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Speaker 1: And welcome to the Drive.

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Speaker 3: I'm Dale Lolly, he is the Matt Williamson, and I

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Speaker 3: am on location in Mobile, Alabama. Matt back in Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 3: and well, Matt, I don't know what the weather's Vicksburg,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't have bad at all. We snow's melting here,

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Speaker 1: but it's chilli, you know, so it's kind of nice

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Speaker 3: All their snow here is melted, So I did say.

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Speaker 3: I walked around that, walked over to the convention center

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Speaker 3: plus there for them. But anyways, so lots to get

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Speaker 3: to on today's show, Matt. Of course, the conference championship

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Speaker 3: games held over the weekend, Philadelphia just smashes Washington fifty

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Speaker 3: five twenty three, and Kansas City by the Nose of

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Speaker 3: Football beats the Buffalo Bills thirty two twenty nine. Did

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Speaker 3: you what did you learn coming out of those games?

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Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes and Spagnolo and Reed and all those guys

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Speaker 1: are really hard to beat, especially in a tight game.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the number that keeps standing out to me

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Speaker 1: I mean, seventeen games in a row in one score games,

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Speaker 1: Tyreek's gone all those type of things, but they play

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Speaker 1: really smart football, well prepared, and never get out of

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Speaker 1: with good not great quarterbacks and we'll see. I mean,

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Speaker 3: They've got some of that in place. You've got you've

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Speaker 3: But there are there is a path to get to

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Speaker 3: I mean all we heard all season long in Pittsburgh

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Speaker 3: they did work at times for the Steelers. But you

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Speaker 3: have to have the right kind of back to do that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I thought that was the best Hurts

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and again three offensive linemen in last year's draft.

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Speaker 3: Certainly, yeah, they had been. They were ultra ultra, ultra

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think people do forget those times, you know that, man,

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Speaker 3: And so you know, even going back to trading a

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Speaker 1: No, No, we have the twenty first pick, so we're

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Speaker 1: We're not going to go get anyone outside the organization. No,

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Speaker 1: The Ravens have been a very forward thinking team. You know,

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Speaker 3: Like you said, yeah, I also think. You know, one

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Speaker 1: Ivn't let alone weather things like that. I mean, running

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Speaker 1: games travel, right, and I do think that that's something

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Speaker 1: But if you can run the football, and as much

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Speaker 1: Now, I know that we both see this the same way.

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Speaker 3: And welcome back guy in Dale lollyhus the Matt Williamson

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Speaker 3: quarterback from Ole, Miss. He came in at six one

435
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 3: five eight two twenty five pounds. Hand size was nine

436
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 3: and three eights. Okay, he's pretty stout looking guy. He's

437
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 3: not the tallest guy, but but pretty thick.

438
00:23:55,600 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I kind of brushed him off early, know, thinking, man,

439
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: he's in this goofy system. It's one read and people

440
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 1: were rarely you know, done well in that. But I

441
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 1: so I'm short, you know, I think outside of Milrow.

442
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: He's the most exciting guy in this group. He's the

443
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: one that might be the answer, you know that if

444
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: it's not Milroe, or in addition to Milroe, and he

445
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: is well put together, and I think he can handle

446
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 1: a beating and has some mobility and kind of interesting. Yeah, no,

447
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 1: Row measured these quarterbacks are sort of interesting.

448
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, six and twenty three pounds in his hand

449
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 3: size was eight and seven eighth so not quite nine

450
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 3: inches but on this wall side not ideal. Yeah, but

451
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 3: it's not eight or something like that or closer closer

452
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 3: to nine and is closer to eight. Dylan Gabriel twenty

453
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 3: six foot Yeah, six foot.

454
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: That was good for I thought he might be five.

455
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: Oh really, you thought he'd be shorter than that. Yeah.

456
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

457
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: I think that's a win by an eighth of it

458
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: in so, I mean you would think it matt matter

459
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: that much. But if he was five eleven and seven eight,

460
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: I think it looked terrible. But that's six zero zero

461
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 1: zero across the board. I think is good for him.

