1 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets Podcast powered 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: by Amazon Web Services. Ethan Greenberg, Erick Allen Here in 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: the home studios for the foreseeable future. We have Neville 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: Hewitt on the podcast today and a unique moment for 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: us e A when Neville Hewitt signs on to do 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: the podcast on at the same time on Twitter, we 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: see reports that Greg Williams no longer the defensive coordinator 8 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: for the Jets. Yeah. In fact, we're taping right now, 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: just a few moments before Adam Gates is gonna jump 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: on a conference call and most of the questions that 11 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: he's going to take is about the removal of Greg Williams. Uh, 12 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: we'll have to see who the interim defensive coordinator is 13 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: because at this moment we don't even know that. But yeah, 14 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: life in the National Football League is tough. Greg Williams 15 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: did a lot of good things with the New York 16 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: Jets over the past two seasons, but unfortunately it didn't 17 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: work out. We go back to what happened at the 18 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: end of the game. Jets Raiders. Just a really tough 19 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: situation all the way around. The Jets try to get 20 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: there with the pressure. Lamar Jackson's one on one situation 21 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: with Henry Ruggs. Ruggs the first draft, the first receiver 22 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: drafted last April, undrafted free agent Jackson no safety help 23 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: and Derek Carr was able to step up in the 24 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: pocket and deliver and man a lot of raw emotions 25 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: on that jet sideline at that Life Stadium. And we 26 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 1: talked to Neville Hewitt about that, and Neville he would 27 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: stories really cool undrafted free agent. He has a great 28 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: story about his mother that I'm not going to share 29 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: because as his story to tell. So let's hear from 30 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: the Jets mic linebackers. You know, never before we continue on, 31 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: I think your hands blocking your face here. This is 32 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: like a nutshell. It's like, this is what happened with 33 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: the virtual interviews in the virtual podcast that we can't 34 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: frame you up with our own camera. So thank you 35 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: for adjusting your shot. You know you mentioned pushing yourself 36 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 1: past your limit. Can you take us through what you're 37 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: off season was like and what you wanted to accomplish 38 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: heading into it, and then how the pandemic affected what 39 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: you wanted to accomplish. Yeah, I was um. I was 40 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: working out about four or five times a day at 41 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: the gym, um, and the pandemic hit and we had 42 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: to stop for like two weeks. So I actually, um, 43 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: I was standing in the studio apartment and I started, 44 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: uh working out. I had to do some of my 45 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: workouts there until I was waiting for my town house 46 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: to finished getting being built, and um, so I'm working 47 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: out in there. I'm working in the little living room 48 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: and Stuff'm doing that for like two weeks and then 49 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: like we get back into the gym and it's just, 50 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: you know, my whole plans office would like to push 51 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: myself so wherever I played. I was a free agent, 52 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: so I was I didn't know where I was gonna be. 53 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: So my whole plan was to going there and and 54 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: be prepared to compete with whoever is in front of 55 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 1: me or whoever is there. And just my mindset going 56 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: into every season is just being prepared to compete, you know, 57 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: to win the position battles or whatever whatever the team 58 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: wants me to do. Just be prepared, you know, to win. 59 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: And I mean it worked out well. How have you 60 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: adjusted because you are the mic linebacker? A lot of 61 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: people would say earlier in your career, nice dude, hard worker, 62 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: very quiet, but now that to be the guy who's 63 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: always talking. Yeah, I mean it's it's one of those 64 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: things where you have to step up, step up to 65 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: the row. Um. I was a well linebacker until I 66 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: pretty much got here in uh my third year, fourth 67 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: my fourth year. Once I got here in New York, 68 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: I start playing inside more and I mean I love it. 69 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: You know, everything that's playing out. How that I actually 70 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: praised for it? You know, so is it's a blessing 71 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: be here. You know, Neville, you were talking it about 72 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,119 Speaker 1: working out in your studio apartment. For someone as big 73 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: as you, who I assumed loves going to the gym, 74 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: was it difficult at first just being confined to your 75 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: apartment and missing what would be like a different, more difficult, 76 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: challenging workout when you have access to an entire gym flour. 