WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, October 15 0:00:02.560 --> 0:00:11.159 It is Thursday, October. This is Jaguars Happy Hour and 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:20.000 now social media's number one Smoked Meats influencer, Jay Peace Shadrick, 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:25.800 Welcome in. It is Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday. 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:28.560 It's week six. The Jags and the Lions coming up. 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:31.760 We've got Jeff Flagaman coming up, Tony Boselli as well, 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:34.520 and then at five o'clock the Doug Moron Show. Here's 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:38.800 what's coming up on the program today, Jags Lions preview. 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:41.960 The Jags are back home. They haven't been home in 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:45.160 a little bit. The only home game in this month. 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:48.960 Stretch to back to back road games for the last 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:50.800 two weeks and then home this week and then out 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:53.040 to l A next week. So I gotta get a 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:55.680 little home cooking this week. Gotta get a little offensive 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:59.600 balance to according to Jay Gruden, will back that around 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:04.240 a little bit. The defense getting healthier. The front line 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:06.600 guys were out last week at least are back on 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:09.520 the practice field somewhat this week. Tony masel As we 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:12.200 set it for thirty and the head coach joining us 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:16.440 on the Jaguars Radio Network at five o'clock. Jeff Logman, 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:20.280 Jaguars analyst, joining us now and here we go. This 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:23.200 is a game, Logs that you just need to get 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:26.280 this one after the bad taste the last four weeks. 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:29.360 It's a young team. They've got to get some confidence 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:32.760 back and and finish the game and a winning result 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:37.480 is is badly needed at this point, Uh, in a 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:40.480 big way. And uh when you when you work so 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:43.520 hard and you've got a young football team and you're 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:46.000 trying to tell them, hey, look, if we do things 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:48.080 the right way and we do this and we do that, 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:53.280 then we're gonna win. But then you continually lose. It's 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:55.840 hard to get some type of positive reinforcement. I mean, 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:57.520 it's just human nature that you want to have some 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:01.120 type of reward for all your hard work. And then 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:02.800 once you get to the point where, okay, all of 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:07.080 a sudden you're real off, you know, five losses, six losses, 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:09.160 seven losses, then you know, all of a sudden, the 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:12.919 season is lost. And then it's a matter of becoming 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:15.480 the old term. Now you've got to be a professional. 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:19.000 You know, nobody wants to play football to be a professional. 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:23.600 You play football to win and then to advance. And 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:25.680 so I mean, obviously it's a very long shot for 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:28.080 this football team to kind of bounce back and and 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:31.240 get itself involved in the playoff picture. But for a 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:33.320 young team, look, you just want to compete. You want 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:37.520 to be competitive, and right now they're not being competitive, 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:39.120 you know. I mean a few of these games are 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:42.239 competitive to a certain point, but then the opponent is 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:44.840 running away with it and it's hard to stomach sometimes 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:47.280 and it's hard to take, you know, And that's why 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:50.360 you have a lot of a little sour attitudes, you 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:52.200 know what I mean, scept some I think the first 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:54.480 couple of weeks of the season, things felt a little better. 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:56.400 You get better answers, you know, when you talk to 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:59.400 the players and they're a little happier, a little bit 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:01.880 more chipper, and all of a sudden after four consecutive 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:08.359 JP not so much. That's the way it works. Got 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:10.760 to get those winning results in the NFL. Let's get 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:13.160 to the injury report today. It just came down from 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:16.639 the Jaguars PR staff. The list is not quite as 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:19.280 long as it was last week. There's still a lot 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:23.280 of names on the list. Guys who were full today though, 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:27.079 include Daniel Quality, defensive lineman C. J. Henderson, who was 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:30.720 limited yesterday. The cornerback full today. That's good news. Miles 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:34.600 Jack same exact thing. Limited yesterday, full today, That's great 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:37.720 news for the Jaguars defense. Brandon Lender had a scheduled 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:41.360 off day yesterday. He was full today. Now. Josh Allen 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:44.360 has been