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Speaker 1: Second hour, Clay and Buck kicks off. Now we are

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Speaker 1: joined by the one and only Heather McDonald, Manhattan and

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Speaker 1: Stude fellow, author of When Race Trump's Merit. She has

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Speaker 1: a fascinating and really unsettling peace in City Journal California's

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Speaker 1: looming crime catastrophe. Recent legislation makes it easier for felons

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Speaker 1: to claim racial bias. We want to talking about this

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Speaker 1: and also the UCLA Medical School revelations.

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Speaker 2: The first walk people.

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Speaker 1: Through this because this is one of those things that

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Speaker 1: the first time you hear what's going on in California,

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Speaker 3: Well, thanks so much for having me on Buck.

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Speaker 4: A law has been passed in California that basically puts

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Speaker 4: into practice every tenet of critical race theory and anti

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Speaker 4: white privilege ideas. It holds that because we all know that,

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Speaker 4: of course the criminal justice system is racist, and the

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Speaker 4: only reason that there's a higher proportion of blacks in

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Speaker 4: that all that a black defendant needs to do to unravel,

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Speaker 4: of his race were treated unfairly because of their race.

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Speaker 4: And this is a complete destruction of the idea of

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Speaker 4: that as of this year, anybody in prison today in California,

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Speaker 4: take down the criminal justice system, and the left knows it.

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Speaker 4: They are celebrating this as the opportunity to end what

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Speaker 2: Heather, thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you have done incredible work on so many

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Speaker 5: different stories relating to DEI and the dishonesty in the

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Speaker 5: way that race has talked about in America today, UCLA,

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Speaker 5: I would submit to you, and I'm curious if you

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Speaker 5: former that I just mentioned. UCLA is now making diversity

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Speaker 5: one of the hallmarks of its medical training, and as

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Speaker 5: a result, it appears they are admitting severely underqualified students

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Speaker 5: us and how alarming should that be given that UCLA

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Speaker 4: Well, it's extraordinarily alarming, Clay, But it's far beyond UCLA.

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Speaker 4: This is going on everywhere and has been going on

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Speaker 4: They're so low if presented by a wider Asian applicant,

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Speaker 4: They struggle to pass exams, qualifying exams, and so the

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Speaker 4: this has been going on for a very long time, Clay.

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Speaker 4: In the nineteen eighties, there was a Harvard Medical School

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Speaker 3: Pressure to show diversity was so great.

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Speaker 4: We know that if you have not been able to

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Speaker 1: We're speaking to Heather MacDonald and she's got a really

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Speaker 1: important piece that's cross posted right now up at claanbuck

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Speaker 1: dot com. So you can go to Claianbuck dot com

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Speaker 1: and you'll see California's Looming crime Catastrophe by Heather McDonald.

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Speaker 1: By the way, crime is already a problem there, but

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Speaker 1: it's going to get a whole lot worse if this

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Speaker 1: There's this change in the ability for felons to contest

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Speaker 1: of historic group racism. But Heather, one issue that I

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Speaker 2: But are they just doing it in all these schools anyway?

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Speaker 2: But people just do it anyway? Is that the state

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Speaker 4: Of course, there's no way that these schools are going

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Speaker 4: phantom racism is the only unifying ideology on a college

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Speaker 4: campus today. It's brought us the Hamas protests, the Provamas

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Speaker 4: hysteria because it's all linked, it's all intersectional. You know,

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Speaker 4: And sadly, the Supreme Court decision two summers ago that

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Speaker 4: presented by whites and Asians. It's a complete double standard.

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Speaker 4: It's a war on excellence. And let's be honest, this

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Speaker 4: It is a war on whites, and now it's a

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Speaker 2: Heather, are you optimistic?

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Speaker 5: I'm trying to have an optimistic day as we roll

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Speaker 5: into the holiday weekend, and I wanted to hit you

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Speaker 4: Well, it depends on what people you're talking about. If

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Speaker 4: The question is, are the policymakers pulling back on that?

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Speaker 4: It's very still very hard to higher cops. There's a

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Speaker 3: Audio technology is racist.