77 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: I mean, the whole experience was crazy to me because 78 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: when I wasn't supposed to be at that apartment, and 79 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: then so when when when it happened, it was like 80 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: it made it even worse. But it was like, like 81 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: I said, things in life happened, and everything happened for 82 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: a reason, and um, life goes on, so you just 83 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: had to adjust with it. And you know, I know, 84 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: I knew the work that I was putting in before 85 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: the pandemic actually hit. I knew I was at a 86 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: really good place, and I knew I had to keep 87 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: on going, keep on doing something with cardio core. And 88 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: once the you know, once they we was able to 89 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: get back in kind of get back to some type 90 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: of normal because I lived in Georgia, so and George 91 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: has been opened. So once we opened back up, I 92 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: was able to get back in the gym and finish 93 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: off where I left off. What were you doing in 94 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: the apartment? Was up? Chin ups? Up? Ordered all kind 95 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: of stuff from ama At, like things you could do 96 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: curls and uh push that jump ropes. I got video 97 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: of this stuff. It's crazy. Yeah, I wanna put something 98 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: together that I got a lot of videos. So Amazon 99 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: was a good friend of yours. And I'm sure the 100 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: rest of the world like myself and e A and 101 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: this podcast powered by Amazon Web Services. How about them apples? 102 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: That was great man and dumbbells anywhere, you know, so 103 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: you have to have to find what you can get, ya, 104 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: you know. Wh I could picture Neville taking a couple 105 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: like gallon water jugs, like one of the big coolers 106 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: and just curling nose. You know, see a lot of 107 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: videos online people getting creative. I figured, I figured, if 108 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: you're in a studio apartment and you realize like, oh, 109 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: I have to order some stuff and things got backed up, 110 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: you have to get pretty creative. I could see novel 111 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: push Trunks about one doing that. I was running because 112 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: you know in the in the buildings you have those 113 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: the driveways or the garages where that go up. So 114 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: I will go to the top of the top of 115 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: the garage and run sprints up there and jump ropes 116 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: and all kinds of stuff. It was crazy. How much 117 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: pride do you have as far as your background being 118 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: undrafted free agent and now the guy playing next to you, 119 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: Harvey Longing. I think you guys are such an interesting 120 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: pair because you both play like it's going to be 121 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: your last rup the next one, yeah, well one coming 122 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: in the league undrafted, you see a whole another side. 123 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You always have to you're 124 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: always fighting. I was fighting trying to get to the 125 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: other side and get the same respected that yeahs that 126 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: are drafted, because you could feel like you're playing at 127 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: that same level or even better than them. But they're 128 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: going to get more shots. To you, that's just the 129 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: reality of it, you know what I'm saying, because that's 130 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: who you know, the team invested in, and it makes 131 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: sense so for us and for both of us. Then 132 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: had uh got crazy stories. You know, Harvey was in 133 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: a car accident, UM almost lost his life. And and me, 134 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: you know, I come from background where you know, my 135 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: mom was concerated. I come from come from nothing. I 136 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: went to junior college, UM, then went to you know, 137 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: Division one, and I had next surgery. So and a 138 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: lot of the teams passed up on me, you know, 139 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: going into the draft, and I had the opportunity to 140 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: go to Miami, so UM and I got hurt in Miami, 141 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: and I remember being inside of these doctors offices and 142 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: and having the way to get cleared because that I 143 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: had a stinger that you know, lasted longer than it 144 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: was supposed to. And I just remember being in there 145 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: and know and remember how I felt like all I 146 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: want to do is just play football, you know what 147 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And we all want to get paid and 148 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: all that stuff, but we all here because we love 149 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: this game. We put so much into and you just 150 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: want to play, and I knew for me, every time 151 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: I go out there, I know it's about for me 152 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: about respect. You know what I'm saying. I haven't in 153 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: business league for a while, and every time I'm going 154 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: out them trying to earn respect to my teammates and 155 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: the people I'm playing again. So um, that's every time 156 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 1: we go out there, And that's why I tell the 157 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: guys man like yesterday, I told him, make a name 158 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: for yourself. A lot of people are starting, and you 159 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: probably want to be starting if you were somewhere else. 160 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: So just make the most of this opportunity because you 161 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: never know what game and what day is gonna be 162 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: your last play. And if you don't, if you don't 163 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: give it, you're all you're gonna regret it. You have 164 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: such an inspirational story. There's so many ways we can 165 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 1: go off of what you just said, and I know 166 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 1: green as a number of follow ups. I just before 167 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: we get back into your story a little bit, can 168 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: I ask you what it feels like when you got 169 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: a shot at the quarterback like you did against Ryan 170 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick over a week ago and he doesn't know you 171 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: are coming. Oh my goodness, when I came through there 172 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: because I've been running that pattern a few times throughout 173 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: the game and running through there and I'm like, I'm 174 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: not getting there, but I'm getting close. I'm getting close 175 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: in the find. When I finally got through, I said, oh, 176 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: I got him. I mean, it felt amazing because I 177 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: was getting there all weekend practicing. I knew I was 178 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: gonna get one. I just didn't know when it was 179 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: gonna come. And the way it came it was beautiful, 180 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: and it really was. It was such a fine shot. 181 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: Fitz is such a tough player himself, but I was like, wow, Nevill, 182 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: when you get after dude, guys are gonna feel it. Yeah, 183 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: I know, I feel I feel that the next day, 184 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: So I know, do you have going off of that? 185 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite hit of your career? At 186 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: one point it was it was the hit against some 187 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: At one point it was the hit against the Bills. Um, 188 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: what's that? Running back? What's it? Chris Ivory had hit 189 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: on one time and he had some type of like 190 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: weird like flip, But I don't know that. Lamar Lamar 191 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: Jackson last year was it was a good one, and 192 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 1: but this year, I mean, it was some crazy hitt. 193 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 1: This year, haven't even went back. I think you know 194 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: what my all time favorite might be when I hit 195 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: the guy from the Eagles and he had did that 196 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: flip in the middle of the field last year. Time 197 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: for you right now, Hey, let's get back to your 198 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: mom for a second. I don't know if everybody is 199 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: aware of your story. You mentioned that she was incarcerated. 200 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: What did she actually go to prison? Four? And then 201 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: also where is she at your relationship at this stage 202 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: or both your life's Um, she went to prison for 203 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: drug trafficking. M her and somebody was in the car 204 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: she was sleeping. They got pulled over and she had 205 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 1: got she had yes since she was since like some 206 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: crazy twenty five years and thirties something like that. And 207 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: then um she was um about to come out and 208 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: then um immigration put a detainer on her. She got 209 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: deported and we actually went to court once UM wond 210 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 1: up pill. Then after we wonted pill, were supposed to 211 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: go back to court and they moved the date. And 212 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: then this year we're supposed to go to court in 213 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: February and they moved it there again, and then the 214 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: pandemic hit until they moved it next year. Wow. Yeah, 215 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: So she she's in Jamaica and right now we're working 216 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: on a remodel in the house we just bought there. 217 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: So we're going off of that nevill like what was 218 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: your childhood like that? And who who was that person 219 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,719 Speaker 1: for you that it was a shoulder to lean on 220 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 1: and and tried to and raised you grown up. Um. 221 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: At one point I was staying I was still staying 222 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: at the house in Georgia with Um, her ex boyfriend 223 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 1: at the time. And then I decided to go to 224 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: Georgian Military College and things started getting kind of rocket. 