1 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: Wow, the Mets have traded Brandon Nimo to the Texas 2 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Rangers in exchange for Marcus Simeon. Before we get going 3 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: into this with our reactions our opinions, make sure you subscribe. 4 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: Subscribe to the Mets Up podcast for all your Mets 5 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: content will be coming at you as much as we can. 6 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: We really do appreciate it. James's initial reaction for me, 7 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: because mine. 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: Was like, WHOA, I mean, first reaction just in baseball 9 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 2: trades are back. We've had three major league for major 10 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: league player trades in the last five days, so that's 11 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: kind of cool to see. But gut reaction for the 12 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 2: Mets this. It was a priority for David Seerns to 13 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: trade Brandon Emo. Like we said that as the season 14 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: was ending. That was weirdly kind of both of our 15 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: bull predictions heading into the offseason. The fact that it 16 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: happened before Thanksgiving, before the Winter meetings is kind of crazy. 17 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: But this was something that it seemed like was a 18 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: real goal for them to set out to do, and 19 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: it seems like as long as you can get off 20 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: his contract, almost willing to take any back, and you 21 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: did take back a pretty bad one. Also, a Marcus EMMEI. 22 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I feel like a lot of Mets 23 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: fans where if this is the trade, meaning that this 24 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: is the move that the Mets make this this isn't 25 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: a domino that helps other ones fall. I don't like 26 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: the trade, but knowing David Sterns, knowing this Mets organization, 27 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: kind of seeing what the plan is, and again, I 28 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: think we've been kind of ahead of the game with 29 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: what we think David Surrns is gonna do in a 30 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: given offseason. We're talking about Nemo trades before anybody on Plannet. 31 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: We're talking about Brandon Demo trades. He's now been moved. 32 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: Surely this is gonna be opening up left field to 33 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: either get a Bellinger or maybe a Kyle Tucker or 34 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: I'll even throw it out there. I'm sure the Mets 35 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: are interested in a Fernando Tatis if he's available in 36 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: a trade. If that's if that's what we need to 37 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: do to get one of those guys, I like it. 38 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: If this is just a if we're just talking one 39 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: for one, Simeon for Nimo, I don't think the Mets 40 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: are a better team with Marcus Simeon over Brandon Nimo. 41 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: One for one, No, but I also don't. 42 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: Think there's any chances. 43 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 3: That it can't be. 44 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: It can't because if it is, Mets fans have every 45 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: right to riot, like that's a riotable trade. But surely 46 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: that's not the case. 47 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 2: No, And there's two parts of this trade that we're 48 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 2: going to have to think about a lot. One is 49 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: what you're saying, like everything happening on the field and 50 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: with the team, where it's like, now you have an 51 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: open spot left field, a plot that's much more easily 52 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 2: upgradeable offensive lead and spot in center field. Now you 53 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: have a better defensive second basement, something the Mets team wanted. 54 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: We know that they're also dying to trade Jeff McNeil. 55 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 2: I'm sure that news will come anytime in the next week. 56 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 2: Two week. 57 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: Feels like it could be in the next forty eight hours. 58 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: Honestly, it could be in the next forty eight minutes 59 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 2: before we stop recording this episode. But the other part 60 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 2: that there is a major emotional tie between Mey, you, 61 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 2: every Mets fan to Brandon Neimo, like Brandon Neimo has 62 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: been the Mets organization literally mark for you and I. 63 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 2: We're not we're not really spring chickens. Anymore for half 64 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 2: hour lives pretty much. Yeah, drafted twenty eleven, didn't play 65 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 2: high school baseball the American League, just stuff Cheyenne, Wyoming, 66 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 2: grinded up through the minor leagues, got You can't say 67 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: this about a lot of players got the most out 68 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 2: of the visibilities. Such a good player, Brandon Nemo wound 69 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 2: up in the top ten in Mets history in so 70 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: many different stats. Top ten home runs, top ten walks, 71 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: top ten on base percentage, top ten extra base hits, 72 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: top ten run scored, top ten in played appearances. He 73 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: took the ninth most played appearance for any men in 74 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: the history of this franchise. It's hard to kind of 75 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: let all that out of our minds. Right at the 76 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 2: same time, I can't get this nagging thought out of 77 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 2: my head that we've spoken about a lot in this show, 78 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 2: that there was just something about this core that wasn't 79 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: really didn't really never really clicked in, never really got 80 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: over the hump together. They never really were able to. 81 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: And this isn't anything specifically about Nemo. It's not about 82 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: pi Alonzo, it's not about Facisco indor, it's not about 83 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: Jeff McNeil individually, But as a unit. Those those guys, 84 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: that crew, that core. Whenever the pressure was on them, 85 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: they never really rose to the occasion. They one time 86 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: kind of exceeded expectations. A few times they had these 87 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: major chokes. And it's not the worst thing to me 88 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: to get a lot of changes going on in that 89 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: room right now. 90 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's it's very it's very bittersweet right now 91 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: because it's like the closing of one chapter, which like 92 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: I was talking to my dad because I'm back home 93 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: in Westfield now just for a couple of days, and 94 