next shot feel good. Not

1158
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 2: just a percentage, but just like, I know my jump

1159
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 2: shot feel perfect right now, you know what I'm saying.

1160
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 2: So like it was taking me a little bit longer

1161
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,240
Speaker 2: to get back to that point, whereas like I'm feeling great.

1162
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 2: So now I'm like, all right, if I get four

1163
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 2: shots the first quarter, I gotta make sure a couple

1164
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 2: of those are the easiest ones I can get or not,

1165
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 2: just like I'm shooting step back three my first shot

1166
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 2: or catching shoot fade away my second shot. I'm just like,

1167
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 2: let me get the easy ones first, then open my

1168
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 2: game up from the layups to the mid range, and

1169
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,919
Speaker 2: then if I'm feeling good, I can knock down three.

1170
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 2: So I just really started thinking like a big like

1171
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 2: can I get some layers? Can I get a mid range? Like,

1172
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 2: let me see if I can get a couple bunnies first,

1173
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 2: and see how my jay working tonight. If it's not working,

1174
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 2: then I can't be forcing all night from the three,

1175
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 2: just trying to find it. Then I end up shooting

1176
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 2: forty four percent on the week, and then I'm like,

1177
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 2: oh shit, I'm in a week long slum, and I'm like,

1178
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 2: let me hurry up and get out. Don't even think

1179
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 2: about that. I just want to make sure my j

1180
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 2: feel good. I want to shoot well every night, take

1181
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 2: good shots. And it's good figuring the game out that way,

1182
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 2: because anybody could play a radock and like, I got

1183
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 2: forty shots to work with tonight. Let me just do anything.

1184
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 2: Let me just take you take your heat check. You

1185
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 2: don't take no heat check. No, I'm trying to. I

1186
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 2: still do. I still got it done. No, not as many. No,

1187
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,720
Speaker 2: I still had those games. Like last game, I'm searching

1188
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 2: for a bucket because I couldn't make a shot or

1189
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 2: we couldn't generate no offense. So I'm like, HESI three,

1190
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 2: that's a terrible shot, but I'm just praying it go in.

1191
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, I know it's not gonna go in, but

1192
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 2: let me just try it. But I don't want to

1193
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 2: take those shots no more, you know what I mean.

1194
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 2: So I'm trying to. I'm trying to get that little

1195
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 2: stuff out the game. That's why I'm at with it now.

1196
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 3: So talk about how it felt to actually win the championship.

1197
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 4: What did that feel like to you? Like, what did

1198
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 4: you do?

1199
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 3: Did that make you feel like people could shut the

1200
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 3: hell up talking to me?

1201
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 4: Or did you just not even pay at tiens?

1202
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 3: That were just too happy and just into your happiness,

1203
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 3: Like did you go like, man, I'm about to fall

1204
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 3: out to something like Champ, Like nobody can't say nothing

1205
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 3: to me like Champ, I'm about to go crazy this

1206
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 3: something like like.

1207
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 4: We talked at JR.

1208
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 3: Like he went shirtless, he went shirtless, jar Like what

1209
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 3: did you ain't to do anything crazy?

1210
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 4: Like wow? Or was you just like how was you? So?

1211
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 2: I watched the NBA so much, and I watch all

1212
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 2: those moments you know, growing up, and you just I

1213
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 2: was just seeing so many celebration of confetti, the ceremony

1214
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 2: and families on the court taking pictures and just the

1215
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 2: music behind that. So I'm just like thinking about that

1216
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 2: all the time before you win a chip, like I

1217
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 2: want to see what that's like. So I just want

1218
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 2: to experience what it's like when that buzzer go off

1219
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 2: and you know you're Champ and everybody running from the

1220
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 2: sideline like those visuals. That's all I was thinking about, Like, Damn,

1221
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 2: my family, I know how they gonna come down. They're

1222
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 2: gonna meet me in the bathroom taking pictures like I

1223
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 2: just wanted to. I just wanted to really actually physically

1224
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 2: go through that moment. So when I when I did

1225
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 2: it and I got home, I I'm just sitting back

1226
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 2: playing it. I went to sleep at like six am,

1227
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 2: and then I woke up and I set up on

1228
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 2: the couch the next day and watched TV. And then

1229
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,919
Speaker 2: my summer kept going, and I'm like, damn, this ship,

1230
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 2: Like this is really what it is? Like this is

1231
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 2: simple as as it is. Like I might have went

1232
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 2: out to the club a couple of weeks later, but

1233
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 2: I was gonna do that anyway. You know what I'm saying.

1234
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 2: Like my ship just kept going.

1235
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 3: So I'm like, I just remember like seeing you in

1236
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 3: an interview and I don't remember who did the interview.

