1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: We're now going to believe that they're going to go 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: out and out bid Steve Cohen and al Steidebrenner for 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Wat Soto. 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 2: Like what, Hello everybody, and welcome to a brand new 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: edition of Fair Territory with Ken Rosenthal. 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 3: Ken Rosenthal is on assignment. I am Alana. 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 2: Rizzo taking you through the next half an hour with 8 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: our good friend from the Athletic of course, Britt d'oli, 9 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: who does a tremendous job covering Major League Baseball for 10 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: over many, many many years. Britt, thanks so much for 11 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 2: filling in here kind of pinch hitting for Ken Rosenthal. 12 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 2: Before we get going, don't forget you guys to load 13 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 2: up the questions. We're gonna grill Britt today, not grill 14 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: and Ken. We're grilling Britt. So before we do that, 15 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 2: let's get to the league, all. 16 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 3: Right, Brittany. 17 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: So we're hearing a lot of things about, of course, 18 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 2: Mookie Betts. Perhaps you've heard of him, but Bob Nightingale 19 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: first reporting that Mookie Bets is going from right field 20 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: back to the infield. So it seems like a position 21 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: change is on the horizon once again for Mookie Betts. 22 00:00:58,680 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 3: What is your takeaway on. 23 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: This well, Alanna, it feels like this was the plan 24 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 1: last year before he got hurt. I think they would 25 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: prefer for him to be in the infield. What makes 26 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: this more interesting to me is it weakens what already 27 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: is kind of a weakened outfield situation, Like outfield debt 28 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,919 Speaker 1: for the Dodgers now becomes a significant issue, and there's 29 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: certainly ways they can address that, whether it's retaining guys 30 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: who just won the World Series with going out on 31 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: the open market and getting guys you're going to hear 32 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: about Wan Soto, which of course is still remains a 33 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: lot a lot of a long shot in my opinion 34 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: for that to be a match for him to go 35 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: to the West Coast. But really this is about, I think, 36 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: maximizing a talent like Mookie Bets. You look at the 37 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: season he was having before he got hurt, before they 38 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: moved him to the outfield, and you know, he was 39 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: doing terrifically, especially offensively. He was really thriving. I think 40 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: it's easier on his body, is what the Dodgers have 41 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: said as well. So this isn't a huge surprise by 42 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: any means. What is surprising is how good he is 43 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: at every position like I can like tie my shoes 44 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: and do something else. How can you be this good 45 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: at this many positions? 46 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: By the way, he just got second place in a 47 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: bowling tournament like three days after he won the World Series. 48 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 2: I mean, this guy's everything he does he does incredibly well. 49 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 2: But I ask you this, and obviously makes sense now 50 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 2: that the Dodgers could go after a right fielder or 51 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 2: at least at the very least re signed Taoscar Hernandez, 52 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: who I know a lot of people would love to 53 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: see back in Dodger blue. 54 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 3: Is that something that you could see? 55 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: And perhaps Brittany, with the amount of infielders that the 56 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: Dodgers now have, does that mean perhaps Gavin lux goes 57 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: someplace else. 58 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm glad you brought up Blucks because he kind 59 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: of seems like the odd being out with this news. 60 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: And as for Hernandez, they offered him the qualifying offer, 61 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: which is over twenty million dollars. I think that that's 62 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: a priority for them, keep a give. He said that 63 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: he would like to stay. Of course, when you hit 64 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,399 Speaker 1: the free agent market, things can change, and a verse 65 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: can change. Your intentions can change. But I think you 66 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: know when you look at the Dodgers. Certainly Lucks becomes expendable, 67 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: and definitely they're going to have to prioritize outfield help 68 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: right now. There's a lot of things the Dodgers have 69 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: to do if they're going to be the first team 70 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: in what's thirty plus years now to try to defend 71 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: their title and win back to back and become a 72 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: little bit of the dynasty that people believe that they 73 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 1: can be. And I think moving Mooki to the infield 74 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: makes them certainly stronger in the infield. But now they 75 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: kind of have another problem that they have to deal 76 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: with in terms of who's going to play right field 77 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: and who's going to play it at a level even 78 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: close to what mooky Bets is able to do. 79 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: And what you just mentioned, Britt is that molky Bets 80 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: is so talented he could play a variety of positions 81 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: and play them well gold globe Calivern type of defense 82 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 2: at each position. Do you see Mouki as the future 83 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: for the shortstop spot or do you see him at 84 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: second base? 85 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: Ooh, that's a good question. See, I think shortstop is 86 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: such a it's interesting to me that the Dodger said 87 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: that it's easier on his body, because shortstop is such 88 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: a taxing position. You are the captain of the infield, 89 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: You are constantly moving, you are involved in so much. 90 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: Not to say that second base isn't It's not a 91 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: comparison between shortstop and first base, for example, where you 92 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: hide people. I do think for now, shortstop remains the priority. 