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Speaker 3: What a wonderful Monday morning here at Cowboys training camp
Speaker 3: in Oxnard, California.
Speaker 4: Sixty three degrees.
Speaker 3: The sun is shining, and just like death and Taxes,
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Speaker 3: Nate Newton's, Savannah Humoler, Mickey Spagnola with you as always
Speaker 3: at eight am here in the Pacific Coast.
Speaker 4: I'm and I was.
Speaker 3: We got a lot to talk about after that first
Speaker 3: preseason game yesterday afternoon with the Rams in La and
Speaker 3: hopefully everybody survived the weekend.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm man, that's Rocket Roll baby.
Speaker 4: There's much to discuss today.
Speaker 5: Yes, survive the weekend?
Speaker 3: Much to discuss, Yes, absolutely, so we're gonna get right
Speaker 3: at it. Cowboys lose their first preseason game thirteen to twelve,
Speaker 3: the Rams scoring the only touchdown of the game with
Speaker 3: four seconds to go, as the Cowboys had been leading
Speaker 3: twelve to six and it looked like they had it
Speaker 3: wrapped up, and then they gave up a seventy yard
Speaker 3: drive for a touchdown after only after having held the
Speaker 3: Rams to just like two hundred and thirty six yards
Speaker 3: and then gave up seventy. So we're gonna get impressions
Speaker 3: here of what everybody thought of the game. And again
Speaker 3: I'm gonna start off with saying the way Mike McCarthy
Speaker 3: coached the game, his priority was to get as many
Speaker 3: snaps as he could for his young team.
Speaker 4: If he was.
Speaker 3: Trying to win the game, he probably wouldn't have gone
Speaker 3: for five fourth downs. They only made two of them,
Speaker 3: and a couple times, well three times, he could have
Speaker 3: kicked a field goal if he wanted to. I don't
Speaker 3: think he thought that was important. The Cowboys sat twenty
Speaker 3: five veteran mostly starters. They didn't play the Rams didn't
Speaker 3: play their first line guys either, But he got a
Speaker 3: heck of a lot of snaps for his young team,
Speaker 3: seventy by the way, and I think that was And
Speaker 3: if you noticed how he was calling plays on offense,
Speaker 3: they were almost felt like they were in a hurry
Speaker 3: up offense because they were getting in and out of
Speaker 3: the huddle really fast. So they could run a bunch
Speaker 3: of plays. So you know, my impression was defense did
Speaker 3: a nice job until the last drive. Offense moved the ball,
Speaker 3: they just didn't score touchdowns. And Brandon Aubrey was good
Speaker 3: as always. Shame on him for missing from sixty five yards,
Speaker 3: but hit four other field goals. And we'll discuss Trey
Speaker 3: Lance here at length.
Speaker 4: So Nate, what were your thoughts.
Speaker 2: I just like what the guys did.
Speaker 6: They did a lot of good things individually, you know,
Speaker 6: offense line, you know, they got to work on the games.
Speaker 2: That's natural this early in the preseason.
Speaker 6: Guys was doing some good things technique. We saw a
Speaker 6: series He's of guiding and which was pretty good.
Speaker 2: Once again, got to work on technique. I like what
Speaker 2: the defense did.
Speaker 6: I looked at you know, I had certain guys that
Speaker 6: I was looking to grade heavily because these are core
Speaker 6: guys I think will beat future core guys. I like
Speaker 6: how Mazy started the game, hands popping, doing what he
Speaker 6: had to do. I like how Marshawn Neveland did what
Speaker 6: he had to do. So just guys that I felt
Speaker 6: like had to start the game strong. My man, oh
Speaker 6: seventy six, I can't think of his name. Richards, two
Speaker 6: different centers, three different guards.
Speaker 2: I think he played well.
Speaker 6: I mean, now, the games were a little bit funky
Speaker 6: there every now and then, but I think just as
Speaker 6: a whole, he played pretty well. He was pretty consistent
Speaker 6: what he was doing. Number ninety showed up late, but
Speaker 6: he showed up late. About ninety four of the rams
Speaker 6: he showed up during the game. But that was called
Speaker 6: all because of games being on different levels. And when
Speaker 6: you got two different guard, i mean, two different centers,
Speaker 6: three different tackles, you're gonna have mix up. So that
Speaker 6: didn't shake me at all either in the last drive
Speaker 6: of the game. Don't matter to me. I'm just a
Speaker 6: going I am looking at individual players. I learned a
Speaker 6: valuable lesson. Coach Johnson came in and I think we
Speaker 6: went three and one in the preseason then, and we
Speaker 6: thought we were hot. Oh we thought we feed the
Speaker 6: light of the league. The first game we almost we
Speaker 6: got beat so bad too. It took us like eight
Speaker 6: games to recover because that was what one in seven.
Speaker 6: So that'll let you know if you worried about a
Speaker 6: preseason game, get a life, Savannah.
Speaker 5: You know, my eyes were on the defense a lot
Speaker 5: of the time, and I think that goes to show.
Speaker 5: I mean, four interceptions yesterday was a really big day
Speaker 5: for the defense, but that was the first day that
Speaker 5: we're seeing the implementation of Mike Zimmer's scheme. And I
Speaker 5: also read earlier today that he wasn't even necessarily using
Speaker 5: his call sheet that much, like he was call and
Speaker 5: plays based off of the live action, and that's just
Speaker 5: how you know, like you know, twenty years he comes
Speaker 5: back to the Cowboys and he just has that old
Speaker 5: school mentality on defense. But I liked seeing some of
Speaker 5: these younger guys on defense. Marquise Bell, he had so
Speaker 5: much more ability to have free play and that moved
Speaker 5: He's in the position he's supposed to be playing in,
Speaker 5: So that's that's a benefit for us there. Demarbian Overshown,
Speaker 5: Are you kidding me? He came out right out of
Speaker 5: the gate, just ready to go, and you could see,
Speaker 5: even since we didn't have him last season, just how
Speaker 5: excited he was to be out there.