limited both days Wednesday and Thursday, coming off 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:49.720 his knee issue. Laviscus Chennault did not practice yesterday. Limited today, 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:52.200 but he played last week, of course after not much 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:55.640 practice at all. And then most notable guys who haven't 0:03:55.640 --> 0:04:01.040 practiced yet this week, dj Chark wide receiver, then Tyler Eifford, 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:05.840 and linebacker Dakota Allen. The Chark win is a little 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:08.200 scary there, Logs. That's never good news. In your top 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:12.920 receiver has not touched the practice field in two days, well, 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:15.960 it's never good. And and it's never good either when 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:18.320 he only has three catches for sixteen yards in the 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:22.359 previous game. You know. So I remember in the course 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:24.440 of the game last week, there was a point where 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:26.560 he ended up going off to the sideline and he 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:29.920 was kind of limping, and obviously that's where he hurt 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:34.480 this ankle, which is what's on the injury report. And uh, look, 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:38.640 we've seen how this team played without him, which was 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:41.320 the Thursday night game against the Miami Dolphins, and the 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:46.080 team had like no juice offensively. So if he's not 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:49.680 able to play against the Detroit Lions, you can't go 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:52.359 back to that, to that type of an offense. And 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:55.039 then one thing I said about after that game is 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:58.240 that that's absolutely no reason for your offense to have 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:01.919 no juice sho. No one guy, with the exception of 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:05.800 maybe a quarterback and an offensive system, is that important 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:09.600 to an offense to where you slump that badly in 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:12.799 one week because of a wide receiver's absence. You got 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:17.000 you got a good wide receiver group, you know, Caitlan Colea, Visca, 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:20.880 the young guy, Colin Johnson, I mean, all these guys 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:24.159 are and Chris Conney, I mean, these are all legitimate 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:26.839 guys that can play. I'm not saying that they're superstars, 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:30.200 and they're not Pro Bowl caliber guys by like DJ, 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:32.960 but they're good enough to get you by for a 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:35.760 period of time. So if DJ is not available, and 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:37.000 I don't know if he is or he's not going 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:39.560 to be, they need to play better than they did 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:44.280 on that Thursday night game. But one more addition, to 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:47.320 this injury report. Abvery Jones limited yesterday with an ankle 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:49.720 on a hamstring issue, did not practice today. We'll get 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:51.840 to the defense a little bit later in the show Loves, 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:55.040 but let's start today. Let's continue on the offensive side 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:58.200 of the ball, and the main talking point this week 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:01.240 for J. Gruden the offensive NATO was still trying to 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:05.120 find that balance in the offense. Gardner Minshew through the 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:09.160 ball forty nine times last week. Let's hear from J. Gruden. Now, 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:12.200 you said there's an ideal number of attempts for Gardner Minshew, 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:16.240 and it certainly is not forty nine times. We won 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:18.159 one game and he threw the ball twenty times. We're 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:20.560 really probably about twenty seven or twenty eight times because 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:22.280 he had a couple of scrambles in there and in 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:25.360 a couple of sacks. So, uh, that's the ideal number 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:28.680 for us. Unfortunately, uh score related, we weren't good enough 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:30.640 on offense in the first two or three quarters to 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:33.159 keep the game uh close where we didn't have to 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:35.400 throw the ball. You know, I feel like against Cincinnati, 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:39.080 obviously against Miami and then last week against Houston, you 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:41.159 take a whole quarter out of your out of the 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:42.760 game as far as being able to run the football 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:44.760 because you're playing behind, you're playing against the clock as 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:47.480 well as that the other team. That kind of skews 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:50.440 the numbers. But in a perfect world, this offense is 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:53.960 built on balance, and uh to thirty times is the 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:59.120 target number in my opinion, which would have been the numbers, 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:02.600 certainly because he had some scrambles and some sacks in 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:05.640 that game week one to make it between twenty five 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:09.560 and thirty. And you see, um, you every time the 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:11.800 Jags have loss, he's had to throw the ball forty 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:16.920 or more times. That's not the recipe for effective