462
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 3: One of the guys that they added. When we're backed out, Taylor,

463
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 3: I know where you go with this, Tyler, Tyler Taylor

464
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 3: Agrisma is played at at Laurier College or university, I

465
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 3: don't even know, but it's a Canadian foot it's a

466
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 3: Canadian football school.

467
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: Yes.

468
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 3: And last season Taylor as through for four thousand yards

469
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 3: with thirty four touchdown passes only ten interceptions. He also

470
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 3: ran for an additional where was that at? I saw

471
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 3: that he ran for like three hundred and some yards

472
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 3: or four hundred starts in seven more touchstowns. He's six six,

473
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 3: two hundred and twelve pounds, but he obviously has some

474
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 3: mobility to him. No, it's a it's a lower level

475
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 3: of college. There's no off answer, what's about it. But

476
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 3: I'm interested to see the guy who's six six, two

477
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 3: hundred and twelve pounds, Like that's classic quarterback size.

478
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: One hundred percent, and I think he's really intriguing. So

479
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: I heard a lot of the Canadian folks are pissed

480
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 1: off because he was going to be the first pick

481
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: in the Canadian draft. So if he gets drafted, he

482
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: just swiped the best guy off the board, you know,

483
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: Like he's clearly the best prospect in Canada, regardless of position.

484
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: From what I understand, I thought he might actually weigh

485
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: more than that because just listening to some people talk

486
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: about the kid, they kind of made him sound like

487
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 1: he was Ivan Drago, you know, like he was just

488
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: like this made it look like type of dude I

489
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: heard he's got he's got the blonde hair and the

490
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: whole deal. But he won basically every award that you

491
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: can win in Canada.

492
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone in twenty twenty four, and he won a

493
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 3: bunch of them in twenty twenty three as well.

494
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: Like he's mustable except for East Canadia. I mean, this

495
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: is such a crucial week for him. I mean, I

496
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: don't know that he can get into the day two conversation,

497
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: but he's on the map now. He looks the part.

498
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 1: He's an athlete. If you sit him on not even

499
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: a practice squad, if he's your number three and inactive

500
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 1: for a season, we might be talking about this guy

501
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 1: in a year or two. You know, who knows.

502
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 3: He may never hear from him again, but I think

503
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 3: he's super intriguing. There's there's I mean, he's Josh Allen

504
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 3: Sie basically, maybe not waitewise, but he could certainly. I

505
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 3: mean he's he's still in his early twenties. Guarantee that

506
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 3: two twelve, that he weighed in. I mean, he probably

507
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 3: didn't expect to be here. I don't know what he's

508
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 3: been doing, you know, since their season, Like, was he,

509
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 3: you know, working out or was he, you know, sitting

510
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 3: on I don't know, but he's He's intriguing at the

511
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 3: very Riley Leonards is also bigger than I thought he

512
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,360
Speaker 3: would be. He measured in just over six and twenty

513
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 3: one pounds.

514
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: M hm, no, he division.

515
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 3: I thought I thought he would be one of these

516
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 3: guys just like six foot and two hundred pounds.

517
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: Watching him on TV and the playoffs, I thought the

518
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: same thing. I thought he was kind of a run

519
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: around smaller, doesn't play huge. I'm not a big fan,

520
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, but I mean, no, I

521
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: never thought he was a Yeah, I never thought he'd

522
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: be that big either. One dude, I'm interested some of

523
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: them with the quarterbacks. While we're talking about is this

524
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: Tyler Shaw from Louisville. Yeah, I've heard it cut from

525
00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: people who I trust, say, yeah, he might be better

526
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: than people think. He's old. He's twenty five years old, which, frankly, yeah,

527
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: in today's quarterback doesn't bottom anymore. Might be a might

528
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: be a positive. I mean, Knicks is old, is old.

529
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: You know, he's just a name to look at. And

530
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: his heights of weight is fine, dude, Yeah, he looks apart.