Speaker 7: He got his nerves out.
Speaker 5: But he came in hot. I love seeing that. And
Speaker 5: then Julius Wood he had an interception. I saw him
Speaker 5: do it two days ago in practice, and just I
Speaker 5: like seeing that consistency. As far as he's doing it
Speaker 5: out here, he's doing it live in the game. So
Speaker 5: those younger guys stepping up on defense, I really love
Speaker 5: seeing that.
Speaker 3: You know, speaking of Wood, the safeties are really they've
Speaker 3: got pretty much depth at safety if you think about
Speaker 3: behind the starters of Donovan Wilson and Malie Cooker Bell
Speaker 3: and Janie Thomas, good players, and then some of these
Speaker 3: young guys are stepping up. So you know, they all
Speaker 3: can't make the team, but it might be a pretty
Speaker 3: talented practice squad. Having said that, so let's get right
Speaker 3: to Trey Lance. I want to give you let you
Speaker 3: guys give your impressions on it. I was at the game.
Speaker 3: I saw a lot, but I just wanted to see
Speaker 3: what you guys thought. And I know you had to
Speaker 3: watch it on television. So Nate, I'll let you start first, right,
Speaker 3: I will.
Speaker 6: Pass it with will of fortune. Missivanna, you go first.
Speaker 6: They want to throw it on me and press it on,
Speaker 6: I'll go first.
Speaker 5: I'm going to tag team. What you said the other
Speaker 5: day on the show about Trey Lance. You said just
Speaker 5: a couple of days ago that you think that he
Speaker 5: needs another year development time, And I'm kind of behind
Speaker 5: you with this and with Trey Lance yesterday. I think
Speaker 5: he did a decent job, but I think that was
Speaker 5: his first game where we're really getting to see maybe
Speaker 5: what he can do. He didn't look too comfortable. If
Speaker 5: you ask me, I do like his ability to scramble.
Speaker 5: He led yesterday in rushing yards forty four yards on
Speaker 5: six carries. I like him scrambling. He was good in
Speaker 5: that area. But I think when it comes to completing
Speaker 5: some of those passes and gaining that confidence, that's something
Speaker 5: he's going to have to work on. I also think
Speaker 5: he needs to probably tune out the noise going into
Speaker 5: this game on Saturday. Don't worry about what everyone else
Speaker 5: is saying right now, focus on the game, Focus with coach,
Speaker 5: get with Dak, really know what you're going into. I
Speaker 5: think that's what his focus needs to be for some
Speaker 5: cause he has a lot to showcase.
Speaker 6: If you ask me, you know, I just believe this
Speaker 6: right here. I think what you saw this game, you'll see.
Speaker 2: A better better next game because the coach, you understand
Speaker 2: what he needs to do, and he will understand a
Speaker 2: little bit better what he needs to do.
Speaker 6: He should get out early, doing before practice and maybe
Speaker 6: out of practice and throw a few balls. Just go
Speaker 6: out and believe it or not. Get the receivers, and
Speaker 6: don't try to think about it. Just throw the ball.
Speaker 6: Just throw the ball. You got natural talent, you know,
Speaker 6: but he spends a lot of time thinking, you know,
Speaker 6: trying to make it perfect.
Speaker 2: Don't worry about it, man, Just get out here with
Speaker 2: these guys. Just throw the ball.
Speaker 6: Just like when you was a little kid, you got
Speaker 6: out in the street and just throw the ball. Get
Speaker 6: out there and just throw the ball. I'm not gonna
Speaker 6: judge this kid about this game or maybe even the
Speaker 6: next game, because I truly believe.
Speaker 2: In my heart that if given the time, given the
Speaker 2: right and proper instructions of what we do within this offense,
Speaker 2: he'll be all right.
Speaker 6: Will he be ready to take Cooper's job? Not right now,
Speaker 6: But let's see about the third game. Do we have
Speaker 6: the same feelings for this kid that you may have
Speaker 6: had gonna coming into this game and may have had
Speaker 6: leaving out his game.
Speaker 2: I'm just.
Speaker 6: I've never been in his shoes, and I wouldn't want
Speaker 6: to be in his shoes.
Speaker 2: Not to be a first round pick, third player pick.
Speaker 6: He gave up eight hundred draft picks for this kid,
Speaker 6: and to throw them away within two years, that's a blow.
Speaker 6: And I'm not gonna keep riding on that. That's just
Speaker 6: how I feel, and that's the way it.
Speaker 4: Is for me, So let's point this out.
Speaker 3: He ended up completing twenty five or forty one passes
Speaker 3: for one hundred and eighty eight yards. He had six
Speaker 3: runs for forty four yards. I thought what we saw
Speaker 3: in the game was what we saw out here in practice.
Speaker 4: Yes, he would do a few.
Speaker 3: Things and you're going huh, And then he'd do a
Speaker 3: few things and you're going, Okay, there's something there. And
Speaker 3: that's kind of what the game was like. He had
Speaker 3: four drives of at least ten plays, so they were
Speaker 3: moving the ball. They just didn't score touchdowns when he missed.