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: we were talking about it, and it's like, it's kind 95 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: of weird that, like looking back on Brandimo's time as 96 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: a met as much as like I loved Nemo when 97 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: we worked with the team, he was incredibly nice to us. 98 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: You got to do the interview with him when I 99 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: was out in Texas doing my nonsense over there. Yeah, 100 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: signed that contract. You got to talk to him, and 101 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: I got to talk to him on the field one 102 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: day when you were working and do like a little 103 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: mini TikTok interview with him. And he's always been incredibly nice. 104 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: He was a fantastic player for this organization. Like you mentioned, 105 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: he will go down as one of the better players 106 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 1: this organization that's ever had, and especially in our lifetime, 107 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: one of those guys where he is, He's up there 108 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: in terms of like my favorite Mets of all time. 109 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: But looking back, it's gonna be weird to be like 110 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: brand Nemo was kind of one of the Mets of 111 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: all time, Like he was good, but he didn't break 112 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: any of the records, wasn't here for any of the success. 113 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: He just kind of existed in this weird almost transitional 114 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: period between the will Ponds and the Cohen era. And 115 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: it seems like now to kind of bring it all 116 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: full circle. Now, it seems like, and I mentioned this before, 117 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: there's been still some Willpon Stink around. Not that Brandon 118 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: Nemo stinks, but at all, if you look at this 119 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: organization and the old era that was here and the 120 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: new era that's now coming with the Cohen stuff, Brandon 121 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: Nimmo was still a part weirdly of that old Mets 122 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: twenty eleven Willpon era, And maybe this is just something 123 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: that needed to happen for this team, for this organization. 124 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: Maybe this also helps Brandon Nimo, Like I'm sure he's 125 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 1: gonna go to Texas and be great. He is still 126 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: very very valuable to this team, very valuable to an organization. 127 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: It's just for the way that the Mets want to 128 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: build this roster and everything moving forward. He did kind 129 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: of get squeezed out a little bit. 130 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not a contract that David Stearns are 131 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: at this point any executive would have signed. Brand Neimo 132 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 2: was a free agent after this season. I don't think 133 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: he was getting five for one hundred or even the 134 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 2: five for ninety six like he wound up getting after 135 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 2: we kicked in five million total dollars to acquiesce this deal, 136 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 2: which is kind of funny to think about there, but 137 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 2: it's just it's it's a spot where the Rangers just 138 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 2: had an unbelievably bad season offensively, We just had an 139 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 2: unbelievably bad season in general, mostly from pitching. In defense. 140 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 2: They got something that's going to be huge upgrade for 141 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 2: a bat for them, and we got a huge upgrade. 142 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 2: We hope it defensively, and if you want to break 143 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 2: every single thing down, like I think that's at the 144 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 2: core of Thishle also still acknowledging all that baseball stuff, 145 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: but being kind of sad about like the Stegess, the 146 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 2: nostalgia brand Nemo, cause that's just one of our guys. 147 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: A human element of this is tearing me apart. Like 148 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: we've we've always talked about Nimo being traded on this, 149 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: but it never really felt real. And now that he 150 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,799 Speaker 1: has me, I'm like, like, damn it, Like I really 151 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: like Brandon Nimo and I'm gonna miss the child of God. 152 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: And I thought he was a good leader, and I'm 153 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: gonna miss him sprinting down to first base like all 154 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: this stupid little shit that he did every Like I 155 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: got to sit on the left field line a lot 156 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: this year and he waves to all the kids before 157 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: the games and he's talking to him, he's giving him 158 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: Baseball's like signed so many other signed, so many oographs. 159 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: He's genuinely one of the best guys in the entire sport. 160 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: So I hate to see him go. But like the 161 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: fucked up thing about how baseball is, and sometimes it's 162 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: really hard for us to separate, not us, but just 163 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: in general Mets fans, to separate being a fan from 164 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: wanting to win and all that kind of stuff is 165 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: like as good as it's felt with Brandon Mo being 166 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: around as happy and great as he's been nothing that 167 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: the end goal hasn't been accomplished, and at some point 168 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: this Mets team and organization does need to turn the 169 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: page and be like, we need to win a World Series. 170 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're the piece that gets us 171 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: to where we need to right now. 172 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 2: I think there's there's an acknowledgment by UI Mets fans 173 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: everywhere that this core doesn't have didn't have enough to 174 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 2: kind of get over the top, whether it be specifically 175 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: on the field skill. And also it seemed like locker 176 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: room cultural stuff because it we kept hearing about these 177 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 2: locker room issues over years over here, and there were 178 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 2: massive jokes multiple times, and massive times when you had 179 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: again like kind of teams who have the site set 180 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 2: on you, pressure was on you, their expectations on you. 181 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 2: Didn't deliver. But then now in actuality watching this core 182 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 2: get broken up, that hurts a little bit. And is 183 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: also this is now the precursor to Pilanzo. I actually 184 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: weirdly think this makes it more likely a lot comes back. 185 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: I love that