531
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 3: He's almost almost six ' five and twy one pounds,

532
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 3: and he's an athlete, you know, in front of fit

533
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 3: and do those kind of things. Some of the running backs,

534
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,959
Speaker 3: we know the Steelers like bigger running backs. I mean

535
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 3: I think that's pretty well documented. They haven't had a

536
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 3: running back is their main guy?

537
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: Who was.

538
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 3: I don't know sub to ten ish, uh since Willie

539
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 3: Parker really and so if you look at.

540
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: They stumbled the draft him, they stumbled into him, you know. Yeah.

541
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 3: Olie Gordon came in from Oklahoma State at sixty one

542
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 3: just over six one, two hundred and thirty three pounds.

543
00:29:58,560 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's heavy, right.

544
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 3: I thought the catches the ball well and uh, you know,

545
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 3: didn't have as good a year this year as he

546
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 3: did last year, but the team wasn't as good.

547
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: I mean, they know he had much really good year

548
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: or two years ago.

549
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 3: Damian Martinez from Miami University five eleven and seven eight

550
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 3: two dred and forty one pounds and he's a bang.

551
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: We even talked about me. He is a banger. He

552
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: offers very little at least right now in the receiving game,

553
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: you know, but he will pick up the blitz. He's

554
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,959
Speaker 1: not a route runner. I don't know if he can

555
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: do it or not. That'll be huge for him this week.

556
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: But boy is he bring the thunder. I mean he

557
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: is a powerful, big dude. And that's even heavier than

558
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: I thought too. I mean, you're over to forty under

559
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: six feet. I mean that is a lot to break down.

560
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: That's a load. Yeah.

561
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 3: Put it this way now, Gie Harris is a shade

562
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 3: over six to one and he wass two hundred and

563
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 3: forty pounds. This guy's under and he's six foot and

564
00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 3: weighs two hundred and forty one pounds.

565
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: He's a handful. He's a handful.

566
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 3: Kalel Mullins is another one that that came in six one,

567
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 3: two twenty seven, Scannabo five ten to twenty five. That's

568
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 3: that's put together pretty well too. Yeah, I'm not sure

569
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 3: if he's going to work out.

570
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: I thought I heard news today that he got pretty

571
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: beat up in the playoffs and isn't going to do

572
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: anything there besides height and weight. But that's something to note.

573
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: These Michigan guys are interesting to me because Mullings is

574
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: a linebacker that they turned into a running back, you

575
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: know it. He's like linebacker via fullback to running back.

576
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: And the other dude is not for me. The other

577
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: Michigan back he has really bad vision. He's the athlete,

578
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: he's the recruit, but never really translated to Michigan style football,

579
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,239
Speaker 1: where Mullings went right past him.

580
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 3: That's one of the things I want is I don't

581
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 3: care how necessarily how fast the running back is, but

582
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 3: he better have good vision. I mean, yeah, got the

583
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 3: kid from the kid from the Rams. He ran a

584
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 3: four to seven the name kid, yep.

585
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: But he's got great vision and he just so he

586
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: makes it work, yep. And so to be frank, I

587
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: don't think that that's his best strength. I don't.

588
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 3: I don't.

589
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: I don't think is wonderful, right. I mean, he's a banger,

590
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: and yeah, we know what he is, but he especially

591
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: if you're then, he wasn't drafted to be a zone

592
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: runner and you look at you know Coach Smith's offense.

593
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: Zone running is a lot about vision. You know your

594
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: wait wait, wait, pick your whole see how things develop

595
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: through it. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah.

596
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 3: Devin Eil came in five to eleven and five of

597
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 3: a two hundred and twenty pound.

598
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: Bigger than I thought too.

599
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 3: If it's good feet, yeah, good size for him.

600
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. So no, there's some big background there, yeah,

601
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: the bigest pretty much it for the big backs at

602
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: the wide receiver position.

603
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 3: Some of these guys came in bigger than I thought.

604
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 3: Some guy's a little shorter, so a good.