225 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: That has like seven Division one scholarships. And I still 226 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: played basketball. So sometimes after a while I was at 227 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: the house and like the lights will be all because 228 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: he wasn't coming there all the time, and the lights 229 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: will be off, water to be off, and I played basketball, 230 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: So I take showers at the school, the school lunch 231 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: and and and in school breakfast and lunch. That was 232 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: my meals for the day. So I had friends like Riley, 233 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: my good friends. Riley. He used to look up for me, 234 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: him and his mom. And I was dating this girl. 235 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: Her mom to found out about my situation and she 236 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: kind of started helping me out. And then I got 237 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: my friend Grady Jared on the place for the falcons um. 238 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: He he looked out for me, like his family looked 239 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: out for me a lot, and like like when I graduated, 240 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: I stayed over there for like two weeks until I 241 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: went to college. Once I went to Georgia Military College 242 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: and my grandmother she's also there that uh looked off 243 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: for me to care of me. My friend Mike, and 244 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: I got a lot of people that a lot of 245 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: people came in and helped me out. Man. And you 246 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: know that's why I said, life goes on, man, Stuff 247 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: happens and you just gotta keep going. Yeah, what have 248 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 1: you learned from your mom throughout this whole process? What 249 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: has been like that everything that you guys have gone 250 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: through together? Now, My mom is so positive and stuff 251 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: like she just she's positive. Man. She just always up 252 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: left and she always The one thing I leed by 253 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: my mom is um. She always told me if you're 254 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 1: gonna do something, I always do your best dat it 255 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: and then um she always to help people. So for me, 256 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: I always look at my thing is I always now 257 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: that the more I learned, the more I want to 258 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: teach people younger than me. You know what I'm learning 259 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: in that way, they don't fall into what the people 260 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 1: I've seen when I was growing up, you know what 261 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: they was doing. Just change change the mindset of the 262 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: young the next generation. So you know, whether whenever, whenever 263 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: it's saving your money or finding a trade or something 264 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: that you're good at, and you know, going after that 265 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: and and don't fall into the trap that's out here. 266 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: You got to use that platform. Man, You're so positive 267 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: and you have always put your head down and just 268 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: worked really hard to get to this point. And I 269 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: know you also a novel, I have reached a point 270 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: in your career where you're not content either. With that 271 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: being said, how would you describe the season if somebody 272 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: hadn't seen you a long time and said, novel, what's 273 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: been going on with the Jets? This here? Man? It's 274 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: when you look at us. Man, we came here with 275 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: a lot of people that was here, a lot of 276 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: trades than happened. A lot of you know, people got cut. Um. 277 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: You know a lot of young a lot of younger 278 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: guys had to step up and Um, we've been in 279 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: games that I feel like we should have won. Um 280 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: we had like sometimes there's a caller to that you 281 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: may want back. There's there's a player too that the 282 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: players may want back. Um, And for some reason, we 283 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: just we've been following very short. We've been falling short 284 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: week after week after weekend. It's frustrating, and UM, I 285 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: don't really know what what the main problem is, because 286 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: you know, you you try to call the problem, you 287 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: start pointing fingers and stuff like that. It's collectively, we 288 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: haven't done it as a as an organization, you know 289 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And everybody's involved, So we just haven't 290 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: got it done. And you know, we got four more 291 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: times each other. You know, it's four winds, you know, 292 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: the one at the time. You never you can you 293 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: canly control what you can control, and you know, collectively 294 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: we haven't got it done. Have you ever felt like 295 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: you did yesterday in the football field after the Raiders 296 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: complete a past to Henry Ruggs in the final seconds 297 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: and they take away your first victory of the season. 298 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: Have you ever felt like that coming off the field 299 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: before because you were actually on the field for that 300 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: play and you were very near Derek carry yourself, but 301 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: just the feeling of Laye and everything on the field 302 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: and everything that you guys have put out there together 303 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: and hung together, and then it wasn't a beat. Yeah, 304 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: I mean it was frustrating, um. And I know a 305 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: lot of people questioned, like that last play and what 306 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: we was going on and stuff like that. For me 307 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: when I was out there, I actually was out there 308 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: and I thought about checking UM to something and at 309 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: the time, I was like, you know what, let's try 310 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: to get there. You know, I was close to get 311 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: in the sack. I was supposed to getting them, but 312 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: he stepped up and threw it up. And you know, 313 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: most of us would would would say we should have 314 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: been something in a different call. But I don't question 315 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: our I don't question decision decision on the left play, 316 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: he wanted to get after them and that's what we 317 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: tried to do. When they end up, um, they end 318 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: up throwing it, throwing it up or a touchdown, you 319 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: know emotionally though, Now, well, can you just kind of 320 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: take use what that's like when the offense comes back 321 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: from a deficit, put you guys on top, and then 322 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: you think you have it in the bag, and then 323 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: on what was essentially the last play that the errors 324 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: sucked out from the team. It sucks man because um, 325 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: I know, I know how hard like we've been waiting 326 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: for our offense to to do the things that they've 327 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: been doing recently. Man putting these points that moving the ball, 328 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: and those young guys that came in and was running 329 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: the ball so well yesterday, and the receivers, you know, 330 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: receivers type like collectively, you know, everybody put working and 331 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: and and you know, in my heart, you know what 332 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying, We're supposed to win that game. There's no 333 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: question that we come up that field would have winning. 334 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: And you know, it's frustrating because we all know that 335 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: it should have went another way. So it's just like 336 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: it makes it hard for me to continue to like 337 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: going there and tell guys, you know, keep working hard, 338 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: keep doing this. But at the end of the day, 339 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: my mindset is, you gotta have you gotta have goals. Man, 340 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: whatever your goal is, whatever your wire is, you just 341 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: keep coming you keep getting better, keep working on your game, 342 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: keep getting better each week, and you know it's gonna 343 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: work out for you. You know what I'm saying, You can't. 344 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: You can only control what you can can control. Freak 345 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: stuff from Neville Hewitt as advertised, and this wouldn't be 346 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: a podcast if we didn't have Bart Scott on for 347 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: our Victor Knox Swiss Army Knife player the game segment, 348 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: and we'll hear from him in a minute. But Jet Seahawks, 349 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: when you look at it on paper, Seahawks very daunting 350 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 1: offense and the Jets secondaries had his struggles the past 351 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: few weeks. Last week it was Darren Waller, the week 352 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: before that, or a couple of weeks before that, it 353 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: was Keenan Allen Jacobe Meyers had a good game against 354 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: the Jets defense. Now they're gonna go up against DK Metcalf, 355 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: Tyler Lockin, and of course someone that is on the 356 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: Seahawks defense that Sam Donald will be seeing a lot 357 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: of is someone that he saw a lot of in 358 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: practice the previous couple of years of Jamal Adams. Yeah, 359 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: when I think about Jet Seahawks, these teams are gonna 360 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 1: be tied for a couple of seasons. The Seahawks make 361 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: that trade before training camp because they're gone for it. 362 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: They have one of the league's marquee players at the 363 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: quarterback position in Russell Wilson. You just talked about his 364 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: weapons on the defensive side of the ball, to hand 365 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: to get better. And Adams is one of the most 366 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: unique defenders in the NFL because you can make an 367 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: argument that he's a position us polaria. Yeah, he's listed 368 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: as a safety, but a lot of times he is 369 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: a linebacker and then they'll move him in the slot 370 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: and he's such an effective blitzer. Didn't work out here 371 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 1: for Adams and the New York Jets that trade Joe Douglas, 372 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: doll think about the return as we look ahead to 373 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: January and beyond, especially with that draft. The Jets have 374 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: two first round picks now in and their first pick 375 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: their pick in one. It's gonna be very early. We'll 376 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: have to see where the Seahawks finish up. But we 377 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: think about the draft capital that Joe Douglas has now 378 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: to address a lot of the needs of the Jets 379 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: have moving forward, the financial flexibility that he has heading 380 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: into the off season, holl of an opportunity to build 381 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: this team. Whereas Jamal Adams out there in the West Coast, 382 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: He's definitely gonna be playing for ring this year. It's 383 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to see where the Seahawks team does 384 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,479 Speaker 1: finish up in the NFC. Ethan when you look at 385 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: the NFC. Where do you think Seattle fits among those 386 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: top teams like the Saints in Green Bay and the 387 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: list goes on. Well, I think we've talked about this before. 