93 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: He still has the arm, he has the range, He 94 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: is an elite fielder. But I could see as he 95 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: gets older that becoming a spot for him to move to, 96 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: and that becoming something that he naturally kind of gravitates to. 97 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: But for now, I think LA would prefer to have 98 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: a guy like Mookie Bett's at. 99 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: Shortstop, and he certainly has Miguel Rojas there still, who 100 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 2: they picked up the option on to kind of continue 101 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: to provide that tutelage of the shortstop position. All right, 102 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: let's move our focus now, Britt, from the Los Angeles 103 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 2: Dodgers to the Saint Louis Cardinals. It seems like the 104 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 2: experiment of Wilson contreersts behind the plate is over for 105 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 2: the Redbirds. You can see what Katie wo there was 106 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 2: reporting that they're going to be moving Wilson contrerasts to 107 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 2: first base what. 108 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: Do you make of this decision A long time coming, Alanta, 109 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: I mean this deal from the very jump, I think 110 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: two months in when they signed him this five year deal. 111 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: If you remember, they benched him. They said they didn't 112 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: like what he was doing behind the plate, they needed 113 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: to work on it more. And then a week later, 114 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: he kind of mysteriously all of a sudden was back 115 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: and everything was I don't know fix. I think they 116 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: just figured out that wasn't the best move. Well, now 117 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: here they stand about forty percent of the way through 118 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: that contract. They kind of went to Contreras and said, hey, 119 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: this is where we're going. We know the Cardinals are 120 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: entering a little bit of a rebuilding situation. Contreras has 121 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: a full note trade clause, did not want to be traded. Instead, Alana, 122 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: he is accepting this hybrid role where he's mostly going 123 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: to play first base. It looks like occasionally we'll catch 124 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: The Cardinals are kind of playing it nicely in terms 125 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: of this will keep him healthier. But this isn't the 126 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: same scenario as a Mookie Bets right where they actually 127 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: are trying to keep him healthier. This is the scenario 128 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: I think where the Cardinals need to upgrade behind the plate. 129 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: Contreras has always been kind of a back first kind 130 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: of catcher, and you know, the issue, of course is 131 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: they went from a guy Yadi or Molina to a 132 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: guy who really is thought of as mostly hailed for 133 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: having the hitting ability in Wilson, and it just has 134 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: not worked out. So the Cardinals are trying to find 135 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: a way to keep Contreras's back but to also upgrade 136 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: defensively behind the plate, and this is the best way 137 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: to do it, especially because, like I said, he has 138 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: that no trade protection baked into this deal. 139 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 2: You mentioned something that I think a lot of people 140 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 2: have on their mind, brit and that's the fact that 141 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 2: I don't know if there's anybody out there that would 142 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 2: want to follow a Tom Brady, let's say, Yadi or 143 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: Molina behind the plate, a Buster Posey behind the plate 144 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 2: in San Francisco. How much of this situation with moving 145 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 2: Contreras over to first base has to deal with the 146 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: fact that you are trying to follow a Hall of 147 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: fame catcher potential manager in the big leagues in the future. 148 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 2: I don't envy that position for anybody. 149 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you, and they have some people 150 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: that they feel good about. They have Evan Herrera, they 151 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: have Pedro paa pa, thank you, thank you, Alta that 152 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: they feel better about. But certainly, I think when you 153 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: go from a guy like Yati, who had been such 154 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: a stand by there, who had made pitchers better and 155 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: was so elite at what he was doing, he basically 156 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: functioned as another manager for that team, and then you 157 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: go to a guy who is not even really league 158 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: average behind the plane, it's a huge drop off. You're right, 159 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: following Tom Brady is hard enough, but then you're following 160 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: Tom Brady with a guy who really is essentially probably 161 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: a backup quarterback in terms of skills on the field. 162 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: So I think that made it even worse. I think 163 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: the Cardinals pivoted so hard in terms of let's find 164 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: an offensive catcher, which is a very difficult thing to do. 165 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: You look around the league. Most catchers are defensive minded catchers. 