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Speaker 4: If it turns out that you put audio sensors to

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Speaker 6: On the Sunday Hang podcast with Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 5: Travis Buck Sexton show headed into Memorial Day weekend? What

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Speaker 1: America's Last Election. The title tells you a lot. You

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Speaker 8: The Legislature had session yesterday and again failed to take

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Speaker 5: and Republicans had just violated it. Would Gretchen Whitmer give

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Speaker 5: Welcome back in, Clay, Travis, Buck, Sexton Show, Bernie Marino's

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Speaker 5: schedule to join us right about now, so we may

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Speaker 5: get a call or we may not. The campaign going

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Speaker 5: on in Iowa, they may have gotten caught up somewhere,

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Speaker 5: or as often is the case, still I don't know

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Speaker 5: when it's ever going to end. There's still a lot

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Speaker 5: of areas where cell phones just don't work all over

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Speaker 5: the country, and we're, you know, twenties for a generation

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Speaker 5: into everybody having cell phones at this point, and it

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Speaker 5: still doesn't make any sense to me. You guys listening

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Speaker 5: to us right now probably know certain places close to

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Speaker 5: your home where you're on the phone and you're like, hey,

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Speaker 5: it's probably gonna drop here. It always I did want

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Speaker 5: to hit on this, the decision on the mar Lago raid,

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Speaker 5: the fact that deadly force was authorized, really that got

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Speaker 5: Democrats rattled. I'm sure you saw this. Buck Merrick Garland,

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Speaker 5: the Attorney General who signed off on this raid, even

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Speaker 5: felt compelled to say what they're telling you is not true.

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Speaker 5: Even though it is true. Listen to cut seven.

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Speaker 9: That allegation is false and it is extremely dangerous. The

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Speaker 9: document that has been referred to in the allegation is

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Speaker 9: a Justice Department standard policy limiting the use of force.

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Speaker 9: As the FBI advises, it is part of the standard

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Speaker 9: operations plan for searches, and in fact, it was even

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Speaker 9: used in the consensual search of President Biden's home.

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Speaker 2: I just want to show us, show us that, yes,

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Speaker 2: show us that I agree.

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Speaker 1: What want to put put online the official document and

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Speaker 1: no faking official documents because that.

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Speaker 2: Would be a no no.

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Speaker 1: Put online the official document that shows us the authorization

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Speaker 1: for lethal force to pick up classified at Joe Biden's

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Speaker 1: beach house next to the corvette, hopefully not near Hunter's

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Speaker 1: bag of cocaine.

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Speaker 2: Like show us where this is. You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: We're just with I agree. I'm not taking his word

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Speaker 2: for anything.

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Speaker 5: And also that, first of all, I don't believe it's true,

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Speaker 5: because I think the document would have been released if

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Speaker 5: it were true.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it will come out at some point, but.

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Speaker 5: Even if it is true, as the Attorney General who

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Speaker 5: said that you personally made the decision to approve the

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Speaker 5: raid at mar A Lago, Merrick Garland's a smart guy.

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Speaker 5: He certainly understood that the action he was undertaking had

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Speaker 5: never occurred before in the history of the United States.

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Speaker 5: That is, the sitting President's Department of Justice, his FBI

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Speaker 5: raids the former president. Shouldn't he go ahead and own

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Speaker 5: that he screwed this up instead of claiming its standard

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Speaker 5: operating procedure. Bernie Marino joins us, Now, Bernie appreciates you.

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Speaker 5: We're rooting for you to flip Ohio back to a

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Speaker 5: full red state. But I'm curious what you think of

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Speaker 5: all this controversy about whether Joe Biden should be on

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Speaker 5: the ballot or not in Ohio and the scramble that

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Speaker 5: Democrat failure in terms of the timing of their Democrat

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Speaker 5: National Convention has put in place with Ohio law. How

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Speaker 5: do you break all this down?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, obviously, if the tables are turned, Let's

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Speaker 7: be honest, they would never lift a finger to President

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Speaker 7: Trump on the ballot, that they would do the exact opposite.

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Speaker 7: My perspective is, let's not be like them. And number one,

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Speaker 7: number two, let's show America that Ohio's Trump country. So

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Speaker 7: let's put Biden on the ballot so that we can

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Speaker 7: absolutely beat him by fifteen plus points and humiliate his

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Speaker 7: give him a humility loss here in Ohio. He deserves

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Speaker 7: is that, after everything he's done to this century, of

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Speaker 7: the last three and a half years, I'd like to

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Speaker 7: see him soundly defeated here in Ohio.

