1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge podcast presented by DraftKings. Garret and 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: I are here to break down some of the film, 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: talk through some of that after, you know, a reaction 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: to the game. Some people texting me they're like, yeah, 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: I could tell you that one. That one hurts you. 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: It was pretty raw. It was pretty raw. It's sunk 7 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: in now you get a chance to watch the film 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: and you know it. Obviously it was a tough game, right, 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: but I think some of the results of the game 10 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: and some of the near misses and the frustration about 11 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: the way that it kind of especially at the end, 12 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: played out with all the close calls and the gosh 13 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: I should have would have cut us like that overshadows 14 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: a lot of the really good plays that the Ravens 15 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: made in this game. And I thought John Harball made 16 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: a good point on Monday about saying, you know, we 17 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: stepped up and made some critical plays in critical situations, 18 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: like certainly didn't make them all right, but made some 19 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: of them. And like, that game had so many pivotal 20 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: moments where you're like, well, here's the ball game. This 21 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: is the ball game right here, right, like I said it, 22 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 1: it felt like a dozen times not quite that many, 23 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: but it was a lot. Yeah, and the Ravens made 24 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: some and you're like, we just won the game, and 25 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: then they didn't make some and they didn't win the 26 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: game for those reasons or whatever, and so it was 27 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: kind of a wacky game that I honestly do feel 28 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: like down the line is one that you know, could 29 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: be one that you look back on. You like that 30 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: kind of forged us a little bit, you know, and 31 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 1: made us overall a better team. It wasn't the result 32 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: that you want in the standings, but it like that 33 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: kind of made us a better team. Ultimately. That's what 34 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: you hope for. Yeah, that's that's the hope right there. 35 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 1: That's that's what you need to to kind of spin 36 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: out of this, you know, you need to to get better. 37 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: As John Harbal said, And when I looked back at 38 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: the film, I saw a lot of the things that 39 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: I think John was referring to that that you really like, Yeah. 40 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: I think that like, if you look back on this 41 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: game and it it's two months from now and we're 42 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: all so and what you just said, which is like, man, 43 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: that game was really disappointing, but then you for you 44 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: to take a hard look in the mirror and you 45 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: were able to figure some things out and you were 46 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: able to get better as a result of that. 47 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: Let's also say that's good. You get healthier will be 48 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: a major part of that equation if you got to 49 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: do it. 50 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: I mean, but I mean that to be honest, that's 51 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: the hope. I don't know that that's it got unhealthier. 52 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 2: You know, in the game, you lost David a job overside, bait. 53 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: I'm talking two months from now, you know, hopefully like 54 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: the rosters in a much better place than it is 55 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: right now. It's hard. It's hard. I'm not even going 56 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: to finish that sentence. Not even going to finish that sentence. 57 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 2: Well, it's funny you mentioned that the emotions of the 58 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: of the game, you know, right after the game podcast, 59 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: I got an email from Chris in Scotland at the 60 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: line at Ravens on NFL time Net and he said, 61 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: I just listened to the reaction podcast. I can hear 62 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: the disappointment in your voices and thought the description of 63 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 2: the roller coaster of emotions that was the fourth quarter 64 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: and over time it was all spot on. So I 65 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,279 Speaker 2: think that he kind of hit that that point. 66 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: Didn't somebody else call therapy session. Yeah, but that's what 67 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: it felt like. 68 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: Ronnie emailed us and said, thanks guys for the group 69 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 2: therapy after the loss. Covered everything in the numerous things 70 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: and events that could have gone right that could have 71 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: turned the game into a big, ugly win had that 72 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: happened anyway. 73 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: And it's free. This is free therapy that you get 74 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: on the post game breakdown pod. 75 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think that. I mean the other point too, 76 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 2: that John Harbaugh made in his One day press conference 77 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 2: is that, and this is really the case for any 78 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 2: team early in the season, win or lose, you don't 79 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: want the result to dictate the way that you approach 80 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 2: the areas that need to be improsurved. Like if Justin 81 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: Tucker's field goal goes in from sixty one yards, there's 82 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: still things that need to be cleaned up on both 83 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: sides of the ball. Really, all three phases special Teams 84 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 2: included that you need to get better at and sometimes 85 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: when you're winning the games, as we've said before, it's 86 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: nice to work on those things with a win in 87 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 2: your back pocket, but sometimes it's a little harder to 88 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 2: take a hard look at those things when you get 89 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: the win. You feel like, okay, we can overcome those mistakes, 90 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: and when you lose a game, it really forces you 91 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: to take a hard look at everything. 92 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. All right, So let's dive into this a 93 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,119 Speaker 1: little bit and I'll kind of start at the beginning here. 94 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: And I thought that the offense, you know, after the game, 95 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: I think I think I said something like I don't 96 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: recall a single shot taken down the field. That was untrue. 