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Speaker 2: Final hour in this Tuesday Man. Callers were fired up
Speaker 2: earlier talking about which fan base would feel worse today,
Speaker 2: Notre Dame losing the National title game or Michigan the
Speaker 2: fact that Ohio State won the National title. A little snarky,
Speaker 2: but you've come to expect that. Age seven to seven,
Speaker 2: three DP show operators sitting by Tyler not doing anything
Speaker 2: else but petting my dog and waiting for phone calls.
Speaker 2: And we'll come up with the poll question for the
Speaker 2: final hour of the program. Rick Neuheiser, good buddy, former
Speaker 2: college coach, works for CBS Sports. He was at the
Speaker 2: National Title game and he will join us coming up.
Speaker 2: Let's see, got some openings here, probably going to be
Speaker 2: filled today. Maybe the Jets today with Aaron Glenn, the
Speaker 2: Raiders losing out on Ben Johnson to the Bears. Mike
Speaker 2: Brabel already ready to go Brabel the Raiders lost him
Speaker 2: as well. Well, So you got the Saints, Jets, Jags, Cowboys.
Speaker 2: Feels like Mike McCarthy's gonna get one of these two
Speaker 2: jobs with the Saints and the Jags. I don't know
Speaker 2: if Pete Carroll is going to get this job with
Speaker 2: the Raiders, but I've been reading that there's a little
Speaker 2: more momentum there with Pete Carroll. I think it'd be great.
Speaker 2: He's proven you can get a coordinator, and we've seen
Speaker 2: there are coordinators that who do make it, but then
Speaker 2: a lot of them do not. Pete Carroll's a proven
Speaker 2: commodity there. Mike McCarthy a proven commodity there. The Cowboys situation,
Speaker 2: Maybe they bring back Kellyan Moore, who's the offensive coordinator
Speaker 2: for the Philadelphia Eagles. Maybe Dion's still in the mix.
Speaker 2: But your guess is as good as mine with Dallas
Speaker 2: because it feels like it's Jerry Jones who's doing everything.
Speaker 2: And you know, usually get leaks, you know there's information exchanged,
Speaker 2: somebody will put something out there, but I haven't heard
Speaker 2: that muchch Aaron Glenn is supposed to be with the
Speaker 2: Jets today. Ben Johnson going to the Bears. They usually
Speaker 2: don't get the number one guy, but they got him.
Speaker 2: I think it's a great hire. I was looking at
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams' stats this past season, so is rookie season
Speaker 2: in case you're wondering. In two games against the Lions,
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams threw for five hundred and ninety yards, five touchdowns,
Speaker 2: no interceptions. He also rushed for another seventy three yards
Speaker 2: on ten carries. So he knows how to go against
Speaker 2: the Lions defense. And now you get Ben Johnson to
Speaker 2: help him kind of clean up footwork and try not
Speaker 2: to improvise as much. All he can do I think
Speaker 2: is progress. All you know, it's an upside there with Ben.
Speaker 2: But this isn't about just developing your quarterback. This is
Speaker 2: running a football team. That is the big difference here.
Speaker 2: By the way, I'm sure you're chiefed out. The Chiefs
Speaker 2: have gone eight consecutive games regular season in postseason without
Speaker 2: a turnover. That is the longest streak in NFL history.
Speaker 2: Stat of the Day, stat of the Day, That past
Speaker 2: stat of the day, stat of the day.
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Speaker 2: Next Sunday it'll be UCLA going to Maryland. Big ten
Speaker 2: Basketball in NBC Peacock. It's always game time. I did
Speaker 2: watch Golden State yesterday. Well, I don't know if I
Speaker 2: was really watching the Celtics more than I was Golden State.
Speaker 2: They got humbled, like embarrass one of the worst losses
Speaker 2: in the last forty years for Golden State at home,
Speaker 2: and you start to go, okay, get towards the trade deadline.
Speaker 2: Who can you bring in? You're an average team right now,
Speaker 2: five hundred? Can you how about this? Could you bring
Speaker 2: back Kevin Durant? What'd you bring back Kevin Durant? What
Speaker 2: would that mean if you brought him back? Can you trade?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: Lebron said, Hey, we kind of have to do what
Speaker 2: we do and this is kind of who we are,
Speaker 2: and sounded like that means Lebron would be open for
Speaker 2: a trade, Like this is kind of who we are.
Speaker 2: If you're Lebron, you want to stay in LA I
Speaker 2: get it. Could you send him to Golden State? What
Speaker 2: would you get in return for him? What would it
Speaker 2: mean for Golden State? Like, if you're looking big picture here,
Speaker 2: Steph Curry winning another title, Lebron winning another title, what
Speaker 2: that would mean for them? So that's big picture stuff.
Speaker 2: And if I'm those two players, that's what I'm thinking about.
Speaker 2: They're already making their money. Now one more title, especially
Speaker 2: for Lebron he gets one more. Now you're truly knocking
Speaker 2: on the doors, you know, of Mike now get to
Speaker 2: be hard to argue that. But for Steph Curry, get
Speaker 2: to get one more as well? You know that makes
Speaker 2: him a top ten player of all time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, PAULI any chance, stop me if I'm completely off base.
Speaker 4: If you're the Warriors, would you consider, with his approval,
Speaker 4: trading Steph Curry while he has a decent amount left
Speaker 4: in the tank. With his approval, I'm sure he's got
Speaker 4: tons of veto power.
Speaker 2: I think that fan base would go bonkers.
