WEBVTT - Flip The Tables! Oscars; Retail Blackout; A Brown Boost First

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking right here. This is not loud.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you have to really talk into it.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So what about this, I'm getting it high

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<v Speaker 1>right there. I heard the dial.

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<v Speaker 2>You just listened. The first time you got me asked,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was four times we asked.

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<v Speaker 1>But then he was like, oh yeah, he sounds good.

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<v Speaker 1>But then like on my side, I can see that

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<v Speaker 1>my volume is too high.

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<v Speaker 2>On Women's History month, listen to women.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you my volume is too high. When you

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<v Speaker 1>when you listen to the recording, it's gonna be bad.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna sound you don't not listen to a woman

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<v Speaker 2>on March third. You know we're three days in.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't start already.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm starting. I'm starting.

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<v Speaker 3>I won't make you all jealous.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's beautiful. She looks out and use the ocean.

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<v Speaker 2>You probably do too, Chris.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, yeah, she's not too far. I mean, I can't walk,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's out there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's out there. Ella, Welcome to another episode of Brown Ambition.

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<v Speaker 2>Be a faan. How are y'all doing?

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<v Speaker 4>Wooo?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing all right. I feel like March just like

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<v Speaker 3>snuck up like it was it was just January and

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<v Speaker 3>then now all of a sudden. You know, February always

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<v Speaker 3>lies by because it's short, but then March is like

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<v Speaker 3>just here out of nowhere, and I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Not right, is it? Is it going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>stressful month for you? I love March.

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<v Speaker 3>I just travel a lot in March because it's like

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<v Speaker 3>the last few weeks of like active legislative sessions and differ.

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<v Speaker 3>So when I'm doing that work, I have to like

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<v Speaker 3>hurry up and squeeze in a testimony at some hearings

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<v Speaker 3>here or this.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you get nervous? I mean, testifying in front of

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<v Speaker 2>mini congresses is not something that people do like once

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<v Speaker 2>in their life, let alone as part of their job

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<v Speaker 2>all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you know, it's funny. I actually have a video

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<v Speaker 3>on my phone is so embarrassing of the first testimony

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<v Speaker 3>I ever provided. It was virtual during COVID, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was shaking, like you can literally see me shaking. And

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<v Speaker 3>then at the end when I turn off my video

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<v Speaker 3>to record myself, I was like trying to breathe because

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<v Speaker 3>I was so That's how nervous I was. It was

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<v Speaker 3>the first time I had ever testified. I didn't know,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, what to expect or how I was gonna

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<v Speaker 3>go but by now I've done it probably dozens of times,

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm like, oh, okay, yeah, another one of these.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait till we can all vote for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, no, we're not doing that.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>I always when I was growing up, I always thought like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe I'll do local politics, And now that I work

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<v Speaker 3>in local politics or like adjacent to it, man, it's

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<v Speaker 3>like when you see how the sausage gets made, right

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<v Speaker 3>is that the phrase? Yeah, you like know the inner workings,

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<v Speaker 3>And it's so fin petty, like everybody is petty LaBelle.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so annoying. You cannot deal with a person who's

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<v Speaker 3>not having ulterior motives or some other motivation or some

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<v Speaker 3>selfish thing or some other agenda. It's like, bro, are

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<v Speaker 3>we here for what we're here for? But the issue

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<v Speaker 3>is at hand or always some type of high school drama.

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<v Speaker 3>This person didn't vote for my last bill, so I

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<v Speaker 3>don't care if I like this bill, I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 3>vote for it just out of fight. And it's like

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of stuff is so incessant. I'm like, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't be involved in this mess.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, good to know that the lower levels are just

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<v Speaker 2>like the White House. I'm sorry, sorry, I'm not here

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<v Speaker 2>to provide any top of hope. No, we're getting some hope.

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<v Speaker 2>The hope is that you can relate that back to

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<v Speaker 2>us so that we don't stop the good work that

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<v Speaker 2>we're doing here. And we understand and they get they

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<v Speaker 2>do it for like no pay too. That's why you

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<v Speaker 2>got to be a gajillionaire to afford to be a

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<v Speaker 2>congress person or a lawmaker.

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<v Speaker 3>That is the sad truth. But at the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the day, they do have a lot of power and

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<v Speaker 3>it is on us to hold them accountable. Yes, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we vote for them. Both elections are the most important

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<v Speaker 3>and at the end of the day, their email addresses

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<v Speaker 3>and their Twitter accounts are there.

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<v Speaker 2>She is there, she is she found the brown ambition inside.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, always, it's just that it's not going to be

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<v Speaker 3>mess but you know somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>Else, Yes, absolutely, yeah, I mean While on a brighter note,

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<v Speaker 2>this morning on YouTube, I did get to watch the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning of the Oscars. Well, I missed my girl Cynthia

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<v Speaker 2>and Ariana Grande did like the prettiest opening, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the most exquisite. Have y'all watched it yet?

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<v Speaker 1>I missed it. I did watch the Oscars, but I

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<v Speaker 1>came in a little late.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, you really did. You gotta go back and

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<v Speaker 2>watch it.

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<v Speaker 3>Watch it.

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<v Speaker 4>They killed it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean Cynthia of course obviously did the did her thing,

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<v Speaker 3>but Ariana too. I mean they just it was beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean like the Internet ruined it. They like spoiled

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<v Speaker 2>it for me. By the time I watched it, I

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<v Speaker 2>knew what was coming. But if I had been caught

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<v Speaker 2>off guard and Cynthia came out singing home from the Whiz,

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<v Speaker 2>I would have.

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<v Speaker 1>Been kr I was gonna say, Queen Latifa did a

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<v Speaker 1>great tribute to the Whiz for the Quincy Jones I heard.

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<v Speaker 2>She did move on down the Road. I haven't watched

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<v Speaker 2>that yet.

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<v Speaker 3>That's awesome little shorts from it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad Queen still out here, just in all the categories.

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<v Speaker 2>Yan Ellie, our girls, Zoey South. I can claim her

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<v Speaker 2>as my girl because you know, I'm raising Dominican boys.

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<v Speaker 2>But her speech was so well, how did you feel?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so glad that she said that, And her passion

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<v Speaker 3>is just so palpable, like when she's Meeks, it's so

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<v Speaker 3>she's fired up. It's like you can tell. It's so authentic,

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<v Speaker 3>right and she I mean, it's been a long time

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<v Speaker 3>coming for her.

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<v Speaker 2>She's so talented way back.

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<v Speaker 3>But also I mean major films that a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>technical awards were granted for were given out for, but

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<v Speaker 3>never like her acting like Avatar. I mean obviously people

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<v Speaker 3>know from Avatar, but like this was just I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>she put everything into it. The fact that she spoke

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<v Speaker 3>in Spanish and said that and made the you know,

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<v Speaker 3>ow to her grandparents and to the immigrant struggle. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>so glad she said all the things that she said

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<v Speaker 3>because we were all so here for it. And she's, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>the first Dominican actress to receive an Oscar Award, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's true for any award of cross, like any producer

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<v Speaker 3>and other awards that which is sad but also just

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<v Speaker 3>incredible that she had that ability to go up there

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<v Speaker 3>and represent in that way. But yeah, it was beautiful,

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<v Speaker 3>beautiful moment. We love her, We stand zone.

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<v Speaker 1>She was the best thing about that movie About a

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<v Speaker 1>Million Birds. She carried that movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Another highlight back to Wicked. Paul Tazewell, the costume designers,

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<v Speaker 2>first black man to ever win in that and.

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<v Speaker 3>He said it when he won his award.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, let him know.

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<v Speaker 3>Let him know.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you gotta let him know because people need to

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<v Speaker 2>be reminded how rare we are in the building, let

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<v Speaker 2>alone on the stage, and the.

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<v Speaker 3>Fact that we're trying to roll back the EI left

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<v Speaker 3>and right and now we're finally getting some firsts for

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<v Speaker 3>black people up on this stage. Right like after Latina

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<v Speaker 3>was like Zo, we like Paul Tasle's work, Like, why

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<v Speaker 3>are we just now getting these firsts and people are

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<v Speaker 3>still not putting two and two together that we need

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<v Speaker 3>these DEI programs to allow for this. We're still making

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<v Speaker 3>history of the first black blank. That's embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's twenty twenty five and he did an amazing job.

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<v Speaker 1>But the costume design and Wicked was a bubble dress

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<v Speaker 1>you were It felt to me it felt better than

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<v Speaker 1>I love the live musical. But I feel they did

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<v Speaker 1>a justice the world they created with that. It was

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<v Speaker 1>he did a great job with the cast and design.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but you noticed also like how he has just

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<v Speaker 3>leveled up in his career. I first found out about

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<v Speaker 3>his work when I watched In the Heights. It was

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<v Speaker 3>like two thousand and nine, eighty nine. I watched it

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<v Speaker 3>with Cordon Blue and Jordan Sparks cast I saw that phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, so he did the costume design for the play?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, did he also do it for the film, don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if he did it for the film.

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<v Speaker 3>I know for sure he did Hamilton as.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, because that would be the connection between him and

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<v Speaker 2>John Chu, the director of In the Heights the musical.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but back then I mean In the Heights and Hamilton,

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<v Speaker 3>and of course Wicked, I mean I and he'd obviously

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<v Speaker 3>whiz live. I feel like he has been just slowly

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<v Speaker 3>elevating to this point where it's like it was a given.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just amount of time.

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<v Speaker 2>It was nice to see it not go to like

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<v Speaker 2>fucking like Renaissance queens and kings, like no offense to

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<v Speaker 2>the Europeans, but like, god damn you, you're Elizabethan. Corsets

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff is all very impressive. But did you see

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<v Speaker 2>the bubble dress? I'm sorry, did you see the munchkin Land?

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<v Speaker 2>Like the way that every character was so unique? And

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<v Speaker 2>I know because I had the coloring book and I'm like, ooh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do yeah, I'm named literally, this is what

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<v Speaker 2>I do when I'm stressed sometimes the wicked. My mommy

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<v Speaker 2>got me this for Christmas, I'm not even ashamed, And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm just that was amazing. Did you guys do

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<v Speaker 2>boycott Friday? By the way, I did too.

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<v Speaker 4>It was.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot easier for me than I thought it was

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<v Speaker 3>going to be, I gotta say, because it was a Friday,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I just feel like I wasn't necessarily like

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<v Speaker 3>I was able to just like enjoy my Friday. I

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't really online that much, which I think helped me.

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<v Speaker 3>But if it's a start of the week, if it's

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<v Speaker 3>a Sunday, or if it's like a Monday, I find it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm ordering stuff more. I'm like like in my beginning

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<v Speaker 3>of the week mode, where like I'm looking ahead and

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<v Speaker 3>planning ahead. But like the fact it was a I

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<v Speaker 3>was whining down, I was not doing work. It just

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<v Speaker 3>for me. I felt like it was going to be

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<v Speaker 3>so difficult and it ended up being much easier.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait to see the quarterly results from Target,

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<v Speaker 2>which are I was just thinking, I was like, when's

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<v Speaker 2>the quarter over?