97 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: Went back to the film and early on they took 98 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: a couple shots to the tight ends, and one on 99 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: the opening drive was a really pretty play. And this 100 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: was a shot where they kind of moved Gus Edwards 101 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: out into the flats. Lamar Jackson does such a nice 102 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: job really, like just his footwork and the way his 103 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: hips are pointed and his eyes. He kind of makes 104 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: the safety end linebacker take a step and they pause 105 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: towards Gus Edwards and that opens it up right over 106 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: the top of them for Isaiah Likely and he throws 107 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 1: a perfect pass right over the top. It was just 108 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: really pretty design, really good execution by Lamar to manipulate 109 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: the linebacker or safety. I mean, that's that's top level 110 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: quarterback play right there. 111 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, can I the opening drive really was 112 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 2: the thing of beauty was offense, and honestly, the second 113 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 2: drive was looking like a thing of beauty two before 114 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 2: the Kenyan Drake football. Yep, it was like man, they 115 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: were marching. They were mixing it up, running pass and 116 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: delivering strikes. 117 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: The second drive was another shot to Mark Andrews. 118 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: Right. 119 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: It was basically kind of almost four verts with a 120 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: little bit there's a little bit more to it than that, 121 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: but you know, attacking vertically. You see that with Todd 122 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: Munkins offense, three wide receiver, Mark Andrews attacking vertically and 123 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: Lamar just a really nice pass over the top. 124 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is maybe a good time to 125 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: discuss this, and I don't know if you're planning to later, 126 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 2: but there's been a little bit of conversation in the 127 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 2: media national media over the past twenty four to forty 128 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 2: eight hours about this offense. Channon Sharp has talked about it. 129 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 2: Ryan Clark has talked about it. Let you burk this up, 130 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: and the criticism of it is basically that the offense 131 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 2: doesn't look, you know, the same old offense that was. 132 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, Ryan Clark's the line or Shannon sharks 133 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: line are kind of a combination of the two of 134 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: them basically, and that you know, they they talked about 135 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: all these different things that they're going to do and 136 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: you get down to it and it's the same old 137 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: offense and it's not good enough. Yeah, that was a criticism. Yeah, 138 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: I don't buy that. 139 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: My reaction is that is a very cold take both 140 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: of those And respects to those guys, like I think 141 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: they're good at what they do, they just missed the 142 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: mark on this one. That's a cold take. They're wrong. 143 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: It's an extremely different offense. 144 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, the offense itself as much. I think you can 145 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: criticize elements of of within the game. 146 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: Sure, sure you can criticize the offensive execution against the Colts, 147 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: and you know there's reasons for that, but like to 148 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: say that it's the same old offense as Greg Romans 149 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: is just false. I mean, they're three wide receiver over 150 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: fifty percent of the time. They had three wide against 151 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: the Colts, more than the previous two games. Right, Everybody 152 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: was like complimenting them after the Bengals win and saying 153 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: how great this new offense was and all this stuff. 154 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: They went even more in the opposite direction from Greg 155 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: Romans offense in this one. I get it because they're 156 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: looking at Lamar runs. They're looking at Lamar. You know, 157 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: the Ravens lean on Lamar's legs and and sure you 158 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: know they did that more in this game. And you 159 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: see hundred rushing yards from Lamar Jackson, and the easy, 160 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: like just lazy take is to be like, well, this 161 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: is the same old offense. So we got Lamar. You're 162 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: putting the ball in Lamar Mest's hands and run, letting 163 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: them run. Well, you know there's reasons for that. When 164 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: you again don't have two starting offensive linemen, you lose 165 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: your best running back in the game, Gus Edwards to 166 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: concussion protogram. 167 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 2: You're down your best three running backs. 168 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: You're down your best three running backs. Guess who your 169 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: best running back is on the field against the Colts 170 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: barn On, it's Lamar Jackson, Rainy wet Weather. You had 171 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: four fumbles on four straight offensive drives. They basically were like, 172 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: you know, you're having a little some protection issues against 173 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: the very good Colts defensive front, and you you say, 174 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: you know what we're gonna We're gonna put the ball 175 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: in our playmaker's hands. I don't fault that, like to 176 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: say to be rigid and say no, you can't change, 177 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: you can't use Lamar's legs because you're trying to become 178 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: something different despite what the game circumstances are would be foolish. 179 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: You have to be adaptable. And the Ravens adapted and said, 180 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: you know what, this is the best thing working today. 181 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: We're going to use it. But to say that that overall, 182 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: I'm a sweeping judgment that this offense hasn't changed is 183 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: just totally bunk. 184 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, the offense looks a lot different in a variety 185 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 2: different ways. I think that, Like, you know, I saw 186 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: plenty of fans saying that they maybe should have run 187 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 2: Lamar more in overtime, right know, in those situations and now. 188 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: Those passing plays were open. Yeah, as I said, and 189 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 1: I watched it back on film confirmed they were open. Well, 190 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: I really should have worked. 191 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 2: The play to Zay Flowers on fourth down was a 192 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 2: clear pass interference panel day. I think we felt it 193 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: at that time, and yeah the film and it's a 194 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: clear pass interference panal and he grabbed him, tugged him, sure, 195 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 2: pulled him off course. 