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Speaker 1: How is it looking right now? What are the latest

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Speaker 1: numbers telling you about how Biden's going to fare? And

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Speaker 1: is the Ohio GOP ready for the challenge?

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Speaker 7: Oh? Absolutely we have a great state party. We have

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Speaker 7: a great county party system. We have eighty eight very

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Speaker 7: healthy county parties. If the election were today, President Trump

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Speaker 7: would probably be win by twenty points.

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Speaker 5: Twenty point win. Is there any way you don't win?

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Speaker 5: If Trump wins by twenty how connected you think the

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Speaker 5: vote is going to be in Ohio when it comes

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Speaker 5: to presidential ticket and Senate ticket.

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Speaker 7: I think it'll be very connected. I think there's not

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Speaker 7: a lot of crossover anymore. But I'll caution this. You

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Speaker 7: know there's today the election is a twenty point victory.

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Speaker 7: But let's not discount the creativity of the radical left

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Speaker 7: to cause guide those grief, and also the entirety of

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Speaker 7: the mainstream media is going to do the bidding of

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Speaker 7: Sharon Brown and Joe Biden.

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Speaker 2: Let's not discount that I actually saw that.

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Speaker 5: I know your campaign's going well, Bernie, because I saw

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Speaker 5: the New York Times came after you and your entire

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Speaker 5: life history in a bio piece. And I always think

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Speaker 5: when I read those, man, Bernie must be running a

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Speaker 5: good campaign. When the New York Times dedicates three thousand

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Speaker 5: words to saying, Oh, Bernie's actually a really bad guy.

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Speaker 2: What'd you think of that profile. What did it tell

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Speaker 2: you about the campaign.

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Speaker 7: Well that they obviously can't talk about Sharon Brown's accomplishments,

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Speaker 7: so they have to debase me and my family. You know.

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Speaker 7: The Tadam moment in that article is, well, Bernie said

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Speaker 7: it was a two bedroom apartment. Turns out there was

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Speaker 7: three bedrooms. It's two bedrooms in a data We really

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Speaker 7: argue about this. And by the way, it had two bathrooms.

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Speaker 7: And it was five brothers, myself, my sister, my mom,

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Speaker 7: my dad, my grandfather, and my grandmother. So it was

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Speaker 7: definitely the lap of luxury according to the New York Times,

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Speaker 7: you know, and my dad was making five dollars and

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Speaker 7: twenty five cents an hour raising seven kids. But of

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Speaker 7: course it's just ridiculous. But there is no separation between

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Speaker 7: the New York Times and the Democrat Party. That's what

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Speaker 7: I learned in my brief time in politics.

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Speaker 1: Kind of Bernie, do you remember do you remember when

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Speaker 1: they went after Marco Rubio when Hillary Clinton was giving

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Speaker 1: speeches for two hundred fifty thousand dollars a pop, and

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Speaker 1: they found out that Marco, hopefully soon to be your

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Speaker 1: centate Republican colleague, had like a family fishing boat that

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Speaker 1: was worth like sixty grand or something in The New

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Speaker 1: York Times tried to hit him on that one, and

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Speaker 1: then everyone was talking about how many how many Marco boats?

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Speaker 2: Hillary gets paid for speech.

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Speaker 7: Marco Rubio's luxury yacht.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's how they were positioning in like, oh,

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Speaker 1: the spend thrift Rubio. Anyway, you know, you know what

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Speaker 1: you're up against with the New York Times. They're completely

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Speaker 1: an utterly in the tank. For the other side, what

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Speaker 1: do you I mean for the people who are wondering,

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Speaker 1: you know, how how this is going to shape up,

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Speaker 1: you know, against Biden, what's your expectation for what they're

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Speaker 1: going to try to hammer in your state? Like what

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Speaker 1: is the because Biden can't be the the tip of

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Speaker 1: the spear of their attack, right because it's Biden and

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Speaker 1: we all know this. Are they just going to go

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Speaker 1: on on abortion stuff and threats to democracy? Like how

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Speaker 1: are they going to try to position themselves.

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Speaker 7: In the you can't make this up department? Sharret Brown

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Speaker 7: is trying to position himself are you ready for this one?