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<v Speaker 1>So much we should see it is a quarter march.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to see because they got to tell they

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<v Speaker 2>got to tell the shareholders. Shareholders are already suing Target

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<v Speaker 2>right because they pissed at Apple. I haven't gone to

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<v Speaker 2>Target since well since before they announced it because I

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<v Speaker 2>just hadn't. I just happened to not have. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>been great financially truly, and and I do think the

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<v Speaker 2>seductive marketing, the way the store is set up, like psychologically,

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<v Speaker 2>to give you these like little dopamine hits based on

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<v Speaker 2>like the products they sell, it really is all seductive.

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<v Speaker 2>And to break ourselves of that that sort of like

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<v Speaker 2>spell that they had us under, I feel like there's

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<v Speaker 2>nothing but good from that.

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<v Speaker 3>Target has had suburban moms in a choke hold for.

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<v Speaker 2>Years listen and I and I was one, but no longer.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I woken up at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>Barbie like America. Frea just came to me and gave

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<v Speaker 2>me a pep talk, and I'm like, you're right, I

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<v Speaker 2>hate Target. Powerful shoulders, yes, but I can't. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>front though, y'all. Okay, so what I happen. I did

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<v Speaker 2>end up at the mall on Friday. But here's what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>What happened was my good friend and of all the days.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, in the evening, I'm recuperating. I get an

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<v Speaker 2>emergency call my friend Jess. She needs a gown for

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<v Speaker 2>an event, Jack and Jill. Jack and Jill is an

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<v Speaker 2>iconic nonprofit that you know does all kinds of increble work.

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<v Speaker 2>You can talk about the very blackly black but black. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>she's going to the gala. The dress doesn't fit. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we need to go to Nordstrum. She wants to know

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<v Speaker 2>if I want to ride with her. I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 2>her in a while, y'all. I miss my friend Jess.

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<v Speaker 2>So of course I say yes, let's go on the

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<v Speaker 2>way there. I'm like, holy what where are you taking me?

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<v Speaker 2>We're not supposed to be doing this. She's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, but the event is tomorrow. I gotta go.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was like, well, I'm not spending any money.

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<v Speaker 2>But I went with her and watched her. And technically

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<v Speaker 2>she didn't spend money either, because she just exchanged she

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<v Speaker 2>had already bought. It was just a little even exchange.

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<v Speaker 2>But wouldn't you know, the checkout girl recognized me. She's like,

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<v Speaker 2>are you on Instagram? Money?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 2>No no no no no no no no no no

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<v Speaker 2>no no no. I carry a pocket NDA. Don't you

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<v Speaker 2>know that? So I was like, you need to sign

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<v Speaker 2>this or I'm just kidding. It's just a little like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a little electronic signature right here, Thank you very.

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<v Speaker 3>Much, put her phone and recorded no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no no. She was so sweet, but she yeah, she

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<v Speaker 2>was so sweet. I was like, please, don't tell anybody else.

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<v Speaker 2>But I didn't spend any money. I did not, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was yeah, so that was my.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody really spent any money. I would just run in

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<v Speaker 3>an errand. And it happened to the mall, Okay, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I support this and all the staff are women of color,

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<v Speaker 2>as we typically do hold up the companies that are

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<v Speaker 2>run by a billionaire white guys. So and they were

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<v Speaker 2>so sweet. It was actually kind of fun being at

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't been to the mall on a Friday night.

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<v Speaker 2>When's the last time y'all went to the mall on

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<v Speaker 2>a Friday?

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<v Speaker 5>Period?

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<v Speaker 3>Was the mall period? I'm in there a long time period?

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<v Speaker 2>But was it like crowded?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I feel like everybody was assuming that because it

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<v Speaker 3>was black on Friday, or everybody was gonna do the

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<v Speaker 3>boycott and it wasn't gonna be anybody in stores. But

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<v Speaker 3>then there was a post being like and that doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>really always work out that way because the people who

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<v Speaker 3>actively are against this stuff double down and show up

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<v Speaker 3>to shop. So is that like what was the vibe

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<v Speaker 3>in person?

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<v Speaker 4>Was it?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>What were the numbers like?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, at nord Stream, it was kind of popping. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean there was probably like a dozen people shopping, which

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<v Speaker 2>it was eight pm. I mean it was close to

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<v Speaker 2>closing time. I don't know. But it's also I think

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<v Speaker 2>but there were like mothers of the bride, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>brothers of the groom. They were getting their dresses for

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<v Speaker 2>their springtime wedding. So I didn't have fault them. But

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<v Speaker 2>also it's I live in Westchester. It's not a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of us out here anyway. It's pretty white, honestly them all.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. The people at the perfume counters. I

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<v Speaker 2>could tell they were all like really wanting people, like

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<v Speaker 2>please come buy something, you pot some pants, you want

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<v Speaker 2>some crystal, you want like a thousand dollars Chanel bag. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you. But it was nice to walk around with

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<v Speaker 2>a friend. We did see We saw one group of

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<v Speaker 2>young girls, maybe like teenage girls, like four of them

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<v Speaker 2>in a pack kind of like hanging out and that

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<v Speaker 2>was cute. But it's just no, I didn't have friends,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was called no, maybe I didn't to my

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<v Speaker 2>childhood trauma. Yeah, it took me right back. No, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have friends.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they want to be friends with you now.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't think I didn't peak too soon. I made all

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<v Speaker 2>my friends in college. I moved a lot. It was

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<v Speaker 2>hard to make friends, you know. Just whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>But if we're chatting, we should mention the sixtieth anniversary

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<v Speaker 3>of Ployee Sunday, which is coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, thank you early March.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, I just I keep thinking it was

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<v Speaker 3>like maybe twenty fifteen. Yeah, twenty fifteen was the fiftieth,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five sixtieth that makes sense mathematically, twenty fifteen that

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<v Speaker 3>picture of Obama, you know, Michelle and Barack holding hands

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<v Speaker 3>with John Lewis and crossing the bridge and just like

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<v Speaker 3>obviously Amelia Boytman was there too, and their daughter Sasha

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<v Speaker 3>and Melia and just like that whole line. I just

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<v Speaker 3>have that picture in my mind, that photo of them

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<v Speaker 3>holding hands crossing that bridge fifty years later, and the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that Miliebourne was still alive at that time. She

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<v Speaker 3>died later that year.

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<v Speaker 2>But like John Lewis too, and John Lewis too, let

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<v Speaker 2>me just google. Let's see if Trump is on the

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<v Speaker 2>Edmund Pettist Bridge at all. He ain't going nowhere near

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<v Speaker 2>see you gonna Yeah, nope, nothing, couldn't couldn't, couldn't see

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<v Speaker 2>it interesting. But let's we will pull up that picture

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<v Speaker 2>of the Obamas.

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<v Speaker 3>So beautiful, y'all, and the fact that all of the

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<v Speaker 3>important people that needed to be there were there, and

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<v Speaker 3>it was fifty years and that, and it's just sad

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<v Speaker 3>now to think that just ten years later we have

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<v Speaker 3>gone backwards.

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<v Speaker 2>It feel like in some ways. In some ways, but

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<v Speaker 2>I do want to call out, you know, ten years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>what wasn't around was this news organization called the Nineteenth

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<v Speaker 2>which I've had Aaron Haynes, one of the they called them,

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<v Speaker 2>says the founding mothers, the founding mother of Aaron Haynes

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<v Speaker 2>something on the show a couple of times. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to post the link to this article that I just

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<v Speaker 2>thought was beautiful, a beautiful way to honor the women

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<v Speaker 2>behind the movement as well. So the Nineteenth News dot

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<v Speaker 2>org is where you can find it. They have an

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<v Speaker 2>article called flowers for the unsung Black women of Bloody Sunday,

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<v Speaker 2>black women fed, protected, and housed the activists who traveled

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<v Speaker 2>to Selma, Alabama in March nineteen sixty five to demonstrate

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<v Speaker 2>for voting rights. Here are their stories. And that was

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<v Speaker 2>written by threejournalist Alexis Frey, Eden Turner, Sabrine Da Wood

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<v Speaker 2>Da Wood. Sorry mispronounce that And this article just came

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<v Speaker 2>out when we're recording this show. But it's it's a

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful It reminds me like why I got into journalism

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<v Speaker 2>is to tell stories like this and some of the

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<v Speaker 2>archival photos they shared beautiful.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so important, it's so important to keep telling the

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<v Speaker 3>history because obviously some people are fighting to not include

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<v Speaker 3>it at all. So we have to tell it. Eight

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<v Speaker 3>men that part retell it and retell it and tell

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<v Speaker 3>it again. Yeah, but you know the beautiful thing that

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<v Speaker 3>came from even though there's so much bloodshed and heartbreak

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<v Speaker 3>on Bloody Sunday, which was early nineteen sixty five. Later

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<v Speaker 3>that year, the civil rights movement had a huge win

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<v Speaker 3>with the Voting Rights Act of nineteen sixty five. So

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<v Speaker 3>while we're here to celebrate something that obviously had a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of stain, and it was really hard and negative.

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<v Speaker 3>Later in I think September August, the Secember of that

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<v Speaker 3>same year was the Voting Rights Tack, which probably most

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<v Speaker 3>people would would say it's probably the crown jewel, biggest

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<v Speaker 3>win of the Civil Rights Act, of the Civil rights

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<v Speaker 3>like era, but really fighting for everybody to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to get in particular every black person in America to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to get egal rights to vote. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't mean to be a Debbie downer, but just

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<v Speaker 3>thinking about a couple of years ago when I first

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<v Speaker 3>started doing this legislative work with financial literacy being in schools,

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<v Speaker 3>there were like three hundred different bills, if not more,

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<v Speaker 3>that we're trying to introduce, like rollbacks, like pulling back

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<v Speaker 3>like basically not allowing people to register early, not allowing

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<v Speaker 3>people to vote, to do voter registration on the day of,

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<v Speaker 3>taking away like the fact that if you have if

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have a photo ID, then you can't vote,

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<v Speaker 3>Like just all kinds of shady shit that it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>this is literally what the Voting Rights Act was.

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<v Speaker 2>History rhymes, history rhymes truly, My.

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<v Speaker 3>Goodness, it's so frustrating to see so that when I

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<v Speaker 3>say like, oh, we're it feels like oftentimes like we're

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<v Speaker 3>moving backwards. Like not to be negative, but it's just

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<v Speaker 3>so frustrating that the not just fight the good fight,

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<v Speaker 3>get a big win, but then keep fighting, keep fighting

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<v Speaker 3>that same fight while fighting new fights. It's like rock

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<v Speaker 3>come on. It's so frustrating, especially with legislative wins like that.

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<v Speaker 3>You would think, Okay, that's the law, that's it, but

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<v Speaker 3>amending it.