Speaker 4: You're at five hundred. It's fair to say you're probably
Speaker 4: not winning a title this year next I think.
Speaker 2: They would be. Now, it's not like the Lakers with Kobe.
Speaker 2: Remember those last two years. They spent that money and
Speaker 2: they weren't any good, but it was it felt like
Speaker 2: to placate the fan base. Hey, come on out and
Speaker 2: see Kobe Bryant. It might be that way with this
Speaker 2: fan base, you know, come out and see Steph Draymond.
Speaker 2: Feels like when Steph goes, Steve Kerr goes. I mean,
Speaker 2: this is really the end of a dynasty there. But
Speaker 2: would I consider I wouldn't trade Steph Curry, but I
Speaker 2: would trade for somebody to come in with Steph Curry. Yes, yes, Marma.
Speaker 5: Going back to your Lebron and Steph playing on the
Speaker 5: same team thing that would not help Lebron's case against
Speaker 5: going against Michael Jordan.
Speaker 3: True, because people don't look at Kevin Durant.
Speaker 5: Kevin Durant thought that they were going to show him
Speaker 5: the same love that Lebron got when he won those
Speaker 5: championships in Miami, and he said, why you're playing with
Speaker 5: Steph Curry, Klay Thompson and Draymond Green. So that would
Speaker 5: be the same thing as Lebron going over, especially going
Speaker 5: to Steph's team. That wouldn't be a good look for
Speaker 5: him legacy wise at all.
Speaker 2: Criticize me, but still give me a championship like I'd
Speaker 2: take it. Got like Ryan Day, Hey, I can't beat Michigan,
Speaker 2: but I won a national title. Go ahead and criticize me.
Speaker 2: Speaking of which, Rick new Heiel, former college coach, now
Speaker 2: works for CBS Sports. He was at the national title game.
Speaker 2: He joins us on the program. What did you expect
Speaker 2: before the start of this game?
Speaker 6: I expected exactly what the first half gave us, which
Speaker 6: was a Buckeye kind of one sided affair. I thought
Speaker 6: the Buckeye defense, which had been outstanding much of the season,
Speaker 6: even going back to the Michigan game, would have their way,
Speaker 6: and because Will Howard and this receiver crew had been
Speaker 6: unlocked during the playoffs, averaging over three hundred yards a game,
Speaker 6: I thought that would be too much for the largely
Speaker 6: playing man defense of Notre Daday.
Speaker 2: You know, when Marcus Freeman comes out to start the
Speaker 2: second half, he looks like a guy who is out
Speaker 2: in the water and there's a big wave coming just
Speaker 2: to take him under. What is that feeling like when
Speaker 2: you really you're holding on for dear life.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, he had to take some shots, and
Speaker 6: it just was amazing that Jaden Grayhouse had the same
Speaker 6: kind of second half he did Riley Leonard seventeen to
Speaker 6: twenty two in the second half over two hundred yards.
Speaker 6: I mean, where was that. They really hadn't needed that
Speaker 6: portion of their offense much of the season, and yet
Speaker 6: there it was when they summoned it, and you just
Speaker 6: kind of wonder. Great House, who had over one hundred
Speaker 6: yards receiving in both the last two games. That's amazing
Speaker 6: that he wasn't more utilized over the course of the year.
Speaker 2: How did Notre Dame make it interesting.
Speaker 6: With great House and Mitchell Evans and you know, guys
Speaker 6: rose to the occasion a couple of great two point plays.
Speaker 6: I mean, this was a well coached football team. They
Speaker 6: got everything out of this team all season long. Is
Speaker 6: a unique Notre Dame team because you don't remember Notre
Speaker 6: Dame teams with six year players and a bunch of
Speaker 6: transfers that that's not normal for Notre Dame. Who you know,
Speaker 6: days in the days of Lou Holtz and Dan Deviney,
Speaker 6: You've got four years to play and then you matriculated
Speaker 6: on this was They've grown into the college football scene
Speaker 6: how it's being played now, and I think they got
Speaker 6: everything out of this team. I think everybody left the
Speaker 6: stadium last night kind of happy with the way their
Speaker 6: team played.
Speaker 2: After Ohio State lost to Michigan, I wondered on that Monday,
Speaker 2: you know, without this twelve team playoff, would he have
Speaker 2: kept his job. And now obviously he's going to keep
Speaker 2: his job, but I wonder what this twelve team playoff
Speaker 2: does to the rivalry with Michigan moving forward that it
Speaker 2: used to be. If you lost that game, you lost
Speaker 2: any hope to win a national championship.
Speaker 6: You know, that rivalry is so ingrained in the culture
Speaker 6: of those two states that I don't think anything is
Speaker 6: going to go.
Speaker 2: Away in that rivalry.
Speaker 6: Michigan, you know, feels like, hey, we beat the national champs.
Speaker 6: We were the national champs. It's the first time DAN
Speaker 6: since the Big Ten one back to back national championship
Speaker 6: since I think sixty five and sixty six. That's an
Speaker 6: incredible thing for Tony Petiti for the Big Ten. But
Speaker 6: if you're asking, ohiose State fans and Mission fans, if
Speaker 6: that game's gonna go anyway closer to diminishing importance, No way,
Speaker 6: no chance.
Speaker 2: Talking to Rick new Heisel, he was there last night
Speaker 2: joining us from Atlanta the national title game. If I
Speaker 2: said you could have Jeremiah Smith or Travis Hunter.