Speaker 3: And this is what we saw out here. His passes
Speaker 3: were high. There was a couple of completions that were
Speaker 3: high that some of the young receivers made nice catches.
Speaker 3: But let's remember who he was playing with. Also, as
Speaker 3: Nate pointed out about the offensive line, they were mixing
Speaker 3: and matching. They had to play Geiton. Now, he only
Speaker 3: played a couple series. He was on a pitch count.
Speaker 3: Tuma Dogas suffers a big toe injury. He's walking around
Speaker 3: with a boot.
Speaker 4: Afterwards.
Speaker 3: We'll see what the MRI does with him. He was
Speaker 3: one of the few veteran guys that actually played in
Speaker 3: the game.
Speaker 4: And then it was a mixture.
Speaker 3: Of awesome Richard Earl Bostik. They changed the center, they
Speaker 3: changed they started TJ Bass at right guard. Uh So
Speaker 3: it was a mixed match in there. And he was
Speaker 3: playing with all the young receivers. He did not play
Speaker 3: with Jayalen Tobert, he did not play with Brandon Cooks,
Speaker 3: so that factors in. But again, there was some good
Speaker 3: things and then there's things that.
Speaker 4: They needed to be able to work on.
Speaker 3: As Mike McCarthy said, he's making good progress. They're definitely
Speaker 3: wired the right way. He's a great athlete. We just
Speaker 3: have a lot of work to do.
Speaker 2: This is the bottom line. Everybody has a miss mi Mitch,
Speaker 2: what's the word. I'm gonna a mixture.
Speaker 6: Of players right in the preseason, Trey Lance would be
Speaker 6: all right, well, you know, we don't have to make
Speaker 6: not one excuse. This kid will either come up, come
Speaker 6: up out of this spanning like Roses, or he'll be
Speaker 6: buried six feet under I'm betting on the kid. If
Speaker 6: we could just not have any pressure for him this year,
Speaker 6: let him get into next year.
Speaker 2: We don't have to make no excuses, and if next
Speaker 2: year don't bring what we need, then you don't have
Speaker 2: to keep him. That's just the bottom line. Trey Lance
Speaker 2: is going through what every quarterback is going through. That' say, backup,
Speaker 2: you're gonna have eighteen different players, eighteen different wie receive
Speaker 2: was seventeen different offensive linemen. That's the nature of the beast.
Speaker 6: But somehow, some way, we just gotta find a way
Speaker 6: to get him comfortable to see if he can really play.
Speaker 2: That's the bottom line.
Speaker 3: And the game's gotta slow down for him. If you remember,
Speaker 3: this is his first game of anything that he played
Speaker 3: in since August nineteenth of twenty twenty three, so from
Speaker 3: the time he got with the Cowboys didn't play in
Speaker 3: any games. He hasn't played in a real game, meaning
Speaker 3: a regular season game, since September eighteenth of twenty twenty two. So,
Speaker 3: as Nate knows, and I'm sure Savannah realizes it, it
Speaker 3: takes time when you haven't been in the pocket to
Speaker 3: slow the game down. It's like, you know, Manhattan cong traffic,
Speaker 3: congesting when you're trying to decipher what's going on in
Speaker 3: a couple seconds. So I thought a few times he
Speaker 3: didn't pull the trigger quick enough. A few times he
Speaker 3: stared down his receivers. But other than that, if you
Speaker 3: look at some of the drives, that his final drive,
Speaker 3: when they drove down field, he was hitting his back
Speaker 3: foot and the ball was coming out. He had four
Speaker 3: consecutive completions during that drive, and I thought he did
Speaker 3: a really good job. And it was like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 3: seeing it. I'm seeing it, and it takes time. He
Speaker 3: didn't play but seventeen games in college.
Speaker 2: You know it's okay. I was.
Speaker 3: If I was his guy, I would have said, you
Speaker 3: need another year in college. He didn't play that much
Speaker 3: in high school. And afterwards when I asked him, he
Speaker 3: was walking off and I said, when's the last time
Speaker 3: you threw forty one passes in a game? And he goes, oh,
Speaker 3: that's gotta been a while. Well, I went back and
Speaker 3: looked it up. He didn't do it with San Francisco
Speaker 3: regular season, preseason, and he didn't do it in college
Speaker 3: that I checked out all the games he played, so
Speaker 3: forty one passes that was a new thing for him.
Speaker 5: So also, I mean first half he was eight for
Speaker 5: seventeen on completions. He came back better in the second half.
Speaker 5: He was seventeen for twenty four, right, And so you
Speaker 5: definitely you see that he progressed a little bit towards
Speaker 5: the second half. But like I said, he needs to
Speaker 5: tune out the noise. We still have a game on Saturday.
Speaker 5: He needs to show up for that, and I think
Speaker 5: when he gets a little bit more comfortable, we're gonna
Speaker 5: see some more progression from it.
Speaker 3: And I think there's other things they can do with them, Nate,
Speaker 3: but Mike wanted to and Jerry Jones said it in
Speaker 3: the pregame show. They wanted to see him in the pocket,
Speaker 3: and so that was kind of the plays they called.
Speaker 3: McCarthy wanted the fourth and one at the three that
Speaker 3: call back. He didn't like his call on that. That
Speaker 3: one of the fourth downs that they didn't pick up.
Speaker 3: They could have kicked a field goal, right, But it
Speaker 3: wasn't about kicking field goals. Brandon Aarbury did a nice
Speaker 3: job with four of them missed from sixty five, which
Speaker 3: is another indication that he wasn't playing the game to win.