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<v Speaker 2>Ro v Wade sounded like it was forever as a

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<v Speaker 2>little girl growing up, and I do not little girl.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't really think about it then, but yeah, like

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<v Speaker 2>you think those kinds of things are just etched and stone.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually find it very I find it very and

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<v Speaker 2>and you can. It's not about not being negative too.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like being real. We got to call a spata

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<v Speaker 2>s babe. This is the times we're in. People need

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<v Speaker 2>to understand the severity of the situation. And I also

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<v Speaker 2>think it's like I said before on the show, our

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<v Speaker 2>generation we were really taught like they did it. You're

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<v Speaker 2>this post racial you know Gen X to millennials and

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<v Speaker 2>Gen Z and like you know, you're the next generation.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna get to celebrate the fruits of our labor,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know that's not the case. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>that we need to quickly understand that the fight continues

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<v Speaker 2>and we have never I'm you know, I think the

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<v Speaker 2>policies that we were hard fought and won back in

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<v Speaker 2>the sixties and seventies, like now we're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 2>re like go to battle again to protect them and

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<v Speaker 2>in some ways after this challenge, when they survive, because

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<v Speaker 2>I fully believe that they will and that we can

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<v Speaker 2>in some shape or form way shape shape or form

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<v Speaker 2>or fashion fight back against this, that they'll be even

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<v Speaker 2>stronger because we have. They have been tested, battle tested,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And I do feel like, yeah, so I

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<v Speaker 2>I feel not so much like I'm I'm reading a

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<v Speaker 2>story about people that are so far removed, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>more like I'm want I'm reading and I'm like studying, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>so this is how they organized and this is what worked.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know the fact that the Voting Rights Act happened.

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<v Speaker 2>You think about the March on Washington being that like

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<v Speaker 2>pivotal moment, but that was bloody Sunday was two years later,

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<v Speaker 2>and I bet the people who marched on Washington thought, well,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't we do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't we just deal with this?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, back again, but it's back again in this brutality,

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<v Speaker 2>and that led to the Voting Rights Act. And we

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<v Speaker 2>I love Stacy Abrams podcast Assembly Required and really listening

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<v Speaker 2>to her as like a voice of comfort in times

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<v Speaker 2>like this. Tasty comes back. Come back to Brannon Bish.

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<v Speaker 2>We miss you. She's so great, and her whole you know,

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<v Speaker 2>mission to for voter against voter suppression in Georgia where

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<v Speaker 2>she tried and failed to become the first woman and

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<v Speaker 2>first African American woman governor, was really eye opening and like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just glad you brought that up you in Ellie,

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<v Speaker 2>because I feel like those basic rights that we can

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<v Speaker 2>take for granted are so flimsy in reality.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye, stay vigilant.

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<v Speaker 1>It just shows how important it is to vote right

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<v Speaker 1>and why it's so significant that we make sure we

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<v Speaker 1>turn out for all elections, the small ones and big ones,

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<v Speaker 1>because if it wasn't important, they wouldn't be trying to

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<v Speaker 1>find all these ways to reduce it and take away

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<v Speaker 1>the right and make it as difficult as possible. Like

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<v Speaker 1>why why is voting day election day not a national holiday?

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<v Speaker 1>Why doesn't everyone have that day off of work, Like

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<v Speaker 1>if it wasn't so important, they wouldn't be trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make it so difficult. So I think it's just even

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<v Speaker 1>more encouragement to make sure you're on it, know what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on locally, and turn out for those things, because

0:21:25.960 --> 0:21:27.560
<v Speaker 1>like both of you were saying before, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>barely one shows up for those elections, so your vote

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<v Speaker 1>really matters in those. You have so much more weight

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<v Speaker 1>when you show up to even the small ones that

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<v Speaker 1>can make an impact on your local community.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, And some of them are coming up real soon.

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<v Speaker 3>So y'all need to check check your local elections and

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<v Speaker 3>see what's happening and tune in and show up because

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<v Speaker 3>this is the only way. Like, if they know that

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<v Speaker 3>you're not paying attention, that's when they pounce, right, So

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<v Speaker 3>we have to be real, real vigilant.

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<v Speaker 2>What else is happening? Oh, you know this morning I

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<v Speaker 2>had I was kind of like super sad this morning

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<v Speaker 2>and I had to journal about it and I couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>figure out why. One. I think because I'm sleep deprived.

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<v Speaker 2>Last night was rough with with the kids were just

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<v Speaker 2>like not having it. We ended up sleeping like survivors

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<v Speaker 2>of a catastrophe in the same bed, just like me

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<v Speaker 2>and my husband clinging to one side. Anyway, So sleepy

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<v Speaker 2>being sleep, sleepy, being sleepy sleep. Oh god, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>well mourning for you. I'm still on it at two

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<v Speaker 2>pm Eastern time. Yeah, anyway, I had to. So I

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<v Speaker 2>have been in this group therapy that I've been doing

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<v Speaker 2>every Thursday since last May. It's called dialectical behavioral therapy

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<v Speaker 2>if you'll ever heard of it. It's like the sister

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<v Speaker 2>to CBT, which is like the typical cognitive behavioral therapy

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<v Speaker 2>where you try to change the thoughts that are causing

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<v Speaker 2>you distress. But DBT and DBT was something that was

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<v Speaker 2>new to me, and I also group therapy was like

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<v Speaker 2>new to me in general. Yeah where you at and

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<v Speaker 2>I was. I always thought of it as like you

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<v Speaker 2>sort of see like alcoholics anonymous they're in a group together,

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<v Speaker 2>but then you don't know each other. It's anonymous, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so you don't but it's in a group. And anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>doctor Joy from Therapy for Black Girls opened me up

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<v Speaker 2>to that idea that you could be in a group

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<v Speaker 2>and actually find that useful speaking with other people. And

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<v Speaker 2>so anyway, long story short, I got into this weekly

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<v Speaker 2>therapy DBT, but it's meant to be temporary. It's meant

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<v Speaker 2>to be like, I think, four months at a stint,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I had renewed it, so I went through

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<v Speaker 2>like eight months and I graduate March thirteenth, and so

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<v Speaker 2>my yeah, my graduation.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sad.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna miss it, you know, genuinely, because it really

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<v Speaker 2>gave one. There's like people in the group of a

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<v Speaker 2>small group is like six of us, but it really

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<v Speaker 2>it just humanizes people who are struggling with certain you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just challenges. I mean, the world is really freaking hard

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<v Speaker 2>to cope with. And when you're someone who feels things

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<v Speaker 2>really deeply at a time like this, pray for your

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<v Speaker 2>impaths in life. And I just really found the tools useful.

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<v Speaker 2>And so if you're someone out there who's really struggling

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<v Speaker 2>with like really big feelings and it's causing you like anxiety, depression,

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<v Speaker 2>it's interfering with your life, it's interfering with your relationships.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't recommend DBT group therapy enough, honestly. So, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's widespread, so you could find, you know, a group

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<v Speaker 2>that probably meets near you that the person who runs

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<v Speaker 2>the group told me that I need to get my

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<v Speaker 2>together and get my get my one on one individual

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<v Speaker 2>therapists set up. I've been dragging my feet because my

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<v Speaker 2>therapist who I work with for like four or five years,

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<v Speaker 2>she went back to work at a hospital. She's working

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<v Speaker 2>with recovering mothers postpartum, which is amazing. I tried out

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<v Speaker 2>another therapist. It didn't work. I wasn't a fan like

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<v Speaker 2>it was weren't bang. I don't know. So I've been

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<v Speaker 2>therapists therapist lists for two months now, which is the

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<v Speaker 2>longest I've gone in a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>I got well.

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<v Speaker 2>I've always had DBT, so they've been my support.

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<v Speaker 3>But I feel like you need like a therapist be dating.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, it's it's I haven't been in this position

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<v Speaker 2>in a while, like where you've had to shop for

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<v Speaker 2>your therapist. So I have a consultation on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, we take a step.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I mean it is like dating trying to find

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<v Speaker 1>a therapist, right, you don't know, you like that personality,

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<v Speaker 1>You you got stuff that you can talk about. They

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<v Speaker 1>can relate and connect to what you're talking about in

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<v Speaker 1>your life. It's it's work.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not you know, I'm just like the last

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<v Speaker 2>guy he was a white dude. I did not enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I can. I don't. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want it to be like that because he actually

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<v Speaker 2>wrote a book that I found at the library and

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<v Speaker 2>I found did the book really fascinating? And I found

0:26:01.880 --> 0:26:03.840
<v Speaker 2>him interesting and he lived locally to me, so I

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<v Speaker 2>went and found him and I was like, I'm a fan.

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<v Speaker 2>Beg my therapist. He's like, WHOA three people have read

0:26:10.359 --> 0:26:14.680
<v Speaker 2>this book, and like anyway, but yeah, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>it was I thought, and this is the thing, like you,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, Chris, do you mind saying if your

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<v Speaker 2>therapist is.

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<v Speaker 1>A guy or woman, it's a woman. My current therapist, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>how is that for you?

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<v Speaker 2>She a woman of color, white lady.

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<v Speaker 1>She is a white woman who was recommended to me

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<v Speaker 1>originally was a man. But my therapist passed away.

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<v Speaker 4>He was.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know, because you know obviously that gona tell

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<v Speaker 1>you everything about their own lives. But I could tell

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<v Speaker 1>he was dealing with something, and I remember he had

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<v Speaker 1>missed a couple of appointments and then he sent me

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<v Speaker 1>this this long message about like how he's in hospice care.

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<v Speaker 1>So what ended up happening was he connected me with

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<v Speaker 1>the other therapist who was in his office, So that's

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<v Speaker 1>how I ended up with her. But she's been great

0:26:57.119 --> 0:26:59.359
<v Speaker 1>cause she was written. My original recommendation from someone was her.

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<v Speaker 1>She was fool so she recommended me to him and

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<v Speaker 1>then he balanced me back. But that's how I ended

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<v Speaker 1>up with that. But she's she's amazing. She's she's also

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<v Speaker 1>a podcaster, so she understands this life that I'm living Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>really great. I've been with it for probably what I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know, two three years something.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that, though, talkid that gives me hope. Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 2>not just because he was a dude. I just kept

0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:22.080
<v Speaker 2>looking at him and being like, well, no, I just

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<v Speaker 2>don't feel like being my full authentic self here and

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<v Speaker 2>it probably has to do with me, but anyway, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>on that journey.

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<v Speaker 3>The cause of it doesn't matter. It's the existence of.

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<v Speaker 2>It that matters. Yeah, And he totally understood that, and

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<v Speaker 2>like we kind of like touched on it because I

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<v Speaker 2>was like after the election, I was like, you got

0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:39.880
<v Speaker 2>to tell me who you voted for because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think I can talk to you. I know it shouldn't matter,

0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:45.520
<v Speaker 2>but it matters. He's like, he's like, okay, yes I

0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:48.119
<v Speaker 2>voted for Kamala and I was like, okay, but it

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:51.520
<v Speaker 2>wasn't enough. So I'm on that journey, y'an, Ellie. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you have any have you ever been in therapy or yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I was doing therapy for like six years right after undergrad.

