1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Command his family. Welcome into Next Man Up. We have 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: been sent it on the show to talk about his 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: infamous Taylor Swift play and to get us ready for 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: our whole matchup against the Chicago Bears. And of course 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: you know we had to bring a legend on. Brian 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: o'rock Poe joins the show to talk about his cupcake business, 7 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: his favorite memories in Washington, and how much he loves 8 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: the Burgundy and Gold fans. All that starts right now 9 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: on Next Man to command this family for our Next 10 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: Man Up. We got somebody extremely special coming off of 11 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: his not only his first reception, but his first NFL 12 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: career touchdown. 13 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: Walkoming my guy, Ben siding Man, how you doing, brother? 14 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 3: I'm doing good. Appreciate you having me, yees. 15 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: Sir man. 16 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: The last time we've done this, we were in a 17 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: whole new studio. You had just got drafted. So first things, first, man, 18 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: has anything surprised you since then? 19 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: You're a rookie? What has surprised you about this NFL? 20 00:00:59,720 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 3: Man? 21 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 4: And I mean I think you you hear about it 22 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 4: and they say that it's a it's a strong opponent 23 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 4: every week, but I mean you you pull on the 24 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 4: film and you look at the guys you're going against. 25 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 4: I mean it's just dudes everywhere. Every team is like 26 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 4: the talent that this league has you don't even understand, 27 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 4: and guys who aren't even big names, just ballers. So 28 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 4: I think that that's the biggest thing that surprised me. 29 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 4: Is just like day in and day out. I mean, 30 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 4: you're going to get the best of the best, and 31 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 4: it's pretty cool to see and and pretty cool to 32 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 4: go and compete against that weekend and week out. 33 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: Is the speed as different as they make it sound 34 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: from college in the NFL. 35 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think one hundred percent. That's another thing. 36 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 4: It's just like the windows for throws are tighter, the 37 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 4: guys you're trying to blocker are bigger, stronger, faster. You 38 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 4: got to be really on key with your technique and 39 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 4: your your fundamentals and stuff to to really even compete. 40 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 4: So it's such a blessing to be able to compete 41 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 4: and have that competition. 42 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: Man. 43 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk little more about footballfore we do that. 44 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to bear the lead. Got engaged man. 45 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: Last time we spoke, you were not an engaged man. 46 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: Now you are, Man, what has that been like? Man, 47 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: And how cool is it to be a fiancee? 48 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 4: Now I know it's been great, man, I'm super excited. 49 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 4: Her name is Sidney. We've been together for about two years, 50 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 4: little over two years, I said, And I mean it's 51 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 4: great just being able to know that you're locked in 52 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 4: with somebody. And I mean she's amazing, like I love 53 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 4: her to death, someone who has continued to supporting me, 54 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 4: helping provide for for anything that I need, and and 55 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 4: someone who's just so loyal and just has my back man, 56 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 4: And be able to come home and see her. She's 57 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 4: she's actually got in fluent today to come see me 58 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 4: for a little bit. So just being able to go 59 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 4: home to her and have that support, man, it means 60 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 4: a lot. Takes a lot of stress off, just being 61 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 4: able to forget about work when I'm at home and 62 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 4: focus on that. 63 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: Will this be Wifey's first home game? 64 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 4: Well, she so she came to. She came to a 65 00:02:54,520 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 4: preseason one and then she came to last week. She's 66 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 4: upset about it, but yeah, she came to the week before. 67 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 4: So hopefully there's many more in the future she'll see. 68 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 4: So yeah, she'll be out here. 69 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 2: I have no doubt that there's gonna be many more. 70 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 5: Man. 71 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: So you brought it up, so let's get into it. 72 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: You get your first touchdown, first reception, first touchdown. Man, 73 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: what was that moment like for you? We talked about 74 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: it right after the game. You came on post game Live, 75 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: But man, what was that moment like for you? 76 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean you you kind of. I'm standing on 77 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 4: the sideline and Marcus comes over. He's like, man, we 78 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 4: got to call Taylor Swift. We got and I'm like, 79 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 4: I'm getting I'm getting a little nervous because I know 80 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 4: that like that the play is designed for me to 81 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 4: get the ball. And Cliff's like, all right, let's do it. 82 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 4: So we run out there and I mean my heart 83 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 4: starts racing. We're getting lined up. I'm like looking at 84 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 4: the defense. I'm like, man, I hope this works. And 85 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 4: he puts me in motion. I'm spreading over there, and 86 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 4: I mean, I dodge a couple of guys, not exactly 87 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 4: how we pictured catch it. It's like falling out of 88 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 4: my hands while I'm turning around like please don't, please, 89 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 4: don't drop it. I mean, but when I caught the 90 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 4: ball and realized that I had scored, it was so surreal. 91 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 4: You hear the crowd, and I mean it's it's just 92 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 4: everything that you ever dreamed of as a kid, just 93 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 4: all coming together and a lot of hard work and 94 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 4: tough times to get me to that moment. And I 95 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 4: mean waited six weeks for a reception, and I mean 96 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 4: it was definitely worth it. 97 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 3: Uh So it was such a cool experience. 98 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 2: And that's a big moment. Man. 99 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: You know, we have our backup quarterback in we're trying 100 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: to put points on the board. We're in the red 101 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: zone and coach says we're going to go to a 102 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: rookie tide end and that has to boost you confidence, right. 103 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. 