rather than. 186 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: It makes me a little nervous, just because again it's 187 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: like cold blooded. It's cold blooded, which not bringing Pete 188 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: back I think would be stupid and cold blooded at 189 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: the same time. Again, my brain can't keep stop thinking 190 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: about like guys that weren't Sterns guys coming in. I 191 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: know Lindor technically is, but he's not going anywhere. Lindor's 192 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: fucking sick like. We know that where Nimo was no 193 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: longer that sick under like. He's still good, but he 194 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: was never that underrated king that he was back in 195 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: like twenty twenty two or even twenty twenty three. The 196 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: last two years offensively have been rough, and he's only 197 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: getting older, getting worse in the corner. That's where I'm 198 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: I like the killer and stinc of Sterens, but it 199 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: is weird to then go get an old second basement 200 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: as the fillin. 201 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I also think getting the old second basement 202 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 2: is the kind of situation where people around baseball looked 203 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: at this contract and were like, there's a bad contract, 204 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 2: Like Nimo, You're saying, right, yes, Nimo, but I to 205 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 2: get off such a bad contract and you have to 206 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 2: take on a bad contract. 207 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: There was almost no world that they were gonna be 208 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: able to trade Nimo and be feeling good about what 209 00:08:58,960 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: they'd get back. 210 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: No, It's funny because when we talked about possible places 211 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 2: where NIMO would even consider wavings, no trade class Texas 212 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 2: came up to both of us immediately. We were thinking 213 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 2: much higher things like we can add on pieces to 214 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 2: get see checking the ground on there, and I dropped 215 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 2: in the Mets Up discord put the link in for 216 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 2: that at the bottom of this episode right here. On 217 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 2: Friday night, I was like, you know, I really think 218 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 2: that that's something that could possibly be a fit Neimo 219 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: in Texas, and it does work out. 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Tell them foul Territory sent you totally. 251 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 2: So here's a funny thing about Nimo and Semion last year. 252 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: So a lot of people are really upset looking at 253 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 2: Marcus Semi and season last year, and I think Gonzlip 254 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 2: that's fair Marku Semion hit like absolute dogwood last year. 255 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 2: He was terrible. I just picked a very random number here, 256 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 2: very arbitrary now, but for both guys, the final three 257 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 2: hundred eleven play of each player season. But that was 258 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 2: just when I mean semi kind of had the beginning 259 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 2: of the season where it was a it was a disaster, 260 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 2: like Marcus Semans started the year. He was hitting under 261 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 2: two hundred through the middle of May, like it was 262 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 2: really that bad. But it's just he did turn it 263 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 2: on right towards the end of May beginning of June, 264 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 2: and he had give me his slash life of Marcus. Okay, 265 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 2: for three start half the season to end the year 266 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 2: two seventy three thirty eight four sixty four with twelve 267 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 2: homers and three hundred eleven play. We guess that weird, weird, 268 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 2: screaming joy because like, was that seven to sixty ops? 269 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: That is let's do some quick math here, No, that 270 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 2: is three hundred, four hundred. It's like an eight hundred ops. 271 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: Okay, bump it down even more. If we get like 272 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: seven thirty ops out of Marcus Simon, totally, I feel good. 273 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: Do we get that from him for a full season, 274 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: don't feel the most confident about it. 275 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 2: Here's the same time for him for Nemo his final 276 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 2: exactly three hundred eleven play appearances of the season two 277 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 2: seventy two, three thirty five four to thirteen, so about 278 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: a lot of ops points lower and a big thing. 279 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 2: The difference here is that Marcus Enmien is a much 280 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 2: better field that Marcus Enman's coming off a goal Glove 281 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 2: Award dynasm means still towards the top of the league 282 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 2: in second basements terms of fielding, run value, OAA, defensive 283 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 2: front safe. It's not as good as it was a 284 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 2: few years ago when he was like the best defensive 285 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 2: second baseman in the league, one of the best defensive 286 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: players in the league. But Marcus Enmian is still a 287 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 2: great defensive player, and I do think that at least 288 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 2: for this year. I don't know if we could keep 289 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 2: projecting him because he's going to be thirty five, then 290 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 2: thirty six, then thirty seven while he's still under this contract. 291 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 2: We can do that forever. But in the short term, 292 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 2: the Mets got a lot better defensively on the infield. 293 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 2: I think that was a huge goal, and if they 294 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 2: can get average hitting with that, I think they might 295 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: have gotten better. Yeah, they also they might not get 296 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 2: average hitting with that. 297 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: That's the big if is the hitting, because I am 298 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: interested to see what Simeon's bat looks like over here. 299 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: I know Texas has been suppressing the shit out of 300 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: offense the last few years, especially the left field, so 301 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: this is probably a welcome improvement for Simon because he 302 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: just pulled the ball down the line. A lot pulls 303 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: it in the air, which is good. So that stuff 304 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: is great. I hope it translates to more offense. I'm 305 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: setting my expectations extremely low. If that ops starts with 306 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: the seven, I feel good, thrilled, thrilled Under seven is 307 