605
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: Way of putting it. There's a couple of king sized dudes,

606
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: and then there's a couple like under five nine types,

607
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: you know, they're under five tens.

608
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 3: Dake One Felton came in at six four to twenty two.

609
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 3: Jaden Higgins almost six four to two hundred and seventeen pounds.

610
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 3: Kind of knew he was, sir.

611
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.

612
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 3: Xavier Orstrippo five nine and seven eights two hundred and

613
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 3: two pounds, so he's kind of built like Deebo Samuel.

614
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got some thickness to him. He's a good player.

615
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's lot only. I think that's

616
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: something he's enough to try to prove. If so, I don't,

617
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: I'm not super intrigued with him, but I think he's

618
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 1: going day two no matter what I've heard, Josh.

619
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, when he's got the ball in his hands, he

620
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 3: is lightning in a bottle. Yeah, like am I a

621
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 3: yeman or six two two ten, so a good size

622
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 3: from starting to fall in love with him, by the way, Yeah,

623
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 3: that's gonna be a really good number two quality player,

624
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, Jack Beck, I'm six one and three

625
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 3: eighths to eighteen, so he's pretty thick as well. And

626
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 3: again both of those guys plus blockers in the in

627
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 3: the as wide receivers. And yeah, at that size, you

628
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 3: can kind of understand why Bru McCoy six two two

629
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 3: fourteen and so another good sized receiver there. Some of

630
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 3: the guys who weren't quite as big as what maybe

631
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 3: what you'd like. Tesz Johnson came in at five ten,

632
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 3: one hundred and sixty pounds.

633
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: I know, I mean that's tank Dallas. I mean that's

634
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: too too at well, I mean that's small, that's slighter.

635
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: Think Kevin Austin. And you gotta be careful with those guys.

636
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, taller than Calvin Austin, but skinnier than Calvin Austin.

637
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: And what I mean by being I've made some mistakes.

638
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,439
Speaker 1: Early in my first couple of years at Senior Bowl,

639
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 1: I remember watching like Sonorous Moss, not Santana Moss, thinking Wow,

640
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: this guy's unbelievable, and I'm like, yeah, but he's got

641
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: a lot of time to get off the line of

642
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: scrimmage and a lot of space to work with down there,

643
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: you know, Like some of these little dudes I'm really

644
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 1: talking about Ted Johnson might look good these next couple

645
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: of days, but that doesn't. There's a few tank dells

646
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: that get away with it, you know, Yeah, for sure

647
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: there are too.

648
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 3: Joel's here, Yes, I think, well that's what thought. Yes,

649
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 3: And they're both things, they've got to They're both named Jalen.

650
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 3: It's both spelled exactly the same way. And they're almost

651
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 3: the same damn size, And I don't know which one

652
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 3: is which, not exactly.

653
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: So there's two of it that just look at that too,

654
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: like is that a misprint? Because one of them is

655
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: an inch taller almost than the other. But they're both

656
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: one hundred ninety six pounds. Yeah, and they're but one

657
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: has longer arm same aren't the same and are they

658
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: from the same school? But I don't know. I guess yeah,

659
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: I haven't gotten far into my strange one.

660
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 3: I've got the Yeah, I've got I'm looking. I'm looking

661
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 3: at the at the roster sheets. Okay, so when is

662
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 3: it Jalen Well from Iowa State and he can fly.

663
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 3: I'm looking here the other Jalen no Weel from it

664
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Speaker 3: almost has to know I'm only seeing I'm only seeing

665
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:01,439
Speaker 3: one Jalen no Well. So he must have waited twice. Story,

666
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 3: I'll do some unless they brought in another guy because

667
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 3: somebody else backed out. But I've got the rosters here

668
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 3: and running me on paper that they handed out today,

669
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 3: and I'm only seeing one Jalen Well. But they must

670
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 3: have even twice, or somebody made a mistake when they

671
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 3: were puttinghim in. I don't know, maybe there's a new

672
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 3: the name is wrong. Yeah, tight ends. We're not really

673
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 3: going to talk about some of the offensive linemen, though.

