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Speaker 1: Oh time, Hey, good afternoon. Welcome to Cleveland, everybody, John Murphy,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, Welcome to One Goes Live percent of by

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Speaker 1: Kalid to Health. You are you waving? Two camera people

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Speaker 1: are out there watching. We are on location. We've been

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Speaker 1: so this is nothing new. But we are inside the

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Speaker 1: downtown Cleveland Hilton Hotel, a beautiful hotel, and they've set

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Speaker 1: us up well. They've done a great job setting us

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Speaker 1: We have a late arriving studio audience. Yeah, they're down

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Speaker 1: to nobody, advantage of the buffet lunch, nobody's here. This

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Speaker 1: is a great hotel. Have you noticed that this this

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Speaker 1: I asked. Somebody said, it's only a couple of years old.

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Speaker 1: This is one of the best hotels I've been in

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Speaker 1: stay different hood it. This the first time I ever

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Speaker 1: this is nice. Yeah, and they've been great. They've they've

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Speaker 1: and they've done everything for us. I think we're doing okay.

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Speaker 1: The show looks like the show. I gotta like a

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Speaker 1: hotel that's well staffed. Yes, you know, yes, well they

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Speaker 1: It has been very nice. It's a great hotel. They're

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Speaker 1: doing a great job with us. And while we're throwing

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Speaker 1: out bouquets, we got to throw out one to our producer,

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Speaker 1: Jay Harris. He has done the work of three men

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Speaker 1: here over the last less than twenty four hours, re

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Speaker 1: as soon as our show ended at three fifteen. Steve

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Speaker 1: Jay got us here safely and immediately jumped into action,

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Speaker 1: setting us up here one man doing the work, as

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Speaker 1: they said, of three men. A couple of those slackers

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Speaker 1: should have come down here to help them. You know

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Speaker 1: who you are. But but seriously, Jay's done a great

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Speaker 1: job coming around to applause everybody for Jay Harris, our producer. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Jay's Cleland. But thanks for tuning in. We're on the radio,

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Speaker 1: of course, on our flagship in Buffalo and on TV

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Speaker 1: and MSG with a sign And it's a little buzzy

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Speaker 1: here in Cleveland too. What do you mean was I

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Speaker 1: think there's a little bit of vibe going on. This

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Speaker 1: is their first home preseason game. They got Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: I think the Sea's gonna turn out get a good

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Speaker 1: crowd for this Cleveland game down here. They're they're looking

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Speaker 1: for their Brownies to play well tonight. Well, I had

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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff going on in this game too.

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Speaker 1: Two separate lift drivers, one going, one coming last night,

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Speaker 1: this game. Both commented the game tonight here in Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: first home preseason game for the Browns, and Steve said,

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Speaker 1: there's a buzz about this team. I mean, there's only

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Speaker 1: one way to go for this team, Steve. They are

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Speaker 1: owing sixteen last year and one to fifteen the year before,

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Speaker 1: the fact that there is a buzz about this game.

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Speaker 1: I think he says a lot about the great fan

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're it's easy now. We do it too

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Speaker 1: you kind of spend everything positive because you want these

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Speaker 1: wins for your team and for your city. Cleveland does

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Speaker 1: the same thing, and they have reason to think it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a much better year this year. They've got

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Speaker 1: a lot of intriguing names and a lot of guys

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Speaker 1: He's not going to turn it over. He's five or five.

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Speaker 1: Last week, let a touchdown drive to open the game

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Speaker 1: looking forward to a kickoff seven thirty. Steve will have

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Speaker 1: Brown on the Bills Television Network right seven thirty broadcast there.

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Speaker 1: We've got the radio call on our flagship radio here

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Speaker 1: Countdown to kickoff starts at four pm. Kickoff at seven

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Speaker 1: thirty with myself, Mark Kelso and Sal Capaccio. I'll tell

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Speaker 1: To the Cleveland Brown Steve nay May, I have a

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Speaker 1: feeling they're gonna sign Dez Bryant before kickoff, just to

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Speaker 1: I have a feeling that's gonna happen before kickoff, just

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Speaker 1: it would be It would add a lot of buzz

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Speaker 1: They've got some stuff going on their wide receiver position

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Speaker 1: with Jarvis Landry, with Antonio Callaway, who played pretty well

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Speaker 1: steps up and plays consistently enough. They're still looking for

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Speaker 1: Josh Gordon to return to this team. So they've got

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Speaker 1: a lot of physical talent. Dez Bryant would be one more,

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Speaker 1: air it out pretty good. You know, I've been down

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Speaker 1: she's been covering the Browns. She knows this team. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about it because she was pretty positive

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Speaker 1: sees something here. Now, I didn't see it until the

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Speaker 1: last couple of days. When you look deep at the roster,

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Speaker 1: that's talent, right. I gotta admit Jarvis Landry, Josh Gordon

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Speaker 1: has something to offer this team. We know who Tyrod is.

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Speaker 1: You can play with Tyrod Taylor. You can get to

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Speaker 1: the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor as your quarterback. They do.

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Speaker 1: They do have some talent at the running back spot,

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Speaker 1: I see where the talent is here in the Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Browns roster. I also see signs of dysfunction and you know,

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Speaker 1: And we'll see. Maybe you can. You can, We've seen it.

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Speaker 1: You can win without being a completely focused, button down team.

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Speaker 1: two coordinators, who who love you know, who love controversies,

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Speaker 1: a preseason game. There's a lot of layers. I like it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Tim Rump, Hard Knocks director and NFL Films producer schedule

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Speaker 1: the Bills Radio Network, my game day partner, will be

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Speaker 1: this morning. He's getting set for the game tonight. Nobody

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Speaker 1: studies harder for the game than Steve Tasker or Markelso. No, seriously,

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Speaker 1: You gotta paint that picture and he does a nice

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Speaker 1: today in two o'clock hour Bills Inside or Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: We'll take you right up till just before kickoff today.

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Speaker 1: Not a whole lot going on as far as the

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Speaker 1: Bills aren't concerned. They flew down here yesterday at one o'clock,

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Speaker 1: I was passing in the hallway today, Eddie yarbro second,

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Speaker 1: of the test on the evaluation forget about playing, Let's

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Speaker 1: see if you know when you're supposed to be in

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Speaker 1: there and when you can get off and on, can

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Speaker 1: you stay engaged in the game, and can we run

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Speaker 1: a play when we call it? And I think they

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Speaker 1: did a really really good job of that. So do

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Speaker 1: they take that a step deeper and give a more

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Speaker 1: complex thing to do with those personnel combinations or do

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Speaker 1: we continue to just you know, make that the object

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Speaker 1: is make sure you just get the right people on

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Speaker 1: because knowing when you get into the regular season, you're

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Speaker 1: installing specific place that week anyway. So I think that's

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Speaker 1: what I'm looking forward to that And that's a great question.

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Speaker 1: I think I really want the players on that side

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Speaker 1: of the football to have a level of expertise in

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Speaker 1: this offense and the personnel combinations, the formations, the shifts,

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Speaker 1: the motions and the adjustments that to me is critical

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Speaker 1: for this offense is success this year. That's gonna be

440
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Speaker 1: their go to thing. They're gonna be multiple you're gonna have,

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Speaker 1: They're gonna make you think and if you know your

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Speaker 1: own team and offense can't get lined upright or have

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Speaker 1: the right people on board and have to take time

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Speaker 1: outs and take delay of game penalties and start jumping

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Speaker 1: off sides. You're gonna have big issues to go deep

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Speaker 1: in this team. And I think if that's what I'm

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Speaker 1: looking for in the game tonight is people to have

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Speaker 1: an expertise in this offense as much as we can

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Speaker 1: tell that they do. What are you looking for that

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Speaker 1: Steve's talking about what he's looking for as far as

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Speaker 1: the offense and the offensive approach. Give us a call.

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Speaker 1: We got lines open at eight oh three oh five

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Speaker 1: fifty toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two

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Speaker 1: five fifty, or you can do it on Twitter at

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Speaker 1: one Bill's Live. Eric Richardson from the tweet Chet says,

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Speaker 1: I can't wait for this game. Whoever says that about

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Speaker 1: a preseason game, that's great. Eric Richardson, I can't wait

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Speaker 1: for this game. Tyrod Taylor owes a debt and the

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Speaker 1: Bills collectors are coming to collect. Josh Allen hopefully get

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Speaker 1: some extended playing time and goes toe to toe with

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. I want to see the offensive line continue

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Speaker 1: to protect the quarterback and play well. A lot of

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Speaker 1: stuff there. You also believe that you want to see

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Speaker 1: some stuff from the offensive line right. Absolutely, absolutely, I

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Speaker 1: think they need to start picking five guys and stick

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Speaker 1: with them. They've been rotating Russ Bodine and Ryan groy

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Speaker 1: at center. The guards, I think Fladu cost gonna end

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Speaker 1: up taking over the left guard where Richie Incognito was,

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Speaker 1: and I think John Miller's going to move back into

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Speaker 1: the starting spot that he lost last year to Ladd

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Speaker 1: cost At at right guard. And then your tackles, I

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Speaker 1: think they're set. You got the same left tackle he

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Speaker 1: did a year ago in Dion Dawkins and Jordan Mills

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Speaker 1: at right tackle. Who is who has become starting to

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Speaker 1: become a fixture over there. So I think they feel

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Speaker 1: good about those guys. But we'll see how they rotate,

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Speaker 1: because they will. I mean, they'd love to have eight

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Speaker 1: guys that they think they could start. Any combination of

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Speaker 1: five guys within those eight, it'll be interesting to see.

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Speaker 1: I think Russ Brodine and Ryan groyer those guys and

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Speaker 1: behind them maybe Whyatt Teller has emerged as one of

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Speaker 1: the guys they liked behind him, and which of those

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Speaker 1: tackles isn't going to back. DeAndre Wesley has had a

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Speaker 1: good camp opened some ice here. Yeah, offensive, you know

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Speaker 1: what I think is big what I want to see tonight.

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Speaker 1: We talked about quarterbacks that would be top of my list.

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Speaker 1: I want to see Corey Coleman a lot, and I

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Speaker 1: want to for the bill sake. I want to see

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Speaker 1: Corey Coleman be effective tonight. Look, he's only been around

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Speaker 1: for a week, two weeks a week and a half

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Speaker 1: in practice, so he understandably wouldn't have complete command of

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Speaker 1: the playbook. I get that, but there are things he

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Speaker 1: can do which deal with speed and a deep threat

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Speaker 1: that he's good at four point three seven forty yard dashtime.

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Speaker 1: I hope that they utilize that. I think day want

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Speaker 1: I think coaching Bill's coaches wants to see what Corey

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Speaker 1: Coleman might provide. They've got a question at receiver right.

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Speaker 1: Coleman is a former talented first round pick fifteenth overall,

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Speaker 1: So even though he hasn't done it yet on a

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Speaker 1: consistent basis in the NFL two years in this I

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Speaker 1: think he realizes this is his chance. I want to

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Speaker 1: see Corey Coleman a lot, a lot of snaps tonight,

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Speaker 1: and I want to see him make a difference tonight.

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Speaker 1: That really is at or near the top of my

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Speaker 1: wish list. And I think from the coach's standpoint and

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Speaker 1: from their point of view, you got this guy, Corey Coleman,

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Speaker 1: and all the stuff that's been said about him in Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: all the problems he had, the injuries, the drop passes

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Speaker 1: that you know, all the baggage that he brings in.

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Speaker 1: He was traded. He was part of the Carson Wentz

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Speaker 1: trade for Cleveland. There's that baggage that he had nothing

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Speaker 1: to do with. And then he asked me, he said,

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Speaker 1: even on hard knocks, she said, if you didn't want

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Speaker 1: me to play me, just trade me. And here he

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Speaker 1: is coming back. And I think, if you're the Bills

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Speaker 1: coaching staff, you want to find out what that guy's

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Speaker 1: made of. All right, you ask for a trade, they

518
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Speaker 1: gave it to you. Now get to go back, and

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have a huge opportunity to rub their faces

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Speaker 1: in it. Are you going to show up tonight? Are

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Speaker 1: you going to do that? We're gonna give you. I

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Speaker 1: would think they're going to give him a big opportunity

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Speaker 1: to come in and make a difference in this game.

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Speaker 1: And I think part of his evaluation process forget about

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Speaker 1: how will he plays how he acts? You know how?

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Speaker 1: What's his mindset? Is this a game he's going to

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Speaker 1: embrace or this is a bit? I think this is

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Speaker 1: the line here, and I think it should be in

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Speaker 1: a game like this. If you're Corey Coleman, if you

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Speaker 1: can't put the extra effort in getting the plays that

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Speaker 1: you're going to run to your list of plays, if

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Speaker 1: you're if you can't put it all in one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent in a game like this, thanks for stopping by,

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Speaker 1: right You know, we don't care where you got sted.

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Speaker 1: We didn't draft. Thanks for stopping by. It was great

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Speaker 1: scene to move on along. I mean that's it. I

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Speaker 1: mean that this is a game for him that will

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Speaker 1: say a lot about what he's capable of and where

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Speaker 1: his heads at. I and I agree with you merv this.

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Speaker 1: I want to see him a ton in this game.

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Speaker 1: More from the tweet sheet to our question, what are

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Speaker 1: you looking for from tonight's game? What do you want

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Speaker 1: to see? Mad cow two fifty one tweets in Besides

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Zay Jones, and Corey Coleman, one of them

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Speaker 1: needs to step up in a big way this season.

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Speaker 1: I agree. The problem with Zay is Steve. He's only

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Speaker 1: had three days of a full non contact practice, right,

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Speaker 1: I won't count yesterday's walked through, so he had Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: So do you want to you know, he's coming off injury.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that they're going to give him a

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Speaker 1: heavy workload tonight. Zay Jones, He's looked good in practice.

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Speaker 1: He looks like a different attitude in practice. But I

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Speaker 1: don't know if I would put him to the test tonight,

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Speaker 1: maybe a week from tonight. He and Coleman has a

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Speaker 1: good thing that you put. I think that Mad Cow

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Speaker 1: two fifty one put him together. Zay and Coleman both

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Speaker 1: are kind of in that spot where this is a

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Speaker 1: big shot for them. Zay Jones been standing around watching

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Speaker 1: for a long time. He's fallen behind. He's kind of off,

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Speaker 1: He's on the back burner. Or how's he gonna do?

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Speaker 1: How's he gonna be? He's got all that stuff from

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Speaker 1: the off season and last year, how's he gonna do.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like Corey Coleman, like this is a

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Speaker 1: big opportunity, just don't come in. I just don't know

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Speaker 1: the day is physically and coming up only three days

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Speaker 1: of practice, this week. I don't know if you really

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Speaker 1: want to put him to the test, right, how is

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Speaker 1: he going to come into this game? Is he gonna

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Speaker 1: have a chance to flex? I mean, say, hey, I'm

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Speaker 1: a number two draft pick, watch this, you know that

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Speaker 1: kind of thing, even after the short preparation. But I

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Speaker 1: you know, and and I agree with you, that's a

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be something to watch as well. We have

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Speaker 1: from the tweet sheet again from Mikey, which I know

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Speaker 1: I'm reading this because I know you I was gonna

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Speaker 1: read it right in your This is your hitting up this, Mike,

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Speaker 1: He's hitting a home run from URF. He'd love to

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Speaker 1: see Alan with the number ones. You want to see

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Speaker 1: Josh Adam play with the first team. Wanted to see

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Speaker 1: him start, and it doesn't based on the week of practice,

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Speaker 1: the way we saw him used during practice, that doesn't

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Speaker 1: appear likely. Now, there's nothing that might not prevent them

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Speaker 1: from working Josh Allen with some first teamers tonight. You know,

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Speaker 1: if if mccaron starts, maybe Josh Allen can. If he's

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Speaker 1: gonna go into the second quarterback, he'd work with twos

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Speaker 1: and maybe a couple of ones. Look, I'm all ones.

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Speaker 1: Twos and especially twos and three. The distinctions get a

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Speaker 1: little hazy, right, you asked me in some positions, is

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Speaker 1: this guy's second team or a third team? Or have

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Speaker 1: a hard time telling you for some positions. Really, I

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Speaker 1: mean there's kind of talking it is. Yeah, it's a

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Speaker 1: pecking order, but it's it's a hazy, unclear pecking order.

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Speaker 1: So Josh Hanley could get some work with ones tonight

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Speaker 1: or some ones any and I'd be good with that.

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Speaker 1: I wish they'd give him a big, heavy workload to night,

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Speaker 1: and maybe they will. They might just do that. A

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Speaker 1: call here from Dave in Buffalo. Dave, go ahead, you're

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Speaker 1: on the air with us. Hey, guys, great show. I

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Speaker 1: love it. Um. I just want to say, you, guys, separation,

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Speaker 1: not seeing any separation right now with the quarterbacks, And

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Speaker 1: I guess my point and then I have a question.

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Speaker 1: My point is that maybe Erence looking for separation and

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Speaker 1: that's why he's switching around the way they are with

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Speaker 1: absolutely And if you don't think, if you don't, I

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Speaker 1: guess my question is if you don't see any separation

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Speaker 1: at the tonight or even throughout the week, do you

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Speaker 1: think he would allen a chance? Next three seasons with

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Speaker 1: the ones. I would actually, and I want to get

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Speaker 1: Steve on this too, Dave, I would actually think, if

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Speaker 1: there's not a great deal of separation tonight, look, I

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Speaker 1: guess if Josh Allen doesn't separate tonight, I think my

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Speaker 1: guess is McDermot would be inclined to go the other way,

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Speaker 1: to go with mccaron or with Peterman, just because you know,

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Speaker 1: it's a little bit safer. Bet If Josh Allen could

615
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Speaker 1: look really good tonight and show, you know, put on

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Speaker 1: display his big strong arm and all of the dynamic

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Speaker 1: potential he possesses. If I'm the head coach, I'm thinking, oh,

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Speaker 1: maybe I gotta use this guy right away. But if

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Speaker 1: you don't get that, you'd think, Okay, he looks good,

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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go with the safe bet here mccaren

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Speaker 1: or Peterman. That's just my interpretation of the way they

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Speaker 1: might play. And one of the things that happened also, Dave,

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Speaker 1: thanks for the call, is when they talk about separation. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: no question that it's easier to play well when you've

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Speaker 1: got number one personnel around you. When you step up

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Speaker 1: there with the first offensive line with Kelvin, Benjamin and

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Speaker 1: Jeremy Curley and he got those guys running with you

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Speaker 1: and Charles Clay a tight end, it's easier to look

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Speaker 1: good as a quarterback. One of the other things is

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Speaker 1: they wanted to see if one of these quarterbacks, Peterman

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Speaker 1: or mccaren, when they go back to the number threes,

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Speaker 1: can they make those guys better. That was part of

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Speaker 1: the evaluation process. They want to see these quarterbacks be leaders.

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Speaker 1: They want to see him step up and say, listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna make you better. I'm gonna throw to you,

636
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna make you know. So part of the evaluation

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Speaker 1: process is the effect that that quarterback has on the

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Speaker 1: players that are down the roster the number threes. Can

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Speaker 1: they step into that huddle and improve the play of

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Speaker 1: those guys? Can they show themselves, the coaching staff and

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Speaker 1: maybe even Josh Allen how it's done when you're trying

642
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Speaker 1: to be the guy and be the lead dog and

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Speaker 1: be the best player on the field. And I think

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Speaker 1: that they want to see that from those guys as well. So,

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Speaker 1: like whether it's Peterman or mccaren or Allen who's taken

646
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Speaker 1: reps with the threes, they want to note can they

647
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: elevate other players around them, and vice versa. Can they

648
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: take advantage of the better players around them when they

649
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: do play with those guys. So I think that's part

650
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Speaker 1: of the evaluation process that went into the flip flopping

651
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: into the quarterbacks this week as well. I thought the

652
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Speaker 1: caller Dave made a really good point early on in

653
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Speaker 1: his call when he said, maybe the reason why mccaren

654
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Speaker 1: is flipping the rotation here in these games is because

655
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Speaker 1: he hasn't seen separation. I think McDermott, yeah, yeah, McDermott, Yeah,

656
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: he hasn't seen separation yet and he wants to know, right.

657
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Speaker 1: That's what part of what this preseason is all about,

658
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Speaker 1: answering those questions. I've been getting the field though. Two

659
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Speaker 1: that some of the stuff that I've been and I'm

660
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Speaker 1: gonna listening to all of the press conferences and the

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Speaker 1: questions that they've answered, how they've answered, and McDermott, I

662
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Speaker 1: really get the feeling that all these flip flops, the two,

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Speaker 1: you know, the twos and the ones and the ones

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Speaker 1: and the twos and the threes and then the threes

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Speaker 1: to the ones and the ones to the threes, and

666
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Speaker 1: in all this stuff, the quarterback, I get a feeling

667
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Speaker 1: they had this exact thing planned three months ago. Listen,

668
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Speaker 1: after the first preseason game, we're gonna give that whatever

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Speaker 1: rookie we draft, we're gonna give him some reps with

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Speaker 1: the twos in that week, and we're gonna flip flop

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Speaker 1: the other two and see how they do with the

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Speaker 1: threes and the ones back and forth there, and maybe

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00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: we'll sprinkle Allen in with the ones once in a while.

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00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: And then I get the feeling this was all mapped

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00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: out before. It has nothing to do with how they're

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Speaker 1: playing now we're in the last week and a half.

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Speaker 1: What they were gonna they were gonna run this experiment

678
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: and this test and this evaluation process this way. They

679
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Speaker 1: were gonna do it three months ago, whether anybody got

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00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: hurt or got or whatever, whoever the quarterbacks were, so,

681
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Speaker 1: you know, all of us trying to say, you know,

682
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Speaker 1: keep track of Hey, he was five of seven today

683
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: and he threw a pig. And it's meaningless because they're

684
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Speaker 1: gonna make these changes based on a meetings and evaluations

685
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Speaker 1: and a plan they had made three or four or

686
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Speaker 1: month or six weeks before training camp even started. It's

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Speaker 1: Bills and Browns Tonight, preseason game number two for each team.

688
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: The Browns won last week, the Bills lost. What does

689
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: that matter? But there are there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: issues that really do matter, and we're here to talk

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Speaker 1: about them until three o'clock today. Coming up at one

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Speaker 1: o'clock top of the next hour, we'll have Mark Kelsel

693
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Speaker 1: radio color analysts will be joining us to get his

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Speaker 1: take on tonight's game. Coming up around one thirty. Tim Rump,

695
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Speaker 1: NFL Films producer and director of Hard Knocks. He's been

696
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Speaker 1: camped out here with the Cleveland Browns for the last

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Speaker 1: several weeks. We'll talk with him about that. And at

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Speaker 1: two o'clock Chris Brown, Bills insider from Buffalo bills dot

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Speaker 1: Com joins us. We're coming here from Cleveland, the Hilton

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Speaker 1: Cleveland downtown on Lakeside Avenue. Great hotel, very accommodating to us.