balanced 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:19.440 offense logs, especially when you have a running game that 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:25.360 has been effective when it's been used. I kind of 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:29.040 have I don't want to say an issue with with 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.600 what Jay grew us saying, but I want to point 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:33.560 one thing out, and that you know, you kind of 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:35.520 he's kind of looking at the tempo of the game 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:38.000 and as to why they didn't have the number of 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:40.520 carries in the running game and why they threw the 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:44.520 ball so many times. But at the same token in 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:48.360 the ball game against the Texans, I mean, the reality 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:50.760 is in the first half, offensively, you had plenty of 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:54.520 opportunities to actually take the lead in the first half, 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:56.840 you know. So it's not like the game got out 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:58.960 of hand because there was something that was out of 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:01.800 your control. I mean, the game was a one possession 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:05.160 game all the way until the third quarter, you know so, 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:07.600 and and it should have been not even a one 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:10.280 possession game. The Jaguar should have taken the lead at 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:12.640 some point because towards the end of the first half 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:16.880 there you had uh, what was it, third and goal 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:19.800 at the three, and then you end up trying a 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:23.200 little chip shot field goal and that's no good. You 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:24.840 get no points out of that. And then you turn 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:27.360 around and get an interception to the city Jones had 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:30.240 and then you have an opportunity to do something there, 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:32.680 and then you come up with no points there. And 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:35.360 then you have another opportunity with the fourth and one, 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:38.560 and that was right there in the tight red area, 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:40.320 and you were not able to do anything with that either. 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:42.800 And you know so, so all the way through up 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:46.480 until that fourth and one, you had control of the 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:48.880 game as far as you could have done whatever you 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:51.080 wanted to do. You could throw it, you could you 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:54.000 could run it, you could have balance. Uh, you could 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:56.800 have you con sat there and fed James Robinson the 0:08:56.840 --> 0:09:00.280 ball a ton of times? Um I just think wasn't 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:02.320 a very good game for j grum H and the 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:06.200 coaching staff. You know, for a couple of different reasons. One, 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:08.080 you didn't have balance of what the play call and 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:09.720 even go even if you go all the way back, 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:11.959 you roll the game back and you stop the numbers 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:14.320 right there at that fourth and one and you say, okay, 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:16.440 let's go back and let's look at what the run 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:19.760 pass ratio was. It wasn't very balanced at that point. 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:22.760 And I think that that's got to change. I think 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:25.640 it's putting too much on a Gardner Minshew's plate, and 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:27.360 you need to take a little bit of pressure off 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:30.600 of him because right now your quarterback is not playing 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:33.360 well enough to be able to carry the load. That's 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:35.959 a fact. And so if he's not playing good enough 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:37.400 to carry the load, then you've got to take the 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:39.319 load off of me. You've got to find a way 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:43.600 to take the load and put it somewhere else. Well, 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:46.320 here's a here's another thought about it too. Obviously, the 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:49.920 Texans entered the game last week the last ranked rushing 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:53.720 defense in football. The Lions. This week are the thirty 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:58.959 second ranked team against the run. But when defenses are 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:03.160 struggling and at least statistically against the run, can they 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:07.960 scheme things defensively to make teams throw? You know, there's 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:10.200 at some point there's so many guys up front and 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:13.240 coming down that you have to throw the football, right, 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:14.880 I mean? Is that? Is that another way to look 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:18.880 at this too? Yes, I mean that can be the case. 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:22.280 And if you go back to the Blake Bortles era, 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:26.440 that's what you saw because opponents were likely We don't 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:28.360 care about Blake Bortles. I mean, let him beat us 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:30.720 if if he can beat us, you know, and we 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:33.520 don't deserve to win a football game anyway. You know, 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:36.160 you're not seeing that now, jpet where you're saying eight 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.320 man front, nine man fronts and crowding the line of 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:42.120 scrimmage and then they're darying the Jaguars to throw the football. 