Speaker 3: He was playing the game to give guys opportunities to make.
Speaker 4: Plays, and so I haven't even looked. I'm sure people.
Speaker 3: Were hard on Trey Lance, but I thought he handled
Speaker 3: himself well, got in and out of the huddle well,
Speaker 3: and seemed like he was somewhat under control. Let's see
Speaker 3: the next game after being able to play the number
Speaker 3: of snaps he did, because they had seventy offensive snaps
Speaker 3: and Cooper Rush only played six of them.
Speaker 4: So he got a lot.
Speaker 3: The objective, the priority in this game was to give
Speaker 3: him work, and he got work.
Speaker 5: Can we, real quick just give some credit to Cooper
Speaker 5: Rush on that incredible pass to Jalen Brooks yesterday. He
Speaker 5: I mean he came out, you know that first drive
Speaker 5: and Cooper Rush. It was like we've seen Cooper Rush
Speaker 5: do this time and time again. Love seeing him do that.
Speaker 5: And then that was a great catch by Jalen Brooks
Speaker 5: as well.
Speaker 2: Okay, he liked it, right. I love preseason for what
Speaker 2: it's worth and what it's supposed to be. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: I tail fans all the time. When you listening to
Speaker 2: I wish you wouldn't even gave the score.
Speaker 6: I just wish you would have went right into the
Speaker 6: show talking about these kids because it don't matter to me.
Speaker 6: And another thing really don't matter to me is about
Speaker 6: Trey Lance.
Speaker 2: That's when you set me. I'm gonna say what I
Speaker 2: say and then I'm done with it.
Speaker 6: Give this kid a true opportunity before we judge him.
Speaker 6: When you listen to these bobbling heads everybody over here
Speaker 6: with their big time opinion, and.
Speaker 2: I don't use this a lot.
Speaker 6: They don't know how to gather information, and half of
Speaker 6: them don't know what they're looking at. So when you
Speaker 6: hear from these people that want to give you all
Speaker 6: these opinions, you know, so you can go out on
Speaker 6: your broke down podcast to give your opinion, you don't
Speaker 6: know what you're looking at. Give this kid opportunity. And
Speaker 6: once once we get through this year, if he makes
Speaker 6: the team again, which he should, then next year you'll.
Speaker 2: That's when that's when you can be critical. Right now,
Speaker 2: just straight and play.
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Speaker 3: And I think we were reminded before the game started
Speaker 3: why you should watch Countdown to Kickoff because Jerry Jones
Speaker 3: was our guest and he sort of explained himself a
Speaker 3: little bit about last week's what he said about it's
Speaker 3: not urgent that they get CD Lambs signed before the
Speaker 3: first preseason game when he was asked that question, and
Speaker 3: he gave it a really, I thought good answer. First
Speaker 3: of all, as he pointed out, CD wouldn't have played
Speaker 3: in the preseason game, so that didn't put any pressure
Speaker 3: on him to get him signed immediately. He pointed out that,
Speaker 3: and he looked in the camera and said, CD, You're missed.
Speaker 3: So it's not like they were dissing him when he
Speaker 3: said it wasn't urgent that they get him signed. But
Speaker 3: I think the point he wanted to make I've been
Speaker 3: saying it. I don't think anybody listens. He's under contract.
Speaker 3: He has signed. He has a one year, seventeen point
Speaker 3: ninety nine million dollar guaranteed contract for this season. So
Speaker 3: the Cowboys know that that's sort of their little negotiating nut,
Speaker 3: right because I don't know about you, Nate, but there's
Speaker 3: not many players out there that'll give up one million
Speaker 3: dollars a week to hold out during the regular season.
Speaker 3: So Jerry just was trying to clarify that on the
Speaker 3: on Our Countdown to Kickoff pregame show, on the fact
Speaker 3: that he is under contract. So it's not like they're
Speaker 3: trying to you know, they're trying to negotiate an extension,
Speaker 3: but he is under contract. So that's why he mentioned
Speaker 3: the urgency thing. I don't know what you guys thought
Speaker 3: of that when he said it, but it's sure created
Speaker 3: a stir.
Speaker 6: In this world of let me break down the next
Speaker 6: man or the next girl.
Speaker 2: That's what that was expected. Missus Jones a mastermind.
Speaker 6: He knew when he said it it will bring on
Speaker 6: a firestorm.
Speaker 2: And uh, Emmitt, remember Emmitt Smith. Yes, you know it
Speaker 2: took Charles Haley.
Speaker 6: Throwing a helmet through the wall, and I mean it
Speaker 6: is it has always he's been at last minute.
Speaker 2: How can I be the You know Missus Jones to
Speaker 2: do it when he's ready. Him and CD and his
Speaker 2: people will come together and they'll get it done when
Speaker 2: they're ready.
Speaker 6: If our fans by now haven't learned that, if Missus
Speaker 6: Jones won't a player, he will put him in here.
Speaker 6: If you haven't learned that by now, I mean you're
Speaker 6: not a Dallas Cowboy fan.
Speaker 4: Do you ever have any teammates holding out?
Speaker 2: It is so funny.
Speaker 6: I mean, when him and coach McCarthy and his son
Speaker 6: Stephen was up on opening camp, he told, I've done
Speaker 6: this before, I've been here, and for us to continue
Speaker 6: to beat that horse and the beat, I mean.
Speaker 2: Come on, man.