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Speaker 1: We're doing the show here until three and Steve and

702
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: I go our separate ways and do our football broadcast. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We'll hop on the bus together head of the stadium

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Speaker 1: Lake bus today. Yeah, So come on back for more.

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Speaker 1: It's one one Bills Live, presented by COLLATDA Health from

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Speaker 1: Cleveland on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to Cleveland, to

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Speaker 1: the Hilton Cleveland Downtown, John Murphy, Seve Tasker. It is

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live presented by COLLATDA Health. We're here until

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Speaker 1: three o'clock. It's an extended pregame show for one of

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Speaker 1: the most highly anticipated preseason games I've ever been around.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy, but it is. Yeah, the weather's gonna be

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Speaker 1: it could be crazy the weather. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 1: I was checking the forecast kick off tonight seven thirty.

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Speaker 1: Temperature is going to be about seventy seven degrees, but

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be cloudy skies and a sixty percent chance

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Speaker 1: of rain showers, maybe even thunder showers. How much would

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Speaker 1: that stink if the game was, you know, not delayed,

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Speaker 1: not even delayed, just that, you know, just like torn

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Speaker 1: up because the rain. Can't do anything because it's raining

720
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Speaker 1: so hard. Can't throw it, can't can't can't evaluate, can't

721
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: nobody can play good, get carried away. We're excited about

722
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Speaker 1: this preseason game. But that would stink. That would really

723
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Speaker 1: if we're here for four hours for a preseason game,

724
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Speaker 1: that would stink. What if we get there and they're

725
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Speaker 1: about it and they delay it because of lightning. That's

726
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Speaker 1: the kind of thing that could happen tonight. Oh yeah,

727
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Speaker 1: that's the only thing that's really basically the only thing

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Speaker 1: they'll stop an NFL game for, Yeah, is lightning. Don't

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Speaker 1: wish for that. I'm not wishing for it. Well, I

730
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Speaker 1: don't know from you what you're looking for talking about.

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Speaker 1: It won't happen if we keep talking about it, if

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Speaker 1: we bring our umbrellas, it wouldn't rain. Steve and I

733
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Speaker 1: talking about what we are looking for. But let's get

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Speaker 1: your opinions. The lines are open eight o three fifty

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Speaker 1: and toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two

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Speaker 1: five fifty. What are you looking for from tonight's game?

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Speaker 1: I mentioned Corey Coleman, the receiver acquired August fifth in

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Speaker 1: the trade with the Cleveland Browns, coming back here to

739
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Speaker 1: play at Cleveland tonight. I'm looking for him to make

740
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Speaker 1: his mark tonight, to show why he deserves a spot

741
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Speaker 1: on this roster. I really am A. J. McCarron talked

742
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Speaker 1: about it down to training camp the other day. McCarron

743
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Speaker 1: was asked about Corey Coleman and what this game could

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Speaker 1: mean for him. And here's what the Buffalo quarterback had

745
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Speaker 1: to say, Yeah, I've known Corey for um some time. UM,

746
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Speaker 1: you know, when my trade part was we thought were

747
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Speaker 1: going through and I was going through, you know, with

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Speaker 1: Cleveland last year and um this all season, we kind

749
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Speaker 1: of stayed in touch and H. So I've known him

750
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Speaker 1: for a while and M you know, I feel like

751
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 1: Corey has done a great job of, you know, always

752
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Speaker 1: asking if he doesn't know and H. He's going to

753
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: continue to grow and play faster and and not have

754
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Speaker 1: to think. UM. But it's just a access for him, right.

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00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna take Tom and as long as

756
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 1: he understands that, it'll be fine. It's like they're trained

757
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: to say that, right. I think that's all from A J. McCarron.

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Speaker 1: What else you looking forward from tonight, Steve? I mentioned

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Speaker 1: I'm looking for a quarterback separation, look at for Corey

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Speaker 1: Coleman to make his mark. I guess I'm looking for,

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Speaker 1: um more of the same when you talked about this

762
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: offensive COHESI, I'm looking for more of the same of

763
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Speaker 1: what we saw last week, changing formations, changing personnel packages,

764
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Speaker 1: doing it effortlessly without penalties and without delays. I'm looking

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Speaker 1: for that to be uh continue as it was last week,

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Speaker 1: and I mean, there's no reason why it wouldn't, but

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00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 1: you never know. In these games, you know, stuff happened.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to see the defense play a little bit dominant.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to see him backups and defense, especially right

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Speaker 1: consistently stop the run. Now that Cleveland Browns didn't um

771
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: didn't run the football well last week against the Giants.

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Speaker 1: I think they had fifty net yards rushing. Uh, they'll

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Speaker 1: want to They'll want to come out and say a

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Speaker 1: tone with their run game. I think I'd like to

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Speaker 1: see the number one defense and the number two defense

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Speaker 1: out and to stop the run. Cleveland's gonna make a

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Speaker 1: concerted effort to try and do that. I'd like to

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Speaker 1: see him get a sack or two. We got. We

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Speaker 1: saw Harrison Phillips get a sack last week. I'd like

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Speaker 1: to see some of the pass rusher to get a sack. Shack.

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Speaker 1: Lawson played well last week on the defensive side. I

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Speaker 1: think I'm I and I tend to do this because

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Speaker 1: because of my background in offense, I want to see

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Speaker 1: some individual performances on defense. I'd like to see some

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Speaker 1: you know, some turnovers, obviously, but also I'd like to

786
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Speaker 1: see some guys rushing the passer and have a day,

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Speaker 1: you know, see what the linebackers are doing. Like mac

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Speaker 1: Matt Milano. I'd like to see him step by if

789
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Speaker 1: he continues to start, along with Tremaine Edmonds and Lorenzo.

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00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: I want to see those guys make some tackles and

791
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: hum that front seven is going to have to play

792
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: well this year. They need to play better than they

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00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: did a year ago. Do not expect to see Trent

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00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: Murphy tonight. The un the unrestricted free agents signed by

795
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Speaker 1: the Bills past spring, has been out for most of

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Speaker 1: the last week and a half now with a groin injury,

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00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: and it's it's unlikely that he's going to play, so

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Speaker 1: don't look for him. I don't think Brandon Riley's gonna

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Speaker 1: play either team. He got pretty serious rib injury last

800
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Speaker 1: week in the game eight days ago now and has

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00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: not practiced much since then. Other than that, I think

802
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: the Bills are pretty healthy. Going in to your point

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Speaker 1: about defense, who are you looking forward defense? Especially in

804
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Speaker 1: front seven? There was a lot to like I thought

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Speaker 1: last week from what third runddraft pick Harrison Phillips showed.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to see more of that. I think he

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Speaker 1: has he has. I mean, nobody's locked in, but he's

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Speaker 1: I think he's pretty steady as the first guy off

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Speaker 1: the bench in that defensive line rotation because of a

810
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: number of things. His versatility. He can back up Lutulae,

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Speaker 1: he can back up Kyle Williams. He started last week

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Speaker 1: for Kyle. Because of his athleticism and because of his energy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's a high energy, big motor guy, and

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Speaker 1: that's the kind of guy you want coming off the

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Speaker 1: bench on the defensive line. I look for more from

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Speaker 1: Harrison Phillips. I look forward to seeing more from him

817
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Speaker 1: because I think he's a really good player. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I continue look at the linebackers as the big question

819
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: mark on the team. You've got Termaine Edmonds, no question

820
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Speaker 1: about it. He's going to be the guy inside. I'd

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Speaker 1: like to see him playing. He had one tackle last week.

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Speaker 1: At some point I want to see him start to

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Speaker 1: own it. I think right now he's making sure everybay's

824
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Speaker 1: lined up. He's kind of reading. He's kind of a

825
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: little mechanical, you know, he's not he's not cut loose

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Speaker 1: and freeway. He's not just running flat to the football

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Speaker 1: and not worrying about what everybody else is doing. I

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Speaker 1: think he's still a little bit, like I say, mechanical

829
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Speaker 1: and scripted and what he's doing. If they're doing this,

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Speaker 1: I'm doing that. If I'm doing this, they're probably going

831
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Speaker 1: to do that. If if they're in this formation, I

832
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Speaker 1: expect this. He's kind of thinking like that instead of saying, man,

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Speaker 1: show me where the ball is. I'm getting it, you know,

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Speaker 1: and before the snap. I think that's where he has

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Speaker 1: to get mentally and other linebackers, you know, I'd like

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Speaker 1: to see some things from ramone Humber, ramone Humber, Keenan Robinson,

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Speaker 1: some of these guys to step up and show that

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Speaker 1: you know they're gonna be a player on this team,

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Speaker 1: maybe pressed for a starting starting job. With Matt Milano,

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00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander, Dion Lacy, You've got a lot of names

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00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 1: over there, and a lot of guys that I think

842
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: in a position to make the roster and contribute defensively.

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Speaker 1: And I want to see those guys in the linebacking

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Speaker 1: corps come through more from the tweet sheet and answer

845
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Speaker 1: to our question what are you looking for in tonight's game?

846
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: From James Kreviovitz. He says, I'm looking for progression throughout

847
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: the roster. Want to see how Josh Allen plays, was

848
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: some better talent around him and take that next step

849
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: towards our starting quarterback. He goes on to say, I

850
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: want to see Marcus Murphy nailed down a roster spot.

851
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,439
Speaker 1: We'd love to see Coleman make some plays and Zay, yeah,

852
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: you've hit a lot of them, Marcus Murphy in particular.

853
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: Who Again, it's a it's competitive the battle for essentially

854
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 1: the third running back on the Buffalo roster, and Marcus

855
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: Murphy has put himself right in the midst of that

856
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: competition with his play and his practice work. He's been

857
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: upstanding in practice, working with Taiwan Jones and Travers Cadet

858
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: the other candidates and to a lesser extent, the rookie

859
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: Keith Ford. And I'm beginning to think that Marcus Murphy

860
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: might make his mark in the return work. Steve. He

861
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: got punt and kick return work last week, and he'll

862
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: get more of it tonight. I believe I think that

863
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: might be his ticket, Marcus Murphy, because if he can

864
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: be look, and Taiwan Jones is a quality return man too, right,

865
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: they would love I'm certain the saber roster spot keep

866
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: one of those two, Taiwan Jones or Marcus Murphy. Knowing

867
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 1: that Marcus Murphy could be a really effective third running

868
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: back and special teamer and a return man. Taiwan Jones

869
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: I don't think provides that kind of a talent to

870
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: be a third running back. He couldn't a pinch. But

871
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: that's a pretty interesting battle to watch, Yeah, and it's

872
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: gonna be I think it's gonna come down to what

873
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 1: they want the third running back to do. If it's

874
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: Marcus Murphy, they would need him to be a return guy.

875
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: If it's Taiwan Jones, they need him to be a

876
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 1: cover guy or a gunner or a kickoff cover guy.

877
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 1: That's gonna be interesting. Marcus Murphy, third year player. He

878
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time on practice squads and he

879
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: kind of landed here in Buffalo. Didn't know about him

880
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: and and he we spoke to him and him on

881
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: the show and he's a mature, serious pro running back

882
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: who knows what kind of opportunity he has here and

883
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: he's trying to maximize. He did last week. I thought

884
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 1: he showed really well and I think you're right when

885
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: it comes down to this, and he's hearing the same

886
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: thing coming out of Cleveland's camp. They want to see

887
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: these guys be consistent and the guys that are like

888
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: that running backs trying to make it at the bottom

889
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: of the roster, of the linebackers that I mentioned a

890
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: moment ago, defensive lineman, all these and off even the

891
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: young offensive lineman. That's the big key. Can they stack

892
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: a good game on top of a good game, a

893
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: good practice on top of a good practice. What are

894
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: you looking for in tonight's game. We'll take a brink

895
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: comeback and talk more about that. Lines open eight o

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Speaker 1: three fifty twenty three one eight five fifty two five fifty.

897
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Speaker 1: If you're on hold, stay there, we'll get to your

898
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Speaker 1: call when we return. One of Goill's Live John Murphy

899
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Speaker 1: and Steam Task. You're coming to your live from Cleveland,

900
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 1: the Hilton Cleveland Downtown Hotel. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

901
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 1: We're coming to you live from Cleveland, Ohio. I like Cleveland.

902
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: See I've spent time here over actually over the last week.

903
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: I thought some time here, but I like it. If

904
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: people were great. The city's big, it's a it's a

905
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: lot like Buffalo, like a bigger Buffalo. There's some there's

906
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: some less than appealing spots, and there's also a lot

907
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: of cool spots in Cleveland. One of our one of

908
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,760
Speaker 1: our kids went to school here over at Case Western.

909
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: We spent some time down here um going to his

910
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: football games, and it was really nice we had. He

911
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: had a really good experience. Loves Cleveland now, but my

912
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 1: son doesn't. Which son U tap? Okay, he went here. Yeah,

913
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: he was here now. He's not living here now, but

914
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: he uh, he loves it. Yeah. I texted a photo

915
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: of the stadium last night and him and his wife

916
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, all right, that's our town. Yeah. So

917
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: it was good. Yeah, we've had great experiences down here

918
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: in Cleveland. Yeah, sake some calls we talk about tonight's game.

919
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: Mark calling from Orlando, Florida. Hello, Mark, welcome to the show. Hey,

920
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: thanks very much, appreciate time for us. H Steve. I

921
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: wanted you to solve the mystery for me. I've been

922
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 1: a Bills fan for over fifty years, so I follow

923
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: the team very closely. I've also been down here in

924
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: Florida for thirty years. Big Florida States End. And the

925
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,439
Speaker 1: question I have for you is this two years ago,

926
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: nickel Leary won the national championship with the Florida State

927
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 1: won the Mackey Award. Was drafted by the Bills in

928
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: the sixth round and he had very I mean, he's

929
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: had some time on the field obviously, but now I'm

930
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 1: reading the depress the past few days, he started to

931
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: drop on the depth chart, and Steve, I think this

932
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: guy is probably one of the top tight ends of

933
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: the team, if not the top tight end of the

934
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: team over Clay. He may not have the wheels the

935
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: Clay adds, but I think he's strong, he's smart, and

936
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: he's a clutch performer. I've seen that for years. What

937
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 1: I didn't understand is why this guy is now potentially

938
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: dropping And of course I've heard the you know the verbage. Well,

939
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: he's not a McDermot guy, he's not a being guy.

940
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: You know that talent they're going to keep telling on

941
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: that team. And Dermot's smart being as smart and he's

942
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: a talented guy. In my opinion, what I'd like to do, Steves,

943
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: have you kind of talk about this a little bit

944
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: and tell me why nicole Leary is now falling on

945
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: the chart and why he wasn't utilized under Morone last

946
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: year under McDermott, and uh, now you're to be this year.

947
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 1: Thank you. Well, it's it's a great question, and it's

948
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: and it's it's not an easy answer, but the simple

949
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: fact is Logan Thomas, Jason crum and Carrie League Keith

950
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: Trowbridge have emerged as being really good players as well.

951
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: There's not it's not a knock against Nicole Leary, but

952
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 1: you got other guys that are playing really well, and

953
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: they're faster, uh and and they stretch the field better

954
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: at the tight end spot. I think Nicole Leary does

955
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: some things better than those guys, no question. Like I

956
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: think he's a good blocker down inside. I think he

957
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: gets separation in the passing game. I think his athleticism

958
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 1: uh puts him behind Crum, Lee and Thomas. Uh. But

959
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: and I think one of the reasons he has been

960
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: on this team is because he is a clutch player.

961
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no question, and he shows up. The

962
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: game's never too big for him. He's played at Florida State,

963
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: like he said, he played in front of some big crowds,

964
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: played in some important games, no question about it. But

965
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 1: I think the thing about it is other guys have

966
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: started to emerge and develop into really good players. Logan

967
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: Thomas is a freakish athlete and they've been waiting on

968
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: him for a few years to emerge and become a

969
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: tight end with some skills that would help him get

970
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: on the field, and he started to do that. The

971
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: time that has taken for him to do it has

972
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: now come to an end. He's there. So he is

973
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 1: a six six, two hundred and fifty pound guy who's

974
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: learning how to block down inside and doing some of

975
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 1: the nitty gritty hard work that Nicole Leary has done.

976
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: So it's just a question not that Nicole Leary has regressed.

977
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: I think other players have gotten to his level and

978
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: they're starting to look at him. He didn't ask for

979
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: my opinion, but I have one. A couple of things.

980
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: I disagree. Charles Clay is far and away the best

981
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: tight end of the roster, but we wanted to We

982
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: need hammer that. The biggest thing that's happened to Nicoleary,

983
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: in my opinion, is a new offense. There's a brand

984
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 1: new offense here with a new set of requirements for

985
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: the tight end, and I think my sense is Brian

986
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: Dable knows what he wants, and he may want different

987
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: skill sets from his stable of tight ends, three of

988
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: them probably. And you know, if he wants a good blocker,

989
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: a great blocker, he's got Kyi Lee. If he wants

990
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: a great athlete, he can go to Logan Thomas or

991
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: to Jason Krume Clay at the top of the heap there.

992
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: But that's the biggest thing I think that's happened in Nicoleary.

993
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: And yeah, the other guys are getting better, you know,

994
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 1: crum is developed. Second, your player getting a little bit better.

995
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: And I will say this too, and maybe this will

996
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 1: make you feel better. Caller from Orlando. I think that's

997
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: been overstated a little bit. The danger that Nicoleary not

998
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: making this roster. I don't know how that's gonna play out.

999
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: You know, the other guys are getting playing time, and

1000
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: ay're gonna get more playing time. They're gonna get playing

1001
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: time tonight. But I don't I'm not ready to pronounce Nicoleary,

1002
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: you know, dead man walking on this roster. I'm really not.

1003
00:46:58,120 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: And I don't think the coaching staff is yet either.

1004
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: I know some of it. I think that's been overstated

1005
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: in the media. Some of it is just the same

1006
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: thing they're doing with the quarterbacks. They want to look

1007
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: at these other guys and get and see what they're doing.

1008
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: And they probably they know really well what Nicole Leary

1009
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: can do. And there's nothing that says they don't like him.

1010
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: They may like him very much, but they need to

1011
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: find out if somebody else, uh can you know, earn

1012
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: their affection just as much as Nicole Leary has. So

1013
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: we'll see it. And that's a great point you make, Murph.

1014
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: It is a new offense and it's gonna look different,

1015
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: and Brian Dable wants maybe he wants different stuff from

1016
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: that position, and they they like other guys better for

1017
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: that reason, or at least uh Brian Dable does. We

1018
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 1: don't know that that's true. That's just we're saying that's

1019
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: a possibility. So all that stuff is true. And the

1020
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: fact that other guys are developing getting better, uh doesn't

1021
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: say anything bad about Nicole Leary. But he's in a

1022
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: spot where they'd running a new offense and um and

1023
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: other guys are starting to develop and they want to

1024
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: look at him. It could be as simple as that.

1025
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,439
Speaker 1: All right, a break, and when we were we're gonna

1026
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: talk more about tonight's game. What are you looking for

1027
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: in tonight's game? What's Steve looking for when I'm looking for?

1028
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: And what is Mark Kelsel looking for? The color analyst

1029
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 1: on the Bills Radio Network standing by to join us

1030
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: live here in Cleveland, So come on back for that.

1031
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 1: We got a lot more to come One Bills Live

1032
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: from Cleveland on Buffalo Bills Radio Bills Radio Networks Stories Update.

1033
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: The update comes from Cleveland, where the Bills are. They

1034
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: will play the Browns in preseason game number two tonight

1035
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: at seven thirty. The Bills quarterback rotation not yet known.

1036
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 1: It appears that A. J. McCarran might be the starter

1037
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 1: based on the practice reps this past week, but we'll

1038
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: find out tonight. Bills with a number of questions to

1039
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,240
Speaker 1: begin to answer. His preseason rolls, along as the Cleveland

1040
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Speaker 1: Browns have as almost as many, if not more, seven

1041
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 1: thirty kickoff tonight First Energy Stadium here in Cleveland. You

1042
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: can catch the broadcast here on our radio flagship WGR

1043
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: Sports Radio five fifty with pregame coverage countdown to kickoffs

1044
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: starting at four pm and then at seven thirty. Myself,

1045
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: Mark Kelso and Salcopacho will be on the sidelines for

1046
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: the Bills in the browns second preseason game. Free agent

1047
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: wide receiver Dez Bryant was in Cleveland yesterday visiting the Browns.

1048
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: He stopped by the team's radio station. After that, Dez

1049
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: Bryan said they're going to continue to talk and they

1050
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 1: may know more later today. Bryan said that he likes Cleveland,

1051
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: thinks he'd be good in the Orange. He warback at

1052
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State, wearing it now with Cleveland and said we're

1053
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: trying to work some things out as far as a contract.

1054
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: Dez Bryant may wind up with the Cleveland Browns. Patriots

1055
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: top draft choice Isaiah Win toward his left achilles in

1056
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,439
Speaker 1: last night's preseason game against the Eagles. He will miss

1057
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: the entire season. According to ESPN. He's an offensive lineman

1058
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 1: out of Georgia. He'd been working as the Patriot's backup

1059
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: left tackle. The injury recurred in the first quarter of

1060
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: last night's game when Win was a pass blocking and

1061
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: he is out for the rest of the year. Isaiah

1062
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: Win John Elway, Jennifer, Broncos general manager, says as the

1063
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: Broncos trying to decide what they're going to do to

1064
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: get a backup quarterback, Colin Kaepernick will not be a consideration.

1065
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: The Broncos demoted Paxton Lynch to number three. They're working

1066
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: second year quarterback Chad Kelly as their number two UM.

1067
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: And Elway, the team's president of football operations, has not

1068
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: ruled out signing a veteran to be case Keenom's back up,

1069
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: and he said Colin Kaepernick would not be a viable option.

1070
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: And that's the sports update from the Buffalo Bills Headquarters

1071
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: Hotel in Cleveland, oh Er time. Welcome back. We're back

1072
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: at Cleveland, back at the Cleveland Towntown Hilton Hotel. John

1073
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: Murphy and Steve Tasker joined by my broadcast partner on

1074
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: the Bills games on the radio site. Happy to have

1075
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: former Bill safety Markelso here with this. Hello, Mark, thank

1076
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 1: you's coming by. Hey you always good to be here.

1077
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: You have a big weekend in Ohio coming up right.

1078
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 1: You're here as far also of your other job with

1079
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: the your racing team. Tell us about that. Well, we're

1080
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 1: racing in Bristol this week. But we have a we

1081
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,479
Speaker 1: have a concert that we sponsor, Jake Owen Concert there's

1082
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: just south of Cleveland here tomorrow night. So I'll be

1083
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: attending that as well, and bringing some of my son

1084
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: and his friends. Where's the venue. It's the Cayuga County Fairgrounds,

1085
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: That's what it is. Yeah grounds that time of year. Yes, Yeah,

1086
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: fairs going on in Buffalo correct, Erie County Farm. Steve's

1087
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 1: got his reservation for Sunday. I'm bride, Joe. I gotta

1088
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,720
Speaker 1: get that all of it. It's happening without me. County

1089
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: fairs are fantastic, particularly the Erie County Fairs. I am,

1090
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: I am, I am all about the Erie County Fair.