196 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: And before that play, I mean Zay was wide open 197 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 1: on the little slant and it seemed we don't know again, 198 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: the film doesn't. You don't know what he's supposed to do, 199 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: But maybe Zay was. It seemed like Lamar might have 200 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: been expecting Zay to sit down in that coverage ze 201 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: he is seeing wide open green grass in front of him, 202 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: so he continues the route. Just a miscommunication to you guys, 203 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: not being on the same page with what they're seeing 204 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 1: on the field. And that happens, right, That's like, it's 205 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: hard to say whose fault that is. It's just that 206 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: happens sometimes, and it happened in a critical situation. That stinks. 207 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: The play call worked. He was wide open. Yeah, it 208 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: should have been easy for It should have been easy 209 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: for a sound. And then the other one. I mean, 210 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson makes a great throw, puts in Isaiah Lakely's 211 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: belly and he drops it. What are you gonna do? 212 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: The play call worked, he was open, Lamar hit him. 213 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? 214 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? 215 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, critical drop in a wrong time. That's what's so 216 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 1: painful about this game. But when you watch the film, 217 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: you know it was there. 218 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 2: Right, it was there. They just didn't make the play. 219 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 2: And I mean, I still feel the same way as 220 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 2: I did on Sunday, which is like, when you look 221 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 2: at the game, there was plenty of blame to go around, 222 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: and there was like different elements of like why again, 223 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 2: I said it on Sunday, Like there was like twenty 224 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: different moments of if that had happened, you feel like 225 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: that they would have won that game. And I think 226 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: that that is more confirmed when you look you have 227 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 2: some time to kind of think about it and look 228 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 2: back on it. Well. 229 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: One thing that also annoys me about specifically Ryan Clark's 230 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: comments is saying that like basically this offense, like you 231 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: have Lamar Jackson thinking too much, seemingly in this offense, 232 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: and like they need to kind of like scale it 233 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: back a little bit. Right, So, on one hand, you know, 234 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: all off season and all last year, the Ravens are 235 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: criticized for not empowering Lamar Jackson and letting to him 236 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 1: take over the offense and handcuffing Lamar Jackson essentially has 237 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: been the criticism for the years. Right, Todd Monkin comes in, 238 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 1: empowers Lamar Jackson, gives him the keys of the offense. 239 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson loves it, And now you're saying because of 240 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: a tough performance on a rainy Day whatever, right that. 241 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: Oh no, you got him thinking too much. It's the 242 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: week three of a brand new offense and they're going 243 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: to empower Lamar Jackson. The hope is that this offense 244 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: continues to get better, obviously as they grow more into it, 245 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: and that Lamar Jackson as he gets more comfortable in 246 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: being empowered this office is and taking control and all 247 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: that stuff. And I'm like that he continues to get better. 248 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: And I'm seeing that, you know, like I'm seeing that 249 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 1: on the film and you're seeing that in the games. 250 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: Like I said, that last play that broke down with 251 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: Lamar manipulating the linebacker and the safety, like that's top 252 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 1: level stuff, right. And to sit here and be like, well, 253 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: now you've put too much on his plate. I mean, 254 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: give me a break. You've been sitting here and give 255 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: them more, give it more. Yeah, and you're gonna taken 256 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: away after three weeks in the new offense, get out 257 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: of here. 258 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 2: I thought. And I thought Lamar like overall had a 259 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: pretty solid game. I mean he wants that you would 260 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 2: want that fumble. 261 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: Back, Yeah, I think he did too. Yeah, Like late 262 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 1: late in the game, like he made some plays that 263 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: we would if if Justin Tucker makes a sixty one 264 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: yarder or whatever, if if that ball's not dropped or whatever, 265 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: any of those the past interference is called. Any of 266 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: those gets played out. This week, we're all talking about 267 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: man comeback effort from Lamar in tough conditions, and like, man, 268 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: he made some big time plays. 269 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, and like he did it with his arm and 270 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 2: with his and they started red hot. I think that 271 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 2: and you got to consider, like you take the full picture. 272 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 2: Bad weather was a factor. You lose your top three 273 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 2: running backs, like I already mentioned, you're down Odell Beckham Junior, 274 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: where shab Bateman leaves the game with a hamstring issue. 275 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 2: So you're down two of your top four receivers and 276 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 2: your top three running backs and two of your starting 277 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 2: offensive linement. And despite all of that, Lamar really had 278 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 2: in a position to win the game had a few 279 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 2: things gone right. So I think that, like to say 280 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 2: that there's too much on his plate is just not accurate. 281 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 2: I mean, Lamar handled that totally fine, and I think 282 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: he played a pretty good game. So I'm not like, 283 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: I'm really not pushing the panic button on the offense. 284 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: I think that it's easy to do that after a loss. 285 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 2: I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. 