Speaker 3: Ooh, that's a good one.
Speaker 6: I think Jeremiah Smith beats Travis Hunter if they play
Speaker 6: head to head. If you put Travis Hunter out there
Speaker 6: at the corner, just because even if Travis Hunter can
Speaker 6: stay with him, Jeremiah Smith sighs allowed him to make
Speaker 6: the play. It's he's a unique, unique athlete. I watched
Speaker 6: him walking around in the lobby at the hotel here
Speaker 6: and just that is a man in a very young body.
Speaker 6: That is, he's a tough He's a tough out. And listen,
Speaker 6: Notre Dame with that third down right there, had to
Speaker 6: play man. They had to come after him. That that
Speaker 6: was the down that gave them their only chance. And
Speaker 6: it wasn't an accident. That Will Howard went to number four.
Speaker 2: What happens in the off season with college football?
Speaker 6: Great question. I think that they're going to get closer
Speaker 6: and closer. I keep wanting for collective bargain, but when
Speaker 6: I asked the question to those who really can make
Speaker 6: things happen in college football, they say collectively bargain with
Speaker 6: who that they do the players really get benefit from
Speaker 6: assembling and unionizing and becoming an organization. All they're going
Speaker 6: to do is lose things in that regard rather than
Speaker 6: gain things. So I think we're going to get closer
Speaker 6: to contracts, you know, UH, some employment relationship with the UH,
Speaker 6: with the student athletes, and and I think hopefully we'll
Speaker 6: get there sooner than later so we can get our
Speaker 6: arms around it. We've got to solve getting to the
Speaker 6: finish line with both coaches and players. Intact, we've got
Speaker 6: to solve this transfer portal thing. This kid leaving from
Speaker 6: Wisconsin to Miami and saying I don't need to be
Speaker 6: in the portal a whole wrench into that conversation. And
Speaker 6: then we've got to make sure that, in my estimation,
Speaker 6: that we hang on to the entirety of Division One
Speaker 6: rather than try to keep bleaning towards this the super
Speaker 6: Conference that a lot of private money's trying to influence.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's gonna happen, Rick, I just I
Speaker 2: think they it's money. They're just looking at it. All
Speaker 2: of this is money. That's why we went to twelve team,
Speaker 2: That's why we'll go to fourteen, and in probably you know,
Speaker 2: six or seven years, we'll go to sixteen teams.
Speaker 6: Well, the fact that all four teams were a by loss,
Speaker 6: we might go to sixteen sooner than later, given the
Speaker 6: fact it didn't look like an advantage. As the old
Speaker 6: man said to the young man, the answers money, Now,
Speaker 6: what was the question? You're exactly right on that super conference.
Speaker 6: I just would like everybody to look at themselves in
Speaker 6: the mirror and say is this what we had ended
Speaker 6: when we started college football, which was supposed to be
Speaker 6: about enhancing the education of young people. And if we
Speaker 6: actually eliminate scholarships because there are a number of programs
Speaker 6: that can't participate because we just say only these many
Speaker 6: are television darlings, what have we done? And I think
Speaker 6: if we borrow a little bit of the European soccer model,
Speaker 6: with some relegation and promotion, you can give the little
Speaker 6: guys some access, you can give the big guys some incentive,
Speaker 6: and you can create more television drama, which obviously resonates
Speaker 6: with the czars of television because college football right now
Speaker 6: is the number two television draw in America, NFL being one,
Speaker 6: college football being two, and you know the other professional
Speaker 6: leagues behind them and really not close. So I would
Speaker 6: argue that there's a way to preserve what we have
Speaker 6: in college football and most importantly, preserve all those scholarships.
Speaker 2: More likely to coach in the NFL Marcus Freeman or
Speaker 2: Ryan Day.
Speaker 6: Great question. I think my to right now is Ryan Day.
Speaker 6: But Marcus Freeman is a rock star. There's no getting
Speaker 6: around that he's a rock star. It was a marvelous
Speaker 6: job at Notre Dame. He's gonna look and keep pushing
Speaker 6: the envelope with Pete Pavak with a new ad and
Speaker 6: try to say how can we get more guys that
Speaker 6: look like those guys in the white last night.
Speaker 2: Great to talk to you is always have a great offseason, Rick,
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us DP. It's always a pleasure. Happy
Speaker 2: New Year, my brother. That's Rick Neuheisel. I'll let him
Speaker 2: get by with the Happy New Year. Normally I would
Speaker 2: have called him on it say no, no, we're well
Speaker 2: down the road. But always good to talk to Rick.
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Speaker 2: There was an interview with Reggie Bush in The Sporting
Speaker 2: Tribune and that came out yesterday. He revealed that he
Speaker 2: spoke to Sacramento State about their head coaching vacancy. They
Speaker 2: eventually hired Brennan Marion, but Reggie Bush said he had
Speaker 2: a strong desire to coach and his ultimate goal is
Speaker 2: to become the head coach at uscing. They reportedly were
Speaker 2: interested in Michael Vick, who eventually took the job at
Speaker 2: Norfolk State. But we're seeing a lot of these former players,
Speaker 2: Eddie George, you know obviously with what Dion was doing,
Speaker 2: ed Reid, so Michael Vick. Here's Reggie who Reggie I
Speaker 2: think is thirty eight thirty nine. Deshaun Jackson is a
Speaker 2: head coach historically black colleges in university. He's at Delaware State,
Speaker 2: I believe, correct. Ye. So you're starting to see this
Speaker 2: trend with coaches or former players and taking jobs that
Speaker 2: you know probably aren't as desirable as some of these
Speaker 2: other openings. You get an opportunity there, and then look
Speaker 2: at what Dion did. Now, once again, Dion is the anomaly.