674
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 3: When you see some of these guys listed as potentially

675
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 3: being guards, you kind of understand when you start looking

676
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 3: at the sizes. Now, the ariante urseries of the world,

677
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 3: six six, three thirty seven.

678
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: He's attack all day.

679
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 3: He's got the size, he's got thirty four inch arms.

680
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 3: He's plenty, plenty big enough to ride the ride. Anthony

681
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 3: Belton six Yeah, that's not arms. Josh Connorley, the kid

682
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:59,479
Speaker 3: out of Oregon six four and a half, three oh five,

683
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 3: he didn't he didn't have his wingspan measured here, So

684
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 3: I'd assume.

685
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Speaker 1: He's gonna do that. It's always already.

686
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe he's gonna his uh, you know, stretch from

687
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 3: hang from the seating for the next month or something

688
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 3: like that, to try to stretch it right.

689
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: Why millinerily though? Is I think he moves like a

690
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: tackle though I'd be shocked. Yeah, people still projecting him

691
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: to guard even though he's under six five.

692
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 3: Whyatt millim from uh from West Virginia six six and

693
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 3: two eight three eighteen. That sounds good? Thirty two inch

694
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 3: arms here? That doesn't sound good, right, Yeah.

695
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 1: No, usually thirty four is ideal for a tackle. Makes

696
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: me think you better at least be hope he's.

697
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Speaker 3: Not thirty five and a half that you can get

698
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 3: you can get by or thirty four and a half

699
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 3: three and a half, I should say you can get by.

700
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Speaker 1: But he's not too tall for guard. And yeah, yeah

701
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: the tall guys, so that's tall guys with short ar

702
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: arms are rarely hit.

703
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 3: Marcus Mambau came in at six five three oh five,

704
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 3: didn't didn't have his arm measured. Jalen rivers six five

705
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 3: and three a three thirty seven.

706
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Speaker 1: People tackle body.

707
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's definitely gona tackle bodied, but he see what

708
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 3: his arms are thirty four thirty four and three eight bad?

709
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 3: So yeah, not bad cadgers uh six four and three

710
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 3: eighths uh three oh three, but only thirty two and

711
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 3: three eights inch arms. And you got the Aussie tripio

712
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 3: six seven and seven eighths three fourteen some all he's

713
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 3: his arms are under the third four inches at six

714
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 3: almost six.

715
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Speaker 1: Eight almost six eight, which is yeah, I mean he's

716
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: gonna be sometimes he's not gonna be a six eight Yeah, No,

717
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: that's not gonna work.

718
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 3: The Jalen track, right yeah, Jaylen Travis the same thing,

719
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 3: six to seven in an eighth three fourteen. His arms

720
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 3: are over thirty four inches. Gray's Abel the kid out

721
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 3: of the Dakota's six ' five in four eighths three

722
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Speaker 3: oh four but only thirty two and a quarter inch arms.

723
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not great. I mean there's a lot of

724
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: position versatility with him, but maybe not. Maybe he's only interior.

725
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, some of these defensive linemen, well, a couple of

726
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 3: these guys are listed as offensive line in their defensive lineman.

727
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 3: Darius Alexander, the kid out of was he at Taledo,

728
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 3: one of the fact schools anyways, six ' four even

729
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 3: three oh five, so a good size for him. Looks

730
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 3: like a potential three four defensive end.

731
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Speaker 1: With that, I would change. I'd like to see his arms,

732
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: but he did not measure in Yeah arm length, yeah, yaha.

733
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 3: Black the big defensive tackle, sixty five and five eighth

734
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 3: three thirty seven and thirty five inch arms, plus he's

735
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 3: got ten and three eighth inch hands, much like Catcher.

736
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of human being there. Yeah, like the

737
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,720
Speaker 1: next couple of days. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna be watching.

738
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Speaker 3: There's there's a lot of these defensive tackle types that

739
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 3: are just monsters. Landon Jackson didn't come in quite as

740
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 3: tall as what he was. He was padded at six seven.

