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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Hidden Gin, a production of I Heart

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<v Speaker 1>Radio and Grimm and Mild from Aaron Minky. When I

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<v Speaker 1>was a kid, there was this family that we were

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<v Speaker 1>pretty close with and kind of grew up with. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>they had four boys, all my age or older, and

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<v Speaker 1>they reveled in telling us jin stories every time they

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<v Speaker 1>could get me and my younger siblings alone. They told

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<v Speaker 1>us about a time when they were traveling in rural

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<v Speaker 1>South Asia on the way to their ancestral village, bouncing

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<v Speaker 1>along in a rickety train. It was a hot night,

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<v Speaker 1>and the train windows were pushed down, so the dust

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<v Speaker 1>that rose from the tracks created to haze both inside

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<v Speaker 1>and outside the string of cabins. Things had quieted down,

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<v Speaker 1>suppers had been unwrapped and eaten. The last of the

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<v Speaker 1>young boys who were hawking boiled eggs, fried lentils, and

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<v Speaker 1>thick sweet hot tea had passed through the train one

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<v Speaker 1>final time. Most of the other passengers were asleep, either

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<v Speaker 1>slumped over a loved one next to them, or with

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<v Speaker 1>their heads thrown back over a seat, their bodies steadily

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<v Speaker 1>rocking back and forth with the movement of the train.

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<v Speaker 1>The younger two brothers were likewise asleep, curled up against

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<v Speaker 1>their mother, who had pulled a cotton shawl partially over

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<v Speaker 1>her face to filter out the dust, or maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>was so no one could see her mouth slack and

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<v Speaker 1>open as she snored. It wasn't unusual to see other

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<v Speaker 1>passengers with their faces covered by different means, with shawls, blankets,

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<v Speaker 1>even the occasional broka. In the cramped quarters. It was

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<v Speaker 1>one way to have some limited privacy and make sleeping

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<v Speaker 1>in public a little bit more comfortable. Now, there is

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<v Speaker 1>one woman in the cabin who was covered entirely in

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<v Speaker 1>black from head to toe, sitting on the berth across

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<v Speaker 1>the aisle from the two older brothers who were still

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<v Speaker 1>wide awake. They were still pretty young, barely in the

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<v Speaker 1>double digits and only a year apart, which meant they

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<v Speaker 1>spent most of their waking moments trying to find ways

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<v Speaker 1>to mess with each other. On that particular night, as

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<v Speaker 1>the boredom got to them, they traded kicks and pinches

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<v Speaker 1>and elbows, testing each other. Their goal was to keep

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<v Speaker 1>from yelping and waking up their mom, who would likely

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<v Speaker 1>take a slipper to them if they did. They giggled

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<v Speaker 1>under their breath, still jabbing one another, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>noticed the woman in black turned her head towards them.

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<v Speaker 1>The bottom half of her face was covered in the

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<v Speaker 1>black veil of a borka, but the top half was exposed.

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<v Speaker 1>Her large black eyes were wide open, lined with coal,

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<v Speaker 1>staring at them intently. The boys froze under her unblinking gaze.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether a few moments passed or entire minutes, it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to say, but to the brothers it felt like in

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<v Speaker 1>an eternity. And then still silent, the woman turned her

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<v Speaker 1>head the other way to look out the window, and

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<v Speaker 1>as she did so, she stretched her legs in front

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<v Speaker 1>of her. Her black gown rose to reveal her feet, which,

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<v Speaker 1>to the shock and horror of these brothers, were bent

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<v Speaker 1>completely backwards. I'm Rabbia Chadar, and I'll be your guide

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<v Speaker 1>into the ancient world of the hidden gin. Welcome. I

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<v Speaker 1>heard that story, or some variation of it, countless times

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<v Speaker 1>from those brothers who swore that they witnessed a woman

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<v Speaker 1>whose feet were on backwards in the dead of the

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<v Speaker 1>night on a train to their village. When they told others,

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<v Speaker 1>elder relatives what they had seen, they were casually informed

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<v Speaker 1>that that woman was definitely a gin. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>sure sign of a gin trying to pass as human.

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<v Speaker 1>They could transform to a certain extent, but their eat,

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<v Speaker 1>for some reason, still ended up backwards, or maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to keep it that way so they could frighten

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<v Speaker 1>the unsuspecting with a flash of their feet. Essentially, and oftentimes,

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<v Speaker 1>the gin manifest themselves to us as they please, shifting

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<v Speaker 1>into human or animal shapes to enter our dimension, but

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<v Speaker 1>never revealing what they really look like to us, which

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<v Speaker 1>is understandable because apparently their original forms are so fierce

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<v Speaker 1>and terrifying we wouldn't be able to handle it. One

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<v Speaker 1>legend tells of a gin that revealed itself to none

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<v Speaker 1>other than Alexander the Great. It was huge, as large

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<v Speaker 1>as a building, with seven heads, and every head had

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<v Speaker 1>two faces, four blazing eyes, a monstrous mouth full of

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<v Speaker 1>flaming teeth, and the massive nose of a bull. Strangely, though,

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<v Speaker 1>it had the feet of a duck, a massive duck,

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<v Speaker 1>but duck feet. Nonetheless, it's not likely you'll see a

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<v Speaker 1>gin in its original form, though that would just give

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<v Speaker 1>it away, and they usually don't want that. But there

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<v Speaker 1>are some manifestations that seem to be most common when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to gin encounters, which will help us recognize

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<v Speaker 1>a gin when we see one. But remember, we only

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<v Speaker 1>see a gin when it wants us to. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>also said that they only appear to those who believe

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<v Speaker 1>in them. Otherwise our senses are closed to their realm.