Speaker 4: EMMITTT.
Speaker 3: Smith missed training camp twice as a rookie. He showed
Speaker 3: up the Tuesday before the season started. In ninety three,
Speaker 3: he missed two games holding out for a new contract
Speaker 3: because he wasn't under contract. Michael Irvin one year signed
Speaker 3: his contract the week of the game. He held out
Speaker 3: the entire training camp looking for a new deal.
Speaker 2: They have seen this before. It is amazing to me.
Speaker 6: And like I said, today's world of let me be first,
Speaker 6: let me throw up a big shadow out out so
Speaker 6: I can get everybody stirred up. Cowboy fans should be like, man,
Speaker 6: I'm going to bed. I'm not even gonna stay up
Speaker 6: late for this.
Speaker 3: You already to give you a good analogy. You remember
Speaker 3: Frank luxA, Yes, work with us at the Dallas Times
Speaker 3: Herald a long time covering the.
Speaker 4: Cowboys since back in the sixties.
Speaker 3: So he saw all the holdouts, right, Randy White was
Speaker 3: out fishing one of the summer, missed almost all of
Speaker 3: training camp, on and on and on.
Speaker 4: So Frank came up with this analogy.
Speaker 3: He goes, you know how you see when somebody's cat
Speaker 3: gets up in a tree and everybody gets all worried.
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, how are we gonna get the cat down.
Speaker 3: We're gonna call the fire department. We got to get
Speaker 3: the cat down. And he said, but do you know what,
Speaker 3: have you ever had to go up in a tree
Speaker 3: and find a dead cat? At some point the cat
Speaker 3: comes down, and it's just like players that they're not
Speaker 3: gonna miss a paycheck.
Speaker 2: It's not a serious paycheck.
Speaker 4: Yeah, did you ever hold out?
Speaker 2: Who me? I never had a serious paycheck? Wait?
Speaker 5: Wait, wait, back to I want to hear the Charles
Speaker 5: Haley throwing his helmet through the wall.
Speaker 6: Okay, it was our second game, second and it was
Speaker 6: a kid we had from Alabama who they were like,
Speaker 6: we'll ride with this kid.
Speaker 2: I can't think of the boy name that was.
Speaker 6: And we came down to the end of the game
Speaker 6: and they tried to get his kid the ball and
Speaker 6: nothing was happening. Charles came in rapped before Missus Jones
Speaker 6: walked through the door. But they help me, just goes
Speaker 6: through this wall bow at Texas Stadium. We need him
Speaker 6: and Smith what oh he was? Oh man, he went
Speaker 6: into a rage and uh but that same week was
Speaker 6: it that same week.
Speaker 2: Or the next week? It was in in.
Speaker 6: Camp and everybody want to say Charles did it, But
Speaker 6: Missus Jones saw if I'm gonna have a winning season
Speaker 6: the way I should, I'm gonna.
Speaker 3: Have to get this kid in here, Derek Derek, and
Speaker 3: he was. He wasn't the fault of losing those No.
Speaker 2: I just what what what makes me laugh is how
Speaker 2: the same thing every year can get out. We would
Speaker 2: have a hold out next year now where it.
Speaker 6: Be the beast of a CD lamb whatever, Yeah, and
Speaker 6: he we'll be sitting here again with a possibly having
Speaker 6: a good show talking about it should be talking about
Speaker 6: the young guys that are trying to make this team,
Speaker 6: and we talking about a guy that not only gonna
Speaker 6: get a forty five percent raise, but he's at home
Speaker 6: luxury laughing.
Speaker 2: And we s end up a wasting this all this
Speaker 2: value of time.
Speaker 5: It's because everyone these days wants some type of instant gratification.
Speaker 4: Yes, but mister.
Speaker 5: Jones is not prepared to have that happen until he's
Speaker 5: ready to get this deal done with CD. They will
Speaker 5: take their time on it. We kind of all expected
Speaker 5: CD not to be here this camp, and like you said,
Speaker 5: it does give these younger guys opportunities.
Speaker 6: And that's what Because you just gave what Cooper a
Speaker 6: big to do about throwing a nice pass to receive.
Speaker 6: That's what we should be seen about. The Trey Lances
Speaker 6: of the world. The guidance of the series that he had.
Speaker 6: He looked pretty good. That's what I want to talk about.
Speaker 6: That's what and that's what this training camp is all about. Actually,
Speaker 6: guy that would blore, he's gonna be consistent, he's gonna
Speaker 6: blow every day that mix.
Speaker 5: On their but it is good Jerry addressed some stuff
Speaker 5: yesterday with you and clarified that.
Speaker 3: So, and here's the thing about Jerry, he doesn't back
Speaker 3: away from discussing those things, right, He's basically, yeah, sure,
Speaker 3: we can talk about that. And he almost relished the
Speaker 3: opportunity because to speak about it.
Speaker 2: He know, he said, Okay, let me go out here.
Speaker 2: How can I put this way?
Speaker 6: The world can focus on me, you know, and focus
Speaker 6: on my cowboys. Okay, I'm not in a hurry. Oh
Speaker 6: that sounds good. I'm gonna throw that out there.
Speaker 3: So, uh, to reiterate what we were talking about some
Speaker 3: of the young players. They need these guys this year.
Speaker 3: That's all this team is gonna get better. They need
Speaker 3: demarve and overshown to one right. Yeah, and and remember
Speaker 3: he's coming back from an ACL so they're bringing these
Speaker 3: guys back slowly. They're still ramping him up. That's the
Speaker 3: first game he's played in since he was at Texas.