286 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: You know, if we if we get to the mid 287 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: season or the end of the year and and you know, 288 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 1: the offense is like it's still not working, Like okay, 289 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: we can have the conversation then and evaluate like was 290 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: was the heavy like heavier passing attack, the right way 291 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: to go. 292 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 2: Or whatever we were saying that everyone was raising the offense. 293 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: It's just it's just crazy to me. After three weeks, 294 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: it's just crazy to me. And one other play that 295 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: I'll point to that got kind of lost in the 296 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: shuffle is the completion of Nelson Aguilar at the end 297 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: of regulation, an eighteen yard completion Lamar takes. It was 298 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: a rough sack. It was the protection didn't pick up. Basically, 299 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: a stunt got through up the middle and Lamar got flushed, 300 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: got sacked for a ten yard sack. Okay, Basically you're thinking, well, 301 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: that was nice while it lasted. We had a shot 302 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: to maybe pull off a miracle here at the end 303 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: of regulation. Not going to happen. Wrong again, eighteen yard 304 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: completion to Nelly right on a really pretty good play 305 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: design and a nice route by Nelly, really kind of 306 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: feeling out the defensive back. He kind of set it 307 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 1: up with a juke to the left and just opened 308 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: up enough of a throwing windows for Lamar, just right 309 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: up the seam, and Lamar just drilled that ball in there, 310 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 1: and you're like, holy cow, I mean Tucker hits the 311 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: six and one yarder. We're also talking about that play 312 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: like a wow play. Yeah right, what's kind of like 313 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: they're in full prevent defense and you ripped eighteen yard 314 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: down the middle. 315 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was kind of like like the Sammy Watkins 316 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 2: play years ago in Chicago. I think that was. 317 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: Well, you had the one that set up the Tucker game, 318 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: the Tucker one in Detroit. 319 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, six yard Yeah that one too. Yeah, 320 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 2: So like it kind of reminded me of of that. 321 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: Like just total could have been the Sammy Watkins play. 322 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 2: Yes, and it just you know, obviously it didn't work out. 323 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 2: But yeah, like I said, I think like when you 324 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 2: really consider all of the factors, I thought Lamar played 325 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 2: a pretty good game. There's a couple of things that 326 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 2: he would want to want back and want to do differently. 327 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 2: But like I have been when I look at these 328 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 2: three games, I've been encouraged by the development that I've 329 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 2: seen from him, and really all aspects the call running 330 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 2: game has not gone to zero, but it is a 331 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 2: smaller piece of the equation. I honestly do wonder here 332 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: as moving forward and you're looking at the running back situation, 333 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 2: Justice Hill continues to miss time, if Gus Edwards misses 334 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: time for. 335 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: The time being, the called running quarterback run game, but 336 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: it might have to. 337 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 2: Go back to it more like, yeah, which. 338 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: Is fine, that's fine, Like that doesn't mean that you're 339 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: diverting from the overall strategy of the three wide and 340 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: throwing the ball more and letting Mark grow Moore as 341 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: a passer and all that stuff. Like you do what 342 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: you need to win games. That's what it's about totally. 343 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 2: And I do wonder if they're going to have to 344 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 2: lean on that a little bit more, because if they're down, 345 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 2: I mean, there's a possibility that the Ravens go into 346 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: this game with Melvin Gordon, Kenyon Drake and maybe Owen 347 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 2: Right getting a practice squad elevation to three. You don't know, 348 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: Justice Hill, Ugust Edward sad it's now maybe Justice and 349 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 2: Gust back this week. So and that's not but the 350 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 2: possibility and if that's the case, I would expect to 351 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 2: see a good amount of Lamar and his legs against 352 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: the Browns. 353 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's one other thing I want to point to 354 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: before we pivot off the offense. And also with Monkin's schemes, 355 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: you know, talking about oh it's the same as Greg Roman. No, 356 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: there's certainly part of the called run game with the 357 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: running backs has roman Esque looks to it. But what 358 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: I'm seeing from Todd Munkan is, you know, with Greg Roman, 359 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: it was always kind of a anybody could be pooling 360 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: at any time, like any of the five offensive linemen 361 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: could be pulling, and you had Patricar moving all over 362 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: the place and all that stuff. You're still seeing a 363 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: lot of that with pat right but as a and 364 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: you still see a fair amount of pulling, you know, 365 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: pulling different guards and tackles and stuff. But what's interesting 366 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: about Mounkin that I'm seeing is you don't know where 367 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: anybody's gonna line up, like the unbalanced line stuff with 368 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: Munkin through the over the past two games, at least 369 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: a fair amount of that stuff. You had Mark Andrews 370 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: at left tackle on one pavillion this past week. That 371 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: was a nice I think it was a twelve yard 372 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: run by Gus. You had Mark Andrews at left tackle, 373 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: John Simpson, you know, then you had Mustafer and uh 374 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: Pat McCarey was flipped over to the right of more 375 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: Moses an extra right tackle. 376 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 2: You run that one and h and throw the past 377 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 2: Pat McCarey later in the season. 