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: what I'm expecting though from Simeon. But with that premier defense, 308 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: like you said at second basin, to keep you know, 309 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: beating a dead horse David Stearns, if you guys haven't heard, 310 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: he wants defense. He's prioritizing defense, and while brand Nimo 311 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: was a better offensive player, the defense was not nearly 312 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: as good. When you look at these guys weirdly in 313 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: terms of like war valuations, basically neck and neck last year. 314 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, especially when you do per one sixty two, because 315 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 2: Semion did break his foot towards the end of the 316 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 2: year when he was hitting, and he probably could have 317 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 2: gotten that ops plus back over one hundred by the end. 318 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 2: So if you do war Per one sixty two, they 319 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 2: wound up having very similar seasons, and that's why Semon 320 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 2: had the worst offensive season of his career. Not expecting 321 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 2: any kind of bounce back from Marcus Mi and back 322 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 2: to prime Marcus Semi not even close to that. Players 323 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 2: don't usually bounce back at thirty five years old to 324 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 2: plus your name, unless your name is George Springer, which 325 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 2: I guess we can keep our fingers crossed for that one. 326 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 2: But there are a few things that Semon does well 327 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 2: that we can be like, like you mentioned before, can't 328 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: play better in a place like city field. He pulls 329 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: significantly more flatballs than Brandon Neimo. That's a big thing, 330 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 2: and that's something that we hope can help him get 331 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 2: some more power. If Brandon Nimo last year was playing 332 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 2: in Texas, right in city field, or if all one 333 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty two games of his season we're in 334 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 2: Texas not city field, he would not He wasn't playing 335 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: hundred sixteen city You guys know what I'm saying. True, 336 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 2: we would have had eighteen home runs compared to the 337 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 2: twenty five he had. 338 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: That's a lot. 339 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 2: That's a huge difference right there. And Marcus mmion would 340 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 2: have had additional three home runs if he played in cityfield. 341 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: Two home runs compared to Texas. 342 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: It's a you know, I can't keep talking about Nimo 343 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: because he's not on the team anymore, which is crazy, 344 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: but it just I should keep a little bit, I know, 345 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: I just keep going back to it, and I'm like, again, 346 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: they have to fill that Nemo position. They have to 347 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: with somebody good, and I feel like the rumors are Bellinger. 348 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like Bellinger is the guy 349 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: that it's gonna end. 350 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 2: Up being like that might be the guy. 351 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: And do you do you feel better with Simeon Bellinger 352 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: than just Nimo and whoever plays second base? 353 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 2: It definitely fully depends on the contract you're giving to Kobe, 354 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 2: because that's the other story part too. I don't I 355 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: don't love Code Bellinger. I'm to be honest with you, 356 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 2: if this is all to get Cody Bellinger, like, I 357 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 2: don't really see that, but that's also another move to 358 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: get much better defensively. But Cody Bellinger also be excused 359 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 2: not to sign p Alanza, like I don't want that. 360 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: I don't want that either. Yeah, I hope this is 361 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker. Let's hope this let's shoot for the stars. 362 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: I hope it's Kyle Tucker. I hope this fernandozazzis junior. 363 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: But that's also what We'll leave it at that there. 364 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: But it's just I I'm trying to see the vision. 365 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: I'm trying to like find ways to do it. To me, 366 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: this does feel like possibly slightly even player swap. You're 367 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: trading some offense for some defense, and you're trading a 368 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: five year contract for a three year contract on two 369 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: objectively bad contracts. Like if we can break it down 370 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: all the way just to that, it starts to make 371 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: sense in my brain, does it not? 372 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 6: Yeah? 373 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: It does. I mean, like I think over the next 374 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: three years, so the remainder of the Simeon contract, the 375 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: difference added to the Mets payroll will be about fourteen million, 376 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: because I think it's six mil this year, six mil 377 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: next year, and then he is twenty million in the 378 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: final year of his contract in the one million that 379 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: they're sending a year, So it's like fourteen to fifteen 380 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: million dollars a year or fourteen fifteen million dollars total, 381 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: more than Mets will be spending on Simeon than Nimo. 382 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: I again, I wish that there was another I wish 383 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: there was more value we could have gotten for Nimo. 384 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: I wish we could have gotten a not thirty five 385 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: year old second baseman, because again, if the defense ever deteriorates, 386 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: we're stuck again with like a fucking like, oh shit, 387 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: what the hell just happened? But I guess we're just 388 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: I guess the Mets are banking on Simeon being dynamite 389 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: at second base for the next few years. I saw 390 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: some tweets online that people are not happy too. They're like, 391 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: we have Luis on Helicunya that could play second base, 392 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: And I ask you, guys, do you remember him playing 393 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: last year? Like he was a worse hitter than Marcus Simony. 394 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: He doesn't field as well, so, like I raised you 395 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: that one, he's a way worse player, which is crazy 396 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: as I compared to a thirty five year old. I'm 397 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: so I'm so torn with this one. I can't I 398 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: can't pull the emotional side from like the baseball brain side. 399 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: Apart right now. 400 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that this also was a trait that 401 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 2: kind of like stopped you your tracks and I feel 402 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 2: getting hit by a car because there's no way to 403 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: see a player for player trade like this coming. 