Speaker 2: What he did at Jackson State then to go to Colorado.
Speaker 2: Dion is different than any of these other coaches because
Speaker 2: Dion is a brand and he is expounded upon that.
Speaker 2: He's expanded upon that that brand and what it means.
Speaker 2: New York Times had a big article on Deon this
Speaker 2: past Weekend about d On the brand. Yes, Marvin, Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think he hosted SNL one time. That's how famous
Speaker 5: he was even as a player.
Speaker 2: But he still resonates with players now. When you see
Speaker 2: defensive backs when they make an interception and they start
Speaker 2: to run towards the end zone and then they you know,
Speaker 2: do the Dion dance as they go into the end zone.
Speaker 2: He still resonates with these younger, younger players, and I
Speaker 2: still think he's staying at Colorado, I think with a
Speaker 2: great recruiting class. But you can't rule out if Jerry says, hey,
Speaker 2: do you want to come in? Is Deon going to
Speaker 2: turn that down? I think Dion. I think Jerry wanted
Speaker 2: just to hear what Dion had to say about the job.
Speaker 2: I don't Dion his response was it sounded like he
Speaker 2: was saying, Hey, I'm really honored he wasn't offered the job,
Speaker 2: but he gave you that impression that he was turning
Speaker 2: down the Cowboys. And then when Edwarder, who covers the Cowboys,
Speaker 2: joined us, it was, hey, there's real interest here and
Speaker 2: if offered the job, Deon would take it, but so
Speaker 2: far hasn't been offered the job. Dylan in California. Hi, Dylan,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?
Speaker 9: Hey morning in dv Danes. Thanks for taking my call. Sure, Hey,
Speaker 9: I just had a little pull question actually for you boys.
Speaker 9: For the two NFC East teams that are currently not
Speaker 9: in a playoffs, which franchise do you think feels crappier
Speaker 9: the all in Cowboys or the Giants who decided on
Speaker 9: Danny dumpster Fire over Sakwon Barkley and didn't listen to
Speaker 9: the GM's son who thought Jayden Daniels might be a
Speaker 9: good idea.
Speaker 2: Which franchise is in the worst shape. The Cowboys are
Speaker 2: the Giants. I'd still look at the Giants right now.
Speaker 2: The Cowboys do have they have value, They mean something.
Speaker 2: I think players would still want to play for the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: It's a decent roster. I'd like to know who you're
Speaker 2: going to have as your head coach. But it's probably
Speaker 2: a little closer than you would expect between those two franchises.
Speaker 2: It's just you can't let you know, Washington's got draft
Speaker 2: picks and they've got money, and you got a quarterback
Speaker 2: on a rookie contract, like they're going to emphasize defense.
Speaker 2: Get you know they're going to get some players there
Speaker 2: and then that's when it really gets interesting. But you
Speaker 2: got the Eagles who are still in this window down
Speaker 2: super Bowl window. As long as Jalen Hurts continues to progress,
Speaker 2: stays healthy. I mean, they have all the pieces there.
Speaker 2: You can't lose Jalen Hurts. Yeah, pulling.
Speaker 4: It does feel like the Cowboys are locked into their
Speaker 4: direction and can't get out of it. They have very
Speaker 4: little flexibility at the quarterback position, wide receiver position and
Speaker 4: soon to be the defensive end position and facing the
Speaker 4: commanders a couple times a year. And the Eagles, it
Speaker 4: doesn't feel like anything's happening to them in the next
Speaker 4: few years.
Speaker 2: Steven California, Hi, Steve, Hello.
Speaker 9: Yes, I was on hold.
Speaker 10: I was hearing above the Steve Garvey I want to
Speaker 10: before I get to my main point. Grew up in
Speaker 10: New England, Massachusetts, Connecticut, and I collected baseball cards in
Speaker 10: the seventies, and even though I didn't call the Dodgers
Speaker 10: and know much about the Dodgers, I knew about Steve Garvey.
Speaker 10: So that's kind of like one of those things in
Speaker 10: the Hall of Famer, just know worry about him was
Speaker 10: as a kid meant something I think, okay, may my
Speaker 10: main point on the NFL for a correction to help
Speaker 10: the defense a little bit with these running quarterbacks, who
Speaker 10: are you know, the defense afraid to tackle them or
Speaker 10: how much hard to hit them, and maybe the quarterback
Speaker 10: fake like he's going to go down or something like that.
Speaker 10: What if it was the correction rule where the quarterback
Speaker 10: is only going to run or get credit until the
Speaker 10: first down.
Speaker 2: Also after that no matter what happens, then no, No,
Speaker 2: I think they just have to call it correctly. I
Speaker 2: think they have to enforce, reinforce what the rule really is.
Speaker 2: And Mahomes is flaunting it absolutely and you know you're
Speaker 2: going to do it until you can't do it. I
Speaker 2: get it. But I still think the NFL in the
Speaker 2: off season really has to look at that rule of
Speaker 2: when is he defenseless, when is he down? What are
Speaker 2: you allowed to do? What if he's kind of going
Speaker 2: out of bounds but he's not going out of bounds.