1091
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite things about the summer, and

1092
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: I have not been able to make it. I'm so bummed.

1093
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: You'll get there. It's happening without me, both of you.

1094
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: It'll go on without you. But well, yeah, much like

1095
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 1: the NFL, right, exactly right. Speaking of the NFL, both

1096
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: of you has spent some time as you played for

1097
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bill's playing against the Cleveland Browns. There were

1098
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: playoff games, there were important games, there were some not

1099
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: important games. I want to get from each of you

1100
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: and Mark Kelsel. Let's start with you. What's your most

1101
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,760
Speaker 1: memorable game as a player Bills versus Browns here in Cleveland.

1102
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: What do you recall well, I'll give you a memorable game,

1103
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 1: but the most memorable experience is that first time walking

1104
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: into that locker room, the visitor's locker room, which was

1105
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: about the size of a shoe box, and Daryl Talley

1106
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 1: had a closet bigger than our long way. You didn't

1107
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: have any place to put your clothes like when I

1108
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 1: was when I was a young player, I mean I

1109
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: was in the shower. I mean seniority. I mean you

1110
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 1: had to go in the shower and change. Yeah, you

1111
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: had to put your clothes in there, and then just

1112
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: had to make sure you got him out before everybody

1113
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: shared post game. But it was a lot of fun

1114
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 1: and and the thing that I liked about the field,

1115
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: it was just it was so compact, and the fans

1116
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: were right there, and you're in the end zone, you're

1117
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: warming up and you have dog bones hitting you in

1118
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: the back and and the guys were just excited about

1119
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: their team. A lot of passionate about the Cleveland Browns

1120
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 1: here in Cleveland. And I think, certainly, I know we

1121
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: have we have different memories, and I can remember a

1122
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: lot of those games and playoff games come to mind,

1123
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: but I think early in my career actually not because

1124
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 1: I had. I had a touchdown, I think one of

1125
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: my only three in my NFL career. But I picked

1126
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: up a fumble and ran down the Bill's sideline and

1127
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: I think for a touchdown. But late in that game,

1128
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: there was a big melee over on the Brown sideline.

1129
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 1: I remember Derek Bowls being involved in that, and we

1130
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: were all over there. Nothing much really happened, a lot

1131
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: of pushing and shoving and and I don't recall too

1132
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: many haymakers being thrown or any of that nature. But

1133
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 1: but coach Schottenheimer was right in the middle of it

1134
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,720
Speaker 1: as well. And it was again I don't think anybody

1135
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: got ejected from the game or anything, but trying to

1136
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: protect you your teammates and your players, and that that

1137
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 1: comes to mind. But just playing in that facility with

1138
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: the fans being so exuberant and so accessible to the field.

1139
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 1: You remember they handed that. Yeah, I do remember that game.

1140
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: I seemed like and I have pictures of it. I

1141
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: was standing, I was close to it. I ended up

1142
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,479
Speaker 1: somehow it was like a special teams player or something.

1143
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: It was a third player. You were coming on the field.

1144
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 1: Maybe I would have had to come all the way

1145
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: across the field to get there though unless we Yeah,

1146
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: we had this this that was on the on the

1147
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 1: Brown sideline, and it ended up that we there was

1148
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: a big pile up and Derek Burrows was under the pot.

1149
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 1: We didn't know because we couldn't see him, and he

1150
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: was getting abused down there. He was getting torn up, right,

1151
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 1: so he and he finally comes out of his helmets

1152
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,879
Speaker 1: all off and everything. He was he was mad, right,

1153
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: And the next day I remember Freddie smirtless and we

1154
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: had a team players meeting the next day and Freddie

1155
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: got up and really apologized to drays I. He goes,

1156
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: I swear if I would have known you, I would

1157
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 1: have come. I promise you. I'm so sorry, you know

1158
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: because that you know, that's a big point of pride

1159
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 1: for a lot of players. If you get a guy

1160
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: getting getting worked over, you're coming over there to help.

1161
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: And nobody knew it because he couldn't see it. He

1162
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: was totally covered by Brown's players. Did you guys have

1163
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: a lot of brawls back then? Oh? No, I mean no,

1164
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Practice yeah, I recall, but but

1165
00:54:56,040 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 1: the but the playoff game is is yeah that I

1166
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: remember is the playoff game in eighty nine and people,

1167
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: you know, old timers like me remember it as the

1168
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: Ronnie Harmon game, uh where we dropped it. And then

1169
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: also that's the game that Don Beeby got dropped on

1170
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: his head from getting up ended. It's uh, it's the

1171
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: game where uh the no huddle was invented. You know,

1172
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 1: when they started going fast, Um, the K gun was

1173
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: already in place because we were still going we were

1174
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 1: going three wides with the tight with mckeller and uh,

1175
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: but then we started going no huddle in that game,

1176
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: and that that was really one of the most I

1177
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 1: don't know what you remember it like, but yeah, you're

1178
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: playing against Bernie and and uh Wester Slaughter and those guys,

1179
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: and they question and it was it was a really

1180
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 1: fun game. I know it was a high scoring game,

1181
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: so it wasn't your most favorite. But man, well truth

1182
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: truth be told. I mean, Ronnie, a lot of people

1183
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: blame him for for not making that catch. That was

1184
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: a really hard catch and he had great hands. Oh yeah,

1185
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 1: so if if anybody's gonna make it, he has he

1186
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: got most guys. Most guys aren't even gonna get close

1187
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: to that deflected off his hands in the back of

1188
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: the end zone, and yeah, really unfortunate. I thought he

1189
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:05,439
Speaker 1: really he thought he was going to run out of room.

1190
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: He thought that he was he was coming down out

1191
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: of bounds, and he just he got distracted, you know,

1192
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: because he thought it wasn't gonna be well and fuel

1193
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: for for future things to come, right, Yeah, kind of.

1194
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: I can't remember that fight here Cleveland, but I get

1195
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: that confused. Wasn't there some kind of a brawl in

1196
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: a game against the Jets? Not that I recalled? Oh

1197
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: I remember, every guy, Let me set the stage, let

1198
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:28,959
Speaker 1: me know, let me set, let me tell you. Okay,

1199
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: all right, go ahead, I'll let you away. You can

1200
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: put your spin always with the Jet. Wait, it's not

1201
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 1: a spin, it's kind of a spin. So you have

1202
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 1: a guilty conscience. Enough. I don't have any guilty conscience.

1203
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 1: You guys want to talk about it. I don't even

1204
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: want to talk about it. So there was a little,

1205
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,800
Speaker 1: a little melee on the sideline, not much. There's not

1206
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: play cover three, so I mean, obviously you're back there

1207
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: twenty two yards. I mean that's where you play. When

1208
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: you're in cover three. You gotta be that deep. But

1209
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: once the melee starts, I always starts you don't go

1210
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: to thirty five went to the sideline. Look, I went

1211
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 1: to the sideline and and there was there was a

1212
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 1: confrontation with Bruce and some other things. So and I

1213
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: was when I got over there, things the officials had

1214
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: started breaking things up. So I'm like, well, if I

1215
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: step in there, and it's just kind of stupid because

1216
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 1: they're starting to break things up already. So I didn't

1217
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: step in. So yeah, so everybody on the defensive unit

1218
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: accept me gets fine. Everybody got fine except me. So

1219
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: I said to Bruce, I said, first of all, nothing happened,

1220
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: and and and I talked to him about it, and

1221
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: I said, look, I will give the same amount of

1222
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 1: money that everybody was fine to your favorite charity. He

1223
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: gave me his favorite charity. I wrote a check. We

1224
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: were all good, okay, But he did have some amends

1225
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 1: to make because you're you know you you're obligated no

1226
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: matter what. No, no, nothing happened to him. I mean,

1227
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: it was just it was it was like a training kids.

1228
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,959
Speaker 1: It was pushing. But but at that time the league

1229
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: was looking at and they go they sent it to

1230
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: New York and they're saying, okay, well they whoever was

1231
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: in the frame. Everyone wasn't in the frame. I was

1232
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: running up that way, but I wasn't in the frame

1233
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: because I started because your foot speed was one and

1234
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: I want to should have been but you you go

1235
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: and you're walking backwards away from me. I'm just really,

1236
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: I'm a spectator here. I'm not. I have no I

1237
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: remember though that it was. It was. It was kind

1238
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: of comical. It's like, oh yeah, we all except Kelso

1239
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: and they were like looking at you, like giving you

1240
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: the stink guy, like hey, back in. You got to

1241
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: come in deep. You gotta jump in with your guys, right,

1242
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 1: and they thank you. You're welcome. Mark Kelso was here

1243
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: Color Radio man on the Bills broadcast. We've been asking

1244
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: folks in the audience Eve when I've been talking about it, Mark,

1245
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: we'll ask you, what are you looking to see tonight?

1246
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: What's at the top of your list of the most

1247
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: interesting things about the night's preseason game. Well, I think

1248
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: there's some things that I want to see continue, and

1249
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: I think there's some things that i'd like to see

1250
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: change a little bit. Uh Like defensively, they Carolina was

1251
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: five or ten on third down and they gave up

1252
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: some yards in the passing game primarily from from number

1253
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: twos and and uh some of those guys that are

1254
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: down the depth chart. So and it appeared to me

1255
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: that that occasionally, uh, some of the corners in certain situations.

1256
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: So when you when you're going to cover somebody, when

1257
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: you need to really focus your eyes on that near

1258
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: hip of that receiver and you need to drive to

1259
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: that near hip, and sometimes if you're coming out of

1260
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: your break and you just peek a little bit at

1261
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: the quarterback, it's going to hesitate you a step a

1262
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: step and a half and you're not going to be

1263
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: able to make that play. It seemed that that situation

1264
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: occurred a little bit last week. It'll be interesting to

1265
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 1: see what happens there. And I want to see how

1266
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: that how that nickel cornerback position continues to define itself,

1267
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: to see if Tarren Johnson is the person that that

1268
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: may get that start, or Philip Gaines or one of

1269
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: those guys, depending on again, that's going to really depend

1270
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 1: on what type of schematic things they're able to do defensively,

1271
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: whether they can play more man in certain situations, or

1272
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 1: they need they're gonna need to stick with sometime type

1273
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: of zone principles on the offensive side of the ball.

1274
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: But there were a lot of good things. I mean,

1275
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: the third nine was fantastic. The pace of the game

1276
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: was beautiful, the mix and the pre snap movement, and

1277
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: Steve and I were talking about it afterwards and in

1278
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: what New England we've talked about this before. They they

1279
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: all this motion and movement and you take the running back,

1280
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: you empty the backfield so that you identify whether it's

1281
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: going to be a man or zone, because if the

1282
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: linebacker goes with them, probably man coverage. So that gives

1283
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: those quarterbacks are just a step a half a step

1284
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 1: on the defensive unit to be able to predetermine where

1285
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: they might throw it, and then if it's open, they

1286
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: throw it. If it's not, they might pull back and

1287
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: make another decision. But really, some really good things on

1288
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the boat. So let's see those

1289
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 1: things continue. I think one of the things too that

1290
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 1: I was looking at it and McDermott said last week

1291
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: they're going to have a game plan, but it's very

1292
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 1: thin and like you've noticed that they were sending the

1293
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 1: back out on the backside with a lot of options

1294
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: stuff on the back side. I'd like to see Are

1295
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: they gonna, like emphasize something in this game because it's Cleveland.

1296
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,439
Speaker 1: Are they gonna it's Cleveland, gonna show Greg Williams's playing

1297
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: a lot of man. Are they gonna do some to

1298
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: show some things that they're gonna have in their in

1299
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 1: their toolbox that they're gonna master tonight? I mean, is

1300
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: there gonna be something different tonight from this offense? Well

1301
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: in this team. This team only gave up ninety seven

1302
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: nine eight yards on the ground per game last year,

1303
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 1: and they look to be poised to be even better

1304
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: this year because they can play some more man coverage

1305
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: with the acquisitions they had in the offseason. Now they

1306
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 1: take Jabrill Peppers and they're going to move him to

1307
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: his best position, which is strong safety. Last year he's

1308
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: playing free safety, which is a little bit out of

1309
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: his element, and again better in the box, and then

1310
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 1: he would be in the back half and and really

1311
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: good players. So it'll be interesting to see. Are they

1312
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: just gonna line up a couple of times and say,

1313
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 1: let's see if we can run the ball against a

1314
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: team that was I think number seven in the NFL

1315
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 1: last year and defending the run, and that will be

1316
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 1: interesting to see Another package from the New England Patriots, which,

1317
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 1: of course Brian Dable was there for a number of

1318
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: years and certainly knows those packages and will bring some

1319
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: of that. That offensive scheme to the Bills is the

1320
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 1: screen game, and the screen game, particularly in the red area.

1321
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: It will be interesting to see if if they start

1322
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: to begin to execute that and if that becomes part

1323
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 1: of the their season game plan as the regular season unfolds.

1324
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 1: With Mark Kelso, who have the color commentary on the

1325
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 1: radio side tonight, the Bills and the Cleveland Browns here

1326
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 1: in Cleveland, Dummer. If you Steve Tasker with Mark, what

1327
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:09,439
Speaker 1: about personnel? I mean, who are you most interested in seeing?

1328
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 1: Is they we're gonna We're two weeks from Sunday, is

1329
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: the NFL cutdown day September one? If anybody you're in

1330
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 1: particular interested in watching, Well, there's a there's a I mean,

1331
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 1: there's so many guys, really, I mean, the offensive line

1332
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 1: has a collection of guys that that I think they've

1333
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: probably defined which guys they feel might might end up

1334
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 1: with a starting role. But as far as who's going

1335
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 1: to be a second and third guy, and you need

1336
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: some guys with versatility because I mean, how many you're

1337
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: gonna keep. You're gonna keep eight, or you're gonna keep nine.

1338
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 1: And if you do, then you better keep some guys

1339
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 1: that can play inside and then play outside if if

1340
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 1: the need arrived. The only way, the only way they're

1341
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 1: gonna keep nine, I think is if the guy's a

1342
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: special team's rock, and because it's going to be plenty,

1343
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 1: you have one guy that specialized as a center maybe

1344
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: and then you got a guard tackle and a tackle guard. Um,

1345
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: maybe one of them is a center guard or that

1346
01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 1: kind of thing. It'll be a mix of But I

1347
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: think if they keep nine, that guy's going to be

1348
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 1: playing very little offense. Oh yeah, I would agree with that.

1349
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 1: Are you the only guy in Bill's nation who's not

1350
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 1: interested in who the quarterback might be? Yeah? Well they

1351
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 1: haven't even mentioned it yet. No, But that I mean,

1352
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 1: that's that's the that's the elephant in the room. I mean,

1353
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,439
Speaker 1: that's the question on the table when I and unfortunately

1354
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 1: and fortunately I guess in both cases is that I

1355
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 1: don't think any quarterback to find themselves last week. But

1356
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 1: all played well and they made some good plays. They

1357
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: they they had they had some good pre snap read

1358
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 1: executions where they were able to deliver the football. They

1359
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: made some really good throws. I mean, some of the

1360
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 1: early throws by Nathan Peterman were a little bit less

1361
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 1: difficult because he's throwing hitch routes to Calvin Benjamin because

1362
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: they were playing off early in the game Carolina was.

1363
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: But but then the two throws he made, even the

1364
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 1: penalty the street and then the touchdown to Calvin Benjamin,

1365
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: both of those throws were beautiful faith throws, put right

1366
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 1: where they needed to be with really tight coverage. And

1367
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 1: and then you know a J McCarron. I thought there

1368
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 1: were three really good plays that he made that demonstrated

1369
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 1: great maturity. I'd just explain one of them. But when

1370
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 1: when they ran, so they had Brandon Riley on the

1371
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 1: left side, and he motions across the formation, so now

1372
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 1: he's in the slot position. Then they go play action

1373
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 1: pass and mccaren starts to roll out to his right

1374
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 1: a little bit, and here comes Brandon Riley all the

1375
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 1: way across the side. And he knew that he was

1376
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 1: opened when he was between the hashes, but he waited

1377
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 1: till he got outside the numbers, and then he floated

1378
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 1: a really catchable ball so he could just run down

1379
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: the field. I mean, that show demonstrated some real maturity.

1380
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 1: And and then then Josh Allen i Maine, he demonstrates

1381
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 1: the big arm, although they weren't complete, but he did

1382
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 1: demonstrate the arm. And and then then he threads the

1383
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:37,479
Speaker 1: needle on the touchdown to McLeod who makes a really

1384
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 1: good diving catch. That was a really sharp throw by him,

1385
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 1: and a and a great reception by Ray lud buzzword

1386
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 1: today about the quarterbacks his separation, I mean, and I've

1387
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 1: used to saying you can flip a coin between aj

1388
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: and Peterman and say they're the most dependable. They're gonna

1389
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna play kind of the same with one or

1390
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 1: the other. But we're looking for, you know, the best guy, right,

1391
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 1: I mean, so let's go with this scenario. If they

1392
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 1: all continued to play play well in the preseason, who

1393
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:05,959
Speaker 1: do you slate as the starter on opening day in Baltimore? Yeah?

1394
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 1: Who do you? I mean, if they if they don't

1395
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 1: define themselves, if it is not real, definitive, which one

1396
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 1: is the best of the three? There you go with? Yeah,

1397
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 1: to me, do you want to roll the dice? Then

1398
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,439
Speaker 1: I'd go with Josh Allen want to roll the dice

1399
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 1: and take a chance on a rookie who will have

1400
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 1: some you know, development still, but also can provide some

1401
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: big plays and potential to open up your offense with

1402
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 1: his strong arm. If you want to do that, it's

1403
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. But again, if they don't separate themselves, I

1404
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 1: know what I know about coaches in general, they'll probably

1405
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 1: play it more conservatively. Well I think so, because with

1406
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, you know you're gonna do this. You're gonna

1407
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna look like a football game, but it's

1408
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 1: gonna act like a lot, like a roller coaster. There's

1409
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 1: gonna make some big highs and some big lows. And

1410
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 1: this is a team that proved it more than any

1411
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 1: other team I've ever seen a year ago. If you

1412
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 1: don't if you stay away from the lows, if you

1413
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 1: stay away from turnovers, and you play a steady game

1414
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 1: with some solid people and do some and don't make

1415
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 1: mistakes other places, defense, play good defense, and run the ball,

1416
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 1: this is a team that's it's gonna win its share

1417
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 1: football game. So I don't think you go with a

1418
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,439
Speaker 1: guy like Josh Allen, even though the top end is there.

1419
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 1: If you can cut out the bad plays, you have

1420
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 1: a better chance to win consistently every week to week

1421
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 1: And that screams Aj McCarron or Nathan Peterman. Well, and

1422
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 1: what it comes down to for me is this is

1423
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 1: that who can throw to a tight window between zero

1424
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 1: and ten yards down field because they're gonna they're gonna

1425
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 1: execute a lot of what we've seen New England execute

1426
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: over the years. They're gonna be bringing backs oude of

1427
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 1: the backfield, and it's going to be a short, controlled

1428
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 1: passing game that it effect acts like a running game.

1429
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 1: And you have got to be able to throw the

1430
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 1: tight windows in that situation, and you've got to make

1431
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 1: quick decisions. So whatever quarterback in that we may not

1432
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 1: even see all those things here in the preseason games,

1433
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 1: but certainly they would have demonstrated those that ability in

1434
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 1: the practices and all the evaluation opportunities that the coaching

1435
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 1: staff have. But I and again I'm going to err

1436
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 1: on the side of caution actually and say, if if

1437
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 1: if AJ McCarron continues to play well, then I'm saying

1438
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 1: he's got the most experience. He's the guy that I

1439
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 1: think would be least affected by the pressure of the

1440
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 1: situation and you go into Baltimore, those guys are going

1441
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 1: to be running around in the secondary. They'll be they'll

1442
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 1: be trying to confuse the heck out of you, and

1443
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 1: they might very well confuse you and come up with

1444
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 1: a big place. So you put somebody in there who's

1445
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 1: got a little bit more experience. But but I mean,

1446
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 1: when you when you sit back and just objectively look

1447
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 1: at it, all three of those those young men and

1448
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 1: McCarron being the oldest one but still only in his

1449
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 1: fifth year, all three of them have have really carried

1450
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 1: themselves well and led this offense pretty well here during

1451
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 1: the preseason. Good does Josh Allen have to play to

1452
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 1: be named the starter? Ken, I'm I'm I'm not sure.

1453
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 1: It's all about that. I mean, it's all about his

1454
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 1: maturity process and what and things that we don't see

1455
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 1: on game day is what's going on with the read

1456
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 1: and the calls at the line of scrimmage and is

1457
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 1: he making the right checks Because there's gonna be times

1458
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 1: when I think they're going to allow him to get

1459
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 1: the offense out of a play that they might not

1460
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 1: think would be a success. You gotta be going audibleize it.

1461
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 1: And is he making the right audible. Is he making

1462
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 1: those right decisions? So all those little things that happened

1463
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 1: on a day to day basis, it takes a little

1464
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:08,919
Speaker 1: It's gonna take him a little bit of time, there's

1465
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 1: no question about that. Seems to be on the right track,

1466
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 1: but seems like it would take him more than the

1467
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,560
Speaker 1: next three weeks. He's got to get there too, be

1468
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:18,600
Speaker 1: to that level. If you're gonna play a quarterback in

1469
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 1: the NFL, you're gonna have to change plays and make

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Speaker 1: checks at the line of Scrimmagere's absolutely no question about it.

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Speaker 1: And he's got to do it, and he's got to

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Speaker 1: do it well, and then and then after then finally,

1473
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 1: when the ball is snapped, you got to play and

1474
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 1: throw it to the right guy and make the right

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01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 1: decision and read the right defense. So I don't know

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01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 1: that there is anyway I can see that happening, even

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01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 1: given what we saw in the last week's game. You know,

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01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 1: he's he looked. You don't think there's any way you

1479
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 1: can see Josh starting. I don't think he's gonna be

1480
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 1: able to play that well. Okay, I don't think he's

1481
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 1: gonna be able to play as well as Peterman and

1482
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 1: McCarron do right now. Now, he's gonna get better quick,

1483
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:54,600
Speaker 1: and there's gonna be a point where it's gonna be

1484
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 1: the gray area where his athleticsism and his talent physically

1485
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 1: will be so will carry him past the steadiness of

1486
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:07,719
Speaker 1: the other two guys and his all the other stuff

1487
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 1: we're talking about. His decision making and his ability to

1488
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 1: make checks from on the offense gets good enough to say, Okay,

1489
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 1: we think we can win with him. We're with Markelso

1490
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 1: color analysts on the Bills Radio Network, Steve and I

1491
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 1: am taking a few phone calls. Rick on the line

1492
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 1: and Cheek Dowaga. Hello, Rick ahead, you're on the ear. Hi, guys,

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Speaker 1: I want to definative answer as much as you can.