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<v Speaker 3>It was rough transitioning back home home from being like

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<v Speaker 3>independent and then being back under my parents' roof. And

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<v Speaker 3>they had all these expectations and I was like, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>I got multiple degrees. Now, don't tell me what this.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, so I had Yeah I did that about

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<v Speaker 3>six years of therapy, but I haven't had a therapist

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<v Speaker 3>in a few years now.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Just write a lot and just go to the gym.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my therapy.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>What I never really grasped as a concept is that

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<v Speaker 2>therapy is not meant to be permanent. Yeah, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>meant to be for a long term thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Though, because I was trying to do it for like

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<v Speaker 3>two or three years, I ended up doing it for

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<v Speaker 3>six years. And I do not regret that. I think

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:33.879
<v Speaker 3>I really needed it to go into my thirties like

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<v Speaker 3>I was not. I was not capable of doing that

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<v Speaker 3>on my own without like really having a place to

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<v Speaker 3>go release and just honestly getting so much advice about

0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:45.280
<v Speaker 3>how poorly I was doing at communicating. That was my

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<v Speaker 3>biggest thing that I got from therapy, was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I would I don't know, like dumb shit too. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I remember that I was planning this girl's trip and

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<v Speaker 3>I had a friend and she was like going through

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<v Speaker 3>something and she loves the job. She was going through

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of stuff, and so I was planning this

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<v Speaker 3>girl strip I just felt so bad. I didn't want

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:04.160
<v Speaker 3>to like tell her, Hey, I know you just lost

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:07.480
<v Speaker 3>your job, but like we're plying this girl's trip, you know,

0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 3>if you get swinging like and so I just didn't

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:11.959
<v Speaker 3>mention it to her. And then she found out through

0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:14.000
<v Speaker 3>another friend that I was planning this girl's trip, and

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:15.920
<v Speaker 3>then she wasn't invited. And it's like, dude, if that

0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 3>was happening to me right now, I would literally just

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:19.400
<v Speaker 3>message her and be like I do not want to

0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 3>be insensitive at all, but I want you to feel

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 3>welcome and invited. So if you can swing it calm,

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 3>you're definitely invited. We want you there, but if not,

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<v Speaker 3>I totally understand as well. Because I know what's going

0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:30.760
<v Speaker 3>on with you personally, no pressureable like that is. All

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:32.840
<v Speaker 3>you have to do is just communicate, and I wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>doing that. You avoid, Yeah, so I think therapy helped me. Yeah,

0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 3>and something that we don't teach too, Like I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like when you're in school, or even when you're in college,

0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:47.360
<v Speaker 3>no matter enough, nobody teaches you how to communicate clearly

0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 3>and effectively. So that was a huge takeaway from me

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 3>for therapy.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like it was me.

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<v Speaker 3>The root of it was me. I wasn't communicating well,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm them seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a measure. There's like because you know, let's

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<v Speaker 1>do a good job getting personal finance into schools. Imagine

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<v Speaker 1>if there's like a semester of like therapy, like group

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<v Speaker 1>therapy for real life skills. That's the stuff you need,

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<v Speaker 1>right because a bunch of unlike adults who can't function

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<v Speaker 1>because we don't know how to do this stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>we're out of struggling and scrambling, that'd be great to

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:19.720
<v Speaker 1>at least get a little something under a belt before you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there actually is some DBT curriculum in schools, Like

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<v Speaker 2>there is a movement to get yeah, to teach young kids.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what's crazy is like all of the lessons.

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<v Speaker 2>When I say big feelings, that's commonly you'll hear that

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<v Speaker 2>phrase among parents, and like parents, psychologists or kids psychologists

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:37.400
<v Speaker 2>for everyon want to call them about how to help

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 2>kids manage their big feelings. And that's all DBT is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's literally for adults, and I too need to learn

0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:47.600
<v Speaker 2>how to take some deep breaths and learn how to

0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 2>cope with big uncomfortable. It's just that the feelings and

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<v Speaker 2>the stakes are so much higher when you have grown

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<v Speaker 2>up problems. Yes, you know, I can't have a melt

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<v Speaker 2>down in the middle of target. I you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it looks different for me and a bigger and so yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm learning so much and it's making me a better

0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 2>mom and I'm I'm learning. I'm like, oh, I was

0:31:10.320 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 2>never I really was never taught. I was like, you

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:16.600
<v Speaker 2>had to I'm gonna say, please, don't sing, please don't

0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:19.240
<v Speaker 2>sing frozen, don't do it, don't do it, don't concealed,

0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:21.160
<v Speaker 2>don't feel I didn't sing it. I just said it

0:31:21.880 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 2>conceal the feelings. And it was really hard and to

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<v Speaker 2>be strong and to like and nothing ever bothers her

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:32.880
<v Speaker 2>and like that kind of thing, and that was a

0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 2>good tool. We learned that it was a good tool

0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:38.719
<v Speaker 2>for them, but not so much for now. And anyway,

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:41.040
<v Speaker 2>it makes me excited because I'm like, oh man, I'm

0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 2>giving this kid the best shot. It's not just about

0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:47.200
<v Speaker 2>giving him money, and you know, yeah, loving household is

0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:50.400
<v Speaker 2>important too, but like really preparing them to be humans

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:53.959
<v Speaker 2>in this kind of world. I just am so proud

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:58.760
<v Speaker 2>that I'm gonna hopefully it'll stick, hopefully he'll take it

0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 2>with him. Like that's the.

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<v Speaker 3>Proudest thing that you can feel as an adult who

0:32:03.440 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 3>raised children. Whether like for me it's I'm in an

0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 3>antique capacity, I'm like the favorite thea, but it's really

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 3>like showing them what emotional regulation looks like and sounds

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 3>like and feels like and being a role model for

0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 3>them in that way, because the worst people who have

0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 3>been the most toxic in my life have been people

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 3>who just did not have any emotional regulation skills, Like

0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:26.720
<v Speaker 3>they just could not cope with emotions, they didn't know how,

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:29.920
<v Speaker 3>they take it all out on other people or just

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:32.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, let it fester until they exploded. And that's

0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:35.720
<v Speaker 3>just horrible to be around. And also I'm sure it

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:37.560
<v Speaker 3>feels horrible to be that person too, so I'm sure

0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 3>they want to relieve from it. They you know, we

0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:41.880
<v Speaker 3>just don't. We don't have a way. And I don't

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 3>know when that transition happens. I was gonna say earlier,

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:46.320
<v Speaker 3>like at some point like you're like, oh, you're young,

0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 3>you're young, you could get away with this or that,

0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:49.480
<v Speaker 3>and then all of a sudden, one day you wake

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 3>up and Nope, you're not young anymore. And now anything

0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:54.680
<v Speaker 3>you do is like the expectation is that you're a

0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:56.080
<v Speaker 3>grown ass adult and you're supposed to have that you

0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 3>figured out?

0:32:57.080 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah when?

0:32:58.160 --> 0:32:58.480
<v Speaker 4>Like when?

0:32:58.520 --> 0:32:58.840
<v Speaker 5>And how?

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:00.680
<v Speaker 3>I just yeah, so much pressure?

0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:00.960
<v Speaker 4>So I do.

0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 3>I love that you're doing that with your kids, Mandy,

0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 3>because that's like probably the most important thing you could

0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:07.520
<v Speaker 3>give them. Money comes and goes. You know, success is

0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:11.040
<v Speaker 3>defined differently, it's all subjective, but that emotion regulation and

0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:13.120
<v Speaker 3>the ability to cope with what you're dealing with emotion

0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:16.000
<v Speaker 3>inside of yourself and treating and just being a good

0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:18.720
<v Speaker 3>human being who can manage that is literally the best

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:19.560
<v Speaker 3>gift you can give them.

0:33:20.120 --> 0:33:23.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's because life is nothing but a serious of relationships, right,

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:25.520
<v Speaker 1>and you got to know how to manage that and

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:28.239
<v Speaker 1>relate to people and deal with conflict constantly. It never

0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:31.960
<v Speaker 1>stops happening, and setting their kids up.

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:38.320
<v Speaker 3>And trying so hard and so dobly important.

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 2>I truly feel the weight of responsibility to create a

0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 2>Women's History Month, especially to create boys who are not toxic.

0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:50.280
<v Speaker 2>And I've said that before, but I genuinely like it's

0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:52.640
<v Speaker 2>so much I try to put just like they have

0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:55.240
<v Speaker 2>to love themselves and be strong and be proud to

0:33:55.280 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 2>be Dominican, but also know they have a black from

0:33:57.080 --> 0:34:00.400
<v Speaker 2>the South mama, and also like understand like my culture

0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 2>and their culture and speak Spanish but you know, also

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 2>be able to speak. And it's just as a lot,

0:34:05.360 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 2>a lot. I'm doing my best, so thank you for

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:10.799
<v Speaker 2>giving me. It's a it's a big responsiblit, but hey,

0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 2>I had these kids, so that's what I signed up for,

0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:14.000
<v Speaker 2>is how I feel. That's right.

0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:16.239
<v Speaker 3>Well, the mom was out there listening. We know it's

0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:18.640
<v Speaker 3>a lot, but that's what you signed up, what.

0:34:18.760 --> 0:34:23.120
<v Speaker 2>We signed up for, literally creating the future.

0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:24.239
<v Speaker 3>That's right.

0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:28.399
<v Speaker 2>Well, Chris, what's your update over there? How's things going?

0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:31.360
<v Speaker 1>No, it's going well. I gotta say I'm trying to

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:33.520
<v Speaker 1>be healthier. Now, I've been in San Francisco, so I'm

0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:35.239
<v Speaker 1>doing a ton of walking. I didn't bring my car

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:38.040
<v Speaker 1>with me. I'm living that you took over to the gym.

0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:38.759
<v Speaker 3>Hard life.

0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:41.239
<v Speaker 1>She went to the gym. I've been walking. I was

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:44.840
<v Speaker 1>walking like eighteen thousand steps past two days. I remember

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:47.200
<v Speaker 1>during the pandemic, I was the heaviest I'd ever gotten.

0:34:47.200 --> 0:34:48.680
<v Speaker 1>She didn't get to see that face. She skipped out

0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:50.640
<v Speaker 1>on all that will no way.

0:34:53.840 --> 0:35:03.439
<v Speaker 2>Picture those hybernating bears. Fifteen. Well, I had COVID plus

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:06.360
<v Speaker 2>a newborn. I can't even I'm like unrecognizable to myself.

0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:07.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm on that journey too.

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:08.000
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:13.440
<v Speaker 2>I just started the GPL gp L one injections, the

0:35:13.480 --> 0:35:17.120
<v Speaker 2>weight loss medicine, like I just started one. It's the

0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 2>megalitudegalitude that everything that you would work for me before

0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:25.840
<v Speaker 2>no longer works postpartum, two babies in I guess, and

0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:29.360
<v Speaker 2>being in my late thirties now, so I have admitted

0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:31.759
<v Speaker 2>that I needed a little extra boost, So I'll let

0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:34.040
<v Speaker 2>y'all know how that goes. I just did my first

0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 2>little injection on Saturday. So this is fresh, okay, we

0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:45.279
<v Speaker 2>very fresh for you? Well fingers crumb, but I will

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:47.320
<v Speaker 2>be walking and eating right too, not just taking that

0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:53.200
<v Speaker 2>doing the shots. Yeah, all right, Well should we take

0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:56.400
<v Speaker 2>a little break and come back with brown boost, brown break.