Speaker 3: If you think about it, he got hurt early in
Speaker 3: training camp, never played in a preseason game, so they're
Speaker 3: trying to ramp him up. The same thing with Tyler Geiton.
Speaker 3: He missed three practices last week with a chess cold
Speaker 3: and and I would. I wasn't even sure if he
Speaker 3: was going to play, But on their walk through practice
Speaker 3: on Friday, I saw him kind of working with the
Speaker 3: first team, so they it was an easy workout.
Speaker 4: They were trying to ramp him.
Speaker 3: Up to get ready to play if, if indeed he
Speaker 3: got cleared to play. He got in a couple series,
Speaker 3: so that was a good thing. I think you saw
Speaker 3: when Savannah brought up Marquise Bell nine tackles in the game.
Speaker 3: But there's a guy that played a lot of football
Speaker 3: last year.
Speaker 4: Yes, so he got out there.
Speaker 2: At a different positions position did well.
Speaker 3: And he did well. Jane Thomas the same thing. They
Speaker 3: need these young guys to step up. They need Marshawn
Speaker 3: Neeland to be a player at defensive end. He got
Speaker 3: a bunch of snaps if you just look at the
Speaker 3: draft choices. Maris Leophile got a whole bunch of snaps. Yea.
Speaker 3: And the guy that I kept bringing up, Willie Harvey
Speaker 3: from the UFL. He got in there at middle linebacker
Speaker 3: and made plays. And I thought they cheated him on
Speaker 3: the sheet here on tackles, they had gave him three,
Speaker 3: but he should have had a couple more. Assisted tackles
Speaker 3: in that game, so they got a chance to see him.
Speaker 3: They need to develop these guys if they're gonna go somewhere.
Speaker 3: Kaylin Carson got a lot of snaps in the game,
Speaker 3: their fifth round draft choice at cornerback, and you know,
Speaker 3: and he is showing up here in practice.
Speaker 4: So this is his first game in the NFL. I
Speaker 4: thought he did some nice thing.
Speaker 3: He got beat a few times, but didn't give up
Speaker 3: anything of note. And I thought it was funny last
Speaker 3: week when Dak Prescott was asked about him.
Speaker 4: They asked Dak.
Speaker 3: About his impressions, you know, having to play against Kitln Carson,
Speaker 3: and I don't know if Dak didn't hear the question.
Speaker 3: He goes who, and they said Kayln Carson. He goes, oh,
Speaker 3: you're talking about seat belt Carson. That's how Dak knows him.
Speaker 3: That's his nickname because he will lock wide receivers down.
Speaker 3: So he got a lot of snaps. So yeah, all
Speaker 3: these young guys, that's what they need because if this
Speaker 3: team's going to improve, and they said it from the beginning,
Speaker 3: it's going to come from within with first and second
Speaker 3: year guys stepping up.
Speaker 5: Speaking of one, Eric Scott, yes, that was somebody who
Speaker 5: I wanted to mention as well. His interception yesterday was
Speaker 5: a big one, but that was probably the most I've
Speaker 5: seen from him during this camp period of time. You know,
Speaker 5: even out here at practice, he hadn't seen much from him.
Speaker 5: So it was good to see him actually make a
Speaker 5: big play like that because he was somebody who I
Speaker 5: felt was flying.
Speaker 4: Under the radar.
Speaker 6: It's just kneeling, I mean you the guys that were
Speaker 6: just flashing, just showing up, you know, and I'm quite
Speaker 6: sure the rams ram dot com is over there talking
Speaker 6: about their guys.
Speaker 2: You know, they don't have the flare we have.
Speaker 6: As the Dallas Cowboys, but I'm quite sure they are
Speaker 6: excited about a few guys.
Speaker 2: It's about four or five guys that you that y'all
Speaker 2: have mentioned.
Speaker 6: We're gonna need these guys by the six or seventh
Speaker 6: game to really start showing who they are if we're
Speaker 6: gonna be in this race. And that that is my
Speaker 6: deal though, I mean you you, if you were gonna
Speaker 6: look at this the right way, these guys that we've
Speaker 6: talked about, excuse Trey Lance, but these other guys we've
Speaker 6: talked about, we're gonna need them to be a part
Speaker 6: of this core, uh, member of the team, so that
Speaker 6: this team can be successful.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about ten or more wins.
Speaker 6: Ten or more wins that gives you an opportunity to
Speaker 6: maybe eleven wins, to be in this playoff again. And
Speaker 6: so these are the guys that miss Savannah and mickeya
Speaker 6: talking about it. I'm talking about that we need to
Speaker 6: show up. You know in these preseason games.
Speaker 3: You know, one of the guys that we've seen show
Speaker 3: up in practice and kind of consistently Jalen Cropper, And
Speaker 3: in the game he ended up being the Cowboys leading
Speaker 3: receiver four catches for twenty six yards.
Speaker 4: I know there was a couple of.
Speaker 3: Short ones in there, but he continued as a wide
Speaker 3: receiver making himself available.
Speaker 4: Same thing with Jalen Brooks.
Speaker 3: Savannah pointed out the big catch from Cooper Rush I
Speaker 3: think it was forty.
Speaker 4: Eight yards. And he's one of the guys. I mean,
Speaker 4: you're gonna have to have.
Speaker 3: Five receivers, right, You get CD back here, you got
Speaker 3: Brandon Cooks, you got Jareb Tolbert had, you got Turpin
Speaker 3: and Brooks. So if they keep five, that's right. So
Speaker 3: where's where does Cropper fit?