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01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 1: Will Josh Aleen start before week six? Before week six? Yeah,

1495
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 1: I don't know. You guys have thoughts on that. Yeah,

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01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. I tell me how weeks one through

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01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 1: five A're gonna go. Well, It's it's hard to be

1498
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 1: definitive because if things go well week one through five, year,

1499
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 1: I don't think you're going to disrupt the whole system

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01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 1: and you're not just going to plug him in because

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01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 1: you feel like week six is he's reached the level

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01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: of maturity because he's had some experience and he's been

1503
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 1: able to practice and be in f film room and

1504
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 1: kind of soak up the knowledge from some of those

1505
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 1: veteran players and AJ McCarron being the one who has

1506
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:06,560
Speaker 1: the breath of experience at the quarterback position. But I

1507
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 1: think it's I mean, I certainly wouldn't I wouldn't be

1508
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:14,600
Speaker 1: wagering a lot of money to say yes he is

1509
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 1: or he is not going to be starting by week six.

1510
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 1: But every indication points to the fact that the Bills

1511
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 1: made a good decision where they drafted him, and he's

1512
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 1: got the ability and with the right coaching and the

1513
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 1: right maturity and the right mentors in the room as well,

1514
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 1: which which AJ McCarron and Nathan Peterman. Even though Peterman

1515
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 1: doesn't have a lot of experience, he has a breath

1516
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 1: of maturity about him that they kind of belize his

1517
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 1: age and those guys and their work together which will

1518
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 1: make that quarterback position is at play as well as

1519
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 1: it possibly can. And you talk about a guy like

1520
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 1: Josh Allen starting in a week six, So there's so

1521
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 1: much you don't know, because if you exaggerate to make

1522
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 1: the point. What happens if they're oz and five and

1523
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 1: yet the quarterbacks throwing for three hundred and fifty yards

1524
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 1: and three touchdowns in a and no picks? You know,

1525
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 1: I mean, your quarterback's not playing bad, but you are

1526
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 1: in a hole. Do you make the change just to

1527
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 1: make the change and throw away the rest of the

1528
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 1: season with you when you got guys like Kyle Williams

1529
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 1: and Lorenzo Alexander sitting there wanting to win? Or is

1530
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,600
Speaker 1: it the opposite? Are you five and Ozero and the

1531
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 1: quarterbacks thrown for sixty two yards a game and two turnovers?

1532
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 1: You know, you know, both scenarios give you an idea

1533
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 1: of what you're looking at in the gray area of

1534
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 1: what you're trying to decide about week six here in

1535
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 1: the second week of the preseason. And as objective as

1536
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:33,600
Speaker 1: you want to be, there's some subjectivity that's going to

1537
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 1: come into it. And you've got in your gut, you know,

1538
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a time when those coaches and Coach

1539
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 1: day Bold and h and Coach McDermott and those guys

1540
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 1: in the offensive staff, they're all gonna say, you know

1541
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 1: what they're gonna say he's ready. I think he's ready.

1542
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 1: It's time to put him in and then and then

1543
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 1: that might be in week six, and it might not

1544
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:51,640
Speaker 1: be the entire year. It might not be till next

1545
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 1: address this. There might be in week one. It's a

1546
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 1: dressed this stone when he gets the point where he's ready.

1547
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 1: But I don't know if the team is that kind

1548
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 1: of thing I'm talking about. Is he he's ready, but

1549
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's time yet? Do we? You

1550
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 1: know it does a team having a faith that he's

1551
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:10,480
Speaker 1: the right guy, or does one of the other quarterbacks

1552
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,839
Speaker 1: emerge as being the guy that is a pleasant surprise?

1553
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 1: Would they get pushed back from the Is there a

1554
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 1: scenario you can think of which I guess there is

1555
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 1: where the team gives him a little pushback about it's

1556
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 1: not the right time to make this decision, whether he's

1557
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 1: ready or not. Yeah, I mean, I think it comes

1558
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 1: from the coaching staff. I think they made the investment

1559
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 1: in him, and it's a healthy investment for sure, And

1560
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 1: and I think when they feel he's ready, they feel

1561
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 1: he's ready. I would be when the word shocked is

1562
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 1: not the word I kind of want to use, but

1563
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:45,640
Speaker 1: I just used it so I would be mildly surprised

1564
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 1: if in fact they did not. I mean, I mean

1565
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 1: there's I don't think it's going to be an ownership decision.

1566
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be a management decision.

1567
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:55,600
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a coaching decision. When you

1568
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 1: feel he is ready, you have the green light to

1569
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 1: put him in because we invest a lot in him

1570
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 1: and we believe he's the future. And if he projects

1571
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 1: to be that future and continues to mature, then I

1572
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 1: think it's it's a decision that that the Bill's offensive

1573
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 1: coaching staff makes, and they make it obviously with some

1574
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 1: with some discussion and uh but but they I don't

1575
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,879
Speaker 1: think they need managements approval. I would think that management

1576
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 1: has said, you make the assessment, and you decide when

1577
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna insert him into the Bills the Bill's quarterback position.

1578
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 1: Last thing I got for you, Mark this stevement. I've

1579
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 1: talked about it and it's become a parent. I believe

1580
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 1: the last couple of days or so, this preseason game

1581
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 1: has as many storylines and as much intrigue as really

1582
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 1: any preseason game I've ever been around. Most preseason games

1583
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 1: are like h not this one. This is an interesting

1584
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 1: game on both sides tonight. Yeah, kind of philosophical, it's

1585
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:47,759
Speaker 1: it's interesting as well. And there's a lot of talent

1586
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 1: that's on both teams and and that that has come

1587
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 1: from other teams and come from the Bills some of

1588
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:55,720
Speaker 1: the Bills personnel. And certainly when you look at this

1589
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 1: Brown's roster and you look at a defense that that

1590
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 1: defending the run last year, they were really good. I

1591
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 1: think Jamie Collins in my mind when he was playing

1592
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:06,599
Speaker 1: for the Patriots. I haven't seen him play much for Cleveland,

1593
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 1: but I thought he was he was one of the top, yeah,

1594
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 1: one of the top three or four defenders that playing

1595
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 1: that linebacker position in the league. And I was shocked

1596
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:16,799
Speaker 1: when when New England let him go. And I obviously

1597
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:20,719
Speaker 1: some contractual considerations were involved there, but certainly as a talent,

1598
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 1: they never would have let him go if they could

1599
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 1: have worked out finances in that situation. And then they

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01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 1: just they have stockpoped themselves with so much talent. And

1601
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 1: then you say, but they were porous really against the

1602
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 1: past last year, really struggled in the secondary. Think again,

1603
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 1: maybe he had some guys out of position. Maybe Peppers

1604
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 1: is better at strong safety. So they go out and

1605
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 1: and they pick up what's his name, Randall as it

1606
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:44,640
Speaker 1: rand up from the Packers, and they pick him up.

1607
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 1: So now they can move your Bill Peppers back to

1608
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 1: strong safety and get him down in the box a

1609
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 1: little bit more and have a natural free safety. And

1610
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 1: so there's lots of storylines and you say, okay, so

1611
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 1: now we've got a good defense. We shored that up.

1612
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 1: Now we need a good running game. And oh, by

1613
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 1: the way, we led the league in turnovers last year

1614
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 1: minus eight kind as gracious said it, I mean, it's

1615
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 1: a huge number. So you bring in a guy that

1616
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 1: you know what you're gonna get. If you said to

1617
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 1: me right now, what's Tyrod going to be at the

1618
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 1: end of the year, if in fact he starts, which

1619
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 1: they've named him the starter, but it remains to be seen.

1620
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 1: I guess sixteen games, you can here's what they tell him.

1621
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 1: Number fifteen D six interceptions and he's gonna run for

1622
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 1: like seven hundred and fifty yards and they're gonna score

1623
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 1: nineteen to twenty two points a game. So you know

1624
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 1: what you have and if you can manage that on

1625
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball, and you can keep

1626
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 1: teams under one hundred yards a game and then you

1627
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 1: can win some football games with with that cush get

1628
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 1: a couple of extra series of game if you can

1629
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 1: do it. And that's it. And they loaded up in

1630
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,720
Speaker 1: the running Game as well. So we're looking forward to

1631
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:44,679
Speaker 1: it tonight. No, I can't wait to work with I'm excited.

1632
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 1: And it was I know they used to call it

1633
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 1: the Mistake in the Lake, but yeah, that's a beautiful

1634
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 1: venue right there is. Yeah, beautiful. I mean when when

1635
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 1: it gets cold and the wind starts whipping in there,

1636
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 1: it's a little bad, but it is. It's a beautiful due.

1637
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 1: Loved my time here in Cleveland too, Thanks Martin great.

1638
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:02,599
Speaker 1: Thank you. Mark Kelso, color analysts on the Bills Radio network.

1639
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 1: He and I will be calling the game tonight, seven

1640
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 1: thirty kick off the Bills and the Browns on our

1641
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 1: flagship here in Buffalo, WGR Sports Radio five fifty. We'll

1642
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 1: have sell on the sidelines as well. Right stick them on.

1643
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the Browns and talk about hard

1644
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 1: knocks with the Browns coming up. Tim Romp, who is

1645
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 1: an NFL network or I'm sorry, NFL Films producer and

1646
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 1: the director of Hard Knocks as dandybody to join us

1647
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:24,639
Speaker 1: here when we return, Come on back for that John

1648
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 1: Murphy's team Tasker. It's one Bills Live from Cleveland on

1649
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:40,720
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to Cleveland. It's our show

1650
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 1: coming to up till three o'clock today. Coming up at

1651
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 1: the two o'clock hour, Chris Brown, Bills Insider from Buffalo

1652
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 1: Bills dot Com. We'll give us his view of tonight's game.

1653
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 1: What he's looking for in tonight's game. Chris always has

1654
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:51,640
Speaker 1: a pretty in depth ut. We thank Mark Kelso for

1655
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 1: joining us. Steve and I joined right now by a

1656
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 1: man who's been around the Cleveland Browns a lot over

1657
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:58,560
Speaker 1: the last month or so. He is a director of

1658
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:01,759
Speaker 1: Hard Knox with the Cleveland Browns this year NFL Film producer.

1659
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 1: Happy to have Tim RUNFL this Tim, thanks for coming by.

1660
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 1: We appreciate Thank you guys for having me. How many

1661
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks have you worked on over the years? So

1662
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 1: I've worked on eight Okay, this is the first year

1663
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 1: as director, but I've had various positions throughout eight years

1664
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 1: of And as director, are you in charge of cutting

1665
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 1: the show and getting no So basically my role as

1666
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 1: director we have a crew of thirty two people out

1667
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 1: here in Cleveland. Wow. Yeah, and then there's additional twenty

1668
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 1: people back then full films that actually go through and cut,

1669
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:29,600
Speaker 1: and there's a coordinating producer named Ken Rodgers. Back on

1670
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 1: that note kind of oversees the entire thing. So you

1671
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 1: tell me what's the I guess every team's got to

1672
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 1: be different. I mean, what makes the Cleveland Browns this

1673
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:40,600
Speaker 1: year easier or harder to work with? What's you know, logistics?

1674
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 1: I mean, everything's different for every team, But even though

1675
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:45,760
Speaker 1: they're all kind of the same, they're all different. Why

1676
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 1: are the Cleveland brown special edition? Guys? When we pick

1677
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 1: a team each year, we kind of try to figure

1678
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 1: out right place, right time, And really it was this

1679
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 1: year for Cleveland. It didn't really make sense last year

1680
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 1: or the year before, coming off those bad seasons. But

1681
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 1: you had those back to back seasons, the O and

1682
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:04,599
Speaker 1: sixteen season. There's kind of actually change going on this year.

1683
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:07,600
Speaker 1: Forty new players, a bunch of new head coaches. So

1684
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 1: it's really interesting to see how those pieces all come

1685
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 1: together and how they kind of turn the page and

1686
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 1: figure out how to put it all there. Steve, the

1687
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 1: other day, I'm you know, doing my depth chart for

1688
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:19,680
Speaker 1: two nights game, Browns have thirty four rookies or first

1689
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:22,680
Speaker 1: year players. That's an amazing number. I think it's a

1690
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:24,679
Speaker 1: lot of youth on that team. Well, that's another interesting

1691
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 1: dynamic that we're kind of following is that there's really

1692
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 1: not a huge veteran presence. I've got a handful of

1693
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 1: guys that are their leaders, and you kind of saw

1694
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 1: an episode one with Jarvis or a Christian Kirksey, but

1695
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:36,639
Speaker 1: overall it's a very young team. What do you think

1696
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 1: about Jarvis Landry and how much do you guys try

1697
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:43,600
Speaker 1: to set up not stars, but like key players that

1698
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:45,639
Speaker 1: you focus on. He appears to be one of them. Yeah.

1699
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 1: So basically before each season we kind of go in

1700
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 1: and cast a wide net. We try to look at

1701
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 1: all ninety players because we don't know who the guys

1702
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:54,559
Speaker 1: that are gonna be interesting once we get there. Obviously,

1703
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 1: we were familiar with Jarvis just from his time in Miami,

1704
01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:59,639
Speaker 1: but personally I knew him as a guy that was okay,

1705
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 1: this is a guy that catches one hundred, ten hundred,

1706
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:03,639
Speaker 1: twenty balls a year, but he's not quite Yeah, he's

1707
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 1: not quite that superstar status. Yet, or I didn't know

1708
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 1: much about him what he was like in the wide

1709
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 1: receiver's room or on the field during practice. So I

1710
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 1: was really blown away to see that side of him

1711
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 1: when he stood up and spoke in that meeting room,

1712
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 1: and I mean it made me really feel like they

1713
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:20,720
Speaker 1: got a great ballplayer. There's a lot going on, yeah

1714
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:23,799
Speaker 1: that I mean that. You also got this Corey Coleman

1715
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:25,680
Speaker 1: thing going on. You guys were in the room when

1716
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:27,680
Speaker 1: he said, if you don't want to be played, why

1717
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 1: don't you just trade me? And here we are again

1718
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:32,639
Speaker 1: He's coming back. Yeah, it should be a very interesting

1719
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:36,520
Speaker 1: dynamic tonight. I'm definitely curious to That is an understatement

1720
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 1: right there. Can you imagine? No? I can't. I mean, yeah,

1721
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 1: he's playing against guys that he was playing with just

1722
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 1: a week ago. So I think it would be safe

1723
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 1: to say that our cameras will be looking out for

1724
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 1: any pregame interaction between him and his former teammates. How

1725
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 1: much freedom do you have, like like, for instance, like

1726
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 1: this Dez Bryant thing now today has popped up. You

1727
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:57,679
Speaker 1: guys are probably keeping track of that. Are you following

1728
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 1: Dez around today? Not following Desert around? No? Again the

1729
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 1: second he signs with the team where it will be

1730
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 1: there in hip hoh, he'll be part of that show.

1731
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 1: And what do you I mean you talk about direct

1732
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 1: and you always say like directors or the guys like, hey,

1733
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 1: here's what we're looking Do you tell guys like John Dorsey,

1734
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 1: I like, hey, we're looking for this kind of thing.

1735
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 1: If we if we tape this conversation, could you like

1736
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 1: mention this guy's name? Could do Do you give them

1737
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 1: any direction like that at all? No? No, I mean

1738
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:21,720
Speaker 1: our job is to be a fly on wall and

1739
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:24,640
Speaker 1: just basically document everything that happened. So we try to

1740
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 1: have those conversations before we go in there and explain

1741
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:30,720
Speaker 1: what the show is. You know, this isn't a movie set,

1742
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 1: this is a documentary crew. They understand that where NFL films,

1743
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:36,680
Speaker 1: we're not HBO, So that relationship has been there for

1744
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:38,719
Speaker 1: fifty years. They kind of have that line of trust

1745
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 1: already with us, and I think that's kind of the

1746
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:43,680
Speaker 1: understanding that the team has when they welcome us in

1747
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 1: to do Hard Knocks is that Okay, our doors are open.

1748
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 1: Whatever happens in the building could end up in that show.

1749
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 1: Our guest is Tim Ruffi, is a director of Hard

1750
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 1: Knocks with the Cleveland Browns, NFL Films producer. How why

1751
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 1: is that door open? I mean, doesn't have come a

1752
01:20:57,240 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 1: point when they say, not this meeting fellows, that this discussion,

1753
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 1: please excuse us, you'd be shocked. No, that doesn't happen.

1754
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:06,639
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's that kind of understanding before

1755
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 1: we get there, that they know it's if it's in

1756
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 1: the building, it's going to be on the show. That's

1757
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 1: just part of the deal. And did they a post

1758
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 1: shoot edit ability? Can they go back and say, hey,

1759
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 1: you know that conversation we had about so and so,

1760
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 1: we'd prefer this neither in the show now. So we

1761
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 1: let them watch the show on Monday. But it's strictly

1762
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 1: for a competitive balance reasons. It's like, basically, when we

1763
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 1: watch it this week with Hugh and the team, there

1764
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 1: were some cadences in there. There were some play calls

1765
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:32,759
Speaker 1: that they pulled out there that we had no idea mattered.

1766
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 1: But they were like, hey, if Pittsburgh sees that week one,

1767
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 1: that causes issue. And that's the last thing we want

1768
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 1: to do is have them at a competitive disadvantage by

1769
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 1: doing the show stuff like white boards in the background.

1770
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:45,720
Speaker 1: You know, we showed a meeting and we didn't blur

1771
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 1: out a play on the background or even like a keyword.

1772
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 1: We had no idea what it meant that those are

1773
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 1: things they're looking for to take out. Not only do

1774
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 1: you have this ninety man roster full of personalities with

1775
01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:57,680
Speaker 1: this team, with this Browns team, you have two coordinators

1776
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 1: with outside personalities. You know, Greg Waynam's pretty well, and

1777
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 1: of course Todd Hailey is larger than life. I mean

1778
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 1: that adds to it, right when you have that kind

1779
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:11,759
Speaker 1: of person. We're always looking for personalities in the roster,

1780
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:14,640
Speaker 1: but when personalities are about in the coaching staff, that

1781
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 1: also helps, just because it's another dynamic to the team.

1782
01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:18,519
Speaker 1: I mean, these are the guys that are leading that

1783
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 1: roster out there, and a lot of people read into

1784
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 1: that and show one the meeting that Hugh led with Todd.

1785
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:27,760
Speaker 1: But really, I think if for the people that are

1786
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 1: around training camps, quite often the dynamic between the head

1787
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:34,600
Speaker 1: coach is coordinators, even coordinators between themselves. That's something that

1788
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 1: happens in every single camp, especially this staff. They're all

1789
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 1: unfamiliar with each other, so feeling each other out well.

1790
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 1: To that point, him and I had this conversation with

1791
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 1: the Bill's official earlier this week about that, and he said,

1792
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:48,920
Speaker 1: you know the conflict you see in those meetings, we

1793
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 1: all have that. We have that here, so the differences,

1794
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 1: we don't want it out there right right? How do

1795
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 1: you convince the Browns that that's okay to get it

1796
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 1: out there again? I think they just know that they

1797
01:22:57,479 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 1: sign up for beforehand, and you know, I try to

1798
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 1: go to the coredinators and let them know, Hey, this

1799
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:03,679
Speaker 1: is gonna be on camera, so they know it's coming.

1800
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 1: What it give us a whole something about tonight? What

1801
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 1: do you I know you're gonna you're watching Corey Coleman closely?

1802
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:13,599
Speaker 1: What about Tyrod Taylor and he's the guy that had

1803
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 1: a history in Buffalo traded? Tell us how you're handling

1804
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 1: that tonight. Absolutely. So, we have twelve cameras that are

1805
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 1: gonna be out there shooting the game tonight. One of

1806
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:23,679
Speaker 1: them is definitely gonna be on Tyrod for for every

1807
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:25,799
Speaker 1: single play that he's in there, because that's a fascinating

1808
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 1: story to kind of see. And granted it's preseason, but

1809
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 1: it's still that guy spent years in Buffalo and how

1810
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 1: that all went down you know, I'm sure he wants

1811
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:34,840
Speaker 1: to go out there and perform. Well, how many guys

1812
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:39,639
Speaker 1: are miked up? We have fifteen? Fifteen includes three coaches

1813
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 1: and three coaches both is it the coordination and the

1814
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:44,600
Speaker 1: head coach? Yeah, and then it's gonna be Tyrod and

1815
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 1: some veterans and jar all the gall exactly everybody. And

1816
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 1: if des Bryant gets signed this afternoon, will he be

1817
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:53,800
Speaker 1: miked up tonight? I don't think he'd be at the

1818
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:57,640
Speaker 1: game right. Oh, he'll be if he I mean, you

1819
01:23:57,720 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 1: know I had in uniform, but he'll be on their street.

1820
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 1: We'd have to scramble and figure that out. I had

1821
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 1: this conversation with the Ken Rodgers, who you mentioned a

1822
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. You shoot, but the editing and

1823
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 1: in the time crunch, I mean they're under the clock.

1824
01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 1: You got a show next week, by the way, and

1825
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 1: what do you got a three or four day time

1826
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:15,799
Speaker 1: frame to turn it around up. That's the most amazing

1827
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 1: part of this entire show. Um. We always talk about

1828
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 1: the example of something like Survivor has months to put

1829
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 1: together the footage and figure out what the storylines are.

1830
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 1: This show we're filming every single day. We send that

1831
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 1: footage back to Ken and his team back there, they're

1832
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:30,639
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what storylines matter that The ratio

1833
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:32,599
Speaker 1: that we have is basically we shoot four hundred hours

1834
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 1: of footage each week to whittle it down into sixty

1835
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 1: minutes of television, which so there's thirty three hundred ninety

1836
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:40,640
Speaker 1: nine minutes out there that people have gone through or

1837
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:43,640
Speaker 1: excuse me, hours that people have gone through, and um,

1838
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 1: you just at the end of the day, have to

1839
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:46,680
Speaker 1: make the best sexitment of change. You were telling us

1840
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 1: before you came on the air, you were part of

1841
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:49,679
Speaker 1: the crew. I think you said you were an editor

1842
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:53,759
Speaker 1: on the famous Jets Rector Ryan maybe the most famous Hardnecks?

1843
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 1: Was it the most famous ice rated? I think yeah,

1844
01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:00,160
Speaker 1: and a lot of people they reference that season as

1845
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 1: one of their favorites. I think it's just when you

1846
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 1: have a team that is as boisterous as their head coach,

1847
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 1: they kind of just took on his personality. Obviously, that's

1848
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 1: great television, and that was a team that had a

1849
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:12,479
Speaker 1: lot of success going into that year as well. So

1850
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 1: that was a fascinating story to follow. Well, can we

1851
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 1: look forward to in these next So that breaks a

1852
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:20,760
Speaker 1: question you don't know what this next episode's gonna look

1853
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:23,679
Speaker 1: like yet, No win's it air? Yeah, so it airs

1854
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 1: on Tuesday at ten o'clock, and I think i'll see

1855
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 1: the first rough cut of it probably like Monday morning

1856
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 1: or Sunday night. So at this point, I really have

1857
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 1: no idea. We have some ideas of some guys we

1858
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:35,599
Speaker 1: would like to introduce, but a lot of it really

1859
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 1: matters on what happens in this game too. You know,

1860
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:40,720
Speaker 1: someone that goes out and scores two touchdowns, you kind

1861
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 1: of want to make him a character in the show.