0:35:56.880 --> 0:35:57.360
<v Speaker 1>Let's do it?

0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:06.880
<v Speaker 2>Just do we? All right? Be right backba fams, All right,

0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:10.240
<v Speaker 2>we are back. We're gonna do brown boost brown break.

0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:13.359
<v Speaker 2>And I don't need to tell y'all what that's all about.

0:36:13.400 --> 0:36:15.560
<v Speaker 2>If we're boosting, we're happy about it. If we're breaking,

0:36:15.680 --> 0:36:17.799
<v Speaker 2>we could use less of it. Like we're done, we're

0:36:17.840 --> 0:36:21.200
<v Speaker 2>fed up. Who wants to go first? Oh?

0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:22.919
<v Speaker 3>I can go first. I mentioned a little bit about

0:36:22.960 --> 0:36:25.919
<v Speaker 3>what I'm doing this week for work, but the brown

0:36:26.000 --> 0:36:28.279
<v Speaker 3>boost for me is I am hopping on a plane

0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:30.480
<v Speaker 3>to go to Denver, Colorado, to testify and support of

0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:34.240
<v Speaker 3>a bill there that is proposing that we require financial

0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:36.160
<v Speaker 3>literacy in every public school in the state of Colorado.

0:36:36.719 --> 0:36:40.080
<v Speaker 3>And the cool thing about the Colorado specifically is that

0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:42.840
<v Speaker 3>Denver Public Schools is a really large urban district and

0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:45.360
<v Speaker 3>they've already done this. So like a lot of the

0:36:45.480 --> 0:36:47.200
<v Speaker 3>people who are like, oh, we can't do it, it's

0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:49.239
<v Speaker 3>gonna be too difficult, the scheduling, the this, the that,

0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:51.440
<v Speaker 3>and then it's like, well, actually, just take a look

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:53.759
<v Speaker 3>at Denver public schools. They've already been doing it. So

0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:55.719
<v Speaker 3>you have a model for how to do it right here.

0:36:55.800 --> 0:36:58.760
<v Speaker 3>So there's really no excuse and that has really been helpful.

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 2>Good for you, you getting miles for all this traveling.

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:02.719
<v Speaker 2>You could tease your.

0:37:02.680 --> 0:37:05.879
<v Speaker 3>Own I love my old job. I had to book

0:37:05.920 --> 0:37:06.879
<v Speaker 3>with the company.

0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:08.920
<v Speaker 2>But this is that's annoying putting it all on my car.

0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:10.600
<v Speaker 2>I think they get that now. They want you to

0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:13.640
<v Speaker 2>like get the points. Yes it's so great, but yes,

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:17.840
<v Speaker 2>also your your public advocacy and all that work is amazing.

0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:19.359
<v Speaker 3>It is all of it great.

0:37:19.680 --> 0:37:20.440
<v Speaker 1>It's incredible.

0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:24.200
<v Speaker 2>All right, Chris, I'm putting you in the hot seat

0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:25.880
<v Speaker 2>because my break is going to be a little bit longer.

0:37:26.480 --> 0:37:30.399
<v Speaker 1>Okay, well mind beah. So uh, you know it's gonna

0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:32.640
<v Speaker 1>be a boost this week. And one of the things

0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:34.040
<v Speaker 1>that kind of led me to move it up here

0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:36.200
<v Speaker 1>to San Francisco was to be in a more like

0:37:36.280 --> 0:37:38.960
<v Speaker 1>social environment. I feel like at home so isolated because

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:40.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, and like everything so far. So people are

0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:42.160
<v Speaker 1>like I might find to sit in traffic to come

0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:43.359
<v Speaker 1>hang out with you, and I'm like, I don't want

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 1>to drive an hour and a half it comes to you,

0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:48.759
<v Speaker 1>so you just don't do it like terrible. But here

0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:50.880
<v Speaker 1>everything is so much easier to get around. People end

0:37:50.960 --> 0:37:54.920
<v Speaker 1>up doing things together a lot more often. And so Berna, Berna,

0:37:54.960 --> 0:37:57.920
<v Speaker 1>and that who you've had here, Hey Berna. Yeah, she

0:37:58.200 --> 0:37:59.479
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if she wants me to talk about

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:01.640
<v Speaker 1>this mo I'm talking. But anyways, she was in a

0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:06.840
<v Speaker 1>sketch writing program and so she because Berna's hilarious somebody.

0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:08.560
<v Speaker 2>She is that makes me so happy.

0:38:08.840 --> 0:38:11.239
<v Speaker 1>Yes, the funniest people I've ever met. And so she's

0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:13.800
<v Speaker 1>in this program and at the end of this course,

0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:16.880
<v Speaker 1>they actually write these, uh, these sketches and then they

0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:21.319
<v Speaker 1>get performed by actors at a local little comedy spot here,

0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:23.440
<v Speaker 1>and so it's like down the street, went over there

0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:26.920
<v Speaker 1>and we got to meet up with her, her boyfriend,

0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:28.560
<v Speaker 1>some of her friends and I know too, I've become

0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:30.520
<v Speaker 1>friends with and we all got together and we watched

0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:32.759
<v Speaker 1>her some of her skits, and then our sketches and

0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:34.080
<v Speaker 1>some of the other sketches of the other people in

0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:36.920
<v Speaker 1>the program get performed. And it was hilarious, let me

0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:38.800
<v Speaker 1>tell you, because you know, I was nervous going in.

0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:40.319
<v Speaker 1>You know, you go, I'm going to support a friend,

0:38:40.320 --> 0:38:42.239
<v Speaker 1>but you don't know it. Yeah, you don't know what

0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:42.960
<v Speaker 1>you're getting into.

0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:43.759
<v Speaker 2>It really could.

0:38:44.560 --> 0:38:46.759
<v Speaker 1>It was so good. It was so good.

0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Murna's did she performed or she wrote the sketch?

0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, performed? Men done this. But they had this really

0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:56.360
<v Speaker 1>great group of this like improv group that was up

0:38:56.360 --> 0:38:58.160
<v Speaker 1>there that they just got the scripts that day and

0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:00.200
<v Speaker 1>like right before they got there, and they had the

0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:02.520
<v Speaker 1>scripts out obviously because they didn't memorize them, and we're

0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:04.719
<v Speaker 1>going through performing the one by one and they were

0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:07.760
<v Speaker 1>killing it. The sketches that they wrote were so hilarious

0:39:07.760 --> 0:39:10.160
<v Speaker 1>that it was Bernard had had us dying up there.

0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 1>So I was that's my boots because that was so

0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:14.839
<v Speaker 1>fun to get to support a friend. But I also

0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:17.280
<v Speaker 1>get to see their work and it'd be like amazing,

0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:19.279
<v Speaker 1>like because of course it would be amazing if bern

0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:21.520
<v Speaker 1>is doing it. But yeah, that was my boost because

0:39:21.560 --> 0:39:22.719
<v Speaker 1>I had a great time. It was It was a

0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:23.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of fun.

0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:23.839
<v Speaker 4>Love.

0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:27.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I love that you make me want to doing

0:39:27.120 --> 0:39:28.560
<v Speaker 3>the work to build your own community.

0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:31.400
<v Speaker 2>I love it and moving to where you have that

0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:35.160
<v Speaker 2>community support because yeah, I missed those days. It was

0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:37.360
<v Speaker 2>so much easier. I can still get down to the

0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:42.120
<v Speaker 2>city and see people. But yeah, it's definitely it's just easy,

0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:45.640
<v Speaker 2>easy and free, and I'm happy that you got to

0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:51.080
<v Speaker 2>be there to support her. We love you Berner the best.

0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:54.000
<v Speaker 2>I will say, Chris, I don't compliment you often, except

0:39:54.040 --> 0:39:55.680
<v Speaker 2>I did compliment your shirt. I do like it.

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 1>I was shocked. I was waiting for the inside.

0:39:57.160 --> 0:39:59.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it was the first time I noticed

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:02.080
<v Speaker 2>dudes to wear like something besides a T shirt or

0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:04.400
<v Speaker 2>like a button down. I do notice, and I'm like,

0:40:04.480 --> 0:40:07.120
<v Speaker 2>oh interesting. I'm always like plucking out little ideas for

0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:10.560
<v Speaker 2>for bay. But what was I gonna say nice about you?

0:40:11.760 --> 0:40:14.240
<v Speaker 1>Clearly mean it. You already forget like a well.

0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Rounded dude, I will say, like you do. You're doing

0:40:16.600 --> 0:40:18.560
<v Speaker 2>the work, You're like getting well rounded. You're getting the

0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:20.680
<v Speaker 2>health and lifestyle, you got the mental health aspect, and

0:40:20.840 --> 0:40:24.000
<v Speaker 2>you recognize the importance of friends and relationships and those

0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:27.359
<v Speaker 2>are not things that you know we can't like take

0:40:27.400 --> 0:40:40.880
<v Speaker 2>for granted. Just men. That's your prioritizing. I mean, and

0:40:41.000 --> 0:40:43.160
<v Speaker 2>you could just answer for answer for all of them.

0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:51.799
<v Speaker 2>It's Women's History Month. What can I say and march

0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:57.959
<v Speaker 2>just say yes, ma'am, yes, ma'am, yes, that's the energy.

0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:01.920
<v Speaker 2>I really did, your highness, I thank you because I

0:41:02.000 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 2>am so high on a pedestal. Oh god, I want

0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:11.440
<v Speaker 2>to get to my boost because this is going to

0:41:11.480 --> 0:41:13.319
<v Speaker 2>be a special one. I have a book here, can

0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:15.440
<v Speaker 2>you see it? I have my blur thing on. So

0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:19.640
<v Speaker 2>this book is called Flip the Table, speaking of activists,

0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:23.320
<v Speaker 2>Yan Elliott. No it's not here. Yeah, I'll put it

0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:26.040
<v Speaker 2>on the screen because that's so annoying. So this is

0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:30.040
<v Speaker 2>called Flip the Table, The Everyday Disruptor's Guide to finding

0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:34.000
<v Speaker 2>courage and making change. It is by Alencia Johnson, whose

0:41:34.080 --> 0:41:36.480
<v Speaker 2>name y'all may not recognize, but who has been behind

0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:41.440
<v Speaker 2>some of the you know, most consequential elections and election

0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:46.239
<v Speaker 2>campaigns of our time. I am going to roll right now,

0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:48.279
<v Speaker 2>even though you and Chris you're not gonna be able

0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 2>to hear it. I'm going to do a quick little

0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:53.239
<v Speaker 2>interview with the author, Alencia Johnson, and air that so

0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:55.759
<v Speaker 2>that y'all can hear about this book. You can't plan

0:41:55.880 --> 0:41:57.680
<v Speaker 2>when to have books like this get published, but I

0:41:57.800 --> 0:41:59.320
<v Speaker 2>just can't think of a better time because this is

0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:02.080
<v Speaker 2>like probably four years in the making, and for it

0:42:02.200 --> 0:42:04.200
<v Speaker 2>to come out right now, it's just such good timing

0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:07.600
<v Speaker 2>and she's going to be on tour. So if y'all

0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:10.399
<v Speaker 2>want to go to flipthetablesbook dot com.