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:47.240 You're you're not seeing that. So uh, I just you know, 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:50.440 because when you refer back to where the opponents were ranked, 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:53.079 and obviously a lot of times statistics can be kind 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:57.480 of torked and and interpreted however you want to it 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:01.559 to some degree, But when you look at the opponents 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:04.080 that the Jaguars have had, and when you go back 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:06.640 last week, they were what Houston was dead last, right, 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:10.960 go back the week before that, Cincinnati was about dead last, 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:14.000 if not dead last. Then you go to the week 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:18.480 before that and it was a Miami Dolphins team that 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:22.240 was like twenty seven against the run. So I mean, 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:25.560 you're talking, you know, a three week stretch here where 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:29.240 you're you're facing a bottom five opponents stopping the run, 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:32.760 but yet you're not You're not calling. In the Miami game, 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:34.520 I get it because you know, you kind of fell behind, 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:37.080 and so the tempo of the game was very different. 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:41.160 But the Cincinnati game and the game against the Texans, 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:45.679 the tempo was still there that you could have continued 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:48.160 to stick with the run, but you you call it 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:51.120 a little bit more past. And look, I don't want 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:52.680 to get to the point of where you you're trying 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:55.679 to criticize the offensive coordinator. But because I think Jay 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:57.520 Gruden is a wonderful coach. I think he's one of 0:11:57.520 --> 0:11:59.959 the best in the league. But look, offensive coordinators and 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.360 coaches can have bad games too. I mean that that's 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:04.920 allowed to happen. And I think that the Texans game 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:06.319 was a bad game for j I think it was 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:09.520 a bad game for the coaching staff. Offensively speaking, anyway, 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:15.400 the Jaguars are what twenty six in the league and 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:17.959 rushing the ball. Going back to statistics again, you can 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:21.120 talk them anyway you'd like, as you said, but they're 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:25.880 they're pretty good in terms of runs, yards per play 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:28.720 ninth in the league. So when they do run the 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:32.600 ball logs, it has been effective. James Robinson is a 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:35.960 big part of that. The offensive line has certainly a 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:39.480 major role in that in this running game when it 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:43.120 is rolling, can be quite effective for the team. For 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:45.839 this team as you see by the yards per play 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:50.559 and in the run game. Well, in his past game, 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:55.000 I talked a little bit about about third down as 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:57.480 an all offense to allow you to continue to run 0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:01.000 the football. And again, you have those opportunities as an 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:03.439 offense because you know you were converting I want to 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:07.480 say it was on third down against the Texans eight 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:11.520 of sixteen to be exact, So you had the opportunities 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:14.520 run the ball for whatever reason you chose not to. 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:18.080 And I think the one that the play that you know, 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:21.360 everybody kind of shook their head at, and I think 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:23.560 Ethan J. Gruden admitted that it wasn't a very good call, 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:28.400 but it was that little wildcat sweet pass that James 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:32.480 Robinson was gonna throw it to James of shaughnessy. And 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:36.760 if you want to question the call, that that's fine 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:40.199 because that's what people do, you you question play calls. 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:41.840 And I don't think it was a very good call, 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:45.079 But then I also look at the play and I'll go, okay, 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:48.200 if it's called, then let's look at the play and 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:50.840 the execution of the play. I thought the execution of 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:54.679 the play was poor. I thought that, uh, from from 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:57.400 a number of standpoints, and that you had about four 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:01.640 guys on that play that didn't even come close to 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:04.880 executing at the level that it needed to be. From 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:10.199 James Robinson to your full back, to James O'Shaughnessy, uh, 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:14.160 to your tight end that was staying in the block. Uh, 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:17.439 there's four components on that play that didn't perform anywhere 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:21.880 close to where you needed to be at. And for me, 