378 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Well, so that was an interesting one. There's 379 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: another formation that they used a couple of times that 380 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: I noticed, maybe it was even more it worked once 381 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: that I saw did not work the other time where 382 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: Lamar's in the shotgun and then he had a running 383 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: back to his left and then pat Ricard in front 384 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: of him, like an eye formation to the left, and 385 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: I think once the right of a shotgun like shotgun 386 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: combined with eye formation, it was just an interesting look. 387 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: So I think some of those wrinkles that we're seeing 388 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 1: from Todd Monkin in the called run game is is 389 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: pretty cool. 390 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, And like I mean, the run game is pretty 391 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 2: darn goo with Greg Rumman both called running back game 392 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 2: and called quarterback run game. 393 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: Yep. 394 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 2: So like that was something even when Todd Munkin was hired, 395 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 2: it was kind of like, all right, can we preserve 396 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 2: this success, got a good thing to go on here. 397 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: Let's not completely throw that out. And I think that 398 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 2: the Ravens have been able to do that, been able 399 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 2: to add in new wrinkles like you're mentioning, but also 400 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 2: maintain some of the foundation that's been so successful here 401 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 2: over the past year War Week. 402 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: Some of it is really trying to create numbers advantages 403 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: like Greg did without such heavy for personnel. Yeah right, 404 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: Greg was very heavy personnel, multiple tight ends, fullback, all 405 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: that stuff, right, whereas Monken is primarily operating out a 406 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,239 Speaker 1: three wide receiver, one tight end, one running back, and 407 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 1: so you're trying to still get number of advantages at 408 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: the point of attack and get a hat on a hat, 409 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: but without having to have so many tight ends in 410 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: the game basically yep, yep. So it's kind of interesting 411 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: how he's doing that. All right, let's flip it over 412 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: to the defense. Yep, you go with that. And I 413 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: want to take a pause here, and I'll start out 414 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: this way. So Jim Kohler, all right, he's in our 415 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: finance department, front of the lounge, Friend of the budget, 416 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: Friend of the expense, reports Jim Kohler. 417 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 2: One of my favorite guests. We've ever had in the lounge. 418 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: That was an ald timer. 419 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 2: If you reviewed my combine expense report, and he came 420 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 2: out on my side, let's not forget let's not forget here. 421 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 2: He came out squarely on my side. 422 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: I have to review the tape on that we could. 423 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: I would be glad to review the tape my good 424 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 2: friend Jim. Just if you haven't listened to that episode. 425 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 2: He also pulled up Jim's rubber stamp in your steaks, 426 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 2: your ninety dollars steak is Jim. Also, Jim also pulled 427 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 2: up makes expense reports like the last five years. It 428 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 2: was great, and they thought he was he was here 429 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 2: to like try to throw me under the bus. Jim came. 430 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 2: He had their seats, literally the seats. 431 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: Anyway, thanks to Jim, because I'm walking out of the 432 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 1: cafeteria today and he's like, you know, I gotta I 433 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: have a segment idea for the lounge. You should do 434 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: the Dog of the Week, which I totally agree with. 435 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: I even pitched it to you a little while ago, 436 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 1: and everybody kind of just didn't go anywhere. You know, 437 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: one of those things you just forgot about it you 438 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: bring up in a meeting and then everybody's like, oh yeah, yeah, 439 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:44,479 Speaker 1: then it just doesn't go here. 440 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 2: Anyway. 441 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: We're doing it because Jim wants it, and Jim gets 442 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: what he wants. 443 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 2: All right, you just try to make sure that on 444 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 2: the next road trip that you can get a ninety 445 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 2: dollar steak butter. This was this all part of the plan. 446 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 2: You're all right, Jim, we'll do a Dog of the week. 447 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 2: You just got to keep it under the radar here 448 00:19:58,480 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: next road trip, I'm gonna. 449 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,239 Speaker 1: Go to the We're going to London soon. We're going 450 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: to London. The expense reports are coming, Jim, I buttered 451 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: that bread. Don't you forget? The fish and chips are 452 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: going to be on there. There might be a couple 453 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: of pints. 454 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, look the other way on the pints. 455 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, look at all part of dinner. That's just an 456 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: English dinner. Yeah, gotta have a right anyway, So the 457 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: Dog of the week, right, And really it's perfect timing 458 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: to also start this because Paranelle McFee was a legend 459 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: of the game this past week and he's the original No. 460 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 2: Just the. 461 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: Right. I mean, I love talking to that guy because 462 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: you would say dog like five times, and every every 463 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,719 Speaker 1: time you talk to him. Every quote had that. 464 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 2: Yes, So I talked to him before the game. He 465 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 2: was talking about he was talking about that dog. He 466 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 2: was dogging. 467 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: I like it. So this starts the Proanelle McFee nog 468 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: the week and this week you gotta give it to 469 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton, right, I mean three sacks and you know 470 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: Kyle said they were kind of wide open. You know, 471 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: they were kind of open, but he finished them right, Like, 472 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: how many times have you seen guys not finish that 473 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 1: sat He finished all three of them. Plus it's like historic, right, 474 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a historic dog performance, right, And three 475 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: sacks is a lot of bones. 