1237
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 3: I was like, Yo, they is looking for like some

1238
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 3: type of like emotional boy. It's not like I was like, yo,

1239
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 3: he chilled right now. He's like, yo, we tramped like

1240
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 3: I'm MVP. I just murdered everybody like all right, cool,

1241
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 3: Like but I'm not really about I'm not about to cry,

1242
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 3: I'm not about doing none of this. I was like

1243
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 3: you could tell that they was like, especially after you

1244
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 3: gave the emotional MVPSP.

1245
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 4: I think they was like looking looking for that moment.

1246
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 3: It was like I was looking like yo, he not

1247
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 3: like they're trying to like they asking the questions looking

1248
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:00,040
Speaker 3: to get it out.

1249
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 2: Of No, like that was cool to do that at

1250
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 2: this moment, Like it was cool to do Plus, we

1251
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,479
Speaker 2: knew that we had a great opportunity and it wasn't

1252
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 2: a surprise us. It wasn't like, man like, let's just

1253
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 2: see what we got this year, Like we come into

1254
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 2: the season like we want to win a championship. We

1255
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 2: got the team to do it. Let's go do it.

1256
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 2: Let's just finish the job. So after the first one,

1257
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 2: the first one was emotional, it was different emotions and

1258
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 2: you feel more excited and you know you want that

1259
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 2: feeling lasts a little longer. But and for me, the

1260
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 2: second one was just more like, man, we're actually building something.

1261
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 2: You know, we're a nice team, Like people looking at

1262
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 2: us as it's one of the best teams to ever

1263
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 2: play in this game. So it's like that's the cool

1264
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 2: part about it. Obviously, the moment was nice. You know,

1265
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 2: we want to everybody expecting you to be emotional, but

1266
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 2: it's just like knowing that you kind of stamp yourself

1267
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 2: a little bit in history. So far. I'm thirty years old,

1268
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 2: I'm like, shit, that's cool to me.

1269
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 4: He got some ways.

1270
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that's pretty cool. So that's how I thought

1271
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 2: about it.

1272
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: Confidence is a big thing, Like where do you get

1273
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: your confidence from? Because I know, like with you, you

1274
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,240
Speaker 1: played a lot of basketball on the streets, off the streets,

1275
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: on the highest level, and I know you feel there

1276
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 1: can't no man go shoot at all, like you playing

1277
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: the game against yourself.

1278
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:12,839
Speaker 2: Let me say it's some dudes out there. I feel

1279
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 2: that that make the game tough for me. It's some

1280
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 2: defenders out there, because I don't want to act like

1281
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 2: I'm just sweeping to everybody. I respect the dudes that

1282
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 2: go hard against me every night because they make me

1283
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 2: better and I'm always remember those type of dudes. But

1284
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 2: I also know I can get minds off on anybody.

1285
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 2: I feel so once I start doing it at the

1286
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 2: playgrounds coming up, and then I was doing in the

1287
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 2: middle school in high school, and they went up each level,

1288
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 2: and then I did in the finals, I was like,

1289
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 2: oh yeah, it's stamped in my mind, like nobody can

1290
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 2: stop me anywhere, and like or I can get my

1291
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 2: shit off anywhere, and I feel good playing ball on

1292
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 2: any court, and I know they gonna pick me top

1293
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 2: five picks anywhere. If we got two guys lined up anybody,

1294
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 2: I'm like they, I know they gonna pick this dude.

1295
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 2: They gonna pick me because I can shoot and I'm tall,

1296
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So I got that. I

1297
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 2: feel like I can play on any court at any

1298
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 2: time with anybody. I'm like, shit, what I got to

1299
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 2: worry about playing ball? Let me just hoop. That's how

1300
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 2: I kind of approach it. And it's been fun for

1301
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 2: me ever since. Who is the best defender? Tony Allen

1302
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 2: in Chicago? Man Chicago? That's how shout out t A.

1303
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 4: Okay, t A.

1304
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 3: That's how you got d saying you're the best defender

1305
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 3: league now in the league now, it's a lot of

1306
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 3: dude gouard you that.

1307
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 2: Trevor Reeves is tough because he got i Q and

1308
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 2: he long athletic, and he gonna just play with you.

1309
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 2: Sometimes he might play a little bit mad at or

1310
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 2: let you get to the cup late. He played a

1311
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 2: game with you. He actually a hooper. I ain't realize

1312
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 2: that until yeah, he actually thanked the game on another low.

1313
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 2: So I like PJ. Tucker because he's just those physical dudes.

1314
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 2: They make me think a little bit because he used

1315
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 2: to come in a game straight elbowed me. So I'm like,

1316
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 2: all right, i gotta ready for this tonight. I know

1317
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 2: what I'm meant to so do Like PJ. Tucker, they

1318
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 2: try to get me, get into me a little bit,

1319
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 2: but have me thinking about other stuff. I can't really

1320
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 2: try to body and post up, get my post up

1321
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 2: game all the time on guys like that, so I

1322
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 2: gotta move around a bit. So I'm thinking as I'm

1323
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 2: having these defenders on me, and then point guards usually

1324
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 2: do a good job with their hands because I'm so

1325
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 2: long in my dribbel they use their hands a lot.