0:42:11.000 --> 0:42:12.799
<v Speaker 3>I love it. I'm so excited to read this. I'm

0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:16.240
<v Speaker 3>just adding into my book list right now, Flip the Tables.

0:42:17.080 --> 0:42:19.440
<v Speaker 2>Love it, can't wait, can't wait to have her on

0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:20.880
<v Speaker 2>And you guys are going to hear a little bit

0:42:20.920 --> 0:42:23.239
<v Speaker 2>from her now and then go run out and get

0:42:23.280 --> 0:42:25.600
<v Speaker 2>the copy of her book because it is so important

0:42:25.640 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 2>to support our writers who actually get on the shelves

0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:35.320
<v Speaker 2>because they don't often look like us. All right, the

0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:38.320
<v Speaker 2>a fam. I am really excited to share this week's

0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:40.880
<v Speaker 2>Brown Boost with you. I've never done this before. This

0:42:41.040 --> 0:42:45.520
<v Speaker 2>is a brown ambition. First, my boost is here. I

0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:48.080
<v Speaker 2>brought my boost to work today and her name is

0:42:48.120 --> 0:42:51.400
<v Speaker 2>a Lindsia Johnson and she is fabulous. She has a

0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:54.680
<v Speaker 2>new book that I have been reading and deeply enjoying,

0:42:54.920 --> 0:42:57.440
<v Speaker 2>especially at a time like this. The book is called

0:42:57.719 --> 0:43:02.560
<v Speaker 2>Flip the Tables, The Everyday Disruptor's Guide to Finding Courage

0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:05.960
<v Speaker 2>and Making Change. And it's here and I need y'all

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<v Speaker 2>to go pick up your copy.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Why we were just talking a little bit about this,

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<v Speaker 2>Elencia just because it's the message that we need right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But let me tell you about my new friend, slash

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<v Speaker 2>human boost Me. Lincia Johnson is an award winning social

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<v Speaker 2>impact advisor and cultural commentator. She founded ten sixty three

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<v Speaker 2>West broad which is a media and social impact consultancy,

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<v Speaker 2>which basically means she has had her hands in many,

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<v Speaker 2>many consequential campaigns over the years, including advising the presidential

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<v Speaker 2>campaigns of Vice President Kamala Harris. Should have been President

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<v Speaker 2>Kamala Harris, I'll say President Joe Biden, Senator Elizabeth Warren. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we stand Lizzie Warren over here. Yes, I love her. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>the CFPB her baby, I'm just distraught, all right, Focus

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<v Speaker 2>Mandy and President Barack Obama. In addition to her work

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<v Speaker 2>with leading advocacy group, she's regularly seen on MSNBC, CNN, ABC,

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<v Speaker 2>She's been featured all over the media, and she's a

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<v Speaker 2>proud member of the Delta Sigma Theta. So we're already.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna lie. If I could go back and pledge,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'd be a Delta. I think I'm old

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<v Speaker 2>enough now to choose. I wasn't sure in college. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>choose when all my favorite. I mean no offense, but

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm not even I can't do it. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get in trouble. All my favorites are Delta's. Is that

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<v Speaker 2>why you're so amazing? I just something about y'all. You're

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<v Speaker 2>just I mean, I don't want to like create a monolith,

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<v Speaker 2>but just genuinely approachable, kind, good hearted, but still badass.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean. Yeah, it's about that business. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to the show, Alensia. Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 2>joining on Brown Ambition and being my boost.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you for having me and reading the book and

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<v Speaker 5>being like creating the space for me to have this conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you believe it's out in the world.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, it is my baby that came to me.

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<v Speaker 4>We were talking a little bit about the pandemic. It

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<v Speaker 4>came to me in that early pandemic haze and it

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<v Speaker 4>is finally here, which is so wild.

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<v Speaker 2>What I like about the book as you start by

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<v Speaker 2>talking about how we can be, how we need to

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<v Speaker 2>learn how to disrupt ourselves.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>In all of my career from presidential campaigns to working

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<v Speaker 4>for a planned parentheads national office, and I was constantly

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<v Speaker 4>getting the question of how do I create more impact

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<v Speaker 4>in the world and how do I have more courage

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<v Speaker 4>like you and be brave like you? And I was like, hmm,

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<v Speaker 4>I actually don't see myself as this way. I just

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<v Speaker 4>have found myself moving through the world and the way

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<v Speaker 4>that God has led me to. But I was also

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<v Speaker 4>feeling a bit stuck, like having all of these accolades

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<v Speaker 4>and all these positions, and I was like, well, then

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<v Speaker 4>why do I feel so stuck If I'm this person

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<v Speaker 4>that people are looking to for guidance and courage, but

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<v Speaker 4>me myself, I can't get out of my own way.

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<v Speaker 4>What's happening here? And who am I holding back in

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<v Speaker 4>myself and others by not really living out my dreams?

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<v Speaker 4>And then I realized that it is so connected to

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<v Speaker 4>our community and advancing our community, and so look, Mandy,

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<v Speaker 4>I had to sit with myself and really sit with

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<v Speaker 4>the things that I had been running from, the things

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<v Speaker 4>that I talked about in therapy, the things I had

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<v Speaker 4>like all the theory for I'm a virgo in four houses,

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<v Speaker 4>like I can theorize everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, nobody knows they're signed like a virgo knows their

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<v Speaker 2>sign exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>And I said, oh, Hey, girl, you got to feel

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<v Speaker 4>these things, you got to go through these things, and

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<v Speaker 4>how connected the going through was connected to me living

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<v Speaker 4>and my purpose.

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<v Speaker 5>And so it really showed me that in order for

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<v Speaker 5>us to show.

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<v Speaker 4>Up in our community is the way that we're supposed

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<v Speaker 4>to to do the thing that God has called us

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<v Speaker 4>to do in the world, We've got to actually first

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<v Speaker 4>be who were called to be. And in order to

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<v Speaker 4>get there, we got to face the mirror quite a bit,

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<v Speaker 4>and we got to, you know, acknowledge sometimes the red

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<v Speaker 4>flag is you, but also sometimes we have to figure

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<v Speaker 4>out how to answer the question. There's a whole chapter

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<v Speaker 4>in there, and I love it so much because it

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<v Speaker 4>reads me for filth, but it pushes you to answer

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<v Speaker 4>the question who are we? Unattached to our resumes and accolades,

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<v Speaker 4>Like literally, who are we?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's pretty clear, you know, as I'm writing

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<v Speaker 2>my book to my editor and I have been working

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<v Speaker 2>closely on like just making sure that I'm oozing off

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<v Speaker 2>the page, which is not hard to do because I

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<v Speaker 2>love just writing with my authentic voice. But something that

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<v Speaker 2>really is apparent to me is your faith, and your

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<v Speaker 2>faith is so grounded in this book. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>open up the book talking a little bit about your faith.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the epilogue again you acknowledge, you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus can get up and keep moving, then so can we,

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<v Speaker 2>And can you talk a little bit about Well, do

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<v Speaker 2>I want to skip to faith yet?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I want to backtrack because I'm the boss, because I

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<v Speaker 2>want to know what were those things in therapy that

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<v Speaker 2>you were battling and what do you mean you were stuck?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you mean like career wise?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>It was a combination of things, right, it was so

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<v Speaker 4>on the personal front. I was in the middle of

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<v Speaker 4>a move at the beginning of the pandemic. It was

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<v Speaker 4>right when Senator Elizabeth Warren ended her presidential campaign and

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<v Speaker 4>the beginning of this global pandemic.

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<v Speaker 5>Senator Elizabeth Warren's campaign was my last.

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<v Speaker 4>Like actual like W two job, And so I was

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<v Speaker 4>sitting there kind of fun employed, as I called it

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<v Speaker 4>that after like the Obama campaign when I was in

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<v Speaker 4>my twenties, but in your thirties it's fun?

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<v Speaker 5>Is that as fun? It's not as cute anymore?

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<v Speaker 4>Right? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So after about a few weeks of like, okay, what

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<v Speaker 5>are we doing?

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, do I want to go out of

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<v Speaker 4>my own do I want to go back and house somewhere,

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<v Speaker 4>Do I want to take this job on the Biden campaign?

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<v Speaker 4>Like what do I want to do for myself? But

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<v Speaker 4>I was also still conflicted with feeling as though I

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<v Speaker 4>had to do what everyone else measured success to be.

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<v Speaker 4>At the same time, Mandy, I was still dealing with

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<v Speaker 4>a lot in my personal life. I was I picked

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<v Speaker 4>up some weight and some unhealthy habits on a campaign,

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<v Speaker 4>I was cycling through situationships that there were some like

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<v Speaker 4>friendships I needed to really reevaluate. There was some family

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<v Speaker 4>stuff that like I was just kind of putting in

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<v Speaker 4>the back of my mind and not really realizing how

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<v Speaker 4>it was impacting me. And so all of these things

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<v Speaker 4>were just bubbling up, and I took the time and

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<v Speaker 4>that's a privilege to have the time at the beginning

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<v Speaker 4>of the pandemic, and then to start working for myself

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<v Speaker 4>to really work through those things and realizing that not

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<v Speaker 4>working through those things and those feelings is what was

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<v Speaker 4>making me feel stuck, is what was making me feel

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<v Speaker 4>like I had to chase success on other people's terms

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<v Speaker 4>when I didn't want to be on the booked in

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<v Speaker 4>busy hamp Surreel anymore. I wanted to be in a

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<v Speaker 4>position to where I work the way that I wanted to,

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<v Speaker 4>but also, you know, set myself up well financially as

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<v Speaker 4>well as most importantly, really tending to my personal life

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<v Speaker 4>in a way that I'm not even gonna say I

0:49:54.000 --> 0:49:57.040
<v Speaker 4>was ignoring. I was running from. And so that's why

0:49:57.200 --> 0:49:59.520
<v Speaker 4>I was feeling stuck. It was a combination of so

0:49:59.680 --> 0:50:04.120
<v Speaker 4>many things, and some of it really started with me

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<v Speaker 4>having to stop being so much of a people pleaser,

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<v Speaker 4>right because even when I announced my consultancy, I got

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<v Speaker 4>tons of people like, Oh, You're gonna build this big agency,

0:50:11.960 --> 0:50:13.840
<v Speaker 4>and I was like, I don't really like managing a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of people, Like I like being creative.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, that's right, the magical entrepreneur we must all become

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<v Speaker 2>when we launch our own business. Yeah, talk about that,

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<v Speaker 2>like oh are you using this?