166 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: Most catchers teams will just take whatever they get offensively 167 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: from them, and it presented a lot of problems. It 168 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: was a lot of problems on the pitching staff. As 169 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: I said, two months in, they already had a situation 170 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: where they were benching him. So I think it's a 171 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: combination of nobody wants to follow that guy you mentioned 172 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: Buster Posey, nobody wants to be that next person in line. 173 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: But they certainly did themselves no favors in going out 174 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: and saying Wilson and Trerez is going to be the 175 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: guy who follows YadA yir blina. I think this was 176 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: always destined to be a little bit of a problem. 177 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 2: Now do you think that perhaps they're just trying to 178 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 2: make the most of this free agent signing. I mean, 179 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 2: they gave him a five year deal, gave him a 180 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: decent amount of money. They're like, Okay, you know, maybe 181 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 2: that didn't work out, we're stuck with this contrast contract. Rather, 182 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: let's just move them to first base and hope for 183 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: the best behind the plate with the young up and comers. 184 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: I think that's exactly what they're doing. Like I said, 185 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: if he's not going to waive his no trade clause, 186 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: then you really are limited. And he is offensively a 187 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: productive player, so you don't want to bench if you 188 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: want his bat in the lineup. And this is what 189 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 1: we've seen time and time again from players who hit 190 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: who don't really have a position, is you put them 191 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: at first base. So this is what the Cardinals are 192 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: going to do moving forward to try to salvage this deal. 193 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: As I mentioned, we're about forty percent of the way 194 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: through this contract, so they're just trying to find a 195 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: way to recoup some of this value to get something 196 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: out of a guy like Contreras. 197 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're a first base you better know how 198 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 2: to slug because you're usually not there because of your 199 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: defensive prowess. All right, you recently wrote an article brit 200 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 2: in The Athletic comparing this whole Juan Soto sweepstakes to 201 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 2: the likes of Harper and Machado back in twenty nineteen. Obviously, 202 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 2: you've covered a lot of baseball for a long time. 203 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 2: What do you mean by the comparison? 204 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, God, think it wasn't oh nine right, or I 205 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: would like aliliate myself. I think when you look at 206 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: this though, a lot of people have a tendency to 207 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: now say, Okay, these are generational players who are hitting 208 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: free agency at twenty six, which doesn't really happen very often, 209 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: and all three of these guys free agents at twenty six, 210 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: like Harper and Butchado. What we are going to see 211 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: with Juan Soto now is teams that say or fans 212 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 1: that say, we don't want this guy. He's making too 213 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: much money, as if fans are paying the salary, but 214 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 1: they're going to look at him and say, is he 215 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: worth an entire payroll? And that was the case with 216 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: Bryce Harper, and that was the case with Bandy Butachado, 217 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: and this, if you remember, was also at a time 218 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: when clubs were universally cutting. These signings took until spring training, 219 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: and all you heard was how you know, well, Manny 220 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: has these issues and Bryce Harper has these issues. And 221 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: what you're hearing from Soto right now out of certain camps, 222 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: which is undoubtedly coming from teams Alana, is well, he's 223 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: going to be a DH. He's a future DH. Listen, one, 224 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: Soda is only twenty six years old. He definitely has 225 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: defensive issues, but he can play, in my opinion, at 226 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: least a few more years on the field. You are 227 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: not signing up for a six hundred million dollar DH tomorrow. 228 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: He does have value. As we just said with Contreras, 229 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: maybe you move him to first base. But what you 230 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 1: are seeing, and what I remember Max Scherr's are saying 231 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: to me is that players don't realize when you go 232 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: to free agency, it is open season, not just on 233 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: everything good you do, but on everything bad you do 234 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: and why teams shouldn't spend that kind of money. So 235 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: why Scott Boris is spending all his time driving up 236 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: the market or hearing about mystery teams and the Tampa 237 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: Bay Rays and all these random teams that are into 238 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: it as we should that as part of his job 239 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: is to feed the media of these things and to 240 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: make it seem as if this is a huge competition, 241 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: even though in my mind really is a two maybe 242 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: three horse kind of thing. But what you're also going 243 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: to hear from teams is is he worth that kind 244 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: of money? Should we do that if we can't spend 245 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 1: any more money. So you're really seeing it from two sides, 246 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: and we haven't seen a player like this since Harper 247 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: and Machada. I think there is a lot of parallels 248 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: here when you look at the free agencies and how 249 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: this is going to play out. He's not going to 250 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: sign next week. We're going to see this drawn out 251 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: by Boris. We're going to see, like I said, pros 252 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: and cons. And at the end of the day, I 253 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: think Harper and Machada both have lived up to their deals. 