1326
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 2: But if i get a little bit of space and

1327
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,919
Speaker 2: I'm inside of the three, I feel like I'm making

1328
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 2: one hundred percent of them.

1329
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 3: I hated god hat I used to do it. File Bro,

1330
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 3: I'm telling you I could first come to the game.

1331
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, he's skinny, I'm strong. I'm gonna

1332
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 3: make him feel me first. The first thing I'm gonna

1333
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 3: do is come in and throw them, getting into his chest,

1334
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:49,479
Speaker 3: trying like, look, it ain't gonna beat this tonight, young boy,

1335
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 3: and it's like Bro, soon as he raised up, that's

1336
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 3: why I used to tell people like, bro, nah, if

1337
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 3: he raised.

1338
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 4: Up over you, it's over.

1339
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 3: Like I'm talking about I'm going I'm guarding as soon

1340
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 3: as you get to avery.

1341
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 4: And he lived it is curtains, it ain't. He don't

1342
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 4: see nobody.

1343
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 2: That's how I started simplifying my game playing against guys

1344
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 2: like that, because I grew up playing on the crossing

1345
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 2: long all that extra stuff, and then these dudes used

1346
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 2: to get their elbows at me and put it put

1347
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 2: their shoulders in me, something like let me look at

1348
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 2: this spot, run right to it and just shoot it.

1349
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: You long and agile, and you gotta have defense, Like

1350
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: I thought you had good defense in OKC. Now that

1351
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: you're on a championship winning team, they tried to say

1352
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: that all of a sudden, you got this brand new defense,

1353
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: Like you didn't block week shot side shots or play

1354
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 1: good defense.

1355
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 2: You're not a gambler.

1356
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: You're not the one to run through the passing lane,

1357
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 1: and you're not a big gambler, but you played good

1358
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: enough defense where you can guard the other best player

1359
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: and go back and forth like how does it feeld of?

1360
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: Like they finally recognize, like, man, I can play defense.

1361
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 2: I've been can playing defense. Yeah, man, it's cool when

1362
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 2: your coaches just trust you to guard anybody. You know,

1363
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 2: they might throw me on James Harden for a few

1364
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 2: possessions or CP or you know Kyrie one possession and

1365
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 2: Broun I have to guard him for full series, you

1366
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So it maybe guard a four

1367
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 2: man here and there on the switch. So just feeling

1368
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 2: like I'm not a liability out there. You know, I

1369
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 2: never wanted to beat one of the dudes that like,

1370
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 2: yo sup out of defense, Like I ain't never want

1371
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 2: to be one of those dudes that was on the

1372
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 2: sideline at the end of a game. So like I

1373
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 2: always kind of play defense or try to learn defense

1374
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 2: with with that kind of thought in the back of

1375
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 2: my mind. So like, how can I stay down on

1376
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 2: pump fakes, not foul use my length, but not gamble.

1377
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 2: If I see something, try to take it. But usually

1378
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 2: just try to play the percentages with my length, because like,

1379
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 2: if you're shooting over me all night, I like my chances. Man,

1380
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 2: if you knocking them in, I'm like, you know, I

1381
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 2: need you to make a shot like I did my job.

1382
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 2: So I try to play that way, keep it simple

1383
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 2: and Once I did that, I became I was able

1384
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 2: to kind of guard different sizes and different styles out there.

1385
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 2: And shit, now I can play. If I could play

1386
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 2: forty eight, they'll keep me out there, you know what

1387
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So like, as long as I can play

1388
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 2: every section of the floor, I'm silent.

1389
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 1: I want you to ask you to top five all time,

1390
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 1: all time, but my top five, I'll tell you my

1391
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 1: top five all right. Out of my top five, like

1392
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 1: the seventies and sixties, I kind of leave out like

1393
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 1: the Chamberlains, the Elgin, Baylor and me too with them,

1394
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 1: like just Lessen. It's just all respect but kind of

1395
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 1: them eighties on up for real.

1396
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 2: For me, that's really kind of my history here.

1397
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 4: Look, you got the top five.

1398
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 1: And my top five is is Michael Jordan of course

1399
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 1: is number one to me. Kareem Abdul Jabbar is number two,

1400
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant it's number three, Shack.

1401
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 2: It's number four.

1402
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: Just just seeing these they dominating Abillity and.

1403
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 2: Lebron probably a by the end of his career. Is

1404
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 2: my number five?

1405
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 1: Going off what I'm going off, Like I say, you

1406
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: kind of lead the chamberlains and stuff. Just give them

1407
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 1: the praise and respect and not just holling them out,

1408
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: but just me being then eighties. Baby, who would you

1409
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 1: say your top five is Mike if you can put

1410
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 1: him in the order, Mike obviously, one.