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<v Speaker 1>They can hide from us, and they do, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>said that they cannot hide from certain animals. Now, there

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<v Speaker 1>are many cultures that believe animals can see or sense

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<v Speaker 1>the unseen storms on the horizon, for example, or even

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<v Speaker 1>natural disasters. It's well known and well documented that days

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<v Speaker 1>before the horrific two thousand and four tsunami that brutalized

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<v Speaker 1>South Asian coastlines, local animals were acting out of sorts

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<v Speaker 1>from India to Sri Lanka to Indonesia. There were dozens

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<v Speaker 1>of reports well before the massive waves hit of dogs

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<v Speaker 1>that refuse to go outside, elephants that led to higher ground,

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<v Speaker 1>and zoo animals coward in their shelters. There is nothing

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily supernatural about any of it. After all, many animals

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<v Speaker 1>have vastly different ranges of sound and sight that human

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<v Speaker 1>beings do, and according to indigenous cultures, they're just simply

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<v Speaker 1>more connected to the natural phenomena around them, which explains

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<v Speaker 1>why animals may be also more likely to feel or

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<v Speaker 1>sense gin or other creatures we can't see and probably

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to see. They say to beware when a

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<v Speaker 1>donkey brace, because it's surely seeing a devil. But you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to own a donkey to witness the sixth

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<v Speaker 1>sense animals have for the unseen. Every dog and cat

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<v Speaker 1>owner has seen at some point their furry companion stare

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<v Speaker 1>with alarm at a point in a room where apparently

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing to see, or they'll growl, flatten their ears,

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<v Speaker 1>crouch at some invisible threat. And then there are the

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<v Speaker 1>three am crazy's, when cats suddenly began tearing around the halls,

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<v Speaker 1>slamming into walls, bursting with a manic energy that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>exist at any other part of the day. No one

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<v Speaker 1>is exactly sure what causes this middle of the night

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<v Speaker 1>feline mania, and there are some theories about it, but

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<v Speaker 1>none of them account for why this happens at a

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<v Speaker 1>time otherwise known as the witching hour, that time of

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<v Speaker 1>night when black magic is strongest, when the cover of

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<v Speaker 1>darkness is deepest, and when those of us with a

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<v Speaker 1>touch of insomnia often spring awake in bed only to

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<v Speaker 1>see a negon glow from a bedside clock telling us

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<v Speaker 1>it's three am. Whether or not animals see gin, we

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<v Speaker 1>do know this. Sometimes the animals around us are in

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<v Speaker 1>fact jin themselves. While shape shifting gin have the ability

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<v Speaker 1>to transform into pretty much any kind of animal, dogs, cats, scorpions, camels, lions,

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<v Speaker 1>and even insects like beetles. It seems the most common

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<v Speaker 1>creature you may come across that could be a hidden

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<v Speaker 1>gin is a snake. And it's no coincidence that Adam

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<v Speaker 1>and Eve were tricked by a serpent in the garden.

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<v Speaker 1>The serpent was the devil himself disguised, and the devil

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<v Speaker 1>in some traditions, is in fact a gin. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>story from seventeenth century Egypt in which a famous holy

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<v Speaker 1>man named Alhredi had died, but people believed that he

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<v Speaker 1>had returned, reincarnated as a large snake. The snake had

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<v Speaker 1>made the holy man's shrine on the Nile River its home,

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<v Speaker 1>staying curled up at all times in the crevice of

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<v Speaker 1>some rocks near the grave. In his lifetime, Alhredi was

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<v Speaker 1>known to be a healer, a pious man with miraculous

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<v Speaker 1>powers to cure the sick, but after his death, those

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<v Speaker 1>powers seemed to have become vested in the great serpent

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<v Speaker 1>that guarded his shrine, and as long as that snake

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<v Speaker 1>was there, the miracles continued. The locals had different theories

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<v Speaker 1>about Alhredi and a snake. It could have been that

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<v Speaker 1>he was never a human being to begin with, but

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<v Speaker 1>instead that he was a benevolent gin who transformed himself

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<v Speaker 1>into a human so he could help heal people. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>after living the human life and dying a human death,

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<v Speaker 1>he turned into the giant snake to continue to bless

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<v Speaker 1>those that came to the shrine for help. Interestingly, Coptic

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<v Speaker 1>Christians in the region had a different take on Alhredi.