Speaker 2: I just think they got to tighten that up because
Speaker 2: I think there are certainly quarterbacks like Mahomes who are
Speaker 2: taking full advantage of this. Craig and fort Wayne and
Speaker 2: then we'll play the losing playoff team. In the best
Speaker 2: shape moving forward.
Speaker 9: Hey Greig, all right, good morning, Dan, Dan asked, I
Speaker 9: appreciate your call. It's too cold in Indiana to go
Speaker 9: to school, so this is the only time I get
Speaker 9: to listen. My question. If you're Brian Day and you
Speaker 9: wake up this morning, are you relieved or justified in
Speaker 9: how you run your program? Thank you?
Speaker 2: I would say you're justified. The fan base wants you
Speaker 2: to beat Michigan. They, I think at that time, are
Speaker 2: thinking we're not going to win a national championship. Therefore
Speaker 2: it was the most important thing in the world to them.
Speaker 2: Today that fan base is like, all right, you know what,
Speaker 2: that was a terrible, terrible performance, but what we did
Speaker 2: in the postseason is really indicative of who we are.
Speaker 2: So I would say he has to feel justified. I
Speaker 2: think the relief was that you made the postseason, because
Speaker 2: if you don't have a twelve team playoff, you don't
Speaker 2: make the postseason, then it's different. For Ryan Day. Yes,
Speaker 2: I get the idea of a sense of relief for sure.
Speaker 2: I mean, you did it. You could check that off.
Speaker 11: It's never going to be a question anymore, you know,
Speaker 11: And I mean he's still young, you know, he's still
Speaker 11: got a ton of time to do great things. But
Speaker 11: man to be able to just check that one off,
Speaker 11: that must feel really great.
Speaker 2: But I don't know if he would, if he would
Speaker 2: say that was a relief, like he would admit something
Speaker 2: like that, like we won a national title. What a relief.
Speaker 2: I think he would say, I told you trust us,
Speaker 2: we have the ten you know. So I don't think
Speaker 2: he would, And he might feel both of those, but
Speaker 2: he's only going to want to tell you one of those, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 5: Isn't it natural to have a sense of relief if
Speaker 5: you're really good for a long time? So State, not
Speaker 5: next year, but the year after the Lions won the
Speaker 5: Super Bowl. If you're Dan Campbell, he's just going to
Speaker 5: be finally we did it. Isn't it natural to have
Speaker 5: a sense of relief, Yeah, you've been good for a
Speaker 5: long time.
Speaker 2: Well, the expectation level for the Lions was you're going
Speaker 2: to the super Bowl. You're probably gonna be favored to
Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl, all right, Steve Young when he
Speaker 2: joined us. When they won a super Bowl, there's a
Speaker 2: sense of relief because you're supposed to win. Ohio State
Speaker 2: was supposed to win last night, notre Dame is not going. Boy,
Speaker 2: what a relief. They would have been thrilled if they
Speaker 2: won that game. Ohio State, you're supposed to win, So
Speaker 2: there is a sense of relief there, all right. Losing
Speaker 2: playoff team in the best shape moving forward Lions, Texans, Ravens, Right, Todd,
Speaker 2: I'll start with you.
Speaker 12: Not that you asked, but I numbered them from one
Speaker 12: to four. I went with Ravens one, but I went
Speaker 12: Texans over Lions. With Rams in last.
Speaker 2: Place, Okay, seet o' connor. The team that's in the
Speaker 2: best shape Lions, Texans, Ravens, Rams.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 11: I mean, it's tough to not say the Ravens, but
Speaker 11: if I was going to not say them, I might
Speaker 11: say the Texans actually, because it feels like there's the
Speaker 11: least amount of question marks heading into next season with
Speaker 11: that team. I haven't studied this, but it feels like
Speaker 11: the same exact team is going to basically be on
Speaker 11: the field next year. Maybe a little better, maybe you
Speaker 11: can add some pieces. With the other teams, there's a
Speaker 11: bunch of question marks about who's resigning. You just lost,
Speaker 11: You're gonna lose both coordinators, who else is going to
Speaker 11: be back?
Speaker 2: Those kinds of things rank, Marvin.
Speaker 5: I'm with these two. I'm going to Texans. Also, they're young,
Speaker 5: they're good, and they're in their badness vision.
Speaker 4: Okay, Paul Texans, tank Dell's back, digs his back, Will
Speaker 4: Anderson rookie contracts still in the division. It is hard
Speaker 4: to pick any AFC team, but maybe their youth mahomes
Speaker 4: will be bored of the sport in three or four years.
Speaker 2: I am going to go with the Lions. I think
Speaker 2: the Lions will get everybody back. They lost their coordinators,
Speaker 2: but I still think you have the core that's there.
Speaker 2: You've got all those offensive players, you got a best
Speaker 2: tackle in the sport, and got two good running backs
Speaker 2: Aiden Hutchinson coming back. They'll get new coaches, coaches that
Speaker 2: might get promoted within the organization. But if we're looking
Speaker 2: at bigger picture to win a Super Bowl, I'd say
Speaker 2: the Lions moving forward. Yes, Tom, but you shook.
Speaker 12: Off a twenty four to seven lead at halftime and
Speaker 12: then you come back and have a great season, win
Speaker 12: no playoff games this year. I just get this feeling
Speaker 12: that things may get a little sour before they get
Speaker 12: to the next level next year.
Speaker 2: All right, So what you're saying is the Lions will
Speaker 2: not make the playoffs next year.
Speaker 3: I do not say, oh.