1411
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 2: Kobe, two, Shock, three, Hakeen, I say, Haquen four, Magic, magic, magic.

1412
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:30,439
Speaker 4: Oh, I can't argue with you and here mine.

1413
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say Kareem, but I'm like, Keen

1414
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 2: was just as good. Kareem is the he's all time.

1415
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 2: But I think on the court, though he the leading

1416
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 2: in all points and everything, I know what I'm saying.

1417
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 2: Though nobody, come on, ha Keen had the dream he

1418
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 2: can't be stopped on Like.

1419
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 3: I feel like Kareem played against a different generation of players.

1420
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 1: Though no man Louis Center, man from Louel Center to

1421
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: Kareem like he won on all levels. They don't give

1422
01:03:56,400 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 1: Kareem actually the praise that he actually deserve. The only

1423
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 1: person I've seen that I agree with like what it

1424
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 1: was is like Mike, but Kareem, like I had the

1425
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 1: most hard to get the points, like the hook shot

1426
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 1: that ain't nobody do, timeless, nobody can't even do this

1427
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 1: shot that should have still he was doing. He was

1428
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 1: doing it fluently like it was like with the shake

1429
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 1: with it, and he was off the catch with it

1430
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 1: so as all the catch like you can't blocking and

1431
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 1: all that stuff. And he won on every level since

1432
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 1: he been playing the game, like every level he was

1433
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 1: the most the best player in the league.

1434
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 2: He was. He was the most dominant easily and it

1435
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 2: was nice and graceful to It wasn't like everybody.

1436
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, And that's why I give

1437
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 1: him his props, like he was sure it's dominating, Like.

1438
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 2: No, for sure he is. I'm looking at it from

1439
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 2: like a pure skilled standpoint when it comes to like

1440
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 2: it's like a toss up between to me, Kareem and

1441
01:04:58,040 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 2: har King, because it's just like.

1442
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 4: King was more skilled.

1443
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 2: Keem had that he would cross.

1444
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: Everything like all them players, all them players I named

1445
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: in my top four. They was the best player in

1446
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 1: the league more than three to four years.

1447
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 2: The best player in the league won. Nobody in the

1448
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 2: league better than if if Kareem was in the league

1449
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 2: with MJ Will he been the best player. I'm just

1450
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 2: saying so King was though, so he was he was

1451
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 2: in the world. Was playing baseball when rings he won

1452
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 2: two rings, but everybody know who was the greatest player though.

1453
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 2: That's what I'm the best player in the world was

1454
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 2: playing baseball when the King, so King, we knew the

1455
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 2: best basketballs though for two years. I'm saying, I'm just

1456
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:51,919
Speaker 2: saying he was. He was the next in line after

1457
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 2: m J. But MJ was number one.

1458
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 1: Kareem them two years and he was the best player.

1459
01:05:57,600 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 1: He would have did something with m v P.

1460
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 3: Shock that that that's top. No, nobody can Shack was

1461
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 3: the best player.

1462
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 2: Shack was so dominant.

1463
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 3: King was the one who Shock gives it up to

1464
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 3: say that he gave him the business and finals.

1465
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 4: Shack says in him the final.

1466
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 2: He was a young young Shock. He was younger. He

1467
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 2: was a young Shack.

1468
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 4: He was young. This is what this is.

1469
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 3: Whbody like you, this is what I'm saying, like different crime, Shock.

1470
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 3: Nobody in the history of the game.

1471
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,479
Speaker 2: Went three piece Shock. No, No, he was the most

1472
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:33,919
Speaker 2: dominant person I've ever seen anywhere your entire game. That's

1473
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 2: what I'm saying though.

1474
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 4: So that's what nobody argued.

1475
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 1: That when when when Kareem was doing his thing, Kareem

1476
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 1: was the best player in the world for at least

1477
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 1: four to five years that's cool.

1478
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 4: It was even will throw like.

1479
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan to me was the best player in the

1480
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 1: world from eighty nine again to ninety seven.

1481
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 4: He makes all of them look like Chris Dudley dunking

1482
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 4: on him. That's how you make.

1483
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:01,959
Speaker 2: Him look Shock was Shock was dominant. But like you said,

1484
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 2: like that little period, like when you're like the clear

1485
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 2: cut best player in the league for like more than

1486
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 2: three years, four years, then like it's impressive. That's impressive

1487
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 2: right there.

1488
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 1: If you can get three four years of being the

1489
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 1: best player in the league.

1490
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:21,479
Speaker 2: But I'm saying is like haking Hakim like he he

1491
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:24,479
Speaker 2: wasn't better than MJ. MJ was the best player even

1492
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 2: as before he won them championships with when MJ went

1493
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 2: to go play, MJ was still the best player in

1494
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 2: the world. We're talking in the world. But I'm just

1495
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 2: saying ha King was still nice as ship but playing

1496
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 2: in the same league. So if you switch them to

1497
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 2: and put Kareem, you wouldn't just say he was clear

1498
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 2: cut the best player over MJ. That's what I'm saying.