1862
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 1: So it has yet to be written exactly. Yeah, it's

1863
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 1: more credit to Kenn and his guys back there. They

1864
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 1: scramble Saturday and Sunday really putting this thing together. I

1865
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 1: think the first cut of it is probably like four hours.

1866
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 1: Then you whittle it down to really make the most

1867
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 1: solid sixteen minutes. All Right, we're done here. Let's go

1868
01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:01,200
Speaker 1: eat a snack. Right when you saw that a couple

1869
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 1: of years ago, you said, oh, that's that's it. That's

1870
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 1: the money, and the T shirts followed. I love that. Hey, Tim,

1871
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 1: thanks for this great the rest of this episode. Tim

1872
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Speaker 1: Rump is a director of Hard Knocks with the Cleveland

1873
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 1: Browns Airs on HBO ten o'clock on Tuesday o'clock ten

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01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 1: o'clock on Tuesday's a longtime NFL Films producer joining us

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01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 1: here in Cleveland. Steve and I back with more one

1876
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 1: Bills Live from Cleveland. I'm Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome mack

1877
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:37,599
Speaker 1: Tough Cleveland. We're in the Cleveland downtown Hilton Hotel, Lakeside Avenue.

1878
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:40,639
Speaker 1: We're a block and a half away from First Energy Stadium,

1879
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:43,240
Speaker 1: and we are, what through, just five hours away from

1880
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 1: kickoff five and a half hours away from kickoff the

1881
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 1: Bills in the Cleveland Browns preseason game number two. John

1882
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:51,160
Speaker 1: Murphy was Steve Tasker here doing our show until three

1883
01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 1: o'clock today. We got Chris Brown, Bills insider from Buffalo

1884
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 1: Bills dot com. See anybody to join us at two

1885
01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 1: o'clock um and our thanks again to Tim Rump from

1886
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 1: NFL Films and director of Hard Knocks. Talking about that joke,

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Speaker 1: I mean the build now now we're gonna have to

1888
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 1: watch Hard Knox next week, Steve, because the Bills will

1889
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 1: be part of it, part of the story now, because

1890
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 1: the Bills come here, as you pointed out, and you

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01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:13,799
Speaker 1: are absolutely right Tonight's game will be like a pivotal

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01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 1: point in that television series, right preseason game number two,

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Speaker 1: Tyrod uh Corey Coleman potentially does Bryant signing on Tonight's

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Speaker 1: game will be the focus I believe of episode three

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Speaker 1: for Hard Knocks this year. I think so too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be It's interesting to know that it's

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01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 1: not gonna be put together until after the game that's

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Speaker 1: we're gonna watch tonight. Uh, fifteen guys are gonna be

1899
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:39,559
Speaker 1: miked up. You're gonna hear a lot of conversation. They're

1900
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:41,200
Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of it, and they gotta whittle

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01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 1: it down. They shoot four hundred hours of stuff. That's

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01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 1: a lot of work. Man, It's four hundred hours of

1903
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 1: stuff for one that they condensed down into it. Oh

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Speaker 1: my goodness, amazing, Oh gosh, thanks Tim. We thanked Tim

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Speaker 1: Roun for joining us. There was NFL football last night

1906
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Speaker 1: and some interesting games, including the Jets. It was on

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01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:00,600
Speaker 1: where I was last night and I watched it with

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01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 1: a sound down and saw that they started Sam Darnold.

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01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:08,720
Speaker 1: The Jets thought their rookie quarterback should start because why

1910
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:10,240
Speaker 1: because they want to see him play with the ones,

1911
01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 1: and he did. He had one bad throw late in

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Speaker 1: the first half, threw an interception against Washington, but still

1913
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 1: very much a part of the quarterback competition there At

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01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 1: the Jets, Todd Bowles said, it's it's the same. It's

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01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 1: gonna be a tough choice on quarterback. Still got two

1916
01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 1: more games to play and we'll go from there. Darnold

1917
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 1: got the start, played the first half, yielded to Teddy Bridgewater.

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Speaker 1: Darnald eight eleven sixty two yards. Not great, but not bad, right,

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Speaker 1: not bad. He had that one interception and uh, Todd

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Speaker 1: bowl says, basically put it on him. He said, that

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Speaker 1: was a bad play call we made there. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: it's it's interesting too that you know who else played

1923
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 1: very well was Teddy Bridgewater. He played really well. And

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01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:50,040
Speaker 1: everybody's like, well, what are they gonna do? They're gonna

1925
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 1: trade Teddy Bridge? They got a good quarterback. Why would you?

1926
01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:55,560
Speaker 1: Why would you keep get rid of him and not

1927
01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:58,680
Speaker 1: keep him and get rid of Josh McCown. Yeah, well,

1928
01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 1: they're all playing well, and McCowan could serve as a

1929
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Speaker 1: mentor if they're gonna go with Darnald, right, could keep

1930
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Speaker 1: the guy that can win. Maybe they're gonna go with Darnald.

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Speaker 1: He could start, so yeah, you gotta keep a guy

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Speaker 1: behind him. I mean, that's to me, that's crazy talk.

1933
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Speaker 1: I mean, Jacks aren't winning any division titles this year. Well, yeah, hey,

1934
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Speaker 1: let's let's before we decide that, let's watch these teams

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Speaker 1: play a little bit. I mean, you know, I I'm

1936
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:27,600
Speaker 1: with you, but I just don't know why everybody's like

1937
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:30,479
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater was ten or fifteen four hundred and twenty

1938
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 1: seven yards a pick and a TD and Darnald was

1939
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:36,680
Speaker 1: eight of eleven for sixty two yards with an interception,

1940
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Speaker 1: and both of them played really well. Yeah, both of

1941
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 1: them played really well. That'll be an interesting case to watch.

1942
01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 1: Of course, the Bills will be watching closely, and you yeah, whatever.

1943
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get into the thing about how that,

1944
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:52,200
Speaker 1: how that the fact that what the Jets did translates

1945
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:55,040
Speaker 1: over what the Bills should do in what way the

1946
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:58,240
Speaker 1: way they're starting quarterbaarting their rookie quarterback. I have a

1947
01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:01,080
Speaker 1: different quarterback mix Aaron and quite frankly seeven. I think

1948
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:05,120
Speaker 1: they have different expectation level. I think the Jets expectation

1949
01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:07,120
Speaker 1: level is lower than the Bills going into this year.

1950
01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:10,840
Speaker 1: I think Todd, Sean McDermot and his group are thinking,

1951
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:12,679
Speaker 1: we made the playoffs last year, let's do it again

1952
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:14,400
Speaker 1: this year, and they're gonna be more talented this year.

1953
01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:16,479
Speaker 1: And I thought that's what drives part of what drives

1954
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:19,320
Speaker 1: their quarterback decision. And this is a team and a

1955
01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:21,559
Speaker 1: coaching staff said a ton of times on the show.

1956
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:25,880
Speaker 1: They overachieved under this coaching staff last year. They got

1957
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:28,760
Speaker 1: a lot out of less talent last year. If the

1958
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 1: expect and that expectation goes along with it, you got

1959
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:33,439
Speaker 1: to get more out of this talent. And if you

1960
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:35,760
Speaker 1: do more out of this talent, you're looking at a

1961
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:40,000
Speaker 1: ten win season or eleven or twelve win Season's that's

1962
01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:44,760
Speaker 1: the expectation. I think that's inside that room, and we'll

1963
01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:46,519
Speaker 1: see if they can get it done. Chris Brown say,

1964
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:48,960
Speaker 1: anybody to join us Bills Insider from Buffalo Bills dot Com.

1965
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:51,519
Speaker 1: Stephen I back for one more hour, One Bills Live

1966
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Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health from Cleveland from the Cleveland Hilton

1967
01:30:54,880 --> 01:31:05,600
Speaker 1: Downtown Hotel on Buffalo Bills Radio. Hills Radio Network Stories Update,

1968
01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:10,200
Speaker 1: the update from Cleveland, where the Bills are getting set

1969
01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:12,240
Speaker 1: to play Who's the quarterback tonight. We don't know. They

1970
01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:15,599
Speaker 1: haven't announced. Just like last week, head Coachean McDermott waiting

1971
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:18,640
Speaker 1: until close to game time to make his announcement on

1972
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:21,639
Speaker 1: who will start a quarterback preseason game number two. Last week,

1973
01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:24,639
Speaker 1: he started Naken Peterman in the preseason opener against Carolina.

1974
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:26,880
Speaker 1: He could go with AJ mccarren. Tonight, he could go

1975
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:30,160
Speaker 1: with the rookie Josh Allen, although Allen took primarily second

1976
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:32,760
Speaker 1: team reps during this past practice week. We'll find out

1977
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:35,880
Speaker 1: tonight Bills and Browns at First Energy Stadium in Cleveland.

1978
01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:38,000
Speaker 1: We know Tyrod Taylor will start the game for the

1979
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:41,240
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, Buffalo's former quarterback the last three years. Bills

1980
01:31:41,280 --> 01:31:43,120
Speaker 1: and brown seven thirty. Tonight, We've got the call of

1981
01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:45,600
Speaker 1: the game on our flagship radio station in Buffalo, w

1982
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:48,439
Speaker 1: GR Sports Radio five fifty. I'll be there along with

1983
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 1: Markelso and Salcapachuo be on the sidelines. Join us for

1984
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 1: that with pregame covers starting at four o'clock. Countown to

1985
01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:58,120
Speaker 1: kickoff starting at four on our WGR flightship. The Browns

1986
01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:01,719
Speaker 1: working things out with Dez Bryant. What Bryant told ESPN

1987
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:05,160
Speaker 1: Dez Bryant visited the Browns yesterday. The former Dallas Cowboy

1988
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:08,639
Speaker 1: wide receiver says we will know more tomorrow. Meeting today,

1989
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:11,080
Speaker 1: they will continue to talk. The Browns might be ready

1990
01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:14,439
Speaker 1: to add Dez Bryant to their receiving corps. The Patriots

1991
01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 1: have lost their top draft choice, Isaiah Win. He tores

1992
01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 1: left Achilles and last night's preseason aiming against the Eagles.

1993
01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:22,960
Speaker 1: He will miss the entire season. An offensive tackling guard

1994
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:25,519
Speaker 1: out of Georgia, I'd been working as the patriots backup

1995
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 1: left tackle. This past week. The club looked at possibly

1996
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:30,640
Speaker 1: playing him at right tackle. The injury occurred in the

1997
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:33,080
Speaker 1: first quarter of the game. Win pass blocking came up limping.

1998
01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 1: He is out twenty third overall picking the draft. Isaiah

1999
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 1: Win out for the season from the from the New

2000
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:42,919
Speaker 1: England Patriots and John Elway, the director of football operations

2001
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:45,479
Speaker 1: for the Denver Broncos, says that as they look for

2002
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:48,920
Speaker 1: a backup quarterback, Colin Kaepernick will not be a consideration.

2003
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:51,960
Speaker 1: The Broncos this week demotive Taxton Lynch to number three.

2004
01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:54,599
Speaker 1: They're working with Chad Kelly as their number two as

2005
01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:56,400
Speaker 1: they try to find the backup for Case king him

2006
01:32:56,439 --> 01:32:59,599
Speaker 1: it will not be Colin Kaepernick, according to John Elway.

2007
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:01,799
Speaker 1: And then as a sports update from the Bill's Headquarters

2008
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:10,000
Speaker 1: hotel in Cleveland, Oh a good time, Steve Casperos dos

2009
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:25,240
Speaker 1: dos times, Welcome back, Welcome back to our one Bill's

2010
01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:27,679
Speaker 1: Live show, John Murphy and Steve Casker here in Cleveland

2011
01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:31,200
Speaker 1: at the Hilton Cleveland Downtown Hotel. This beautiful new hotel

2012
01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:32,840
Speaker 1: a couple of years old, about a block and a

2013
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:35,840
Speaker 1: half away from First Energy Stadium. Myself and Steve joined

2014
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:38,360
Speaker 1: by Bill's insider Chris Brown from Buffalo Bills dot com.

2015
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Speaker 1: And you enjoined your visit to Cleveland. Chris, it's been good. Yeah,

2016
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Speaker 1: it's a good hotel. Got some good food last night,

2017
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Speaker 1: so no complaints here. Can I tell you my quick

2018
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:48,680
Speaker 1: check in story from last night from so I think

2019
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:51,519
Speaker 1: I heard this secondhand, but go ahead, you heard this already.

2020
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:53,560
Speaker 1: I didn't tell him any kind of forgot about And

2021
01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:56,120
Speaker 1: so we drove in. You me and Jay. What time

2022
01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 1: do we get here? Six thirty seven o'clock last night,

2023
01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:02,360
Speaker 1: quarters quarter to seven thirty. So I go to the

2024
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Speaker 1: front desk check in. Uh, mister Murphy, Yes, here's your key.

2025
01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:08,640
Speaker 1: They gave me the key and I go upstairs to

2026
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:11,720
Speaker 1: the eighteenth floor, swipe the key, walk in to the

2027
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:14,719
Speaker 1: room assigned to mister Murphy. Somebody's in there. Trent Murphy

2028
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 1: was in there, lying out of the bed in his skivvies.

2029
01:34:20,360 --> 01:34:22,920
Speaker 1: I'm telling you the truth. Was doing the Christy and

2030
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:26,240
Speaker 1: get used to the jump up and rip your jumped

2031
01:34:26,280 --> 01:34:28,519
Speaker 1: up a little bit. And I said, Trent, I'm sorry.

2032
01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:30,600
Speaker 1: I said, oh, I guess I see what happened here.

2033
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:32,400
Speaker 1: And he goes, hey, no problem. We're laughing and I'm

2034
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 1: walking out, and he said it could have been worse.

2035
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:38,880
Speaker 1: I thought he's right, it could have been worse. That

2036
01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:43,360
Speaker 1: is very Trent Murphy and Trent Murphy get worse in

2037
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:45,599
Speaker 1: a number of ways. Yeah, they gave me the key

2038
01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:48,200
Speaker 1: to Trent Murphy's room. We got Marcus Murphy here too.

2039
01:34:48,680 --> 01:34:51,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go through this all year, checking into these hotels.

2040
01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:53,000
Speaker 1: I told him my first name. I'm not kind of

2041
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:54,880
Speaker 1: funny because I've never had that with the last name

2042
01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:57,240
Speaker 1: of Brown. We've had guys Damn Brown on this team. Yeah,

2043
01:34:57,320 --> 01:34:59,720
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, it was pretty funny last night, Chris,

2044
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:04,439
Speaker 1: I could have been worse. I'm running in I went

2045
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:06,240
Speaker 1: down back down to get the other key, you know,

2046
01:35:06,360 --> 01:35:08,240
Speaker 1: and I spent the whole time on the elevator just

2047
01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:10,479
Speaker 1: shaking my head saying, that's really funny. It could have

2048
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:12,599
Speaker 1: been worse. He's right, it could have been worse. Chris.

2049
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:14,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you the question we got up on Twitter.

2050
01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:17,200
Speaker 1: Not a Twitter poll. I've been outvoted on that, But

2051
01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:19,479
Speaker 1: the question is what are you looking for? What are

2052
01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:21,439
Speaker 1: you most looking for in tonight's game? And you can

2053
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:23,679
Speaker 1: go either side Bill's Brown, you can go either side

2054
01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:26,439
Speaker 1: of the football offense, defense. What are you most looking

2055
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:28,320
Speaker 1: for in this game tonight? What do you got your

2056
01:35:28,360 --> 01:35:31,839
Speaker 1: eye on tonight? Corey Coleman and Zay Jones, the receiver

2057
01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:38,880
Speaker 1: group outside of Kelvin Benjamin really hasn't seeing a whole

2058
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:43,000
Speaker 1: lot of separation. I don't believe through word camp. Separations

2059
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 1: are worded the day, Okay, through training camp and through

2060
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:50,320
Speaker 1: the first preseason game. And Zay Jones is a player

2061
01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:53,600
Speaker 1: that they had high hopes for, you know, coming in

2062
01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:55,680
Speaker 1: as a rookie last year. We know the offseason that

2063
01:35:55,720 --> 01:35:58,320
Speaker 1: he had. He's still playing catch up now, although he's

2064
01:35:58,360 --> 01:36:01,240
Speaker 1: looked good in the time he's been back. Corey Coleman

2065
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:04,639
Speaker 1: has a short amount of time to convince this coaching

2066
01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:07,599
Speaker 1: staff that he can be a playmaker in this offense.

2067
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:09,920
Speaker 1: Tonight is the first time they're both going to step

2068
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 1: on the field. So that's those are the two guys

2069
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 1: I'm focusing on the most tonight to see what they

2070
01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 1: can offer. I'm thinking the day just having what three

2071
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:21,040
Speaker 1: or four days of full non contact practice. Probably he's

2072
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:23,120
Speaker 1: not going to be overloaded with work tonight. No, I

2073
01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:26,920
Speaker 1: wouldn't anticipate that. Um, but I think he's gonna get

2074
01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:30,120
Speaker 1: enough time to at least show what he can do

2075
01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:33,720
Speaker 1: out there where he is at and how familiar he

2076
01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:37,840
Speaker 1: is in executing the assignments and playing fast and the

2077
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:40,160
Speaker 1: script is much the same for Corey Coleman. I mean, well,

2078
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:41,880
Speaker 1: and let me get to that point. I agree with

2079
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:44,519
Speaker 1: you on Coleman especially. I'm thinking this is probably the

2080
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:47,000
Speaker 1: most important game that Corey Coleman's ever played in his

2081
01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:53,880
Speaker 1: brief NFL career tonight. Yeah, yes, I mean you're you're

2082
01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:56,439
Speaker 1: terming that in a way that to convince this team

2083
01:36:56,880 --> 01:36:59,160
Speaker 1: he can be something for them. Yes, yeah, I would

2084
01:36:59,160 --> 01:37:02,040
Speaker 1: agree with that. Yeah, you know, you came in with

2085
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:04,839
Speaker 1: the stock of being a first round pick. In Cleveland,

2086
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:07,759
Speaker 1: you kind of have an on ramp, so to speak,

2087
01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:09,960
Speaker 1: where you can make a mistake here or there, or

2088
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:12,120
Speaker 1: do this or that. He has got to be on

2089
01:37:12,280 --> 01:37:15,439
Speaker 1: the ball tonight in every way, shape and form. Can't

2090
01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:19,360
Speaker 1: have any mental errors, can't have any busted assignments. He's

2091
01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:21,360
Speaker 1: got to mind his p's and ques and be on

2092
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 1: point tonight. And you know, if you don't execute because

2093
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:27,240
Speaker 1: you know you have tight coverage, or you know you

2094
01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:30,240
Speaker 1: can't make a play in a crowd, that's forgivable. But

2095
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:34,040
Speaker 1: you know fall starts running the wrong route that leads

2096
01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:37,800
Speaker 1: to a pick. Drops, drops, These are not gonna be good,

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Speaker 1: you know, for his short term future. It's been my

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01:37:41,040 --> 01:37:43,560
Speaker 1: observation and experience that when you get a guy like

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01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:46,640
Speaker 1: Zay Jones, who's who's been out and he's gonna get

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01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:49,679
Speaker 1: in and may or may not get a lot of snaps,

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01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:51,639
Speaker 1: but Corey Coleman as well, he's gonna get in. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna play a significant amount of time. And these are

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Speaker 1: guys that are under the microscope, not just for us,

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01:37:56,280 --> 01:37:59,679
Speaker 1: but because for the coaching staff, and these are important

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01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:01,280
Speaker 1: players that they want to get a look at, and

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01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:06,040
Speaker 1: they missed a game when they're in there. It's been

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01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:09,320
Speaker 1: my experience. They're gonna get some opportunities. They're gonna they're

2108
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:11,639
Speaker 1: gonna be their number is gonna be called. They're gonna

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01:38:11,680 --> 01:38:13,880
Speaker 1: be if it if they were running backs and they

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01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:15,720
Speaker 1: were in there for one series, they're gonna run that

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01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:18,000
Speaker 1: ball seventy five percent of the time in that series.

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01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:20,519
Speaker 1: That kind of thing. And these wide receivers as Corey

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01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:22,560
Speaker 1: Coleman and Zay Jones, when they are in there, no

2114
01:38:22,680 --> 01:38:26,440
Speaker 1: matter who's throwing them the football, they're gonna get some opportunities.

2115
01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:28,479
Speaker 1: You're the number one target on this play, go win.

2116
01:38:28,680 --> 01:38:30,599
Speaker 1: I got that kind of thing exactly right, and that's

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01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:32,719
Speaker 1: why I listed those two guys on our five players

2118
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:34,760
Speaker 1: to watch on Buffalo Bills dot Com. Like last week,

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01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:38,240
Speaker 1: Calvin Benjamin four catches for you know, five for gonna

2120
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Speaker 1: be on the night it is. That's the exact kind

2121
01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:42,519
Speaker 1: of scenario I'm looking for for both those guys when

2122
01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:44,240
Speaker 1: they're in there. Now, they're in there together, you know,

2123
01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 1: take your pick, but I think they're I don't know

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01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:49,439
Speaker 1: that they will be, but I think that's why I

2125
01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:51,960
Speaker 1: think that's a part of the deal tonight. Those guys

2126
01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:53,360
Speaker 1: are gonna be looked at and they're gonna get some

2127
01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:55,599
Speaker 1: shots at them. Well with Chris Brown, Bills insider from

2128
01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:58,000
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills dot Com and talking about tonight's game and

2129
01:38:58,080 --> 01:38:59,679
Speaker 1: what are we looking for, and you mentioned you're looking

2130
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 1: for separation at the receiver spot at the top of

2131
01:39:03,200 --> 01:39:04,960
Speaker 1: our show, I was talking about it. I'd love to

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01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:07,479
Speaker 1: see some separation at quarterback. Maybe we see it tonight.

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01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:12,280
Speaker 1: You hope, Yeah, I can hope, Burf, But I don't

2134
01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:16,120
Speaker 1: know if there's any guarantees on that. I think somebody's

2135
01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:18,960
Speaker 1: got a slip. Really. I mean, if you think, well,

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01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:21,200
Speaker 1: if you think of just going off the first preseason game,

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01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:24,040
Speaker 1: I would say that. I mean mccaren seven to ten

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01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:29,360
Speaker 1: and executed a well put together scoring drive. Peterman came

2139
01:39:29,400 --> 01:39:33,200
Speaker 1: out firing nine to ten touchdown on a well placed

2140
01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:36,759
Speaker 1: ball over the shoulder of Benjamin you know, in Allen,

2141
01:39:37,160 --> 01:39:39,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if he was quite as consistent as

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01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:41,880
Speaker 1: those two, but if he steps up his game, I

2143
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:45,120
Speaker 1: think it makes it more complicated. You know. If let's

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01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:50,200
Speaker 1: just say hypothetically that Peterman and mccaren kind of hold serve,

2145
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:53,080
Speaker 1: so to speak, play in similar fashion to the way

2146
01:39:53,120 --> 01:39:56,439
Speaker 1: they played last week, that's all good. It may not

2147
01:39:56,520 --> 01:40:00,920
Speaker 1: be great. Alan steps up his game and lights it up.