Speaker 2: It sounded that way.
Speaker 3: They've they so I could be the one seed the
Speaker 3: next day. I don't see that next year.
Speaker 2: Okay, who goes further the Broncos of audience next year to.
Speaker 3: The Lion should.
Speaker 2: That's why they played the game. Thank you, Ton uh
Speaker 2: Don in Dover. Don in Dover, Yes.
Speaker 13: Good morning, Dan, and I've had a quick question. I
Speaker 13: want everyone's thoughts on Ben Johnson being hired by Chicago.
Speaker 13: He's coming from Detroit. They play indoors. He's going from
Speaker 13: Jared GoF to Caleb. The focus in Detroit I think
Speaker 13: is offensive line. You mentioned the best tackle, the two
Speaker 13: running backs.
Speaker 14: He's going to a.
Speaker 13: System where it's receivers and I don't know the running
Speaker 13: backs in Chicago. I don't know if Ben Johnson will
Speaker 13: be the right guy for the job.
Speaker 15: I just want to know what you guys think.
Speaker 2: Well, they normally don't win in the off season, and
Speaker 2: I think they won in the off season. I think
Speaker 2: getting Ben Johnson was a great hire for them. It's
Speaker 2: a different hire. They have to spend money, and this
Speaker 2: is you know, this was the number one candidate I
Speaker 2: think that arguably the number one candidate in the offseason
Speaker 2: for these openings, and the Bears got him, and he's
Speaker 2: going there for a reason, or he's not going to
Speaker 2: other teams for a reason. The Bears probably gave him
Speaker 2: the best opportunity, paid him the money he has to
Speaker 2: see Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams was really good against the
Speaker 2: Lions in the two games this year. Didn't have an
Speaker 2: interception through for almost six hundred yards. Maybe he's looking
Speaker 2: at him saying, I can clean all of that up
Speaker 2: and build off of that, But I don't know if
Speaker 2: he can run a football team. And that's what this
Speaker 2: comes down to. Pete Carroll can run a football team.
Speaker 2: If you said I could have Pete Carroll or I
Speaker 2: could have Ben Johnson, I would side with Pete Carroll.
Speaker 2: He's proven it. But I think we love that idea of,
Speaker 2: oh my god, this guy is the thinking different than
Speaker 2: anybody else.
Speaker 9: Does.
Speaker 2: He can come in, We're going to be exciting, Okay.
Speaker 2: Matt Nagy was supposed to be exciting and innovative, and
Speaker 2: he was learning from Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes, and
Speaker 2: that didn't go well because he couldn't run a football team.
Speaker 2: Robert Salah, great defensive coordinator, not a head coach. Probably
Speaker 2: going to get hired as a defensive coordinator, but he
Speaker 2: wasn't a head coach. That's the key. I don't know
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson's personality. I don't know how he is when
Speaker 2: he's talking to the media. I don't know if I've
Speaker 2: ever seen him interviewed. Those are things that you have
Speaker 2: to factor in, and that's kind of the X factor
Speaker 2: when it comes to a coach, potential coach. I mean,
Speaker 2: you have to be able to handle all of these things,
Speaker 2: and there are things you got to handle that you
Speaker 2: go I didn't know that was part of the job description.
Speaker 2: That's what I want to see. That's what I want
Speaker 2: to hear. Richie and Wisconsin. Hi, Richie, what's on your mind?
Speaker 9: Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 16: So my question is when you look at the Patriots
Speaker 16: and they're powerized or that they had from I don't
Speaker 16: know the two thousands to you know, twenty fifteen. I
Speaker 16: guess when you look at the Patriots and you look
Speaker 16: at the Chiefs, who would you think is hated more
Speaker 16: as more disdained for that team?
Speaker 2: Thank you at their peak the Patriots, because I think
Speaker 2: people thought they were cheating. The Chiefs haven't been accused
Speaker 2: of that over exposure, yes, But with the Patriots, it
Speaker 2: was somehow they were getting around rules, the tuck rule,
Speaker 2: spygag deflate gig, that they were doing something that was nefarious,
Speaker 2: and I think because of that, I think the national
Speaker 2: view of the Patriots was they're doing something that's illegal.
Speaker 2: The Chiefs. That goes along with success, that we see
Speaker 2: you and what can be a novelty now becomes a nuisance.
Speaker 2: You're like, oh my god, here we go again. And
Speaker 2: that's what comes along with greatness. You know, the Yankees
Speaker 2: were spectacular, you know they with Derek Jeter and company.
Speaker 2: But then after a while you're like, oh god, here's Jeets.
Speaker 2: You know, you get tired of that, You get tired
Speaker 2: of greatness. You want to nitpick at it. But I
Speaker 2: look at the Chiefs and say, I mean, this is
Speaker 2: really really rarefied air what they do in today's football landscape,
Speaker 2: to replace players, to trade players, to lose players. I mean,
Speaker 2: seven consecutive AFC title games. But I don't get I'm
Speaker 2: not chiefed out where I'm like, oh I don't want
Speaker 2: to watch this, or if they show Taylor Swift. I
Speaker 2: couldn't care less and it's not. It doesn't change my day.
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark's in there. Blame the networks, don't blame them. Mahomes.
Speaker 2: Does he take advantage of the rules? Yes, playing the rule.
Speaker 2: So that's where I kind of I get it. When
Speaker 2: you're you know, it feels like this is this is offensive,
Speaker 2: This is gonna ruin my day. Oh I hate see.