1499
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 2: You switch those like it's hard for Harkin to be

1500
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 2: that great with MJ was in the league with him,

1501
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:49,919
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. It's like just like this time,

1502
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 2: we ain't really had nobody that was that good in

1503
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 2: the league with him like that, Like M like great,

1504
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I play your era. I'm not saying that.

1505
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like they both would have been second

1506
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 2: behind MJ.

1507
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 1: I feel, yeah, I feel like you're the best player

1508
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 1: in the world right now. Like you the best player

1509
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: in the world right now, you pick up the chours,

1510
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 1: you can be the best player in the world for

1511
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 1: another three, four or five years, and now you in

1512
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 1: half a decade of the best player to be the

1513
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 1: best player in the NBA in the world.

1514
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 2: We talk about best players though, like I try not

1515
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 2: to even now, like.

1516
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:27,639
Speaker 4: That ain't for you to judge.

1517
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 2: That ain't for you. I'm not saying that's the judge.

1518
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 2: But it's just like now we're really talking about it

1519
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:35,919
Speaker 2: is like we got different tastes when we're talking.

1520
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 3: About even when we talk about the older guys.

1521
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 2: Dominating games, like these dudes these really was dominating games

1522
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 2: on the same level, but one team was winning more

1523
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:48,759
Speaker 2: and so we say this guy might have been the greatest,

1524
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 2: but like these dudes are actually doing kind of the

1525
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 2: same stuff out there, like putting up the same dominant numbers.

1526
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 2: When Kobe won't winning, when making the playoffs or going

1527
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 2: home first round, he was still killing. He was the best.

1528
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 2: That's what in the world. That's all I look like.

1529
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 1: I'm talking about he going home first round of Phoenix.

1530
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:09,560
Speaker 1: Everybody in the league know that Kobe was the best.

1531
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 3: Player and the one say the best. When I look

1532
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 3: at these dudes, I'm like, this dude is unguardable.

1533
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 2: That's why anybody on the floor, I think he's the

1534
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 2: best guy walking on his court right now. I've seen

1535
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 2: that with Mike on every court, and I also seen

1536
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 2: that with like I came to like, I was like,

1537
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 2: I can't my eyes can't lie. I see these dudes

1538
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 2: take over every game they be. I'm not taking away

1539
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 2: from nobody because it was. It was a lot of.

1540
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,639
Speaker 1: Good players, a lot of good players in the era.

1541
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 1: Grant Hill like like you had great players, Like you know,

1542
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 1: the dream team was full of great player. But to

1543
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 1: be amongst the wolves is the leader of the pack.

1544
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 1: It's somebody who's on no noumero, Like when time Jordan

1545
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 1: had to work his.

1546
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 2: Way up, Like when Jordan was doing this thing, Magic.

1547
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 1: Isaiah and Larry Bird. They fighting to be the best

1548
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 1: player in the world.

1549
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 3: That's that's one of the main reasons that I feel

1550
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 3: that Kobe is constantly disrespected.

1551
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:06,719
Speaker 4: In this whole.

1552
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:10,720
Speaker 3: But that's everything. No, I'm not saying that y'all did it.

1553
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 3: I'm just saying period. I feel like like I'm I

1554
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:18,600
Speaker 3: literally had to guard him Prime three P all the

1555
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 3: way to whatever you want to say, like playing bro,

1556
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 3: it's different, Bro, you hear me, Like, please, what are

1557
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 3: y'all talking about?

1558
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:28,679
Speaker 2: My top five?

1559
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 4: Is MJ Kobe easy? Kobe easy?

1560
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 2: Number two? Ever? Exactly? I don't want to say nothing too.

1561
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:41,680
Speaker 3: It's like they're just up here, man, Bro, Like m

1562
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 3: of skilled man J is MJ Kobe shack.

1563
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 4: Then I'm going Lebron, Then I go Kareem.

1564
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 2: I like to put these dudes in there when they

1565
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 2: were retired though, Like that's when like I really wanted.

1566
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 3: Like I really wouldn't, like I really don't really use

1567
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 3: Kareem as a measure room stick because he like he

1568
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 3: said he's in the seventies and pre all of that,

1569
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 3: and like he just greatness.

1570
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 4: I don't want to even really mess with that.

1571
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 2: To me, he like one of the founding fathers him just.

1572
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 3: Like over there over there, mess with them, like you

1573
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, like the towers of this whole ship, y'all,

1574
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 3: y'all help build this whole thing.

1575
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 2: So it's like it's hard to put them in there,

1576
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 2: big fellas like.

1577
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 3: And then that's what I'm saying, Like that's why I

1578
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:30,680
Speaker 3: kind of just lead them over there. But like they

1579
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 3: really positional players, like dominant just at that position.