254 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: It's crazy. Only they only made three hundred million, right, 255 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: that wasn't even that long ago, And it's like, oh 256 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: it was only it was only three hundred billion won. 257 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: Soto could get twice that. What will that look like 258 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: in three four years? Will teams regret it? I tend 259 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 1: to say that they won't, but we will see. 260 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, recency bias is a real thing. Let me ask 261 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 2: thank you this before we move on for a second. 262 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: Britt you talk about I remember where exactly where I 263 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 2: was when I found out that the Dodgers signed I 264 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 2: wasn't covering the Dodgers exclusively at the time. When the 265 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 2: Dodgers signed show Hey Otani to a seven hundred million 266 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 2: dollar deal, I said, are. 267 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 3: You kidding me? Are you kidding me? 268 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 2: But then you think about the return on investment for 269 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 2: an international phenom in show Hey. I don't know that 270 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 2: one Sodo carries that same type of ROI. I mean, 271 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 2: sho Hey obviously has two countries behind him at this point, 272 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 2: so one Sodo can't pitch he. 273 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 3: Is a bit of a liability. 274 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 2: Defensively, what do you estimate this contract to be as 275 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 2: far as millions of dollars? Just based on what the 276 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 2: teams think that they can get back in return for him, well. 277 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: I think he's after records, all of that hitt. He's 278 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: after that AAV that Otaddi has. He knows he coun't 279 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: get seven hundred billion for the reasons you mentioned that. Also, 280 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: most importantly, he's not going to be able to defer 281 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: ninety eight percent of his contract the way that sho 282 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: hey O Toadi was. I think what we're looking is 283 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: like five eighty, you know, five ninety, maybe even low 284 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: six hundred millions. But I think what you're going to 285 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: see is that AAV is a record, That AAV is 286 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: higher than show hey o Tom's. That is what he's 287 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: after more than anything. I wrote this sprig a big 288 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: article on him and everything that transpired. You know, his 289 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: preference for the East Coast and really it has been 290 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: for a long time pretty much since he signed that deal, 291 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: a huge, huge thing for his camp to be able 292 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: to beat that AAV. So that's what I expect, and 293 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: the years will kind of I think fit in. You know, 294 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: is it ten years, is it twelve years. That's going 295 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: to depend on what the final number is that gets 296 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: him to that record. I think that is the most 297 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: important thing here for him at his camp. 298 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess my question was, are you willing to 299 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 2: spend five hundred or more million on what is perceived 300 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 2: to be relatively just an offensive player. However, Mark, our boss, 301 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 2: wanted me to tell the world that Soto had ten 302 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 2: outfield assists this year and last year he led the 303 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: league in assists from a right field. Okay, we get it, Mark, 304 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 2: you want them to stay a Yankee. We get it, 305 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 2: we get it, we get it, all right. Chimed out 306 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 2: to switch gears to Grill and brit. 307 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 1: All right. 308 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 2: Our first question is in regards to the Cubs and 309 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 2: the off season. 310 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 3: Not a lot of noise yet for the Cubs. 311 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 2: We do know Cody Billinger apparently is going back to 312 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 2: the Cubbies. So the question is this from Jesus Modicio, 313 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: who do the Cubs sun this soft season hoping for 314 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 2: pitching like Bmueller? Hey, Haus, you stay away from Mueller, 315 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: he's ours. 316 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: I think starting pitching is where the Cubs go. And 317 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: you know, this is a huge winter for the Cubs. 318 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: They're in my mind, one of the top two or 319 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: three teams to watch because everything they've done. You looked 320 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: at what they did last year, and it was such 321 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: a disappointing year. They thought they were going to be 322 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: a team that contended, and everything they've done already to 323 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: this point kind of pivoting to data, getting rid of 324 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: a lot of scouts, streamlining their operation. I think for 325 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: Jed Hoyer, what they've wanted to do is they need 326 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: to go out and they need to upgrade starting pitching wise. 327 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: And I was told the other day that, you know, 328 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: they're kind of looking at that B level, to which 329 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: I kind of wonder a lot of why would the 330 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: Cubs not go after the top starting pitchers available? Right 331 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: you are the Chicago Cubs. At some point, you have 332 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: to be the Chicago Cubs. I think there is enough 333 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: pitching out there that they can go out there and 334 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: they can upgrade with the starting rotation. But to me, 335 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: I'd like for the Cubs to make a splash, you know, 336 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: not a Wan Sodo type of thing. They're not going 337 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: to be players there. But for me and for that 338 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: fan base, I think you should go out. You should 339 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: get the top tier kind of starting pitchers and really 340 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: fill out that rotation and see where you go. Because 341 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: this is a lot of pressure on Craig council. This 342 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: Cubs team has got to deliver, and certainly Jen Hoyer 343 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: knows this as well. I'm curious what else they do internally. 344 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: They've made a lot of they say, tweaks to their 345 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: player development. Some of these young guys that they have 346 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: that are a big part of this core need to 347 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: take that next step forward. In addition to the Cubs 348 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: really upgrading, I would like to see two upgrades to 349 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: that starting rotation. 350 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 2: And you can certainly do that with the money that 351 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: you would spend on a one SODO type of contract. Okay, 352 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 2: another question in Cubs land, actually in Chicago land, going 353 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 2: from the Cubs to the White Sox, what does. 354 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 3: The trade market look like? 355 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 2: I know, right when you're talking about the White Sox, 356 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: you're like, oh boy, what does the trade market look 357 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 2: like for Garrett Crochet? 358 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: Well, it's strong. I mean, he didn't do too much 359 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: to damage it because he didn't get hurt down the stretch, 360 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: which was the big concern among rival executives when they 361 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: weren't able to trade him. So, you know, this is 362 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: probably the last good chip that the White Sox have 363 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: to deal. And we know the White Sox are going 364 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: to rebuild. They have been very very clear on that 365 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: they've got a new manager, second year GM, Chris Getz. 366 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: I think most teams that need started pitching are going 367 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: to check in on Garrett Crochet. And let's be clear, 368 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: the White Sox got very close to dealing him at 369 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: the deadline, even with the caveat that he wasn't going 370 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: to pitch in the playoffs. So, because this happens every 371 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: year where there's such a scarcity for starting pitchers, I 372 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: think you're looking at a lot of teams that want 373 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: to upgrade and that want to check in on a 374 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: guy like Crochet. I would imagine we're in the double 375 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: digits in terms of suitors for him. It seems like 376 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: a Winter Meetings deal, that would be my guess. I 377 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,959 Speaker 1: think this is something that they've already laid a lot 378 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: of groundwork in conversations because they wanted to trade him 379 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 1: in July. I wouldn't be surprised that all if he moves, 380 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: and he moves pretty early next month, like I said 381 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: during the Winter meetings, because I think the White Sox 382 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: want to just start this rebuild. They want to get 383 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: what they can for Crochet and move forward. It does 384 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: them no good to continue to have him pitch for 385 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: the Chicago White Sox. 386 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, trade him while his value is very high. Speaking 387 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 2: of high value, if you listen to Scott Boris Britt, 388 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 2: you know that he has a lot of belief in 389 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 2: Alex Bregman. He called him ab positive, injecting a lot 390 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 2: of a championship stuff there with Bregman. So the question 391 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 2: is do you think with Bregman's elbow surgery, will this 392 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 2: hamper his free agent value and the amount of money 393 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 2: that he's going to get. He's probably not staying in Houston. 394 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 2: I think they already would have extended him. So where 395 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 2: does he go? 396 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,239 Speaker 1: I think the Oriels are an interesting pick. I mean 397 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: Houston will I think probably be in the mix. But 398 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 1: historically a lot as you know, they just haven't been 399 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: willing to swim in those deep waters for free agents. 400 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: For the first part of the question, I don't expect 401 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: that this is going to do anything to hamper his market. He's, 402 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: you know, one of the top guys available. He's a 403 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: guy who really has a really good reputation for being 404 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 1: a leader in the clubhouse. He's a hard worker. I 405 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: don't think that this is going to be anything that 406 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: clubs are going to be wary of, especially given his age, 407 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: given his productivity when he was able to couplesh in Houston. 408 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: I mentioned the Orioles. I think Toronto would be a 409 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: good fit as well. I think they could use some upgrades. 