388 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: I think if you have Russell Wilson, you have a shot. 389 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: And the Seahawks are coming off a tough loss to 390 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: the Giants in Seattle, and like, if you had asked 391 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: me who if if I felt that Giants had a 392 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: chance in that game, truthfully, I probably would have said no. 393 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 1: Backup quarterback and Colt McCoy, first year head coach, first 394 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: year defensive coordinator going out to Seattle to take on 395 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: the Russell Wilson led Seahawks. I mean, I didn't really 396 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: give the Giants a shot, And that's that's my bat 397 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: because they clearly proved me wrong, and I think no doubt. 398 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: To answer your question, where do I think they rank? Well, 399 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: it's a funny because right now they're the wild card 400 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: holder because the Rams have the tiebreaker right now over 401 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: the Seahawks because the Rams beat the Seahawks earlier this season. 402 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: But I think come Week seventeen, I'm pretty sure the 403 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: Seahawks have one of the easiest remaining schedules in the 404 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 1: NFL record wise, but that doesn't mean that they're gimme games, 405 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: to say the least. And I think that they're definitely 406 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: I'm putting them right up there with the Saints. And 407 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: who's the other team? You said, I said, green Baby, 408 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: this one under the radar? How good a season? A 409 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: rot said, Yeah, I think they're right up there. I mean, 410 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: I think they can compete with anybody. And I really 411 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: think that Carlos Dunlap changed the landscape of that defensive front. Well, 412 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: I mean, are you you agree with me or you 413 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: think that they're missing a couple of pieces on that defense. 414 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: It's an interesting team to read. Like we talked about 415 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: it early in the season, I would have thought, you know, 416 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: you would say Seattle might be the team in the NFC, 417 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: but they had so many holes defensively. Adams was planged 418 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: up this year, so, uh, that trade for Carlos dun 419 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: lay up. You're right, he's made a difference up front. 420 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 1: They do have a former undrafted free agent who made 421 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: his fame early on in his career with the Jets, 422 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 1: Damn Snax Harrison. He's playing in the middle right now. 423 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: The defense has played better offensively. You're right against the Giants. 424 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: What you've seen from them of late is they haven't 425 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: been protecting Russell Wilson. He the sack numbers have been 426 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: up there. And when I look at the Jets matchup 427 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: with the Seahawks, Seahawks are gonna have a difficult time 428 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: running the football against the Jets, because everybody does. The 429 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: Raiders were unable to get the run game going. It's 430 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: going to be can the Jets have any answers in 431 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: the air against those weapons that you talked about. I 432 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: think they'll get to the quarterback at a number of times. 433 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: You really like what you're seeing out of Quinn and 434 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: Williams in the middle of that defense. He's gonna press 435 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: that pocket and they won't get some sacks this week. 436 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: And I also think they'll contain the run. It's what 437 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: are they gonna do with the new defensive signal caller? 438 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: How are they going to change some things up to 439 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: help the those guys in the secondary. It's gonna be 440 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: fascinating to see what happens with the Jets, particularly defensively. 441 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: Because of what you just said and because what we 442 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: started the show. In terms of news, Greg Williams no 443 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: longer calling plays for the Jets defense, So we don't 444 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: know what to expect from the Jets defense moving forward. 445 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: And with that being said, we've talked a lot about 446 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 1: the Seahawks weapons and their players on the defensive side 447 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 1: of the ball. One player we have not mentioned as 448 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner. But let's hear from Bart Scott for our 449 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,479 Speaker 1: Victor Knox Swiss Army Knife Player of the Game segment 450 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: to see who he has his eyes on. Okay, Bart, 451 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: before we get into our matchups to watch, I'm just 452 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: curious your perspective. I think you could shed some light 453 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: on what it's like inside the locker room when you 454 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: have a shake up at the defensive coordinator spot and 455 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: someone knew calling plays. What's that? What's this week gonna 456 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: be like for the Jets defense? I was gonna be 457 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: about getting comfortable with each other and understanding of the 458 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 1: philosophy and understanding how to defensive coordinator sees certain situations. 