Speaker 4: In right.
Speaker 3: John Stevens showed that he can get open. And again
Speaker 3: this is his first game since college missed all last
Speaker 3: season with the torn acl uh. So this is where
Speaker 3: this team needs to improve in uh and and they
Speaker 3: got a lot of snaps and that I'm gonna repeat
Speaker 3: it again. That was Mike McCarthy's priority. Get these young
Speaker 3: guys as many snaps as I can. And again, there
Speaker 3: were times where I was writing down the play and
Speaker 3: I looked up and they were already at the line
Speaker 3: of scrimmage. So there was some pace there to squeeze
Speaker 3: in as many plays as they could in this first
Speaker 3: preseason game. And I thought they accomplished that pretty well.
Speaker 6: If you look on the league, that's that's been every
Speaker 6: offensive team's mindset.
Speaker 2: We need reps, we need player.
Speaker 6: The only way you can develop these guys, especially young guys,
Speaker 6: to give them reps, you know, give them. The more reps,
Speaker 6: the more times they can download all this this experience
Speaker 6: that they're gaining by each play.
Speaker 2: This is this is how it goes. This is if
Speaker 2: you just.
Speaker 6: Look around the league, you know, ain't nobody worrying about
Speaker 6: a record. You know, ain't nobody word about whether you
Speaker 6: won or lost. They worry about did we get sixty
Speaker 6: five plus snaps on offense? Did we get seventy plus
Speaker 6: snaps on defense? I mean even the defensive coaches ain't
Speaker 6: calling it to just they want to see your one
Speaker 6: on one individual skills. They ain't blitzing, they ain't snunting
Speaker 6: a whole lot, they ain't running a bunch of games.
Speaker 6: They want to see each individual guy get as many
Speaker 6: reps as he can and to see how he responds
Speaker 6: off of those reps. And that's just how that's how
Speaker 6: the game is played in preseason.
Speaker 3: And the attention to try lance. Uh, it's league wide
Speaker 3: with young quarterbacks. Yes, before the game, I was reading
Speaker 3: the wrap ups of eight games that were played the
Speaker 3: night before. Seven of the leads started with the quarterback
Speaker 3: that wonted the young quarterback. Everybody's focused on the quarterback.
Speaker 3: That's just the way things go.
Speaker 6: And see, I'm gonna say very quickly, and I'm not
Speaker 6: bringing up the other guy's name because if you want
Speaker 6: to know, but you think this other guy, even though
Speaker 6: he had a game when he drive it, how do
Speaker 6: you think.
Speaker 2: He really feels Stetson Bennett, I'm his name?
Speaker 3: Wow, Georgia, right, you going to the SEC like that,
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Speaker 2: That's that's the Missouri hate.
Speaker 4: And guess what he got intercepted four.
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Speaker 3: So I'm just gonna ask you guys again, any players
Speaker 3: you want to bring up that we have it brought
Speaker 3: up so far.
Speaker 5: Yes, I do have one, and actually I think it's
Speaker 5: kind of a fun little fan story. If you recall,
Speaker 5: Cooper Bebe had his mom and his dad, you know,
Speaker 5: when he first was drafted, helping him practice his snaps
Speaker 5: in his backyard back in Kansas, right. Well, they attended
Speaker 5: the game yesterday at SOFI Stadium. Tom and Tamra, his
Speaker 5: mom and dad got to watch Cooper go out and
Speaker 5: take his first set of NFL snaps, and so I
Speaker 5: thought that was a really cool moment for the BB family.
Speaker 5: And I'm sure, you know, obviously with Cooper, he's kind
Speaker 5: of fighting for that position brock Hoffman's, you know, if
Speaker 5: you ask me, more of the starting guy for it.
Speaker 5: But getting those reps for Cooper BB really big for him.
Speaker 5: I thought he did a decent job yesterday.
Speaker 3: And since she brought up family, I don't know if
Speaker 3: anybody noticed, but when the Cowboys were going to get
Speaker 3: the ball back with a kickoff with four seconds left,
Speaker 3: we were sitting there near the locker room, game wasn't over,
Speaker 3: and here comes Brandon Aubrey running to the locker room. Well,
Speaker 3: he needed to get back home because his wife was
Speaker 3: scheduled to have their child, first child today, and so
Speaker 3: he was trying to make a flight to get back
Speaker 3: to Dallas in time to be there for the birth
Speaker 3: of his child.
Speaker 2: So that was.
Speaker 3: Another family situation there. Okay, players, Nate, anybody else.
Speaker 6: Carl Davis Number ninety eight. Oh yeah, he he broke
Speaker 6: some backs. I watched him in a couple of series.
Speaker 6: He bent some folks man, you know. And once, like
Speaker 6: you say, Overshonn.
Speaker 2: He had.
Speaker 6: He showed up early in the game. I mean he
Speaker 6: ran a dude down. It was second and seven. Next
Speaker 6: thing you know, it's thirty eight. I mean he hit
Speaker 6: the dude in the backfield. Just guys like that that
Speaker 6: just pop up and just show up and do what
Speaker 6: they have to do. I just want to make sure
Speaker 6: everybody knows ninety eight Card Davis, he'll break you.
Speaker 3: Back, Savannahs anybody else for you.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: I mean I really did like seeing ric o'dowdell the
Speaker 5: first set of drives there. I mean, it looked like
Speaker 5: he picked up right where he left off. But I
Speaker 5: definitely want to see this next game a little bit
Speaker 5: more out of the full running back committee there because
Speaker 5: I think Hunter Lupke didn't see enough out of him.