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<v Speaker 1>They were well aware of his miracles, but they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>think he was a kindly jin. Instead, they believed that

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<v Speaker 1>he was the incarnation of the demon king Ashmadi, the

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<v Speaker 1>same Ashmani that King Solomon enslaved to build his temple

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<v Speaker 1>along with legions of other gin. Regardless, it seems everyone

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<v Speaker 1>on all sides did agree to one thing. That snake

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<v Speaker 1>was definitely Alhredi. The animal manifestations aren't always perfect. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>the shape shifting will result in beastly hybrids, serpents with

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<v Speaker 1>dozens of arms and legs, or creatures with canine teeth,

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<v Speaker 1>heads like birds, and horse like hose. Then there are

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<v Speaker 1>those jin who don't quite come together at all, the nestnas.

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<v Speaker 1>The nestnas appear as half formed human beings, with half

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<v Speaker 1>a head, one arm, one leg, half a torso, and

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<v Speaker 1>half a face which may be positioned anywhere on its body.

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<v Speaker 1>Some say these malformed creatures only inhabit the wilderness of Yemen,

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<v Speaker 1>and others say they can be found on desolate islands

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<v Speaker 1>in the South China Sea. They can't speak, having only

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<v Speaker 1>half the vocal cords necessary, but they can make strange,

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<v Speaker 1>sad guttural sounds, rather fitting for their disposition. That's because

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<v Speaker 1>the nestnas are weak gin. They're terrified of human beings

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<v Speaker 1>instead of the other way around. They flee when people

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<v Speaker 1>get too close, hopping away with a quickness on one leg,

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<v Speaker 1>escaping as fast as possible lest they get captured. And

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<v Speaker 1>they better get away because in some parts they're hunted

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<v Speaker 1>by locals, not just to kill them, but to devour them,

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<v Speaker 1>because apparently the flesh of the nestnas is reportedly delicious

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<v Speaker 1>and sweet. If nestnas are the weaklings in the gin realm.

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<v Speaker 1>Towards the other end of the spectrum, there is a

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous shape shifting gin that you want to avoid at

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<v Speaker 1>all costs. This gin has the ability to constantly and

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<v Speaker 1>terrifyingly keep transforming in order to confuse and days its victims.

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<v Speaker 1>And that gin is called the ghoul. That's right, Google,

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<v Speaker 1>The word we've all used at some point to describe

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<v Speaker 1>someone unpleasant is actually the Arabic word for a very

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<v Speaker 1>specific kind of gin, sometimes taking the shape of several

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<v Speaker 1>animals at once, reported at times to have the head

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<v Speaker 1>of a cat and the tongue of a dog, other

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<v Speaker 1>times appearing in their monstrous forms hunched and hairless, razor

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<v Speaker 1>sharp teeth and snakelike tongues, model skin, and cavernous dead eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>Ghouls in habit the most desolate places, keeping as far

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<v Speaker 1>as possible from human civilization. They lurk in deserts and cemeteries,

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<v Speaker 1>where they hide among ruins, biding their time for people

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<v Speaker 1>passing by, people who are likely to disappear forever if

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<v Speaker 1>they make that unfortunate encounter. What a hapless soul does

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<v Speaker 1>stumble across their path. Goals will entrance them all the

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<v Speaker 1>weight of their debts by repeatedly transforming from one thing

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<v Speaker 1>to another shape, shifting with speed from one hideous creature

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<v Speaker 1>to another, confounding their victims. This way, the goal drives

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<v Speaker 1>their victim mad before making their kill to satisfy their

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<v Speaker 1>hunger for human flesh. Gules are said to be among

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<v Speaker 1>some of the oldest jin, ancient and evil. They are

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<v Speaker 1>so powerful that other jins serve them, and sometimes human

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<v Speaker 1>beings also become their slaves, both willingly and unwillingly. A

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<v Speaker 1>medieval Egyptian folk tale relates that the ghouls came into

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<v Speaker 1>existence in the land of Yemen through the unholy union

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<v Speaker 1>of the smoke from a fire, the seed of a wolf,

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<v Speaker 1>and human seed inside a woman's body. How all of

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<v Speaker 1>these things found their way to the womb, I'm not sure,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm also not sure I want to know. Nonetheless,

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<v Speaker 1>the ghouls that were birth haunted the legendary Valley of

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<v Speaker 1>the Ghouls in Yemen. In actual place, these beastly siblings

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<v Speaker 1>were eventually slaid by a king, but there are of

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<v Speaker 1>course legions more. Some of those legions reside in the

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<v Speaker 1>Cave of Ghouls located in Egypt in Mount Burka. A

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<v Speaker 1>story from the late eighteen hundreds tells the tale of

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<v Speaker 1>a man traveling with a group of people past this cave.