459 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: So you can have a level of anticipation, but what 460 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: the call is going to be called in certain situations 461 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: where the short yards go. Gotta have a two minute 462 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: situations because sometimes you may may I have a communication 463 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: and usually you know what he's gonna call allows you 464 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: to maybe be able to problem solve some of those 465 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: things before they occur, understanding what he believes in what 466 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: he wants to call in certain situations. Matt Backer, we 467 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: had Neville hewittt on before you came on for your 468 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: weekly spot here in the Official Jets Podcast. What have 469 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: you thought about the play of Neville and his development 470 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,719 Speaker 1: over the course of the time that he's been here 471 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: with the New York Jets and now Harvey Longy starting 472 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: alongside him, and those guys both play with their hair 473 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: on fire, NonStop motors have brought a great physicality to 474 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: the game. I just wanted to ask you about their development. Well, 475 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: I think last year Neville really uh turned the corner 476 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: in the second half of the season. When he first 477 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: got out there, I thought he struggled a little bit, 478 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: but he started to figure out, you know, the defense 479 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: where he can take opportunities. And now I think now 480 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: he has confidence and he's sure of it so and 481 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: he lays with a sense of a swagger where before 482 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: he was playing a little hesitant and maybe a step slow. 483 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: When you think about long be he's going to have 484 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: an opportunity to play as well, and he's playing with 485 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: his hair on fire. But the issue is when c J. 486 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: Mosley comes back, you know they're going to be fighting 487 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: essentially with each other, because I don't see c J 488 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: going back and maybe being like that Darren Lee that 489 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: you know, Da Mario Davis um playing space, leave the 490 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: box type of linebacker, you know, So they're gonna be 491 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: fighting it out. So they're gonna have to kind of 492 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: continue to sharpen their skills so that they can um. 493 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: And you think, you know Blake Cashman, you know, he's 494 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: the guy sensitive you would think would be the other 495 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: kind of covered linebacker that leaves the box, but he 496 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: just can't stay healthy. So I think it's gonna be 497 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: a environment of competition, especially if next year you have 498 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: c J. Mosley back and you're gonna have three guys 499 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: fighting for one position. That gives you tremendous depth, and 500 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: it gives you the confidence that you've seen them play 501 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: on both sides and both positions. If something somebody goes down, 502 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: All right, well let's look ahead to Jet Seahawks Part. 503 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: What is your player or your matchup to watch? I mean, 504 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: I want to see Ty Johnson, right because we just 505 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: saw Wayne Goldman go off against the Sea How Seahawks. 506 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: You know you talk about you know his day and 507 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 1: what he had, you know, averaging was nine yards and 508 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: carry or you know it was something ridiculous. I think 509 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: maybe no, maybe he average like six point seven in 510 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: the You know, you think about getting down here, you 511 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: talk about going behind, you know, going a route of 512 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: seventy seven and that being a path to success. Imagine 513 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 1: being able to do that against you know, the Sea 514 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 1: How of Seahawks. If you don't have success, is about 515 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 1: keeping Russell Wilson on the bench. We saw the Giants 516 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 1: prove that keep them on, keep him on the bench 517 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: and make him force him to have to be great. 518 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: You know, the few possession that you get, take the 519 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: out of the ball and hope that you can capitalize 520 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 1: and get seven instead of three. Yeah, what is the 521 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: Jets secondary going to do against t K Metcalf, Tyler 522 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: Lockett and the company? That, to me is the key question. 523 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: We know they're playing with a lot of young players 524 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: right now. You're living with the ups and downs. Darren Waller, 525 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: who we mentioned last week in this spot, that was 526 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: a key matchup. He had two hundred yards receiving against 527 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: the New York Jets, Metcalf obviously big guy, not a 528 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,239 Speaker 1: tight end, but a monstrous player who can get down 529 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: the field in a hurry. And Russell Wilson is one 530 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: of the top vertical throwers in the entire National Football League. 