476 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 2: How many other dog references you're gonna work in? 477 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: I got more of it? And plus, like what else 478 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: I saw was like, I mean, he had to stop 479 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmagery, just destroyed the blocker coming for 480 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: him to blow and took down Michael Pittman. It was 481 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: just a great play the past deflection. I mean, you know, 482 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: you see why John Harvill said he's not gonna lock 483 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: on during his Money press conference. John Harball said he's 484 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: not gonna lock Kyle Hamilton into going back to that 485 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: slot role that we saw him have. So much success 486 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: in during his rookie season. It's kind of a game 487 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 1: the game thing and personnel right ourd Area's Washington isn't 488 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: coming back immediately. He's on ir But like, I don't 489 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: think you can just say put Kyle on the slot 490 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: and let's just see them there, right, because whatever, maybe 491 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: Arthur Mallett steps up, and maybe Marlon Humphrey comes back in. 492 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: Marlon plays some of the slot, and you stick with 493 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,479 Speaker 1: Brandon Stevens and Darby and rock you scene. You know, 494 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: like there's various combinations that the Ravens can use, so 495 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: they're not just gonna say Kyle Hamilton, you're back to 496 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: slot full time. 497 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Basically, what the other factor here is strange. It 498 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 2: kind of becomes a competition between Darryl Worley and Arthur 499 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 2: Mallett to a certain degree, and then Marlon Humphrey also 500 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 2: is in that mix there. But like essentially they wanted 501 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 2: Darryl Worley at a traditional safety spot. 502 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: They thought it was a better combination of having him 503 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: in a traditional safety spot and Kyle Hamilton is the 504 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: slot than Arthur Mallett and the slot and Kyle Hamilton 505 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: at safety and for this game. 506 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 2: And the three safety look in this game, it's Terrol 507 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 2: Worley ended up playing one hundred and two total snap 508 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: special teams included. That's the most of any player in 509 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 2: the NFL this year, right, so that was the most 510 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 2: of It's also the most of any Ravens player under 511 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 2: John harv. 512 00:22:55,440 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: I mean, a candidate for the Weekend. 513 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 2: And that's remarkable that he was able to do that. 514 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: Yes. 515 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 2: So also, Kyle had a pass deflection at the Linet scrimmage. 516 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 2: He's gonna all that play. 517 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 1: For me to say, like, it's tempting to leave him 518 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: in there because he's just so good at it. 519 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 2: There's going to be a play this year where he 520 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 2: snags that, you know, so it just returns all practically. Yeah. 521 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 2: Javian Clowney called him an avatar. 522 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought sounds pretty good. 523 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 2: He's there's gonna be one of those plays because he 524 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 2: came close last week too and he kind of batted 525 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,719 Speaker 2: this one up. He's gott to bat it up or 526 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 2: just pluck it right out of there and then return 527 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 2: like that. 528 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 1: I think that's a good call. 529 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so let's take a quick break and 530 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 2: then when we come back, we'll give you some more 531 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 2: thoughts on this defense. 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Again, the promo code is flock. 539 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 2: You got to download the Draft Kings Sports Book app. 540 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: You need to be twenty one or older to play 541 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 2: and physically present in Maryland. For help, visit empty gambleyhelp 542 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 2: dot org or call one eight hundred gambler yep. 543 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: So, talking about the defense, you know they weren't exempt 544 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: from kind of the close calls, right, I mean Kyle 545 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: Hamilton's third sack Forces of Fumble, and I do you 546 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: know you watch the film back and and you do 547 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 1: see a lot of green grass in front of Jeremiah Moune. 548 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: He's sticking scoop and score. Of course you kind of 549 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: see it when you watch it back. 550 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 2: You're like, I think it's hard for a young guy 551 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 2: in our situation, playing his first NFL game, to be 552 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 2: looking at nothing but green grass and on it you 553 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 2: got visions of your of the touchdown, Dan, you've been 554 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 2: doing in the mirror since you were, you know, ten 555 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 2: years old, Like that's all running through your head. And 556 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 2: he tried to pick it up. He aditionally did pick 557 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 2: it up, and then it got the guy. 558 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: Hit his arms, Yeah, the offensive lemon dove and like 559 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: hit his arms and it came out. Yeah. And then 560 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: Brandon Stevens had a shot it and it's just oh 561 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: man talking about close calls that was that would have 562 00:24:58,600 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: set him up for a field goal at the end 563 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: of of the first half. Yeah, that would have been 564 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:02,719 Speaker 1: key points. 565 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 2: And it's hard to like, it's hard to like criticize 566 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 2: that play. It's like, you know, but when you're just 567 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 2: sitting right there for you. 568 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: Just to have another one of those, oh yeah. And 569 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: then you look at the seventeen yard touchdown pass to 570 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 1: Moss that Queen had really good coverage on it. And 571 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: I thought that Patrick broke down the play exactly right 572 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: in the postgame locker room as to what I saw 573 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: in film, which was he almost you're so used to saying, 574 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: man turn your head, turn your head, get your get 575 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: your eyes on the ball, play the ball. He almost 576 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: did it too early, yeah, right, he kind of turned 577 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: his head and then that allowed Moss to get a 578 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: little push off. He just got a little little something 579 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: there to get enough extension to make that play and 580 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: tried it to Peq like he was he was. Basically, 581 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: it's a good play by that guy, you know, no excuses, 582 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: like he made a good play. Peak was in good 583 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: coverage and just it was close, you know, another close call. 584 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: And then you see even the play in overtime. I mean, 585 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: Brandon Stevens is right. 