404 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: It's all happened in baseball. 405 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 2: Never see trades like this happening, especially for a team 406 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 2: with the Rangers, who are openly shedding salary. It's funny 407 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 2: that they would take more years, but to them, they're 408 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 2: saving five mil annually. Look, they're markus, send me is 409 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 2: twenty four million dollars against the luxury tax brandim oh 410 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 2: after the million being sent nineteen point twenty five, I'm 411 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 2: pretty sure. So that bang right there. You get five 412 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: million dollars to help your team. And for a team 413 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 2: like the Rangers, who really have to play the margins tightly, 414 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 2: that five million dollars per year. For a team like 415 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 2: the Mets, who has some huge long term contracts in 416 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 2: the bus and are seemingly open to adding some more, 417 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 2: you want to free up that time in the future 418 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 2: of long term contracts. So this trade what this also did. 419 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 2: The only players signed now on the Mets roster past 420 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 2: two thy and twenty seven are wat so done for Ciscolandor, 421 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 2: which that's it. 422 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think I don't think these comments had 423 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: anything to do with Brandon Nemo being traded. But we 424 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: heard Adam Anovino the other day on his live stream 425 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: make some comment it's just about Neimo and different things 426 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: going on in the Mets. And one thing that kind 427 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: of rings out to me is the comment about Nimo 428 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: being pissed how Lindor was getting all the captain like conversation. 429 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: Which he did say that that was the way she 430 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 2: read an article about it, not that he was in 431 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 2: the room at that point, but he did. I don't 432 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 2: know if you did say that. 433 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: As a former teammate. And yes, while I think that 434 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: a lot of it did get taken out of context, 435 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: I do think again from a roster construction standpoint and everything, 436 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: like we've even talked about that, there's this this weird 437 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 1: kind of in between with this roster where Francisco Lindor, 438 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: according to the fans, is the captain. To the players, 439 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: it might be five different guys. Brandon Nimmo has been 440 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,959 Speaker 1: in this organization longer than Francisco Lindor. Pe Alonso had 441 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: been in this organization longer than Francisco door, Jeff McNeil, 442 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden he came in and 443 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: it kind of became his team. Not that there was 444 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: an issue, not saying that, but does set up on 445 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: there was one issue, Well, there was one issue with McNeil. 446 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: Of course we know that when until Lindor choked them out, 447 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: But like, it does set up a weird dynamic. And 448 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: then you bring in a guy like so now, who's 449 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: the highest paid player in the entire ever in sports history, 450 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: no one's made more money on a contract than Juan 451 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 1: Soto to add him. Then with Lindor, it's like, wait, 452 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: are we like not the guys that you care about anymore? 453 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 1: Like Nimo got paid, he got big money, and then 454 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 1: all of a sudden two more guys showed up and like, nah, 455 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: that's nothing, buddy, Like it's weird. 456 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 2: Same at the same time, a guy like Pete, who 457 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 2: was part of that core when Nimo and McNeil got 458 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 2: their bit contracts, Pete didn't get his, and Pete was 459 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 2: came up a little bit after those guys. Of course, 460 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 2: Nimo's on this team three years before Pete stepped into 461 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 2: the locker room. But there always did seem like these 462 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 2: strange club pouse dynamics the last few years of this team. 463 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 2: I was talking to my dad about this too before 464 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 2: we came on here. And you remember the Tommy fam 465 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 2: quotes from a few years ago. 466 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: Yep, where he talks about never seeing a team that 467 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: works less hard than the Mets did. 468 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 2: I think he specifically mentioned Nimo as being someone that 469 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 2: did work hard. But I also think there's something about leadership. 470 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 2: And not saying this anything against Brandon Neimo or for 471 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 2: Brandon Neimo, but there's something about leadership, which is one 472 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 2: making sure you yourself worked hard, but too there's an 473 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 2: element of making other people work hard, make sure everyone's 474 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 2: taking care of countability. Not saying that that was something 475 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 2: Nimo was good at or bad at, not saying any 476 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: of that at all. But the fact that there has 477 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 2: been quotes, comments and things happening about this clubhouse for 478 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 2: years now is interesting. And you can even say Todd 479 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 2: Zield just talked about this and s and why the 480 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 2: fact that Nimo even waved this no trade clause. Yeah, 481 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 2: some that might be like, you know what, this this 482 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 2: team has been a bit of a headache, like let 483 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 2: me just go to Texas, not pay taxes, and like 484 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 2: get one hundred acres of life. 485 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, Nimo did just get a pay day, by the way, 486 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: like he just got a huge payday by waving that 487 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: they would be money. So it's not it's not making 488 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: out like he's the victim in this one. He definitely 489 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: just made a lot more money. And I'm sure his 490 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: family might even be happier out there based on what 491 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: we know. 492 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 2: He's hanging out with friend Jack at the groom. Again, those 493 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 2: guys were home. 494 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: Those pictures are gonna absolutely tear me apart, like the 495 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: first opening Spring Trading pictures of those guys hugging like 496 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: mother fuck or how is this happening? 