1580
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 2: I'm on the block with it.

1581
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 3: And I feel like we have to put I can't

1582
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 3: not put Shack in it. Because he the baddest her

1583
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 3: to walk this planet like that.

1584
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:44,679
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

1585
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 3: Like, man, he was and he seriously, he seriously, he

1586
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 3: transcends any I don't care what what year, what what era?

1587
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 3: What monster killed everybody? Nobody in no year, no time

1588
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 3: was bigger or strong. They can't deal with it.

1589
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 4: Your name him Will Darryl Dogg and none of them here.

1590
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 3: He'll make all of them look like little kids, like

1591
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:10,959
Speaker 3: for real, he was a monster.

1592
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 2: He was the first one that big, that big, to

1593
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 2: move that that easy, because you know all the other

1594
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 2: bigs was long and lanky. He moved so fast and

1595
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 2: he was dunking stuff so easy. I'm like, how does

1596
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:23,599
Speaker 2: this dude get to play in the league?

1597
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 3: And Daryl dawk and shattered glasses like he brought down

1598
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 3: the whole whole backdations.

1599
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 4: Of the home.

1600
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 2: You hear me shocking people like y'all playing against shocking

1601
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 2: the three p Why we had the number, they had

1602
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,720
Speaker 2: the number one and steel and they started games off

1603
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 2: doing what tossing that three?

1604
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 1: The number one and number two player in the league.

1605
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 1: The number one and number two players in the league

1606
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:53,639
Speaker 1: was on the same team when we got to the league.

1607
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.

1608
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 3: You had a chair for a few Cody, like you

1609
01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 3: remember you remember the scene and loving basketball when Sonio

1610
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 3: late that she defended in this like it's crazy, Like

1611
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 3: that's my description every time guarding Koche like like bro

1612
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:09,679
Speaker 3: the man.

1613
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 2: Like everybody know.

1614
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 3: It was at one point where he literally is the

1615
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 3: one player in the league. He might shoot the left hand.

1616
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 3: He'll do anything. You can't put nothing past them.

1617
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:23,519
Speaker 2: He'll do anything. That's what I'm saying.

1618
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 3: He was out there like I tried on you, boy,

1619
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:27,679
Speaker 3: like you got I try something and not even care,

1620
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:30,800
Speaker 3: Like I try something on you and then like how

1621
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 3: you out there like, bro, this.

1622
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:34,719
Speaker 2: Dude here doing some shit.

1623
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 3: What he was like and they disrespect them constantly. He

1624
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 3: was just nobody had the mentality that he had.

1625
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 4: Like man, that man.

1626
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 3: Would like, it's killed everybody all the time. Can't nobody

1627
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 3: fight me? You say something to me, I'm putting fifty

1628
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 3: on you and I'm not saying it.

1629
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 4: I'm talking about literally, I'm about to try.

1630
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 2: And put fifty here, yes.

1631
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 4: Like, and I'm ana talk bad.

1632
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 3: I'm a man play five or six seasonal leagues man,

1633
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:01,719
Speaker 3: And that man was a killer.

1634
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 2: I was staying up late seeing in high school, watching

1635
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 2: him going to work. I watched the eighty one point

1636
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:08,640
Speaker 2: game live and when he got the cooking and that

1637
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 2: night I was like, this is the greatest this is

1638
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 2: the greatest player I've ever seen. I really thought that

1639
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 2: that night. I'm like, man, he's shooting phase. He coming

1640
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 2: into the lane, stopping on the donkeys, two pump fakes

1641
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 2: right before three seconds. I'm paying the.

1642
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 3: Hard physically but trying get man, okay, screaming on you

1643
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 3: HEDNK like oh.

1644
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 4: Okay, you okay, that's what you Okay, I'm about to.

1645
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 2: He was scrinting like all the best defenders that I

1646
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 2: heard of in the league coming up, like before I

1647
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 2: got into the league. Bruce Bowen, the Shane Battier's, the

1648
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:44,759
Speaker 2: Roger Bells, like he was really going right at them

1649
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 2: every night, and he was really trying to punk them,

1650
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 2: like he really tried to show like they was good defenders.

1651
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:52,680
Speaker 2: They got paid for playing defense.

1652
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 4: And like nah, going crazy.

1653
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 2: Nobody was gonna get no name. You weren't getting the

1654
01:14:56,520 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 2: Kobe Stopper name, Rub Pattinson. They stop game winners on

1655
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:03,640
Speaker 2: that ball. He was cooking the people's man. Like he

1656
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 2: too good in this league because like he was like

1657
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 2: the rest of the two guys in the league was

1658
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 2: catching shoot threes, or they was great defenders or they

1659
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 2: could really shoot, and they's pick and roll guys. It

1660
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 2: was like not a complete two guard around at that time,

1661
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 2: not real complete.