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<v Speaker 1>He fell behind his party, and as he wandered along

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<v Speaker 1>looking for them, a woman mysteriously appeared out of nowhere

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<v Speaker 1>on the mountain side. She was beautiful, as women often

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<v Speaker 1>are in such stories, and she stood in the man's path,

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<v Speaker 1>giving him two choices. He could either sleep with her

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<v Speaker 1>or she would kill him. She was, as you may

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<v Speaker 1>have realized, a ghoul. Now you can easily guess which

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<v Speaker 1>choice the man took, and after their liaison, he was

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to go his way. But a year later, the

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<v Speaker 1>same woman appeared before the man, this time with a

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<v Speaker 1>baby girl, his daughter. She left the child with him

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<v Speaker 1>and disappeared. The man raised a little girl, and eventually

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<v Speaker 1>she married a man from his tribe and went on

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<v Speaker 1>to have children. Now, before we go on with the story,

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<v Speaker 1>let's pause here to talk about the particular kind of

0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:26.000
<v Speaker 1>gin that gave birth to this little girl. That beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>woman outside the cave of ghouls was a particularly dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>type of ghoul, called a sila, and unlike the beastly

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<v Speaker 1>forms that other gals take. The Sila often takes the

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<v Speaker 1>form of a seductive woman. The Sila stalksman and often

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<v Speaker 1>not only eats her victims, but she toys with them,

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<v Speaker 1>first making them dance and scamper around full of terror,

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<v Speaker 1>before finally putting them out of their misery. In order

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<v Speaker 1>to trap her prey, the Sila often pretends to be

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<v Speaker 1>a woman traveling alone and seduces lone male travelers until

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<v Speaker 1>they're so far off the beaten path us they have

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<v Speaker 1>no hope of escaping, just like what happened in our

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<v Speaker 1>Cave of Ghoul story, and killing aecila is no easy

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<v Speaker 1>task for a number of reasons, but if there's any

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<v Speaker 1>creature capable of it, it's the one that ghouls are

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<v Speaker 1>unable to transform into. The wolf. Wolves hold a special

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<v Speaker 1>place in old Arab customs as symbols of protection. It

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<v Speaker 1>said that the wolf is so powerful against malevolent gin

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<v Speaker 1>that wolf teeth or even a wolf's eye are used

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<v Speaker 1>as charms to ward off evil and mothers have long

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<v Speaker 1>sung lullabies invoking the name of the wolf to scare

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<v Speaker 1>off evil spirits from children. You see, the wolf is

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<v Speaker 1>the only animal that ghouls are actually scared of, and

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<v Speaker 1>they have reason to be scared, because wolves actively hunt

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<v Speaker 1>the most dangerous goal, the sila, that temptress that lures

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<v Speaker 1>unassuming men to their deaths. A thirteenth century polymath by

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<v Speaker 1>the name of Zecharia al Kaswini described at hunt like this.

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<v Speaker 1>The wolf sometimes hunts her at night and then eats her.

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<v Speaker 1>As he tears into her, she raises her voice, saying,

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<v Speaker 1>save me. The wolf is eating me. But once a

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<v Speaker 1>wolf has a hold of his prey, no one will

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<v Speaker 1>rescue her, and ultimately Ceila is devoured by the beast.

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<v Speaker 1>Now no wolf appears in the Cave of Ghoul story. However,

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<v Speaker 1>and unfortunately, the daughter of the Ceila had to be

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<v Speaker 1>disposed of in another way, because, according to the tale,

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<v Speaker 1>after the daughter of the Ceila was raised, married off,

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<v Speaker 1>and had her own children, her father made a discovery

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<v Speaker 1>that worried him deeply. One night, he came across a

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<v Speaker 1>grave that had been violated, dug up, it's deceased inhabitant

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<v Speaker 1>unearthed and parts of the body eaten. The father worried

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe his daughter had something to do with it,

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<v Speaker 1>given her origins, and because he knew that gals primarily

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<v Speaker 1>feasted on human flesh. Dead or alive. He hurried to

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<v Speaker 1>his son in law and told him his fears. So

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<v Speaker 1>the young man began keeping an eye on his wife

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<v Speaker 1>and discovered that she was indeed making nightly outings. He

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<v Speaker 1>followed her one night as she crept out of the

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<v Speaker 1>house to the local cemetery, dug up a grave and

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<v Speaker 1>began to feast on the body. He was horrified, and

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<v Speaker 1>that night, when she returned to their bed, he killed her,

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<v Speaker 1>crushing her to death. But their children lived on, married

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<v Speaker 1>and multiplied, and to this day, in the area close

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<v Speaker 1>to the Cave of Ghouls, the descendants of that couple

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<v Speaker 1>still survive, and they are known as the al Guila.

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<v Speaker 1>Tales of Ghouls are spread far and wide, not just geographically,

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<v Speaker 1>but also throughout time. Long before the Cave of Ghoul story.