104 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 4: I mean just knowing that that he is turning to 105 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 4: me and has that trust in me to make that 106 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 4: play and when I get my opportunity and to catch 107 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 4: it from Marcus too, I mean legend, yes, legend. So 108 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 4: like growing up watching him and never thought that I would. 109 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 3: Be catching a touchdown from him. So it's a really 110 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 3: cool moment. 111 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 4: And and Marcus coming over to the sideline and like, 112 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 4: hey let's run Taylor Swift like just shows a lot 113 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 4: about who he is and and the trust he has 114 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 4: to me. 115 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 3: So it is a It is a really cool moment. 116 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: It's so funny, man, because right before you came in, 117 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury did a presser and he talked about Taylor Swift, 118 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: the play called Taylor Swift. 119 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: So I know that you weren't. 120 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: Really responsible for naming it of that, but like, is 121 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: that kind of like what are other names we have 122 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: for plays that are like that? Like you know, you 123 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: don't tell us to play, but what are those funny 124 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: names that are like that? 125 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 5: Man? 126 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 4: We we just start we got so many things in 127 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 4: we just start running out of stuff, like naming after 128 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 4: pop stars, naming after other coaches, like it. 129 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 3: It's literally anything. 130 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 4: And everything like random random plays we have no idea 131 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 4: what the meaning is or like we need a name, 132 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 4: like and and also like similar concepts like you name 133 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 4: something one thing and you want to run similar things. 134 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 4: You got to keep building off of it, like random words. 135 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 4: So it just takes you to places like you have 136 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 4: no idea where they're going. So, uh, it's funny, but 137 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 4: it definitely helps having all the whole play in one 138 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 4: word to remember what you're doing. 139 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: And how great is that to have a guy like 140 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury that allows you guys. Yes, this is work, 141 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: this is his business, but clearly you guys are having 142 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: fun as well. Clearly these are things that help build 143 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: that camaraderie. Man, talk about Cliff Kingsbury a little bit, 144 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: because last time we had spoke, you hadn't got to 145 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: play under him yet. 146 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 2: Now you're damn near halfway through the season. Man, what's 147 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 2: it been like? 148 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 4: Man, it's been great and just another guy like you 149 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 4: watch and what he's done in his career at at 150 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 4: every level, so just be able to be with him 151 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 4: and see how he operates, and it's such a He 152 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 4: builds such a great atmosphere within the offense and just 153 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 4: allows us to have fun. But but still like you 154 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 4: got to get your work done, and it's funny, like 155 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 4: early in our rookie development, he would kind of throw 156 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 4: us into the fire a little bit and be like, 157 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 4: all right, do this, do this, Like it's just walk 158 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 4: through like ask questions and stuff and throw us into 159 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 4: the fire. Two minutes, get on the ball, running around, 160 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 4: he's like five four, Like he's just like making hard 161 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 4: on us. But he creates an environment that's so fun 162 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 4: and you never know what what's gonna happen the next day. 163 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 4: And he's got such a creative mindset with football, and 164 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 4: such a good staff around him as well to to 165 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 4: kind of keep things together. So it's a it's a 166 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 4: blessing to be able to play with him, like you 167 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 4: just play for him. 168 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like you said, you never know what's coming. 169 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: I think the defense are the same way, right, They 170 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: never know what's coming to seems like every week a 171 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: different person in this offense is getting off. Now, I'll 172 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: ask you this post game, but for those that didn't hear, 173 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: who's the first person you embraced after that touch? Now 174 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: we see the flex celebration, we saw when you went 175 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: to that siline, who's the first person you embraced? 176 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 3: Man? 177 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 4: I think I mean even in the end zone, Zach 178 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,239 Speaker 4: was the first person to sprint over and and uh 179 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 4: and give me my my flowers a little bit. So 180 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 4: it's cool, man, just to have him in the tight 181 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 4: end room and I got to learn from and see 182 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 4: him excited for me to score. It just kind of 183 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 4: shows you what kind of what kind of person, what 184 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 4: kind of player he is, And it was a really 185 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 4: cool moment. And then of course Johnny ran over to 186 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 4: celebrate with me, So it was cool knowing that you 187 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 4: got those guys back and the love that they have 188 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 4: for for me, and so it was a cool moment. 189 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, when you first got in here and you were 190 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: excited about the opportunity to learn from Zach Ertz. So 191 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: you can put it into words, man, what have you 192 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: learned from Zach Er It's a guy that has done 193 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: so many great things in this league. What are those 194 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: things that you take from him and you think about 195 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: every day while you're on the field. 196 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think just how to go about 197 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 3: your business in the NFL. 198 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 4: He's such a guy. I mean twelve years, twelve year 199 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 4: in the NFL. I mean he's played in the NFL 200 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 4: longer than I've played football. 201 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 3: Man. 202 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 2: Wow, So it's crazy to think about it. 203 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 4: I think, I don't know the math, but like seriously, 204 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 4: like he's been there, he's done it. So I think 205 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 4: just seeing how he operates, seeing how he breaks down film, 206 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 4: seeing how he operates at practice, how he prepares, like 207 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 4: how he gets warmed up, asking what he does in 208 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 4: the offseason, like when we get breaks, like how he operates, 209 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 4: and how he keeps his body in shape, because I 210 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 4: mean he's getting up there in. 211 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 3: Age a little bit. Yeah, and his body is still 212 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 3: in great shape. 