497 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 2: Crats? 498 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 4: We picked you to talk about me undies not just 499 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 4: because they're ridiculously comfortable, but also because they are very festive. 500 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 4: When the holiday season hits, you go on the website 501 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 4: and there are just so many more designs to check out, 502 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 4: and they just scream Eric Kratz getting little matching sets 503 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 4: with everybody that he knows. 504 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 5: You know what. 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Everything we heard Nimo 523 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: is a great guy, great baster of the team, a 524 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 2: great leader. But we also know from that Marcus MMI 525 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 2: and is kind of renowned as being one of like 526 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 2: the best guys in BASELU guy like he's first of all, 527 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 2: he's won a championship. I think that's a good thing 528 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 2: to add to a locker room. He has turned himself 529 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 2: from like talk about like Nimo, getting the most out 530 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 2: of his guy given ability, these talents everything turn himself 531 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 2: to a player. Marcus MMI was a six round pick 532 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 2: from the White Sox that same year as Nemo. Yeah, 533 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 2: he does eleven. It's actually weird, same year as Nimo, 534 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 2: who didn't. He couldn't even catch out with the White Sox, 535 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 2: went to the A's, took years to figure that with 536 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 2: the A's became an iron man, turned him off to 537 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 2: the cost defender, fixed the bad defender. Yet that was 538 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 2: around Washington. He also round Washington. Guy has been around 539 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 2: the game for a billion years, said Marcus mi is 540 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 2: one of the hardest working guys he's ever seen, so like, 541 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 2: there's there's something about this. And Gary Cohen's similar. Right 542 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 2: before Todzio came on S and Y, he said that 543 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 2: when you said the high car character guy out like Nimo, 544 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 2: you gotta make sure you're getting a high character guy back. 545 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 2: And Semi is probably as high character of a guy 546 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 2: you can get. These are all things that are part 547 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 2: of this trade, even a past than stuff we're talking 548 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 2: about on the field. 549 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, he Uh, I mean, I just I hope he hits. 550 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,239 Speaker 1: That's really the thing all I can think about right now. 551 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: It's very I think it's hard to convince fans too 552 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: on defense at times when you make a trade for. 553 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 2: At this point, see defense the same way. 554 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 1: No, you can. You almost can't see defense. You can, 555 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: you can see it, but you can't see it. It's 556 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 1: like Nick Castianos hasn't made an error in like five years, 557 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: but he's dog shit in the outfield, like you kind 558 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: of can and can't see it. 559 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 2: And again, you can't see it because also like if 560 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 2: second Mason makes a bad play, it's like we didn't 561 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 2: even notice that. Like when Nimo doesn't make a throw, 562 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 2: We've gotten so used to watching him a throw over 563 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 2: the years, we're never even expecting him to make a 564 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 2: throw anymore. We know, we know the noodle's out there. 565 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 2: But there's also still just these kind of signs of 566 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 2: Nemo's decline that we've been seeing in the last few years, 567 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 2: like the on base percentage has created. We talked about 568 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 2: this through the end of the year. Brandon Nimo last 569 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 2: year of any hitter in the league that had at 570 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 2: least five hundred played appearances, he had, he saw the 571 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 2: fourth highest rate of pitches in the strike zone. The 572 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 2: only pit hitters that saw more balls in the strike 573 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 2: zone last year than brand Nemo where Jonathan India, Joey Ortiz, 574 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 2: and Alec Bom. 575 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: And keep that in mind, that is in the year 576 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: where he hit the most home runs in his career. 577 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: So people are like, I don't really care, you're hitting 578 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: more home runs than ever before. We're we're gonna challenge you. 579 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: And not that people are scared of Marcus Simeon, just 580 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: it's just about where brand Nemo could be a heading 581 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 1: but Marcus samy DIDs he but met fewer rate of 582 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,959 Speaker 1: pitches in the striker than even brand Emo just did 583 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: on there, and there's a Brandon like Marcus Emion. 584 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 2: We talked about this a little bit before coming on air. 585 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 2: He's kind of like a rat in the batters box, 586 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 2: like he's a tough at bat. Marcus Hemion doesn't really 587 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 2: let many good pitches go by. He doesn't also swing 588 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 2: it many bats. It's always been his big thing. 589 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: That's kind of what he can get by with the 590 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 1: fact because he's never been an exit velo god, he's 591 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: never been like one of these not a bat speed 592 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: guy for sure. Definitely not, but he is the classic. 593 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: When I get my pitch, I'm hitting that pitch and 594 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: it's being hit. Well, it's not gonna be he's not 595 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: gonna be hitting bombs. He's not gonna be in you know, 596 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: four hundred foot home runs, but it goes over the fence. 