2148
01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:04,120
Speaker 1: I think it makes it even harder because now you

2149
01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:07,599
Speaker 1: could make the argument, playing with the twos taking another

2150
01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:10,760
Speaker 1: step forward, has he has he leveled off with the

2151
01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:14,439
Speaker 1: other two, because all through training camp, coach McDermott has

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01:40:14,439 --> 01:40:17,680
Speaker 1: been pretty clear, you know that these two guys kind

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01:40:17,680 --> 01:40:20,240
Speaker 1: of have a handle on things, and Josh is working

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01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:22,720
Speaker 1: his way up. You know if if he lights it

2155
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:24,679
Speaker 1: up tonight and the other two kind of hold serve,

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01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:30,519
Speaker 1: now you've created a log jam forget about separation, You've

2157
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:33,120
Speaker 1: you've made it a schmuzzle. Now I'm will be for

2158
01:40:33,240 --> 01:40:36,760
Speaker 1: separation on a positive side, like Josh Allen lights it up.

2159
01:40:36,840 --> 01:40:39,160
Speaker 1: That separation the other two only one of the things

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Speaker 1: I mentioned this served in this show. Brownie, you can

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01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:46,479
Speaker 1: mention see if you agree with me. I said, I

2162
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:51,160
Speaker 1: get the feeling to a great degree that these and

2163
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:53,479
Speaker 1: we've been doing we all been doing it. Who's playing

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01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:55,120
Speaker 1: with the ones, who's playing with the twos, who's playing

2165
01:40:55,120 --> 01:40:57,759
Speaker 1: with the threes? They flip flops, switched around and shuffled.

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01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:00,479
Speaker 1: I get the feeling every time they've on that it

2167
01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:02,760
Speaker 1: has been part of a larger plan that they set

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01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:05,479
Speaker 1: in motion way back when. I don't think anything has changed.

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01:41:05,880 --> 01:41:09,200
Speaker 1: No matter how anybody has been playing, the plan has

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01:41:09,240 --> 01:41:11,800
Speaker 1: still been carried out exactly like they planned it a

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01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:15,080
Speaker 1: month ago or six weeks ago. And I don't think

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01:41:15,120 --> 01:41:17,800
Speaker 1: anything's changed with that. I don't think the play, good

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01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:20,960
Speaker 1: or bad, has changed any for them to adjust the plan.

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Speaker 1: They have not adjusted the plan at all. So it's

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01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:26,760
Speaker 1: your opinion that going into preseason Game two, the plan

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01:41:27,080 --> 01:41:31,200
Speaker 1: was to move Alan up to the twos this week. Yes, Okay,

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Speaker 1: yes I do. I don't know because I think I

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Speaker 1: think those two because I think Nathan Peterman and AJ

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Speaker 1: McCarron are even back then when they got him in

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01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:45,000
Speaker 1: the OTAs and they started looking at him, They the

2181
01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:48,920
Speaker 1: same style of quarterback, both have fifth round arm talent,

2182
01:41:49,240 --> 01:41:52,640
Speaker 1: They both have some experience. Peterman has more experience with

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills than AJ does, but AJ's a longer

2184
01:41:55,200 --> 01:41:57,000
Speaker 1: term veteran. I think that's all the kind of a wash.

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01:41:57,080 --> 01:42:00,439
Speaker 1: I think they're the same kind of guy, Peterman. I

2186
01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:02,800
Speaker 1: think they're all the same kind of guys. So let's say, Okay,

2187
01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:04,920
Speaker 1: when we get to this, we can put these guys

2188
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:07,280
Speaker 1: wherever we want them. Because they're gonna show the same

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01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:10,040
Speaker 1: that we've seen. And here's the plan when we get

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01:42:10,040 --> 01:42:12,960
Speaker 1: to this week, number two, whoever we draft. And I

2191
01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:15,280
Speaker 1: think this was done that early. Yeah, we're gonna plug

2192
01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:17,000
Speaker 1: him and see what they can do that they'll have

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01:42:17,160 --> 01:42:19,000
Speaker 1: enough time in the OTAs and all that to get

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01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:20,320
Speaker 1: up there to get up to speed. With a couple

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01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:22,080
Speaker 1: of minutes of camp, we'll give him the number two

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01:42:22,120 --> 01:42:24,080
Speaker 1: and see how they do. And I think that's I

2197
01:42:24,240 --> 01:42:27,680
Speaker 1: think that has been in place, you know, I hear yet.

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01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:30,560
Speaker 1: I think there's they have built more flexibility in that

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01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:32,880
Speaker 1: they have planned than than you might than you might

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01:42:32,880 --> 01:42:34,640
Speaker 1: be staying. They don't have to build anything and they

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01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:36,160
Speaker 1: can decide on them. No. I mean I think they

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01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:37,519
Speaker 1: went in the last week and say, hey, if Josh

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01:42:37,560 --> 01:42:40,759
Speaker 1: Tho is okay, first preseason game against threes with threes,

2204
01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:42,519
Speaker 1: then we'll play him with the two. See. I think

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01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:44,920
Speaker 1: it's just the opposite of that. I think they said

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01:42:44,920 --> 01:42:47,040
Speaker 1: we are not gonna do deep. We're not gonna get

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01:42:47,080 --> 01:42:49,320
Speaker 1: carried away with this kid. We're not gonna he's gonna

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01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:51,120
Speaker 1: come in, he's gonna throw them, he's gonna throw this

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Speaker 1: thing out of the stadium. He's gonna throw. She's gonna

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01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:55,280
Speaker 1: run better than they do. He's gonna have a better

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01:42:55,439 --> 01:42:57,320
Speaker 1: arm than they do. He's gonna be more accurate than

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01:42:57,360 --> 01:42:59,920
Speaker 1: people think he was gonna be. He's the sharpest kid

2213
01:43:00,640 --> 01:43:03,760
Speaker 1: coming out of all the quarterbacks. He's significant. His test

2214
01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:07,280
Speaker 1: scores is wonder licks. He's significantly Rosen was up there too. Yeah,

2215
01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:12,960
Speaker 1: Allan was significantly higher than Rosen. I mean, so they

2216
01:43:13,439 --> 01:43:15,519
Speaker 1: we're not gonna let ourselves get carried away like that.

2217
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:18,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna stay the course. I think they're just just

2218
01:43:18,320 --> 01:43:20,400
Speaker 1: the opposite of that. I think they're trying their best

2219
01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:24,040
Speaker 1: to sit on him. M let's take a phone called.

2220
01:43:24,120 --> 01:43:27,200
Speaker 1: Chris Brown joins US Bills Insider from Buffalo bills dot Com.

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01:43:27,360 --> 01:43:29,519
Speaker 1: Joining Steve and I here on one Bill's Life. Dave

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01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:31,760
Speaker 1: Coley from Amherst. Go ahead, Dave High, you're on the air.

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01:43:32,680 --> 01:43:34,840
Speaker 1: Hey guys, you can do a great job. I really

2224
01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:39,760
Speaker 1: enjoy your show. Listen to answer your question. I'm looking

2225
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:43,360
Speaker 1: to see who's gonna step up and individual players. Let's

2226
01:43:43,439 --> 01:43:47,160
Speaker 1: just sit back and take a look, because, as we

2227
01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:50,439
Speaker 1: say in seminars, the only fair way to judge anything

2228
01:43:50,479 --> 01:43:53,439
Speaker 1: as results often harsh, but always fair. So I'm just

2229
01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:55,680
Speaker 1: just sit back and we can talk about this guy

2230
01:43:55,720 --> 01:43:57,479
Speaker 1: and that guy, and this guy should show up and

2231
01:43:57,560 --> 01:44:00,400
Speaker 1: that guy's gonna hope he does. Let's just back and

2232
01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:03,000
Speaker 1: see now. I have two questions for you, guys, Um,

2233
01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:06,280
Speaker 1: can our offensive line protect the quarterback and open holes

2234
01:44:06,560 --> 01:44:10,200
Speaker 1: comparable to maybe top five, top seven teams in the NFL?

2235
01:44:10,840 --> 01:44:13,120
Speaker 1: If not, where we're going? And the second one is,

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01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:17,200
Speaker 1: is aj at Tyrode clone the way he protects the quarterback?

2237
01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:20,800
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry he protects the ball? Um? If so?

2238
01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:24,160
Speaker 1: Are we in for another twenty seventeen season? I'll hang

2239
01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:29,320
Speaker 1: up and listen to reply. Thanks, guys. Well, twenty seventeen

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01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:30,920
Speaker 1: wasn't all that bad. I mean they were going to

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01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:32,880
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I mean, I mean, it's not like they

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01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:35,360
Speaker 1: fell on their face in twenty seventeen. Karen's a lot

2243
01:44:35,439 --> 01:44:38,640
Speaker 1: different than Tyrode, Yet he sees the middle of the

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01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:43,360
Speaker 1: field and uses there's not a whole lot of I

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01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:45,720
Speaker 1: don't think there's similarities between those two. I don't think

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01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:47,760
Speaker 1: he is at all. I agree. I mean, I think

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01:44:47,800 --> 01:44:49,639
Speaker 1: all three of these quarterbacks are gonna put the ball

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01:44:49,720 --> 01:44:51,639
Speaker 1: in Harm's way a lot more than Tyrod didn't they're

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01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:53,680
Speaker 1: going to get better results on the positive and they're

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Speaker 1: gonna get worse results on the negative. I think it's

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01:44:56,080 --> 01:44:58,720
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna they're they're gonna do a lot

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01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:00,640
Speaker 1: more things with the football in the pas. As for

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01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:02,600
Speaker 1: the offensive line, it is not going to be a

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01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:04,559
Speaker 1: top five or a top seven unit for a couple

2255
01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:07,040
Speaker 1: of factors. Number one, you're going to have at least

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01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:10,840
Speaker 1: two people in new positions. Number two, you're executing a

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01:45:10,920 --> 01:45:14,840
Speaker 1: brand new offense. All of these things take time to

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01:45:15,120 --> 01:45:19,960
Speaker 1: gel and coalesce to be an effective unit that's looking

2259
01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:22,400
Speaker 1: like a well oiled machine week in and week out.

2260
01:45:22,479 --> 01:45:25,519
Speaker 1: That may not happen in week one, may not happen

2261
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:28,639
Speaker 1: in week three. They may not be rolling until week six.

2262
01:45:29,200 --> 01:45:32,160
Speaker 1: We don't know. But the history of this league has

2263
01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:35,479
Speaker 1: shown when you bring change to a unit, particularly the

2264
01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:38,360
Speaker 1: offensive line, it's going to take time to pull that

2265
01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:40,600
Speaker 1: all together. Then you throw in a new offense on

2266
01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:44,920
Speaker 1: top of that, then you have more to kind of

2267
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:47,680
Speaker 1: get all in line and operating and functioning in a

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01:45:47,720 --> 01:45:50,360
Speaker 1: way that is satisfactory to be an effective offense. Now

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01:45:50,680 --> 01:45:54,080
Speaker 1: saying all that, I will say this, I believe that

2270
01:45:54,200 --> 01:45:58,360
Speaker 1: the run blocking by this unit has been considerably better

2271
01:45:58,640 --> 01:46:01,439
Speaker 1: than their pass blocking through the course of training camp.

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01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:03,840
Speaker 1: In the first preseason game, I think this is gonna

2273
01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:05,439
Speaker 1: be a team that's gonna be able to run the football.

2274
01:46:05,479 --> 01:46:09,840
Speaker 1: I really do, despite the changes up front. As for

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01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:12,760
Speaker 1: pass blocking, I think that's that's gonna be a work

2276
01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:15,240
Speaker 1: in progress. I feel good about Dawkins on the one side,

2277
01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:19,120
Speaker 1: handling blitz has been an issue in training camp against

2278
01:46:19,160 --> 01:46:22,920
Speaker 1: the Bills defense. You know, so I think we're gonna

2279
01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:25,120
Speaker 1: that's a wait and see. That's really a wait and see.

2280
01:46:25,160 --> 01:46:29,400
Speaker 1: And I'm hopeful that this offensive line is somewhere between

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01:46:31,320 --> 01:46:35,160
Speaker 1: fourteen and sixteen somewhere in there. Twelve to fifteen would

2282
01:46:35,200 --> 01:46:37,760
Speaker 1: be pretty good. I'd be pretty happy with that. You

2283
01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:39,360
Speaker 1: can win a lot of games with an offensive line

2284
01:46:39,439 --> 01:46:42,000
Speaker 1: ranked twelve, thirteenth, fourteenth in this league. Tell me a

2285
01:46:42,040 --> 01:46:44,160
Speaker 1: little bit about who are the two if say it's

2286
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:53,200
Speaker 1: say it's Dim Dawkins, Ducas, Bodine, Miller and Mills. Who

2287
01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:55,479
Speaker 1: are the two new guys that are Well, your center

2288
01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:58,120
Speaker 1: is new because it's not Eric Wood, and your right

2289
01:46:58,160 --> 01:47:00,920
Speaker 1: guard is new because it's not Glad Ducas. Bodine has

2290
01:47:00,960 --> 01:47:04,400
Speaker 1: started like corrects every game of his but He's playing

2291
01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:05,960
Speaker 1: with two new guys on either side of him that

2292
01:47:06,000 --> 01:47:07,680
Speaker 1: he's never played with before. I get you, you know

2293
01:47:07,720 --> 01:47:09,720
Speaker 1: what I mean. But Miller's back in the lineup, and

2294
01:47:09,760 --> 01:47:11,280
Speaker 1: he does have the same guy on the right side

2295
01:47:11,280 --> 01:47:12,920
Speaker 1: when he went out of the lineup, but the guy

2296
01:47:12,960 --> 01:47:15,080
Speaker 1: on the left is new. So you know that all

2297
01:47:15,160 --> 01:47:18,000
Speaker 1: takes weaving together. I mean, it doesn't. You don't just go, Okay,

2298
01:47:18,120 --> 01:47:20,080
Speaker 1: let's go, let's go get him guys. You know. Yeah,

2299
01:47:20,200 --> 01:47:22,800
Speaker 1: I still think though, I mean, vlad Duke cost would

2300
01:47:22,800 --> 01:47:24,759
Speaker 1: be the only guy I would consider playing a different position.

2301
01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:26,439
Speaker 1: He went from right guard to left guard, and that's

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01:47:26,479 --> 01:47:31,719
Speaker 1: just a mirrored image. Bodine is playing the exact same spot,

2303
01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:34,040
Speaker 1: and I think Roy would be too. He played centers.

2304
01:47:34,240 --> 01:47:36,800
Speaker 1: He plays center as much as anything in his time here.

2305
01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:39,760
Speaker 1: Even though Eric Wood was there, he practiced and is.

2306
01:47:40,280 --> 01:47:43,080
Speaker 1: He's probably his veteran a player on the offensive line

2307
01:47:43,120 --> 01:47:47,400
Speaker 1: as anybody. So I think, yeah, I would tend to

2308
01:47:47,439 --> 01:47:49,719
Speaker 1: be on the more optimistic side side for the offensive

2309
01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:51,080
Speaker 1: line and what they're going to be able to do,

2310
01:47:51,520 --> 01:47:53,559
Speaker 1: no question about it. They're run blocking is better than

2311
01:47:53,560 --> 01:47:56,120
Speaker 1: their pass blocking at this point. I think that comes

2312
01:47:56,160 --> 01:48:00,760
Speaker 1: down to new protection schemes and new and new guys

2313
01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:02,920
Speaker 1: behind them, and in most cases it's easier, is it

2314
01:48:03,040 --> 01:48:04,840
Speaker 1: not to run block than pass. Well, they grow up

2315
01:48:04,920 --> 01:48:07,040
Speaker 1: doing it, you know, nobody throws the ball at peewee,

2316
01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:08,760
Speaker 1: you know, I mean they grow up doing And that's

2317
01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:11,000
Speaker 1: it's also easier to go forward than backwards. So so.

2318
01:48:11,320 --> 01:48:13,160
Speaker 1: And I also think the running backs and those guys

2319
01:48:13,200 --> 01:48:14,439
Speaker 1: behind them are have a little bit to do with

2320
01:48:14,479 --> 01:48:16,479
Speaker 1: the blitz pick up and how the problems they're having

2321
01:48:16,520 --> 01:48:18,599
Speaker 1: as well. It's not all about the guys up. That's valid.

2322
01:48:18,680 --> 01:48:20,160
Speaker 1: That is a valid point. You gotta call on the

2323
01:48:20,200 --> 01:48:23,360
Speaker 1: line from Patrick in La Los Angeles? Patrick, is that

2324
01:48:23,400 --> 01:48:28,519
Speaker 1: where you are? Yees? Sir? Great? Thanks calling in go ahead?

2325
01:48:28,880 --> 01:48:31,719
Speaker 1: Ever so sorry? Um, have you ever been more excited

2326
01:48:31,840 --> 01:48:37,160
Speaker 1: about a preseason game in about two decades? No? No,

2327
01:48:37,439 --> 01:48:40,640
Speaker 1: I have not, I have not. No. I agree with you.

2328
01:48:40,760 --> 01:48:45,200
Speaker 1: Don't get excited to do Chris, except you got to

2329
01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:47,120
Speaker 1: keep that even you turn it up a little bit.

2330
01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:49,280
Speaker 1: How you do get excited on this? Do get excited

2331
01:48:49,320 --> 01:48:51,040
Speaker 1: on the show, you know? But this this game? Have

2332
01:48:51,120 --> 01:48:53,920
Speaker 1: you're been more excited about a preseason game? Well? I

2333
01:48:54,040 --> 01:48:57,160
Speaker 1: think the the not only don't go analymic I mean

2334
01:48:57,479 --> 01:49:01,320
Speaker 1: the question. You can admit it. It's fine. It's a

2335
01:49:01,400 --> 01:49:03,240
Speaker 1: very good matchup with a ton of storylines. You know,

2336
01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:07,920
Speaker 1: it's Tyrod, it's Baker Mayfield. It's yeah, there's a lot,

2337
01:49:08,200 --> 01:49:10,920
Speaker 1: there's a lot to have a lot to discussing. Let

2338
01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:12,439
Speaker 1: me give you another layer of the onion that you

2339
01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:14,640
Speaker 1: haven't thought about. A J. McCarron was traded to the

2340
01:49:15,200 --> 01:49:18,000
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns for a two and a three, and the

2341
01:49:18,120 --> 01:49:21,400
Speaker 1: Browns forgot to send in the facts. Now, think about that,

2342
01:49:23,160 --> 01:49:27,960
Speaker 1: A J. McCarroll, Tyrod Taylor believe now because of that,

2343
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:32,760
Speaker 1: you draft, they draft Baker Mayfield, and the Bills draft

2344
01:49:32,840 --> 01:49:35,000
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Because that trade doesn't go through, all that

2345
01:49:35,080 --> 01:49:37,800
Speaker 1: falls into place because the draft picks, they might have

2346
01:49:37,840 --> 01:49:40,200
Speaker 1: still been drafting for a quarterback anyway. Because to me,

2347
01:49:41,120 --> 01:49:43,240
Speaker 1: to me, that was a that was a foolish trade

2348
01:49:43,280 --> 01:49:45,080
Speaker 1: from the word go for the Browns, They're lucky they

2349
01:49:45,280 --> 01:49:48,920
Speaker 1: blew it because to pay a two and a three

2350
01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:53,080
Speaker 1: for a career backup knowing he was going to be

2351
01:49:53,120 --> 01:49:56,040
Speaker 1: a free agent at the end of the year. I mean,

2352
01:49:56,400 --> 01:49:59,320
Speaker 1: are you guaranteed if you're the Browns, can you guarantee

2353
01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:01,519
Speaker 1: that anybody in the final year of their contract is

2354
01:50:01,560 --> 01:50:04,200
Speaker 1: hanging around. Yeah, but you gotta know too, they signed him,

2355
01:50:04,240 --> 01:50:06,840
Speaker 1: The Bills signed him for you know, two years seven

2356
01:50:06,920 --> 01:50:09,160
Speaker 1: point five a year. That's you know, if you think

2357
01:50:09,200 --> 01:50:11,320
Speaker 1: the brown the Browns could have signed him for that, hey,

2358
01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:14,240
Speaker 1: well they traded for him. They kind of they would

2359
01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:15,760
Speaker 1: have inherited, they would have. They would have had to

2360
01:50:15,800 --> 01:50:17,880
Speaker 1: extend him with that, right, the same deal and if

2361
01:50:17,880 --> 01:50:20,000
Speaker 1: there's guarantees he's staying though, right, they might have been.

2362
01:50:20,080 --> 01:50:22,960
Speaker 1: They might have. Uh, well, listen, if you're a j mccaren,

2363
01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:24,760
Speaker 1: where do you think you're gonna go to the play

2364
01:50:24,840 --> 01:50:27,519
Speaker 1: start to sell? That's it, I mean, he's yeah, he

2365
01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:31,000
Speaker 1: would have been putting down roots here. We're all excited

2366
01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:34,080
Speaker 1: about this preseason game, and yet Chris earlier on the show,

2367
01:50:34,520 --> 01:50:37,200
Speaker 1: Steve pointed out something that could happen that would ruin

2368
01:50:37,400 --> 01:50:41,120
Speaker 1: our buzz, and that's thunderstorm that might delay the game. Yeah,

2369
01:50:41,240 --> 01:50:43,599
Speaker 1: the forecast is not good. Is not to keeping track

2370
01:50:43,640 --> 01:50:47,559
Speaker 1: of it. I know, I know. Warm up warm ups

2371
01:50:47,560 --> 01:50:49,760
Speaker 1: are not going to be good. Look outside, look at

2372
01:50:49,800 --> 01:50:54,240
Speaker 1: your phone. Warm up, cloudy, Trust your phone or you're lying.