213 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 4: And it's cool to see just just learning how to 214 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 4: be an NFL player and go about your business. 215 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 1: So and I'm sure it makes it a little easier 216 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: having to sit and wait while you watch a guy 217 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: like that play that you've been watching your whole life. 218 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: However you said it, you've been waiting a long time 219 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: for that moment. Man, how did you stay locked in 220 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: and stay focused and keep you know, any negative thoughts 221 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: out of your head while you're waiting, Because I mean 222 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: this is week seven now. 223 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. 224 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 4: It's tough going from college and being the guy and 225 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 4: getting every like push comes to shove, like we want 226 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 4: to get you the ball, and coming into a new 227 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 4: environment with Zach with John like really good, really good 228 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 4: tight ends, and I mean it's it's also like we 229 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 4: got Terry, we got all these lives, Like, man, how 230 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 4: who am I to say I need the ball when 231 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 4: we got dudes on the team. So, I mean, just 232 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 4: being able to put your head down and work. I 233 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 4: mean I kind of just went back to my walk 234 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 4: on mindset at K State, like being able to just 235 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 4: stay patient, prove what you can do, earn that trust, 236 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 4: and continue to be ready for that when that opportunity comes. 237 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 4: So I mean just staying down and just trusting who 238 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 4: I am as a player and what I do at 239 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 4: practice every day and show what kind of business that 240 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 4: I'm here for. So yeah, just stay and patient, keep 241 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 4: my head down working, and then just eventually hoping that 242 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 4: it'll happen. 243 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: And when people watch this offense, man, the word special 244 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: gets brought up a lot. It feels like we're watching 245 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: something special going on right now. Now we know you're rookie, 246 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: this is your first stint at this However, can you 247 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: talk to that and does it feel special to you 248 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: right now? 249 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 2: You're in the locker room, you're in these meetings. Does 250 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: something just feel a little different about this team? 251 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean, you feel it with 252 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 4: each other. We got such a such good relationships within 253 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 4: our offense unit and even with the team in general, 254 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 4: so I would definitely feel like it's special. We got 255 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 4: talent everywhere, we got great coaches, great game plans every week, 256 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 4: and obviously we're we're doing really well. 257 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 3: So I mean it's it feels very special. 258 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 4: For sure, But I mean we're just continue to focus 259 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 4: on what we do because I mean Cliff put up 260 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 4: a graphic in our meeting today, thirtieth best offense in 261 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 4: the NFL, Like preseason, that's what they said about us. 262 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 4: So it's like these are what people think about us, 263 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 4: Like we just got to keep doing us like they 264 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 4: never thought that we would do what we do to 265 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 4: this point. Let's just continue to prove I'm wrong and 266 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 4: focus on what we're doing. So, I mean, that's just 267 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 4: what we're going to continue to do. 268 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: I love that message, man, and we hope to see 269 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: you guys do that this Sunday at home again against 270 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears. Then before I let you go, what 271 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: can fans expect to see from our burgundy and gold 272 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball when taking on the 273 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: Chicago Bears. 274 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, just come out firing. 275 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 4: Obviously there's a lot of hype or whatever with the 276 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 4: one and two picks, but we're just going to continue 277 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 4: to do what we do, compete, put on for the 278 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 4: best fans in the country, and just continue to attack 279 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 4: and show what we can do. 280 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 2: Well. 281 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: Ben, we appreciate your time, man. I'm glad the fiance 282 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: is coming out here to. 283 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 2: Hear to support you. 284 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure she'll bring more good luck and maybe we'll 285 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: see you when that end zone again, and maybe, just 286 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: maybe you'll get some free Taylor Swift tickets. Now you 287 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 1: know it's all the abuzz down. Ben, appreciate your talk. 288 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: Command this family. This is our next man up. A 289 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: rookie tight end, Ben, senate man. 290 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: Appreciate you, brother, Appreciate you, sir. 291 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: Now command this family. For our next man up, we 292 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: had to bring on a legend. His brother right here, 293 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: four time Pro Bowl to play ten seasons in the 294 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: NFL and has one of the best guycoed commercials I've 295 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 1: ever ever seen. 296 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 6: What come we get in Washington, Legend Brian and rock Folk. 297 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 5: Brian, how you doing, brother, I'm good man, glad to 298 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 5: glad to be here. 299 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Man, I'm so happy to have you here. Man, 300 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: you are a legend. Everybody knows who you are. Man, 301 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: and so we have the on the show just talk 302 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: about your time in Washington and really reminisced because it's 303 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 1: so great to see all y'all legends come back into 304 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: the fold as recently and you know, be a part 305 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: of this squad. So you know, we want to show 306 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: you up. So we're going to start from the beginning 307 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: your rookie year. Right, let's start at the draft. Matter 308 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: of fact, man, did you know you were going to Washington? 