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:26.280 if you have a play like that, it's gotta be 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:29.520 you gotta be rolling downhill. When I say rolling downhill, 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:33.200 you're you've got the opponent on the heels you've got 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:37.600 maybe a a lead in the ballgame. James Robinson has 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:41.720 been not a dominant player, but has been an impact 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:44.960 player in the game. And at that point, James Robinson 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:47.320 was a little bit of an afterthought. So all of 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:50.760 a sudden to expect the defense to go, oh, no, 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:54.480 James Robinson in a wildcat sweep, We've got to come 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:56.760 up and stop him because he's been gash at us. 0:14:57.240 --> 0:15:03.120 Wasn't happening. So uh And obviously that wasn't play calling 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:05.000 at its best in my opinion. But if it worked, 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:08.960 I would say that's a great play call. That's right, Yeah, 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:11.520 that's right. And Drewden did admit that this week that 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:14.040 you know, it's probably a better third down play that 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:17.240 gives you the fourth down cushion there. But hindsight, as 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:20.800 you said, is let's touch on this line. I don't 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:23.040 know if I would call a good down play either, JP, 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:25.520 because you know what you're running on third down, and 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:27.160 if you don't make it there, then you try to 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:29.640 run it again on fourth. Now, I mean it's it's 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:32.080 that's one of those plays where you run when you've 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:34.400 got a lead, you know, and you're just you're just 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:38.320 dog piling the opponent on the ground and James Robinson 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:41.040 is kicking everybody's rear end. That's I mean, for me, 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:43.920 that's the kind of call that I would like to 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:46.760 say that situation for where you're trying to just slam 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:49.360 the door shut and and make it, you know, a 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:52.640 three possession game or you know, something of that nature. 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:55.320 But in that situation where you're where you're behind and 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:59.440 you're just trying to get the lead and uh no, 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:04.160 or we go up to score or something like that. 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:07.000 Let's get to the Lions defense quickly. Here logs. You 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:09.680 go through the depth chart and it's not like there 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:13.560 are household names jumping off the page at you. For 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:18.040 the Lions defense. Jeff sent out to me, obviously the 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:20.880 rookie corner. Who are the householding Who are the names 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:25.400 of the Lions defense to look out for. Chris Spielman, 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:34.400 Robert Porsche, Darius Slay. Uh. I'm joking, because I mean, 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:37.720 you're right. I mean it. This is a Lions defense 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:40.280 that that doesn't have a lot of names, but it's 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:43.040 got a few names now that are pretty good. And 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:46.360 a lot of those names you probably would recognize been 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:51.080 in New England Patriots uniform and with the Detroit Lions uniform, 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:55.040 you're probably not recognizing them because Doron Harmon is the 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:59.680 safety as a former Patriot. You've got Jamie Collins, who's 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:04.160 a form or Patriot. You've got uh, Danny Shelton who 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:07.959 played for the Patriots, Trey Flowers who played for the Patriots. 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:11.160 I mean, so if they were wearing Patriot uniforms, you'd 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:14.080 be going, I know that guy. But there in Detroit 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:16.280 and not many people know that they made the move. 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:19.680 And obviously Matt Patricia having the New England connection, that's 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:21.560 why you see a lot of those guys who are there. 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:23.879 But yeah, I mean to answer your question, it's not 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:26.439 a lot of household names. And the reason why is 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:29.520 because Detroit hasn't won a lot of football games. It's 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:34.560 no different than if you ask somebody in Kansas City 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:37.400 or somebody in Detroit about, hey, do you know who 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:41.240 plays for the Jaguars defense, and it's probably go, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:48.760 plays Campbell, Yanniken, Gockway, oh yeah, Jalen Ramsey. But I 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:52.880 mean it's not the case. You know, so when when 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:55.760 you play teams and they win and they're good and 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:57.959 they're on TV, it's a little bit easier to know 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:00.880 their names. And right now the detro lines haven't been 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:04.160 very good under Matt Patricia and so we haven't seen 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:07.119 him a lot. We haven't had the experience of facing 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:12.600 him much, so you really don't know him. 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