741
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 3: He was six five and a half, which is plenty

742
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 3: tall enough to seventy fine, right, right, sixty seven could

743
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 3: be a problem, you know, right, this is a guy,

744
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 3: This next guy I want to mention, here's a guy

745
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 3: that interests me a little bit. Here Matt and Nias

746
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 3: Peebles out of Virginia Tech. Have you looked at him

747
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 3: at all yet?

748
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: No? I know six tall are explosive type six.

749
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 3: One two eighty six. But he's got a really explosive

750
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 3: first step that kind of reminds me of Jalen Hargrave

751
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 3: a little bit, except he's a little he's a little

752
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 3: bit heavy, and he doesn't have Gillan spot, let's put

753
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 3: it that way. Yeah, Yeah, but he's got that glow,

754
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 3: he's got that great first step.

755
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

756
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 3: Looking at Ty Robinson, the kid out of U and

757
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 3: the Nebraska six five and an eighth two seventy one. Now,

758
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 3: I bet he's six fifteen on like nothing right, easily, Yeah, easily,

759
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 3: he's got he's got ten in chance as well.

760
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:17,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

761
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 3: Alfred Collins came in at sixty five and five eighths

762
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 3: three nineteen. Camera Jackson sixty six and two eights three

763
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 3: fifty three.

764
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Speaker 1: Dude. Yeah.

765
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 3: Omar Norman Lott out of Tennessee six three even three

766
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 3: hundred pounds he.

767
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 1: Gets to the quarterback.

768
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 3: He's a good defensive end prospect, would be a mid

769
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 3: round three quarter of end prospect.

770
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: You brought him up a couple of weeks ago. And

771
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: I didn't know who he was, and I just happened

772
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: to read up on him this morning and per pff,

773
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: he has their best pass war rush windbreak of all

774
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 1: the defensive tackles in this draft. But they don't play

775
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: him a ton of snaps, you know, they just have

776
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: a rotation there, so he doesn't play snap after snap

777
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: after snap. He's kind of a pass for us specialist

778
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: for them, but really really effective at it. So I'm

779
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: curious to see, if it a bigger workload, what he

780
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: could do. So Norman Lott, I think is somebody that

781
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 1: they absolutely need to look at. Yeah, for sure, I

782
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 1: think you can find some guys like that.

783
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 3: And again, if he comes in and plays fifteen snapches

784
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 3: a rookie for you, but they're fifteen effective passers snaps,

785
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 3: and then he grows into this position, I'm okay with that.

786
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,439
Speaker 1: Absolutely. I don't see that as a negative at all. Yeah,

787
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: not at all.

788
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 3: Uh Dian Walker came in at six seven and two eights,

789
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 3: three hundred and forty pounds, and we wonder why he

790
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 3: can't play the run well real well from the nose

791
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 3: tackle position. He's sick. He's over six seven.

792
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: He's like Max Stark size, right, I mean there are

793
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: every there. There's those Allotti Hillodi Nadas, and some bigger

794
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: dudes that aren't you know, round Casey Hampton body types.

795
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: But they're few and far between, and they're not that tall.

796
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: They're six five you know.

797
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple of the defensive backs I wanted to

798
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,919
Speaker 3: notice and make note of you real quick. Arian Borter

799
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 3: came in at six two and three eights one hundred

800
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 3: and ninety seven pounds. You had Dorian Strong at six

801
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 3: foot four eights one hundred and eighty three pounds, and

802
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 3: Azerier Thomas from.

803
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 1: Florida State six two four.

804
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 3: So get some of these bigger type defensive backs that

805
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 3: the Steelers might mike like some of those guys, so

806
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 3: keep an eye on them as well. But we got

807
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 3: to get to another break. He is Matt Williamson. I

808
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 3: am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here on

809
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 3: the Steelers Audio Network, Matt and I'll be back with

810
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 3: more right after this.

811
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Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

812
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

813
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

814
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: Welcome back.

815
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly.

816
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: He is the Matt Williamson and Matt Art.