309 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: What were you thinking when you got that call seeing 310 00:12:58,520 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: you were being drafted too? 311 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean during that time, you got to remember, 312 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 7: you know, we're all just young kids, you know at 313 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 7: the time, and you don't know which team's gonna you know, 314 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 7: fall in love with the draft. 315 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 5: You you know. 316 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 7: Washington was kind of on the radar, but it was 317 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 7: so many other teams in play, and you know, long 318 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 7: story short, when I took a visit there, took a 319 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 7: visit to an aspurg where the facility was at, and man, 320 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 7: it's just the whole tradition, everything that comes along with 321 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 7: it just reminded me from my upbringings, you know, coming 322 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 7: from the University of Texas and we big on tradition. 323 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 7: That's what Washington really represented. And I was excited. I 324 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 7: was definitely hoping they would call my name. And you know, 325 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 7: it's a few other teams I was worried about, but 326 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 7: man kind of fell into the right place. And long 327 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 7: story short, man, I had a tremendous time there, a 328 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 7: great career, and I contribute that to a lot of 329 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 7: we had a lot of hardships though, but you know, 330 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,119 Speaker 7: it's still still some great times. 331 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 5: I had in washed it for sure. 332 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: Man, that rookie year, there was no hardship about what 333 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: you did your rookie year. Eleven sacks as a rookie. 334 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: Now that you're on the back end right now, don't 335 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: you look back at that rookie year. What sticks out 336 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: to you most about that first season here in Washington Just. 337 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 5: The unknown, you know. I mean people got to remember too. 338 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 7: I was a true defensive end, you know, coming out, 339 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 7: and when my rookie year, I had to literally transition 340 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 7: to a whole different position, the linebacker at the time, 341 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 7: Sam Becker. I was doing so many different things I 342 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 7: have never done in football in my entire life. 343 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 5: So it was a huge transition, you know. 344 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 7: But I was up for the challenge and to still 345 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 7: go out there to perform the best of my abilities, 346 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 7: and yeah I had some mistakes here and there, but 347 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 7: just to still go out there and garner the respect 348 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 7: for my teammates from all we had a very very 349 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 7: veteran group, and get the respect from those guys. 350 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 5: Come in there playing entirely new position. 351 00:14:58,320 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 7: And then I got my feet wet when I was 352 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 7: a for the rush only on third downs. Man, it 353 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 7: was dream contrue just to put on that burgany and 354 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 7: gold and go out there and represent Washington for sure. 355 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: Was there a little reluctancy when you first heard you 356 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: were going to have to change your position and get 357 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: into the NFL. So you know a lot of guys, man, 358 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: they want to play what they play. They don't want 359 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: to be to change. Was there any reluctancy? 360 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, that question. I hated it. I'm not going to 361 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 5: sugarcoat it. I hated it. 362 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 7: You know, I really wanted to just do what I 363 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 7: do best and then rush every down. You know, that's 364 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 7: where I was best effective at. You know, it was 365 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 7: all these calls and playing sambacker. This is stuff. This 366 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 7: is you know, a totally different language to me. But 367 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 7: again I was up for the challenge. I had great 368 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 7: coach and get me prepared and ready to go week one, 369 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 7: and man it was because it wasn't just the three 370 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 7: to four backer. We were still a four to three. 371 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 7: I was actually off the ball, so it was completely different. 372 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 7: But again I was up for the challenge. I loved 373 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 7: every minute of it and go out and still make 374 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 7: an impact and do the best of my abilities, and man, 375 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 7: it was just a dream and true. 376 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: Like I said, crazy to think you put up numbers 377 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: like that in a position that you've never played before, 378 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: the position you're not familiar with. But again, you got 379 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: eleven sacks that rookie year, So you rookie class was 380 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: stacked defensively. Man, you have some of the best defensive players, 381 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: maybe probably the best rookie class of defenders in. 382 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 5: That first round. 383 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: So I got to ask you, man, do you think 384 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: you should have got Defensive Rookie of the Year, Because I. 385 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 6: Know Brian Cushion got it. 386 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: But then I remember there was like a revote, right 387 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: and you were a part of that as well. Clayton Matthews, Man, 388 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: should you have gotten Defensive Rookie of the Year. 389 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 7: I definitely was a finalist, I believe, But no, I 390 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 7: think Cushion had a tremendous pushing and Brian Cushing had 391 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 7: a tremendous rookie year. I mean, you look at those 392 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 7: numbers and you know everything. 393 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 5: I don't. 394 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 7: I don't really care about all the speculation things of 395 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 7: that nature. I think he was rightfully deserved that award, 396 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 7: and he still wanted even when we did a revote 397 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 7: so man, that's my brother, man, Brian Cutson. 398 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 5: We're still boys. 399 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 7: And you know he deserved it rightfully, so and I 400 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 7: was just glad to even go out there and even 401 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 7: give them or run for the run for his money. 402 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 5: But yeah, still go out there. 403 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 7: Man. We had some tremendous players, defensive players, and I 404 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 7: was glad to be a part of it and be 405 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 7: one of them. 406 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 6: And after your rookie year, you come into your second year. 407 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: Now you've mastered this new position as it feels right, 408 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: You have the numbers, you have the name for yourself. 