1662
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 3: Like cold, Hey, we played, we do this one thing

1663
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 3: on hill that we go like it was it better

1664
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 3: in the nineties or now. We won't want to keep

1665
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 3: you forever, so we want to try and wrap it up.

1666
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:31,720
Speaker 3: But like I could talk to y'all, right, right, we

1667
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,440
Speaker 3: could do this. That's why I'm better.

1668
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 1: Today or better in the nineties. Jerseys, the jerseys in

1669
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 1: the nineties is better. Thursday in the nineties was better.

1670
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, technology better today, but the style was better.

1671
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:49,719
Speaker 3: So what's your So, what's your favorite jerseys from the nineties.

1672
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 3: I know mine off the top, but the old school

1673
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 3: new Jersey names Drives and Petrovic joints, the Blue Light Blue.

1674
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 2: Join the red joints was hard. The Sons, I got it,

1675
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 2: that's just a classic joint. The Sons with the same

1676
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 2: that was okay. And the Grizzlies Vancouver Grizzlies joints was fine.

1677
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say that.

1678
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 3: Toronto, Toronto and start of mind. That was the first

1679
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 3: time that was like the funkiest NBA zer trying to

1680
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 3: wrap the Hall. That was the one purple joint with

1681
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:27,799
Speaker 3: the stripes. And when Orlando dropped that black pen.

1682
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 2: The Chicago Bulls.

1683
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:35,840
Speaker 4: Like after that, we been after the after the magic.

1684
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 2: It was after the magic, but that was still stupid hard.

1685
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 2: Better in the nineties or better now.

1686
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 1: The layup line, like how they're doing the video when

1687
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 1: everybody jumped when.

1688
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 2: They do you know how you like in the ninety

1689
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 2: day whack.

1690
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 4: I like that.

1691
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 2: I like the regular layer line. Man, get you get

1692
01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 2: ready for the game, man, all that extra ship man.

1693
01:16:57,479 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 2: Get that to the nineties. Yeah, you couldn't. You couldn't

1694
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 2: touch the rails, so everybody had to go up there.

1695
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 2: Could you a quick little run back to half court?

1696
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 3: If you.

1697
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:13,440
Speaker 1: So hard, they're gonna break the goldt.

1698
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 2: Getting back then in the nineties is better.

1699
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 3: I kind of know the answer to this, but I'm

1700
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 3: gonna ask it anyway better than the nineties or now.

1701
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 2: R and B music, Come on, that's always on rails.

1702
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:26,680
Speaker 2: R and B in the nineties coming up only was

1703
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:30,640
Speaker 2: on the radio. Nowadays they probably feel its all types.

1704
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 4: Of on the R and B songs. You're gonna have

1705
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:34,759
Speaker 4: a feat a rapper feature.

1706
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:37,639
Speaker 1: It ain't just getting crazy, you know what I'm saying?

1707
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 1: Trap music? What about rap music? Better now in the nineties.

1708
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 2: See, that's the thing I've been thinking about that they're

1709
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:46,680
Speaker 2: more artistic now. They are artists at the end of

1710
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 2: the day, so they're a little bit more artistic with

1711
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 2: the sound now. But the straight bars back then is

1712
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 2: rapping about stuff. Back then? The content if he's a rapper,

1713
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 2: yeah no, I ain't no rapper, but I have rap

1714
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 2: for I heard the song.

1715
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:02,560
Speaker 3: I used to listen to the song with you and

1716
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:07,640
Speaker 3: five he really into it, really really into it.

1717
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 1: I was in Atlanta where he was really going in

1718
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 1: with the rapping stuff, really being.

1719
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 2: Focused on it.

1720
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 1: If you're stranding on the island, you needed five albums

1721
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 1: get you through it?

1722
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 2: On what is your five albums you need to get

1723
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 2: through through this island? Black album? Okay? Hole, uh confessions

1724
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 2: for me? Okay, that's a bar. I got to pick

1725
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:42,600
Speaker 2: a Drake album. He got it either Scorpion album and

1726
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 2: that's probably the best word to me. The new joint.

1727
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 2: You like that r B album and different vibes on

1728
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 2: that was rocking.

1729
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 3: So that got that Drake, we got Black album, we

1730
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:55,600
Speaker 3: got Ushers, Fashion d.

1731
01:18:55,920 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 2: Scorpion Midnight even rods try. Guy had to try vibes

1732
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 2: on the trip called call quest after that. That's a

1733
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:09,720
Speaker 2: tough question and you gotta have ready to die.

1734
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not mad at that. Top five solid five albums.

1735
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:20,520
Speaker 1: Dance Moves Better in the nineties, Better.

1736
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 2: Now, better now. It's so much, so much.

1737
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 3: An electric slide still lives today now, y'all.

1738
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 4: That's real.

1739
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 2: I think I like that.

1740
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 4: I like that.

