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Speaker 1: As a guide an hunter, I've spent thousands of days

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Speaker 1: in the field. This show is about translating my hard

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Speaker 1: won experiences into tips and tactics they'll get you closer

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Speaker 1: to your ultimate goal success in the field. I'm Remy Warren.

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Speaker 1: This is cutting the distance. It's mid August, the sun

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Speaker 1: is out, and there are already quite a few seasons underway,

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Speaker 1: antelope being one, but mule deer seasons are definitely starting

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Speaker 1: to kick off as well a lot of places across

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Speaker 1: the West. And just like us, as things start to

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Speaker 1: heat up, animals need a cool drink of water. So

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Speaker 1: this week I'm going to cover strategies for hunting water,

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Speaker 1: including how to pick a water to hunt, how to

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Speaker 1: set up for your best chance at a shot, and

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Speaker 1: how drought might actually help you out. But first I

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Speaker 1: want to share the story of that time I shot

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Speaker 1: an antelope in my underwear, the first archery analyopt tag

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Speaker 1: that I ever had in the state in Nevada. It

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Speaker 1: was on a year that I actually had drawn nearly

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Speaker 1: everything that I put in for, which is crazy. That's

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Speaker 1: the first time it happened and the only time that's

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Speaker 1: ever happened. There was a few tags I didn't draw,

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Speaker 1: but man, I had a lot of good tags that

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Speaker 1: you're a couple of different elk tags. I drew some

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Speaker 1: good meal der tags. And it was all during archery season,

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Speaker 1: kind of before my guiding scenes. There was like from

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Speaker 1: August one through beginning mid September, so I didn't have

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Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna find a

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Speaker 1: actually had My buddy Mike had had that tag the

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Speaker 1: year before, and I found a good water and got

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Speaker 1: a good buck. So I was like, sweet, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go check those areas out. So I went up really

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Speaker 1: scouting in the summertime. I didn't have trail cameras at

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Speaker 1: the time, but I did check out a few different waters.

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Speaker 1: I kind of had a plan. I was like, all right,

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Speaker 1: this is my plan. So I ended up shooting a deer.

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Speaker 1: I drew it actually a limited entry California meal deer

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Speaker 1: like just checking the waters. I'm like, okay, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: because that's where I was gonna hunt anyway. So I

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Speaker 1: get there and sure enough water like sweet, but it

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Speaker 1: So the buck comes in and some of the does

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Speaker 1: And I was like, I was just sitting there blind.

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Speaker 1: Had to have been a hundred and ten or plus degrees.

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Speaker 1: Sitting there hunting in what I would consider my modern

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Speaker 1: So I think it comes down to picking a water source,

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Speaker 1: But you have to first kind of analyze what those

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Speaker 1: And the nice thing about antelope is they don't necessarily

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Speaker 1: They like more sheltered brushy areas, So if there was

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Speaker 1: And actually, meal deer tend I find, tend to use

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Speaker 1: the same place every day. Now if there's no other options,

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Speaker 1: combination of all of those. I've seen just out and

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Speaker 1: and then I've seen them, you know, hitting obviously springs, wallows, whatever.

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Speaker 1: So those are just a couple of little things I

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Speaker 1: think about, But when it comes down to picking a

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Speaker 1: water really activity is key and then understanding that activity.

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Speaker 1: So now there's the ability to leave a trail cam

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Speaker 1: on the water and you can decipher, oh, well, what's here,

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Speaker 1: what's coming in? You know, you can go put a

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Speaker 1: done this before trail cameras and during trail cameras doesn't

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Speaker 1: So what I do is when I go out and

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Speaker 1: I'm looking for water sources, I first try to spot animals.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking for animals, not water. So I go out,

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Speaker 1: Now I go, where's the water, where's this animal watering?

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Speaker 1: try to make lemonade out of lemons. I appreciate everybody

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Speaker 1: You've you've got questions or whatever, feel free to reach

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Speaker 1: out to me on social media at Remy Warren, Instagram, YouTube, whatever. Also,

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