409 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: What was the hardest part about transitioning from being a 410 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: rookie to just. 411 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 5: The pro in the NFL. 412 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 7: Well, now, it's the consistency, right, you know, that's the 413 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 7: biggest thing where the transition. Now you're not just a 414 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 7: spark plug or you're not just a rookie coming in. 415 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 7: That's that's the unknown. Now everybody's able as a full 416 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 7: year on your watching film, your your tendencies, the things 417 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 7: you do good, the things you do bad, you know. 418 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 7: So that was a big, big transition for me. And 419 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 7: that's why you see a lot of second year, third 420 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 7: year players, they tend to kind of have a transition 421 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 7: period where the numbers decline or things of that nature. 422 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 7: So that's what always telling a lot of young guys. 423 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 7: You know, you got to be able to change the 424 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 7: game up, you got to learn new things, and you know, 425 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 7: it's where you can continue to have that consistency because 426 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 7: the NFL is not for long man, and they will continue. 427 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 7: You have to be great, consistently good to be great, 428 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 7: and that's something I had to learn very early. 429 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: You started your career off, how you kept being consistently 430 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: great until maybe you're four or five. You have a 431 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: care your pectorial, which is crazy because we're to have 432 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: a guy in Jonathan Allen, it's going through the same 433 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 1: exact thing early in the season tearing his peck. Yeah, 434 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: back then talk to us about that because I think, 435 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: you know what, we see a lot about guys getting injured, 436 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: but I don't think really understand the mental toll it takes, 437 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: especially when you're already. 438 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 6: Deep into your career. Keep talking about what dealing with 439 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 6: that injury. 440 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: Was like, cause I think that was like game two 441 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 1: of the week, two of the season when we're out, 442 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: and can you just talk about what that recovery was 443 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: like in dealing with that injury. 444 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, it was, Man, that was probably one of my 445 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 7: biggest regrets. Obviously you can't really control injuries. Probably one 446 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 7: of my biggest regrets in the NFL and my NFL 447 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 7: career because that really derailed my Washington tenure because of 448 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 7: those Pictorian muscles, you know. So Jonathan Allen in a 449 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 7: similar situation, my advice, man, work extremely hard and rehabbing 450 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 7: and getting back, but you know, we're workout ways. 451 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 5: I was. 452 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 7: That was my strength, was being overpowering linement, you know, 453 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,719 Speaker 7: and using my speed to my advantage. But man, I 454 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 7: just I wish I could go back in time. I 455 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 7: would have laid off the weighting room so much because 456 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 7: I was just killing it with tearing my muscles at 457 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 7: the same time, not even realizing that because I've never 458 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 7: been hurt before, right, So yeah, just man, huge, getting rehabilitation, 459 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 7: get right, do more stretching, do more flexibility. That's something 460 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 7: I had to really learn throughout that process, and that 461 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 7: probably would have changed a lot of things if I 462 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 7: would have stayed on top of it or not. I've 463 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 7: been just trying to lift five hundred pounds all the time. 464 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 7: You know. 465 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 6: Well, I mean I'm sure you're doing that as well, 466 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 6: because you've got eyes on you, right. You have young guys. 467 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: Coming in at this point that are looking at you 468 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: and saying, Okay, this is the standard for what the 469 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: NFL star defensive player is. And we have a guy 470 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: in Ryan Kerrigan. He's a coach now, but he was 471 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: somebody that looked up to you at one point. He 472 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: was a rookie when you were in that locker room 473 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: talk about Ryan Kerrigan and what you remember from Bex. 474 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: I think it's so crazy the fact that now he's 475 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: a coach after so much here for Washington. 476 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, rkay, Man, he was man, oh man, we had 477 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 7: we had some great times together. We had some great 478 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 7: years together. Man, he's such a silentist. I'm talking about 479 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 7: his play speaks very loudly, man, just because Brian actually 480 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 7: coming from Purdue went through that same transition where he 481 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 7: was strictly a defensive end and they have to learn 482 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 7: the position on the fly in our three four defense 483 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 7: and this is all different lingo than him as well. 484 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 7: So literally is dais y'all what he was going through 485 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 7: that I've already experienced. 486 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 5: So all I tried to. 487 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 7: Do was just be a good example for him. 488 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 5: And man, he had a phenomenal career. 489 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 6: Man. 490 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 7: I mean, I think he's what the all time leading 491 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 7: sack guy in Washington and all types of records, and man, 492 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 7: me and Ryan had a great tandem, and I really 493 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 7: loved being a teammate of his because he worked extremely 494 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 7: hard as well, and me and him always had more 495 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 7: of like a great friendship, great great camaraderie. But we 496 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 7: always had like a friendly competition battle within ourselves without 497 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 7: being spoken in existence. But we always wanted to make 498 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 7: sure that we had other issues around the team. But 499 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 7: the outside backers is something that this team is organization. 500 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 7: Never really didn't want to have to worry about it, 501 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 7: and that's something we took a lot of pride. 502 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: We talked about that friendly competition. I got to imagine 503 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: certain particular memories coming to mind, right, Like you said, 504 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: y'all didn't verbalize it, However, I'm sure there was sounds 505 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: on that field. We all saw a particular quarterback and 506 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: y'all were like, okay, we I got to get to 507 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: him most. I gotta told, do you guys have any 508 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: like do you have any stories like that where you 509 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: and Ryan were competing on the field but at the 510 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: same time making your defense better. 