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<v Speaker 1>Nearly six centuries prior. In fact, an epic travel log

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<v Speaker 1>was written by a contemporary romance author by the name

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<v Speaker 1>of Rustiquelo da Pizza. He had had the fortune of

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<v Speaker 1>being detained for two years in a prison with an

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<v Speaker 1>explorer who regaled him with fantastic stories of his travels

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<v Speaker 1>and a ventures. Da Pisa compiled the stories together in

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<v Speaker 1>a volume called Quote The Book of the marvels of

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<v Speaker 1>the world, each yarn more amazing than the last. You see.

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<v Speaker 1>This explorer that Da Pisa had been detained with described

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<v Speaker 1>crossing entire continents from Constantinople to bot that through the

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<v Speaker 1>magnificent Karo Kora Mountain range onto Beijing, and circling through

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<v Speaker 1>the South China Sea, the Bay of Bengal, and up

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<v Speaker 1>the coast of the Arabian Sea off the eastern shore

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<v Speaker 1>of Africa. And this explorer spent nearly two decades in

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<v Speaker 1>the court of Kubla Khan, the grandson of the great

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<v Speaker 1>genghis Han, serving the Mongol Emperor, and he had seen

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<v Speaker 1>and heard it all. This explorer, well, it was none

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<v Speaker 1>other than Marco Polo. And that book, well, it's better

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<v Speaker 1>known in our part of the world as the travels

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<v Speaker 1>of Marco Polo. Polos travels along the Silk Road took

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<v Speaker 1>him at one point to a vast desert at the

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<v Speaker 1>center of trade routes between China, Tibet and Turkestan. The

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<v Speaker 1>desert was so vast that some said it took a

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<v Speaker 1>month to cross it at its narrowest point, and it

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<v Speaker 1>took a year to cross it at its most wide

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<v Speaker 1>And while their watering holes dotted throughout the desert was

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise devoid of life, no animals, no people, nothing that

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<v Speaker 1>could be hunted and eaten. And yet it wasn't completely empty.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a marvelous thing related of this desert, which

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<v Speaker 1>is that when travelers are on the move by night,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of the chances to lag behind, or to

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<v Speaker 1>fall asleep, or the light, when he tries to gain

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<v Speaker 1>his company again, he will hear spirits talking and will

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<v Speaker 1>suppose them to be his comrades. Sometimes the spirits will

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<v Speaker 1>call him by name, and thus shall a traveler. Oft

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<v Speaker 1>times we led astray, so that he never finds his party,

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<v Speaker 1>and in this way many have perished. Sometimes the stray

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<v Speaker 1>travelers will hear, as it were, the tramp and hume

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<v Speaker 1>of a great cavalcade of people away from the real

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<v Speaker 1>line of road, and taking this to be their own company,

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<v Speaker 1>they will follow the sound, and when day breaks they

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<v Speaker 1>will find that a cheat has been put on them,

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<v Speaker 1>and that they are in an ill plight. Even the

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<v Speaker 1>daytime when hears those spirits talking, and sometimes you shall

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<v Speaker 1>hear the sound of a variety of musical instruments, and

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<v Speaker 1>still more commonly the sound of drums, Paulo had also

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<v Speaker 1>heard of a terrifying monster found in the wilderness of

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<v Speaker 1>Iranistan and Iran, the famed and feared role Bibon, meaning

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<v Speaker 1>the ghoul of the waste. The ghoul was huge, dreadful

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<v Speaker 1>to behold, and lurked in the waste lands of Central Asia,

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<v Speaker 1>gobbling up travelers right off of their horses. Now, Marco

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<v Speaker 1>Polo had not confessed to seeing this ghoul himself, but

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<v Speaker 1>he had heard it referred to many times by locals

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<v Speaker 1>he met in his travels, and while he seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>believe in the desert spirits that lured travelers astray, Paulo

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<v Speaker 1>didn't put much stock in the role Baban stories. It

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<v Speaker 1>could be that he thought, as others did, that the

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<v Speaker 1>ghouls of the desert waste lands were simply a projection

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<v Speaker 1>of the fear even the bravest soul feels when facing

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<v Speaker 1>the desolation of a vast, deserted place. The isolation, the silence,

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<v Speaker 1>the nothingness for miles in every direction could be enough

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<v Speaker 1>to disorient the most level headed among us, and in

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<v Speaker 1>that condition, howling dust storms could both look and sound

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<v Speaker 1>like a beast rising into the sky. For the travelers

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<v Speaker 1>that survived those journeys fantastic tales to tell would certainly

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<v Speaker 1>be a badge of honor, and for those that didn't well,

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<v Speaker 1>it might be kinder to think they were just snatched

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<v Speaker 1>up by a ghoul than the alternative that they just

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't cut it, or the tales could be precautionary, a

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<v Speaker 1>warning to those seeking to set off into the wilderness,

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<v Speaker 1>a threat of imminent danger to those who didn't stick

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<v Speaker 1>close to the tribe, which is just with the lesson

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<v Speaker 1>from another ghoul story, this one from the fifteenth century

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<v Speaker 1>in Valdad, also just might be. In this story, the