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Speaker 7: As a Trump guy? So he's he's aligning himself saying

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Speaker 7: I'm with Trump on trade, I'm with Trump on taxes,

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Speaker 7: I'm with Trump on immigration, I'm with Trump on stopping fentanyl.

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Speaker 7: That is his current theme, which is again you know,

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Speaker 7: you have to suspend the mentality that they said, Oh,

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Speaker 7: it's totally wild. But and I you know, listen, let's

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Speaker 7: not be surprised when in October Sharon Brown endorses President

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Speaker 7: Trump and to Joe Biden, I see that as plausible.

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Speaker 2: That would be wild.

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Speaker 5: So you think it's possible to sitting Democrat senator is

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Speaker 5: going to be floundering and trying to win to such

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Speaker 5: a degree that he might endorse Donald Trump as President

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Speaker 5: of the United States in Ohio.

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Speaker 7: Oh, absolutely, I mean his ads are basically heading that

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Speaker 7: direction anyway. I mean, when if you have Air Force

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Speaker 7: one that comes anywhere near Ohio airspace, you can hear

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Speaker 7: share Brown running to a bunker.

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Speaker 5: That is pretty incredible to think about. So when you're

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Speaker 5: on the road for people out there who pay a

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Speaker 5: lot of attention to the presidential race, that obviously matters

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Speaker 5: a great deal. But if you beat Shared Brown, given

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Speaker 5: what's going on in West Virginia, Republicans take control of

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Speaker 5: the Senate. Obviously, there are a lot of other races

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Speaker 5: that are of high significance, But how much do you

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Speaker 5: think about that impact in terms of what it could

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Speaker 5: do for the nation to take back control of the Senate,

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Speaker 5: not to mention take back control of Ohio completely.

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Speaker 7: Think we have to paint that picture for voters. It

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Speaker 7: means a safe and secure border. It means zero illegal immigration.

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Speaker 7: It means we have safety and security. It means we

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Speaker 7: have a stronger country because we have a stronger economy.

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Speaker 7: We make things here in America again, We restore a

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Speaker 7: growing and thriving middle class. We have energy dominance, we

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Speaker 7: don't need any energy from any other country on Earth,

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Speaker 7: and we have piece of stability around the world. That

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Speaker 7: is what we will deliver for the American people if

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Speaker 7: they give us the opportunity of the White House and

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Speaker 7: the Senate in the House again.

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Speaker 1: Bernie Marino, Bernie worship folks go especially. We've got a

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Speaker 1: lot of Ohio listeners. They want to get involved in help.

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Speaker 7: I need to help from your listeners. They can go

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Speaker 7: on the website, Bernie Marino, Mr Emo dot com. Sarah

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Speaker 7: Brown is going to have every horrible dark organization around

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Speaker 7: the country supporting him. I need the grassroots supporters, the

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Speaker 7: conservatives that love this country and want to get our

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Speaker 7: country back.

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Speaker 1: There we go, Bernie Marino, everybody go check it out. Bernie,

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Speaker 1: thanks for being with us, of course, thank you, guys.

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Speaker 2: Play.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go refill my Crocket coffee, which I have

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Speaker 1: plenty of because I subscribe at crocketcoffee dot com, which is.

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Speaker 2: The best coffee you will get anywhere.

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Speaker 1: The most pro freedom, pro America, pro American history coffee.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna go do that and prepare everybody. Next hour,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have a eulogy for Red Lobster from our

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Speaker 1: friend Jesse Kelly, among other things were discussed with him.

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Speaker 1: And then also we'll talk about vacations and how to

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Speaker 1: do them the right way because we're gonna have a

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Speaker 1: fun third hour. We've missed any of the politics that

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Speaker 1: I think we've.

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Speaker 5: We've got everything that could happen in the world. There

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Speaker 5: could be news breaking, as we said, because it's going

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Speaker 5: into the holiday weekend, and a lot of times this

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Speaker 5: is when news dumps happen. So far, I think we've

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Speaker 5: covered every single news story on the planet in the

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Speaker 5: first fourteen hours of the week. Let's have some Memorial

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Speaker 5: Day fun headed into the final hour.

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Speaker 2: Of the week. Next here on Playing Buck