597 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: It still has the same value. And he does that. 598 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: He does hit home runs, there's no doubt about that. 599 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pulled fly balls, it's really good swing decisions, 600 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 2: and hopefully it's really good second base defense, and hopefully 601 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 2: it's really it's a good guy to add to a 602 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 2: clubhouse that might need a good guy. Yeah, that's kind 603 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 2: of where it comes out to it. And I think 604 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 2: the one part that is going to matter the most 605 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 2: about this trade is what happens next. 606 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: Yes, because they now have a hole in left field 607 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: and we have an hole in center field. So now 608 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: we need two outfielders and gotta get at least one 609 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: if you're gonna because he did mention Carson benj as 610 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: a guy who could have an opening day position, David Stearns, 611 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: but you still need one. Then if you got Carson 612 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: benj even starting not opening day, So it's like Cody Bellinger. 613 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: Do they look for a reunion with Harrison Bader on 614 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: a short term contract? Are they gonna go crazy and 615 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: go for Kyle Tucker? Is there someone on the trade 616 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: market we don't know? Say Suzuki's been mentioned as a 617 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: name that could be available on trade. Could he be 618 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: like a guy that you bring in. I know he 619 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 1: can't play the outfield, that doesn't help the defense thing, 620 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: but he mashes. I don't know. 621 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 2: And also like what was this due for the Peelans 622 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 2: are coming back? We've heard the fact that for Davis 623 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 2: Serus has been effusive, the fact that we don't see 624 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 2: peelhous as a full time first basement anymore. Now with 625 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 2: getting Nimo and running like the tin man off the field, 626 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 2: like you have open DH, like there's this lot. It 627 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 2: feels like there's a lot more avenues this team can 628 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 2: go down yet, which I think is fun at this 629 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 2: time of year. I think also for a team that 630 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 2: underperformed like the Mets did last year, and for a 631 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 2: clubhouse that seemed like it was that in as much disarrays, 632 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 2: it seemed like on the outside, it's nice to have options. 633 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 2: It's nice to be able to kind of put forth 634 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 2: for new position players possibly on a team next year. 635 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, especially because the team didn't do shit. Like I 636 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: I think sometimes us as fans where we love the 637 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: guys and we're like, come on, like that was just 638 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: a bad year, But the end of the day, like 639 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: that was that was a failed season. You kind of 640 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: can't run the same team back and expect a different outcome. 641 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: That would be insane. 642 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 2: No, and it's fair to the fact that we can 643 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 2: again look for now corner outfields. I think that's a 644 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 2: big part of this tier. 645 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: Outfielders are normally like if we don't go the Tucker 646 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: route or whatever, like you can get con production of 647 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: a guy for cheap out in the corner. That's historically 648 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: a spot where you can get like a good pop 649 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: off year. 650 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 2: And it's also the factor of Brendan Neimo's value on 651 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 2: that contract was five for one hundred in terms of 652 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 2: hither he's a better hear than Marcus Semi no doubt 653 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 2: said it over and over again. In terms of every 654 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 2: left fielder in the league, Brendon Nemo is not really 655 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 2: special at. 656 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 1: This point the last two seasons of them. 657 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 2: If Markus Seni could just be a league average hit. 658 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 2: Like we're saying we're not even shooting for the moon. 659 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 2: I'm not even I'm not even thinking about eight hundred ops. 660 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 2: I'm not thinking about seven fifty. If you give me 661 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 2: a seven hundred ohps seven playing good defense, I give 662 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 2: me three point five War give me three point five 663 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 2: Ward next season. This this deal is a massive win. 664 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 2: And now I do wonder how this comes back around 665 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 2: with Edwin and Pete because we know from a report 666 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 2: from John Hayman recently that there's a four for eighty 667 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 2: out there for Edwin from us. Like so I think 668 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 2: it's just ready to go, but I think they're still playing. 669 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 2: See I can they get the five. I think that 670 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 2: pie Alonzo's market feels soft again. I think that we 671 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 2: like Cody Bellinger a lot. We the team. I don't 672 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 2: know Mark and I, but I think the Mets organization 673 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 2: likes Cody Bellancher a lots. We'll see if that's year. 674 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: I like Bellinger, but I like other options more now 675 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: now that we don't have Nimo, I definitely like a 676 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: lot of like a lot like a lot of the 677 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 1: other options more. 678 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 2: Also, any time that any of these reporters talk about 679 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 2: Kyle Talker, they're like, and don't count out the Mets, 680 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 2: but it's like never really made sense, but now it's 681 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 2: like now it actually can make sense. But I feel 682 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 2: like you would need his market to drop a lot. 683 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 2: I think you would need to sign Kyle Talker to 684 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 2: a shorter term, higher aav deal. 685 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: By the way, it's it's so gonna be Bellinger. He 686 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: had like seven o a a last year playing the 687 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: corner outfield. He runs well, he throws well, while again 688 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: the bat space stuff and everything get him to pull 689 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: the fly balls like he did at Yankee Stadium. He 690 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: probably still hits twenty five or thirty home runs a year. 691 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: Feels like Cody Bellinger is gonna be the guy. But 692 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: seems like it wouldn't be Cody Bellinger if his if 693 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: his market's as robust as a lot of people are 694 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: making it seem right now, and he actually could be 695 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: in play for like a six or seven year deal, 696 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: because if you swap out a five year deal for Randimo, 697 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: yeah for six year deal for quick. 