410 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 1: I think most teams when they look at a guy 411 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: like Alex Breckman also are considering the intangibles, you know, 412 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: the veteran presence, which is why I think he'd be 413 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: so big in Baltimore, a team that really struggled and 414 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 1: didn't have that veteran presence, and it showed up, in 415 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: my opinion, in that early playoff thanksit so I think 416 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,959 Speaker 1: Alex Bregman is a guy to watch. He could be 417 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: a Boris client that goes fairly early, especially because you 418 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: know he's not going to be hampered or waiting for 419 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: the Wan soda market like so many other guys are. 420 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: Alex Bregman is going to get paid, and I agree 421 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: with you. I think he's probably done a hous staid. 422 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: Accept the Jim Craige factor, right, we know how involved 423 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: Jim Crade is. We know that jose Al Tuove has 424 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: already pitched publicly to keep him. So will Jim Crane 425 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 1: kind of reverse his stance. Will he do a little 426 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: bit more that he has in the past to bring 427 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: back a guy who's been such a fabric of that 428 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 1: team over the last decade. I think they're a little 429 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: bit of an X factor here. 430 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 2: I would love to see Alex Bregman finish his career 431 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 2: as an astro, but I understand he's going to demand 432 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 2: quite the price tag, if you will. All right, speaking 433 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: of Boris and also a team that you know incredibly well, 434 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 2: the Baltimore Orioles. You spent a lot of time there. 435 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 2: Our next question here on Grill and Britt. This is 436 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 2: from Jake Rill. Does Scott Boris think Orioles can spend 437 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 2: for Corbyn Burns. Mike has told me that Baltimore is 438 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 2: in a position to be highly competitive and we're going 439 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 2: to meet on a number of players, So I definitely 440 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 2: think they have an attitude to pursue levels of acquiring 441 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 2: some great players. Now this is a new ownership group, Britt. 442 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 2: You know that Michael Lias obviously has done some good 443 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: things there, but now he has a little bit more 444 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 2: of a checkbook to work with. Are they going to 445 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 2: spend and will they re sign Corbon Burns? 446 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: I think they're going to spend. I don't think they're 447 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: going to resign corbon Burns. I think, you know, you 448 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: look at Corbin Burns, the best starting picture available. We've 449 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: heard what that he wants a seven year deal. The 450 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: Orioles are going to swim in deeper free agent waters, 451 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 1: as they should this winter. But I would be very 452 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: surprised if Michael Lias and his ownership group and his 453 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: GM group decides that they're going to go for the 454 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: biggest fish available. I think, similar to the Cubs, they're 455 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: looking at that next tier down. They're looking for deals. 456 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: They're looking for guys that they can tweak and uncover. 457 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 1: And this is independent in my opinion of the ownership group. 458 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: I think the ownership group is going to give them 459 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: the flexibility and the freedom to spend. Certainly, there's nowhere 460 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: to go but up when you look at the payroll 461 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: and what the Orioles have on the books. But I 462 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: think this front office group, you know, they came from Houston, 463 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: They're very rooted in data and analytics, and I think 464 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: what they really don't want to do is go out 465 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: there and just throw money around. So they're going to 466 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: be smart. They are very risk averse and until I 467 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 1: see a blockbuster kind of deal, I'm going to continue 468 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: to think that they're going to operate in that shorter sphere, 469 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: in that three four year kind of deals. You know, 470 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: take a look at Michael Waka and what he resent 471 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: in for in Kansas City. That would be a type 472 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: of deal that I would envision that the Orioles would do, 473 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: because they don't just have a whole of Corbyn Birds. 474 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 1: You Corbyn Burns was terrific for them, Alana, but they 475 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: have other things they need to address. They're losing Anthony Sentad, 476 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: They're huge part of their lineup. They've got, like, like 477 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: I mentioned, some veteran issues. I think they need a 478 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: veteran presence in there. I don't think they're going to 479 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: bring back Corbyn Birds, though. I love the way Scott 480 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: Boris kind of says nothing but everything all at the 481 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: same time with these quotes. 482 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously, Jake Real covers the Orioles for MLB dot Com, 483 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 2: and that's he's the one that tweeted about what Scott 484 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 2: Boris was saying there. Let me ask you this, though, 485 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 2: continuing with Baltimore for just a second, is Baltimore watching 486 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 2: Britt what the Yankees do in the off season in 487 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 2: terms of perhaps do they keep Sodo do they not? 488 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 2: I mean, does that change their thought process at all 489 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 2: being within that same division as the Yanks. 490 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: No, I don't think it can. I mean, they know 491 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: they're not going to swim in the Soda waters. They 492 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 1: know they're not the New York Yankees, So they have 493 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: to win different ways. And I think the way they 494 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: win a lot of big part of how the Orioles 495 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: win is having these young players take a step forward. 