586 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 2: Up, he's all over Michael Pittman all over him. It's 587 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 2: a great play, great play. 588 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: And then you look at the defense. I know, the 589 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: run defense was kind of the the takeaway the sore 590 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,239 Speaker 1: spot for the defense coming out of this game. Right Well, 591 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: when you really break it down, so Zach Moss had 592 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty two rushing yards. Seventy three of 593 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: those carries. Of those yards, I mean came on four 594 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: carries twenty four to twelve, a twenty four to thirteen. 595 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 2: And that was John Harboss point on Monday. 596 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: Right now, you can't just say, well you know, you 597 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: just erase those they happened, right, But like when you 598 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: go back and watch the tape, all very fixable, Like 599 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: it's not like the Ravens were getting bodied on run defense. 600 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: They weren't getting blown up, and it wasn't like the 601 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: Colts were sitting there controlling the line of scrimmage like, 602 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: you know, I think it had kind of been made 603 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: it out to be somewhat like that was not the 604 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: case at all, right, I mean, on the other twenty 605 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 1: four carries on the other sorry twenty six carries that 606 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 1: Zach Moss had, he averaged one point nine per run. Yeah, 607 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: sign you up that. So they weren't controlling the Ravens 608 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: defensive line. 609 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 2: Yeah right, It's just like they had four plays where 610 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 2: they got outside and they got some they got some 611 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 2: big plays, and it. 612 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: Was kind of different culprits on each one, right, and 613 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: so but all very fixable stuff. 614 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think, you know, the outside linebackers had 615 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 2: a tough assignment, especially when David Ajaba goes down four 616 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 2: plays into the game, so you're already without a Dafe Oway, 617 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 2: then a Jabo goes down. Now it's Jeremiah moun and 618 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 2: Davis Robinson with Malie Harrison sprinkled in there and Clowney 619 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 2: playing a lot of snaps, that's a tough order for 620 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 2: that group there. And you know, there's reports this week 621 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 2: that Kyle van Noy, you know, is visiting the Ravens. 622 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 2: They could potentially you know, this is his reported second 623 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 2: visit with the team, so they could potentially add there. 624 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I think that you know, they're thinned outside 625 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 2: linebacker now with the injuries to Away and a Jabo 626 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 2: Anti Spowser selling injury reserve, hasn't made his way back yet, 627 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 2: so you have all these things that are they're still kind. 628 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: Of that room could use some They could use some 629 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: support there they can use. 630 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 2: I think that they could add somebody there. I think 631 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 2: the running back is a potential option where you could 632 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 2: end up adding somebody, especially if. 633 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: It's just so much as up in the air health 634 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: wise there. Yeah, I think, and and an outside line 635 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: micro too. But the fact that they're having van Neim 636 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: for a visit and not a running back tells me 637 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 1: that they're a little more confident in getting running backs 638 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: back immediately than they are maybe Oway and Ojabo, And. 639 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 2: You know, you potentially at that outside linebacker spot, could 640 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 2: get Bowser back in week five, right, you know he 641 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 2: could at zero she can come back. The other one 642 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 2: is Muli cam undrafted rookie who made the team that 643 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 2: went on ir you could you could have some reinforcements 644 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 2: coming with Malie cam Anti Spowser, and then who knows 645 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 2: how long Oway and a Job will be out. 646 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: Yes that is correct. Yeah, all right. Just to wrap 647 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: this up defensively, I thought, you know, obviously you saw 648 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: the safety, I mean they were there, Gardner minshew, it 649 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: was chaos in front of that dude that that was 650 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: pretty fun to watch that one back. 651 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 2: And the safety is almost disappointed to watch back then 652 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 2: because they relive you relive like the feeling at that time, 653 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 2: which is like a great wing. Guys, well done, everybody 654 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 2: high five, And like, watched that play and I'm like, 655 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 2: how did that? How did how did this go the 656 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: other way? 657 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, you're so. 658 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 2: Thanks for bringing that. I appreciate I appreciate that. 659 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: Some of my Twitter comments said the same thing, You're 660 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: not wrong. And then I thought that another play that 661 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,479 Speaker 1: like you just kind of lose because of the result 662 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: that you don't appreciate as much as it should be 663 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: is the fourth down stop in overtime at midfield. Ye, 664 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: I mean, goodness, gracious, they had that one. They had 665 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: that one schemed up three guys in the backfield almost immediately, 666 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: Brandon Stevens hits exactly the right gap from where the 667 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: pooler comes from. You have Tavius Robinson in the backfield. 668 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: Patrick Queen had the quarterback draw if they in case 669 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: they ran a fake quarterback run outside. He had that covered. 670 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: Plus the running back was in on that. I mean, 671 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: you had three dudes who hit him almost immediately. It 672 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: was awesome. That was a thing of beauty, it really was. 673 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: So you know, there a lot to like, a lot 674 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: to like from this game, I honestly, and this isn't 675 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: just me drinking the purple ko aid. I do love 676 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: me some purple kol aid. It's delicious. But I'm just 677 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: saying there's a lot to like from this game. And 678 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: I think that this will be one that the Ravens 679 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: get better from, especially as they get healthier. That'll be 680 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: a key part of this equation. 