1741
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:40,639
Speaker 3: I like the young kids though, I like to see

1742
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 3: it like the real young kids.

1743
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 4: The little little.

1744
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 3: Kid it be like, Yo, this is hilarious growing up

1745
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:49,719
Speaker 3: dancing on I won't see that. I ain't talking about

1746
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 3: the big kids. Better in the nineties and now I

1747
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 3: know this one in game dunks.

1748
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, nineties for sure. I mean Vince Carter was

1749
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 2: wind milling easy in games. There was a lot of

1750
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 2: body to buy it. I think what made it better.

1751
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:09,600
Speaker 3: What made it better in the nineties though, was the

1752
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 3: was that you got to actually show bow like when camp,

1753
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 3: like when Sean Kemp cradled that joint and Chris Blad

1754
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 3: and being pointed at him and like like now you

1755
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:21,600
Speaker 3: get throwed out the game staring or like you know

1756
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 3: something like.

1757
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 4: Back then you could stare people.

1758
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:26,679
Speaker 3: Now like Mike dunk on him and scream and screaming,

1759
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 3: you know, like point at him.

1760
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, all of that MJ shock dunk on.

1761
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 3: Nothing happened and Delly throw the ball at him like

1762
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 3: that's just hoops.

1763
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:38,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like now it's like you can't do anything.

1764
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 3: You scream, stare for like one sacon like tech Now

1765
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 3: you can't even look at him, but don't look at him.

1766
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:45,800
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, no, back then they was getting

1767
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 2: dunked on. Crazy dude was doing when Vince went baseline

1768
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 2: on Chris Mullen. I'm like, why do you even try that?

1769
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 2: How you try that in the game, Like you go

1770
01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:56,599
Speaker 2: baseline on a random drive and you just women come

1771
01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:59,879
Speaker 2: on the greatest dunk of all time.

1772
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 4: Scene him now out here doing it.

1773
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 2: She's about to dunk on call night. He is seven three.

1774
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 3: I ever think that him and his legacy and it

1775
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 3: wouldn't be about Duncan. It was no way right that

1776
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 3: his legacy wouldn't hang on Duncan. And this man then

1777
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 3: re rode everything he out there like it's a kind

1778
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 3: of records.

1779
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 2: It's sick to me because my first ever basketball jersey,

1780
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 2: I'm i mean third grade was Vince carteron now playing

1781
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 2: against him. That's just third grade and he's still in

1782
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 2: the league like that he's been around. That's crazy. Football

1783
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 2: better now in the nineties. In the nineties, for sure,

1784
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:54,559
Speaker 2: I mean it's safe for now though, yeah, it's safe

1785
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 2: for now. But in football, they was they they was

1786
01:21:56,880 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 2: hitting back then, they was hitting Steve Water honey lot,

1787
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 2: they was hitting them safeties was really putting the imprint

1788
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 2: on it. You linebackers was coming around corner man what

1789
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:12,720
Speaker 2: monanum defensive linement. I've seen the defensive line runner four

1790
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 2: to four the other day. I'm like, these boys getting.

1791
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 3: The dk Meca k metcals the physical specimen.

1792
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:23,559
Speaker 2: He run like four to three. You see like twenty

1793
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 2: seven times on a two twenty five rack. I'm like,

1794
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 2: who is this dude? He looks he looked like a linebacker.

1795
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:31,879
Speaker 2: He looked crazy. He a receiver.

1796
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 1: He's gonna be freaking havoc out there. That's like the

1797
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 1: two point ot o. Let's see if he can live

1798
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:37,640
Speaker 1: up to it.

1799
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 3: Man, that's a lot to put on them celebrations, better

1800
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:44,760
Speaker 3: now or better than the nineties.

1801
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 2: And in the nineties. Man, that's where it started. Really,

1802
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 2: to be honest, they had to rain y'all. They had

1803
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 2: to tone it down with y'all. Now, we can't do

1804
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:56,600
Speaker 2: nothing because y'all a wild out for about ten eleven years.

1805
01:22:57,439 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 4: They was like when we did that?

1806
01:22:59,880 --> 01:23:01,680
Speaker 2: The coaches, yeah, and.

1807
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 4: He's like, what we did, man?

1808
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 3: You know, we want to thank you for rocking woods

1809
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 3: right now. This is the you know, Q Rich D

1810
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 3: Miles and Knuckleheads live on location. We at San Francisco,

1811
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 3: straight across from the Golden Gate Bridge or whatever. Man,

1812
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 3: easy money, akak D brought us into space. Man, rocking Woods.

1813
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 3: We definitely appreciate it. Man, my stuff don't know.

1814
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 2: Man, Look.

1815
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 4: Yo.

1816
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 3: Check us out on Apple Podcasts or whever you listen, download, subscribe,

1817
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:32,240
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1818
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 4: We out here. We getting it in, knuckleheads yack