Speaker 2: Oh they're gonna win. Oh my god, they can't go
Speaker 2: to the super Bowl again. That's gonna be the feeling.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. You know, it's like the uh San
Speaker 2: Antonio Spurs, like people didn't like him, but only because
Speaker 2: they were boring, Like there was nothing exciting. They just
Speaker 2: played unbelievable basketball. They were a dynasty. But it's like,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, they're boring. No nice bang shot, Tim Duncan, Yes, Ton.
Speaker 12: If you're not a fan of any of the four
Speaker 12: remaining teams, do you want to see the Chiefs play
Speaker 12: for or win a third straight Super Bowl? If you
Speaker 12: don't have any of these teams, are not your favorite team?
Speaker 12: Is that like a great story? That would be so
Speaker 12: great to see them win three.
Speaker 2: It's a great story. But maybe we use that tomorrow
Speaker 2: on the show. I would say most people don't want
Speaker 2: to see that, but to have a three peat, sure, Yeah, Martin.
Speaker 5: In the eighties, was there fatigue of the Lakers, Celtics
Speaker 5: or the forty nine ers.
Speaker 2: I don't remember that being that way. We wanted the
Speaker 2: Celtics and the Lakers. I don't think anybody was rooting
Speaker 2: for anything other than that, unless you're like the Houston
Speaker 2: Rockets or you know, the Pistons or somebody. But I
Speaker 2: think back then you knew that those are the two
Speaker 2: best teams, personalities, everything that stake, MVPs, Hall of Famers,
Speaker 2: all of that. I don't think we ever tired of that, Yeah, Pauly, and.
Speaker 4: I don't think we tired of it because there was
Speaker 4: no social media. Yeah, if you go back to Michael
Speaker 4: Jordan and the Bulls in the nineties, that was the
Speaker 4: most covered team in sports for probably a eight year run.
Speaker 4: And it felt like a rock band you never got
Speaker 4: sick of because we weren't beat to death with coverage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you didn't have all these shows, didn't have
Speaker 2: all the podcasts. You know, that's where everybody's starting to
Speaker 2: slice and dice. Analytics, enters, in the picture. But I
Speaker 2: don't think anybody went. I got Celtics Lakers. It was,
Speaker 2: oh my god, Celtics and Lakers. Even with Joe Montana
Speaker 2: in the forty nine er, I don't remember somebody going.
Speaker 2: Anybody but Montana. I don't know. Plus, who are you
Speaker 2: yelling at? The only thing you're yelling at. You go
Speaker 2: out in your yard and you yell at the I
Speaker 2: don't know that the clouds or something. It's not like
Speaker 2: you calling into shows or social media. But from what
Speaker 2: I remember, I don't think anybody got tired of them.
Speaker 2: Take a break, Last call for phone Calls? What we learn?
Speaker 2: What's in store tomorrow?
Speaker 1: Right after this, be sure to catch the live edition
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Speaker 1: store tomorrow? This day in sports history, all of that forthcoming.
Speaker 1: How about we go to this day in sports history.
Speaker 1: Let's get started with that Paul sure thing.
Speaker 4: Dan nineteen seventy nine. The Pittsburgh Steelers right on Q
Speaker 4: for our topic, beat the Cowboys thirty five thirty one
Speaker 4: in Super Bowl XIII, The Steelers became the first team
Speaker 4: to win three Super Bowls. Ninety five. John Stockton became
Speaker 4: the NBA's all time career assists leader nine and twenty two.
Speaker 4: Don Mattingly ninety seven unfortunately announced his retirement when the
Speaker 4: Yankees missed that run. Ninety seven Chicago Bulls Michael Jordan
Speaker 4: had fifty one against the New York Knicks. Another Michael
Speaker 4: Jordan with the Wizards in O two, played his first
Speaker 4: game in Chicago as a visiting player, and this is
Speaker 4: a good one. Twenty ten, Kobe Bryant of the Lakers
Speaker 4: became the fifteenth player in NBA history to hit twenty
Speaker 4: five thousand career points, youngest ever to do it, thirty
Speaker 4: five days faster than Wilt Chamberlain.
Speaker 2: Huh okay, but Wilt was probably twenty two when he
Speaker 2: got to the NBA. I'm guessing because he was he
Speaker 2: was in college. I think he played for the Globe
Speaker 2: Trotters as well, so he might have been about four
Speaker 2: years older than Kobe.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Paul, that's about right. He was twenty two turning
Speaker 4: twenty three. Wilt Chamberlain in nineteen fifty nine when he
Speaker 4: started in the NBA.
Speaker 2: On this date in nineteen ninety. This is this player
Speaker 2: became the first to be kicked out of the Australian
Speaker 2: Open nineteen ninety This player the first to be expelled
Speaker 2: from the Australian Open.
Speaker 4: Paul that mattz Vielander was always troubled.
Speaker 2: It wasn't motz Velander. Motzvelander, Yes, Todd.
Speaker 12: Jim Currier took a tone with one of these.
Speaker 2: No, Jim Currier, nice guy, very nice guy, very nice guy.
Speaker 2: John mcenroeh, John McEnroe thought he's retired by the nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety Was he announcing he got can't down? I mean,
Speaker 2: who knows? With mac? Nineteen ninety nine, the Warriors traded
Speaker 2: Latrelle Spreewell. He hadn't played in fourteen months since choking
Speaker 2: his coach PJ. Carlissimo. He was traded to the Knicks
Speaker 2: for John Starks, Chris Mills and Terry Cummings. Nicks went
Speaker 2: to the NBA Finals. Uh. I think that's it all right?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 2: Chris in La, Hi, Chris, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 9: Good morning?