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<v Speaker 1>son of a wealthy merchant falls in love with the

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<v Speaker 1>daughter of a poor old wise man against his father's wishes,

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<v Speaker 1>and that, dear listeners, is the disobedience and rebelliousness that

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<v Speaker 1>this story may have been crafted to prevent. Nonetheless, the

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<v Speaker 1>story goes on that the father eventually relented and allowed

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<v Speaker 1>his son to marry the beautiful young girl, and their

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<v Speaker 1>marriage was celebrated with all the ceremony in bling that

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<v Speaker 1>was expected of the wealthy family. The sun was elated

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<v Speaker 1>with his new bride, but was disturbed that she would

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<v Speaker 1>never eat. She would just leave her food untouched. At

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<v Speaker 1>every meal, he shrugged it off. Maybe she was just

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<v Speaker 1>shy in her new home with his new family and

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<v Speaker 1>didn't feel comfortable eating in front of them. But one night,

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<v Speaker 1>the new groom awakened to find himself alone in bed.

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<v Speaker 1>His beautiful wife was nowhere to be found. He stayed

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<v Speaker 1>awake waiting for her, and she didn't return till an

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<v Speaker 1>hour before the sun rose, Creeping quietly back into their bed.

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<v Speaker 1>The next night, he decided he would only pretend to

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<v Speaker 1>sleep to see if she again left their bed, and

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<v Speaker 1>she did. He followed her at a distance out of

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<v Speaker 1>the house and all the way to a cemetery, where

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<v Speaker 1>he saw her step into a large tomb with an

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<v Speaker 1>open door. He cautiously entered after her, only to behold

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<v Speaker 1>a ghastly sight. A circle of ghoules feasted on bloody,

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<v Speaker 1>decomposing corpses, and among them was his lovely young bride,

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<v Speaker 1>munching away with them. The man hurried home, terrified, but

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<v Speaker 1>said nothing to his wife when she returned to their

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<v Speaker 1>bed hours later. The next day, when she again refused

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<v Speaker 1>to eat, he finally couldn't take it anymore. He screamed

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<v Speaker 1>that he knew her secret, that she fasted all days

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<v Speaker 1>so she could feast every night with the ghouls. The

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<v Speaker 1>wife silently rose from the table and retreated to their bedroom,

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<v Speaker 1>where she waited for her groom. He eventually joined her,

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<v Speaker 1>uneasily getting into bed, neither of them saying a word.

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<v Speaker 1>Both silent and tense, that night, she didn't leave her

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<v Speaker 1>husband's bed at all. Instead of sneaking out for her

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<v Speaker 1>midnight meal, she waited patiently for the first signs of

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<v Speaker 1>slumber to overtake him. Then she pounced on her hapless groom,

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<v Speaker 1>teeth bared towards his neck, attempting to draw and drink

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<v Speaker 1>his blood. He awoke immediately and fought back, struggling to subdue.

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<v Speaker 1>The fight was vicious. She had a shocking super strength,

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<v Speaker 1>but ultimately he was able to kill her with a

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<v Speaker 1>blow to the head. The next day, he buried her,

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<v Speaker 1>but she didn't stay buried. Three days later, she arose

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<v Speaker 1>from the dead and returned to her formal marital bed

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<v Speaker 1>to once again try and suck her husband's blood. He

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<v Speaker 1>fled an escaped her, and the next day returned to

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<v Speaker 1>her tomb, where he found her cold dead body. This time,

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<v Speaker 1>he took no chances. He burned her corpse to ashes

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<v Speaker 1>and scattered them in a river, and it worked. She

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<v Speaker 1>never returned. Now, you may have noticed that while this

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<v Speaker 1>woman was fond of eating corpses as wouls do, she

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<v Speaker 1>was also pretty focused on sinking her teeth into her

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<v Speaker 1>husband's throat. So if this particular goal sounds very much

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<v Speaker 1>like a vampire, there's good reason. The connection here runs

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<v Speaker 1>thick as blood. Thou shall not eat the blood of

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<v Speaker 1>any flesh at all, because the life of the flesh

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<v Speaker 1>is in the blood, and whosoever eat it shall be

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<v Speaker 1>cut off. Leviticus spells it out pretty clearly that consuming

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<v Speaker 1>blood for God fearing believers is not just a no no.

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<v Speaker 1>It means being condemned to exile, to being cut off

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<v Speaker 1>from family and community and from God himself, and driven

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<v Speaker 1>into darkness because of their blood lust. Well, that's where

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<v Speaker 1>we find vampires, hiding, shunned from the rest of the world,

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<v Speaker 1>in the world of the Gin, much like the vampires

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<v Speaker 1>of our imaginations, there are some who are driven by

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<v Speaker 1>pure blood lust. The first of those are the paless.

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<v Speaker 1>The palest are Gin associated with the desert, and they

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<v Speaker 1>have a peculiar way of satisfying their cravings. They have

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<v Speaker 1>what you could call kind of a foot fetish. The

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<v Speaker 1>payless will wait until the intended victim is asleep and

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<v Speaker 1>then lick the bottoms of their feet until they bleed.