511 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 5: No, we were, Man, what I tell you, it's so funny. 512 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 5: Me and Ryan was so food come and collected and 513 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 5: like we weren't. 514 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 7: We weren't the rowdiest, loudiest people on the defense, to 515 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 7: be honest with you. We were very just cheering, you know, 516 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 7: and we knew when to pick our spots. As far 517 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 7: as you know, quarterbacks, particular quarterbacks. We never really talked 518 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 7: about particular quarterbacks. We were always just trying to get 519 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 7: whoever down, whether that's a rookie of backup or the 520 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 7: best quarterback in the league. So yeah, we literally approached 521 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 7: each and one thing I respected about Ryan. We approached 522 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 7: the game and we treated it with respect each and 523 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 7: every week, regardless of who was doing good or was 524 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 7: doing bad. It's something we took a lot of pride, 525 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 7: and hopefully the younger guys are people, or the whole 526 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 7: team can look at that and kind of like, you know, 527 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 7: learn from it and kind of just you know, hopefully 528 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 7: they can get us over that hum because we didn't 529 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 7: win a lot of games, but at the same time, 530 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 7: we wanted to make sure that, you know, we're moving 531 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 7: in the right direction. 532 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 1: And I don't know if it was the commercial or 533 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: just the way you played. But a rack po ended 534 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: up being synonymous with sack for a very long. 535 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 6: Time in this NFL. 536 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: Man, So I have to ask you who was your 537 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: favorite quarterback to get your hands on, who is your 538 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 1: favorite quarterback to sack during your playing dates. 539 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 5: Man, I'm gonna be honest with you. I've always told 540 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 5: this guy. 541 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 7: I told this, but growing up, you know, it's always 542 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,959 Speaker 7: you don't want to have that all factor when you're playing, 543 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 7: you know, but you can't help it. When you were 544 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 7: a young guy, and when I was able to sack 545 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 7: believe it or not, Brett fav that was somebody I 546 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 7: was like, Wow, I can't believe I'm in the NFL, 547 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 7: you know, because it's just you've been watching these type 548 00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 7: of guys for so long, you know, and you were 549 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 7: you were a kid, and when these legends are playing 550 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 7: out there and you see ray Lewis doing his defensive dance, 551 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 7: you know, his trademark, and now you're actually playing with 552 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 7: the big boys. So my first welcome to the NFL 553 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 7: moment when I was able to sack him, and it 554 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 7: really showed me like, Okay, man, you worked all this time, 555 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 7: you put in all this work. This effort and look 556 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 7: where you're at today, you're sacking one of the best 557 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:33,479 Speaker 7: in the game. So that was probably my my odd moment. 558 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: You know, for me, how many people can say they 559 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: did that right, that's a very very big odd moment. 560 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: So that makes me think, who was the toughest quarterback 561 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 1: you had to face? Who's one of those guys that 562 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: like So we talked to only Fletcher about this a lot. 563 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: To those guys just when you know you got to 564 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: play on this, the week's just a little different because 565 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: it's a tougher preparation. Who was that one quarterback for 566 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: you where you were like, man, this is a tough 567 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: guy to face every time I see him on the field. 568 00:24:55,800 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 7: Man prime, Mike Vick, Mike Vick, and this prime was underreal. 569 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 7: You know, we had some other quarterbacks that did that 570 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 7: was always a good challenge. But man, anytime we see 571 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 7: Michael Vick rolling in his prime, especially with all the 572 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 7: adversity he went through and he was on a mission 573 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 7: and now we're in the same division, Uh yeah, he was. 574 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 7: He was a nightmare to try and get down, especially 575 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 7: when he was rolling. 576 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 5: Man. 577 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 7: So that's definitely somebody. And he's another one that we 578 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 7: have a tremendous amount of respect for one another. And 579 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 7: he was another one that you know, like I said, 580 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 7: he was just a night man to deal with. 581 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: And these young defensive guys, like I think back then 582 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: Michael Vick was very much showing anomaly, right like you 583 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: weren't seeing that. 584 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 6: Type of today. That's all you see. 585 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 1: So you see watching maybe there's some kids watching it 586 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: are trying to be NFL, trying to be the next 587 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: bet bo who what advice would you give them to 588 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: slow down these mobile, athletic, free quarterbacks that could very 589 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: well play running back a receiver, but decided the play court. 590 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 7: Relentless man being relentless. And at the same time, the 591 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 7: biggest advice that I had to learn early on too, 592 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 7: we just cannot run right up the field and pass them, 593 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 7: because once they get a flash of of any type 594 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 7: of pressure, they're gone. They're gone right up that right 595 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 7: up through that be gap, and that they're off of 596 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 7: the races for another first down, off for a huge yard. 597 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 7: And so my thing was to always come back to 598 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 7: the level of the quarterback. Don't run past the guys 599 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 7: thinking the guys are gonna run the loop and get 600 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 7: a sack. Literally if you run past the quarterback, just 601 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 7: retrace your steps and hopefully just control that be gap 602 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 7: as well, because you got the big guys are getting 603 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 7: double teams and stuff in the middle. Man, those be 604 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 7: gaps if you're run wide, they're wide open for these 605 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 7: fast guys like Lamar Lamar Jackson and Kylin Murray and 606 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 7: you name it. You know, even we got one of 607 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 7: our own now, Jami Daniels. So it's that that that 608 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 7: is a tremendous task to go again. 