496 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: And you know, for people who don't follow along very 497 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: intimately with the Orioles, their coaching staff got totally revamped 498 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: under manager brand At Hyde this winter. They're really looking 499 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: to find a way, especially on the hitting side, to 500 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: advance these guys. You know, Gunnar Henderson down the stretch 501 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 1: wasn't very good. Adley Rutchman, you know, it was so 502 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 1: bad that people thought that he was hurt, you know, 503 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: and they have said that he is perfectly healthy. These 504 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: are guys that they need to take a step forward. 505 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: Jordan Westbrook, they need to find a way, Jackson holiday 506 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: to make these guys stars. So a lot of the 507 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: Oils improvement is going to come from those guys taking 508 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 1: the next step forward, and then from Adam pieces here 509 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: and there, from adding you know what are two starters. 510 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: You know, their rotation should get a little bit healthier. 511 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: Kyle Braddy should be coming back, John Meads, they should 512 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: have guys, Grace said. Rodriguez will probably benefit from having 513 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: a healthy and normal off season. So for the Orioles, 514 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,239 Speaker 1: I think that's what they're looking at, and they're not 515 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: looking at, well, are Theyekeys going to get you Jan 516 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: soda or not? Because they had GluN sodo all year 517 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 1: they competed with the Yeakeys that had blood sodo. So 518 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: it doesn't really change anything. I think their front office 519 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 1: mentality has always been we're underdogs, how do we win 520 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: on the margins. I don't expect that to change. 521 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they have a lot of a young, good talent, 522 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,719 Speaker 2: but you're right, a veteran presence would begun. And they 523 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 2: need more than just one, you know, Corbyn Burns frontline starter. 524 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 2: They need a couple of pieces there in that starting rotation. 525 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 2: All right, let's go to dude and dork next. This 526 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,239 Speaker 2: is where Britt and I talk about our dude of 527 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 2: the week and our dork of the week as well, Britt, 528 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 2: I will defer to you who is your dude of 529 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 2: the week. 530 00:23:56,119 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Skip Schumacher, who you know, as know, 531 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: in my opinion, one of the best managers in the game, 532 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: certainly well thought of. Was the real prize this winter 533 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: in terms of free agent managers. Did a terrific job 534 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: in in a horrendous situation in Miami. As you can see, 535 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: they're hired by the Rangers. This is a win win. 536 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: The Rangers now have a guy to succeed Bruce Bochie, 537 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: especially because you know they they had a guy to 538 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 1: succeed Bruce Bochie in Will Venable. He took the Chicago 539 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: White Sox job, So now you know they have somebody there. 540 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: And for Skip Schumacher, he's able to go to a 541 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 1: different organization. You know, he exercised his right and the 542 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: Marlins allowed him to get out of his contract early. 543 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 1: Now goes to a Texas organization where he knows he 544 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: can have that job at some point. He can also 545 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: take the year, wait around and if a better job 546 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: opens up, take that somewhere else. You know, I'm certain 547 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: that's written into his contract as well. So this is 548 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: a really good move and especially a Chris Young, who 549 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: is a very progressive front office. He's surrounded by former players, 550 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: a lot of advisors as well. That you're adding another 551 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: guy like Skip Schumacher who's not just a forper player 552 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: but has also been a very successful manager. 553 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, Skip Schumacher is a great baseball mind. I thought 554 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 2: perhaps that he might be the next manager of the Cardinals, 555 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 2: but they decided Oliver marmol is going to stay there. 556 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 2: I do think though, that he's kind of that manager 557 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 2: in waiting when Bruce bochie britt Re retires, and to 558 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 2: your point, if something else opens up, he certainly can 559 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 2: exercise that right as well. My dude of the week 560 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 2: is the San Diego Padres A J. Preller and Mike 561 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 2: Shilt for giving Shilt an extension. I mean, I was 562 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 2: so confused when the Cardinals allowed Mike Shilt to walk 563 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 2: because difference in philosophy. I thought when the San Diego 564 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 2: Padres picked him up, it was such a great move. 565 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 2: I tell you, if you listen to any of the 566 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 2: Dodgers players, they thought that the Padres this year, especially 567 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 2: in the NLDS, was the toughest team that they played 568 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 2: all season long. And these guys play for Shilt. They 569 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: respect Shildt. He's got a good roster, he's a good 570 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 2: baseball manager. So the dude of the week is the 571 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 2: Padres for extending him and keeping him in that position. 572 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: All right. 