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<v Speaker 1>It said that these gin aren't very bright or even

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<v Speaker 1>really too dangerous, but the fact that they can manage

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<v Speaker 1>their feet licking without waking anyone up does take a

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<v Speaker 1>certain level of skill. Luckily, it's not too hard to

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<v Speaker 1>outwit this kind of gin. All you have to do

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<v Speaker 1>is sleep feet to feet with another person, so nothing

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<v Speaker 1>can get to the bottom of your foot. Apparently, the

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<v Speaker 1>payless either don't know or don't care that they could

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<v Speaker 1>get blood from other parts of your body. The payless

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<v Speaker 1>may give you a good giggle, but there's nothing funny

0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:42.640
<v Speaker 1>about another blood sucking creature found in Hindu folklore that's

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<v Speaker 1>not only believed to be a gin, but some call

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<v Speaker 1>the original vampire. Hundreds of years before Glad the Impaler

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<v Speaker 1>came onto the scene in Romania, the vetala already existed

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<v Speaker 1>in Hindu folk core and tradition. A terrifying evil species

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<v Speaker 1>of gin, the vetala were thought to inhabit the reanimated

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<v Speaker 1>corpses of the dead. They often haunt ternal grounds, which

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<v Speaker 1>are above ground sites with the dead or left to

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<v Speaker 1>either putrefy or be cremated. They are super strong, super smart,

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<v Speaker 1>and super hungry for the blood that sustained them. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the most famous stories by the Vitala is found

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<v Speaker 1>in an ancient sanscrit book hailing from the eighth century

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<v Speaker 1>called the Vetala Pachisi, which means the twenty five Stories

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<v Speaker 1>of Atala. The story revolves around the famous Indian king

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<v Speaker 1>victrum Aditya, who was an actual historical figure from the

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<v Speaker 1>first century that reached mythological status over the sentries. There

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<v Speaker 1>are different interpretations and versions of the story, but the

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<v Speaker 1>basic premise is this the mighty king was asked by

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<v Speaker 1>a sorcerer to help capture of Atala that could be

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<v Speaker 1>found hanging from a tree in a graveyard. An eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy adaptation of the story by the British Oriental list

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<v Speaker 1>Sir Richard Francis Burton recounts the encounter of King Victram

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<v Speaker 1>and the vampire like this. Approaching the tree, he sat

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<v Speaker 1>there for a while to observe the body, which hung

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<v Speaker 1>head downwards from a branch a little above him. Its eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>which were wide open, were of a greenish brown, and

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<v Speaker 1>never twinkled. Its hair was also brown, and brown was

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<v Speaker 1>its face. Its body was thin and ribbed, like a

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<v Speaker 1>skeleton or a bamboo framework, and as it held onto

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<v Speaker 1>a bow like a flying fox, by the toe tips,

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<v Speaker 1>its drawn muscles stood out as if they were ropes

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<v Speaker 1>of coin. Blood it appeared to have none, and as

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<v Speaker 1>the raja handled its skin, it felt icy, cold and clammy,

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<v Speaker 1>as might a snake. The only sign of life was

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<v Speaker 1>the whisking of a ragged little tail, much resembling a

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<v Speaker 1>goat's king Vicram climbed the tree and sliced the branch

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<v Speaker 1>the beast hung from with his sword. He scrambled down

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<v Speaker 1>the tree trunk to get ahold of the creature, but

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<v Speaker 1>it slipped out of his grasp like a worm, and

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<v Speaker 1>levitated with legs up and once again grabbed a tree

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<v Speaker 1>branch with its toes. The Vitala swung back and forth

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<v Speaker 1>from the branch, laughing in the king's bewildered face. The

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<v Speaker 1>king tried again and again and again to cut down

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<v Speaker 1>the beast and capture him, but each time the Vitala

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<v Speaker 1>rose back up into the tree unbothered. Finally, the Vittala,

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<v Speaker 1>growing tired of the game, asked the king, who are

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<v Speaker 1>you and what do you want? His Royal highness responded

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<v Speaker 1>that he was Raja Victram, the great King of the land,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was his mission to take him back to

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<v Speaker 1>the sorcerer as he had promised to do. Hearing this,

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<v Speaker 1>the Vitala suddenly became coi and agreed to accompany the

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<v Speaker 1>king if only he was allowed to tell him stories

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<v Speaker 1>during the journey, and in those stories pose riddles with

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<v Speaker 1>this condition. Every time the king answered one of the

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<v Speaker 1>Vitala's riddles, the demon would escape and return to his tree.