609 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 5: So just make sure you retrace. 610 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 1: Your steps and stay active, Brian, that is a task 611 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: our team has had to deal with all seasons. Is 612 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: like every week we are facing a mobile quarterback. So 613 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: I know you've been locked in. I know you've been 614 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: watching with the Burgundy and Gold are doing it now, man, 615 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: talk about what you're seeing. We'll start with the defense first, 616 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: because we got dolls in linebacker, Bobby Wagner, Frankie Louis. 617 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: I mean, the whole defense got some dolls on it. 618 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: Have you enjoyed watching this new look Washington team? 619 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 5: Oh? 620 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 7: Absolutely, man, I'm I tell every I tell every time. Sorry, 621 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 7: my phone's going on, but I tell every time. Like 622 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 7: I wish this was I wish I got drafted in 623 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 7: this area you got. You guys are rolling, man, So yeah, 624 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 7: I kind of have a little little envious to that. 625 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 7: But but but all honesty, Man, this this organization is 626 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 7: this team fans, they deserve this. You know, they've been 627 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 7: through a lot, you know, through mediocre teams, bad teams, 628 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 7: some of my good teams, whatever the case may be. 629 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 7: But this team has has the chance to be somewhat special, 630 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 7: to move direct, move in the right direction. And from 631 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 7: what I've seen so far, Man, this team has a chance. 632 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 7: Especially this this NFC East is it's pretty open, and 633 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 7: you guys are control in that as well. So I'm 634 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 7: extremely excited for the future of this team moving forward 635 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 7: for sure. 636 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: Brian, you mentioned this fan base, Man, an incredible, incredible 637 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: fan base. 638 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 6: I mension it is to every legion that comes. 639 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 1: It's so interesting to me that you guys played for 640 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: multiple teams, but Washing. 641 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 5: It always ends up being home. Why. 642 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 1: I mean, outside of being drafted here of course and 643 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: having you know your best part of your career here. 644 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 1: Talk about Washington makes you say, you know what, this 645 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: is going to be home for me, even though you 646 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: have played for other teams. 647 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 7: Man, the fans, the city, the city of the city 648 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 7: is just amazing. 649 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 5: Man, the fans. That's that's the honest to god truth. 650 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 5: I can. 651 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 7: I can come in right now, go through the airport, 652 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 7: and it's like I never left. Fans just love the 653 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 7: players that played hard. They love the I mean, yeah, 654 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 7: they'll get on us when we played terrible or whatever 655 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 7: the case may be at the time. But man, they 656 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 7: will respect guys and show you nothing but love for 657 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 7: the remainder of your life, for your career or wherever. 658 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 5: For the guys that just play. 659 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 7: The hard and gave it everything they can and did 660 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 7: the best they can on that field. And I was 661 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 7: fortunate to receive that same respect from the fans. And 662 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 7: that's why I've always tried to show them love, because 663 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 7: this is the reason why we do it right. 664 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 3: You know. 665 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 7: And uh, we always want to win and when you 666 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 7: know that last man standing and win the super Bowl. 667 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 7: But one thing about those fans, they're always going to 668 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 7: show like I said, I'm gonna save myself say it again, 669 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 7: They're just gonna show love to the players that it 670 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 7: really means something to them. And they're gonna go out 671 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 7: there whether you win, lose, or draw, they're gonna give 672 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 7: you every sweat, ounce of blood, tear you name it 673 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 7: and go out there and try. It's one of the 674 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 7: best of their ability. So yeah, for my answer would 675 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 7: be definitely the fans for sure. 676 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 6: And Brian, you definitely left it all out there on 677 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 6: that field. 678 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: Man, before I let you go, give me your favorite 679 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: Washington memory while you were playing here, since you've retired, 680 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: whatever that memory is, what is your favorite memory involving 681 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: the Burning. 682 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 5: Man. 683 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 7: That's a great question, I will I will honestly say 684 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 7: I remember, oh, man, that's a great question. 685 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 5: Probably that. 686 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 7: Two thy twelve season, that RG three year that was 687 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 7: That was insane. That was insane, we felt I felt 688 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 7: like that will probably and I don't want it. 689 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 5: It's not a particular memory, but just being down. 690 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 7: I forgot what our record was at the time, but 691 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 7: it was had a losing record and then able to 692 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 7: win so many games in a row in the city 693 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 7: and team and the chemistry, everything was going just insane. 694 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 7: I will say that was probably one of our fondest 695 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 7: memories just being a part of that as well. So 696 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 7: that was that was great and I was hurt, and 697 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 7: I was hurt at the time, but just to see 698 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 7: because I dealt with the peck remember, just to see 699 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 7: what this city's been through, what this team has been through, 700 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 7: and for the team to rally and get behind one 701 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 7: another and come back, even starting off the season with 702 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 7: three and six or whatever the case may be, and 703 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 7: win the remaining to clinch the NFC East and get 704 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 7: a home playoff game. 705 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 5: That was tremendous. 