0:50:24.800 --> 0:50:25.680
<v Speaker 5>Who are your clients?

0:50:25.719 --> 0:50:27.600
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, whoa seed funding?

0:50:27.680 --> 0:50:27.920
<v Speaker 4>You want?

0:50:27.960 --> 0:50:28.319
<v Speaker 2>A VC?

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<v Speaker 4>Like what?

0:50:31.520 --> 0:50:33.040
<v Speaker 2>I just got the domain? Like what do you want

0:50:33.040 --> 0:50:35.239
<v Speaker 2>for me? Like Alsie Lindsay Johnson dot com. You know

0:50:35.360 --> 0:50:36.680
<v Speaker 2>that's what I want for now.

0:50:37.280 --> 0:50:39.520
<v Speaker 5>I'm good with my like three or four clients, Like

0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:40.359
<v Speaker 5>we're good.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's the moment like being stuck and those places

0:50:44.960 --> 0:50:47.879
<v Speaker 4>that overlapped and you know, impacted each other.

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<v Speaker 2>It's interesting that that whole expression stuck. I hear it

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<v Speaker 2>all the time because I do a lot of work

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<v Speaker 2>with women in their careers, and that's even a phrase

0:50:55.480 --> 0:50:57.399
<v Speaker 2>I use a lot. And it's almost like, sometimes it's

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<v Speaker 2>not that you're stuck, it's that you're kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>on a conveyor belt that you don't know how to

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<v Speaker 2>get off of, and it feels like like one of

0:51:04.000 --> 0:51:06.840
<v Speaker 2>those walking runways and you're just stuck, like you may

0:51:06.920 --> 0:51:09.200
<v Speaker 2>want to stop at the Starbucks, but you're just passing

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<v Speaker 2>by it, and like you're on the train already versus

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<v Speaker 2>like getting off, and it takes maybe longer, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>more grueling, especially if you're at JFK or Atlanta Airport,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if I can take the analogy further, And yeah,

0:51:21.800 --> 0:51:25.040
<v Speaker 2>but that walking conveyer belt, it's nice, you know where

0:51:25.040 --> 0:51:27.120
<v Speaker 2>you're going, you know where the endpoint is, but it

0:51:27.239 --> 0:51:31.320
<v Speaker 2>can be seductive. And yeah, I think honestly, your thirties

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<v Speaker 2>is the era of getting off that conveyor belt for

0:51:34.200 --> 0:51:37.799
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people and choosing the stops that you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna make. Okay, so you've taken us to the pandemic

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<v Speaker 2>and now bringing it back to the book. So you're

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<v Speaker 2>starting to disrupt yourself, and you're starting to disrupt sort

0:51:46.480 --> 0:51:49.160
<v Speaker 2>of the vision that you had for yourself in your career.

0:51:50.320 --> 0:51:52.040
<v Speaker 2>And then what's the next step after that? Once we

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<v Speaker 2>sort of like get to a place where we're not

0:51:53.880 --> 0:51:57.399
<v Speaker 2>afraid to shake things up personally, what's the next step

0:51:57.440 --> 0:51:57.880
<v Speaker 2>for folks?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and that's why I figured, if we start with

0:52:00.400 --> 0:52:02.759
<v Speaker 4>ourselves and you built this courage and confidence to be

0:52:02.920 --> 0:52:05.600
<v Speaker 4>who you want to be, live your own vision, that

0:52:05.800 --> 0:52:09.240
<v Speaker 4>kind of confidence exudes everywhere, then you're not as scared

0:52:09.360 --> 0:52:13.840
<v Speaker 4>to do the interventions that are every day. So you know, obviously,

0:52:14.000 --> 0:52:16.879
<v Speaker 4>in my career, I've met so many people who quit

0:52:16.920 --> 0:52:18.919
<v Speaker 4>their jobs and say they're rent for office or start

0:52:18.920 --> 0:52:21.040
<v Speaker 4>an organization. And I don't think change has to be

0:52:21.120 --> 0:52:23.320
<v Speaker 4>all of that. And plus I don't think everybody should

0:52:23.360 --> 0:52:25.399
<v Speaker 4>do that. There are some people who have and it's great,

0:52:25.480 --> 0:52:27.759
<v Speaker 4>like teachers who have become elected and things like that.

0:52:28.560 --> 0:52:33.600
<v Speaker 4>But quite frankly, Corey Bush is amazing, right, But then

0:52:33.640 --> 0:52:36.480
<v Speaker 4>there are some people who quite frankly, they should probably

0:52:36.520 --> 0:52:37.440
<v Speaker 4>stay CEOs with.

0:52:37.480 --> 0:52:41.319
<v Speaker 2>These big firms, don't you wish they would stay ninety five,

0:52:41.600 --> 0:52:45.120
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. Some people should just stay

0:52:45.120 --> 0:52:47.160
<v Speaker 2>in your glass castle, out of our.

0:52:47.080 --> 0:52:50.520
<v Speaker 5>Way, and so and so, if you're staying in your lane,

0:52:51.080 --> 0:52:53.319
<v Speaker 5>what can you do? Can you figure out a way

0:52:53.440 --> 0:52:54.400
<v Speaker 5>to spend your privilege?

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<v Speaker 4>Can you figure out a way to expand your capacity

0:52:57.480 --> 0:53:00.239
<v Speaker 4>for understanding humanity? And so then you're gonna look get

0:53:00.280 --> 0:53:02.279
<v Speaker 4>like the immigration fight differently. You're going to look at

0:53:02.280 --> 0:53:04.520
<v Speaker 4>the labor movement differently. You're going to look at these

0:53:04.640 --> 0:53:10.520
<v Speaker 4>things as not necessarily huge movements that you're never going

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<v Speaker 4>to be able to unpact, but you'll see yourself as

0:53:12.920 --> 0:53:15.840
<v Speaker 4>a small part of this larger movement, right, like a

0:53:15.920 --> 0:53:19.920
<v Speaker 4>small part that is necessary understanding that a thousand people

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<v Speaker 4>doing small acts of disruption is so much more impactful

0:53:23.480 --> 0:53:26.480
<v Speaker 4>than everybody sitting around waiting for that one person to

0:53:26.600 --> 0:53:29.480
<v Speaker 4>take that one mantle and do everything themselves, right, and

0:53:29.560 --> 0:53:32.360
<v Speaker 4>so it allows you to have the courage to in

0:53:32.480 --> 0:53:35.360
<v Speaker 4>your daily life figure out ways that you can disrupt

0:53:35.440 --> 0:53:38.960
<v Speaker 4>at work, with your family and with resources that quite frankly,

0:53:39.560 --> 0:53:43.760
<v Speaker 4>don't cost money. It might cost you some position or privilege,

0:53:43.840 --> 0:53:47.400
<v Speaker 4>or some even just discomfort, but it actually doesn't cost

0:53:47.520 --> 0:53:51.040
<v Speaker 4>you a lot to actually intervene and be those daily disruptors.

0:53:51.200 --> 0:53:53.040
<v Speaker 2>So you talk about in the third part of your book,

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<v Speaker 2>Disruption of Community. I really like the part where you

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<v Speaker 2>talk about spending your privilege. Can you talk a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit about that.

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<v Speaker 4>So I spent a lot of time at Plan Parent

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<v Speaker 4>had I worked at Plan Parent's office.

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<v Speaker 5>For six years.

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<v Speaker 2>How are your colleagues, your former colleagues, how are they?

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<v Speaker 5>They are going through it?

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<v Speaker 2>They've been going through it, but even now.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they have been.

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<v Speaker 4>But working at Plan Parent and the Reproductive Freedom movement,

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<v Speaker 4>I worked with a lot of white women right, and

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<v Speaker 4>there were a lot of conversations and I talk about

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<v Speaker 4>it in the book, a lot of conversations about how

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<v Speaker 4>white women can use their position and power and privilege

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<v Speaker 4>to expand the table and make sure that women of

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<v Speaker 4>colors voices were not only just listened to, but resourced

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<v Speaker 4>right and leadership positions that were that were supported. And

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<v Speaker 4>so I share that those stories, stories about Cecil Richards

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<v Speaker 4>and Senator Warren.

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<v Speaker 5>Because I think when people hear in peace, I know,

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<v Speaker 5>my goodness.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm actually going to a memorial for her tomorrow talk

0:54:47.160 --> 0:54:50.399
<v Speaker 4>about when she almost got us arrested one time.

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<v Speaker 5>At a rally at Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, it's very on brand for her, what about what

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<v Speaker 2>about as?

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<v Speaker 4>And God rest her soul? And I'm so grateful to

0:55:02.960 --> 0:55:05.359
<v Speaker 4>have worked with her so closely. And so I think

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<v Speaker 4>when people here spend your privilege, you think about white women, right,

0:55:08.480 --> 0:55:12.960
<v Speaker 4>using their privilege being white women, to intervene or to

0:55:13.640 --> 0:55:15.600
<v Speaker 4>be part of these movements. But I had to step

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<v Speaker 4>back and say, well, all of us, depending on the setting,

0:55:18.480 --> 0:55:21.160
<v Speaker 4>we have a certain privilege, right, whether it's socio economic,

0:55:21.320 --> 0:55:24.560
<v Speaker 4>whether it is education, whether it is I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>whatever religion you are. I'm a Christian and that is

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<v Speaker 4>the dominant religion in the United States. That is a

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<v Speaker 4>privilege in certain settings, right, I should speak up for

0:55:32.640 --> 0:55:37.040
<v Speaker 4>other faiths. Whether you are heterosexual, and there's conversations around

0:55:37.200 --> 0:55:38.640
<v Speaker 4>what's happening to queer and trans.

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<v Speaker 5>People, that is a privilege.

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<v Speaker 4>And I break it down that all of us, at

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<v Speaker 4>some point in our lives do have some privilege that

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<v Speaker 4>we could spend to build a better community and show

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<v Speaker 4>up for folks who don't have the privilege of position

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<v Speaker 4>that we do.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's a really important point. When you say minority

0:55:54.040 --> 0:55:56.960
<v Speaker 2>so often, it kind of loses its meaning but literally,

0:55:57.440 --> 0:56:01.920
<v Speaker 2>we are like this big compared to the majority. We

0:56:02.040 --> 0:56:05.080
<v Speaker 2>can't do it alone. It's just it's nonsense. You can't.

0:56:05.080 --> 0:56:08.759
<v Speaker 2>The ninety two is of what of thirteen percent? You

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<v Speaker 2>know of seven percent if you look at women. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just very I just appreciate that, yeah, very much so.

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<v Speaker 4>And to that point too, Mandy, speaking of the ninety

0:56:18.160 --> 0:56:21.480
<v Speaker 4>two percent of the seven percent, right can't do everything.