2373
01:50:54,320 --> 01:50:56,120
Speaker 1: I know. The five o'clock hour is supposed to be

2374
01:50:56,200 --> 01:51:00,360
Speaker 1: pretty bad. Um, and it's and it's natural grass, so

2375
01:51:00,520 --> 01:51:02,960
Speaker 1: it's that could be bad. It could be SOUPI out

2376
01:51:02,960 --> 01:51:08,280
Speaker 1: there tonight, good? That would that would absolutely reek. Yeah,

2377
01:51:08,360 --> 01:51:10,479
Speaker 1: if we got out there for all these storylines and

2378
01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:14,479
Speaker 1: all this all and you know you end up in

2379
01:51:14,720 --> 01:51:17,800
Speaker 1: mud wrestling, that's like, come on, call on the line

2380
01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:19,920
Speaker 1: from Pat in South Buffalo. Go ahead, Pat, you're on

2381
01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:24,320
Speaker 1: the ear. Hey you guys, how you doing? Okay, good

2382
01:51:24,560 --> 01:51:27,720
Speaker 1: singer and washer on TV. Uh help me get through

2383
01:51:27,720 --> 01:51:30,560
Speaker 1: the day when my kids taking a nap. Um. I

2384
01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:34,519
Speaker 1: just wanted to comment in terms of the disagreement you

2385
01:51:34,640 --> 01:51:36,879
Speaker 1: and Steve seemed to have in terms of the quarterback

2386
01:51:37,000 --> 01:51:42,200
Speaker 1: situation Jay okay, Uh, Josh to start right away and

2387
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:44,920
Speaker 1: Steve you kind of want to foster him, and I

2388
01:51:45,000 --> 01:51:47,519
Speaker 1: feel like the tension is very palpable buying TV. I

2389
01:51:47,640 --> 01:51:50,640
Speaker 1: just wanted to let you get Oh, that's tense worthy. No,

2390
01:51:50,920 --> 01:51:54,320
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Let me let me clarify. Pat. I'm

2391
01:51:54,360 --> 01:51:58,080
Speaker 1: not saying start Josh right away. I'm saying start them tonight.

2392
01:51:58,120 --> 01:51:59,800
Speaker 1: I don't think it's happening tonight, by the way, but

2393
01:52:00,120 --> 01:52:02,479
Speaker 1: my contention for a week now has been start them tonight.

2394
01:52:02,560 --> 01:52:05,800
Speaker 1: This game week two, preseason two. Let's see if he

2395
01:52:05,880 --> 01:52:09,640
Speaker 1: can start in September ninth. And if we've disagreed on that,

2396
01:52:09,720 --> 01:52:12,400
Speaker 1: I guess we have. Yeah, we've consistently. I've said be

2397
01:52:12,479 --> 01:52:14,760
Speaker 1: more careful with him, and you've said, listen, let's see

2398
01:52:14,760 --> 01:52:17,920
Speaker 1: what he is. Yeah, I guess their attention. I don't

2399
01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:21,320
Speaker 1: know you because I'm not paying attention to down you know,

2400
01:52:21,760 --> 01:52:23,800
Speaker 1: deep down you know I'm right. He gives you some

2401
01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:27,360
Speaker 1: intense But Pet, go ahead. We had another question, or

2402
01:52:27,560 --> 01:52:29,360
Speaker 1: is that it you want to? Pat? Do you want

2403
01:52:29,360 --> 01:52:32,439
Speaker 1: to mediate between Steve and I? I had a question

2404
01:52:32,520 --> 01:52:35,439
Speaker 1: in regard to la Sean McCoy um. As we saw

2405
01:52:35,560 --> 01:52:40,360
Speaker 1: with the James Winston incident and others, Roger Goodell seems

2406
01:52:40,400 --> 01:52:44,439
Speaker 1: to punish before all the cards are on the table.

2407
01:52:44,600 --> 01:52:49,240
Speaker 1: And sometimes it's just conduct, it's detrimental possibly, And I'm

2408
01:52:49,240 --> 01:52:54,360
Speaker 1: wondering if you guys foresee a situation where um shady

2409
01:52:54,479 --> 01:52:58,080
Speaker 1: could be punished during this season and possibly missed some games.

2410
01:52:58,120 --> 01:53:00,639
Speaker 1: And I'll hang up the list and thanks again, Yeah, okay,

2411
01:53:00,840 --> 01:53:02,960
Speaker 1: thanks Pat. I want to get these guys and I

2412
01:53:03,080 --> 01:53:06,000
Speaker 1: don't see that and uh, you know Brandon Bean and

2413
01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:08,679
Speaker 1: the uh at the press conference had opened training camp,

2414
01:53:08,840 --> 01:53:12,840
Speaker 1: was pretty pretty certain that that was not gonna happen,

2415
01:53:12,920 --> 01:53:14,960
Speaker 1: that the league was not gonna jump in and interrupt

2416
01:53:15,600 --> 01:53:18,559
Speaker 1: the McCoy season or the Bills planning for McCoy because

2417
01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:21,280
Speaker 1: of this incident. I don't want to make of that incident. Um,

2418
01:53:22,800 --> 01:53:25,160
Speaker 1: something happened. Nobody knows whether there have been no criminal

2419
01:53:25,280 --> 01:53:27,080
Speaker 1: charges in what four or five weeks now, I don't

2420
01:53:27,120 --> 01:53:30,200
Speaker 1: know what to make of it. Now she's now it's

2421
01:53:30,200 --> 01:53:34,040
Speaker 1: a civil Wawson. It looks like a bad breakup, it does.

2422
01:53:34,200 --> 01:53:36,680
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it was, and it was tragic what

2423
01:53:36,760 --> 01:53:39,720
Speaker 1: happened to her, and I'm I feel for my heart

2424
01:53:39,720 --> 01:53:42,320
Speaker 1: breaks for somebody going through that. But you know, and

2425
01:53:42,439 --> 01:53:45,840
Speaker 1: it is a mess. But I don't know if you're

2426
01:53:46,040 --> 01:53:48,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're gonna look at Lashawn and say,

2427
01:53:48,280 --> 01:53:52,120
Speaker 1: it'd be interesting to know the criteria from the league

2428
01:53:52,160 --> 01:53:54,680
Speaker 1: that would put it over the top to the point

2429
01:53:54,720 --> 01:53:57,680
Speaker 1: where they would feel it necessary to take some actions.

2430
01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:00,680
Speaker 1: Sixty four dollars Quite, everybody's what's it's a lot more

2431
01:54:00,720 --> 01:54:04,400
Speaker 1: than right? But but yeah, I mean it's like it's

2432
01:54:04,439 --> 01:54:06,839
Speaker 1: always seems like it's a moving target. And I understand

2433
01:54:06,880 --> 01:54:11,879
Speaker 1: that every case is different, um, but the team certainly

2434
01:54:11,960 --> 01:54:16,519
Speaker 1: hasn't made it sound like their level of concern has

2435
01:54:16,640 --> 01:54:19,720
Speaker 1: changed from the outset of training camp. And Murph and

2436
01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:21,759
Speaker 1: I were there for that press conference. It was evident

2437
01:54:21,840 --> 01:54:25,920
Speaker 1: to us that there wasn't any grave concern that McCoy

2438
01:54:26,080 --> 01:54:29,040
Speaker 1: was not going to be here through training camp, into

2439
01:54:29,080 --> 01:54:32,200
Speaker 1: the preseason, into the regular season. So unless there is

2440
01:54:32,280 --> 01:54:34,840
Speaker 1: some and I really don't want to use this term,

2441
01:54:34,880 --> 01:54:36,520
Speaker 1: but I can't think of a better one. Smoking gun,

2442
01:54:37,080 --> 01:54:41,440
Speaker 1: you know, where the police investigation turns up some unforeseen

2443
01:54:41,600 --> 01:54:46,560
Speaker 1: evidence that comes to light. You know, I think, yeah,

2444
01:54:46,560 --> 01:54:48,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna keep on keeping on. And I and I

2445
01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:50,440
Speaker 1: at that that was at that same conference, and it said, listen,

2446
01:54:50,440 --> 01:54:54,040
Speaker 1: they've talked to everybody that the police involved, the parties

2447
01:54:54,080 --> 01:54:57,040
Speaker 1: involved that would speak to them, the league. The league

2448
01:54:57,040 --> 01:54:58,400
Speaker 1: has talked to the Bills. The Bills have talked to

2449
01:54:58,400 --> 01:55:00,880
Speaker 1: the league. They can't talk. They've gone all over all

2450
01:55:00,920 --> 01:55:04,640
Speaker 1: the representations on both sides of everything, and they've they're

2451
01:55:04,640 --> 01:55:06,600
Speaker 1: just like, there's nothing they're gonna do. I mean, it's

2452
01:55:06,640 --> 01:55:09,840
Speaker 1: just a moot point at this at this time, a

2453
01:55:10,240 --> 01:55:12,640
Speaker 1: call from Mike and Jamestown. Hello, Mike, Welcome to the show,

2454
01:55:13,400 --> 01:55:21,879
Speaker 1: Hey us, Mike, I mean, this is Mike from Jamestown,

2455
01:55:21,960 --> 01:55:24,040
Speaker 1: and I'm just like saying, the game's gonna be a

2456
01:55:24,080 --> 01:55:30,640
Speaker 1: tough against Cleveland. It's gonna be tough against Cleveland. You said, yeah,

2457
01:55:30,800 --> 01:55:34,640
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough against Cleveland because Tommy. Why do

2458
01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:38,720
Speaker 1: you think that, Mike? Why because Tyrod Taylor in place

2459
01:55:38,800 --> 01:55:44,160
Speaker 1: for Cleveland Browns. Do you think Tyrod's going to be

2460
01:55:44,200 --> 01:55:46,200
Speaker 1: the difference in this game? You think he'll play long

2461
01:55:46,360 --> 01:55:49,280
Speaker 1: enough to make that difference, or you think what he's

2462
01:55:49,320 --> 01:55:54,000
Speaker 1: gonna inspire the Browns to play better? Oh? Well after

2463
01:55:54,080 --> 01:55:57,520
Speaker 1: they you know, after last year's season they went ohen sixteen.

2464
01:55:57,600 --> 01:55:59,960
Speaker 1: But I think they're gonna I would not want to

2465
01:56:00,040 --> 01:56:03,800
Speaker 1: see them do that again. Well, no one wants. I

2466
01:56:03,840 --> 01:56:05,920
Speaker 1: don't think anybody wants to see that again. Not even

2467
01:56:05,960 --> 01:56:07,360
Speaker 1: good for the league. I don't even I don't know

2468
01:56:07,400 --> 01:56:10,840
Speaker 1: how good, how much better Cleveland Isla chris Um. I

2469
01:56:10,920 --> 01:56:12,960
Speaker 1: see the names, I see the draft picks, I see

2470
01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:15,880
Speaker 1: the first rounders. I just don't know that they're ready

2471
01:56:15,920 --> 01:56:18,880
Speaker 1: to put it together into one nice, tidy package. Having

2472
01:56:19,280 --> 01:56:23,160
Speaker 1: having seen the culture change here in Buffalo under coach McDermott,

2473
01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:27,160
Speaker 1: and how he and Brandon being are in lockstep and

2474
01:56:27,400 --> 01:56:30,400
Speaker 1: perfectly aligned in what the plan and the vision is

2475
01:56:30,520 --> 01:56:33,000
Speaker 1: for this team, which is a long term plan, it's

2476
01:56:33,040 --> 01:56:36,600
Speaker 1: not a short term one. And then, and granted this

2477
01:56:36,720 --> 01:56:40,400
Speaker 1: is only exposure from a Hard Knocks episode perspective, but

2478
01:56:40,600 --> 01:56:42,880
Speaker 1: some of the behind the scenes stuff and just seeing

2479
01:56:42,920 --> 01:56:46,440
Speaker 1: the interaction between Hugh Jackson and his players, or the

2480
01:56:46,520 --> 01:56:51,000
Speaker 1: interaction between Hugh Jackson and John Dorsey in comparison, or

2481
01:56:51,040 --> 01:56:55,120
Speaker 1: the coordinators or the coordinators in comparison, it looks like

2482
01:56:55,200 --> 01:56:58,400
Speaker 1: a hot mess. Yeah. I mean, it looks dysfunctional again

2483
01:56:58,600 --> 01:57:02,600
Speaker 1: from afar from a far and it doesn't matter how

2484
01:57:02,720 --> 01:57:05,880
Speaker 1: much talent you've accumulated. It doesn't mean a hill of

2485
01:57:05,960 --> 01:57:10,040
Speaker 1: beans if you don't have players in lockstep with their

2486
01:57:10,080 --> 01:57:13,440
Speaker 1: coaching staff in terms of expectations, work ethic and all

2487
01:57:13,480 --> 01:57:18,080
Speaker 1: of those things. And it looks sorely absent in the

2488
01:57:18,160 --> 01:57:22,280
Speaker 1: Browns organization. But it makes again for an interesting game tonight,

2489
01:57:22,320 --> 01:57:25,280
Speaker 1: doesn't it. Oh, it'll be in there, dysfunction. They're Hard Knocks,

2490
01:57:25,360 --> 01:57:28,640
Speaker 1: does Briant here in town yesterday? I mean, there's a

2491
01:57:28,680 --> 01:57:30,680
Speaker 1: lot going on on both sides, including the Browns, to

2492
01:57:30,760 --> 01:57:33,320
Speaker 1: make this an intriguing game. Tell me about the coverage

2493
01:57:33,360 --> 01:57:35,320
Speaker 1: that you provide on Buffalo Bills dot Com, end on

2494
01:57:35,400 --> 01:57:37,960
Speaker 1: Twitter tonight during the game day. What do you put up? Yeah, so,

2495
01:57:38,200 --> 01:57:39,880
Speaker 1: I mean, right now we've got the five players to

2496
01:57:39,960 --> 01:57:42,200
Speaker 1: watch tonight that kind of rolls over and changes and

2497
01:57:42,280 --> 01:57:47,040
Speaker 1: you read Breon Borders. Oh, Corey Coleman is one. Corey

2498
01:57:47,120 --> 01:57:50,800
Speaker 1: Coleman's a Jones Za Okay, but Breon Borders is a

2499
01:57:50,840 --> 01:57:53,800
Speaker 1: corner that has kind of he's kind of pushed himself

2500
01:57:53,840 --> 01:57:55,760
Speaker 1: into the conversation to be one of the top four

2501
01:57:55,840 --> 01:57:59,240
Speaker 1: corners on this team. This week in practice, Laffiette Pitts

2502
01:57:59,240 --> 01:58:02,480
Speaker 1: slid down to third team and Borders assumed his spot

2503
01:58:02,840 --> 01:58:04,840
Speaker 1: at the left corner roll. So it's a big game

2504
01:58:04,920 --> 01:58:06,840
Speaker 1: for him. If he can really kind of play the

2505
01:58:06,920 --> 01:58:11,160
Speaker 1: way he practiced this past week, he's really going to

2506
01:58:11,200 --> 01:58:12,840
Speaker 1: be in the mix there. He's really going to be

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01:58:12,920 --> 01:58:16,200
Speaker 1: in the mix. And then who else did I have

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01:58:16,280 --> 01:58:22,720
Speaker 1: on the list? I had Aligneman DeAndre Wesley. Yeah, he's

2509
01:58:22,720 --> 01:58:24,920
Speaker 1: pushing Marshall Newhouse to be the swing tackle on this

2510
01:58:25,080 --> 01:58:27,880
Speaker 1: roster and he I expect him to be second team

2511
01:58:27,960 --> 01:58:30,640
Speaker 1: right tackle tonight. Jersey number seventy four for anybody that

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01:58:30,720 --> 01:58:33,080
Speaker 1: wants to take a look at him, and he's got

2513
01:58:33,120 --> 01:58:36,000
Speaker 1: a lot of the tools there. I just don't think

2514
01:58:36,640 --> 01:58:40,960
Speaker 1: his game has reached critical mass to the point where

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01:58:41,120 --> 01:58:44,040
Speaker 1: coach McDermott says, I'm good with this kid, I can

2516
01:58:44,080 --> 01:58:47,920
Speaker 1: trust him. I don't think he's there yet. So there's

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01:58:47,920 --> 01:58:49,760
Speaker 1: still some ground to cover before we get to the

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01:58:49,840 --> 01:58:51,720
Speaker 1: end of the preseason, and it may be new house

2519
01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:54,120
Speaker 1: come the start of the year. But it wouldn't shock

2520
01:58:54,240 --> 01:58:57,400
Speaker 1: me if Wesley's not ready at the start of the

2521
01:58:57,440 --> 01:58:59,160
Speaker 1: year to be the swing tackle on this team. If

2522
01:58:59,240 --> 01:59:01,920
Speaker 1: by the time we get to mid season that's the case,

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01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:05,600
Speaker 1: and then Matt Milano's the other guy. Because Milano did

2524
01:59:05,680 --> 01:59:08,640
Speaker 1: not have a very good preseason outing number one, and

2525
01:59:08,800 --> 01:59:11,280
Speaker 1: that was reflected in how the reps went this week

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01:59:11,360 --> 01:59:14,240
Speaker 1: in training camp. Ramone Humber is getting rotated in at

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01:59:14,320 --> 01:59:17,480
Speaker 1: the week's side linebacker and then Keenan Robinson is getting

2528
01:59:17,560 --> 01:59:20,320
Speaker 1: rotated in at the week's side linebacker position. It was

2529
01:59:20,360 --> 01:59:23,120
Speaker 1: a wake up call week for Matt Milano. Hey, you

2530
01:59:23,240 --> 01:59:25,440
Speaker 1: can't put that kind of play on tape. We're counting

2531
01:59:25,480 --> 01:59:26,920
Speaker 1: on you to be a starter for us. If you're

2532
01:59:26,920 --> 01:59:28,760
Speaker 1: not ready, we're gonna go back to one of the veterans,

2533
01:59:29,160 --> 01:59:31,400
Speaker 1: and so I want to see if Mulano got the

2534
01:59:31,440 --> 01:59:34,160
Speaker 1: message this week. So you'll have complete coverage during the

2535
01:59:34,240 --> 01:59:36,720
Speaker 1: game on the website and on Twitter. Right I'll be tweeting,

2536
01:59:36,760 --> 01:59:38,600
Speaker 1: and yeah, we'll have our game recap right when the

2537
01:59:38,680 --> 01:59:40,920
Speaker 1: final gun sounds. That'll be upright away. And then we'll

2538
01:59:40,960 --> 01:59:43,880
Speaker 1: have three things we learned from tonight's game, and then

2539
01:59:43,920 --> 01:59:47,280
Speaker 1: we'll have some short feature story on someone that had

2540
01:59:47,280 --> 01:59:50,000
Speaker 1: a pretty good outings the game streaming line on Buffalo

2541
01:59:50,040 --> 01:59:54,760
Speaker 1: bills dot Com. Yes, really, boom that we're in the

2542
01:59:54,800 --> 01:59:57,080
Speaker 1: twenty first century. Bro's on the radio. Two but it

2543
01:59:57,200 --> 02:00:01,280
Speaker 1: is on the radio. Radio is dead? Well, then what

2544
02:00:01,360 --> 02:00:07,800
Speaker 1: are you doing here? Guy? Thanks Brownie, Thank you, great scene.

2545
02:00:07,920 --> 02:00:10,480
Speaker 1: Many Chris Brown. There is tension between this now that

2546
02:00:10,640 --> 02:00:13,640
Speaker 1: now that I do not have a bouncer's body. Guys,

2547
02:00:13,760 --> 02:00:16,880
Speaker 1: I'm from La from La right, No, Pat from South

2548
02:00:16,960 --> 02:00:21,240
Speaker 1: Buffalo almost Thanks Pat, Thanks Chris, Chris Brown, Bills Insider,

2549
02:00:21,280 --> 02:00:23,240
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills dot Com. Steve and I back with more

2550
02:00:23,600 --> 02:00:35,240
Speaker 1: one Bills Live from Cleveland on Buffalo Bills Radio. In

2551
02:00:35,360 --> 02:00:38,040
Speaker 1: that room, welcome to the show. Steve and I discussing

2552
02:00:38,120 --> 02:00:41,640
Speaker 1: tension on the air off the Earth. I don't think

2553
02:00:41,680 --> 02:00:43,560
Speaker 1: it's in the break. In the break, during the break,

2554
02:00:43,840 --> 02:00:46,040
Speaker 1: welcome back, We're here until three one Bills Live. We

2555
02:00:46,120 --> 02:00:47,880
Speaker 1: got the game coming up at the seventh third. I

2556
02:00:47,880 --> 02:00:50,200
Speaker 1: didn't know that the game is streaming, uh live on

2557
02:00:50,280 --> 02:00:52,960
Speaker 1: Buffalo only in the Buffalo market though. They Well, the

2558
02:00:53,000 --> 02:00:55,320
Speaker 1: places where like upstate where the game would you get

2559
02:00:55,320 --> 02:00:58,440
Speaker 1: it on TV? You can get it on online, but

2560
02:00:58,560 --> 02:01:01,560
Speaker 1: if you're like in Hawaii, your La or Texas, you can't.

2561
02:01:01,880 --> 02:01:03,720
Speaker 1: Right then that's that goes back to like the old

2562
02:01:03,760 --> 02:01:06,720
Speaker 1: blackout rules and stuff like that, right, I mean, that's yeah,

2563
02:01:06,760 --> 02:01:08,240
Speaker 1: that's what it is. I don't know if it's a

2564
02:01:08,280 --> 02:01:10,680
Speaker 1: black no. In this case. They're trying to protect the

2565
02:01:10,800 --> 02:01:13,400
Speaker 1: national broadcast. They're trying to protect those, but they're also

2566
02:01:13,680 --> 02:01:16,160
Speaker 1: trying to get those people in those markets like Texas,

2567
02:01:16,240 --> 02:01:18,800
Speaker 1: in LA and Arizona and Hawaii and all those other places.

2568
02:01:19,120 --> 02:01:21,480
Speaker 1: They're trying to get them to buy the ticket NFL tickets.

2569
02:01:21,480 --> 02:01:23,440
Speaker 1: They're protecting it so that they can so they just

2570
02:01:23,560 --> 02:01:26,440
Speaker 1: sell that instead of free online games on the radio. Two.

2571
02:01:26,480 --> 02:01:28,960
Speaker 1: If you'd like to hear the broadcast myself. Mark Kelso

2572
02:01:29,040 --> 02:01:31,360
Speaker 1: sal on the sidelines for the Bills and the Browns

2573
02:01:31,440 --> 02:01:33,720
Speaker 1: seven thirty. What are you expecting tonight? What are you

2574
02:01:33,760 --> 02:01:35,640
Speaker 1: looking for tonight? That's been our question of the day.

2575
02:01:35,920 --> 02:01:37,920
Speaker 1: Give us a call eight oh three oh five fifty

2576
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Speaker 1: and toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two five.

2577
02:01:41,360 --> 02:01:43,360
Speaker 1: Let's work in a call or two here. In the

2578
02:01:43,440 --> 02:01:46,880
Speaker 1: remaining minutes of the show, Danny from Beautiful Pittsford, New York, Danny,

2579
02:01:46,920 --> 02:01:50,120
Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air. Hey John, Steve, how's

2580
02:01:50,120 --> 02:01:54,960
Speaker 1: it going, guys? Good? So I just want to start out.