698 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 2: No sense, then will be then then I will that 699 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 2: would be like I don't like this ray much anymore, 700 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,239 Speaker 2: but just it feels like that is a player at 701 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 2: least stylistically that the Mets really really want, got anything 702 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 2: else dreams, I mean, got a few more things one. 703 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 2: Marcus Enmian last year sucked ass against fastballs. Brandon Nemo 704 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 2: did too. So it's like this just seems like two 705 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 2: guys that were both kind of DETERI rating at the 706 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 2: same time, and it's just you kind of you hope 707 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 2: you you got the one for a shorter deal. 708 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a lot more moves made. 709 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 2: Oh. I think this team's going to look very, very, 710 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,959 Speaker 2: very different. And while it's worth being sad about players 711 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 2: that we've come to build these relationships with that we're 712 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 2: said they're not going to be here, I'm really okay 713 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 2: with the way last year went for this team to 714 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 2: look a lot different. 715 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, as I've said many times, one of my least 716 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,239 Speaker 1: favorite baseball seasons ever as a Mets fan. It was 717 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: a nightmare. 718 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 2: I want to get athletic, I want to get fast. 719 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 2: I want to have strong arms. Marcus Enmian is athletic. 720 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 2: He's not young, he is fast, doesn't have a strong arm, 721 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 2: but just especially in terms of square, is still fast. 722 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 2: He's still fast. I think he was still eighty percentile 723 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 2: sprints feed last year. Let's just let's get ready to 724 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 2: I just want to play a little bit more baseball. 725 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: Play a little better baseball as well. Overall, Yes, I 726 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: mean you can still run eighty first percentile. Fucking yeah. 727 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 2: If this w thing is just a signed code Bellinger, 728 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 2: I won't feel that great about it. But it does 729 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 2: seem like also really had a chance to get a 730 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 2: Carsson benched early next season. This also a vote of 731 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 2: no confidence for Jet Williams. Clearly no, yeah, this is 732 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 2: very obviously. 733 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: Not or or Jet Williams is mega gone and we're 734 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: going to make a trade that no one's even considering 735 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: right now. 736 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 2: That's possible too, especially again, this is a great thing 737 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 2: about what this new mess regime. Shout out Mark Killy 738 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 2: for not liking this. But the fact talk talk about leaks, Yeah, none, 739 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 2: none of those. None of those leaks. You could you 740 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 2: could have been looking up the words Semi and NEMO 741 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 2: on Friday, you would have seen almost nothing. In the 742 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 2: entire world. There's shot crazy that this kind of major 743 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 2: deal happened, and it's been reported. I got Michael Marino 744 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 2: said it that it took Nemo days to think about 745 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 2: if he was actually going to wave his no trade. 746 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: He had to wait. Like that's where like my hard 747 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: hurts I got. 748 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 2: That makes me feel so said, I'm like, damn it, man. 749 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: Like I wish you hated New York. You loved being here. 750 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: He loved being a Met, And I loved Brandon. 751 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 2: Nemo, especially because, like I also see a guy like 752 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 2: Nemo having so much pride in himself in his game, 753 00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: being like if they don't want me here to have 754 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 2: really want to stay, you know what I mean, Like 755 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 2: like the fact that that hurt him. I love Brandon Nemo. 756 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 2: There's so much time defending Brandon Nemo to like my 757 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 2: dad and my uncles in the early days of this podcast, 758 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 2: like this is a really good player. We have to 759 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 2: let this guy get a starting job and let run 760 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 2: with it. He's like he's like a top ten player 761 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 2: in Mets history, which is crazy to say, unbelievable think about. 762 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 2: But it's they're building a very different team right now, 763 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 2: and I think it's fine that that's happening. 764 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: We'd love to know your guys opinion down in the 765 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: comment section. Don't forget to scribe. Subscribe to the Mets 766 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: the Podcast not only on YouTube, but if you want 767 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: to listen to US Apple podcasts, Spotify, Google Drops The Ring, 768 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: drops the Review, download and subscribe. You can follow James 769 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: on social media at James you All. I'm a draftneckmark 770 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: with the sea. We'll catch you guys all soon. I 771 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: got a feeling the mets are not done yet, so 772 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: keep an eye app we'll see. 773 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 6: Saying you guys. Next. Child on my worst day. Child 774 00:31:52,440 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 6: every day day and you're the best day. Oh the God. 775 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 6: On my birthday, I'm a child of God. 776 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 3: Every day hasn't got day the reason I'm so pleased, 777 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 3: I'm so blessed, got this hating in my chest. 778 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 6: It doesn't matter about the rest. If I got. 779 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 3: Your shall be beget the gos blessed. I'm so pleas 780 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 3: got hoping my chest. 781 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 6: It doesn't matter. I'm the best. 782 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 3: If I got you, go real blessed for my best day. 783 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 3: I'm on my worst day. I'm any day. You're the 784 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 3: reasons my birthday time to God, my worst days. 785 00:32:51,240 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 6: I'm a child of God. Day he's good. You're the reason. No, 786 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 6: polya probably, No, it doesn't matter, doesn't it does? I 787 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 6: got his love, but we're probably I'm bus