Speaker 8: Dan?
Speaker 7: Hey?
Speaker 15: I just wanted to comment on the uh catch my
Speaker 15: homes kind of taking advantage of the sliding rule. You
Speaker 15: know what if they did like the fair catch rule
Speaker 15: where you have to be discernible where you can't be
Speaker 15: in between either have to make it clearly known that
Speaker 15: you're fair catching or not, because I think the players
Speaker 15: will kind of police themselves. If quarterbacks did not clearly
Speaker 15: make it as if they're sliding or going out of bounds,
Speaker 15: and the league kind of eased up on the personal fouls,
Speaker 15: then I think the quarterbacks getting hit when they weren't
Speaker 15: clearly going out of bounds or sliding would make them,
Speaker 15: you know, change the way they do things. So I
Speaker 15: think maybe they, you know, ease up on the personal
Speaker 15: foul calls, let them kind of see what it's like
Speaker 15: if you don't make it clear.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But I mentioned this a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 2: Chris that can you just announce you're giving yourself up?
Speaker 2: And I don't know who we had on at the time,
Speaker 2: and they're like, it might have been Mike Golick, and
Speaker 2: it was like okay, but still, when you're running, imagine
Speaker 2: you're running and you get ready to put your hand
Speaker 2: up and then somebody knocks the ball away and now
Speaker 2: we're going to be well, wait a minute, did he
Speaker 2: give himself up. Is that a fumble? You know, the
Speaker 2: competition Committee's got this is difficult because they go out
Speaker 2: of their way to make sure they're protecting the quarterback,
Speaker 2: and you want to do that. I just want to
Speaker 2: make sure the quarterback is going to protect himself and
Speaker 2: he doesn't need the official to protect him. And it
Speaker 2: feels like the officials are the ones protecting the quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: The quarterbacks aren't necessarily protecting themselves. Yes, Tom, will we
Speaker 2: ever call flopping of some sort? Mahomes didn't want to.
Speaker 12: You get a little nudge out of bounce and then
Speaker 12: you go flying to try to get that, you know,
Speaker 12: at late penalty for the late hit. You know, you
Speaker 12: see that from time to time and they rarely call it.
Speaker 2: Is there a flag? Is there a penalty for flopping?
Speaker 12: I'd have to check with the league, but there certainly
Speaker 12: should be because it happens a lot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Paul, there's an NFL rule for unsportsmanlike conduct. It
Speaker 4: doesn't have any language about flopping. Akeman brought it up
Speaker 4: and said that could be unsportsmanlike conduct under the gray
Speaker 4: area of that rule.
Speaker 2: Chuck in Queens, I chuck, what's on your mind? Hey?
Speaker 14: Dan Dennett's by six a Roly two twenty six. I
Speaker 14: am calling to just give Rick Fattino his kudos. He's
Speaker 14: done a wonderful job with Saint John's. We can score,
Speaker 14: we can pass in, our defense is excellent. And I
Speaker 14: have a pie in the safe bet for Marvin.
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I mean, you come against Saint.
Speaker 14: Johnes on February seventh and eight pm on Friday night
Speaker 14: under the lights, and I believe that game is that
Speaker 14: I miss Sea or it could be at the Excel Center.
Speaker 10: I'm not sure they're.
Speaker 2: Always under the lights. Just letting you know, Chuck, when
Speaker 2: we playing basketball, it's rare when it's dark.
Speaker 14: But okay, my question for Marvin though, was actually a
Speaker 14: serious one. It's not slighting his team. I expected Yukon.
Speaker 9: To be a lot better than they are.
Speaker 2: Wait, what's the beat, what's the bet? It's just straight
Speaker 2: up Saint John's against Yukon.
Speaker 14: Saint John's rus yukon February seventh at eight pm on Fox.
Speaker 3: All right, PI to the face, easy, I'm taking it, Okay, now,
Speaker 3: question okay, all right?
Speaker 5: Have them actually talked to me like late March early April. Wow, scoreboard,
Speaker 5: Chris Mallin's not walking through that door.
Speaker 2: Whoa yes, Todd, who winds up?
Speaker 3: They playing the dark and there are no lights. That's
Speaker 3: the real question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's this big build up MSG under the lights.
Speaker 2: You might be working that, Dame, Marvin.
Speaker 3: No, No, we're down in New Orleans. Oh we will
Speaker 3: be yep. That's our final show is for Friday February.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, we'll be with post Malone or whoever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, post Malone. He was good. He was That was
Speaker 2: a good show.
Speaker 3: You didn't like all the profanity I did.
Speaker 2: He dropped an F bomb every four words. I'm like,
Speaker 2: we don't need to We're better than that F bomb.
Speaker 2: Speaking of which, Fritzy.
Speaker 12: I learned that Christopher mad Dog Russo says the Chiefs
Speaker 12: get every call note to man and wants to know
Speaker 12: how is Kaitlin Clark suddenly a huge k C fan?
Speaker 3: Gee whizzed, Danny.
Speaker 2: Uh Seaton, What did you learn, christ Russo? He's sick
Speaker 2: of stuff? Paul, what did you learn? We love Russo's hair.
Speaker 2: Marvin chiefed out. Have a great day, everybody. We'll talk
Speaker 2: to you tomorrow.