681 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and now they got a tough road ahead. Two 682 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 2: straight division games at Cleveland at Pittsburgh. Then you go 683 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 2: on the road at London to face the Titans. I 684 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 2: mean three tough, physical games. 685 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: So it's people are like, oh, three straight road games, man, Okay. 686 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: I honestly like the Ravens on the road. I like 687 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: the Ravens on the road, especially when people are downing 688 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: them and down on them and all that stuff. Put 689 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: me on the road. 690 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 2: I like. 691 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: I like them on the road better than at home 692 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: in that scenario. 693 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 2: Quite frankly, the numbers I don't think would back you 694 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 2: up on that. But if you want to go with 695 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 2: the emotional us against the world and try to say 696 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 2: all that, I think they do. But the number, if 697 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 2: you where was. 698 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: Our best win this year? Huh? 699 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 2: Was it? 700 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: Home on the road? 701 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 2: Go back and look at the last decade Home first 702 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 2: Road and see where they've had more success. 703 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: Huh. 704 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 2: You always say numbers. 705 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: Take circumstances though, backs against check check the backs on 706 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: the wall, backs against the wall, stats on that. Yeah, 707 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: what's the Ravens like when they're the underdog on the road? Ooh, 708 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: that would be an interesting thing. They probably won't be 709 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: the underdog, but they are. 710 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 2: They are the underdogs against Cleveland, they are the underdoxing Againstchool. 711 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: You're mister Vegas, you know they are there underdog here 712 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: in Cleveland. So in the Dog Pound. Oh, I can't 713 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,959 Speaker 1: wait to do the Dog the week from the Dog So, 714 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: by the way. 715 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 2: I mentioned London, if you guys haven't seen it, we 716 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 2: are doing a live lounge podcast while we're in London, 717 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 2: coming up here on that Friday, the Friday before the 718 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 2: London game, so you can get more information on all 719 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 2: the events that we're having over there in London, including 720 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 2: that live podcast. Baltimore Ravens dot com so Slash London, 721 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 2: Baltimoreves dot com, Slash London. It's a full breakdout of 722 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 2: everything we've got going on that week. And then the 723 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 2: other thing, you know, we got to do a little 724 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 2: recap here of the Chip draft. 725 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: Oh my god, the ship. You want to do this? 726 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: Which which positive? You want to do this? 727 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 2: Which was another victory for me. No that it was 728 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 2: tough game for the Ravens on Sunday, but the good 729 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 2: news is that I did get the win and the 730 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 2: Chip and. 731 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: It was a blowout. It was a blowout of all blowouts. 732 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: And here's the biggest blowout in draft history. 733 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 2: Here's an email from Jeremy who says, hey, guys, I 734 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 2: wanted to express my amazement at how make absolutely through 735 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 2: that draft and let Garrett run away with it. Scoops 736 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 2: was the right choice for the No. One overall pick, 737 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 2: so you got you got to due some points there, 738 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 2: But how do you let classic Anna hot Salsa fall? 739 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 2: Garrett got Torito's, all the best dips and then even 740 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 2: Cheetos to mix things up? 741 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: Of you, you literally didn't come away with a chip that 742 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: you could dip in anything. You literally didn't get. 743 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 2: With chips and boring lashad. 744 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: Sad, just take sad. 745 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 2: Uh. 746 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: Here's the other thing that I didn't mention at the time. 747 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: Like you you have a major cheesy fingers problem with 748 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: your draft. Like you have you have three options. Okay, 749 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: with your Dorito's and Cheetos. You have no diplicile chip, 750 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: which is the biggest problem with your draft, But you 751 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: have a cheesy finger problem. You either can lick your fingers. 752 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: That's against the rules, that's disgusting. You probably would or 753 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: or or you have like a little wet nap and 754 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: after every chip that you pick up, you got a 755 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: wet nap. You just to fig're in you know, you're right, 756 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: that's option three. You're walking around with cheesy fingers the 757 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: whole time. You're getting on everybody's furniture. Yeah, on the remote, 758 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: you're getting it on everything. This is another reason. 759 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 2: On your couch, I just watch these fingers all over 760 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 2: your another reason why you're dressed starting back and why 761 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 2: I would never invite you to my part. If I 762 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 2: got a superior chip and dipping options, it just was 763 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 2: a it was a win for me, and. 764 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: So I put it on. I put it out on Twitter. 765 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: I put the poll out three and twenty five votes. 766 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: Mink got seventy six percent to your twenty four percent. 767 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: That's a blowout. 768 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's that's like real, your four votes, your 769 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 2: Twitter audience, that's your bots. You're you're stewing those results. 770 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 2: I don't believe those for a second. So that was that. 771 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 2: I'm sticking with Jeremy. Jeremy, we appreciate the email. You 772 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 2: guys are always email us of the lounge at Ravens 773 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 2: that NFL dot Net. It's good to get that win. 774 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 2: So we will be back with you a little bit 775 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 2: later this week with a player interview and also look 776 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 2: ahead to this game against the Browns. So we're going 777 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 2: to kind of dive into what the Ravens need to 778 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 2: do to get back on track in that win, so 779 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,919 Speaker 2: thanks for listening and we'll be back with you later 780 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 2: this week.