573 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 3: Time Now for the John Fisher Dork of the Week. 574 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 4: Okay, if you're not in a fair territory, Yes, with 575 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 4: Ken Rosenthal, we have named it the John Fisher Dork 576 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 4: of the Week because he has been the dork of 577 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 4: the week himself for so many times, we thought that 578 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 4: it was appropriate that he the award be named after him. 579 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 3: Okay, what is who is your dork of the week. 580 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: So it's anybody out there who read the reports that 581 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: the Boston Red Sox ownership was going to spend on 582 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: lod Soto and thought that that was real. Because we 583 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: may hear it all winter a lot of Like I said, 584 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: we may hear the Tiapa Bay Rays. But Dan Chelds 585 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: he sums it up so well you don't have to 586 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: say anything else. I mean, this is just classic based 587 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: on what the ownership group has done, you know, based 588 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: on the issues they've had in terms of keeping somebody 589 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: in charge, and I think any continuity, we're now going 590 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 1: to believe that they're going to go out and outbid 591 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: Steve Cohen and al Steinbrenner for Wan Sodo. Like what 592 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: you know, it just doesn't make any sense at all. 593 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: So I'm sorry, di burst everyone's bubble. I generally hope 594 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 1: for Red Sox fans. I have friends, good friends who 595 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: are die hard fans. I generally hope that the Red 596 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: Sox go on this tear, become the Red Sox again. 597 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 1: And I go on this show, and I apologize for 598 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: this because they do sign want Soda. I just don't 599 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: see it happening right now. And I think getting that 600 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: fan base's hopes up is just cruel. These people have suffered, 601 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 1: they've been through a lot, and now they're dealing with 602 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: these reports that wants Sodo is somehow in the mix 603 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: to come to Fedway Park. 604 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 2: Oh come on, Brittany. You know everyone's kicking the tires 605 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 2: on everybody. Everyone kicks the tires, all right. 606 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 3: Yes. 607 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 2: Our producer, Jeremy Meyer is a huge Red Sox fan 608 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 2: born in Boston. He's like, he's so sick of this, 609 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 2: this whole thing that they're going to spend money. He's like, 610 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 2: they will not do it, all right, My dork of 611 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 2: the week is myself. I don't know if you happen 612 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 2: to see Dodgers Territory with Clint Psius, who we do 613 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 2: a show two times a week. 614 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 3: We were trying to talk about the top five. 615 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 2: Dodgers that may not be a Dodger next season, and 616 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 2: in my head I had this great idea of packaging 617 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 2: Tommy Edmund and Max Munsey and perhaps another player in 618 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 2: a three team deal. And in my head it sounded 619 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 2: better than when I actually verbalized it, and I got 620 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 2: absolutely blown up. And I understand what you're saying, everybody, 621 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 2: I get it. I'm not a GM. My resume is 622 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 2: that of a sideline reporter and a long form interviewer. 623 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 2: So I'm not in the front office. Calm down, I 624 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 2: am my own dork of the week. I will stick 625 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 2: to interviews, Okay. I will not make any roster decisions 626 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: anything like that. All right, So before we let you go, 627 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 2: what are you working on next? Sprit? 628 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: I have a fun story. At as you might relate 629 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: to this as being a sideline reporter, people may not 630 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: be aware that baseball weddings take place in like a 631 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: two month span. So right now, all these baseball players 632 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: who got engaged are in their wedding season, so they're 633 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: either happening basically November December. Sometimes guys do it in January. 634 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: But there's a lot of funny stories related to players 635 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: who you know, play deep into the World Series or 636 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: just in terms of wedding planning and trying to pull 637 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: this off in a very short span of time. So 638 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: mixing it up a little, have a little fun. I'm 639 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: too pregnant to fly, so I'm not at the GM meetings, 640 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: so that will be probably the next story for the 641 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: U less won Soda side somewhere and I'm totally wrong, 642 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: and then I get to be your dork of the week. 643 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, so then you're gonna go to Boston for the 644 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 3: Wan Soda press conference. 645 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, so I agree with you. November December is 646 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 2: massive wedding season. Of course, last year the Texas Rangers 647 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 2: were in the World Series and Corey Seeger World Series 648 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 2: MVP had to miss his brother Justin's wedding, who they 649 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 2: got married in November because they are actually earlier in October. 650 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 2: Because they were like, oh, well, you know, maybe the 651 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 2: Rangers don't make. 652 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 3: The World Series. 653 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 2: They did, and Corey missed Justin's wedding, so see baseball 654 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 2: taken presidents, but precedents. But you have to remember these 655 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 2: guys are players, but they're also people first. All right, Britt, 656 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 2: thank you so much for being here. 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