531 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: The Seahawks have had trouble protecting him up front, and 532 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: also the Jets have been very good against the run. 533 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: So how is this secondary with so many moving pieces, 534 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: so many young guys going to hold up when that 535 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: front doesn't get to Wilson. Well, you gotta think Carson 536 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: didn't get the opportunity to get going. Um, they really 537 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: abandoned it because you talked about, you know, having a 538 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: former giant there Will or he was getting you know, 539 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: steam roll and so you can run the ball that direction, 540 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: you couldn't hold up in pass protecting. So I think 541 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: that's the recipe for success. We actually want to make 542 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: sure that if you're gonna you know, lose, you know 543 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: of Seattle is gonna because they run the ball for 544 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: three hundred yards now because they get these easy scores 545 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: and these big explosive plays. So you want to play 546 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: with you know, two safeties over the top. You want 547 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:14,719 Speaker 1: to have your your your cornerbacks. Um challenge metcalf at 548 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: the at the line of scrimmage and understand, just stay 549 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: in front of him and don't let him get started, 550 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: and then if he does, you still have an opportunity 551 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: to have the safeties over the top. So you're making 552 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: a tough physical day for him. You don't give him 553 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: a playoff, and you challenge your corners to challenge him 554 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: at a lot of scrimmage, no billing, no playing five 555 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: ten yards off. We're gonna get in this chest and 556 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna stay there the entire day. Understanding that it's 557 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: not just his ability to catch the ball, is also 558 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: his ability to try and set the edge, you know 559 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: in the running game. So you're gonna have to compete 560 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: in scrap there and just just fighting. That's what you 561 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: want to see. I think there's been a tremendous test 562 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: for for Bryce hall Um. If blessed On his back 563 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: from the neck injury. You think about the side speed. 564 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: Blessed On is a you know, a specimen as well. 565 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: You know he's a smaller, thinner guy, but he's wiry, 566 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 1: he's cut up. He has he has to strength to 567 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: be able to maybe get it in somebody's face. But 568 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: you still as the defense radius, so it would be 569 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: a great matchup. But I think by no means that 570 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: you go man to man. If you do, it's going 571 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: to be very limited. So Ethan Parts saying a lot 572 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: of cover two looks, but that doesn't mean don't get 573 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: after those receivers. He wants the Jets to get physical 574 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. I like it. I like it too, 575 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: and I feel like I know Bart's matchup to watch 576 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: is Ty Johnson, and rightfully so, but I do think 577 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: that the Seahawks do have holes in their secondary, and 578 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: when you look at their passing numbers and the amount 579 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: of points they allowed per game, they're gonna be opportunities 580 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: for Sam Donald in this receiving corps that was somewhat 581 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: limited against the Las Vegas Raiders because of the jobs 582 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: that Thy Johnson and Josh Adams did on the ground. 583 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: I feel like the Jets offense need to is going 584 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: to need to be efficient when counted on, especially on 585 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: third down when you need to move the chain. So, Bart, 586 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: before we let you go here, what is your take 587 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: on this Jets receiving corps against the Seahawks secondary that 588 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: has some holes in it, But you have to understand 589 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: they're gonna try and do the Seahawks are gonna trying 590 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: to heat the Jets up. I don't think they're trying 591 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: to heat him up by going them back inside. They're 592 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: gonna go where you know the Jets of struggling. That's 593 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: up the eight gap. Once again every week we come here. 594 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: We're talking about a glab blitz. When the guy sent 595 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: in the text message of the linebackers standing two yards 596 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: off the ball in the spread of stands, not even 597 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: in appair and not even in the balance stands, he's 598 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: showing you that he's coming. And yet the Jets didn't 599 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: make the necessary adjustments pre snap post snap. You know 600 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: Johnson didn't get in front to make the block, but 601 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: you might want to move him over. Understand that's where 602 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: it's coming. To slide the protection, changing the protection and 603 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: understand that the best. When you know you're geting air 604 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,719 Speaker 1: gap coverage, you know you don't want to let him 605 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: go to the running back. Just slide the protection, put 606 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: the running back on the edge. Why they don't do that, 607 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: I have no idea, but it continues to haunt them. 608 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: So imagine Jamal not coming off the edge if he 609 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: is he's coming off your right edge, his left, or 610 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: he's coming up the middle, because that's where you guys 611 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,959 Speaker 1: are serving up free set, free sides. All right. Well, 612 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: that's how we wrap up this edition of the Victorinox, 613 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: Swiss Army Night Playing the Game segment, and another edition 614 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: of the Official Jets Podcast as powered by awspart appreciate 615 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: the time as always, Thank you, Buddy M.