706 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: I think that speaks to the type of player you 707 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: are because your memory is a time when you weren't 708 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: even on that field, but you were just watching your 709 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: team do something special. Even though you weren't able to contribute, 710 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: you still enjoyed watching that success. Mat So, Brian, thank 711 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: you for sharing that, and you have decided to have 712 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: even more fun off the field now that you were tired. 713 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's anybody that has a cooler 714 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: job than you. 715 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 6: Man, you make. 716 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: Cupcakes with a former team, that you have your own businessman, 717 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: talk to us all about that. 718 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so we were, Man, I wanted to 719 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 7: kind of you know, we're on that back nine your career. 720 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 7: You know, football, you can't play it forever, so I 721 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 7: just wanted to get some entrepreneurship under my belt, so 722 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 7: you know, it's a cupcake business down in Nashville and 723 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 7: reached out. They were huge fans at the time, and 724 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 7: I wanted to come in and just you picked their 725 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 7: brain a little bit. And they didn't have any locases 726 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 7: in Austin, and that's where I currently live, and just man, 727 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 7: I just wanted to get it done myself. Michael Griffin, 728 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 7: we called them, We made some meetings and man, we 729 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 7: put one in Austin and it literally took off like wildfire. 730 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 7: And man, I couldn't I couldn't ask for any type 731 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 7: of better situation to kind of learn something from scratch, 732 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 7: but didn make it such a successful business, and that's 733 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 7: what we were able to do. And man, I contribute 734 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 7: everything to Gg's Cupcakes because it helped me learn the 735 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 7: franchise game. That's something I wanted to do and now 736 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 7: able to do a lot of other different things just 737 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 7: literally based off of that one business. So definitely have 738 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 7: a lot of fun at the time. And I was 739 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 7: still playing at the time, baking and decorating cupcakes and 740 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 7: still going out there trying to sack the quarterback. 741 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 5: So it was pretty fun. 742 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 6: Did you ever see yourself becoming a baking enthusiast like this. 743 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,239 Speaker 1: I can't imagine when you was playing at ut Bro, 744 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: you was making cupcakes in your door. 745 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 5: Man, No, not at all. 746 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 7: But in today's day and as man and everything that 747 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 7: goes viral and tiktokings and whatever the case may be, 748 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 7: it was such a catch twenty two to find a 749 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 7: big two hundred and sixty pounds sixty four linebacker that 750 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 7: now he puts on a pink apron and bakes and 751 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 7: decorates cupcakes. You know, And that whole story itself took 752 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 7: a life of its own, and I was just I 753 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 7: was glad to be a part of that because it 754 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 7: was so much fun. 755 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: A man of many talents, an NFL player, a baker 756 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: and also as I said earlier, and active man before 757 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: you go bro. 758 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 6: The guy go commercials. Man, how does that come about? 759 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: Because I don't think we've really seen anything like what 760 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: you were doing. Like you see a lot of quarterbacks 761 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: get things, but like ender, I think you're one of one. 762 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 3: Man. 763 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you were out there killing it, Like I 764 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: remember work was you at No? 765 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 7: That was again they were just man rat code. That 766 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 7: time was just special. It's a special time, man, especially 767 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 7: when I was rolling. So yeah, they were based out 768 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 7: in the DMV area, and you know, they reached out 769 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 7: and man, I'll never forget it. 770 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 6: Man. 771 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 7: Eric Schuster used to work with them at the time 772 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 7: as well. Put the call in, we made the we 773 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 7: made the introduction, and they loved my voice. 774 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 5: They love what I brought to the table. 775 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 7: They seen you know, obviously they're big Washington fans at 776 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 7: the time, and man, we just went to California and 777 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 7: made it happen. Got to meet the whole staff to 778 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 7: put together to all the Geico. You know, cave Man, 779 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 7: I've seen the actual actors. I've seen everything. So like 780 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 7: you said, quarterbacks and the guys that score the touchdowns 781 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 7: are the ones that get those type of gigs. And 782 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 7: for them to reach out to me, that was really 783 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 7: really special. You know, even my kids today, My kids 784 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 7: are grown as hell, but they loved showing off to 785 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 7: their friends at school of all the different commercials and 786 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 7: things I've done. So yeah, it's kudos to them for 787 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 7: making the work. 788 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:00,479 Speaker 5: For sure. 789 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun doing it. And I'll 790 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,439 Speaker 1: tell you what a rack foul means. Sack plays rent 791 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: free in my head NFL Sunday Man, what a legend. 792 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 6: Man, Thank you so much. For taking the time to 793 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 6: join us and talk to us. 794 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 7: Man. 795 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 6: Let me tell you the command is family. 796 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: They love you and they miss you, man, and hopefully 797 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: we have you, you know, in studio at a game pretty soon. 798 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 7: Be Yeah, we'll make it happen. Man, I appreciate you 799 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 7: off of having Definitely we'll make that happen. 800 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:23,919 Speaker 5: Sure. 801 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 6: I appreciate that command is family. 802 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: Our Next Man Up A true legend, one of the 803 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: best sack artists to ever play the game. 804 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 5: Brian A. Rack Pope. Thank you brother, all right, thank you. 805 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 6: Appreciate that command is Sammy. 806 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: We hope you've enjoyed this episode of Next Man but 807 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: if you haven't caught the other episodes, you can check 808 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: those out on the Commander's YouTube page or catch those 809 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: wherever you listen to your audio podcast. This is Next 810 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: Man Up. I'm your host, Brian Covie Jr. Until next Friday. 811 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 3: I'm out.