Speaker 5: Want to see what he's doing there. And then, you know, honestly,
Speaker 5: I have no update on Deucewan. Yeah he's there, so
Speaker 5: that's one thing I want to keep out.
Speaker 3: He's still got a hamstring going, so he needs to
Speaker 3: get back into practice. As does Royce Freeman, because Malik
Speaker 3: Davis is starting to remind everybody that he you know,
Speaker 3: he has played in the league before. So I also
Speaker 3: thought a guy that we saw here in training camp
Speaker 3: showing up number thirty one, Josh Butler, the cornerback. He
Speaker 3: ended up with four tackles, one for a loss, and
Speaker 3: he had two pass breakups. So uh, he really, really,
Speaker 3: uh is showing some consistency. I don't know if it's
Speaker 3: gonna be enough to force them to keep an extra
Speaker 3: cornerback or not, because you got to figure that at
Speaker 3: this point. After trading Na Shawn Wright over. I believe
Speaker 3: it was Friday.
Speaker 6: You know what, and we had enough of you, shan By.
Speaker 3: I like that that fourth and fifth cornerback spot. You know,
Speaker 3: they need guys to step up and think about it.
Speaker 3: That's what haunted him last year when Stefan Gilmour was
Speaker 3: injured had the shoulder.
Speaker 2: You know what the Cowboys problem was last year?
Speaker 4: Me, what's that?
Speaker 2: And we got abundance of him. Now it's called linebacker.
Speaker 6: If we'd have had linebacker, Yes, and Bell stayed, we
Speaker 6: are okay. The issues that y'all are worrying about ce
Speaker 6: d Lamb he will be here. Uh, Tray what's the
Speaker 6: quarterback name?
Speaker 2: Trey Lance? Don't worry. We have Cooper Rush. The things
Speaker 2: that y'all are leting, these bobblehead dumb media people worry
Speaker 2: y'all about. Don't worry.
Speaker 4: Will Trayvon Diggs be ready to play the season.
Speaker 2: It don't matter.
Speaker 6: We got a replacement for him, Baby, we gotta replace it.
Speaker 2: It don't matter. We didn't sign no free agents because
Speaker 2: we're gonna build within. Baby.
Speaker 6: We're gonna come with Savannah, George, your baby.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm here for it.
Speaker 5: Younger guys stepping up, we stepping up veterans and young folks.
Speaker 6: I'm stepping in for Bill and she's stepping in for herself.
Speaker 2: What's you stepping in for?
Speaker 4: What'd you think of the kickoffs?
Speaker 2: Oh? I loved it because you know that every coach
Speaker 2: is setting up every other coach to be somebody finna
Speaker 2: have a great year.
Speaker 4: No one's showing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was weird looking.
Speaker 5: I'll talk like just to see it happen on the TV, Like,
Speaker 5: I was like, Oh, this is gonna take some time
Speaker 5: to get but you.
Speaker 4: Know what, but I do like it.
Speaker 3: You know what worked with it? I bet you y'all
Speaker 3: watch the kickoffs. Yes, usually it's just like, okay, it's
Speaker 3: going to be a touchback, let's go right. And and
Speaker 3: Aubrey got so ramped up on that first one he
Speaker 3: kicked it into the end zone. He wasn't supposed to
Speaker 3: do that. He was just juiced to go, and he
Speaker 3: kicked it too hard. But if you notice they were
Speaker 3: trying to directionally kick and try to pin guys between
Speaker 3: the number and the sidelines.
Speaker 2: It don't matter. It's gonna be some great things come
Speaker 2: off of these kickoffs. I'm telling you, it don't matter.
Speaker 3: Nate Newton, with a little positivity here on mixed shots,
Speaker 3: appreciate you getting back here in time for the show.
Speaker 2: Where were I?
Speaker 4: Huh?
Speaker 2: Where did I go?
Speaker 4: Where did you go?
Speaker 5: Seene over here?
Speaker 2: What are you talking about?
Speaker 4: Miss driving across country?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you go on your motorcycle or your car.
Speaker 6: No, No, I couldn't have made it to Texas and
Speaker 6: back in my motorcycle.
Speaker 2: I just went and checking on my wife. You know.
Speaker 6: I got home like Friday night at what two in
Speaker 6: the morning.
Speaker 2: You all right, sweet all? She said, yeah, She rode
Speaker 2: over and went back to sleep.
Speaker 6: I got in the bed, went to sleep, woke up
Speaker 6: at at eleven o'clock and was dressed twelve and one,
Speaker 6: and I was back on my way back.
Speaker 2: To How long is the drive? About twenty hours?
Speaker 4: Just twenty hours, that's all.
Speaker 2: But I had to see my wife first.
Speaker 4: I love you, but show for twenty four hours you saw.
Speaker 6: Yes, no, no, no, I saw it. But I got
Speaker 6: in at two or three Friday.
Speaker 2: Morning, woke up at Saturday morning, and then left at eleven.
Speaker 2: Left after that eleven twelve o'clock.
Speaker 3: I love you, Michelle, mister cross country. All right, we'll
Speaker 3: be back on Wednesday, eight a m.
Speaker 2: Out You'll be in Las Vegas.
Speaker 4: She's driving, we're driving. We're driving to Vegas.
Speaker 2: Chris being driving to Chris.
Speaker 3: Thanks a lot, Nate, Savannah, Mickey will be better. Mix
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