817
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 3: Rooney the second spoke to the media today, and we'll

818
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,439
Speaker 3: have Jerry du Lac. I obviously couldn't be there today

819
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 3: because I was traveling, but Jerry Dulac was there. He's

820
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 3: going to join us in the next segment to talk

821
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 3: about what Art had to say. But the big thing

822
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 3: is is come out of that was that his preference

823
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 3: is to re sign Russell Wilson or Justin Fields to

824
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 3: be the team's quarterback next year, but he doesn't see

825
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 3: a possibility of signing resigning both because he said they

826
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 3: both see themselves as starters somewhere in the league next year.

827
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Speaker 1: Okay, I hadn't really dug into it, but that's interesting.

828
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I could see where both players would take

829
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: that stance that, Hey, I'm looking at the quarterback musical

830
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: chairs and there's a lot of open one. So I'm

831
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: not going to be thrilled coming back with my buddy

832
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: Russ or my buddy Justin and I'm going to go

833
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: be the guy somewhere else that makes sense. And I

834
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: do think I'm not shocked to hear that. Yeah, he

835
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: didn't say they're going to resign one of their own,

836
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: but it sounds like, you know, at least how the

837
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: way you phrased it, that first it would be their

838
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: happy words to do that.

839
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 3: Yet Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And and they think I

840
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 3: think they can win with either guy.

841
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that doesn't surprise me that that's the most likely

842
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 1: approach to this.

843
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 3: No, nor I but you know the fact that he

844
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 3: doesn't think that they're going to be able to resign

845
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 3: them both. That was the first time that I've heard

846
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 3: they both feel like they can go out and be

847
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 3: starters somewhere in the league. Maybe maybe they test that

848
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:49,919
Speaker 3: and they find that that's not the case.

849
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what's out there.

850
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 3: I don't know what you know, either one of them

851
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 3: is going to want in terms of a contract or

852
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 3: anything of that of that nature.

853
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: I have no idea.

854
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 3: I don't know what the market's going to be for

855
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 3: either one of them, right, nor does anybody else for

856
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 3: that matter, where else everybody's speculating on that. But I

857
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 3: do know that Pete Carroll was just hired as the

858
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 3: head coach of the Las Vegas Raiders.

859
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: So and I know he and he and Russell Wilson.

860
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 3: They got a relationship with Yes, they've got quite history together,

861
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 3: and we know that, we know Pete Carroll's not in

862
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 3: this for the long term. And I know for a

863
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 3: fact that Russell Russell well either way, Rob justin fields,

864
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 3: one or the other would be an upgrade over what

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Speaker 3: the Raiders have right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes a ton of sense for the Raiders,

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Speaker 1: especially where they're sitting too in the draft. They're not

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Speaker 1: really in striking distance. Well they're in striking distance, but

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Speaker 1: it would cost a lot and you'd have to love

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Speaker 1: one of those dudes, and who knows if you could

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Speaker 1: even get there. And Wilson, I mean, I think it's

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Speaker 1: pretty clear whether it's Brady's influence or not. My hunch

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Speaker 1: is he has a lot to do with it. It's

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Speaker 1: culture building time in Vegas, you know. I mean, things

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Speaker 1: have gotten off the rails. We're gonna go get the

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Speaker 1: bucks GM that Brady knew really, really well, and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go get Pete Carroll, who's the ultimate culture building

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Speaker 1: type guy, you know, whether it's a short term thing

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Speaker 1: or whatever. Yeah. So and Wilson, just little Wilson would

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Speaker 1: be great for that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, so we'll see if that that

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Speaker 3: throws a little wrench into into everything or not, you know,

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Speaker 3: don't even know which which one the Steelers prefer at

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Speaker 3: this point, but just interesting little occurrence that happened late

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Speaker 3: last week.

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Speaker 1: But let's get to a break. That's going to do

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Speaker 1: it for.

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Speaker 3: Our number one.

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Speaker 1: Here on the drive.

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Speaker 3: Matt and I will be back with our number two

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Speaker 3: right after this