2581
02:01:55,000 --> 02:01:57,280
Speaker 1: You know, everyone calls in and they say, I'll Steve

2582
02:01:57,400 --> 02:01:59,880
Speaker 1: the Hall of Famer, John, You're a Hall of Famer

2583
02:02:00,040 --> 02:02:03,720
Speaker 1: too in my book. Oh maybe we're gonna have a

2584
02:02:03,760 --> 02:02:06,080
Speaker 1: separate count. I was just gonna drink when you said

2585
02:02:06,080 --> 02:02:07,560
Speaker 1: Steve's Hall of Famer. He is a Hall of Fame

2586
02:02:07,640 --> 02:02:10,880
Speaker 1: caliber player. I just want to get your guys thoughts

2587
02:02:11,120 --> 02:02:14,960
Speaker 1: on the linebacking corps other than I mean, Edmunds is

2588
02:02:15,080 --> 02:02:17,760
Speaker 1: a project because he's a rookie. But I don't know

2589
02:02:17,880 --> 02:02:23,880
Speaker 1: about anyone besides him. Yeah, it's a good question. And

2590
02:02:24,000 --> 02:02:25,720
Speaker 1: Brownie brought it up just a few minutes ago in

2591
02:02:25,760 --> 02:02:29,400
Speaker 1: the last the last segment. He said, you know a

2592
02:02:29,480 --> 02:02:31,920
Speaker 1: guy like Matt Milano needs to play better. Um, he's

2593
02:02:31,960 --> 02:02:36,920
Speaker 1: got guys behind him like Ramone Humber, Keenan Robinson, Tanner Vallejo, uh,

2594
02:02:37,040 --> 02:02:40,680
Speaker 1: Dion Lacy Julius. Stanford's playing inside and so is Tanner Valajo.

2595
02:02:40,760 --> 02:02:43,640
Speaker 1: But all these guys, Um, you know, they're looking for

2596
02:02:43,880 --> 02:02:47,760
Speaker 1: a big, athletic pass rusher, also a pass defender. Uh.

2597
02:02:47,840 --> 02:02:51,840
Speaker 1: They're looking for a big, strong athlete. Milano played well,

2598
02:02:51,920 --> 02:02:53,880
Speaker 1: and I think they liked him last year when they

2599
02:02:53,960 --> 02:02:55,680
Speaker 1: he made the team. They liked what he brought to

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02:02:55,720 --> 02:02:59,720
Speaker 1: the table. He's a smart, instinctive football player. Uh. You know,

2601
02:02:59,760 --> 02:03:02,880
Speaker 1: I think if there's somebody who's gonna jump in there

2602
02:03:02,920 --> 02:03:04,360
Speaker 1: and take his spot, it's going to be a guy

2603
02:03:04,360 --> 02:03:07,680
Speaker 1: who's a better athlete. Here's what I think about Matt Milano.

2604
02:03:07,720 --> 02:03:09,520
Speaker 1: And it's a good question. Thank you very much for calling.

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02:03:10,280 --> 02:03:12,720
Speaker 1: He's not playing poorly. He is who he is, and

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02:03:12,840 --> 02:03:15,400
Speaker 1: what he is is kind of an undersized former college

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02:03:15,440 --> 02:03:18,800
Speaker 1: safety who's smart and somewhat athletic and can run around

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02:03:18,800 --> 02:03:21,240
Speaker 1: a little bit. But what he is not is physical

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02:03:21,400 --> 02:03:24,200
Speaker 1: or a big hitter or you know, a great asset

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02:03:24,200 --> 02:03:26,240
Speaker 1: against the run. He is who he is. They are

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02:03:26,320 --> 02:03:28,760
Speaker 1: looking and I don't Again, this goes back to the

2612
02:03:28,840 --> 02:03:31,200
Speaker 1: tight end. They're looking at other guys who might be

2613
02:03:31,280 --> 02:03:32,760
Speaker 1: able to fill in over there, and that's kind of

2614
02:03:32,760 --> 02:03:35,480
Speaker 1: what Brownie brought up a minute ago. And among those

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02:03:35,840 --> 02:03:38,800
Speaker 1: I think is Keenan Robinson, a couple of others who

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02:03:38,880 --> 02:03:40,520
Speaker 1: might be able to promote. Hummer is going to get

2617
02:03:40,520 --> 02:03:43,880
Speaker 1: a crack and nothing is settled yet. Milano's not out,

2618
02:03:43,920 --> 02:03:46,480
Speaker 1: but I do think they're looking They're looking at somebody

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02:03:46,520 --> 02:03:49,360
Speaker 1: who is more of a complete package, because I don't

2620
02:03:49,400 --> 02:03:52,520
Speaker 1: think Matt Milano has played poorly. He just is who

2621
02:03:52,560 --> 02:03:55,600
Speaker 1: he is. Steve. He's a smaller former college safety, and

2622
02:03:55,720 --> 02:03:57,840
Speaker 1: that's what I think has got him not worried, but

2623
02:03:58,320 --> 02:04:00,440
Speaker 1: looking to get better. They do this every summer. They're

2624
02:04:00,480 --> 02:04:02,160
Speaker 1: looking to get better. Yeah, and you and you're looking

2625
02:04:02,200 --> 02:04:05,600
Speaker 1: at guys who were talking about Ramonte Humber is a

2626
02:04:05,960 --> 02:04:09,240
Speaker 1: two twenty guy who's he started the Jacksonville game last

2627
02:04:09,320 --> 02:04:13,720
Speaker 1: year in the playoffs for the team. Uh And you know,

2628
02:04:13,800 --> 02:04:15,600
Speaker 1: then you've got you go down the list of guys

2629
02:04:15,640 --> 02:04:19,040
Speaker 1: and they're just they're bigger dudes. I mean, that's just it.

2630
02:04:19,200 --> 02:04:21,520
Speaker 1: And if Malano's gonna make he's got to play instinctive

2631
02:04:21,520 --> 02:04:23,880
Speaker 1: you've got to play fast and he's got to win

2632
02:04:24,000 --> 02:04:27,800
Speaker 1: some physical matchups, and if he can continue to do that,

2633
02:04:28,280 --> 02:04:30,360
Speaker 1: he'll be all right. I mean, there's no question about it.

2634
02:04:30,960 --> 02:04:32,720
Speaker 1: He made some good plays for the Bills last year,

2635
02:04:32,760 --> 02:04:34,760
Speaker 1: and a lot of people are you know, fans are

2636
02:04:34,840 --> 02:04:37,960
Speaker 1: high on him. People reaching out to me saying they

2637
02:04:38,000 --> 02:04:39,400
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be in the Pro Bowl. He's gonna

2638
02:04:39,400 --> 02:04:41,560
Speaker 1: take a step, huge step forward this year. He didn't

2639
02:04:41,560 --> 02:04:43,400
Speaker 1: take a huge step forward in the first preseason game,

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Speaker 1: as Chris Brown told his last segment, here's Dave on

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Speaker 1: the line from Lockport. Go ahead, Dave, Welcome to the show. Hey, John, Steve,

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02:04:50,520 --> 02:04:52,440
Speaker 1: thanks for left for taking my call. I want to

2643
02:04:52,480 --> 02:04:55,040
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the plan that the Bills

2644
02:04:55,160 --> 02:04:57,920
Speaker 1: might have for Josh Allen. I agree with Steve that

2645
02:04:58,000 --> 02:05:02,760
Speaker 1: there's definitely a plan and that Josh Allen was the

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02:05:02,800 --> 02:05:06,080
Speaker 1: Bills guys, was the Bills guy all along. I remember

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02:05:06,200 --> 02:05:07,720
Speaker 1: leading up to the draft, I was listening to the

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02:05:07,840 --> 02:05:10,080
Speaker 1: radio and the caller called in and said he ran

2649
02:05:10,160 --> 02:05:12,600
Speaker 1: into Brandon being out at a restaurant and asked him,

2650
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Speaker 1: you know, when Brandon first got hard, asked him, what

2651
02:05:15,000 --> 02:05:17,520
Speaker 1: do you think about the quarterback? And he said, uh, well,

2652
02:05:17,560 --> 02:05:19,240
Speaker 1: I was kind of hoping that the kid for Myomi

2653
02:05:19,280 --> 02:05:22,920
Speaker 1: would fly under the radar. And so you think that

2654
02:05:23,440 --> 02:05:25,360
Speaker 1: Josh Allen was their guy all along, you know, and

2655
02:05:25,480 --> 02:05:27,080
Speaker 1: leading up to the draft, you know. And to be

2656
02:05:27,120 --> 02:05:29,160
Speaker 1: honest with you, I think, Dave, you're you're you're right

2657
02:05:29,520 --> 02:05:31,440
Speaker 1: in one regard. I think it was Allan or Sam

2658
02:05:31,560 --> 02:05:33,360
Speaker 1: Darnold who were at the top of their list and

2659
02:05:33,480 --> 02:05:35,720
Speaker 1: they got they got Josh Allen. I know they're happy

2660
02:05:35,760 --> 02:05:38,640
Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, with Josh was tied to the Bill

2661
02:05:38,800 --> 02:05:40,600
Speaker 1: more than any other team during the draft, you know,

2662
02:05:40,760 --> 02:05:42,960
Speaker 1: leading up to the draft, and I think the plan

2663
02:05:43,640 --> 02:05:46,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, really, I don't think that's true, but

2664
02:05:46,480 --> 02:05:48,840
Speaker 1: go ahead, well it was tied to the Bills. I

2665
02:05:48,880 --> 02:05:52,480
Speaker 1: don't know about that. Well, I agree with let's see

2666
02:05:52,560 --> 02:05:54,920
Speaker 1: about the plan. But I think the plan is for

2667
02:05:55,280 --> 02:05:58,440
Speaker 1: Josh Allen to progress a little more quickly than thing

2668
02:05:58,480 --> 02:06:01,360
Speaker 1: you might think. I think they starting with the two

2669
02:06:01,400 --> 02:06:03,680
Speaker 1: tonight is the big forward to him possibly starting with

2670
02:06:03,760 --> 02:06:07,320
Speaker 1: the months next week and playing with the third team

2671
02:06:07,400 --> 02:06:10,920
Speaker 1: and makes it easier for him to learn to play

2672
02:06:10,920 --> 02:06:12,800
Speaker 1: a bug. The terminology and all the things they go

2673
02:06:12,880 --> 02:06:15,120
Speaker 1: along with that with, uh, you know, what I mean,

2674
02:06:15,400 --> 02:06:17,400
Speaker 1: and against the lesser competence, you know what you mean.

2675
02:06:17,520 --> 02:06:19,280
Speaker 1: Let me let me, let me take that a step

2676
02:06:19,320 --> 02:06:21,400
Speaker 1: furtherest even get you to think about this. I want

2677
02:06:21,400 --> 02:06:23,960
Speaker 1: to hear what you say about this. Do you have

2678
02:06:24,160 --> 02:06:27,320
Speaker 1: to start your September ninth starter in preseason game number

2679
02:06:27,360 --> 02:06:29,800
Speaker 1: three at quarterback? Do you have to play? You don't?

2680
02:06:29,800 --> 02:06:32,360
Speaker 1: You know? You're you do that dress rehearsal thing. How

2681
02:06:33,240 --> 02:06:35,440
Speaker 1: tied are they to that concept or that's any good question?

2682
02:06:35,480 --> 02:06:38,960
Speaker 1: That's a really good question because because it's tradition, and

2683
02:06:39,200 --> 02:06:41,360
Speaker 1: I wonder if you lay it out, Yeah, it's more

2684
02:06:41,400 --> 02:06:44,840
Speaker 1: tradition than it is requirements, not question about you can

2685
02:06:44,880 --> 02:06:47,240
Speaker 1: do anything you want. And I think it brings up

2686
02:06:47,240 --> 02:06:50,640
Speaker 1: a good question. Do the Bills are they tied to

2687
02:06:50,760 --> 02:06:53,800
Speaker 1: that third preseason game being a dress rehearsal for the

2688
02:06:53,880 --> 02:06:55,560
Speaker 1: guy they think is going to start on September or

2689
02:06:55,560 --> 02:06:58,200
Speaker 1: not just a quarterback, but every position. Everybody's gonna play

2690
02:06:58,240 --> 02:07:01,880
Speaker 1: that first half, everybody's gonna play that last that third

2691
02:07:01,920 --> 02:07:04,000
Speaker 1: preseason game. And here's the reason why it's always the

2692
02:07:04,040 --> 02:07:06,840
Speaker 1: third preseason game. Then you've got two weeks. You can

2693
02:07:06,920 --> 02:07:09,600
Speaker 1: skip a game and get a guy who tweaks his

2694
02:07:09,680 --> 02:07:12,560
Speaker 1: ankle or breaks a finger or something like that. You

2695
02:07:12,600 --> 02:07:14,520
Speaker 1: can get him ready to play on opening day still

2696
02:07:14,680 --> 02:07:17,280
Speaker 1: if he gets hurt, because what you let you finish.

2697
02:07:17,360 --> 02:07:18,640
Speaker 1: But what you don't want to do is get to

2698
02:07:18,760 --> 02:07:22,280
Speaker 1: fourth preseason game number four, thinking we gotta play this guy,

2699
02:07:22,320 --> 02:07:24,160
Speaker 1: we gotta play this quarterback tonight, even though it's a

2700
02:07:24,200 --> 02:07:26,480
Speaker 1: week away or ten days away from the opener, because

2701
02:07:26,560 --> 02:07:28,560
Speaker 1: we haven't seen enough, or we want to polish up

2702
02:07:28,560 --> 02:07:30,320
Speaker 1: a few things. You know, nobody wants to be in

2703
02:07:30,360 --> 02:07:32,160
Speaker 1: that position in preseason game number four. You want to

2704
02:07:32,240 --> 02:07:33,920
Speaker 1: hit the game. You want to hit the ground running

2705
02:07:34,240 --> 02:07:36,800
Speaker 1: in the first game, and it's hard to do. And

2706
02:07:36,960 --> 02:07:39,640
Speaker 1: that's why they also have started to have all the

2707
02:07:39,760 --> 02:07:41,720
Speaker 1: last preseason games. And you'll see it happen and we

2708
02:07:41,840 --> 02:07:44,760
Speaker 1: all know it. That Thursday before the weekend, before Labor

2709
02:07:44,840 --> 02:07:48,200
Speaker 1: Day weekend, they play those all those games as early

2710
02:07:48,320 --> 02:07:50,240
Speaker 1: in that week as they're allowed to play them because

2711
02:07:50,280 --> 02:07:53,120
Speaker 1: that gives him Friday, Saturday, Sunday is cutdown day, and

2712
02:07:53,200 --> 02:07:55,040
Speaker 1: then the rest of the week is for the game

2713
02:07:55,520 --> 02:07:58,560
Speaker 1: coming up. Is they've got an extra three days in

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Speaker 1: a regular work week, which is only seven days. They've

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Speaker 1: got a ten day work week from the last game

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Speaker 1: to make all those decisions about personnel and get guys

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Speaker 1: healthy and put a game plan in and get their

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Speaker 1: teams set. There's a lot going on in that last week.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing that says, though, Murph, that they can't say,

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Speaker 1: you know what, we're gonna play as our starters and

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Speaker 1: get them ready on that last preseason game. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna go out there and do that. The

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Speaker 1: only reason they don't is because they run the risk

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Speaker 1: of getting their starting quarterback, you know, with a tweaked

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Speaker 1: ankle or getting them injured, and then you're stuck with

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Speaker 1: a guy hurt for opening Day and that's the last

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Speaker 1: thing you want. And that's that's really how the tradition

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Speaker 1: got started. It is the time it takes these guys

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Speaker 1: to recover and giving them a week off before the

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Speaker 1: last preseason game so that if they are nicked up,

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Speaker 1: they can get healthy. Yeah, we'll see all this plays out.

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Speaker 1: It remains interesting. Maybe we get some clarity or separation tonight.

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Speaker 1: As we have said, a couple of times, one more

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Speaker 1: call has been waiting for a while. Nathaniel in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. Nathaniel,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air with us. Hey, John,

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Speaker 1: I'm nice to talk to us, first time caller. UM, thanks, Nathaniel. UM.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about like the wide receiver position

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Speaker 1: and how it's gonna go on for tonight. And I

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02:09:11,440 --> 02:09:14,920
Speaker 1: think Corey Coleman's gonna get majority of the reps tonight.

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02:09:15,360 --> 02:09:18,160
Speaker 1: He might not know all the play all of the playbook,

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02:09:18,160 --> 02:09:23,520
Speaker 1: but I think he's gonna get majority of their reps. UM. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I don't know how that'll I think he'll

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02:09:25,160 --> 02:09:26,960
Speaker 1: get a lot. I think he'll play with the first team,

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02:09:27,040 --> 02:09:29,680
Speaker 1: second team, and maybe a little bit more than that. UM.

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Speaker 1: As I said that when Chris Brown was here a

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02:09:31,840 --> 02:09:36,000
Speaker 1: little while ago. I haven't been, you know, chronicling the

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Speaker 1: career of Corey Coleman, but I have to believe tonight's

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02:09:38,400 --> 02:09:40,200
Speaker 1: game is as big a game as he's ever played

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02:09:40,240 --> 02:09:43,800
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Because the Bills have, you know, made

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02:09:43,840 --> 02:09:45,760
Speaker 1: the trade for him, didn't invest a lot in the trade,

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02:09:45,840 --> 02:09:48,680
Speaker 1: but there's interest in him. They have a need at receiver,

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02:09:48,760 --> 02:09:53,000
Speaker 1: they hadn't need for his particular type of receiver, and

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02:09:53,360 --> 02:09:55,040
Speaker 1: now's the time for him to show that he can

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02:09:55,120 --> 02:09:57,560
Speaker 1: stick around. UM. You know, we're a couple of weeks away.

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Speaker 1: I think, I think it is important. I think one

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Speaker 1: of the thing you got to know is Corey Coleman's

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02:10:01,680 --> 02:10:04,160
Speaker 1: got the physical abilities. Now he's built a little more

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02:10:04,200 --> 02:10:07,240
Speaker 1: camp compact. He's not like an AJ Green or a

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02:10:07,360 --> 02:10:10,440
Speaker 1: Julio Jones. He's not a six four, two hundred and

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02:10:10,480 --> 02:10:13,680
Speaker 1: thirty five pound guy, but he is a five to

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02:10:13,680 --> 02:10:18,520
Speaker 1: eleven six foot thick wide receiver who has that skill

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02:10:18,560 --> 02:10:20,280
Speaker 1: set that you've seen a little more explosion, a little

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02:10:20,320 --> 02:10:24,680
Speaker 1: more inside quickness, a little more grittiness to his game.

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02:10:25,080 --> 02:10:27,760
Speaker 1: But he's a physical receiver who's strong on the ball,

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02:10:27,840 --> 02:10:30,120
Speaker 1: and he's got a lot of speed because he can

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02:10:30,200 --> 02:10:34,440
Speaker 1: really fly. And the question has always been not about

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Speaker 1: his physical nature, but can he catch it when it's

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Speaker 1: thrown to him, and is he going to be in

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Speaker 1: the right spot at the right time and make the

2770
02:10:42,240 --> 02:10:44,200
Speaker 1: right reads for an offense? And how much they put

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Speaker 1: on his play mentally with the playbook to let him

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Speaker 1: play fast and loose and let him understand what he's

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Speaker 1: doing and play hard without thinking about too much about

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Speaker 1: what he's doing and worrying about whether he's doing the

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Speaker 1: right thing. How much of that can they give him

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Speaker 1: and how much how's he going to handle it, and

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Speaker 1: I think that's why I agree. I agree with Nathaniel.

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Speaker 1: I think Cord Coleman's going to get a big dose

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Speaker 1: of work tonight. Steve and I have final thoughts on

2780
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Speaker 1: tonight's game, plus a check of the weather for tonight's

2781
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Speaker 1: game when we come back. One Bill's Live presented by

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Speaker 1: Kalada Health from Cleveland on Buffalo Bills Radio. What do

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Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills. What have we learned from this show?

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Speaker 1: In Cleveland? Today, Mark Kelsel joined US color analysts on

2788
02:11:38,160 --> 02:11:40,680
Speaker 1: the Bills Radio Network talked about what he's looking for

2789
02:11:40,920 --> 02:11:45,000
Speaker 1: in tonight's game. The offensive line has a collection of

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Speaker 1: guys that I think they've probably defined which guys they

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02:11:49,920 --> 02:11:52,160
Speaker 1: feel might might end up with a starting role, But

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02:11:52,720 --> 02:11:54,720
Speaker 1: as far as who's going to be a second and

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02:11:54,920 --> 02:11:57,320
Speaker 1: third guy, and you need some guys with versatility, because

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Speaker 1: I mean, how many you're gonna keep. You're gonna keep

2795
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Speaker 1: eight or you're gonna keep nine, And if you do,

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Speaker 1: then you better keep some guys that can play inside

2797
02:12:03,320 --> 02:12:08,560
Speaker 1: and then play outside if the need arrived. Smart Kelsel.

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Speaker 1: Also we had Tim Rump on. He is director of

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Speaker 1: Hard Knocks with the Cleveland Browns the HBO show. Tim

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Speaker 1: Rump talked about the storylines from the Cleveland Browns for

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Speaker 1: this year's Hard Knocks. When we pick a team each year,

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Speaker 1: we kind of try to figure out right place, right time,

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Speaker 1: and really it was this year for Cleveland. It didn't

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02:12:24,600 --> 02:12:27,240
Speaker 1: really make sense last year or the year before, coming

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Speaker 1: off those bad seasons. But you add those back to

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Speaker 1: back seasons, the O and sixteen season, forty new players,

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Speaker 1: a bunch of new head coaches, so it's really interesting

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Speaker 1: to see how those pieces all come together and how

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Speaker 1: they kind of turn the page and figure out how

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Speaker 1: to put it all there. Hard Knocks. Tim Rump is

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Speaker 1: the director of this year. John Murphy, Steve Tashker here,

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Speaker 1: just a minute or two left, Steve here, it could

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Speaker 1: be a storyline. Tonight, weather getting ready for this game.

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Speaker 1: It's cloudy outside, looks like it's going to rain any minute.

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Speaker 1: The forecasts and night calls were isolated and scattered thunderstorms

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Speaker 1: with a sixty percent chance of rain temperature in the

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Speaker 1: mid seventies. It could ruin our buzz for this game.

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Speaker 1: We love this game, but that would be a typical

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Speaker 1: preseason scenario that would just reign on the parade of

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02:13:10,400 --> 02:13:12,640
Speaker 1: all the great storylines we have in this game that

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Speaker 1: will never be able to see come to fruition. I

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Speaker 1: would bumm me out, me to seven thirty, kickoff on

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Speaker 1: the radio and down the TV. Steve and I are

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Speaker 1: back next Monday at three pm. Our production assistants George Blast,

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02:13:23,640 --> 02:13:27,200
Speaker 1: Steph Colt, Nick Thomas Tomer, Kelly Rude, JJ Turto, Kevin Cardiers,

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Speaker 1: James James Robell. Our producer Jay Harris will see him

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Speaker 1: Monday at noon from One Bills Drive One Bills Live

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Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bills Radio