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<v Speaker 1>But as long as the king remained silent, either out

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<v Speaker 1>of humility or because couldn't answer the question, the Vitala

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<v Speaker 1>would remain in his custody. Now this might seem kind

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<v Speaker 1>of counterintuitive and contradictory to most such stories that involved

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<v Speaker 1>conditions with riddles, but you see, this was a test

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<v Speaker 1>of the king's pride, and he accepted the test. And

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<v Speaker 1>so they took off, and the vampire told King Vicram

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<v Speaker 1>story after story after story, twenty four in all, and

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<v Speaker 1>in each story a riddle, and every time the king,

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<v Speaker 1>unable to control his ego and pride, would respond to

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<v Speaker 1>the Vitala's riddles with an answer, and every time he did,

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<v Speaker 1>the Vattalah would slip away, journeying back to his tree

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<v Speaker 1>in the graveyard, and the king would have to start

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<v Speaker 1>all over. Finally, after hearing the twenty five story and riddle,

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<v Speaker 1>King Victram pressed his lips together, refusing to answer. This

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<v Speaker 1>overjoyed the Vitala, who then revealed a secret to him.

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<v Speaker 1>The sorcerer, he said, was no friend of the king, indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>he was his enemy in disguise, out for the King's blood,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Vitala himself was in fact a trap the

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<v Speaker 1>sorcerer had placed for the king. Once revealing the secret,

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<v Speaker 1>the Vitala extracted itself from the body it inhabited, letting

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<v Speaker 1>out a slow, low hissing sound as it left. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>to the secret spilled by the Vitala, King Victram was

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<v Speaker 1>able to trick and kill the sorcerer, thereby growing in

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<v Speaker 1>power himself. And all this because he was able to

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<v Speaker 1>just once show a little humility. Now, the Vitala isn't

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<v Speaker 1>the only vampiresh creature in Indian folklore. In fact, there

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<v Speaker 1>are lots of them. The stories about the origins and

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<v Speaker 1>how they terrorize people vary, and you can hear all

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<v Speaker 1>those echoes in European vampire lore, but most of them

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<v Speaker 1>have a few things in common. That you'll find vampires

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<v Speaker 1>lingering and living among the human dead and graveyards and crematoriums,

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<v Speaker 1>that they yearned for human blood, and that, like the

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<v Speaker 1>gin woman in the train at the beginning in this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll find that their feet are turned backwards. As you

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<v Speaker 1>may have guessed it by now, there's no one definitive

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<v Speaker 1>way to identify a gin, but you'll probably know one

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<v Speaker 1>when you see it. The only time you might not, however,

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<v Speaker 1>is when a gin takes what I think is the

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<v Speaker 1>most dangerous and sinister form, transforming into someone you know,

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<v Speaker 1>which has been known to happen. Jin can and will

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<v Speaker 1>take on the appearance of not just any human, but

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<v Speaker 1>an actual human who's already living, or sometimes a human

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<v Speaker 1>who's very much dead. They can then play tricks on

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<v Speaker 1>the friends and loved ones of that person, lying to them,

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:44.800
<v Speaker 1>persuading them to do things or believe things they shouldn't.

0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Imagine how easy it could be to mislead someone that way,

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<v Speaker 1>and how much trouble it could get an innocent party in.

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<v Speaker 1>But then there is that one way to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>the person you're dealing with is really who they say

0:32:55.800 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 1>they are, because for some reason, the gin can shape

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<v Speaker 1>shift to trick you. But the one thing they can't

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<v Speaker 1>change is their feet. Their feet will either be backwards

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<v Speaker 1>or they'll be cloven hose, like in the story of

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<v Speaker 1>the beautiful Queen of Sheba, who was reportedly born of

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<v Speaker 1>a gin mother and a human father. But even she

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't shake the gin jeans, and in some accounts, while

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<v Speaker 1>she was stunningly beautiful, she did in fact have hairy

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<v Speaker 1>goat legs, hoves and all. Now we'll close out with

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<v Speaker 1>the story closer to home and closer in time to

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<v Speaker 1>us from New Mexico. According to the book The Vengeful

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<v Speaker 1>Gin in Ninete, the uncle of the questa New Mexico

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<v Speaker 1>police chief, was driving home late one night on a

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<v Speaker 1>lonely highway. A woman appeared out of the darkness, walking

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<v Speaker 1>on the side of the road by herself, dressed strangely

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<v Speaker 1>enough in a red evening gown. There was no telling

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<v Speaker 1>where she had come from. The highway was empty, and

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<v Speaker 1>he hadn't passed any abandoned cars. He pulled over and

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<v Speaker 1>offered her a ride, and she hopped into his pickup

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<v Speaker 1>truck quietly, not saying a word. After a few silent men,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the man turned to his passenger to ask her

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<v Speaker 1>what she was doing in the middle of nowhere that

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<v Speaker 1>late at night, and was horrified to find her dress

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<v Speaker 1>had fallen open, revealing legs like a goat and cloven hooves.

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<v Speaker 1>But before he could react or even scream, she poof

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<v Speaker 1>vanished into thin air. I guess the lesson to all

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<v Speaker 1>of us is, then, when in doubt, check the feet.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for joining us this week. Next week we'll be

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