0:56:22.320 --> 0:56:25.320
<v Speaker 4>It's also why we have to be okay with taking

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<v Speaker 4>care of ourselves. There's a lot of talk about how

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<v Speaker 4>self care what, as Audrey Lord said, is an act

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<v Speaker 4>of political warfare, right, and words that really the words

0:56:34.680 --> 0:56:36.759
<v Speaker 4>that got me out of bed two days after Vice

0:56:36.800 --> 0:56:40.919
<v Speaker 4>President Harris lost the election were Alice Walker's words that said,

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<v Speaker 4>you have to keep a healthy soul to face constant oppression,

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<v Speaker 4>and that I think sums up the grace and permission

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<v Speaker 4>that we are giving ourselves as black women to say

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<v Speaker 4>it's actually okay for me to take care of myself

0:56:56.400 --> 0:56:59.520
<v Speaker 4>because this is a constant state of oppression that I'm in,

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<v Speaker 4>and we are the pillars of our community. So if

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<v Speaker 4>we are not okay, and I talk about this a

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<v Speaker 4>lot in the book, if we're not okay, the work

0:57:07.320 --> 0:57:10.440
<v Speaker 4>that we're doing in our communities will not be the

0:57:10.480 --> 0:57:13.399
<v Speaker 4>work that it needs to be right, and so it's

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<v Speaker 4>so imperative that we take care of ourselves also knowing

0:57:16.480 --> 0:57:19.040
<v Speaker 4>that we can't save everyone. And so at the end

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<v Speaker 4>of the day, I think we got to save ourselves

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<v Speaker 4>first before we even try to figure out a solution

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<v Speaker 4>that saves other people.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm in a place right.

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<v Speaker 4>Now getting in deep, deep, deep community with people. And

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<v Speaker 4>as long as we can ride together and work together,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think those small communities begin to create bigger communities.

0:57:38.960 --> 0:57:40.040
<v Speaker 5>That's how we get through this.

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<v Speaker 4>But we have to be okay first, and part of

0:57:42.440 --> 0:57:44.800
<v Speaker 4>taking care of ourselves also allows for us to treat

0:57:44.800 --> 0:57:45.400
<v Speaker 4>each other better.

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<v Speaker 2>I will bring it back to your faith that I'm

0:57:47.320 --> 0:57:50.760
<v Speaker 2>thinking about how you pray for and love as a

0:57:50.840 --> 0:57:53.480
<v Speaker 2>Christian for people that you don't agree with, that do

0:57:53.640 --> 0:57:55.640
<v Speaker 2>things that you don't agree with. Then it's like we

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<v Speaker 2>got to you know, do you so? Do you love

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<v Speaker 2>the eight percent? Are you just like cool with that?

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<v Speaker 5>You asked me, like very directly, and now you are

0:58:03.920 --> 0:58:06.040
<v Speaker 5>challenging me. I mean I did name the books and

0:58:06.240 --> 0:58:09.520
<v Speaker 5>my favorite story of Jesus in the Bible flipping over tables.

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<v Speaker 2>How is that a story in the Bible. I'm a heathen,

0:58:12.280 --> 0:58:13.680
<v Speaker 2>so you got to you gotta educate me.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, it's it is a story in the Bible.

0:58:16.680 --> 0:58:18.160
<v Speaker 4>It's in the Bible three times a month.

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<v Speaker 2>Not the lady from Real Housewives.

0:58:19.600 --> 0:58:20.160
<v Speaker 1>No, that's not it.

0:58:20.520 --> 0:58:22.440
<v Speaker 5>It's not. But I love Real Housewives. And so that's

0:58:22.480 --> 0:58:23.959
<v Speaker 5>also why this works, right.

0:58:24.040 --> 0:58:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Either one, either one, you're kind of like getting it.

0:58:26.440 --> 0:58:27.520
<v Speaker 5>Either way, you get it.

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<v Speaker 2>You see the Jesus, sir Teresa, whatever her datement is. Yeah,

0:58:31.040 --> 0:58:32.440
<v Speaker 2>keep going, that's exactly it.

0:58:32.760 --> 0:58:35.480
<v Speaker 4>That story kept coming to me, and I kept asking

0:58:35.560 --> 0:58:39.200
<v Speaker 4>myself what got Jesus so crunk that he was flipping

0:58:39.320 --> 0:58:43.960
<v Speaker 4>over tables? Like, that's the Jesus that I'm so interested in,

0:58:44.120 --> 0:58:47.040
<v Speaker 4>that's the red text Jesus that actually like aligns with

0:58:47.120 --> 0:58:50.920
<v Speaker 4>my political ideology. And then I like scaled back and

0:58:51.000 --> 0:58:53.640
<v Speaker 4>I said, oh, what are the proverbial tables that we

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<v Speaker 4>have to.

0:58:53.920 --> 0:58:56.520
<v Speaker 5>Flip over in our communities, in our in our own lives.

0:58:56.760 --> 0:58:58.840
<v Speaker 5>And my faith is such a big part of me.

0:58:58.880 --> 0:59:03.480
<v Speaker 4>My dad's a pastor, and I honestly know, and I

0:59:03.520 --> 0:59:05.520
<v Speaker 4>talk about a lot in the book, it is because

0:59:05.520 --> 0:59:07.000
<v Speaker 4>of my faith that I'm able to do all the

0:59:07.120 --> 0:59:11.640
<v Speaker 4>things that I do, and I realize me talking about

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<v Speaker 4>my faith so boldly is disruptive in the political space

0:59:15.240 --> 0:59:18.560
<v Speaker 4>because conservatives and rights well sit the other side, doesn't

0:59:19.680 --> 0:59:22.760
<v Speaker 4>they do Jesus feel like they make us feel like

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<v Speaker 4>Jesus is this like really judgmental person when the reality

0:59:26.360 --> 0:59:28.400
<v Speaker 4>is he would probably be deported if he.

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<v Speaker 2>Was living on earth right now, sister friend wouldn't make

0:59:32.800 --> 0:59:35.800
<v Speaker 2>it through airport security. Let's just say listen.

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<v Speaker 4>And so it was really important for me to talk

0:59:37.520 --> 0:59:40.880
<v Speaker 4>about my faith in a way that felt natural to me,

0:59:41.040 --> 0:59:44.160
<v Speaker 4>because just by doing that, it disrupts this notion of

0:59:44.920 --> 0:59:47.320
<v Speaker 4>what a person of faith who has these strong.

0:59:47.160 --> 0:59:49.720
<v Speaker 5>Beliefs on social justice and politics could look like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean sometimes I am jealous of people who

0:59:53.440 --> 0:59:57.040
<v Speaker 2>have such deep faith because it is a it's a

0:59:57.160 --> 0:59:59.560
<v Speaker 2>talisman or I don't know if that's sacrilegious to say,

0:59:59.600 --> 1:00:01.880
<v Speaker 2>but it is something that burns within you and gives

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<v Speaker 2>you that hope and you kind of are able to

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<v Speaker 2>give it away to a higher power. I'm not saying that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think religion period, just all the various kinds

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<v Speaker 2>of religions my family, I grew up my aunt and

1:00:14.640 --> 1:00:18.320
<v Speaker 2>great uncle or Baptist preachers in Georgia, and my mom's

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<v Speaker 2>side is Irish Catholic.

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<v Speaker 4>So one of the things, Mandy, that I've been thinking

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<v Speaker 4>about that I want to study or just get deeply

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<v Speaker 4>rooted in is the stories and the lessons of how

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<v Speaker 4>our ancestors got through the civil rights movement reconstruction during

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<v Speaker 4>the period of enslavement, because I feel as though there

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<v Speaker 4>were so many, so much of the solutions, so many

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<v Speaker 4>of the solutions that we're looking for, we could actually

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<v Speaker 4>find from our ancestors. And one of the things that

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<v Speaker 4>I realized is in order to get through all of

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<v Speaker 4>that required a very deep faith, whether in God or

1:00:54.080 --> 1:00:56.880
<v Speaker 4>through Christianity or something else, that there was a very

1:00:57.040 --> 1:01:00.880
<v Speaker 4>deep spiritual practice and a very deep faith that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>people are constantly saying, well, we're not our ancestors, we

1:01:03.960 --> 1:01:05.920
<v Speaker 4>may not be built like our ancestors, And I said, well,

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<v Speaker 4>it first starts with having a spiritual fortitude. And that

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<v Speaker 4>is the reminder for me to continue to like deepen

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<v Speaker 4>my faith. And as you're saying, you know, whether or

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<v Speaker 4>not you are a religious person or what you believe in,

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<v Speaker 4>just having that spiritual connection is so incredibly powerful, and

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<v Speaker 4>it keeps you anchored when everything looks like chaos around

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<v Speaker 4>you and quite frankly, you don't see.

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<v Speaker 5>A way forward.

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<v Speaker 2>I simply just think about the word love, like just

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<v Speaker 2>believe in love. For me, God is love. And my

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<v Speaker 2>friendships have become I mean, I was really, to your point,

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<v Speaker 2>tending to my friendships in the past few years and

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<v Speaker 2>really nurturing them. And it's that to me is like

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<v Speaker 2>something that I can really root some faith in. Is

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<v Speaker 2>that this power of community? And I just I love

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's a single person who's joined me

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<v Speaker 2>on the show since the New Year and hasn't mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>community and connection in some way. And I just think

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<v Speaker 2>if there's one great thing to come out of all

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<v Speaker 2>this chaos that we are in the middle of, it's

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm finding other people who are on the same

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<v Speaker 2>wavelength and I'm opening my arms. And I thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for opening your arms to me and to be a

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<v Speaker 2>fam and for sharing this wonderful book with us. Alencia,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to see you in New York. I got

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<v Speaker 2>I reserved my spot for your talk. Where is it

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a I don't know. I didn't even check.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just like sign me up, Oh my go,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you so excited.

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<v Speaker 4>It will be at the Barnes and Noble Upper West

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<v Speaker 4>Side with Abby Phillip.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's the one that's going to be great. Congratulations.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad you're doing like a real proper and

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna be in DC. I got I have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of I have a community called the Mandy money Makers,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know I have a lot of d MB makers.

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<v Speaker 2>So I posted it in our slack and like three

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<v Speaker 2>or four of them already said that they bought tickets

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<v Speaker 2>to see you and enjoy in in DC.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's going to be great. And those tickets are

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<v Speaker 5>like they're almost sold out.

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<v Speaker 2>So no, of course it was really it was really

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<v Speaker 2>cool of her to go through all that drama and

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<v Speaker 2>get you know, her name even more in the press

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<v Speaker 2>to like drive up your sales.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I was nice.

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<v Speaker 4>I text her the morning all the news drop, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we were talking. But then a few days later I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, here's some good news for you. We've got

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<v Speaker 4>over three hundred RSVPs.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's incredible.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to see her in love on her and

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<v Speaker 4>she's she's a disruptor her. Yeah, Cabby and I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>on tour with Lovey and Chicago and Jessica Nabango and Detroit,

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<v Speaker 4>all disruptors, amazing dope women.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, ba Fan for listening. Don't forget to go

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<v Speaker 2>pick up Alynsia's book here, it is right here. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna imagine I'm putting it on the screen. And also,

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<v Speaker 2>your website is flipthtables book dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>Perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>Congratulations. Thank you for sharing your light with us. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you enjoyed my conversation with a Lindsaya Johnson.

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